Epicly Later'd (2011–…): Season 1, Episode 4 - Andy Roy - full transcript

O'Dell: Can you show us your --
some of your tattoos?

Yeah.

Do you have one on your ass?
Oh, fuck!

Priya, don't stare at my butt.

[ Laughs ]

[ Humming fanfare ]

I got this one.
This one's my fucking favorite.

And it's my own fingers.

It's my own fucking fingers.

You know what I mean?
And then one --

Wait, hang on.
Let me get a shot of it.



Like, hold it --
hold still for a second.

What does it say?

It says "Fuck cops."

I fucking hate the law,

'cause they fucking
make you have no fun, man.

I want to do
what the fuck I want.

When someone tells you don't --
what you can't,

I'm gonna do it more.

I do whatever the fuck I want.
Pssh, pssh!

Carnie: A lot of skateboarders
are boring.

They don't want to talk.

They're scared
that the fucking cool kids

on the playground
are gonna make fun of 'em.

Andy does not have
any of those filters.



He's unlikely any other human
being, let alone a skateboarder.

[ Cheers and applause ]

He's got it all.

He skateboards, he gets people
hype, he's lovable,

he's a monster,

he's every single thing
you want in a human.

Burnett:
Andy's just like a mad dog.

Like, "Yah, yah, yah, yah! Yah!"

And when you hear him talk...
Fuck off! Aah!

Burnett: ...and you see him move,
like, it goes hand in hand, you know?

Carnie:
He has the most hyper style.

I mean, he just skates fucking
weird, but in a good way.

Like, it works for some reason.
I don't know why.

Aah!

With him, it's just his energy.
Uh, uh, uh, uh!

Stranger: I have as much fun
watching the guy get slammed

as I do watching him
make tricks,

'cause he's got, like,
the funnest bail ever.

Burnquist: I mean,
he's just such a rad dude,

and he has the nicest
personality, man.

And then all of a sudden,
he starts punching you,

and you get into fights
in the van,

and you're just like,
"What's going on?"

He would start fights
really easily.

Stranger: Definitely felt like
he had way more bark

than he deserved to have
in such a scrawny, little body.

Phelps:
He's just a true skate rat.

Sometimes, he really
even impresses me.

Burnett: Even though he can seem
really funny

and entertaining sometimes,

there's some rough stuff
in there

that kind of gives him
a lot more depth.

**

Andy: Hey, dude.
Hey, dude.

Man: Good life at 3:00
in the morning.

[ Laughs ]

O'Dell: Welcome back
to "Epicly Later'd."

We're meeting up with Andy Roy.

Yeah.

Andy Roy always seemed
like a spazzy,

kind of frightening character
in skateboarding.

There you go.

Andy kind of represents

a gritty, grimier side
of skating

where it was more
about a way of living --

no change of clothes, no
nothing, just skate and travel.

Was kind of early on known as
a Santa Cruz/Consolidated rider.

Eventually linked up
with Antihero,

but not long after
that just pretty much

dropped off
the face of the Earth --

drugs, prison, all kinds
of weird, sketchy robberies.

I don't know.
I just really want

to get to the bottom
of Andy Roy.

Andy: You can just jump
on your skateboard

and fucking book it and go
and do what what you want.

I want to do my own shit,
you know what I mean?

I like to just run free.

It takes, like, a fucking hour
these days

to get warmed up, man.

I know how to call, sext,
porno, and that's it.

I can't even goggle.

I don't even know
how to do that.

I got A.D.D. where...
I get frustrated.

I see one little thing, and if
it doesn't happen right there,

I-I'm over it.
I want to move on.

Man: Leave a message.

That's why I owe IRS
and everything else,

you know what I mean?
Like...

I cannot keep track
of responsibilities.

It's real hard, man.

I just want to skate and just
hang out, you know what I mean?

That overweighs
any responsibility by far.

I wouldn't shoot you, dude.
You're my homey.

O'Dell: Are you ready?
Where are you from originally?

I-I say I'm from Santa Cruz.

Actually, that's where I-I --
my skating, everything started,

but, uh -- but
I grew up in Modesto.

This is the shit that I've been
hiding my whole life. Hiding?

Hiding Modesto,
and it sucks and fuck.

You're just embarrassed?

Yeah, I -- we're there,
you know what I mean,

like, some little shit hole.

It's, like, some hillbillies,
they got, like,

less teeth than I do,
and I got, like, seven left.

I say I'm from
fucking Santa Cruz.

**

It is fucking
miserable out here.

Connie: It's warm, huh?

It was 106 for 4 days in a row
this last week.

[ Laughs ]
That's true.

I love my mom, you know?
That's my mom right there.

She was pregnant with me.
This is her graduation photo.

I'm that bastard-child shit,
you know, with no dad.

Whatever. My mom's cool.
She took care of me.

It was just she was a single mom

and fucking working jobs
and bartending, you know,

so she couldn't keep her eye
on me all the time.

I could just go run amok.

Come over here, honey.
Yep, Dad, you're in here.

He's trying to weasel out.

[ Both laugh ]
I was trying.

But she remarried to Duane Roy,
which is my stepdad,

and I love him very much.

Connie:
And we've been married 31 years.

Yep, 31 years.

To you?
Mm-hmm.

Thanks.

My mom and dad, they party.
They knew how to party.

Been there, done that.

[ Chuckles ] Mom.

They called her
"Party Girl."

[ Both laugh ]

She got hit with a shovel.

My mom used to cause
her trouble,

so I think
that's where I got it.

O'Dell: So, how was, uh,
Andy as a little boy?

[ Both laugh ]

Lots of energy.
Like this dog.

[ Laughter ]

He gets all excited.

**

O'Dell:
Were you a hyper little kid?

Andy: Yeah, I was
a fucking maniac, man.

The teacher would fucking yell
at me and stuff and, uh,

I -- I was just, like,
I couldn't sit down.

I don't know. I just wanted
to keep moving and, uh --

Yeah, I got a lot
of fucking energy, man.

He was getting crazy in class,
trying to make everybody laugh.

He used to like to show
his butt to everybody.

He was so daring.

[ Chuckling ]
He would try anything.

But he was like that
with everything he did.

**

And this is her doll room,
right, Mom? This is your --

They're all in the back.

Yeah, this is my doll room
and my sewing room.

I didn't have dolls
when I was young, so...

What's your favorite one, Mom?

My favorite?

Well, her.
Yeah, Sugar Britches.

And we went into Margaritaville,
and I carried her,

and everybody
thought she was real.

[ Both laugh ]

I have all his skateboards
and his magazines that he's in.

These are, like, I think,
a little older, right, Mom?

I think those are
your newest ones.

But, uh --
The sperm one is older.

Yeah. [ Laughs ]

And I think he still owes me
a couple that --

Yeah, I -- and the latest ones.

I heard about the latest one.
Am I getting one of those?

Do you want one of those?
It's...

Well, I wouldn't want to borrow
all your boards, but --

Yeah.

Uh, it's from this guy
right here.

You weren't thinking
about your son at all on that.

Uh, he'll understand
as he gets --

No, he won't understand.

Kids make fun of kids
when they're that age.

He's only 7.

They -- They won't see that.

They -- You don't know that.

Kids are on the computers now
all the time.

Kids are cruel to each other.

I know, I would fly
out there personally...

Yeah, well...
...and stick up for him.

You didn't think of him at all
when you did that.

I never met my real dad.

I didn't have much, uh,
people looking out for me.

My mom always made sure
I had cool shit.

Like, I'm not putting her
down like that.

She was single, so there was

a few different dudes
that she hung out.

One dude would put hands on me
when I was young, you know,

and she -- wherever she was --

She'd bring different dudes
home, and I acted --

hear shit going on in the room
at night, you know?

That fucks with you.
And then, or if I --

Hey, whatever, I go in there,

and you see
a fucking mound of blow,

and then...

A bunch of dudes just, like,
you know, and her fucking high,

like, I --
that's what I seen, man.

My mom stopped and got good,
and she's doing great now,

but that's just
what I fucking seen.

Yeah, and then later on,
it fucking caught up to me.

It was in my blood, man.

It was fucking bound to happen.

Uh... she told me,
"When we fucked around as kids,

we did drugs, but we didn't fuck
with heroin," you know?

They knew that was
the devil's drug.

I didn't know that.
I fucking just --

Whatever.
Fucking luck of the draw.

I got fucked with that bullshit.

Hey, I'm hanging out surfing.

Like, it's, like, cool.

Like, I'm at the beach and shit.

Check it out -- There's, like,
naked girls everywhere.

I'm a surfer.

I'm -- I fucking surf now.

We got some doo-doo,
some cocka-poopoo,

and we're gonna
make a bridge right now

to get to Buena Vista Pool.

Ah!

Aah!

I'm good.
Let's go!

**

Look, there it is!
There it is.

All right. Andy.
Hey, Andy.

Every day for six months,
I would come here after school.

I would try and get
in there and skate,

and the older dudes
would spit on me, run me over,

and told me to get
the fuck on out, that,

"You're in the way."

So, I'd wait till everyone left,

and I would skate it
in the dark.

Andy knew what he wanted to be

from when he was
a fucking grommet.

"No, Mom, I don't want
a baseball glove.

I don't want
a fucking soccer ball.

I want some new fucking wheels.

I want to go skate
fucking Buena."

That's what makes Andy
what he is today --

a true skateboarder.

**

They had a contest
at Buena Vista Pool.

Like, anyone could enter,
and I ended up winning.

This dude, Steve Keenan,
was, like,

team manager
for Santa Cruz Skateboards,

and he was, like,
"Dude, give me a call tomorrow.

You can come in
and get some free gear,

put you on the float team
or whatever."

And it was cool,
'cause I lived in Santa Cruz,

and then you ride
for Santa Cruz.

It was sick.

**

Salba was on the team,
Eric Dressen.

It was just neat
'cause it was legendary.

I worked for Santa Cruz,
I think, for, like, six years.

It was rad, but then, um, street
skating hit and baggy clothes

and rap music
was started happening.

Punk is out, rap is in.

And then they're, like,
"Hey, man,

you're not getting the photos.

You're gonna have to wear,
uh, all baggy pants

and have
an all-street-skating part."

So, then that Thrasher video
way back in the day,

I'm with Simon Woodstock.

As a joke, he took me to
Ross Dress for Less,

and we went and got
a bunch of baggy clothes,

and we went street skating,

and it was the clown,
fucking Santa Cruz,

'cause they kicked me off

because I didn't fit
to their fucking deal,

or I was being mean to other
riders, and they would quit.

- [ Laughs ]
- All right, see you, buddy.

I was dressed like this,
so they didn't bust me.

They did him!
[ Laughs ]

See what happens when
you wear the good stuff?

O'Dell: So, you got kicked off
Santa Cruz

'cause you weren't
doing pressure flips.

How did Consolidated
come into the picture?

It was, like,
Jason Jessee was, like,

one of the main dudes there,
and I looked up to him.

When he fucking hit
skateboarding

and I caught visuals
of him in magazines,

I was, like, "That dude's
a badass motherfucker."

And he was a fucking
maniac, you know?

Come to me, and kiss me.

Andy: That's a dude,
when I see him skate,

you want to punch
a motherfucker in the face.

Like, he gets me that excited.

I fed off his energy.
"Oh, my God. Andy's here."

Like, "We're really gonna
have a session now."

**

He kicks it up where you just
want to light your face on fire.

Whoo!

Andy:
Jason and those guys

asked me if I wanted
to ride for 'em.

Of course, I said "yes."

And we had a rad time.
We're Consolidated.

Young man:
This is the Consolidated tour.

Andy Roy didn't do
nothing this time.

**

Andy: We got voted
Most Stable Team in Thrasher.

We were solid.

O'Dell: And what happened
with Consolidated?

I was doing an interview
for Big Brother.

We got inside this van
in front of Consolidated,

and all of a sudden,
the slider door opens up,

and it's Jesse Paez,
and he's fucking in tears.

He's all, "Dude,
I just got kicked off."

We're, like, "Wait. What?"

So, yeah.
"'Cause I'm gonna have a kid,

and they think
I'm not gonna skate."

Hell, no.
Me and Karma went in there,

fucking destroyed everything --
ripped off the boards.

Like, you gonna kick
fucking Jesse Paez...

that was my exit, right?

See ya! I'm out.

Jessee: He's so loyal.

You know, Andy's
an amazing human.

And you never want to be
on his bad side,

and so many people have been.

Andy:
This is Derby Skate Park.

Sick.
Yeah, what's up, guys?

Is anyone in there?

- No.
- Dude!

It's good?
All right, sick.

Oh, fuck, yeah, dude.

Hey, you got a Consolidated hat.

Yeah.
How come?

Yeah.

But Jason Jessee left, dude.

That -- It's done.

That -- Jason Jessee --
that was Jason Jessee's company.

Birdo sucks, dude.
What?

What do you mean,
"What?"

Dude, he never did --
He could barely grind Derby.

Jason Jessee made
that shit happen.

I rode for them forever, and
he fucking kicked Jesse Paez off

and we all left,
and that was -- went downhill.

Birdo sucks.

Birdo sucks?
You better believe it.

What are you doing?

What do you mean
what am I doing?

I'm speaking my mind.
What are you doing?

I just don't get it, man.

Everybody's in town right now

working on the 25-year
anniversary video.

Of what? Consolidated?
Consolidated, yeah.

Where's Jason Jessee?
What?

You're serious!
They're suck, dude! They suck.

What's the big deal?
Man.

You -- don't get bummed.
That's just life, dude.

Trick hurts, huh?

Geez.

[ Chuckles ]
Hey, don't be sad, dude!

It's Go Skateboarding Day!

Oh, shit!
God damn it!

Well, I'm gonna skate today!

He got me.

Kooks.

Hello.
Hello.

It's a nice day today.
It's beautiful.

Are you guys having fun?

Can I get a high five?

O'Dell: All right.
Yeah, that was a good one!

Tershay:
Yeah, Andy has a good heart.

You know, it's just that
he's one of those people that

if he don't like you,
then he'll never like you.

Oh, he's coming back for more.
Here we go.

Are we fighting
or what are we doing?

Yeah, sure.
Yeah, is that what we're doing?

Sure.
How you want to do it?

Whatever, let's go.
Huh?

Let's go.
I'm ready.

Exactly -- huh?
I'm ready.

Is that what you want to do?
Fuck, yeah.

He asked me a question,
and I spoke my mind.

That's cool.
Yeah.

I told him we ride
for Jason Jessee.

Good for you. Good for you.
That's why we did.

And I said Consolidated sucks.
That's what I said.

I'm here. I'm here.

Yeah, and what, dude?
What are you gonna do?

What?
What are you gonna do?

Well, I mean, you wanted
to talk to him. Here he is.

Huh?
Let's settle it.

Get out of my face, dude.
I came here to skate.

Oh, you don't want to?
You just want to talk shit?

What are you doing?
Yeah, I can talk shit.

I can do whatever I want.
I can talk shit.

Okay.
Get out --

Do whatever
you got to do, Birdo.

Do whatever you got to do.

You guys came here, huh?
I mean, do what you got to do.

What -- What you wanted
to tell him. I want you to --

I mean, I just -- I told it.
Fuck Consolidated.

I'm not --
I'm not just gonna jump you

if you don't want to throw down.

I'm -- I came here
to fucking skateboard.

Why did you start shit?
I spoke my mind.

I didn't go say --
You know what? Fuck you, dude.

Fuck you, fuck Consolidated,
and that's exactly what I said.

They fucking kicked Jesse off
for no fucking reason,

and that's what I said.
And all we --

We kicked --
We kicked Jason Jessee off?

Jesse Paez.
Jesse fucking Paez. What?

And -- Did you guys not?

No. He didn't get kicked off?

No.
Bullshit.

Bullshit.

Keenan -- Keenan let him go.

There you go.
"Let him go."

"Let him go."
Right?

Kicked him off.

He's trying to fill you in
what happened.

Uh, I was there!
I was fucking there!

He came out crying, 'cause he
just had a fucking kid,

and you guys kicked him off.

I was fucking there!

I was there.
Right on.

Fuck Consolidated.
How 'bout that?

O'Dell: Let's just go.

Yeah, I want to get
the fuck out of here.

You just want to talk shit --
baseless shit?

What? I can say whatever
the fuck I want!

Big deal.

All of it together was just,
like, a fucking tornado.

That's what I felt.

Like we left everything a
fucking mess everywhere we went.

Man: Oh, my God.

See, when I came here, man, from
Santa Cruz to here...

She's all changed, man.

Fucking weird.

Straight up, man, speaking
of being part of a skate time

that's, like, gone, I think
we all are in a sense, you know?

Like, I've so few friends left
from that era --

from the '90s era --
I really enjoyed skated with,

so the ones that are left are,
like, hang on to you, you know,

'cause those connections,
they're hard to come by.

**

Thiebaud: San Francisco in,
like, the early '90s was, like,

this hotbed of progression

where I think it finally sunk
into all the skater's heads

that we -- they -- could do
anything they fucking wanted.

**

And I think Andy came into
San Francisco at that time

and was in a group
of skateboarders

who were just finding spots
in the city every day.

They would just get on their
skateboards and push and go

and wherever the hills
took them, that was their day.

They had just enough money
to make rent, skate all day,

and buy beer at night.

**

We had the fucking most
terminal crew of rip-ride dudes.

**

Cardiel: We were friends and,
like, brothers.

All of us were just animals,
just, like...

feeding on skating.

It was just, like,
fucking raw -- Get it.

**

Everybody skated
together every day,

but then everybody got
sponsored by different people.

Julien and John wanted to, like,

"We want to have a team
with our honeys.

Let's bring it back
and hang out with our friends

and put everybody on the same
team kind of," you know?

**

Andy: Julien's a badass
motherfucker, dude,

and if you're gonna
do something,

I want to be with the fucking
gnarliest of the gnarliest.

Me and Andy, our skate styles
are so completely different,

but it's pretty funny
that we ended up

being really good skate friends.

Just probably really got
cemented somewhere in the '90s.

Andy: At that time, I was hanging
out with Cardiel, Julien a lot.

I was, like, "I want to be
part of this shit."

It's the baddest fucking
company on the planet.

No matter what anyone says,

Antihero is the fucking truest
thing out there, period.

You know, Julien's mom
was an artist, so I think he --

he also has that angle of, like,

it doesn't need to be, like,
a regular skate company.

It can be something different.

Carnie: I don't know.
Antihero to me is, like, the way

they just handled themselves.

Especially in our culture today,

there's a lot of me,
me, me, me, me.

Antihero does not give
a fuck about that.

They're not look for attention.

They want to just fucking
hang out in the kitchen

and throw up all over the
fucking floor all night long.

That's the best video, man.

Fucking "Fucktards" video
is so good.

- I promise.
- Whoo-hoo-hoo!

Andy: Fuck yeah!

"Raaa!" right?

And that fucking
looked like the --

That literally was like
a Hollywood movie.

And it went straight out.
Bzzzp!

I was, like, "Dude, I want
to do that, too," so "Raaa!"

And then he would go "Raaa!"

Oh!

Andy: And then we were
going back and forth.

Like, he had a little bit
more on me.

I was running out of juice.

Fucking Andy, he started gagging
himself, and I was just, like,

"Man, he always take it
to that extra inning."

I will add that I did get kicked
out of that apartment

the next morning.

That's about it.
[ Laughs ]

Andy: Julien would always
look out for me.

They were going to Texas, and
Julien's like, "You want to go?"

I was, like, "Fuck, yeah,
let's do this."

I had a Consolidated shirt on,
I had a Consolidated board,

and that's all I fucking had.

I got to change my shirt
at some time, right?

It's gonna get dirty,
and I knew they had, like,

some T-shirts in there
with that fucking eagle.

That eagle, man.

So, I tried to wear my board out

so I could fucking
ask them for a board.

So, it happened and I got a
green shirt

with that fucking eagle

and I put that fucker on

and I fucking put
that Antihero skateboard

with the eagle, too, on...

It was the gnarliest
fucking feeling, man.

It was, like... Ugh!

Dude, Cardiel, Julien, like,
it's fucking on, motherfuckers!

**

[ Cheers and applause ]

And that shit right there
was in my life forever.

**

**

[ All shout ]

O'Dell:
That phase of Antihero,

you had the video
with the cow, but you --

That was my last video
that I was in, yeah.

So, you started disappearing.
What was some of --

what started to lead to you

not being around
Antihero anymore?

Uh...

Fucking, um...

I guess he was doing
some other stuff that eventually

wound up him
being a guest of the State.

[ Birds chirping ]

Oh, boy.

Here, uh...
Put it on top.

Yeah, so, this is
gonna be random.

When we were growing up, Reuben
would always party with us,

but he never, like, got into

the full fucking
gnarliness of it all.

So, he was just smart enough
to always bring a camera around.

Yeah, it was funny.
We always said that I was gonna

make a book of Andy, you know?

We were always kidding
around about it.

Crazy.
I had teeth still.

There's -- Brand-new teeth.

Hung over.

See, everyone had to be
so fucking tough in Santa Cruz.

Like, these were, like,
the dudes I fucking --

like, just what --
what's their deal, dude?

You know what I mean?
"I'm hard." Fuck yeah, sick.

"What are you doing?"
"Nothing," I said downtown,

trying to beat people up.

Fuck, Santa Cruz.

Andy: I come back from
skateboard trips, you know,

I go back to Santa Cruz.

I had some surfer friends
that I grew up with that

we drink, you know, smoke weed,

and then now they're fucking
smoking crack, you know?

I'm, like, I'll get drunk
and [inhales sharply] whatever.

I ran with that one
for a minute.

But I would come back and tell
John and Julien, like,

"Man, I smoked some crack
and this and that,"

and they're, like,
"Rad, dude, you did it,

and you came back,
got out of it," you know?

They're like, "That's good,"
you know? Whatever.

"You can do it and split."

Well, as you get deeper into it,
that shit will snatch it up.

I had broken my foot, and I was
out for, like, six months,

so I just started
hanging out in Santa Cruz.

And this dude was smoking
that heroin, and that was, like,

the beginning of the end
of my skate life.

It was my fault,
but this is the dude

that brought it around,
motherfucker.

Fucking heroin -- I don't
wish it on my worst enemy.

It fucking took
everything from me.

I'm in Santa Cruz, right?

And Jason Jessee calls me,

and he's, like, "Hey, man,
Jay Adams moved here.

He's looking for you.
He wants to hang out with you."

I'm, like, "Wait.
He's looking for me?"

We skated, and from that day on,

we were glued
to the fucking hip.

We were brothers.

Jessee: As far as I'm concerned,

Jay Adams is the inventor
of skateboarding.

He started everything
that we love.

Andy: He was skateboarding.

These dudes were the ones,
when there was no fucking waves,

they would get on the sidewalk
and they had to imitate surfing.

He was just, like,
a fucking ball of energy.

He was like a little kid, man.

I was, like,
"Dude, I like this dude.

This is, like,
right up my alley."

Jessee:
It's Jay Adams and Andy Roy.

You knew they were
gonna get along good.

He's the perfect psychopath,
and they were doing bad shit.

Tershay:
Jay's fucking crazy.

You know, they were doing hella
drugs like heroin and shit.

Jay Adams turned him on
to, like, booting drugs.

Booting means "intravenous."

Andy: He stayed at my house,
man, and --

and he was in the bathroom,
and he was,

like, "Andy, come here!"
I was, like, "Huh?"

I went in there and he was all,
"Let me see your arm!"

I'm like, "Huh?"

And he's all "pssh, pssh!"
Bam!

And it's just that fucking high.

It's like you're
on top of the world.

But you got to remember --

Anything that makes you
feel good --

alcohol, whatever it is --
There's a price to pay.

Shooting heroin in my neck.

I'd jump up on the counter,

and I would look off
the reflection

of the mirror and just...

jab the thing in my neck and --

Miserable.

It -- I-it happened to me, man.
I don't --

I had fucking skating.
I had the best friends.

I had the fucking --

[ Growls ]

Yeah.

Yeah, there was
some years where --

where he was just,
like, in and out.

Well, I mean, like, at one
point, we were just, like,

"What's up with Andy?
Why doesn't he --"

You know, we'd call
and try to engage with him,

and he would just blow us off.

Julien and the guys
would try to call me.

I'd avoid the calls.

But how are you supposed to
tell your best friend, like,

"Hey, I'm a fucking heroin
addict, dude," like --

I-I just didn't know...

what to do, man, and I just got
deeper and deeper

involved in it.

I lived with John up
in Sacramento,

and Andy called us up,
and he needed a place to live.

We were, like, "Come home.
We got you."

But he was still too fucked up,
but he wanted to get clean,

and he came up
and brought his backpack

and I think he lasted,
like, two days,

and then he was gone --
like, left his backpack behind

on the coach and was --
and then just disappeared

for another couple years.

Thiebaud: When you see someone
dealing with drug addiction

and what it takes from
what they could've had,

it's a fucking bummer, you know?

And seeing that happen
to Andy sucked, you know?

O'Dell:
So, how did you end up in jail?

Um...

From fucking doing drugs, man.

Like, robbing and stealing
and kicking doors in.

I started hanging out
with these dudes,

and they would go to the dudes
that were selling drugs,

they'd kick the fucking door in,
they'd tie him up,

and take the shit.

Bad shit happened, man,
and I was just a skateboarder.

But now I'm hanging out
with these fucking dudes

that have been
in and out of prison.

At first, I was getting,
like, petty thefts.

You know, that's, like,
just stealing.

After, like, the --
the third, fourth one,

they'll start giving you a year.

I get out, go back in,
get out, you know?

All of a sudden,
10 years went by.

This is what you get like
when you're locked up.

Bigger you get --
I was a fucking pit bull.

What was different about
the last time you got out?

Uh, you're allowed
magazines, you know,

so I'd be looking
at Thrasher magazines,

and I'd be seeing John
and Julien skating

doing exactly what we were doing

before I got locked up,
and I'm fucking over it, man.

I'm a fucking skateboarder.

I'm not some fucking junkie.

Fuck that. I don't want
to go out like a fucking junkie.

I want back in.

I'm fucking over being
a caged animal.

I want to fucking skateboard.

**

How was it to get
those kind of calls

when Andy was getting
in a little bit of trouble?

Was it -- Was that a hard
thing for you guys?

Oh, yeah.

In jail again.

Yeah, we didn't like it.

It broke their heart,
you know what I mean?

Yeah.

It cost us a lot of money.
[ Laughs ]

Look, man, like...
my mom worked hard.

They tried to look out for me,
you know, and then, like,

s-s-she raised me right.
Yeah.

When I got on drugs, that was
just the people I picked.

That was on me.

That had nothing to do
with my mom and dad,

because they --
they raised me comp--

You know, they --
they partied, yeah, maybe I --

I-I seen some things
that they did,

but I just so happened
to pick wrong people

and a bad choice of friends.

And it had nothing to do
with my mom and dad,

and that's what I want
you guys to know.

Like, that was on me, and, uh...

It's tough.
Yeah.

I mean, to see
your only son in jail...

and then worried he's gonna...
be beaten up or...

worse and...

Yeah, it wasn't easy.

Yeah, but that -- that's --

Life happens, you know,
and all you can do

is learn from it and --

But th-they --

It takes a little time,
you know, but...

O'Dell: How do you guys feel
about how he's doing now?

He's doing -- seems to be
doing well and --

Yeah, but... h-he needs
to make a living,

and he's got a son and...
he needs to take care of him.

Scrambling, yeah.
There ain't --

I only know skating,
like, you know?

It's hard to --
t-the way I look or whatever

to get a job and --

You don't look for jobs, though.

I just don't want to do
the 9, you know?

I just -- I need -- I --

W-W-- that's a whole
'nother thing, but I --

H-Hopefully everything
will work out, man.

It'll -- It --
I'll make it happen.

They were saying that Mic-E

would bust you
stealing boards or --

I got away with it more
than he caught me, though.

Let's just get that straight
out of the gate right now.

O'Dell: Oh, let me get one shot
of you up in your bed,

like you're waking up.

It's not much bigger than
a prison cell in here, right?

No, this is exact --
and then you're on the dou--

you're on the double bunk.

This is...
pretty much your cell.

But I -- I get to go
outside of it

and I get to leave
and come back,

and I can go a little further
than, like, the prison yard,

so I'm good.

I got out of prison,
and I met this girl.

I ended up getting married,
and I fucking had a kid.

Give Dad's teeth back!

Thank you!

And I moved to Modesto,
and I did this family life --

I didn't drink, do nothing.

I started doing
these lessons and stuff.

So, we just do a camp
and have fun.

And what boards do we ride?
What boards?

Antihero!
That's right.

He was doing skate camps.

He had, like, a minivan,
and, like, you know,

take 'em to skate parks,
and, well, everybody loved him.

What do we do?
Skate fast?

Aggressive?
Spill blood.

Let's get it, dude.

Brenes: And at first, I guess,
you know, the moms

and the dads were
a little bit skeptical

just 'cause of the way
he looked and everything.

Don't make me give you
a beatdown, dude!

But then he's all good.
They're all, you know, like,

"You're so good with kids,"
and everything.

Dude, kids fucking love him,
'cause he's a good listener,

and he really talks
to them with his heart.

Andy: This is what skating's
all about, right here.

I know you can do it.

Jessee:
He gives them this confidence

that maybe they
don't get at home.

See?
That was easy!

Dude, you just did something
you didn't want to do.

That was sketchy.
Come here!

And that confidence,
they'll never forget.

Cardiel: You see him with,
like, young kids

skating, like, he's rad with it.

Fuck, he's a fucking -- yeah.

I mean, I don't want
to good guy it up too tough,

'cause he's fucking gnarly.

Fucking just like
everybody else.

You got fucking good
and bad, so --

Andy: I was doing a
skateboard camp. It fell apart.

Willie!

And money become an issue,
like it does with anybody.

It's fucking hard, and, uh...

I got a divorce.

I didn't know
what to fucking do.

I-I called Julien.

He needed to get a job, man.

The guy needed some discipline
in his life, straight up.

So, I was, like, "All right,
Andy, got you, man."

You bring your shipping
manager into your office,

and you close the door,
and you're, like,

"Look, I need a favor.

There's this guy.

I don't think you've met him.

I need to get him a job.

Can you fucking work
with me here?"

You give Andy Roy a chance.

Andy: They gave me a job,

and I just figuring out
how to sort of ship,

where you, uh, you weigh it
and send it out?

I did it, man.

I did it for a year and a half.

Oh, this is just random shit

A-Andy would do
to express himself,

by writing on the walls.

"DLX dungeon slaves."
"Fuck you."

Andy Roy had kind of, like, a --

a reputation
for being a character.

He would do crazy shit.

He would take off his,
uh, his clothes,

and he'd get up on a cart,

and this other dude
would push him around,

and he'd tuck his shit
in between his legs

and, you know, like the guy
in Buffalo Bill,

"Silence of the Lambs" scene?

And he would just sit there and
pose in all his glory and stuff.

Andy Roy was not
a good employee, period.

It's not a good testament to me
as a manager to have people quit

because Andy Roy works here.

O'Dell: Is he a tough dude
to sometimes have to vouch for

to go, like, "Oh, well,
hire him here," or...?

Yeah, but I'm pretty good about

not taking
responsibility for him.

Like, he -- he does a good job
of letting it be known

that he's his own asshole.

They were saying that Mic-E

busted you maybe
stealing boards or...

I was broke, man.
I was trying to fucking eat.

Wasn't like I was buying a car,
a Ferrari or something.

I was just trying to
fucking eat and survive.

Mic-E Reyes worked
at Deluxe, and he --

he's, like, the muscle there.

He was a fucking ex-cop,
which I fucking hate cops,

so he would try and catch me.

Mic-E knew all
of Andy's hiding places.

He would love to show me
Andy was fucking up,

so he would take me
into a corner of the warehouse

and be, like,
"There's 19 boards here

that he's been storing, Jim,

that he's gonna try
and figure out

how to get out
of this warehouse."

And I was just, like,
"Fuck, dude. Seriously?"

Andy: So, then, uh,
Jim and Mic-E are heading to their office,

and then they're, like,
"Hey, Andy, come in here."

And the whole fucking office
had all the boards laid out.

Please, dude, like,
you cannot steal from Deluxe.

He rides for the company,
he works for the company,

and he steals from the company.

And then he
high fives me every day.

[ Laughs ]

Dude, I can't.

But Jim was so fucking rad.

He was just, like,
"W-What the fuck?

Like, really?"

I'm all, "I'm a hoarder."

I'm all, "I like the boards.
I collect 'em."

Does Andy strike you
as a collector?

I -- I think that anything
he was taking back there

was not, like,
for a board on the wall.

[ Chuckles ]

This is everything I collect,

the skateboard stuff, um...

Like, I want to start a museum,
and I got all these boards.

Uh, Jim, Julien,
you guys at Deluxe,

if you ever need a-a board

to look at
if you don't have one,

I-I-I've got it for you guys.

I-I'll -- I'll look it up
on my roller dex thing

and show you guys.

**

Thiebaud: I realize I can't take
the good that Andy brings

and then, like,
not take the bad, as well.

Like, look, this is from --

Look -- This was when rode
for Santa Cruz.

This was custom.

Jim Thiebaud, look
at that, buddy, Jim.

What's up?

That's right.

O'Dell: Why does he get
so many chances with you guys?

It's so tough, dude.

Why does Andy get
so many chances?

It's so tough.

Um...

I give him chances in hopes that
he will take responsibility,

because if he does that,

then I think what Andy brings
is so fucking special

to skateboarding that it's worth
a third or fourth

or fifth chance, you know?

And I don't want to
give up on that.

T.M.O. gets fired up,
then Andy gets fired up,

and then the whole motherfucking
18 crew gets fired up.

[ Panting ]

I need a little breather.

Yeah, I feel like
I'm gonna throw up.

[ Laughs ]

[ Retching ]

You can be ugly, broke, but
if you can make a girl laugh,

the fucking panties will fly
r-r-right off their body.

No. [ Laughs ]

I-I won't --
I won't. I promise.

Oh, God.
No, just give me a kiss.

Holy fuck.

Aah!
Man: Whoa!

Oh, I got her.
She knew I was gonna do that.

O'Dell: Let me get a shot
of you guys together.

Take that cigarette out.

That's cancer right there.

All right.
Come on. Come on. Come on.

Khosla: I feel like people
just think that he's, like,

some fucking psycho dude,

and, like, there's
that part of him,

but there's also, like,
the sweet, like, nice Andy.

When we're at home,
he'll do, like,

crossword puzzles in, like,
In Touch magazine

and, like, put his glasses on,
and we just chill.

He's really sensitive.

He's a sensitive
shell collector.

That's what he always says.

You know, you can't be
the most punk dude.

It doesn't last forever.

I mean, I know some
really tough people, but...

Andy ain't one of them.

**

Rogers: He's tight, like,
with this Potrero deal.

I mean, this is a
cool scene down there.

Right on.
Get some, man.

He's, like, one of
the ringleaders, man.

He's what -- what you hear
when you go there.

He's screaming.

Oh!
Fucking get it!

Pushing people and,
"Fucking do it! Do it!"

**

Burnett: He's -- he's living it,
you know?

He's in there.
He's regulating.

Andy just lives
and breathes skateboarding.

**

Let's fucking get some, dude!
Let's fucking do this! Fuck it.

Oh, you go before me...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

...since you're
fucking grinding --

'Cause you can dredge it, right?

Yeah, yeah, I should be
able to figure it out. Okay.

Yeah, I was not sure what I was
getting myself into at first

when I moved in
with Andy, but, uh...

he is a fucking pretty
high-energy person,

but I mean, I was fucking 20
when I moved in there,

so, I mean, I fucking had
all the energy in the world.

Sometimes when you meet
your heroes or whatever,

you can be
disappointed, I guess,

but, like, I was stoked.

He was -- seemed just as
fired us as fucking 20 years ago

or whatever it was when I was
watching footage of it,

you know?

Fuck!
He made it, too, huh?

God damn it.

People only see the craziness

and the fucking wild side
of him,

but he is fucking
totally normal, dude.

We hang out and watch
movies and fucking,

you know, just kick it.

I roll in,
then you got it, right?

**

Man: Yeah!

[ Cheers and applause ]

That's my fucking buddy
right there.

I love that motherfucker
forever.

Whatever he's doing,
he is fucking doing it 100%,

and whether it's
fucking doing drugs

and causing a ruckus
or skateboarding

and hanging out with kids

and stoking people the fuck out,
it's 100%.

So, luckily,
we got him back to our side,

and he's fucking skating
and killing it, man.

[ Cheers and applause ]

You know, Andy's lived
through at least

three generations
of skateboarding.

You know, people come and go.

Thank God Andy hasn't.

It's super rad for him
to get the notoriety

he's getting now on, like,
"King of the Road"

and -- and bigger stages,
you know?

On your mark...
get set... go!

[ All cheer ]

You guys ready
to fucking battle?

You just need
that raw enthusiasm, you know?

Boo! Aah!

Burnett: The real magic is
in just letting Andy be Andy.

Get it!

Burnett: Fuck, man,
that's the most natural kind

of talent you can have.

Aah! Check!

Got that motherfucker!

I don't think he's there
yelling because

it's, like, a jock thing, like,

"You get it.
Lift more weight.

Get it! Get it! Get it!"

Get it!

I think he understands
that when you make a trick

that you've been trying forever

or that you're in
one of those sessions

that you know is special
with your friends...

- Whoa!
- Yep.

...he knows that those
are the things

you're gonna remember
for the rest of your life,

so I think calling him
a hype man is a full disservice.

He puts his body on this line

so that you will make the trick
that you've been trying

so you'l have the memory.

Tershay: I think he's starting
to get some, like, love again.

Hopefully he'll be smarter
and embrace it better.

But I think he has a better head
on his shoulders.

[ Laughs ]
Alalalala!

But he will always be a punk.

Aah!

O'Dell:
Does he have a board out?

He -- no, not right now.

Andy's on time-out right now.

He pulled some dumb shit --
Shit in his own backyard.

Burnett: I think even people
that help him out

have felt the sting of Andy Roy
from time to time.

And I don't even think that that
makes him, like, a bad person.

I just think if you want
to fuck around with Andy Roy,

like, you're gonna
have to expect

some of this stuff a little bit.

Andy: I-I know I'm a pest.

I'm irresponsible as just

a fucking loose cannon
or something,

or maybe I'm just
fucking cuckoo,

but as you get older,
you mellow out.

A-All the shit
I've been through,

I-I shouldn't even be living.

Every morning
I wake up breathing,

I'm very happy.
You know what I mean?

I-I'm very thankful.

I -- there's still a lot more
I want to do, man.

It's a trip.

I mean, look at this.

Fucking beautiful.

See? Sick.

Look at the fucking rainbow!
Rainbow!

Trip out.

Hey, that's romantic!

That's romantic!

Isn't it?!
You guys should kiss!

Kiss!

**

Good times.