Evil Talks: Chilling Confessions (2018–…): Season 1, Episode 1 - The Killer Collective - full transcript

Detectives in Grand Rapids, Michigan pursue six suspects in a violent home invasion and murder caught on camera.

Narrator:
A LOVE TRIANGLE TURNS DEADLY.

Woodford: ONE GIRL SEEING
TWO DIFFERENT GUYS,

THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CONCERN THAT
SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET ANGRY,

AND SOMEONE IS
GOING TO GET HURT.

Yineman: IT WAS VERY VOLATILE.

SHE PAINTED A PICTURE
FOR MY BROTHER, QUITE HONESTLY,

THAT SHE WAS FEARING
FOR HER LIFE.

Narrator:
TWO MURDERS IN TWO STATES.

DETECTIVES MUST FIND OUT IF ONE
WOMAN IS A VICTIM OR A KILLER.

THERE'S COMFORT IN DARKNESS
FOR PEOPLE WHO DO EVIL THINGS,

A LOT OF COMFORT,
SO YOU TURN THAT LIGHT ON.



THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

WASN'T THE ONLY ONE.

**

Narrator: IN THE
INTERROGATION ROOM,

POLICE MUST CONFRONT EVIL.

WHEN DID YOU DECIDE

THAT YOU WERE GONNA
KILL THIS PERSON?

WHY DID YOU CHOOSE
MURDER?

DO YOU THINK OF YOURSELF
AS A SERIAL KILLER?

SIFTING THROUGH UNSPEAKABLE
CRIMES AND DARK THE SECRETS.

I HAD THE KNIFE
AND I WENT DOWN...

I AM A KILLER.

I'VE KILLED
THREE OTHER PEOPLE.

THE TRUTH CAN ONLY
WILL BE REVEALED...



WHEN EVIL TALKS.

**

**

NOVEMBER 1st, 2011, POLICE
RESPOND TO A SUSPICIOUS SMELL

REPORTED AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX
IN SAUK RAPIDS, MINNESOTA.

IS ANYBODY HOME?

THE MANAGER OF THE APARTMENT
COMPLEX THOUGHT THIS ODOR

WAS COMING FROM
A CERTAIN APARTMENT.

SAUK RAPIDS POLICE DEPARTMENT
WENT INTO THE APARTMENT,

AND THEY HAD FOUND
THE PERSON RESIDING

AT THAT APARTMENT
ON THE COUCH.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PILLOWS
THAT WERE OVER THE HEAD.

THOSE WERE REMOVED.

**

THERE APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN
A GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD.

Narrator:
POLICE CONFIRM THAT THE
APARTMENT BELONGS TO THE VICTIM,

34-YEAR-OLD JAMES KELLY O'MARA.

Bakke: THE BODY WAS IN A STATE
OF DECOMPOSITION.

THIS DECOMP WAS RIGHT AROUND
THE 3, 4 DAY STAGE,

WHICH IS WHEN AN ODOR WOULD
REALLY START TO BE NOTICED.

Narrator: DETECTIVES QUICKLY
RULE OUT SUICIDE.

SINGLE WOUND, THE FIREARM WASN'T
LOCATED IN THE APARTMENT.

VERY RARELY ARE YOU
AT A SUICIDE

WHERE THERE ISN'T A GUN
ASSOCIATED WITH THE BODY.

Narrator: THEY BELIEVE THEY
ARE DEALING WITH A HOMICIDE

AND BEGIN TO COLLECT EVIDENCE.

Bakke: POINTS OF ENTRY, HOW DID
THIS PERSON GET IN OR OUT?

IS IT SOMEONE WHO HAD A KEY?
DID THEY KEY THEMSELVES IN?

DID THEY POTENTIALLY
GO THROUGH A WINDOW?

THEY FOUND BREAKFAST FOOD THERE,

A BREAKFAST BURRITO
OF SOME SORT.

THERE WAS NOTHING
THAT'S BEEN EATEN.

OBVIOUSLY, SOMETHING
INTERRUPTED HIM

THAT DIDN'T ALLOW HIM
TO EAT THAT BREAKFAST.

EVERYTHING IS
POTENTIAL EVIDENCE.

Narrator:
AS A FORENSICS TEAM SEARCHES
THE APARTMENT FOR CLUES,

DETECTIVES BREAK THE NEWS
TO THE O'MARA FAMILY,

THAT THE SON AND BROTHER
THAT THEY CALLED KELLY IS DEAD.

OH, MOM!

**

Bates: WELL, IT WAS REALLY HARD
TO SEE MY MOM GO THROUGH THAT.

HER ONLY SON IS GONE,
IS THE LOOK ON HER FACE.

JUST...

YOU'LL NEVER FORGET IT.

Yineman: WHEN I GOT THE CALL,
I JUST HEARD THAT HE WAS SHOT,

AND THEN BY THE TIME I GOT HOME,
THEY HAD SAID, "NO. HE IS DEAD."

HE JUST HAD THIS
INFECTIOUS SMILE,

AND THERE'S THOSE
BIG, BLUE EYES.

UM...

[ SNIFFLES ]

I'M SORRY.

I HAVE THIS PICTURE
UP IN MY OFFICE.

I LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY.

**

THAT'S THE FACE THAT YOU'D
SEE ALL THE TIME --

SMILING IRISHMAN.

Narrator:
POLICE ASK KELLY'S FAMILY
IF THEY CAN THINK OF ANYONE

WITH A MOTIVE TO HARM HIM.

WOULD YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO
WOULD WANT TO DO THIS TO KELLY?

THEY ARE SURPRISED
BY THE RESPONSE.

[ SOBS ]

MICHAEL PIES KILLED HIM
AFTER ALL THESE MONTHS

OF SAYING HE'S GOING TO DO IT.

OH, MY GOD.
HE FINALLY DID IT.

Narrator:
KELLY'S FAMILY IMMEDIATELY
BLAMES A MAN NAMED MICHAEL PIES,

THE BOYFRIEND OF KELLY'S
EX-WIFE, ANGELINA.

I INSTANTLY WENT,
"WHERE'S ANGELINA?

IS SHE OKAY?"

I THOUGHT, "IF HE'S GOING
TO KILL MY BROTHER,

IS HE GOING TO KILL HER, TOO?"

Narrator: DETECTIVES LEARNED
THAT MICHAEL PIES WAS UNHAPPY

THAT ANGELINA WAS STILL
CLOSE TO HER EX-HUSBAND.

Yineman:
I WAS WORRIED FOR ANGELINA,

SO WE WERE ALL TRYING
TO LOCATE HER.

I WAS THINKING THAT HE HAD
HER LOCKED UP AND TIED UP.

Bates: HE WAS ALWAYS THREATENING
TO KILL KELLY.

"I HAVE YOUR HOUSE NOW.
I HAVE YOUR WIFE.

IF YOU COME NEAR ANGELINA,
I'M GOING TO KILL YOU."

I REMEMBER ANGELINA'S SISTER
TELLING ME

THAT MICHAEL PIES
BEAT HER UP,

STRANGLED HER, KNOCKED
HER DOWN, PUNCHED HER.

SHE WAS AFRAID OF HIM.

Narrator: HAD MICHAEL FINALLY
DELIVERED ON HIS THREATS?

WAS KELLY'S DEATH THE RESULT
OF A LOVE TRIANGLE GONE WRONG?

WAS ANGELINA NOW IN HARM'S WAY?

POLICE FAIL TO MAKE CONTACT
WITH MICHAEL PIES

OR ANGELINA O'MARA AT
THEIR KNOWN RESIDENCE.

THEY PUT OUT A BULLETIN
TO LOCATE BOTH,

BUT AS NIGHT FALLS, THERE'S
NO WORD FROM EITHER OF THEM.

THE NEXT MORNING, 200 MILES AWAY
ACROSS STATE LINES,

LIEUTENANT GREG BEBEAU IS
WORKING THE BURGLARY DETAIL

IN ASHLAND, WISCONSIN.

MY PARTNER AND I,

WE GET A CALL FROM
THE PATROL OFFICERS

THAT WE NEED TO COME DOWN
TO THE ANDERSON MOTEL,

ROOM NUMBER 12.

BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE,

THE PATROL OFFICERS
ALREADY HAD THE ROOM OPEN,

AND THEN WE COULD SEE
ON THE FLOOR...

FEET BLOCKING THE DOORWAY --

A DECEASED MALE.

**

Narrator: INITIALLY, POLICE
CAN ONLY BE CERTAIN

THAT THEIR UNKNOWN VICTIM

HAS A SINGLE GUNSHOT
WOUND TO THE HEAD.

IT COULD BE EXPLAINED
AS EXECUTION-STYLE.

THE FIRST QUESTION
THAT COMES TO MIND IS,

"WHY? WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?
WHAT HAPPENED?

WHAT COULD'VE LED
SOMEBODY TO DO THIS?"

NOT MUCH EVIDENCE.

NO.

Narrator: THE SCENE OF THE CRIME
OFFERS FEW CLUES.

Bebeau: THERE WASN'T A HUGE
CRIME SCENE HERE.

THIS IS A 12-BY-12 HOTEL ROOM.

YOU OPEN THE DOOR,
AND THERE'S THE DOUBLE BED.

THERE'S THE BATHROOM,
AND THAT'S IT.

THERE'S NO WEAPON.

THERE'S NO CASING.

THERE'S NO VEHICLE,
AND THERE'S NO SUSPECT,

SO YOU START LOOKING
FOR THE SMALL DETAILS.

Narrator: NO WEAPON AND NO
SHELL CASINGS ARE FOUND,

BUT DETECTIVES MAKE
ONE IMPORTANT DISCOVERY.

Bebeau: WE FOUND A RECEIPT
FROM A LOCAL RESTAURANT

THAT HAD DELIVERED FOOD
THERE 2 DAYS PRIOR.

THE RECEIPT ACTUALLY
HELPED US CONTACT

THE DELIVERY PERSON
WHO HAD BEEN THERE,

SO WE KNEW HE WAS ALIVE
2 DAYS EARLIER.

Narrator: THE HOTEL REGISTRY
AND IDENTIFICATION FOUND

IN ROOM 12 CONFIRM
THE VICTIM'S IDENTITY.

HE'S 36-YEAR-OLD MICHAEL PIES.

**

DETECTIVE BEBEAU RUNS PIES' NAME

THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
NATIONAL DATABASE

AND LEARNS THAT HIS VICTIM
IS A PERSON OF INTEREST

FOR A MURDER IN MINNESOTA.

**

INVESTIGATORS FROM WISCONSIN
AND MINNESOTA

BEGIN TALKING TO FIND OUT
HOW THE DEATHS ARE CONNECTED.

LIEUTENANT BEBEAU HAD DETAILS
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN ASHLAND.

I OBVIOUSLY HAD DETAILS OF WHAT
HAD HAPPENED IN MINNESOTA,

IN SAUK RAPIDS.

WE STARTED COMPARING NOTES.

KELLY WAS KILLED IN MINNESOTA,
SHOT IN THE HEAD,

AND NOW WE HAVE
MICHAEL PIES FOUND DEAD

WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND
TO HIS HEAD,

AND THE COMMON DENOMINATOR
BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM

IS ANGELINA O'MARA.

Narrator:
DETECTIVES INITIALLY THOUGHT
ANGELINA COULD BE A VICTIM.

NOW THEY WONDER,
"COULD SHE BE THE KILLER?"

Bebeau:
JAMES KELLY, MICHAEL PIES,

THEY'RE BOTH DEAD
200 MILES APART,

AND SHE'S NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.

WE NEED TO FIND ANGELINA.

**

**

Narrator:
KELLY O'MARA AND MICHAEL PIES
HAVE BEEN SHOT DEAD,

THEIR BODIES FOUND
200 MILES APART

IN MINNESOTA AND WISCONSIN.

THE WOMAN WHO CONNECTS THEM,
ANGELINA O'MARA, IS MISSING.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WAS,
LOCATE ANGELINA.

WHO COULD'VE BEEN NEXT?

IT WAS VERY CONCERNING.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE SHE WAS.

WE HAD NO MURDER WEAPON.

ALL WE KNOW IS, WE HAVE
TWO VICTIMS THAT BOTH KNEW HER.

Yineman: I WAS WORRIED.
I REMEMBER THINKING,

"NOW HER LIFE IS IN DANGER
AS WELL."

Narrator: COULD ANGELINA KNOW
SOMETHING ABOUT THESE DEATHS,

OR IS SHE ANOTHER VICTIM
YET TO BE FOUND?

POLICE DIG INTO HER PAST,

LOOKING FOR CLUES
TO WHERE SHE MIGHT BE.

JAMES KELLY O'MARA
MET ANGELINA MAY IN 1998.

THE TWO MARRY
SEVERAL YEARS LATER.

ANGELINA WAS VERY PRETTY,

AND SHE HAD THIS
BEAUTIFUL BRUNETTE HAIR.

Bates: HER PERSONALITY
WAS VERY BUBBLY.

SHE WAS NICE AND FRIENDLY, AND
HE THOUGHT OF HER AS HIS ANGEL.

HE LOVED HER UNCONDITIONALLY.

Narrator: BUT AFTER BEING
TOGETHER FOR OVER A DECADE,

ANGELINA STRAYS.

Yineman:
HE CAME HOME, AND SHE HAD SAID,

"I'M NOT IN LOVE
WITH YOU ANYMORE.

I FOUND SOMEBODY ELSE,
AND I'M PREGNANT."

Narrator:
KELLY IS HURT AND JEALOUS,

BUT INSISTS THAT HE WILL
WIN ANGELINA BACK.

**

MY WOMAN, MY HOUSE!
OKAY! I GET IT.

ANGELINA'S NEW MAN, MICHAEL
PIES, TELLS KELLY TO GET LOST.

I'LL KILL YOUR ASS.

Yineman: IT WAS VERY VOLATILE.

ALL THE THINGS WE HEARD,

THAT MICHAEL WOULD BE
THREATENING KELLY,

THAT HE HAD TO STAY AWAY.

SHE PAINTED A PICTURE
FOR MY BROTHER,

QUITE HONESTLY, THAT SHE
WAS FEARING FOR HER LIFE.

GET BACK IN
THE DAMN HOUSE!

AND HE JUST WANTED TO BE
THAT HERO AND STEP IN

AND SAVE THE DAY.

Narrator:
NOW, BOTH RIVALS ARE DEAD.

DETECTIVES URGENTLY NEED
TO LOCATE ANGELINA O'MARA.

**

INVESTIGATORS TRACE
ANGELINA'S PHONE

AND FIND IT PINGING OFF
A CELL TOWER

450 MILES AWAY IN
SIOUX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA.

SIOUX FALLS OFFICERS HAD WENT,
AND THEY HAD A PICTURE,

AND "THIS IS KIND OF
WHO WE'RE LOOKING FOR."

I SAID, "OH, WE JUST SAW
SOMEONE LOOKING LIKE THAT

WALKING AWAY FROM
THE GAS STATION."

**

Narrator: SEVERAL HOURS LATER,
A MILE FROM THE TRUCK STOP,

AN OFFICER SPOTS A WOMAN
WALKING BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

CAN I SEE YOUR ID?

THERE WAS AN ID FOUND FOR HER
THAT ACTUALLY SHOWED

THAT SHE WAS ANGELINA O'MARA.

SHE HAD ASKED IF SHE COULD MAKE
A CALL TO JAMES KELLY O'MARA.

OFFICER SAID THAT THAT WOULD
NOT BE POSSIBLE AT THE TIME.

I'M GONNA NEED YOU
TO COME WITH ME.

Narrator:
WHAT IS ANGELINA O'MARA
DOING IN SOUTH DAKOTA?

SHE'S THE ONLY KNOWN TIE
TO BOTH KELLY AND MICHAEL.

POLICE ARREST HER ON PROBABLE
CAUSE OF INVOLVEMENT

IN TWO HOMICIDES.

NOW THEY'LL GIVE ANGELINA
A CHANCE TO TELL HER STORY.

DETECTIVE WOODFORD AND A SECOND
SAUK RAPIDS, MINNESOTA, OFFICER

HANDLE THE FIRST ROUND
OF QUESTIONING

AS INVESTIGATORS FROM
SOUTH DAKOTA AND WISCONSIN

MONITOR THE CONVERSATION
FROM ANOTHER ROOM.

ANGELINA SITS IN A CORNER
AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE

FROM HER INTERROGATORS.

EVERYTHING IS FLUID
AT THIS POINT.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE INVOLVED?

IS SHE THE MAIN SUSPECT?

YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT.

Narrator:
ANGELINA CLAIMS TO BE UNAWARE
THAT EITHER HER EX-HUSBAND,

JAMES KELLY O'MARA,

OR HER BOYFRIEND,
MICHAEL PIES, IS DEAD.

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY
NO REACTION FROM HER.

THERE WAS NOTHING.

THERE WAS DEAD SILENCE THERE.

THIS IS A MAN THAT SHE
SUPPOSEDLY LOVED OR LOVES.

CRUSHING, DEVASTATING NEWS
THAT THERE'S BEEN

A DEATH OF A LOVED ONE,

THERE IS NO REACTION.

"YEAH. I SAW HIM."

INCREDIBLY TELLING VIDEO.

Narrator: ANGELINA ACKNOWLEDGES
SHE HAD BEEN

WITH MICHAEL PIES
IN WISCONSIN,

BUT INSISTS THAT THEY
RECENTLY SEPARATED,

AND THE BREAKUP
WAS AMICABLE.

Narrator: ANGELINA SEEMS
TO SENSE HER ANSWERS

AREN'T CALMING
DETECTIVES' SUSPICIONS.

ANGELINA SAYS SHE
HAS TERMINAL CANCER

AND HAS NO REASON
TO KILL EITHER MAN.

Woodford: IS THIS TRUE OR NOT?

WAS SHE SICK AND REALLY DYING,

OR WAS THAT SOMETHING
SHE WAS JUST SAYING?

SOMETIMES THAT STUFF
IS TOLD TO US TO SAY,

"SEE? I DON'T HAVE A MOTIVE."

Bakke:
SHE SAYS THAT SHE LOVES HIM.

THAT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE
THAT BIG A DIFFERENCE.

A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S THE
LOVED ONES THAT GET HURT.

Narrator:
AN HOUR INTO QUESTIONING,

ANGELINA SAYS IT'S POSSIBLE
HER EX-HUSBAND

AND HER BOYFRIEND
CAUSED EACH OTHER'S DEATHS.

Woodford: AS INVESTIGATORS,
WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION

AND START LOOKING AT THAT MORE.

WAS SHE RIGHT?

THAT'S SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY,
WE HAD TO LOOK AT.

Narrator:
DETECTIVES HAVE TO DECIDE,

IS ANGELINA O'MARA
TELLING THE TRUTH,

OR ARE THEY ALREADY SITTING
FACE-TO-FACE WITH A KILLER?

Narrator: ANGELINA O'MARA
IS IN POLICE CUSTODY

6 DAYS AFTER THE MURDERS OF HER
EX-HUSBAND, JAMES KELLY O'MARA,

AND HER BOYFRIEND, MICHAEL PIES.

WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT, ONE GIRL
SEEING TWO DIFFERENT GUYS,

THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CONCERN THAT
SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET ANGRY,

AND SOMEONE IS
GOING TO GET HURT.

Narrator: NOW ANGELINA APPEARS
TO BE THE KEY PERSON

WITH STRONG EMOTIONAL
TIES TO TWO DEAD MEN,

AND DETECTIVE WOODFORD
WANTS TO KNOW THE LAST TIME

SHE SAW HER EX-HUSBAND ALIVE.

ANGELINA CONFIRMS SHE SAW KELLY
THE WEEKEND POLICE BELIEVE

HE WAS SHOT,

CLIMBING THROUGH HER
EX-HUSBAND'S WINDOW

TO BRING HIM BREAKFAST AFTER
HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR.

I WANTED ANGELINA TO TELL ME
MORE DETAIL

ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
IN JAMES' APARTMENT.

CLIMBING THROUGH THE WINDOW,
TO ME, WAS A RED FLAG.

YOU'RE JUST NOT OVER THERE
TO BRING HIM BREAKFAST.

BY ADMITTING SHE WAS INSIDE
KELLY'S APARTMENT

THE SAME WEEKEND
HE WAS KILLED,

ANGELINA IS PUTTING HERSELF
AT THE CRIME SCENE.

DETECTIVE WOODFORD NEEDS
TO TRY AND GET ANGELINA

TO COMMIT TO MORE DETAIL.

THERE WAS SO MANY THINGS
THAT SHE WAS SAYING

THAT WASN'T ACCURATE
AT ALL.

Narrator:
FLUSTERED AND CONFUSED,
ANGELINA GETS EMOTIONAL.

[ CRYING CONTINUES ]

WOODFORD TAKES ADVANTAGE
OF ANGELINA'S EMOTIONAL STATE

TO ASK MORE POINTED QUESTIONS
ABOUT HER EX-HUSBAND'S DEATH.

Bakke: I DON'T KNOW IF
SHE'S ACTUALLY CRYING,

OR THIS IS JUST
A STALLING TACTIC FROM HER.

**

Woodford: ANGELINA
WANTED A LOT OF BREAKS.

IF THE QUESTION GOT HARD,
THEN SHE WANTED A BREAK.

I THINK SHE WAS HAVING
A HARD TIME

KEEPING EVERYTHING STRAIGHT.

**

Narrator:
DETECTIVES BAKKE AND BEBEAU,

WATCHING THE INTERROGATION
REMOTELY,

SHARE WOODFORD'S FRUSTRATION.

Bakke: GETTING HER TO KEEP
TALKING WASN'T THE PROBLEM.

GETTING HER TO TALK SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS.

Narrator: DESPITE ANGELINA'S
PLAYING FOR TIME,

DETECTIVES HAVE ALREADY
MANAGED TO GET HER TO CONFIRM

THAT SHE WAS
AT BOTH CRIME SCENES

WITH BOTH VICTIMS IN THE DAYS
BEFORE THEY WERE SHOT TO DEATH.

THEY AGREED TO GIVE
ANGELINA AN EXTENDED BREAK.

LATER THAT NIGHT, DETECTIVE
BAKKE OF THE SIOUX FALLS

POLICE DEPARTMENT

TAKES A TURN
IN THE INTERROGATION ROOM.

HE CHALLENGES ANGELINA
TO EXPLAIN

WHAT HAPPENED
AT THE CRIME SCENES.

Bakke: THIS WAS EARLY ON
IN OUR FIRST MEETING.

I'M HERE TO LET HER KNOW THAT
WE'RE NOT GOING TO REHASH

AND GO OVER MINNESOTA.

THERE'S NO NEED
TO GO OVER IT AGAIN.

I'M MORE AT THIS POINT
TRYING TO SET UP

WITH HER THE FACT
THAT I WANT THE WHY.

Narrator:
ANGELINA STICKS TO HER STORY

THAT SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH EITHER MAN'S DEMISE.

IT WAS KELLY AND MICHAEL
WHO WANTED EACH OTHER DEAD.

Bakke: DID I LOSE MY TEMPER?

NO.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'D
CALL IT AN ACT.

IT'S PART OF JUST, ONCE AGAIN,

SETTING BOUNDARIES
BETWEEN EACH OTHER.

YOU NEED TO BE IN CONTROL
OF THAT INTERVIEW.

YOU NEED TO BE THE ONE TALKING
AND HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND

THAT IT'S YOUR ROOM
AND NOT THEIRS.

Narrator:
AFTER 2 HOURS OF WHAT DETECTIVE
BAKKE BELIEVES ARE MORE LIES,

HE STOPS THE INTERVIEW.

DETECTIVES ARE CONVINCED
ANGELINA IS GUILTY,

AND SHE'S JUST TRYING
TO STALL THE INVESTIGATION.

Bebeau:
IN ANGELINA'S CASE, SHE ALWAYS
WANTED TO HAVE A SMOKE BREAK.

SHE WANTED SEPARATION.

THEN YOU HAVE TO REIN THEM BACK
IN AND KEEP THEM ON FOCUS.

Narrator: NEXT, LIEUTENANT
DETECTIVE GREG BEBEAU

OF ASHLAND PD IN WISCONSIN

TAKES A CRACK AT INTERROGATING
THEIR PRIME SUSPECT.

TO HAVE A CHANCE AT TRIPPING UP
ANGELINA IN A LIE,

HE NEEDS TO CATCH HER SAYING
SOMETHING HE CAN DISPROVE.

YOU WATCH THEIR BODY LANGUAGE
AND THEIR EYE MOVEMENT.

YOU WATCH FOR THEIR
SIGNS OF DECEPTION.

Narrator: FOR 3 DAYS, ANGELINA
O'MARA STICKS TO HER STORY.

SHE WAS FLEEING TWO LOVERS
WITH DEADLY INTENTIONS,

BUT WHEN INVESTIGATORS RECEIVE
THE FINAL AUTOPSY REPORTS,

ONE DETAIL STANDS OUT.

Bebeau: THE CALIBER OF WEAPON
THAT WAS USED TO KILL

JAMES KELLY WAS THE SAME CALIBER
THAT KILLED MIKE PIES,

THE SAME CALIBER OF WEAPON
THAT MIKE PIES HAD OWNED.

**

Narrator:
AND AT LAST, ANGELINA O'MARA
BEGINS TO CHANGE HER STORY.

Narrator: FOR THE PAST 4 DAYS,
ANGELINA O'MARA HAS BEEN HELD ON

PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THE MURDERS
OF HER BOYFRIEND,

MICHAEL PIES, AND HER
EX-HUSBAND, JAMES KELLY O'MARA.

Bates:
WE'RE ALL THINKING, YOU KNOW,

THERE'S NO WAY THAT
SHE COULD'VE DONE THAT,

BUT BOTH MEN THAT SHE APPARENTLY
LOVED ARE GONE, SO...

**

Narrator:
FROM THE START, O'MARA HAS
REJECTED EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE

AND EVERY THEORY OF THE CRIMES
WITH WHICH SHE'S BEEN PRESENTED.

THEN, DETECTIVES MAKE
A STARTLING DISCOVERY.

Bakke: SO ORIGINALLY WHEN
ANGELINA'S VEHICLE IS LOCATED,

A SUBSEQUENT SEARCH
OF THE VEHICLE

REVEALS SOME LOOSE
.22 AMMUNITION.

THERE WAS A RECEIPT THAT
WAS FOUND IN HER VEHICLE

THAT SHE HAD PURCHASED
.22 SHELLS.

Narrator: AUTOPSY REPORTS
CONFIRM A.22 CALIBER WEAPON

KILLED BOTH KELLY AND MICHAEL,

AND A.22 RIFLE MICHAEL
OWNED IS MISSING.

THE EVIDENCE AGAINST
ANGELINA O'MARA IS MOUNTING.

DETECTIVES KEEP
PRESSING ANGELINA,

FOCUSING ON HER FINAL MOMENTS
WITH HER BOYFRIEND,

MICHAEL PIES.

Bebeau:
YOU JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY.

WHAT COULD HE HAVE POSSIBLY DONE

THAT WOULD DRIVE YOU
TO KILL HIM?

Narrator:
POLICE BELIEVE ANGELINA TOOK THE
MISSING MURDER WEAPON WITH HER

WHEN SHE LEFT THE HOTEL ROOM.

ON SOME LEVEL, SHE'S DONE,
AND WHEN YOU GET A SUSPECT

WHO'S IN A POSITION LIKE THAT,

THEY START TO REALIZE
THAT THIS IS IT FOR THEM.

THEY CAN REACT IN ANY NUMBER
OF WAYS AT THAT POINT.

TEMPER TANTRUMS LIKE
THAT CAN VERY OFTEN

BE A SIGN OF GETTING CLOSER.

YOU'RE TOUCHING NERVES THAT NO
ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TOUCH YET.

I'VE ALWAYS LIKENED IT TO BEING
THE PERSON WHO HAS A FLASHLIGHT

AND IS SHINING IT
INTO A REAL DARK SPOT.

THERE'S COMFORT IN DARKNESS
FOR PEOPLE WHO DO EVIL THINGS,

A LOT OF COMFORT,

SO WHEN YOU TURN THAT LIGHT ON,
THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

Narrator:
FINALLY, ANGELINA ADMITS
SHE HAD A LETHAL ENCOUNTER

WITH MICHAEL PIES.

IT IS TRULY THE MOMENT
OF DECISION FOR HER.

SHE DOES DECIDE
TO TALK ABOUT IT.

Narrator: BUT ANGELINA SAYS
IT WASN'T MURDER.

SHE HAD NO CHOICE
BUT TO KILL MICHAEL.

ANGELINA NOW CLAIMS A FIGHT
LED TO A STRUGGLE,

AND THAT SHE SHOT
MICHAEL PIES IN SELF-DEFENSE.

ANGELINA'S CLAIM OF
SELF-DEFENSE IS PUZZLING.

THE SCENE OF THE CRIME SHOWED
NO INDICATION OF A STRUGGLE.

DETECTIVE WOODFORD RETURNS
TO THE INTERROGATION ROOM

TO FIND OUT EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED

IN ROOM 12 OF
THE ANDERSON HOTEL.

Woodford: AT THIS POINT,
WHEN SHE'S EXPLAINING

MICHAEL HAVING THE GUN

AND SAYING THAT HE'S
GOING TO SHOOT HER...

Narrator: DETECTIVES TAKE TURNS
ASKING FOR DETAILS

ABOUT THE SEQUENCE
OF EVENTS,

HOPING TO CATCH
ANGELINA O'MARA IN A LIE.

SO...

Narrator:
THEY KEEP ANGELINA TALKING,

AND SHE FINALLY GIVES UP
A CHILLING DETAIL

THAT DOES FIT THE CRIME SCENE.

HE WAS LAYING DOWN
IN BED ON HIS BACK

WHEN SHE SQUEEZED THAT TRIGGER.

THAT'S MURDER.

THAT'S NOT SELF-DEFENSE.

AS I WATCH THAT,
I GET ANGRY RIGHT NOW.

I DIDN'T FEEL ANGRY THEN,

PROBABLY BECAUSE I KNEW
I HAD A JOB TO DO.

Narrator: WHAT LED ANGELINA
O'MARA TO SHOOT HER BOYFRIEND,

AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENED
IN HER EX-HUSBAND

JAMES KELLY O'MARA'S APARTMENT?

YOUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GET
THE REASON WHY, GET THE MOTIVE.

Narrator: DETECTIVES NEED
A FULL CONFESSION

TO BOTH KILLINGS
FROM ANGELINA,

AND IT'S NOW OR NEVER.

O'MARA'S CLAIM OF SELF-DEFENSE
IN THE DEATH OF MICHAEL PIES

WON'T GUARANTEE
A MURDER CONVICTION,

AND SHE REFUSES TO ADDRESS
HER EX-HUSBAND'S DEATH.

YOU TAKE IT AS FAR
AS YOU THINK YOU CAN,

AND IF YOU CAN'T TAKE IT
ANY FURTHER, YOU JUST WALK AWAY.

Woodford:
THROUGHOUT THE INTERVIEWS,

EVERYTHING THAT ANGELINA
SAID TO INVESTIGATORS,

A LOT OF IT DIDN'T
ADD UP AT ALL.

Narrator: ANGELINA O'MARA
HAS TOLD INVESTIGATORS

THAT THE DEATH OF HER BOYFRIEND,
MICHAEL PIES, WAS AN ACCIDENT,

THE RESULT OF A STRUGGLE IN
THEIR HOTEL ROOM IN WISCONSIN.

IT TOOK A LONG TIME
TO GET TO THE POINT

WHERE SHE FINALLY ADMITS SHE
INTENTIONALLY TURNED THE GUN,

POINTED IT AND
PULLED THE TRIGGER.

[ GUN SHOT ]

**

Narrator: ANGELINA ADMITS
TO SHOOTING MICHAEL,

BUT AFTER 4 DAYS
AND 20 HOURS OF QUESTIONING,

DETECTIVES DON'T BELIEVE
IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE.

THEY WANT HER
TO CONFESS TO MURDER.

ANGELINA LEAVES THE
INTERROGATION ROOM

WITHOUT GIVING UP
A FULL CONFESSION.

SHE IS ARRAIGNED ON ONE CHARGE
OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER

AND ONE CHARGE OF
SECOND-DEGREE MURDER.

DETECTIVES TRUST THAT JURIES
IN MINNESOTA AND WISCONSIN

WILL SEE THROUGH THEIR SUSPECT'S
CONSTANTLY SHIFTING STORIES.

AT ANGELINA'S TRIAL,

PROSECUTORS SHOW THE
INTERROGATION TAPES TO THE JURY.

FELL OVER ON THE BED, AND THEN
HE FELL DOWN ON THE BED.

Yineman:
WE SAT RIGHT BEHIND ANGELINA.

I DON'T THINK WE PLANNED THAT.

WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE
SITTING RIGHT THERE,

AND WHAT IS SHE THINKING?

WHAT IS SHE THINKING RIGHT NOW?
IS SHE SCARED?

AND THEN HE WAS LIKE DEAD WEIGHT
AND FELL ON THE FLOOR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY HOURS IT WAS.

I FELT LIKE A GOOD PORTION OF
EVEN THE FIRST DAY OF TRIAL

WAS WATCHING THOSE TAPES.

- YEAH. HE FELL BACKWARDS.
- HOW DID HE GET ON THE FLOOR?

I'M LOOKING AT THE JURY
AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TAPES.

I CAN SEE HEADS DOING THIS,
GOING DOWN.

I MEAN, I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S
IMPACTING THEM, SO IN MY MIND,

I'M THINKING, "YEAH.
SEE, THEY SEE IT.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS
GOING TO BE GOOD.

WE'RE GOING TO GET HER."

Narrator:
AFTER THE TAPES ARE PLAYED,

ANGELINA O'MARA
STUNS THE COURTROOM

WITH A SUDDEN CHANGE OF HEART.

SHE DELIVERS THE CONFESSION
JAMES KELLY O'MARA'S FAMILY

AND DETECTIVES HAVE BEEN
WAITING SO LONG TO HEAR.

IT'S TRANSCRIBED
IN THE COURT RECORD.

"ANGELINA, I'M GOING TO DIRECT
YOUR ATTENTION BACK

TO OCTOBER 29th OF 2011."

"DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DAY?"
"YES, I DO."

"YOU HAD WITH YOU A.22.
IS THAT CORRECT?"

"AND WHERE WAS YOUR HUSBAND,

YOUR EX-HUSBAND,
WHEN YOU GOT THERE?"

ANSWER, "UM, HE WAS SITTING IN A
CHAIR, AND THEN HE LAID DOWN."

"WHEN YOU WENT TO HIS APARTMENT
WITH THE GUN,

IT WAS YOUR INTENTION

TO SHOOT AND KILL HIM.
IS THAT RIGHT?"

"AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, IN
FACT, IT DID CAUSE HIS DEATH?"

AND SHE ANSWERS,
"THAT'S CORRECT."

Narrator:
AFTER 20 HOURS OF INTERROGATION
AND 3 DAYS AT TRIAL,

ANGELINA FINALLY ADMITS
TO COMMITTING TWO MURDERS

IN TWO STATES.

ANGELINA O'MARA IS TWICE
SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON

WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY
OF PAROLE,

PLEADING NO CONTEST IN THE DEATH
OF MICHAEL PIES

AND GUILTY IN THE DEATH OF HER
EX-HUSBAND, JAMES KELLY O'MARA.

POLICE LATER CONFIRMED SHE DOES
NOT HAVE CANCER, AS SHE CLAIMED,

AND THEREFORE, COULD BE
IN PRISON FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

Yineman:
THERE IS A SENSE OF RELIEF
KNOWING THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED.

AS ANGRY AS I WAS,
THERE WAS A SENSE OF RELIEF

THAT IT WAS OVER,

AND IN MY HEAD, I KNEW THAT THE
HEALING PROCESS HAD TO START.

* HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU *

* HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU *

* HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR MOM *

* HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU *

O'Mara: AND MANY MORE!

Woman: BLOW THEM, MOM.

ALL RIGHT!

[ INDISTINCT CHATTERING ]

THAT WAS HARD TO SEE.
YEAH.

IT WAS VERY SWEET
HEARING HIS VOICE,

AND THAT WAS TOTALLY HIM,
YOU KNOW,

"AND MANY MORE!"

I JUST WANT TO REACH RIGHT
INTO THAT VIDEO AND HUG HIM,

JUST GIVE HIM A BIG KISS.

[ INDISTINCT CHATTERING ]

PRESENTS?

- WHERE ARE THEY?
- THEY'RE RIGHT HERE.

THE HEALING JUST TAKES
A LONG TIME, AND IT DOES COME,

BUT IN A SECOND
WHEN YOU HEAR THE VOICE,

AND YOU SEE HIM, YOU KNOW,
IT'S JUST LIKE YESTERDAY,

HE WAS HERE.

**