Chelsea Does (2016–…): Season 1, Episode 4 - Chelsea Does Drugs - full transcript

[man chanting in foreign language]

[rattling]

I'm fucked up.

- You are?
- Yeah.

[Jenny] I'm fucked up now.

- [Dan] Yeah.
- [Jenny] Ugh! Oh, my God. [Chuckles]

Oh, the room's dizzy. I'm so dizzy.

Are you having bad thoughts?

Yeah.

Ugh.

I want it to be over.
'Cause it just doesn't feel good.



[sizzling]

[metal utensil stirring]

- [Josh] Edible weed is the best.
- [Dan] It's the best.

[Fortune] I'm gonna get really high.

[all laughing]

I got my weed card just for you.

- You did? For this dinner?
- [Fortune] Yeah.

I went to a shady weed place in the Valley.

And my guy was like, "Tell me
your symptoms in two words or less."

And they have a list
of what's okay symptoms and what's not.

I go, "Uh, headaches." Then I go, "And..."
And he goes, "No."

[all laughing]

- So, which dish is this?
- This is our tomato bisque soup.

[Chelsea] A tomato bisque soup.
Which weed is in this one?



- OG Kush.
- [Chelsea] Okay.

- [Josh] Are there any drugs...
- That I haven't done?

Yeah, that you're almost scared to do?

Yeah, I'm scared to do Ayahuasca.

- I mean, I'm not really scared.
- Yeah.

But I've read a lot about it,
and it intrigues me.

I would be scared to shoot heroin.

But if it were legal,
I would shoot heroin with a doctor,

giving me a safe amount,
so I could just experience the intensity.

I like to experience every possible
experience that I can have.

I just can't believe that weed isn't legal
absolutely everywhere.

Especially when it makes people
so friendly and nice.

- That's a good drug.
- [Josh] It is.

Can we get high and go to the beach?

"This is warm and feels great."

To me, that's my experience in Ecstasy
when I'm at the beach.

You like it?

She once had sex with this guy
when we were waiting tables.

You had to preface it with this.

This was my first time doing Ecstasy,
and he had really rough skin,

and we made out for, like, ever.
And then it got infected because...

[all laughing]

That was disgusting, actually.

- I remember.
- It was really disgusting.

You were walking around in shame.
'Cause then you come down...

There have been some highs where you get
super horny, and there are some times...

Like, the last times
I've done Molly, I'm not like...

You don't get touchy-feely.
Molly's not as touchy...

Why are you laughing at me?

I just had a funny memory come back
from the last time we did it.

- Not everybody knew we were doing it.
- Right, right. [Chuckles]

You got up and straddled me. [Laughing]

- And kissed my ear.
- [Chelsea] I did?

[Stephanie] You're not touchy-feely at all.

And then, when you got off me,
and a guy was like...

- [all laughing]
- "What the fuck is going on here?"

[Chelsea] I don't have, like,
a favorite high.

Like, all highs,
they're kind of equivalent.

Yeah, but the next day
with weed is so much easier.

[Fortune] But you don't have the hangover.

I've seen you work out at 7:00 a.m.
the next day after partying all night.

I am actually in a better mood
after I've had a night of drinking.

Like, when I would go on a cleanse
and not drink

for eight or ten days... It's awful.

[Josh] That's true.
There was that little period

where you were super healthy
and it was like...

- [Stephanie] I remember that.
- Yeah! [Laughs]

They'd walk out and they'd say,
"How's it going in there?"

"She's on a cleanse." "Oh, fuck!"

[all laughing]

["Because I Got High" playing]

[Chelsea] I was really anti-drugs
growing up, which is obviously ironic.

My parents didn't drink.

My dad, he rarely drank.
My mom was a lightweight.

It was like, anybody who smoked pot,
I was really judgmental.

It's like, "How can you do that?
That's terrible."

And then I, you know, tried it
and was like, "Oh, wait."

I remember we just couldn't
stop laughing. Like, we couldn't...

Like, my cheeks were hurting,
and that feeling to me...

It's my favorite feeling in the world.
So I smoked a lot of pot.

I did a ton of acid in my senior year,
and we'd just, like, dance all night long.

And for somebody like me who has no rhythm,

like, you need acid to dance.
Like, I needed it.

Like, I took my SATs on acid,

which didn't turn out so well
for me or my SAT score, but...

I remember thinking
I was quicker, I was faster, I got it.

Like, I got... You know, I was funnier.

So, as a creative person,

are you a creative person who thinks
that it's mind-expanding to do drugs?

Yes. I like drugs.

I think they're good for the imagination.

I think they're good
for the thought process.

So, what do you think about sobriety?

- I think you said you don't...
- Boring.

...trust people who are sober or something?

- No, I do. I mean...
- That's a joke?

I have a lot of friends
that are sober because of AA.

I think rehab sounds like
a big black bummer.

I mean, I'm very aware
that I, you know, drink too much.

People would say, "Oh, you drink too much."

For me, I don't feel a lot of guilt
about that. I think that's fun.

I've always been attracted to being bad.
Like, I like being bad. It's fun.

So you don't think
you're glorifying alcohol or...

I glorify the lifestyle that I lead.
I definitely glorify it.

I think it's... it's glorifiable.

[Cheryl Shuman]
Marijuana is so sexy right now.

This is a plant that's gonna make
this country rich again.

Colorado has been raking in profits.

[reporter 1] And investors
have been piling into

the marijuana market in droves.

I think it's probably going to be
the biggest growth business

over the next ten years.

Welcome to the future Amsterdam
of the West.

My clientele is very upscale.

We are members of what we refer
to as high society.

In fact, we just designed a 14-karat
gold and pavé diamond vaporizer.

[reporter 2]
Singer-songwriter Willie Nelson

is getting in on the pot business,
complete with his own brand.

You order an ounce,
you can get a full Nelson.

Half ounce is a half Nelson.

Willie is 81 years old
and he's, uh, still flying high,

- as they say.
- Yeah.

- [Chelsea] Hey, there!
- Hey, how you doing?

- You look cute.
- Thank you very much.

- Hi. Enjoying the rain.
- How you doing?

- Hey, there, how are you?
- [Annie] Hey!

- This is Annie, my wife.
- Nice to meet you.

[Chelsea] This is a nice little pad
you got yourself here.

How's your weed company?

Well, we're just kinda kicking it off,
but it seems to be fairly, uh, popular.

Your publicist was telling me

that you guys have really good weed
to go to sleep.

Yeah, well, I think there's some experts
there, you know, trying to figure out,

"This weed does this, this weed does that."

I'm trying to help test as much as I can.

- Are you? [Laughs]
- Yeah. [Chuckles]

I think I read somewhere that you said
it cured your addiction to alcohol,

or helped you with your addiction
to alcohol and cigarettes.

I had been smoking a lot of cigarettes,
and so I decided to quit.

And every time I wanted a cigarette,
I'd take a hit off the weed.

- Uh, I didn't get much done.
- [both laughing]

But I quit cigarettes.

- Have you ever done Ayahuasca?
- No.

I'm going to Peru to do Ayahuasca.

It's supposed to be one of those
transformative experiences,

where you can look outside yourself,
and you kind of...

People say that it changes their life.

Oh, great. I'll go with you.

- Yeah, you could come.
- [chuckles] Yeah.

Um, a lot of people smoke pot
when they do Ayahuasca.

Do you have any Willie Reserve
that I can try?

I mean, that's kind of...

- You're the curator.
- We can test it.

[Annie] That's one that's a potential.

So, these two... You're coming out now
with a line of weed, right?

And we don't know what it is yet.

[chuckling]

And so how many people
do you have working at this company?

I don't know. There's, uh, you know,
there's a few gals up in Colorado.

I call them the High Women. [Chuckles]

- Did you do a lot of other drugs?
- Well, I have, but I'm not now.

Did you do LSD?
You must have done that, right?

I've tried it.

- Right.
- But, no, I didn't like that.

Uh, it lasted too long.

I guess if it had lasted 40 minutes,
it may have been okay.

- But 12 hours is too goddamn...
- That is the problem with LSD.

You're like, "What the fuck?
Still fucking high, like, a day later."

I ate too many cookies one time,
and I thought I was dying.

I could feel the flesh
falling off the bones.

Yeah, yeah, 'cause you get...
every hour, you get higher.

And then you think, "It's not hitting me,
it's not hitting me,"

and then you double-down
and then you're... It's like a bath.

[laughs]

And has there ever been a pot
you've smoked that you didn't like?

I've said this before. Pot's like sex.

Some's better than others,
but it's all good.

- Like pizza?
- [chuckling] Yeah. Sort of, yeah.

Do you think that this is gonna be
your legacy, besides music,

that you've brought marijuana
to the masses?

Oh, I think it might be
one of the funny ones.

- It is good, right?
- [chuckles] Yeah.

It's a cool way for people to remember you.

- Why not? Why not?
- Yeah!

Do you get stoned before you go on stage?

- Probably, yes. I just did.
- [laughs] That's the right answer.

[both laughing]

♪ Roll me up and smoke me when I die ♪

♪ And if anyone don't like it
Just look 'em in the eye ♪

♪ I didn't come here, and I ain't leavin'
So don't sit around and cry ♪

♪ Just roll me up and smoke me When I die ♪

[Chelsea] So you're a neuroscientist,
so what does that mean, exactly?

[Heather] So I basically study the brain
and its relationship to behavior.

I do things like FMRI, like neuroimaging.

So we can see in real time,
different types of brain activation.

We also do experiments with drugs,
so we give people different drugs

and see how it affects
their brain and their behavior.

So, I took a 5-hour Energy drink
with one thing of Adderall,

- which is five milligrams, I guess?
- Okay.

- Is it five milligrams?
- Yeah.

So why did you want to...
What's your interest in drugs that...

'Cause I just think everybody
abuses so many things.

I certainly have, you know.

I've abused so many drugs
or sleeping pills or...

But I think it's important
to just kinda demonstrate, like,

what's good for you,
what's not good for you.

Not to mix certain things.

So, how are you feeling right now?
Like, just physiologically, first.

I feel a little bit, like, high,
like, I'm hyper-focusing.

- Like, I'm like, blah.
- [laughs]

If you put your hands out like this,
are you shaking a little?

- Little bit. Yeah.
- Yeah, you got a little jitter.

What's the thing about Adderall?

If you need it, you don't feel this effect.

So, a person who needs it,

it'll just help them focus a bit more
when they're normally not able to focus.

- Right.
- Whereas, if you're already able to focus,

it might actually be
a cognitive enhancement for you.

So, when I... When you take...

I already forgot what I was going to say.
Maybe I'm not that focused.

Yeah, that's interesting.

- [laughing]
- Yeah, what the fuck is that?

Maybe we can do some tests,
just to see how it's affecting you.

- Let's do a memory test.
- Okay.

- So, you're learning Spanish, right?
- Yeah.

So, how old are you?

[Chelsea speaks Spanish]

- [both speaking Spanish]
- Yeah.

I'll try to combine them.
Where is the ugly, stupid pharmacy?

[speaking Spanish]

[both laughing]

You're very good at this.
We need something harder for you.

Oh, shit!

- Are we allowing two bounces?
- No, we're not.

Sometimes, I wear a tennis skirt
when I play this.

[laughing] No, you don't.

Yeah, you're not really challenged by this.

- Let's do a DUI test.
- Okay.

- I've done this before. A-B-C-D-E-F-G...
- Right, can you touch your nose? [Laughs]

Oh, I feel wobbly.

[Heather] Left foot, blue.

- Oh, fuck. My ass is in your face.
- [laughs]

Left, purple.

[Chelsea] You know what?
Maybe, yeah, this isn't the drug for me.

Just wanna sort of look at
what your focus is and your attention.

We're gonna have you draw a female.

- [Chelsea] This is her vagina. [Chuckles]
- [laughs]

[Chelsea] And these are her boobies.
Boom, boom.

[Heather] So she's naked.

So, you know,
you're not kind of a closed-off...

And we kind of know this about you,
but you're not a closed-off person...

What are you talking about?
Who knows that about me?

[laughs]

- And she's...
- But she's happy.

She's happy, though.

I mean, if you looked like this,
wouldn't you be excited?

[laughing]

Just with this drug, do you feel like
you would take it again? Or like...

I don't feel like myself,
so I feel a little bit like I don't...

I would not...
I don't think I'll take it again,

and I don't feel like I need to be
amped up like that.

Yeah, maybe you're more into the downers.

- Yeah, maybe.
- [laughing]

Well, we'll try some Ambien later.

- That'll be fun.
- Yeah, we'll try Ambien later.

With alcohol,
'cause I wanna see what that is.

Yeah. Not that I would
ever recommend that...

- No! Nor would I.
- Yeah.

[laughing]

[Josh] Do you have sex with your wife
when you're high?

Yeah.

- Do you like sex on weed?
- [Dan] I do, I do.

- Me, too.
- [Fortune] What makes it different?

- [Chelsea chuckling]
- You're gonna find out tonight.

[all laughing]

When I'm stoned, I don't ever,
like, wanna do anything sexual.

- Oh, man.
- Yeah, I don't. You don't?

[Josh] She's disappointed.
She's spending the night.

"I guess I'm calling an Uber."

- On a rotary phone.
- "Hello?"

[all laughing]

- I'm pretty stoned. Are you?
- [Stephanie] I'm feeling pretty good.

- Yeah?
- [Fortune] My eyelids are getting heavy.

- Yeah, are they?
- [Fortune] Yeah, that's all right.

Okay, so what you have now
is a braised lamb with gnocchi.

- That's an interesting cocktail.
- Yes.

[Fortune] You know what?

After everyone finishes their food,
can we wipe these off?

'Cause I'm building a patio in my backyard.

- I'm gonna need some stones.
- [Josh] Some stones just like this?

So if everyone would just wipe their plate.

[all laughing]

I think the worst drug I've ever done...
I did... I did crystal meth once.

[Chelsea] Oh, my God! You did crystal meth?

- Because somebody told me it was coke...
- White trash!

- [Josh] So he told me it was coke.
- [Chelsea] But you smoke crystal meth.

[Josh] Uh, no, a line.

- Oh, you snorted it? Okay.
- [Josh] Yeah.

And they were like, "It's coke,"
and I was like, "Okay."

And then I was like, "That burns,"
and they're like, "It's meth!"

- And then I was like, "Ahh!"
- [all laughing]

All of a sudden, you lost three teeth.

It was the worst two days of my life.
It was terrible.

[Chelsea] Isn't it amazing
that you can snort anything?

Like, people snort Adderall. They snort it.

- [Josh] Some people snort heroin.
- [Chelsea] Ecstasy.

And Ecstasy is really...
People are really irresponsible with that.

Because I've been around people
who do nine or ten pills a night of Molly.

And mix it with booze,
which you're not supposed to do.

Well, you can mix it with booze.

I mean... I mean, I can.

[all laughing]

There was one time, I said to you,
"I have a really bad headache,"

and you were like,
"Well, go into my purse."

And I found an extra-large
Excedrin Migraine.

- I took two.
- [Chelsea] And?

I was in outer space. It was Vicodin.

- [all laugh]
- Really?

I believe it. I believe it.

I've definitely given people drugs
and encouraged them to do it.

- [all laugh]
- [Josh] Yeah.

[Chelsea] My doctor gave me
something, Percocet,

the other day for the last injury I had.

"I'll write you a bottle for..."
And I go, "Please don't."

I go, "'Cause I'll do them recreationally.
Just give me what I need."

And maybe two extra."

[all laughing]

[Fortune coughs]

- Oh, my face.
- [all laughing]

[Dan] I'm gonna pontificate,
but, like, when I'm high,

I feel a little more chatty than usual.

It's one of those things
where there's, like, $4 billion spent

on drugs, or prescription drugs,
every year.

And like... [stutters]

- I don't know, I can't finish my thought.
- [all laughing]

This is ridiculous right now.

[all continue laughing]

[upbeat music playing]

Okay, so, I'm gonna take an Ambien,
but I need a glass of water for it.

I wanna show people what happens
when they drink and take Ambien.

So, I would never recommend
taking Ambien and drinking.

Just for the record.

No, you wouldn't recommend
taking Ambien and drinking.

This is not a recommendation from you.
I want to show to people what happens

when you get fucked up and you take
a sleeping pill and you stay awake.

- Yeah.
- I think a lot of people abuse this,

and they drink a lot, excessively,
and they go home.

And people say, "Don't combine
sleeping pills with alcohol."

Obviously, that's a no-no,
but I've done it.

And the last time I took Ambien,
I was in a casino in Connecticut,

at a Blackjack table,
in my robe, with my eye shades...

- No.
- Yeah.

Smoking a cigarette,
and then I doubled-down on 20.

- So, here we go again.
- So, that was the last time I took it.

The problem is,
when you start combining drugs,

like, if you combine a hypnotic drug
with alcohols,

it has a synergistic effect,

'cause they're both things that are
slowing down the nervous system.

And if you take them in combination...
I mean, people can die

because it slows you down to the point of,
like, where your respiration stops.

Right. So, I took one five-milligram.

I just took the second,
so that's ten milligrams, and then...

Ten milligrams, and a couple...
How much alcohol did you drink?

This is my second cocktail.

- So, let's see...
- Okay. And it's just straight vodka.

So, all right. I have no idea.

Um, okay, okay. We're gonna do this.

Are you okay? You're good?

Why don't you speak
a few sentences in Spanish,

read them, and then I'll tell you
what they mean in English?

[Heather] Okay.

[speaking Spanish]

- Um, I... eat...
- Mmm-hmm.

- No idea what that means.
- "I eat..." [laughing]

Like, I definitely feel the weight
of my brain is getting, like, weighty.

- It's getting... [laughs]
- Yeah, I feel heavy.

- I feel heavy.
- Right now, just observing you,

your eyelids are kinda getting lower,
and you're looking like,

you know, you have that
kind of fucked-up look to you.

[voice distorted] And it's like that is...

[Chelsea, voice distorted]
I like that look.

- Yeah.
- [Chelsea speaks Spanish]

[Heather] I'd like you to also do the ABCs.

- Okay. A-B-C-D...
- And it has to be heel to...

[Heather] And do the finger to the nose.

...E-F-G...

- H-I-J...
- [chuckling] No, it's not working.

No, it's not working,
it shouldn't fucking be working.

Right foot, green.

[Chelsea] Hmm.

- [laughing]
- This could be a problem.

- [Chelsea] Hold on.
- [Heather] Okay.

- [Chelsea] Wait.
- No, you can't take your hands off.

- [Chelsea] Okay. All right.
- You have to keep them where they were.

[Heather laughing]

I can't do it.

[Heather] I would like you
to draw your mother.

- Okay. She had red, curly, curly hair.
- Mmm.

These would be her feet.

And then, my dad would be,
like, bigger head.

He's always reaching out to somebody.

He's probably trying to give her a bagel.
Let's make that a bagel.

- I am a little girl.
- Mmm.

Very confused about why my parents
don't have a bank account.

And I'm going, "Where is the money?"

I have one sister who looked like
that cartoon character, Cathy.

And then, Glen has another family,
one, two, three, four, five.

Right. Was there a third one?

- My brother died. So...
- Oh.

- Boom, boom, boom, boom.
- Okay. [Chuckles] He went out.

So, this looks like it's telling a lot
about your situation growing up.

It just seems that you're getting a little
bit deeper into your own...

- Psychosis?
- Yeah.

Probably now, than you were,
maybe before, like, on Adderall.

So, like, how are you feeling right now?

Yeah, you're pretty chill. [Laughing]

Chunk looks at me with judgment.

I don't know if you can see him,
but he fucking looks at me.

[Heather] Oh, my God. He does.

And he knows. Every moment, he's like,
"Are you fucked up? What's your problem?"

If I am really fucked up,
he is, like, so judgmental.

I wish he could do drugs, so he could
understand what it's like to be judged.

Now I'm, like, very tired.

- Yeah, you wanna sleep. Yeah.
- Yeah.

- Hold on.
- All right, good night.

[Chelsea] All right, anyway,
see you first thing in the morning.

[Heather] Okay, 'night.

[alarm ringing]

- [Heather] Good morning.
- [Chelsea] Good morning.

- How are you feeling?
- Tired.

- Yeah. Did you sleep well, after...
- No, I slept like shit.

I was on my Duolingo,
playing that until, like, midnight.

And today, I'm tired, my eyes are tired.
I'm not physically... Like, I'm not tired.

- I'm just mentally tired, right.
- But you're mentally... Yeah.

Between the Adderall and then the Ambien,
I woke up...

- I'm like, ugh, I'm annoyed.
- Yeah.

So, it's like sleeping pills...
That was bad. I don't like Ambien.

It was interesting
when you took the Ambien,

what it did was really make you
uninhibited and open you up.

So, when we did, for example,
like, draw-a-person...

Oh, did we do the drawing test last night?

- Oh, you don't remember that?
- No, I don't remember that.

Oh, that's interesting.

You got really into it.
You drew your family.

- You don't remember this? Wow.
- I have no recollection of that.

We can maybe just go over it,
and talk about it.

- Yeah, show me, I'd like to see, too.
- So...

- [laughs] Oh, my God.
- Do you remember this?

- What the fuck is that?
- No?

That's my dad, my mom.

- Oh, that arrow was for my dead brother?
- Yeah. [Laughs]

- That's so fucked up.
- Yeah.

- Now it's...
- It's coming back to you, right?

I mean, it's interesting to show
that it has an amnesic effect.

- Yeah.
- You can still pull up the memories,

it's not like they're completely repressed.

But it opens up these emotional centers

that, maybe, you're normally
keeping suppressed.

So, if I took Ambien every single night,
what would happen to my brain?

It really can dull you and numb you,
and then you become dependent on these,

and you can't even function without them.

In the long run, you're better off
learning other techniques

to try to get to sleep,
rather than just popping a pill,

because it loses its effect, as well.

If you start abusing things,
and taking them all the time,

you're always gonna need more and more.

- [Chelsea] Hi.
- [Dr. George] Nice meeting you.

[Chelsea] Oh, wow. This is really a lab.

- [Dr. George] It is for real.
- [Chelsea] Yeah.

[Dr. George] We're there.
We're doing some research here.

So, what are you trying to accomplish here?

Are you trying to come up
with cures for addiction?

- Yeah, well, that's the main goal.
- Did you use drugs?

When I was young,
I had a problem, yeah, for sure.

- Oh, you did? You had a problem?
- Yeah. Yeah.

So you don't like to party anymore?

- No, that's over. Those days are over.
- Oh, okay. Yeah.

- I'm still an addict, though.
- You're an addict?

I smoke cigarettes.
I've been smoking cigarette for 20 years.

That's the easiest one to kick.

I mean, even I kicked it
until a couple nights ago.

It is so not. Oh, that's such a lie.

- No, it is. It is.
- Could you tell me your secret, then?

Well, French people love to smoke.
So do Asian people, by the way.

Take a good look at them.

So, tell me how this works.

So you get cocaine,
and you inject it into the rats.

Now, are you getting good cocaine?

Like, high-end cocaine?
Or are you getting street shit?

We get 99%. You're never gonna get
better cocaine than that.

- Really?
- Yeah. And actually, we don't...

- Where do you get it from?
- Straight from the DEA.

They give you the best,
the highest grade of cocaine?

Yeah, you wanna have pure,
that's what you're doing.

But that's taking away cocaine from

all the other people in the world
that wanna use it...

- I think we should give even more to rats.
- ...to give to rats.

- Actually, we don't give them to rats...
- That's pretty fucked up.

- ...the rats take it themselves.
- Oh, wow. Okay.

We have a little button that they push
and then they get the drug.

If they don't want it,
they don't have to push the lever.

- But they always want it. Mmm-hmm.
- Exactly.

- What's the most addictive drugs?
- I would say nicotine and heroin.

When you look at the stats in human,
and when you look at the data in the rats,

it's the same thing.

- Do you ever test alcohol on rats?
- Yes.

Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
they are allowed to party for 24 hour.

- Really? That's a great schedule.
- Yes, that's what we do.

[Dr. George] We're actually doing,
right now, a study on heroin dependence.

- That's the rat brain that we use.
- A rat's brain?

That's a rat brain. So, what we do
is we put an electrode right there,

in the middle of the brain,
and when we activate that electrode,

- the rat stops seeking heroin.
- Okay.

Rats that have been
highly dependent on heroin...

- Immediately, they stop seeking heroin?
- Immediately.

And so, when is this gonna
come out onto the market?

Well, it has to be published first.

- Yeah, right.
- Okay?

Yeah, medicine's a real kick in the pants.

And then it takes about five to ten years.

What happens when you do
damage to your brain...

'Cause I've partied a lot, you know?
Obviously, you can tell by my face.

But when you have done a lot of damage
to your brain, is it reversible?

Most of the damage,
I would believe, are reversible.

Even if you lost some neurons,
other can compensate for that.

So, do you think there are people
that can abuse drugs that aren't addicts?

- I'm just asking for a friend.
- Yeah. Oh, for sure.

In theory, you can take it
as long as it's spaced out in time.

So, if you're gonna do Molly,
what's the optimal time to space it out?

No more than once. And then you stop it.

- You do one time, ever in your life?
- And then you stop it.

Okay. As long as I can drink, I'm fine.
That's all I really need.

Depends on how much you drink, though.

Well, yeah, but I'm fine.
I'm waking up every day,

getting my shit together,
you know what I mean?

Well, I've heard many people
say that, though.

Yeah, well, maybe if it goes...

Because that's usually what you say until
you get to the point where it's too late.

- And then I'm dead.
- Exactly.

That's what happened to my brother-in-law.

Yeah, but I don't drink
an excessive amount.

- Last night, I had...
- That's exactly what he was saying.

- Yeah, but I'm not... I don't. I drink.
- That's the key.

I mean, sometimes I do.
When it's a holiday.

It's very difficult to know
when it's too much.

- Yeah, that's true.
- You know how many people die

- of addiction in the U.S.?
- How many?

The Civil War, World War I,
World War II combined.

500,000 a year.

- 500,000 people a year die...
- 500,000 a year.

[Chelsea] Do you think you're gonna
remember this tomorrow?

- [Fortune agreeing]
- You remember with pot, right?

- Yeah, you remember everything with pot.
- [Chelsea] Yeah.

I mean, I've never done weed
to this extent,

so I can't base this
on a previous experience.

But you've been drunk,
and not remember what you did.

Yeah, I have a couple babies
out there in the world. [Laughs]

- Why're you laughing?
- Who's laughing now?

[all laughing]

I don't feel like
I've ever blocked out anything.

- On anything?
- On alcohol, I have.

Well, on booze, of course,
but no, not on Ecstasy.

- Or pot. I feel like I always remember.
- [Josh laughing]

- I think.
- [all laughing]

- Oh, God.
- [Josh] What's the most scared you've...

Have you ever been scared,
where you've been like,

"I think I just did too much of that."

Has there ever been one of those times
where you scared yourself a little bit?

There have been nights
where I've been like,

"Oh, my God, I can't believe I'm alive,"
but I really, generally, like...

- You know when you're overdoing it.
- [Josh] Yeah.

[Chelsea] For me, I feel
the toughest time in my life

was when I was taking, um,
sleeping pills all the time...

- 'cause I was completely reliant on them.
- Mmm-hmm.

We waitressed together when she...
How old were... I was 20 when I met you?

- Twenty? Okay.
- [Stephanie] Yeah, 19, 20, yeah.

When we were doing all that coke,
did you think we had a problem?

- No. No.
- Did you think we were...

- You didn't?
- Well, because it was on the weekends,

and it was recreational,
like, "I don't care."

- [Josh] Did you think you had a problem?
- [Stephanie] Did you...

Yeah, that's a better question.

[Chelsea] I've never really thought
I've had a drug problem,

but I know other people have thought
I've had a drug problem.

- Did you ever think I had a drug problem?
- [Josh] Yeah.

- You did?
- [Dan] Yeah.

- You did?
- [Dan] Yeah, yeah.

- Really?
- Yeah.

- [Chelsea] When? At work?
- Oh, man, we're getting...

- We're getting down and dirty.
- [Dan] Uh... yeah.

There was a point in time there
where I thought you did.

- [Chelsea] Really?
- Uh-huh.

I was confronted by people
who wanted to talk to me about...

- They wanted to do an intervention?
- [Stephanie] They did.

- [Stephanie] And I was like... [scoffs]
- Oh, my God.

- Oh, my God.
- [Stephanie laughs]

I'm glad that didn't happen.

Can you imagine people having an...

- You walking into that room, like...
- [Chelsea laughing]

- [Josh] "Fuck all of you."
- [Stephanie] "Fuck you."

- "Get out."
- [Josh] Yeah, that would be... [laughs]

"Get out." [laughs]

I've done a lot of drugs,
but I've never been, like...

- [Josh] "I have a problem."
- "I have a problem." No.

Isn't the person with the problem
the last to know?

- [Stephanie] Exactly.
- [all laughing]

[Fortune] It's usually
not the drug addict that's like...

You're not scheduling
your own intervention.

"You guys. Guess what?"

"I don't know if any of you noticed,
I'm fucked up a lot of the time."

[all laughing]

[Chelsea] First of all, how many years
have you been sober?

- I just had my 20-year birthday. Mmm-hmm.
- Twenty years sober.

And how many years have you been married?

- Thirty-seven.
- Okay.

That's what keeps a long marriage together.

[laughing]

Seriously.

If you could arrange
for that kind of setup, and be like,

"Listen, for the first 17 years,
I'm not gonna be completely available,"

then it would probably last a lot longer.

But in all reality, when I got married,
I was normal.

- Okay.
- I wasn't an addict at that point.

Are you blaming Irving for being an addict?

[Shelli laughs] Yes.

[Chelsea] So, you've been to rehab
how many times?

- I've been in rehab five times. Mmm-hmm.
- Five times.

Nobody would ever think that

someone who had to go to rehab
five times would ever succeed.

What was the first time for?

Uh, cocaine.
My using always centered around my weight.

- Mmm-hmm.
- The first year of my marriage,

I found out I was pregnant,
and gained 80 pounds.

- [snorts and laughs]
- I know.

I'm so glad I didn't know you then.

How did you gain 80 pounds?
That's like 18 babies.

Yeah, and right after I had the baby, uh...

started using cocaine
at a much more advanced pace.

But Irving wasn't doing cocaine.

Irving never, ever liked drugs of any sort,

and he really didn't drink.

And it rapidly became
a huge problem in my marriage.

He decided the only way to...
get through to me would be to move out.

And... he did.

I basically said,
"No problem, fine, good-bye,"

- because I was in the cloud.
- Mmm-hmm.

I had no real understanding
of what was going on.

And was able to take care of my kids
to some degree,

but their school...

obviously, could tell that I wasn't...

- Functioning?
- Functioning normally.

So, they knew you had a drug problem?

When I volunteered to drive
on a field trip...

and the, uh, school administrator said,

"I'm sorry, Shelli,
we can't allow you to drive kids."

My life was out of control.

I woke up on the floor
of my sister's living room.

I'd been up for 48 hours.

Uh, the kids were with Irving...

and I had what is called
"a moment of clarity."

And I said, "I wanna go to rehab today."

And that was the biggest
turning point in my life.

That was the moment I realized
that I couldn't do it on my own.

And that life, as I had been leading it,
was not good.

[Richard Nixon] Public enemy number one
in the United States is drug abuse.

It is necessary to wage
a new, all-out offensive.

[Stephen Downing]
Nixon announced the War on Drugs

when I was put in charge
of the narcotic enforcement effort

for the Los Angeles Police Department.

Forty years ago today,
this country started a war.

[police officer] Police! Get on the ground!

[man] Okay, okay. Okay.

We have imprisoned 43 million people
for non-violent drug offenses.

We've fractured communities.
We divided families.

[reporter]
Today, the federal drug control budget's

more than 17 times higher than 1971.

But drug use hasn't gone down,
it's gone up.

[Stephen] Each year, I failed.
I didn't stop the flow of drugs,

I didn't have anything to do
with reducing addiction.

[reporter] The Global
Commission on Drug Policy

claims the War on Drugs has failed.

Many groups call for decriminalizing drugs
and putting more emphasis on treatment.

The answer is, treat drug addiction
as a health problem,

not a criminal justice problem.

In the last 40 years, we spent
$1.3 trillion on this drug war.

We have accomplished nothing.

[indistinct conversations]

[Bob Forrest] This is it.
This is the Nickel, this is 5th Street,

downtown Los Angeles, Skid Row.

- And that's...
- That's the police station.

- [Chelsea] It's like the West Bank wall.
- It's like a third world country.

[Chelsea] So you can just pretty much
just buy drugs anywhere, right?

[Bob] Anywhere you want, right out in
the open like a trade bazaar in Morocco.

[Chelsea] All right,
so tell me about yourself.

You are a reformed heroin addict/junkie.

That's about it. That's what they say.

I always wanted to be a drug addict.
I like Jack Kerouac.

My father was gone.
He killed himself when I was 15.

Did you say you always wanted
to be a drug addict?

Yeah, I just want to be outside the law
and outside society.

I saw this old blues musician
and I knew he knew...

- How to do heroin?
- How to get it.

- Did you shoot it for the first time, or...
- He shot me up.

And he kind of mentored me
in drug addiction.

- I mean, I was a... [chuckles]
- Sounds quite like a great guy.

I'm not saying
there's a right or wrong about this.

- I'm just saying how it is.
- No, I mean, anybody...

If you want to get fucked up, you can find
somebody to help you get fucked up.

'Cause you shoot heroin
and then you feel what?

What does it feel like?

It feels like being in your mother's womb.
It feels safe.

That's why it's so insidious,

because, for $20, you can go
from a chaotic, hopeless, helpless state

into a state of bliss.

- And how long does that bliss last?
- Couple hours.

- And did you OD?
- Many times.

I went all the way,
to the point when I got down here,

I didn't care
whether I lived or died every day.

So how many times did you go to rehab?

- Twenty-four times.
- Twenty-four times?

Well, most people would say,
"This 24th time isn't gonna be a charm."

It was not.

- Was your...
- The LA County Jail was the charm.

- Oh, really?
- Yeah.

- So you got arrested for what? Stealing?
- Many...

Yes, cars.

- And you had to detox in jail?
- Yes.

- And how was that?
- That was very unpleasant.

You know, you're so trapped
in self-pity and self-delusion...

- right?
- Yeah.

That something has to shatter it.
Reality has to shatter through.

I lived so selfishly at the expense
of everybody who loved me,

uh, that I wanted to turn it around

and, kind of, live with the care
and concern for the well-being of others.

- So now what do you do? What do you have...
- I chase the people like me around.

- Are you a sponsor to a lot people?
- Yeah, but I work with courts...

You seem sponsor-ish.

Yeah, I am, like, good at helping
drug addicts get sober

with a grain of salt and with a more
flexible attitude about it.

[Chelsea] Okay, so how did you get
into pills, because you have a son, right?

- I have a son, yeah. He's now 11.
- Okay. Uh-huh.

Basically, what happened was
I got into a very, very bad relationship.

- Oh, really?
- Yeah, a couple of trips to the hospital.

Black eye, I mean, the whole...

- Oh, my God.
- Yeah.

Yeah, a lot of domestic violence.

And so, being with him,

my drinking began to escalate
because I was self-medicating

and I went to a doctor,
like, a "Dr. Feelgood."

- Oh, okay.
- Yeah.

And he prescribed, uh, Fioricet.

- Fioricet?
- Yeah.

- So you started mixing that with alcohol.
- Yeah.

And what kind of alcohol?
Hard alcohol, wine?

No, I'm a lightweight, I'm...

- Coors Light?
- [laughing] No.

No, white wine.

It would be a really hard thing
to have to give up. For me.

- Yes.
- So, like,

what do you focus on
and how do you replace that?

I don't know yet.

What made you realize you were addicted?

One day, I decided
to just flush all of the pills.

- I was like, "That's it."
- Mmm-hmm.

And within a couple of weeks,
I was suicidal.

I took a handful of pain pills
and muscle relaxants.

Immediately went, "Fuck."

And I called, um, the EMTs.

The last thing I remember
was writing a good-bye letter.

Do you feel like you've ruined your life?

In many ways, yeah. Yeah.

[chuckles, voice breaking]
I'm getting all... Yeah.

I lost my home, I lost my career...

I lost custody of my son.

- Do you get to see your son?
- Once a month for two days.

Yeah, you really have to get
your act together.

- I mean, you have no choice now.
- No, I don't have a choice

because it's progressed
to where it's life or death for me.

[Chelsea] Anytime I felt like
I was abusing something,

I've managed, at some point,

whether it was at that moment
or a month later,

to just extricate it from my life and say,

"This is not something I'm gonna do
for a long period of time."

If you did identify that you had a problem,

you would seek help?

- I don't know.
- You don't know?

I don't know what I would do.
I guess if I had a problem...

- I mean, I have no idea.
- Mmm-hmm.

You know, there are not a lot of mornings
where I wake up and I wish

I hadn't drank that much.
You know, "Oh, God, I wish I hadn't."

I don't put myself
into situations like that.

I'm sure I sound like somebody
completely in denial,

but when I have to work,

I get home at a reasonable hour.
I'm always...

People always make fun of me
at how early I leave when I have to work

and when I don't have to work,
I don't regret having too much fun.

Mmm-hmm. So, when you think
of the obvious alcoholic,

somebody whose drinking

gets in the way of their social
or occupational functioning...

What I'm hearing from you is that
that doesn't happen with you.

But some people talk about
the functional alcoholic, who doesn't...

Yeah, if I was an alcoholic,
I'd be that one.

- Uh-huh. So the...
- Like highly functioning alcoholics.

Okay, the person who gets to work

even though
they're sort of hungover anyway.

- Uh-huh.
- Uh-huh.

Has that ever happened to you?

- Yeah.
- Yeah?

- Totally. I could probably be that.
- Because it feels good?

Because you're medicating
the pain of the world?

- What's it about?
- No, I don't feel like I'm in pain.

I just feel like anything
that's not your regular state of being

- is mind-expanding, I think.
- Mmm-hmm.

I mean, going to a different part
of the world that you've never been in

is the same kind of feeling, I think.

That's why I want to do Ayahuasca
because it would be great

- to have a super spiritual experience.
- Mmm-hmm.

Though also people, like,
you know, shit their pants and vomit

and if I have to do that on camera,
it's, like, great.

- But I will.
- Some people see it as a religion.

Yeah, well, good for them.

- Is that too excessive for you?
- Yeah, I'm not really religious.

- Okay.
- You know, religious.

[Jon] I'm working on a very deep level.

I'll get into an altered state
without ingesting anything.

So here we go.

- [rattling]
- [blowing into bottle]

[blows]

To the winds of the south.

[speaking other language]

Great serpent, come to us, Mother.

Hold us in this healing space.
Right here, right now.

- [shakes rattle]
- [Jon clears throat]

- Okay, what are you noticing?
- [woman] A lot of spinning.

- It kind of feels headachy right now.
- [Jon] Yeah.

[blows]

[Jon] Okay, how does your body feel?

I'm seeing a lot of trees right now.

[Jon] So that'll clear.
The stone's taking that energy.

[woman and Jon chuckle]

Let's sit on the couch.

- We'll talk a little and see...
- Yeah, why don't you tell me what you do?

We use these ancient techniques
to reach altered states of consciousness.

Okay, and how does one get into shamanry?

Well, basically,
you're born with the gifts.

There's always been one person
in the village,

since the beginning of humanity,
who just has the ability to see things,

to use the tools to help improve
the quality of life of the villagers.

- That's me.
- And where's your... This is your village?

- Uh, yup, Malibu, Los Angeles. [Laughs]
- Okay, great.

But, you know, meditation,
it's not just mindful,

- it's more action, it's more movement.
- Yeah?

It's poetry, dance, music, symbolism.

- Are we gonna... be dancing?
- It's a much more powerful way of...

- No, we don't have to dance.
- Okay, good.

- I'm not a great dancer. Just no rhythm.
- [woman and Jon laughing]

- I'm Jewish, so I just can't do anything.
- Okay.

- Sing, dance, nothing.
- Yeah. Yeah.

- [Chelsea] All right, let's get started.
- [Jon] You ready?

- Do I need to take my clothes off?
- No, no, you're okay.

- Unless you really want to.
- Just checking.

I always like to take my clothes off.

- But I won't.
- Yeah, I know that. [Chuckles]

[Jon] So, what's going on in your life?
What do we want to work on?

Well, a couple of my friends and I
are gonna go do Ayahuasca.

Okay.

- I want to have a really good experience.
- Yeah.

- It can be intense.
- Yeah, yeah.

And it can feel like
it's ripping your guts out.

- Do you vomit every time you do it?
- Not much anymore,

- but when I did more...
- What about diarrhea? Is that a thing?

- That's a thing.
- Yeah.

- Yeah, so, be prepared.
- Yeah.

Like, snakes, I feel,
are gonna come into it

- because I'm very fearful of snakes.
- Yeah.

When you do Ayahuasca,
it opens up every channel in your brain

- that you may not want open.
- Open.

So it takes a kind of discipline

to direct it from this horrible path
to back over here.

- So you want to go in with a plan.
- Okay.

Now what we're gonna do is something

that's kind of like
a mental boot camp, right?

- Okay.
- So you feel safe when you're vulnerable.

So lay down. This'll be under your knees.

Okay.

[Jon] Sometimes, as the energy is leaving,
it can trigger the altered state

like you get on a hallucinogen
or any other kind of, you know...

Okay.

[Jon inhales and exhales deeply]

We'll just see what's... I don't wanna...

- All right.
- ...get too far ahead of myself,

but we'll see what's going on there.

[inhales deeply]

[Chelsea] What's this one?

This is the root chakra,
the connection to The Earth.

You don't have to do anything
to make that happen.

- Okay, good.
- Yeah. And...

- I wouldn't know what to do.
- I'm gonna sit behind you here.

[rattling]

[Jon inhales deeply]

[blows]

[Chelsea] What is that fire water
you're spitting out?

- Cleansing plants like Sage and cedar...
- Okay.

...and frankincense and myrrh...

and Bacardi 151 to keep it sterile.
Strong alcohol.

- Oh, that's fun.
- Yeah.

Are you noticing, if anything, Chelsea,
in your body or...

What are you noticing?

Well, a significant amount of energy
was stored here

because of a loss in the past life

or you lost your connection to home.

So we're clearing that, so that you're
always home no matter where you are.

Okay.

[Chelsea] I mean, I don't really
necessarily disbelieve in this stuff,

but it's just never been for me.

I'd like to be spiritual.
I mean, I don't...

You know, I don't know
about being this spiritual.

I mean, this is a little bit...
It takes up a lot of time.

But I want to be the best version
of myself that I can be.

I think you have to live in Topanga Canyon
for a long period of time

to get high off of meditating.

[Chelsea] There's a whole school
of people who say

every time they're praying deeply...

Like the Dalai Lama talks...

They talk about him
hallucinating to the point...

They meditate to the point of getting high.

[chuckling] It's like the same...
Why are you looking at me like that?

Am I not making any sense right now?

- You're making sense, yeah.
- [Dan] I follow.

[Chelsea] It's like the same high
as a heroin junkie could have.

But I don't meditate.
That's why I have to do so many drugs.

[all laughing]

- How many joints have we had?
- Maybe three, four.

- [Chelsea laughing]
- Each?

Wow. I don't think I've finished
a whole joint before

and I've just had four.

- [laughing]
- All right, well...

- Let go, let God.
- [all laughing]

Oh, good, more food.

A panic attack and a bowl for me
in about 45 minutes.

[laughing]

I'm doing this for my family!

I think we should ask them for regular food

because I want to keep eating.

- I know! I'm so hungry.
- I mean, I could eat all night long.

[all laughing]

Hand me those tortillas
and we'll make a wrap.

- [all laughing]
- Anybody want a wrap for lunch?

Hand me those tortillas.

I'll make you a wrap, some Turkey.

[all continue laughing]

A little sun-dried tomato.

[splutters]

Anyway, this pot is very low in dosage.

- Are you higher than you usually are?
- Yeah.

[chuckles]

Good luck in Peru. [Laughs]

You're going together?

Are you ever nervous about doing Ayahuasca?

- [Fortune] You got to be a little nervous.
- No.

[Josh] You said you had wanted
to do it before, right?

Yeah, we were signed up to do it,

- and then, uh, Brooke got pregnant, so...
- [Chelsea] Oh, really?

I have a feeling it's not gonna
even affect me at all.

Like, some people say
they never felt anything.

[Josh] How fast till it works?

- [Fortune] Till you shit your pants.
- That's how you can tell?

They say, after... I don't know... Fast.

You'll shit your pants and you'll vomit
'cause you're weak.

[Josh laughing]

You better start working out. Kettlebells.
[chuckles]

It'll probably go through me pretty quick.

I will... I'll probably vomit.
I don't see myself shitting my pants.

I mean, if that happens, it happens.

My friend just got back from Peru,
doing Ayahuasca.

And she said it was
the most amazing experience of her life.

And ironically, she was a big stoner
and hasn't touched it since she got back.

That's what they say.
It helps with addiction.

- Like, no joke.
- Yeah.

And she's happier than I've ever seen her.

- Are you gonna take it seriously?
- [Chelsea] Yes, I'm...

- Like it's a spiritual journey?
- [Chelsea] Yeah, of course.

That's not my motivation.

My motivation is just to experience it,
you know.

What if you come back
and what happens to you

is what happens to other people
where you're, like,

"Oh, I don't wanna do
any other drugs anymore"?

That'd be great.
I shouldn't probably do drugs anymore.

I mean, I am 40.

Just say no, hmm? [Chuckles]

[all laughing]

[man 1] Ayahuasca
is an Amazonian psychedelic brew

which literally translates as
"vine of the soul."

It is made up of two different plants.

[woman] Dimethyltryptamine,
better known as DMT, is a hallucinogenic

that's traditionally used
during shamanic rituals in the Amazon.

[man 2] It has
extraordinary healing powers.

And this is the most potent psychedelic
that is known.

[man 2] Many millions of people
around the world are drinking Ayahuasca

because they have mental,
emotional or physical disorders

that have not responded to anything else.

[Chelsea] Have you guys been to Peru?

- [Dan] I've never been.
- [Jenny] I've never been to Peru.

- [Chelsea] Do you have snake anti-venom?
- [Dr. Martinez] Yes.

- Let me tell you something, okay?
- All right.

I will be on your fucking back
when there is any chance of...

I'm not... There's not...

I'm not gonna get bitten by a snake
because I can't even...

I don't even want to see a snake.

- [Chelsea] Have you done Ayahuasca?
- [Dr. Martinez] No.

- What are you waiting for?
- Um...

[Dan] Mmm.

- But it's more of a medicine than a drug.
- [Dr. Martinez] Yes.

Actually I heard that in the past, the
shaman was, was suppose to take there...

[Jenny] But he doesn't take it now?

Now, he just, kind of, like,
smokes a cig and watches you?

All depends on the shaman.

That will be pretty great, if he had
a Capri and, like, a glass of wine.

[laughs]

Thank you.

Hola!

- Hi, how are you?
- Thank you.

[indistinct chatter in Spanish]

[Jenny] Are you nervous at all?

[Dan] No, you don't get nervous
with stuff like this.

You really don't... Right?

[Chelsea] I'm not really nervous.

I've understood that I'm gonna throw up,
and I'm gonna vomit, and that's all right.

- It's part of the thing.
- [Jenny] Yeah.

It's not a reflection of
me as a person. [Chuckles]

[all laughing]

Even though it totally is.

- You guys are very nervous, though.
- I think my fear is...

And you're fucking making me nervous.

- [Jenny] Are we making you more nervous?
- No, you're not.

- My fears, right now, are superficial.
- Mmm-hmm.

I think it's funny
that this guy in the forest

is gonna give us a shot of something
that promises transcendence and awareness.

That seems too good to be true.

I'd love to be able to conquer, sort of,
my fears about being a parent and...

feeling adequate, just as a human.

I mean, that would be nice.

If I could request anything,

it would be able to look at everything
in my life without being in it.

As aware as I can become is good, you know?

Sometimes, you're just so in your own life

that you don't get to look at yourself
beyond... outside of yourself.

And that, to me, is always compelling,

to be able to see your life
and the people around you

without being so immersed in it.

I would love for it to be life-changing.

That would be great.

Can he take us through
what we're gonna be doing tomorrow?

[speaking Spanish]

[speaking Spanish]

[Celine] Around 7:00, 8:00,
we can start the ceremony.

We'll all go to the Maloca.

Maloca is the special hut that they make
for Ayahuasca ceremonies.

Does he do it with us tomorrow?

Uh, yes, the shamans usually drink
with everyone else.

[Maximo speaking Spanish]

Tomorrow, the day we do the ceremony,
please eat very little food.

Can we have a drink tonight?
Can you ask him?

[Maximo speaking Spanish]

He says you can have a drink tonight,
but not tomorrow.

- That changes my whole night.
- I've gone, like, two weeks.

[all laughing]

- I haven't had a beer in two weeks.
- Tell him it's fucking hot here.

- Muy caliente.
- [Maximo speaking Spanish]

He is encouraging you
to, uh, be very aware of your own body

as well as the bodies of the people
you're taking Ayahuasca with.

But no sex, right?

- [Celine and Maximo converse in Spanish]
- [Chelsea giggles]

No sex.

Even in the tushie?

- [chuckles] Do you want me to ask him?
- [Chelsea] Sure.

[speaking Spanish]

[all laughing]

[speaks Spanish]

- No. No, señorita.
- [all chuckling]

So, can you tell us what do you do
if we're having a bad experience

or we're having
very dark kind of hallucinations,

what he does?

[speaking Spanish]

So, he'll actually approach you,

and he's got a little, uh, implement
that he'll put on your head

to bring down the visions.

[Maximo speaking Spanish]

So, you shouldn't
go into a ceremony in fear.

You should go in with, uh, concentration
and think of your desires as well.

- Okay.
- Yeah.

[Celine speaking Spanish]

[Maximo speaking Spanish]

[Chelsea whimpers]

Uh, so Don Maximo
is asking if you guys are ready.

[Chelsea speaking Spanish]

[blowing]

[speaking Spanish]

[Maximo speaking Spanish]

[blows]

[exhales]

[Maximo exhales rapidly]

Salud, señores.

- [Jenny] Salud.
- [Chelsea] Salud.

L'Chaim.

[Maximo exhaling rapidly]

[rustling]

[Maximo chanting in foreign language]

You feel high?

- What do you...
- [Dan] Yeah, I'm flying.

What do you feel like?

[Maximo continues chanting]

- Like I'm in outer space.
- [chuckles]

- [Jenny] Really?
- Well, we are.

[Maximo continues chanting]

- [Jenny] Ugh, I'm fucked up.
- [Chelsea] I don't know,

'cause I was feeling buzzing
and then it just went out the window.

[Jenny] I'm fucked up now.

Ugh, I'm sweaty.

Oh, my God. [Chuckles]

[Jenny] Oh, the room's dizzy. I'm so dizzy.

- [Chelsea] Yeah.
- [Jenny] Whoa.

- [Chelsea] You okay?
- Shit. Hold on. [Chuckles]

- [Chelsea] You okay?
- I feel like I had, like, too much.

It's just the initial.
You'll be okay. Just breathe it in.

- And then you'll be all right, Dan.
- [Jenny] Yeah.

[Dan retches]

[retches]

[sighs]

- [Chelsea] Are you okay?
- Yeah, I'm fucked up.

- [Chelsea] You are?
- Yeah. Do you feel fucked up?

- No.
- Really?

- But enjoy yourself.
- I'm jealous. [Chuckles]

- [Chelsea chuckles]
- Oh, I'm envious.

- [chuckles]
- [Dan] Maybe a Cessna.

Maybe a twin engine.

[Maximo continues chanting]

I'm not sure.

[Dan] I have the distinct feeling

that I took twice as much as I should have.

- Why do you think that?
- 'Cause it just doesn't feel good.

Like, I want it to be over. That way.

Oh, I'm sorry.

- It's fine, it's not...
- Are you having bad thoughts?

- Yeah.
- [Chelsea] Oh! [Scoffs]

[Maximo breathes sharply]

[exhales rapidly]

[Chelsea giggles]
Shaman's taking a shadoobie.

- [Dan] This is... [chuckles]
- This is just him getting high.

He's like, "Yeah, now it's hitting me."

- [Maximo exhales rapidly]
- What a charade.

[Chelsea laughing]

[Jenny sobbing] It's just like...

- Yes.
- Thinking about...

[Celine] And that's amazing.
That's good, that's good.

[sighs and chuckles]

- [Chelsea] What if I...
- [Maximo chanting]

[Dan] Are you okay?

[Jenny] It's intense. It's intense.

It's really intense.
[chuckles and sniffles]

[sobbing]

You want to take it off?

...

Yeah.

Thank you.

Here, I'll lie next to you.
I'm gonna lie down with you.

Yeah.

[Jenny sobbing]

[Dan] I was, like, in my childhood,
the backyard of my childhood home,

and then, like, I went in,
and then, like, went into my bedroom.

[Chelsea] Hmm.

[Dan] It was like I saw myself as a kid.

[Jenny] Oh, my God. [Giggles]

[Jenny] I feel like I could
eat dinner now, at this point.

[Chelsea sighs] I need a drink.

[Jenny laughing]

[birds chirping]

[Chelsea] Well...

- I felt nothing. And now...
- And you felt nothing the whole time.

I felt buzzed.
Like, I felt, like, giggly, buzzed.

But, like, it was a very familiar feeling.

Like, I wanted to get up
and start, like, kind of, moving around.

But I was like, that's kind of fucked up
if you guys were in so much pain. [Laughs]

So I'm like... Yeah, just fucking dancing
in a rave by myself.

I kept having the feeling
I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

[chuckles]

I couldn't get off my mat.
I was just so sick to my stomach.

It colored the entire experience
with, like, a kind of a sickly feeling.

[Chelsea] Yeah.

You know, there were rules
like don't eat pork,

don't have sex, don't drink,

and, like, I woke up this morning
wanting to, like, eat a plate of bacon,

and, like, masturbate and have a beer.

I wanted to negate everything
as soon as possible.

If that's gonna make
how I felt go away completely,

I couldn't do it soon enough.

[Jenny] But I think it's interesting
that our experiences,

though different in tone, were similar...

- in a way. It was all...
- Well...

Both of us having early,
early childhood memories.

And also yearning for your families,

and like, "I wanna be with my family,
I wanna be with my family."

[Dan] Yeah, yeah.

It helped so much when you came over
and you were next to me.

Then I was able to just chill out.

I don't think we were supposed to be
interacting with each other.

Yeah, but he left us no choice
because everybody was freaking out.

- And I felt like... I mean...
- [Jenny] Yeah.

[both chuckling]

[Chelsea] So now, I guess,
it will be me and him tonight.

And you guys... I said I wanna do
a different room, though, 'cause...

- Yeah, you're changing it up.
- That room seems feculent to me

- after everybody shat and pissed in it.
- Yeah.

It's better for me to be, like, alone,

so that I can concentrate,
'cause I'm so easily distracted.

But will you concentrate on his chanting?

I think we just need to lock you in a room.

I'm gonna take the same amount,
with less distractions.

We're gonna have half the camera crew
in there, lights down.

I didn't come to this godforsaken country
to not get high on Ayahuasca.

[Maximo whistling]

- [Maximo speaks Spanish]
- [speaking Spanish]

[speaking Spanish]

- It's more than yesterday already.
- He's saying, "Everything."

[Maximo speaking Spanish]

That's the whole dose you have to take.

[exhales heavily]

[chanting in foreign language]

[coughs]

[vomiting]

[coughs]

[coughing]

[child's laughter echoing]

[chuckles]

[sighs and clears throat]

[child's laughter echoing]

- [Maximo continues chanting]
- [laughs]

[chuckles]

[lighter clicking]

Oh, oopsie.

Thank you, I think.

[exhales deeply]

[Chelsea] I wanted to have the experience
that I was reading about.

[Maximo exhaling rapidly]

And I did.

I thought, "Okay, where do I
want this to take place?"

And I wanted it to take place
in my childhood summerhouse

in Martha's Vineyard on the bay.

Then it was almost like a phantasmagoria
of different happy times on the bay

with my sister, sailing or kayaking,
and we would capsize.

And then I realized,
"Oh, you're so harsh on your sister."

I'm a bully to her.

"She has to be stronger."

And why doesn't she want to travel
and leave the country?

"Why did she want to stay in New Jersey?
Why doesn't she want to move?"

And then I was like,
"Stop it. She's not like you."

That's me. That's all my stuff.

I have to be nicer to my sister.

Like, I have to be more accepting
of the fact that we're just different.

She could be gone any minute,
so don't judge so much.

It's been a long time
since I've had that kind of feeling,

where it's a new feeling.

It was right. It was exactly right.

Now that I'm 40, I have
so many great, beautiful memories.

I've definitely grown up this year.

I'm more mature than I think
I've ever been in my life.

I understand that there are people
who have addiction issues,

and I'm sure there are many people
in my life who think I have a problem.

But the only opinion I'm concerned
about is really my own.

I'm really happy,
and I love everything I get to do.

Why would I take any of that
away from myself? [Chuckles]

[Josh] You've never been in your room,
high, talking to yourself,

and then started laughing

because you were just, flat-out,
fucking talking to yourself?

No, I've talked to myself
and started laughing

because I was like,
"God, I'm really funny."

[all laughing]

[Chelsea] It's just so weird to me
that rats test things for humans.

Would you ever consider testing it
on different animals?

- What about fish? I mean...
- Some people do fish.

- Some people do flies, too.
- Snakes? What about snakes?

- What about snakes? They're not...
- Yeah.

That'd be such a good thing to do
to snakes,

after everything they've done.

Would you take a drug
that was tested on a fish?

- Okay, that's evasive.
- [laughs]

So, I would take a little vial of cocaine,
and I'd just go...

It tasted awful.

People put it in their assholes.

People put cocaine
in their assholes to get high.

- Did you know about that?
- No, I didn't know that.

Well, you're lucky you quit
before that came on the scene.

I was dating this drug dealer
when I was, like, in high school.

He was going to sell or something,
and we were in a car.

We got pulled over by the police.

I got so scared, and I said to the officer,

"Are we allowed to tell on somebody else
if they have the heroin?" [laughs]

- You're all like, "Not it."
- [all laughing]

And I go, "It was him."
And I told on my boyfriend. I did.

Right foot, red.

No, red. [Laughs]

Yeah, I think that's pretty good.
I think you're doing okay.

It's not the best I've seen.

- What's the best you've seen?
- It could be better.

'Cause you're gonna have Indica, Sativa.

You're gonna have
all different variety, right?

Will you help me test it?

- I would love to help you test it.
- Yeah.

I can have a whole focus group
at my house at all times.

There you go, there you go.

[speaks gibberish]

[all laughing]

Tonight was a bust.

Nothing happened.

Oh!