Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 37 - Apryl & Daryl - full transcript

- Apryl got a message
from Daryl saying,

"Hey, I drew a picture
from your photos."

- The fact that somebody
would spend so much time

making drawings of me.

- You're his muse.

- He does say that to me
all the time.

- But you've never
heard his voice

or seen him in a video.
- No.

- I want to just start
with a search of his profile.

- [gasps]
- Something is definitely up.

- What the [bleep] is going on?



- I'm really freaking out
over here.

[computer chimes]
Oh, my goodness.

[dramatic musical sting]

[cheesy upbeat music]

♪ ♪

[computer chimes]
- What is happening here?

- I don't know.
I just found this

over in the corner
under that table,

and I thought
could be a good look for me.

- What is it supposed to be?

- It's a chair.
I guess it's supposed

to be for, like,
people with back pain.

It encourages good posture.

I'm kind of into it.
I think I'm gonna try it out.



- You look like
you're riding passenger seat

on Santa's sleigh.

[both laugh]

- Yeah, all right.

While you enjoy
your breakfast bowl,

I'm going to open up
the old mail app.

- Ready.

- Oh, an email from Apryl.
- Hmm.

A-P-R-Y-L.
- The subject--

"Has it been
four years of lies?"

- Probably.
- Yeah.

"Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Apryl.

I am 22 and live in Montreal."

This is technically our first

Canadian episode.
- Oh, my God.

- "I met Daryl,"
D-A-R-Y-L.

Their names end with
the same three letters.

Come on, that's incredible.

- Meant to be.

- "He lives in Ohio

and is an incredibly
talented artist."

- ♪ Don't you want to
know me better? ♪

- I met Daryl four years ago
on Instagram when he sent me

a drawing he'd done
of a selfie I'd posted.

- ♪ Don't you want to
know me better? ♪

♪ I just want to know... ♪

- "We were just friends,
but this past year

"I started to realize
I want more.

"No one has ever approached me
the way he did

or sent me
so many sweet messages."

- ♪ Joyride with you ♪

- "His drawings make me feel
appreciated and beautiful.

"Daryl makes me feel
like a confident woman.

He makes me feel happy."

- ♪ I just want to
know about you ♪

- "I had no reason
to doubt Daryl,

"and our relationship
was growing.

"But in the past few months,

"some strange things
have been happening.

"First, I got a weird DM
from Daryl's sister

"that Daryl told me to ignore.

Then his social media
started to deactivate"...

♪ ♪

"And then reappear."

- ♪ Joyride ♪

- "I asked him
what was going on with that,

"and he said he needed
to disappear for a while

but wouldn't say why."

- He's going to jail.

- "It all makes me nervous.

"I don't have the best luck
with men in general,

and I think of him
as my one shining star."

- ♪ Joyride ♪

- "Thank you, Apryl."

- ♪ Joyride ♪

- I am going to put in
my first guess

and say that Daryl

is in jail.

- He's not in jail, come on.

- Yes, you think
you don't have access

to a pen and a paper
to make drawings in jail?

You do, and you can
also get on Instagram.

There's social media.

- All right,
well, let's text her.

Ah, it's been so long
since I texted

an international number.

"It's Nev from 'Catfish.'
Just read your email.

Jump in our Zoom."

- ♪ Apryl showers
bring May flowers ♪

[computer chimes]
- Oh.

- Hello.

- Hey.
- Hi.

- What's up?
- Look how beautiful.

I love the tattoos.
- Yeah.

- Thank you.

- Are you in school, work?

- Work almost every day.

- What do you do?

- I manage a dépanneur,

so "convenience store"

for any non-French speakers.

- Dépann--dépanneur.

[French accent]
Dépanneur.

[normal voice]
My French is trash.

[laughs]

- So that's cool.
And so we read your email,

but there's not a lot
of information in there.

We want to know
the whole story,

and kind of give us
the details.

- So the first time Daryl

ever made contact with me,

it was through Instagram.

The way he approached me

is not how any guy
usually approaches me.

Like, really sweet
and not so direct.

And he had
taken it upon himself

to draw a selfie
that I had posted.

♪ ♪

So kind of nice,

kind of creepy, a little bit,

because I had no idea
who he was.

- Did he ever explain
how and why he found you?

- No, in the first few years,

honestly, it was just kind of
like a little back-and-forth.

Like, any time that I would
post a picture that he liked,

he would draw it and send it
to me when it was done.

And I was obviously
really appreciative.

But I would say
it was more in the past year

that we kind of got
a bit closer

and started talking more
on a daily basis.

- How many drawings
would you say he did of you

over the course of those
three years?

- Around 10, 15 maybe?

I got to a point--
I just started sending him,

like, my favorite selfies,

and he would
do the drawing for me.

- You're his muse.

- He does say that to me
all the time.

[chuckles]

- He's like Jack,
and you're Rose.

- Draw me like
one of your French girls.

Oh!

- Have you sent him
a nude to draw?

- I've never directly
sent him one,

but I do have an OnlyFans

which he
is subscribed to, so...

- Wow! [laughs]
- Ohh!

Did he draw that?

- He did.

- [gasps]

- Wow. Has he sent
any sexy photos of him?

- No.
- Interesting.

Why haven't you guys
FaceTimed or something?

- I mean, I've asked.

It's kind of just been
brushed off,

and I feel like
if I push too hard,

he can just "disappear."

Like, he has deleted

parts of his social media
in the past,

so it's really
kind of a touchy thing.

- He deactivated
his social media

a bunch of times--
what happened with that?

- A couple weeks ago, actually,

I went to go
search up the page,

the page is just gone.

- Is that profile still down?

- No, it's back.

He usually just tells me

he needed a break
from social media.

- Okay, that could be true.

But have you guys been texting?

- I mean, we text on Instagram.

- But do you have
his phone number?

- I don't.

- Wait, so, for four years,
you've been talking

just through
Instagram and OnlyFans.

- Yeah.

- So you've never
heard his voice

or seen him in a video.
- No.

- Interesting.
- [laughs]

- [laughing]

- Oh, boy.

- Something's definitely up,

'cause, like, in your email,
you mentioned something about,

you got a weird DM from Daryl

telling you to ignore
another message.

What was that all about?

- I had got a DM

from somebody
that I didn't know.

And it was just a Facebook link

in the message,
so when I clicked on it,

it brought me to, like,
some Facebook group.

And I saw in their followers
that Daryl was one of them.

♪ ♪

When I went and confronted
Daryl about it,

he said, "Oh, you know,
that's just my sister.

Ignore the message."

- So did you respond,
and have you had

any communication
with the sister?

- No.
- Weird.

♪ ♪

- Can I see a picture of Daryl?

I'm just so curious now.

- Yeah.
- All right, hold on.

I'm gonna bring him up
on Instagram.

What's his Instagram?
- It's "darylartshow."

- Is that him?
- Yes.

- Cool.

This is him, right?

- Yes.

Fits into my type,
I guess you could say.

- Mm-hmm.

- What's this?

"My dad in the paper."

Wait a second.

So this is his dad.

- Allegedly.

- This--wait, this was
just a few days ago.

- Yeah.
- Huh.

Is this you?
- That is me.

- [gasps] Oh, wow.

- [chuckling]

Oh, boy.

- Is that you also?

- That is not me, actually.
- Okay.

- Do you ever get jealous
when he draws other girls?

- I mean, kind of...
[chuckles] Low-key.

I'm used to being the muse,
you know, so...

- But even his, like,
follower to following count

looks normal.

Like, the page looks very--

If it is a catfish,
it's very convincing.

I don't know what to think.
- Yeah, questions.

- Well, what is it
about this guy?

Because I know you have
other guys fawning after you.

So what is it about Daryl?

- I mean,
it's really different.

There's not anyone
who actually cares

about how I'm doing.

He's just there every time
I need it, you know?

Like, the fact that somebody
would spend so much time

making drawings of me,

someone that
they've never even met.

It's just insane to me.

You know, he always says
if I lived closer,

I would be wifed up
already, so...

- Wow.
- [laughs]

- Right now are you not
looking to meet another guy

because you think that

something will happen
with Daryl?

- I mean, yeah.

That's kind of the dream

if it can be possible,

but kind of need to know

so I can move on

either with him
still in my life

or cutting him out of it.

- Obviously, we don't
have a phone number,

but we have his Instagram.

We have that picture
he posted of his dad.

But send us whatever
information you have.

Let us see
what we can find out.

And hopefully
get one step closer

to finally meeting this guy.

- Hopefully.
- All right.

- All right.
- Talk later, Apryl.

- Thank you.

- Oh, she's sweet.

- What do you think?
Is this guy legit?

- [sighs]
I don't know.

- He could just be

a [bleep]boy artist in Akron

who just has a couple different

sexy ladies around
who he draws pictures of...

- Mm-hmm.
- And they send him sexy pics,

and he's just
not looking to commit.

- That's what I fear, yeah.
- That's kind of

the vibe I'm getting.

If he is legit,

maybe there's a chance
it can work out.

And if he's not,

Apryl needs to know
because I don't want

to see her get
her heart broken.

- Exactly.

Something tells me in my spirit

that Apryl
is not the only one.

- And after four years,

she deserves
to know the truth.

[upbeat music]

[computer chimes]

♪ ♪

- Investigate, investigate,

investigate, investigate.
[laughs]

- All right.
So what do we got?

Apryl has been talking
to Daryl for four years.

Apryl got a message saying,

"Hey, I drew a picture
from one of your photos."

She, of course, was flattered

because it was
this very beautiful drawing.

Now, in the last year,

she's been starting
to really think

that maybe there could be
something more with this guy

The problem is
he's been shady.

He won't give her
his phone number.

- Mm-hmm.
- So they only can communicate

through Instagram
or, I guess, OnlyFans.

- I think he's in jail.

Or he's a player

and he should be in jail.
- [laughs]

- I'm sticking to it
till I'm proven wrong.

- Apryl sent us another email.

"I've sent you
what you asked for on Daryl.

I also included a screengrab
of the DM his sister sent me."

- All right,
so here's his Instagram,

which we've already seen.
- And we know his dad's name.

- To me,
that's the craziest thing.

I feel like
we've never had someone

we're investigating
as a catfish

post a news article
identifying their dad.

- Right.
- So we've already

looked through his Instagram.

But let's take a closer look
at the page.

What's this video?

So that's her.
- Yeah.

- I mean, you wouldn't be able
to take a video

of a drawing like this

if you weren't
physically there.

- Mm-hmm.
- So, if whoever's

running this account
isn't the one drawing it,

like, is he paying someone

to draw them for him?

It feels like
this guy is the artist.

This account
feels pretty legit.

Let's for a moment just assume
this is his artwork.

So that means
that this is his dad,

Danny [bleep].

Let's just do
a Google search for his dad.

This looks like
it's his Facebook page.

Yeah, all right.

Here's the dad.

- I mean,
if Daryl has Facebook,

then I'm sure his dad
is friends with him.

- Right, well, that's--yeah.

both: Daryl [bleep].

- Boom.

So he's got an active Facebook,
which is interesting,

'cause she was
under the impression

that he didn't.
- Mm-hmm.

- He's got pictures on here--
I mean, they're similar

to the ones that he's
posted elsewhere.

But there aren't
any drawings of Apryl.

So his Facebook
sort of presents him

as a bit of a playa.

But this seems like
a Facebook page

that's been up for a while.

It's got a lot of comments.

People engaging with it.

Seems like this is the guy.

- But then that
makes me worried,

because this seems like

he's just not as into Apryl
as she's into him.

- Yeah.
Well, so what should we do?

- I feel like we could
just hit up Daryl.

I don't see why we have

to beat around the bush.
- Right.

- Maybe we don't put
Apryl's name in it

because maybe
there's multiple girls

that he's talking to.

I would hit him with a generic

"Hey, Daryl,
working on an episode

and could use your help."

Everyone wants to write back

when they think that
they're gonna be helpful.

- Let's also send
the same message

to his Facebook just in case.

All right, so now what?
What else can we do?

I don't think there's anything
else we can look at, right?

Wait a second--
there's one more thing,

which is the weird screengrab

of the message
from the "sister,"

Candace, and she sent Apryl
a link to a Facebook group.

All right, hold on.
I'm gonna type in

this Facebook page.

"You're not alone.

"A place where
you can make friends

and share feelings
without being judged."

Candace is the person
who's creating all the posts.

I mean, it seems
just like a nice

sort of help group page.

Here's her Facebook page.

Not a lot on here.
Or we just can't see it.

- Oh, no, you can't trust
a Bitmoji bitch.

- [chuckles]

Let's look up the Instagram
that sent Apryl that link.

Here it is.

So this is the account.

Oh, wait a second.
Someone's drawing.

That's him.

- [gasps]
- So they obviously do

know each other.

- Could it just be that

Daryl's sister
was sending the link

to all of the people
that her brother follows?

- Whoa, ah!
- Oh!

- Daryl wrote us back.

"Hey."

- Oh, my God, I'm nervous.
He's looking.

He's looking right now.

- "You're welcome."
Okay.

- [gasps]
Oh, no!

It's Candace.
- Why is Candace on his page?

- Ooh!

Ah, yes.

- Oh, my God, oh, my God.
Oh, my God, oh, my God.

[computer chimes]
[gasps]

- Hey.
- Hi.

- Hello, hi.

- Welcome.

- So you're
Daryl's sister, right?

- Yeah, that's my brother.

- Got it.
- Right. Question--

why were you
in Daryl's Instagram?

- Because...

I handle his financial side
to his art.

- I see, and he gets booked
a lot through Instagram?

- Yes.
- Got it.

Do you talk to people
on his Instagram account

other than clients?

- No, I'm only there
to handle the financial.

- Hmm.
- Okay.

Where's he at?

- He's at work currently.

- 'Cause, basically,

there's a lovely
young woman, Apryl,

who was excited
at the possibility

of finally meeting him,
but he doesn't

want to talk on the phone
or video-chat.

Now, is that just
typical behavior

because Daryl just doesn't
like doing those things?

- Um, he can be, in a sense,
his own character, so...

- And what about you?
Are you in a relationship?

- No.
- Okay.

- Candace, the only reason

we were aware of you
was because

Apryl mentioned that

you had actually
sent her a message

with a link
to the Facebook page

that I believe you started,

which was like
a support group page?

- No.

- No, you did not
send that message?

- My page--my page got hacked.

- Oh.

- Wait, so--okay.

So did you make
a "You Are Not Alone"

Facebook group?

- Yes.

- But you were not
the one on Instagram

that was sending the link out
to different people?

- I do not recall

sending the link out.

- Okay, interesting.

Look, Candace,

you can understand that to us,

it appears that
you might be the person

talking to Apryl all this time.

- No.
[chuckles]

No, it's not--not me.

- Well--
- Got it.

- I mean, it--
[computer chimes]

- Oh.

♪ ♪

Wait.

- Candace, are you still here?

- Is she coming back or, like--

What--what just happened?

What the [bleep] is going on?

- [laughs]
- Where did she go?

- Oh, she's typing,
she's typing.

She said her Zoom crashed.

- Her phone died.

- She said that she'll
get in touch with Daryl.

- She's not coming back?

- I mean, look,
something is definitely up.

Maybe Candace made
an Instagram account for him.

- [gasps]
- And he doesn't even

necessarily know
that they exist.

- [softly]
That's a possibility.

Maybe Candace finds, like,
the muses and stuff like that

and has him draw these people.

That's why Apryl hasn't
talked to him on the phone

because it's Candace.

- It's got to be her.

And that's not gonna
go over well with Apryl.

- Kamie.

[upbeat music]

There she is.
[computer chimes]

We got an exciting
cliffhanger here.

It feels as though
we've established

that Daryl's a real guy.
- Mm-hmm.

- And he's an artist,
and he's also the guy

in those pictures.
- Right.

- Of course,
then we get the curveball

of the person who responds

to the DM we sent to Daryl

is Daryl's sister Candace.

- I don't know how Apryl
is gonna feel about it, but--

- Let's get Apryl back on Zoom

and see what's going on
with her.

[computer chimes]

- Bonjour!
- Bonjour.

- How are you?

- I'm good.

Excited, nervous, but I'm good.

- Well, we have a little bit
of an update.

- Yeah.
- Okay.

- We've got some
interesting information here.

So let me share my screen,

and we'll kind of
walk you through

everything that we found.

- Okay.
- Okay.

So this is Daryl's Instagram.

We looked through it
more closely,

and we found that
the guy in this picture

is definitely
the guy making the art,

from what we can tell.
- Okay.

- So our first instinct was,

let's find out more
about this guy.

Is this really his dad?

Is there a connection
between them?

What can we discover?

So we just did a search
for Danny [bleep].

And so when we found
Danny's Facebook page,

our first thought was,
let's see

if maybe he's friends
with his son.

So we just searched
the dad's Facebook for Daryl,

and bam.

A page came up.

Now, you had said
you didn't think

Daryl had a Facebook page.
- Yeah.

- Well, this one matches

all of the posts and pictures,
and, so, like, this clearly

is his Facebook page.
- Mm-hmm.

- So that just seemed
a little weird.

Like, well, why wouldn't
you know about this

when this one's
clearly active?

- Yeah, exactly.

- Strange.
- Yeah.

- Does this sound like him?

Do you recognize his language

and his sort of style
in these posts?

- I mean, to be honest,

I'm reading these, and, like,

it's really not
the same type of things

that he would say
in a conversation with me

or that I see him
post on his Instagram.

Like, it's a little more,
I guess, vulgar and intense.

- So I'm not sure
what's going on with that.

At this point,

we figured we might as well

send him a message
on his Facebook,

but we still haven't
heard back.

Then we remembered
that you had mentioned

that weird message you got...

- Yeah.
- From someone who

Daryl later identified to you
as his sister.

- Yeah.
- All right.

And her name was Candace.
- Mm-hmm.

- So we went
to the Instagram page

that sent you that message.

There's a video
of Daryl drawing on it,

so there's a connection,

obviously,
between her and him.

So, if he's real

and if he's not lying
or hiding anything,

then there's no reason
that we shouldn't just

send him a message.
- Yeah.

- So we sent Daryl
a message on Instagram,

and right away
Daryl wrote back.

"Hey."

And then I got this message...

- What?

- Yeah.
- So strange.

- Oh, my God.

- So I was like, "Any chance
you can jump in a Zoom?"

At which point, Candace

comes in the Zoom.
- What?

- So we asked her--
why is she responding

to his DMs?
- Uh-huh.

- And in a very awkward way,
she said,

"Oh, well, I handle

"his financial sort of
business dealings.

"'Cause he gets
requests from people

"to buy art or commission work,

so I handle that for him."

- Hmm, okay.
- Weird.

- Then it came up, I said,

"Well, oh, you know--

"you actually know
Apryl, too, because

you sent her a message."
- Mm-hmm.

- And she said,
"No, I didn't."

And I was like,
"Well, we know you did

because it came
from your Instagram account."

And she said,
"Oh, I got hacked and

locked out of that account."
- That doesn't make any sense.

- None of it made sense.

The weirdest part to me was,

we're in the middle
of talking to her about you,

and all of a sudden,

she disappears
off the Zoom.

She was just gone.

No call back.
She didn't come back in.

But she messaged us.

- She just wrote back,
"I'll talk to Daryl

and get back to you."

So I hate to say it,

but there's
a strong possibility

that Candace is the person
you're talking to.

- Wow, okay.
[laughs]

Um, I was not prepared
for that.

- Maybe Daryl's never been
on the Instagram account.

Maybe she's been the one
who started the account

and has been running
the account the entire time

and he isn't
a social media person.

Maybe he just has Facebook.

- And the language
that he used on his Facebook,

which you hadn't seen...
- Yeah.

- Is a little different
and doesn't sound like Daryl

because that's not
who you're talking to.

[thoughtful music]

- [exhales sharply]

Okay.
- And the fact that

you haven't talked to him
on the phone

and that he hasn't
wanted to video-chat,

well, to me, that means

that there's something
about his voice

or the way he looks

that he doesn't want you
to know.

And so, if you're Candace

and you have
a very, very different voice

than what you'd expect,

that would explain
not getting on the phone.

♪ ♪

- That's so strange to me

because I had no idea
that she was even--

that she even had access
to his account.

So that's why I'm so confused.

♪ ♪

And the question in my mind is,
like, has it been her

that I've been DMing
every single time?

- ♪ The ones we love
are the ones who hurt us ♪

- And I feel like
it's been so long

and I've gone through
so many, like, emotions...

and I'm thinking
of all the messages I've sent

that I thought
I was speaking to him,

and now I don't know

if I was actually speaking
to Candace.

- ♪ Trust no one ♪

- This is freaking me out.

- Are you all right, Apryl?

- I'm just confused.
[chuckles]

♪ ♪

His sister having read
the Instagram from me

is just--

that completely changed
my whole perspective

on everything.
- Right.

- Now, the question
in my mind is, like,

has it been her that I've been
DMing every single time?

- Right.
- Because for you guys,

it's, "Yeah, it's Candace,"
but me, it's supposedly Daryl.

- Yeah.

- So right now I'm--I'm
kind of pissed off, actually.

And I want some explanations.

- Well, going by the evidence
that we've been able to get,

there's a strong possibility

that Candace is the person
you're talking to.

- Wow.
- But, like, at the moment,

we're just sort of stuck
at this weird spot,

because if Candace
is behind Daryl's Instagram,

who knows what her motives
or real feelings are?

- Right.
- Unless Candace is ready

to spill the beans.

I mean, she was very quick and
eager to talk to us yesterday.

So I'm gonna send another
message to Daryl's Instagram.

"Anyone there?"
I'll just say "Anyone there?"

- Me and Daryl, we've said
things to each other like,

"Oh, um, you know,

"if we lived closer,
we would get married.

Like, I would be
with you in a second."

Like, I'm still thinking
that I was having

those conversations
with Candace.

It's just...

[computer pops]
- Oh, I got a DM.

- "Yes," okay.

- Candace for 500, Alex.

They're quick, wow.

Candace, I knew it!

- But why is it always Candace?

This is freaking me out.

- If it's Candace
every time we send a message,

probably Candace
when you send a message.

- Oh, my God.

- Let me guess--
he said he doesn't want

to be a part of the show.

[suspenseful music]

♪ ♪

[clicks tongue]
Of course.

- What did he say?

♪ ♪

- Oh...

♪ ♪

- The suspense is killing me.

♪ ♪

- This is very weird.

- I get that...

♪ ♪

"Apryl is
understandably confused."

- Apryl, if Daryl
doesn't show up today,

are you still willing
to talk to whoever

you're talking to?

- It's been so long,

and I've gone through so many,
like, emotions,

I don't see why,
after everything,

you would just not show up.
- Right.

♪ ♪

You see what she wrote?

- Yeah.

- Oh, God,
what is she writing now?

♪ ♪

- What?
She stopped.

♪ ♪

- [inhales deeply]

♪ ♪

I am sweating.

Gosh.

I'm really freaking out

over here, to be honest.
- Yeah.

- I wasn't expecting a lot
of the things that I found out,

so now my mind has just been
kind of racing ever since.

- If it is Candace,

she has a lot
of explaining to do.

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

- And if Daryl knew about it
the whole time, so does he.

- Oh, yeah.

- There's...
[computer chimes]

No new message--oh.

[suspenseful music]

- Oh, my goodness.

- I am sweating.
- Yeah.

- I'm really freaking
out over here.

[computer chimes]
- Oh.

[suspenseful music]

♪ ♪

- Daryl!

- What up?
- [chuckles]

- What's up, man?

- What's up, man?
- Wow.

- It's real.
- Hi.

- What's up, bro?

- I don't believe it.

- Oh, my gosh.
- What's up, Apryl?

- Wait, so hold on a second.

We're all very confused,

'cause you're obviously you.

- For sure, for sure.
- [laughs]

- But when I DM'd you,
Candace wrote back.

- Ooh, yeah.
- So what's up with that?

Why is Candace in your DMs?

- All right, she handles
certain drawings, like these.

- Handled?
What do you mean handled?

- Like, the prices.

Like, she gives out the prices
for the art and [bleep], so...

That's all she be doing
in there.

- But she's still in there.

- Oh.

Only for the holiday,
'cause I was super busy,

so I had her in there
for November, December

just to handle
these new commissions--

business, art stuff.
- Okay.

- That's it.

She don't read no messages
from me and Apryl or nothing.

That's just me.
Swear to God.

Stay out of that.
It's just between me and her.

- So you told Canace
specifically,

"If it's this girl, Apryl,
do not respond."

- Oh, yeah, for sure.

[keys clacking]

- Obviously,
you can understand, right?

Like, I messaged you,
and she wrote back

and said, "Oh, this is Candace.
I'm on his page."

We thought Apryl
had been talking

to your sister the whole time.

- Oh, no.
Hell, no.

- Well, okay, what's up
with Candace messaging Apryl

on Instagram?

And you told Apryl
to ignore it.

- Oh, yeah,
because her page is hacked.

She told me that--

'cause that page is sending
random messages to people.

I don't know why.

It sent a link
to a Facebook group

that Candace started.

- That page got hacked
or something.

She told me it's hacked,
and she can't--

no access to it or something.

So she made a new Facebook.
- Huh.

So you're telling me

that the only person who Apryl
has ever communicated with

is you, and that's that.
- Oh, yeah, for sure, 100%.

- How do you know

that Candace never responded
to Apryl's messages,

since she responded
to my message?

- I trust her.
She not going in there.

I would've shut all that down
if she even sent one message.

I would've shut
all that [bleep] down.

- All right.
- 'Cause I'm the first one

to see her messages.

I make sure, I'm like, "Oh,
[bleep], she's messaging me?

All right, quick, every time.

It's me.

- Okay,
I'm happy to hear that.

What's then confusing to me

is just that it is you,

and it has been you talking to
Apryl this whole time.

Why so shady? Why don't you
give her your phone number

or video-chat or...?
- Oh, yeah.

- What's up with that?

- I ain't think she wanted
to talk to me like that.

I didn't really know that she

was, like, feeling me at all,
to be honest.

Even if I was just drawing you
or whatever,

I could be just
another creepy-ass dude.

I know you got
a lot of attention.

You bad, so I'm like, I'm gonna
come different a little bit

with the art and see
if she like it or whatever.

- Right, but she did.
She liked it.

You guys have been friends now
for years,

and I think--
at least she feels

that it's been made
pretty clear

that you're more than friends
or could be more than friends.

- I want to.
I want to.

That's why I'm here.

[warm music]

♪ ♪

- So we found that you do have
a Facebook page.

- Yep.
- But you're not friends

with her on that Facebook page.

- Oh, yeah, I'm not.
- Any reason?

- I ain't want to be creepy.
I ain't want to be a stalker.

I don't know.
I don't want to be weird.

- I want to know--

you know, you draw
a lot of girls on your page.

Like, there's a lot
of different people that you--

Why is that?

- 'Cause I'm only focused
on her right now.

- I mean, Apryl is, like,
bursting at the seams.

She's so happy.

And you look like you are, too.

You're both nervous,
by the way,

so just putting it out there.
- Yeah, I'm nervous.

- I'm just in shock right now.
[laughs]

I haven't said a word
in the past five minutes

'cause I'm just in shock.
[giggles]

- What do you like
about Apryl so much?

- Like, she motivate
the [bleep] out of me.

Beautiful [bleep] body.
Like, I'm looking.

It's just like a dream
right now.

- But what
has been keeping you

from seeing her
this entire time?

- Yeah, a lot. I was going
through it for a little bit.

Money problems.

Work was kind of slow
'cause, like, corona.

Just couldn't stack up
quick enough.

I couldn't do
what I wanted to do.

I was getting depressed.

- I think it's fair.

The last years hasn't exactly
been the most ideal

period of time to, you know,
meet up with someone

who lives far away
and in another country.

I get that, but crazy to me
that you wouldn't have said,

like, "Yo, we should talk
on the phone."

- Or just text from your actual
phone number.

Why can't she have
your phone number?

- [chuckles]
I thought about it.

I always think about it,
but like I said,

I didn't think
she was gonna want it.

So I'm like--I didn't ask.
I just didn't.

- Well, look, I obviously would
love to let you guys talk,

but before we do that,
I have some questions.

Daryl, if I could chat
with you.

Kamie, if you could talk
with Apryl for a second.

- Yeah.
- All right.

- Okay.

[computer chimes]
- No boys allowed.

[both laugh]

- Whew.

Oh, my gosh.

[both laughing]

- How do you feel?
What do you think?

- I have no words.

I almost cried when he pulled
up on the screen, like...

I was not expecting that.

- And he's so into you.

- When I met him,
I had no words.

I didn't know what to say

because my brain
just kind of went, mm.

- All I kept seeing
was you being, like...

- Just trying
to make myself breathe,

let the oxygen flow through
to the brain, you know.

I'm just excited for him
to come back in the chat.

[both laughs]
- I know.

You're like, "Get the [bleep]
out of here, Kamie.

I'm trying to spit game."
I get it. it's fine.

- I feel like a little girl.

- Hey.
- Hey, man.

- What's up?
- So this is great.

- Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah. [chuckles]

- It's just, again, and I kind
of mentioned it before,

but after all these years

and talking to her pretty much
every day

and her clearly flirting,

like, you didn't pick up
on enough signals to say, like,

"Okay, I think this girl's
into me."

She described it almost like
you were avoiding her

or pushing her away.

So it just seems
like there's something

you might not be saying.

I just want to make sure
you don't feel

like there's any weird pressure
or expectation

for you to say something
or feel a certain way

and that
you really do like her.

- Yeah, well...

I kind of understand
why she felt like that

'cause I kind of
was pushing her away.

[dramatic music]

- What do you think
that was about?

- [sighs]

♪ ♪

- I kind of
was pushing her away.

- What do you think
that was about?

- [sighs]

[dramatic music]

- At first, I was...

like, shy.

Like, I used to be,
like, super shy.

I used to not be able to look
people in the eye.

I couldn't even make
eye contact,

like, a couple years ago.
- Okay.

- I'm hard on myself,
if you can't tell already.

- Have you had, like,
a serious girlfriend

in the recent past?

- Oh, no.

- No, I've never been
in any relationships.

Never kissed a girl.
- Oh, really?

So you've never been
in love, then, I guess.

- No, not yet.

- Have you tried dating people?
Have people wanted to date you?

Or is it just, like,
not happening?

- I mean, see...

I had chances, but I kind of
avoided all of them.

- Mainly just out of shyness
and insecurity?

- Yeah. I haven't tried
in a long time.

- So hitting on women
or asking a girl out

and making your feelings known

is not something that you have
a lot of experience with.

- Yeah, I have no experience,
beside Apryl.

I really do like her, though.
- Right.

And she told us
she really likes you.

She's super into you.
- I didn't--

- You didn't know that.
- I didn't know that.

No, I didn't.
- Okay.

That makes
a lot more sense now.

Well, I mean, that's exciting.
- Mm-hmm, it is.

[laughs]
- You think you can handle her?

- Yeah, I can handle it.
That's why I'm here.

- So, I mean, are you ready

to formally sort of ask her
to go out with you?

- Yeah, I will.
I know I will.

- 'Cause she's been hoping

that something would happen
with you guys.

So she's, like--
- I didn't even know that.

- No, right,
you didn't realize that.

But Apryl's
a beautiful young woman,

and if she doesn't get
the impression

that you're serious
about moving forward, you know,

she might have to start looking
for someone else to date.

I just want you to know that,
like, you've got a chance

to make something happen.

- Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah.

- All right, well, great.

I'd love to just let you
guys talk for a minute,

if that's cool.
- That's cool.

- So I'm gonna
bring them back in.

- All right.

[upbeat music]

[computer chimes]
- All right, guys.

We just want to let you guys
talk for a minute.

And, Apryl, you let me know

when a good time to kind of
come back in would be.

- Okay.
- All right.

- See you.

- What's up, bae?
- Hey.

[chuckles]
- Man...

- This is so weird.

It's just crazy that, like,

you're in front of me
right now.

The second I saw you pop up
on the screen,

I almost cried, like...

[both laugh]
- Me too.

- I was just so happy, like...
- It's like a real dream.

It's like, I'm happy
as [bleep], though,

even though I'm nervous
as [bleep] right now.

My anxiety's going crazy
right now.

- But that's
another thing, though.

That's, like--I'm a really
insecure person, too

Like, I know I put out this
super-confident persona,

but, like, I'm
a really insecure person.

Like, yeah, I know I post
a lot of nice-looking pictures,

but, like, you don't really see
100% of me, you know?

Like, there's a lot of editing.

There's a lot of posing
in certain ways, you know.

- Right, I understand all that,
but it don't even matter.

[chuckles]

- I've been going
for my whole life basically,

like, kind of feeling,
I guess, underappreciated

by most men that I come
into contact with, you know,

and it's, like, sexual
right away.

It's like disrespect, you know?

- Yeah, I'm different.
- I see that.

- I been single my whole life.

- You've been single
your whole life?

- Yep. Never kissed a girl.

- Damn.

Why, though?

- I ain't even
really want none.

I wasn't really interested

till, like, two years ago.

I'm like...

- Damn.

- Somehow, you have me
motivated.

You inspire me. It's like
a spark for some reason.

Like, I get anxiety
when I send you messages.

Like, I be nervous. Like, I
don't know if she got feelings.

Like, just something about you
just had me, like...

stuck on you.

- [chuckles]
[bleep].

- [chuckles]

- I don't even know
what to say.

Like...
- Since day one.

I've been in love, for real.

I ain't never been
in love either.

But I know, when I see you,

I get a feeling
that I never felt before, so...

I just know.

- Oh, my gosh.
[laughs]

[inhales deeply]

Like, how are you real?

[both laugh]

- I don't believe this
right now.

Actually, this is amazing.

- [sniffles]
Oh, [bleep].

- [chuckles]

- I think I'm gonna tell them
to come back before...

- All right.
[both laughing]

- Ooh.

Oh, my gosh.

♪ ♪

[computer chimes]

- So what did we miss?
- [chuckles]

Everything good?
- Yeah, everything good.

- Everything is great, yeah.

- I'm still in shock
that it's not Candace.

I-I...
Wow. Okay.

We were wrong, Nev.
We were wrong.

- So, look, this is, you know,
rare for us on the show,

but all the more reason
to celebrate and be happy.

And I just want to make sure

that we all take
one sort of formal step

towards you guys
now moving forward.

So, at the very least,

can you guys give each other
your numbers so that, like...?

- Oh, yeah.
- Please.

- So I say it now?
- Yeah, tell her.

- 330...

[bleep].

[cell phone chimes]
- Oh.

- Deliver.
- I got it.

- Okay.

All right, so we've now got
phone contact.

All right, well, this is great.

I'm happy this worked out.

You know, I really think you
guys have a lot in common.

You clearly have a good
foundation of friendship

and respect for one another,

which, you know, is
a great place to start, so...

I don't know
what to tell you guys

other than get to it,
good luck.

Have fun.
- So who's going where?

Daryl, are you going
to Montreal?

Apryl, are you going to Ohio?

Like, what is the tea?
What's the plan?

- I'm leaving.

- So you're ready
to fly up there?

- Yep.

- I got a ton
of frequent flyer points.

So you tell me
as soon as that can happen,

and I will make
sure it happens.

- Today.
[laughter]

He's like, "Tonight."

- Thank you, guys, so much
for this.

- I guess that's it for us.
- Yep.

- Bye, guys.

- Bye.
- Bye.

- Michael's been talking
to this guy Dustin.

He's been stood up by Dustin
five times.

- Michael.
- If you have been lying,

I'm onto you.
- He's married.

- What's uglier
than possible divorce?

- We have an address in, like,
part of downtown.

- I'll go check it out.
- Turn right on Hope.

- Ooh, that is a warehouse.

What?

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