Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 39 - Jeremiah & Linda - full transcript

Jeremiah will need divine intervention to find his spiritual love, Linda. He had hoped they were heading for holy matrimony but after Nev and Kamie dig a little deeper, he feels that his relationship might be heading for disaster.

- ♪ MTV ♪
- My name is Jeremiah.
I've been talking to Linda.
Her charm was spellbinding.
- Ooh. - I think that she's a gift.
I do.
- Now, when you search Cash App, username is FakeHeer.
- FakeHeer?
- You probably should stop trying to reach out to her.
- What the [bleep]? - You want to be shady?
- I'm down.
- We can look up the house that she's at.
- What?
- What the hell? - Oh, [bleep].
♪ ♪
♪ What I need ♪
♪ Is for you to come closer to me ♪
♪ Yeah I'm dying ♪
- See what the old sidekick is up to.
♪ Yeah I'm dying in your subtly ♪
♪ Yes I want to know ♪
♪ Am I yours or just somebody to hold ♪
♪ Can you give me some ♪
- Oh, there she is. - Hey!
- What does your shirt say?
- "Stay-at-home dog mom."
I have to let people know
that this is really just my side gig.
My full-time job is taking care of Big.
- He's a lucky guy. All right. Anyway, you ready for this?
We got an e-mail here.
Subject is, "Listen, Linda, listen."
That's funny. All right. Well, here we go.
"My name is Jeremiah. I am 30, a single dad
and a graphic designer from Dayton, Ohio.
I've been talking to"...
- Linda. - "For almost 4 months."
♪ Can't take another night ♪
♪ On my own ♪
- "She's 30 and lives in Orlando, Florida."
What is it with Florida?
"She messaged me on a dating app."
- ♪ Can't take another swipe on my phone ♪
- "We immediately hit it off. Her beauty was immaculate,
and her charm was spellbinding."
- Ooh.
♪ We could rise up ♪
♪ Rise up ♪
- "After some messages, we exchanged numbers,
and everything seemed to be going well.
Linda is Polish, and her English is decent.
She's thoughtful, cares about me and my kid,
and we really bonded about
our faith and spirituality."
- ♪ Spend the rest of my life ♪
♪ With you ♪
- "I was planning to go visit her in Orlando next month,
but something's off, and I'm starting to have concerns.
Linda doesn't know how to Facetime,
claiming she isn't tech savvy.
When I call her on the phone, she picks up, but it's brief,
and she says she can't hear me and gets off the phone,
leaving me to wonder if she's hiding something."
- ♪ Rise up ♪
- "I need your help before I go all the way to Florida
only to be disappointed by a woman
I really care about."
- ♪ Spend the rest of my life ♪
♪ With you ♪
- "Can you please help? Jeremiah."
All right. Let me text him.
Just read your e-mail and want to help.
Jump in our Zoom.
- I mean, no Facetime, short phone calls.
One side of my brain is like...
It's a catfish. But then the other part of me is like,
"Since she's Polish, maybe she doesn't
feel comfortable getting on the phone."
I know being first-generation American on my mom's side that,
like, there are a lot of people who have accents, who come
from different countries, who are really, you know...
- Self-conscious. - Self-conscious...
- Right. - About that.
- That's what I was thinking. - Right.
- Maybe she's just self-conscious and insecure
about the fact that she can't speak English.
- Right. Right. - Hey.
- Hello.
- Jeremiah. - What's up, guys?
- What's up? Where are you? You're in Dayton?
- Yeah, man. Dayton, Ohio.
- Dating in Dayton. - Yeah.
- How old is your kid? - One and a half. He's talking.
He's amazing.
- Eighteen months is the peak of cuteness.
- That's what it is?
- This is the best they're going to be, and then...
- It's downhill? - And so what happened?
So were you with his mom for a long time?
- So we were together for 4 years,
and then she started to come to church with me,
and I think my church kind of, like, drove her away,
and then as soon as we got pregnant,
they were like, "You guys need to get married."
It kind of put a wedge between me and my parents too
because my dad is a minister. A few months ago,
she came to me, and she just was like,
"I don't think that you're the right person for me."
- You can't really argue with that.
You just respect them.
We've been extremely cordial and nice to each other
through all of this stuff, but it's been hard.
- Yeah. Of course. Well, I'm glad to hear
that at least you guys have a good relationship
and that you're, I guess, coparenting.
- Yeah. - Why don't you kind of walk us
back to how you met Linda?
- Okay. I downloaded Wink.
I just wanted to try a different dating app,
and instantly matched with her. She said hi to me.
I thought that she was beautiful.
- Was Linda the first person that you matched with,
or did you match with anyone else that you talked to?
- No. I matched with several other girls,
but Linda just had the look with the dark hair,
beautiful eyes. She looks exquisite.
- I love your adjectives that you use to describe Linda.
They're so cute.
- Honestly, we understand. She's beautiful.
But what else hooked you so much on Linda?
- Linda is very spiritual. She cares about God.
That's something that we connected on.
She doesn't seem like a person who is opposed
to my traditions,
so I thought that that was cool.
- Yeah. You guys talk about faith a lot?
- Yes. That has been a primary thing
because it's not something that is widely talked about today.
It's kind of like politics. It's something taboo.
It's, like, it's easily offensive to people.
This is the only person that I felt hit the boxes
that I was looking at.
I think when you get a little older, like attracts like.
I think that you do need that in a relationship.
For me, it's like... Sorry, guys.
I guess I'm just kind of, like, in a different place,
so I'm trying to just really just get back out there.
I really want to just move forward
with something different,
and I just really want to know her.
I want to build my life forward.
- You messaged back and forth, so what happened next?
- She gave me her phone number.
She actually talked to me on the phone. It wasn't long.
It was more of like, "Hey," and then quiet, quiet, quiet.
"How are you today?" "I'm good," da-da-da-da-da,
and she's like, "I can't hear you,"
and da-da-da-da-da, "Bye."
And then she gets off the phone.
- So it was brief? - Yeah. It wasn't very long.
Now, the second phone call
I had with her was a little bit longer.
She was like, "Hi. How are you? How's your son?"
She actually acknowledges my kid.
Typically, if you tell a girl that you have a kid,
they feel like they're competing with your kid,
so for her to just treat me like that,
it just really took an edge off.
She just, like, really made me feel like
I could induct her into a larger family.
- Wow. - I feel like she could be
my ideal person,
that we can have a masterful relationship.
- Are you looking at Linda
as if she's some sort of gift from God?
- That's what I would say, yeah.
I think that she's a gift.
I do.
- So I'm assuming she's sent you photos
that are not just on Wink?
- She has sent me photos that are not on Wink.
She sent me three.
- Oh, she did? Okay. So she has sent you a few photos.
Does she have any social media?
Did you guys follow each other on Instagram?
- Now, see, that's the kicker. - Oh.
- She does not have an Instagram.
She does not have a Facebook,
so I thought that that was weird.
She didn't have a Snapchat,
and then one day, she added me.
- So now she has Snapchat?
But she's not willing to Facetime?
- She just hits me with, "I'm not tech savvy,"
or she'll try and throw an attitude, like,
"Why are you asking me this?" like I've done something wrong.
- Okay. - Her having an attitude
when you ask about it is a little suspicious?
- Mm-hmm.
- She was born in Poland, right? Is that...
- Yeah. I think she moved here
when she was, like, younger,
so she was like, 7 or 8 or something.
- Oh. So she's been here a while.
- Yeah.
She told me that she lost both of her parents in a car wreck.
- Whoa. - But I don't know
what age she was. She didn't specify.
- Wow. Okay. Does she have a job?
- She's a hairstylist.
- Do you know her whole name? - I know Linda Rose.
Her middle name is Rose.
- Okay. Do you know how to share your phone screen?
- Yeah. I can definitely do that.
- I want to see this immaculate gift from God.
- Yes.
- Oh, cute. - So there she is.
She's very cute. So okay.
Yeah. I mean, she's definitely very attractive.
- I reverse image searched her pictures and nothing popped up.
- Hmm. All right. So that's good.
- So I thought, like, maybe this is, like, a real person.
It gave me hope. I'm just asking
if you guys can, like, Scooby-Doo this [bleep],
rip the mask off her and, "Ya!"
You know what I mean? We can see what's going on.
I really just want to move forward with her.
- All right. So send us everything
you got in an e-mail, and we'll see what we can find.
- Oh, I appreciate you guys, like, really,
for hearing my story
because you didn't have to, so...
- Oh. - I really want to thank you.
- Nobody ever says that. - We'll be in touch
as soon as we have an update.
- All right, Jeremiah.
It's smells fishy.
- It's very hard for me at this point to accept,
"I don't know how to Facetime.
I can talk on the phone because I can't hear you."
- It's a lot. It's a lot.
Sometimes when you think something is too good
to be true, it probably is.
- Ready, king? - Yeah.
- What's that, your new investigation water?
Seems like a good way to poke yourself in the face?
- No because I'm careful.
- Duh.
- All right. So let's go over this case, okay?
Jeremiah just recently got out of a long-term relationship
with a woman who he had a child with.
They parted ways because they didn't really see eye
to eye on his faith,
and then really soon afterwards,
Jeremiah gets into a new online relationship,
but in terms of Linda,
he's been talking to this girl now for almost 4 months or so.
They're both 30. She lives in Florida.
He lives in Ohio,
and aside from being beautiful physically,
he really likes her personality.
She seems to share a deep commitment to God.
That obviously means a lot to him.
- He's ready to, like, lock it down,
and he sees that with Linda.
- Right. So let me get my e-mail here.
Jeremiah sent an e-mail. He says, "Thanks for your time.
Here's the information I have on Linda."
Her Snapchat is Lindarose [bleep].
He's got her phone number and the four pictures
that he sent us,
so what do you want to do? You want to run the number,
or do you want to run the pictures?
- Jeremiah said he already ran the photos.
- Right. And he didn't get anything.
Let's do a quick Google search for...
- Lindarose. The name Lindarose with no Polish last name
I feel like is somebody trying to be sneaky.
- Okay. So there's actually a lot of Lindarose.
All right. It doesn't look like there's much
coming back on that. All right.
Let's do the phone search, see what we got.
Here we go.
♪ ♪
- Uh-oh.
- No name, but it looks like it's a text app.
That's never good. I mean, I guess we could
just do a Facebook search for Linda Rose Orlando.
♪ ♪
Okay. Linda Rose, different person.
I can't believe how many Linda Roses there are in Orlando.
- There's too many names. Dead end.
- I don't really think that's her name.
- I feel the same way.
- Oh, you know what else we can search? Cash App.
People now are putting numbers into Cash App.
Let me put her number in and see if anything comes up.
- So where do I go to search?
- Like you're about to send money,
but don't send nothing.
- Now I'm just going to put the number in, right?
- Mm-hmm.
- Get the [bleep] out of here.
- Tevin, username is Fakeheer. - Fakeheer.
- The worst possible name it could be.
- Tevin? Sounds like a dude.
- So let's look her up on Snapchat and
see what we can dig up there. Maybe there's a connection.
- Let's see. Let's see. Linda Rose [bleep], right?
- Oh. That icon looks like
how she's supposed to look. - I don't know.
If I hit add friend, does it just...
- No. She'll know it's you,
and then you blow our cover.
- So let me do it on a new account.
- Smile!
Smile. They're all giving you the same boring-ass options.
Like, what are those? Looking good.
- Let's find Linda Rose [bleep].
All right. So I'll add her.
- Linda Rose aka Tevin aka Fakeheer.
- So now what?
- We wait to be accepted. - All right.
Well, we haven't found a lot. The only thing we found
is when we put Linda's phone number into Cash App,
it came back to an account
with the name Tevin, username Fakeheer.
Doesn't make things feel like
they're going in the right direction.
- Right. Did she add us back yet on Snapchat?
- Oh, my goodness! - What?
- So she must have accepted me,
and now I see that she has a story.
Look. Okay. It's a cat.
- Sweet dreams.
- And now a Sun. Now wait a second...
- That's not Florida! - That ain't [bleep] Orlando.
- No. But does she have her location on on Snapchat?
- Oh. - Ohio!
- What? - Beavercreek, Ohio.
- What? - Oh, [bleep]. Where is that?
What? That's right outside of Dayton.
- Oh! - Wow.
- Even if she's not lying,
the fact that she could potentially be in Ohio
right now and not have told him?
- The bitch is not from Florida. She's from Ohio.
- So I feel like we should get Jeremiah back on
and see what he wants to do.
- Agreed. - All right. Let me text him.
- Oh, my god. This is getting messy.
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Hey. Anything crazy?
- Well, normally it takes us a little bit longer.
We don't usually have results so quick,
so I'll take you sort of through what we did.
- Okay. - We did a phone search.
basically like a text app anyone can sign up
for anywhere, right? It's not good.
- Yeah. That's not good.
- So we got to that point. You've heard of Cash App.
- Yeah. - Well, obviously, like,
a lot of different apps,
if you have someone's phone number, you can plug it in,
and it'll show you if they're on the app.
- Okay. - So check this out.
So when we put in the 305 number, look what came up.
- Tevin?
- Tevin, and then the username is Fakeheer.
- Okay.
- Do you know anyone named Tevin?
- No. I don't know anybody named Tevin,
but I swear I talked to a girl.
Like, I didn't meet no Tevin.
I'm kind of, like, a little nervous now,
like, a lot nervous now.
- But wait. So that was weird, and then we thought, "Okay.
Let's see if we can find her on Snapchat,"
so I made a Snapchat account,
and then I added her on Snapchat...
- Okay. - Which meant
that I could go now and see that she has a story,
and she does. So look. If you look at her story...
- Okay. - She posted
a picture of a cat.
Well, so, look at that. That was today.
- That doesn't look like Florida.
- Right?
I mean, what does it look like where you are?
- It looks like that.
- Well, so that's what we both said, so Kamie said,
"Well, let's see if Linda has her locations
turned on in Snapchat." And so when we went back
to her profile and we clicked on it...
- What the hell? - She's in Beavercreek.
- That's not even far, bro.
That's, like, 30 minutes from here.
Man, dude. Mm, mm, mm.
- If you open your Snapchat right now,
can you see her story, and can you see her location?
- She doesn't show me her location.
- Huh.
- And you can't see her stories?
- No. No stories.
When I click on the story...
Like, I guess she only shares certain content with me.
- Shady.
Even if everything Linda told you is true,
somehow she has you blocked on Snapchat
from seeing that she's in Dayton, Ohio.
- That makes me feel uncomfortable, like, uneasy.
- Yeah.
- I've been lied to, I guess,
from the jump, is what it seems like.
- It's starting to feel like. - Yeah. Mm, mm, mm.
♪ ♪
- It's just a lot to take in. I just thought, like, you know,
like I was going to Florida next month.
I'm going to be meeting this person.
This is going to be exciting and stuff,
and so it's just like...
♪ ♪
- Did you already buy your ticket to Florida?
- Yeah. It's already bought.
- ♪ Darkest hour now You have learned me now ♪
♪ You have ♪
- She even asked the other day, like, "Where do you see us?"
and stuff like that, so I don't know.
That kind of, like, just bothers me.
- You would've spent your money.
You would've gone there.
You would've wasted your time because in reality,
Linda is down the street.
- Yeah.
- Super shady.
♪ ♪
- ♪ All of the birds they fly ♪
- You want to be shady? I have an idea.
- I'm down.
- We can see the house that she's at on the Snapchat map,
and we can see the street. That means we can look up
the house and street and find out who lives there.
- Woo. - Let's see. Map.
[bleep]. Beavercreek, Ohio.
♪ ♪
- That, right? [bleep] Circle. Is that...
- There it is. There it is. Fourth...
It's the fifth driveway. One, two, three, four, five.
♪ ♪
- I see the address right here. All right.
So let's do a search for one [bleep]
seven [bleep].
♪ ♪
- Linda! [gasps]
♪ ♪
- What?
- Oh, my god. It can't be a coincidence
that she's in that house on Snapchat
and the owner of that house's name is Linda.
- I don't know. I'm nervous. - Hold on.
So let's do a Facebook search for Linda Nardoni
in Beavercreek. There is one.
She's a widowed woman living in Beavercreek, Ohio,
named Linda Nardoni. She's a little too old for you,
so there's only one Linda Nardoni living in Beavercreek.
- That could be who you're talking to.
If the age isn't real,
the name isn't real, the location isn't real,
nothing about the life story is real,
what if she's not even religious?
What if all of that has just been, like, made up
[bleep] that she's just been coming up with
to keep you on the string?
- It's like you're falling in love with, like,
a fictional character, you know? But I want to know.
- All right. Look. We're running out of options here.
We can message Linda,
but if it's her, she's not just going to come clean.
- Yeah. - If you're ready,
I think we should just reach out to the woman
on the number you've been texting and confront her
with what we do know and try to get some answers.
- Let's do that, please, guys. - Okay.
I'm going to give her a call.
- Hi. Please leave your message after the tone.
- Hi. My name is Nev, and I make a show called "Catfish."
We're working on an episode right now,
and we're trying to help a young man named Jeremiah,
who I believe is a friend of yours,
so please give me a call back. Thanks so much. Bye.
All right. Let me send a text. "I just left you a voicemail."
Should I add a photo, like our little Zoom.
- Mm-hmm. - Okay. Ready?
Okay. All right. Message is sent,
so now I guess we'll just wait and see if she messages back.
- How are you feeling? - I'm nervous.
I'm really, really nervous.
I'm just trying to handle it with poise.
I appreciate you guys being here with me.
It makes it a lot better because I'd be so, like,
really upset if I went to Florida
and got stood up and stuff like that.
- If I were Linda right now, obviously,
I'd be a little scrambled and probably freaked out.
- Yeah. - I think we should give her
a little time and just plan on syncing back up in the morning.
Hopefully, we'll have heard back from her,
either you or me.
- I appreciate you guys for everything that you've done,
like, all your hard work and stuff.
- Thank you. - All right. Good night, buddy.
- Thank you. - Bye. Good night.
- This is not going to be good, Nev.
The address that Linda is at on Snapchat links
to an address for a Linda
whose Facebook we found who is clearly an older woman.
- Yeah. It's not looking good.
Jeremiah is going to need a miracle.
- Prayers up.
- Let's go, Kamie.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Hey. - What are you wearing?
- I just want to make sure Linda knows
that we're coming for her. We're high visibility.
- I like this jacket, though. This is nice.
- I'm taking it off though because it's too dang hot.
We got work to do.
Hold on. Let me check my phone. Let's see if Linda texted back.
No. Doesn't surprise me,
and I think the only other person
who might have heard from her would be our man Jeremiah.
Let me text him and see what he's up to.
Let me just check the Snapchat, see if she's posted anything.
No.
- Oh. - Hey.
- Hello. - Hey again, guys.
- Have you had any contact with Linda since last night?
- I thought I would hear something
by the end of the night, but I didn't get anything.
- How are you feeling after yesterday?
- My hope is, like, really, like, depleted,
just, like, aired the tire out for me.
I'm just ready to expect whatever jumps out
at this point, but I don't think
it's the person that I was seeing in the pictures.
♪ ♪
- I have a message request on Instagram
from someone named Sean Michael [bleep].
Do you know this guy?
- No. I've never seen him before.
- Can I talk to you about Linda?
- So I think we should say yes. - Who is that?
- Maybe he knows who Linda is, obviously,
and knows that we're onto her
because she must have said something to him like,
"Oh, my god. I don't know what to do,"
and so he reached out to us because she's not responding.
- Or maybe that's another guy that she's been
talking to like Jeremiah, and she confessed to him,
and now he's trying to spill the beans to us.
- Oh, that is a possibility. - All right.
I'm sending back a message that says,
"Hey, yes, we would love to talk to you. Can you Zoom?"
- Okay. Oh, man. - Oh, my god.
- He's writing back. He's writing back.
I got text bubbles. We got bubbles. We got bubbles.
- He said, "Hey, yeah, that would work.
Do you have a member ID to get on Zoom?"
Yeah. So he's got the Zoom ID.
He's seen it, so should be we pop it in?
- What if he's Linda?
- That will be a very interesting conversation.
- Can you hear? - Hi.
- Hey, Sean. - Hey. How you doing?
- What's up, bud?
We were a little surprised, obviously, to get your message,
not sure exactly what your deal is
and how you found us
and how you know Linda, but please explain.
- Yeah, yeah. You know, I'll keep it brief,
so I'm friends with Linda.
My name is Sean. She's kind of been telling me
what's been going on a little bit,
and, you know, I just wanted to reach out to you guys,
just kind of wanted to give some advice,
just saying, you know,
you probably should stop trying to reach out to her.
She's worried she's just going to hurt him,
and she just doesn't want to upset him on this
and, you know, it be public.
I know she does care about him a lot.
I think her biggest thing is,
she just doesn't want to hurt him
in an environment like this.
- So she's a real person? - She is.
- Is she an older woman, like, much older than Jeremiah?
- I can just tell you, we've just been
really good friends for a long time, and...
- Let me be more clear. Are you, like, an IRL friend?
Like you actually interact with her
in the same physical space, or are you on online friend?
- I can just tell you I know Linda more than just that,
more than just social media.
- Sean, you have to answer. - Yes.
- Oh.
- Who is that? - Is that her?
- Fuck was that? - [bleep].
- What the hell is that? - I'm going to message him.
Try that again. So who was that female voice?
Oh, he's seen it. He's seen it. - I think that's Linda.
I think that's Linda, and I think they're together.
They're in cahoots.
♪ ♪
- Come on. Say something, dude.
Say something.
- I think Sean is Linda.
I think Sean has been the one talking to Jeremiah.
That's why he can't say,
"Oh, I know her in more than a social media way."
Yeah. Of course you do because you know her on a deeper level
because she's you.
Should we look him up on Facebook
and see if he lives in Ohio?
- Yeah. Let's look him up.
♪ ♪
- The second one, Beavercreek.
- Oh, yeah. Beavercreek.
- So it has to be him. - Right.
Either he is Linda or he's roommates with Linda.
- Well, go to friends and search for Linda.
Linda Nardoni!
That's the older lady whose address it is.
- Oh, my god. - Wow.
What the [bleep] is going on?
- I think Sean is Linda.
- Or maybe he's roommates with Linda.
- Well, go to friends and search for Linda.
Linda Nardoni!
That's the older lady whose address it is.
- Oh, my god. - Wow.
What the [bleep] is going on?
- So that guy is somehow connected to the owner
of the house where your Linda posted from.
Let's take a look at this guy.
♪ ♪
- I'm not sure if he's straight or gay, but my instinct is gay.
- Well, maybe that explains his interest in you,
but it doesn't explain
why he's pretending to be a Polish woman.
- Yeah. - Wait. Who's this?
- "Happy, happy birthday
to my best friend/cousin Jessica Nardoni."
Same last name as the Linda we found.
So Jessica is his cousin?
Maybe that was who was in the background.
It sounded like a younger woman.
- Jessica is probably who I heard on the phone
who's faking the Polish accent.
- Maybe Jessica is trying to hold Sean accountable.
She's like, "You have to answer them.
Give them the answers that they're looking for."
He's like, "Oh, I can't. Ah, bye." Log out.
- All right. So should we reach out to Jessica?
- Let's do it. - Hey, Jessica.
This is Nev from "Catfish." I'd love to speak with you
if you have a minute to see if you could help us
with an episode we're filming right now.
- All right. Well, let's message Linda
because the house comes up to her name,
and that's the name of the person you've been talking to.
- Yeah. - All right.
So we've sent messages now to Linda and Jessica.
- I mean, you said
it's a younger voice, but could it be
Linda you've been chatting with this whole time?
- That's a possibility, the old lady.
But I don't think it's her. It's Sean and Jessica.
That's where my heart is. I think it's Sean and Jessica.
- I mean, look, we have to assume
one of those people will respond to us.
We're close.
I mean, we've obviously poked the beehive, and now...
- Everything is swarming. - Hold on. I got a message.
Jessica said, "Hey. Sure, I can help.
How did you get my Facebook, though."
- What does she mean how?
She knows exactly how
because she was on the call.
- That's it. - Hey.
Sean actually contacted me.
Then I found you on his Facebook.
Can you join our Zoom? Oh.
"I actually can't Zoom right now?"
- Why? Because you're with Sean? -Okay.
Well, is there any chance
you could help us get in touch with Linda?
- She knows who Linda is. She knows what's going on.
- Come on. Write back.
- I mean, I can get you in touch with his roommate.
- His...
- What? - His? Huh?
- Uh, is that a typo?
- His? Sean. Sean is Linda. Sean is Linda.
- Oh, my god.
- That would be great. Oh, we got a phone number.
- Wow. - Guys, this is crazy.
This is crazy.
I think we got to just call the number.
I don't want to wait around.
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- Hello. This is Monica. - Hey, Monica.
This is Nev from the MTV show "Catfish."
I got your number from Jessica, and I was wondering
if you just had a minute to join us on a Zoom call.
Can I text you the link?
- Sure. - Great. All right.
I will shoot you a text right now.
- Thank you. Bye. - Okay. Cool.
- She a little too casual.
She know what the [bleep] is going on.
- I Know.
- Maybe it was her that was in the background, not Jessica,
because Sean is Linda, and Monica is Sean's roommate.
- Oh, I'm nervous. God! - Lord have mercy.
- There's evil afoot.
- She knows something is amiss. - Oh.
- Hi. - Hi.
- How are you? - Good. How are you?
- We're doing great. We're trying to figure out
what the hell is going on. Do you know why you're here?
- Yeah. I have an idea. - Okay.
Well, so we're very confused.
The handsome young man over here is Jeremiah,
and for the past few months,
he's been communicating with a woman
he met on a dating app who goes by Linda.
- Mm-hmm. - And we followed some clues,
and it strangely led us to Sean,
who then led us to Jessica,
who then told us to get in touch with you
because she said you're roommate's with Linda.
- I'm roommates with Sean. - Which is what we figured.
- So Sean is... Can you confirm? Is Sean Linda?
- No. Sean is not Linda. - Oh. Okay.
- I'm Linda. - What?
- What? - Get the [bleep] out of here!
♪ ♪
- Can you confirm? Is Sean Linda?
- No. Sean is not Linda.
♪ ♪
- I'm Linda.
♪ ♪
- Get the [bleep] out of here. - Yeah. That's me.
- Why? - Yeah.
- Sean obviously is the one who called us
to give us information. Why did he call us?
- I explained the situation.
I think he kind of just took it upon himself.
I mean, I think maybe he felt like this
is literally the worst way to do it.
He wanted to give his input, which is just leave it alone.
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- Like, why are you using somebody else's pictures?
I don't understand.
- So Linda's profile was made basically because
I was in a relationship, and, you know,
I always had insecurities that he was cheating on me.
One day, I went through his phone,
and I saw that he had,
like, an e-mail through Wink, so I was like, "Okay."
Instead of just confronting him about it,
let me just make this profile and try to catch him on it,
so that's why I made her profile.
- So you were just swiping, looking for him,
but you obviously swiped right on Jeremiah.
- Yes. I saw Jeremiah's profile.
And it said that he had loved God.
I thought that was pretty cool,
so I decided to write a message to him one day
and just said, you know, hi.
- So when you messaged Jeremiah,
were you still in the process
of trying to figure out your ex, or had you broken up?
- We had broken up. I had found him at that point.
- But why not explain this early on?
Why not just say, "That's not me in the pictures.
I made this account because I thought my ex
was cheating on me, and he was. This is me."
- You know, I didn't expect to, like, talk to him
and, like, the conversation keep flowing,
and then we go to, like, you know, texting.
Like, that very rarely ever happens, so at that point,
I just felt like it was too far in.
- Okay. This is a lot.
- He couldn't even talk to you on the phone
because you're trying to fake a Polish accent for 2 seconds
and then hanging up the phone. That's a lot of commitment.
- I know. There was a lot. - Is any of this real?
- There's a lot real.
I'm not a hairstylist, but I am a spiritual person,
and that was, like, the main connection,
the main reason why I reached out to you and messaged you.
- So what doesn't Jeremiah know about you?
- Well, I'm not Polish. I don't live in Florida.
- You live in Ohio. - Yeah.
- Right, and are you 30? - I'm 23.
- I still have a ton of questions,
like why one of the numbers for you links back to a Cash App
for someone named Tevin. - Right.
- Do you know anything about that?
- No, no, but it's a text-free app,
so numbers are, like, randomly assigned.
- So that's not you on Cash App? -No. I don't know a Tevin.
- Uh-huh. - And what happened the story
about your parents? Is that real?
- I was taken away from my parents when I was,
like, about 6, so that's why I said my parents are dead.
- Okay.
- So you're not related to the Nardoni family at all?
- I live with Sean.
Sean is my roommate. - Right.
- Linda owns our building, our condo,
so we live right next door to her.
- Got it. Okay. - Okay.
- That's where I got the name Linda.
- Okay.
- I get the making the profile to try to get the profile
to try to get the boyfriend caught up. Fine. You did that.
- Mm-hmm. - Done.
- Yeah. - But everything else
that has followed is very strange behavior.
- Yeah.
- You continued to engage with and talk to Jeremiah
knowing that he was single, looking for a relationship,
had a son.
Did you badly that you were sort of misleading him?
- I don't feel like I was misleading him.
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I don't think I did anything devious.
♪ ♪
- Did you even know that Jeremiah bought a plane ticket
to come see you in Florida?
- Honestly, no.
- Okay.
- If Jeremiah does allow you to be part of his life,
being so blasé about this situation
is not helpful in trying to build...
- No. I'm not saying that.
- A genuine relationship with him.
- I never felt like I what I was facetious.
- That is facetious.
It's not malicious because you didn't intend to hurt him.
You didn't intend for any of this to happen,
but what ended up following was misleading.
I think it's important to take accountability in that
for Jeremiah's sake so that he can decide
how he wants to move forward with you.
- And what do you want out of this?
I mean, what are your feelings towards Jeremiah?
- You know, he's a great person.
I really enjoy talking to him.
I never could meet someone that I can hold a conversation with,
and, you know, we have that connection.
I can continue seeing each other in each other's lives.
- I don't know. I really need to think.
- Let's take a quick break to check in with Jeremiah
for a minute, if that's okay. - Okay.
- And then we'll bring you back into the room.
- Okay.
- Jeremiah?
- That was crazy. I didn't even see her coming.
- Why don't you just rattle off
all the thoughts that you're thinking?
- I'm not opposed to getting to know her. She's attractive,
and I think that she's actually into having a relationship
with the man upstairs,
but I don't want to forgive somebody and then they think
that they can just run over me or treat me any type of way.
- I was surprised that you got out of a 4-year relationship
and immediately went looking for something serious
and long-term.
Give yourself some time. Date some people.
- I got you. - And I'm not endorsing Monica,
but meet up, get a coffee, start over,
and if there's anything there, great.
And if not, end of story.
- Hit the road, Jack. - Yeah.
- But also keep in mind if you do decide
to keep something going with her,
you know she has a little streak.
She could be a little...
- Crazy! - She makes up profiles,
and she figures out what she wants to know,
and she does what she does.
- But we need to find a way to finish the Linda chapter
of this relationship and start the Monica part of this book,
so let's get Monica back here and do that.
- Okay.
- So we checked in with Jeremiah
just to sort of see how he was feeling about everything
and how he wanted to handle this.
Is there anything left that needs to be said or asked
or revealed before we close the chapter on Linda?
- It's the end of Linda. - All right.
- Are we starting a new chapter right now
of Jeremiah and Monica?
- Well, what are your thoughts?
I mean, do you feel like your trust was broken?
- It feels like I'm getting to know, like,
a completely different person.
I don't hate you. I don't have animosity.
I don't feel the way I thought I was going to feel.
You're not what I expected. You're very pretty.
You're very beautiful, but your heart has to match and stuff.
- I mean, I still want to continue to talk to you,
maybe actually talk to you on the phone.
like, I just feel like I could only...
It could only grow.
I couldn't imagine, like, not talking to you
or not having you to talk about, you know,
my day with or spirituality or just, like,
my struggles that we've been able to bond over.
You know, I don't have that with anyone whatsoever.
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- How do you feel about the situation?
- We could grab ice cream.
I'm not opposed. My guard will be up.
But if you're willing to work past that, I'm cool.
- For whatever reason, you guys have been brought
into each other's lives,
and I think it's worth seeing it through.
- Just see. - All right, guys.
Well, good luck with whatever
it is that you do, and we'll say goodbye.
- Bye. Thank you. - Be careful with her.
- Okay. All right. - Because...
- And I appreciate that.
- Whether it's Monica or someone else,
put yourself out there. You're a great guy,
and good luck. Bye. - Bye.
♪ ♪
- ♪ You are peace, you are love ♪
♪ ♪
♪ You deserve that much ♪
♪ You are peace, you are love ♪
♪ ♪
- Leah meets Poala on Instagram.
- She's beautiful.
She was the first girl that I ever crushed on,
but Poala is very off the map sometimes.
- Something ain't right. - Let's do an image search.
- There's no way she doesn't have an Instagram.
[gasps]
What if Paola pops in here? Ah!
- I don't know what the hell is going on!