Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 33 - Tyler & Stefany - full transcript

- We got Tyler and Stefany.

"We met on Pornhub."

- Hoo! Spicy.
- Wow, that's a first.

- So you're a porn star?

- Daddy got what he's got,
you know?

We have, like, genuine,
actual conversations.

It's not physical.

I love her. I really do.

- Oh!
- [gasps]

"Married."

It says "married."



What the [bleep] is going on?

- "It's time you know
the truth."

- What truth?
- Here she comes.

[computer chimes]
Oh.

[dramatic musical sting]

[upbeat music]

♪ ♪

All right.

Ooooh...oh!

Let's do this.

Hello, Kamie.

[computer chimes]
- Hi.

- Should we get to work here?

- Ready.



Let's see. What do we got?
- Whoo!

- Oh.
- What's up?

- Hey, Ariel.

- Ariel.

- Have you met my brother?

- No, but you're the reason...
- Not officially.

- Why I'm employed.

[laughter]

- You're amazing
at what you do.

- Oh, thank you.

- So for those of you
who don't know,

this is my brother Ariel.

Along with his friend Henry,
they are the guys who

made the documentary
"Catfish" about me

and whose office I am
currently borrowing.

We were so young.

- [laughs] Yeah, I didn't know
what I was stepping into.

I really just came
to have lunch, but...

- Okay, well...
- Let's read an email.

- Join us.

- All right, so here we go.

- "Hey, Nev and Kamie,
my name is Tyler.

"I live in Massachusetts,
and the girl I'm in love with,

"Stefany,
lives in Florida.

"We've been talking
for the last two years.

We met on Pornhub."

- Hoo!
- Wow, that's a first.

I didn't even know
you could meet on Pornhub.

- In the comments maybe?
- In the comments?

- I wonder what category
it was.

- Can't wait to find out.

- [laughs]

- ♪ It's been a couple years ♪

♪ Since I've been
a little wasted ♪

- The next sentence
is very funny.

"I wasn't exactly looking
for a relationship."

- Yeah, obviously.

- "We exchanged phone numbers
quickly

and began to talk
every night."

♪ ♪

"It's hard for me
to open up

"because of some bad breaks
in my past."

So I'm very cautious."

- ♪ Could we slow down? ♪

♪ I just want you to be
honest with me ♪

"But Stefany
has given me hope."

- ♪ It gets so loud ♪

- "She's thoughtful, sexy,

"and my favorite thing
about her

is that she's genuine."

- ♪ I'll wait at your door ♪

♪ All night on your porch ♪

- "She's everything to me.

And I'm ready to spend
my life with her."

- ♪ I just want you
to be honest with me ♪

- "But things have been
a little fishy.

"We've never videochatted
or met up.

"And I promise it's not from me
not trying.

"But Stefany always has
some excuse.

"I've tried to visit her
in Florida,

"but her parents are always
having to get surgeries,"

so she's always busy
taking care of them."

This is, like,
checking every box.

- Please hold.

- Where are you going?

- I just need to make sure
I have them,

because clearly we need them.

- [laughs]

"So that's why
I'm writing you.

"I want to make sure
she's not a catfish,

"because I want to
move forward with her,

"but I need to know
that I can trust her.

"All of my hopes are with her

"and the strong connection
we have.

"I hope I'm wrong
to doubt her.

Tyler."

♪ ♪

I'm gonna text Tyler.

"Hey, Tyler.

"We want to help.

Jump in the zoom."

- How do you meet someone
on Pornhub?

Is she supposed to be
a porn star?

- Honestly, could Tyler
be a porn star

and she's, like, a fan?

- Yeah, that's true.

- [laughs]

- All right, you should go
eat lunch.

I'll let you know when we've
talked to Tyler

and what he says.

"Catfish" O.G. out.

- Yes, period.
- See you later, man.

- But can we talk about
this crazy [bleep] story?

There's so many flags
on the play.

Both of her parents are having
multiple surgeries?

What the [bleep] is going on?

[computer chimes]
- Oh.

- Ooh, Tyler.
- Hey, Kamie, Nev.

- Hi.
- What's up, buddy?

Where in Massachusetts
are you?

- I'm in Marlborough.

- What do you do?

- I worked at a coffee shop,
and, of course, you know,

all this COVID crap,

they've been shutting down
things.

So I started making
some porn.

- Ooh.

- You started making porn,
amateur porn.

- Yeah, yes, and it's not
amateur anymore, but yes.

- So you're a porn star?

- I'm--I'm not this huge porn
star, obviously.

But Daddy--Daddy got what
he's got, you know?

Let's put it like that.

- So you're telling me now
that your primary source

of income now is porn.

- Yes, yes.

- Wow.
- Good for you.

You have to use
your God-given talents.

- How often do you upload
videos?

- And so I've been trying to do
it every two weeks.

And don't do it with, like,
the same girl.

- How does that work?

Do you have to go out
and find women

who want to make porn with you?

- Right, and that's not
the easiest thing to do,

of course, you know, like,
people think,

"Oh, you're some creep.

You're some weirdo."

- How do you even find someone
to, like, hit them up?

- Pornhub.
- Oh.

- Yes.

- And so you saw her, and
you're like, "Oh, she's cute."

- Yeah, and I messaged her.

We started talking
and everything like that.

Of course, she's from Florida,
so it didn't really lead

to anything of us making actual
contact with each other.

But we would just actually
just start talking.

- Was she also making
and uploading porn?

- She did have a couple
of videos.

- You saw what she looked like.

You saw her in a porn video.

- I didn't see her face....

- Mm.
- But her body seemed to match

of what her pictures were.

- But Stefany's profile,

is there, like,
a profile picture

that you can put up?

- Yes, she did have pictures
of her face, yes.

- Interesting,
but at the same time

her face wasn't in her videos.

- No, so a lot of girls,
they don't want to, like,

the neighbor next door
to know like,

"Oh, yeah, I just shot
a porn video," you know,

so you always, like,
keep their face out.

- What do you know about her?

Give us a sort of bio
on Stefany.

- I know she has two parents
that are sick.

And she says she lives
a little away from Tampa.

- Are you guys the same age?

- She's 35. I'm 26.

- Oh, wow, okay,
so she's a little older.

- Oh, yeah, that's fine.

- So has she been married?

Has she--does she have kids?

- Yeah, no, she has no kids
as far as I'm concerned.

She's not married as far
as I'm concerned.

None of those.

- What is it about Stefany?

What do you guys chat about?

- We have, like, genuine,
actual conversations.

It's not physical,
but it's us talking

and knowing each other.

I love her.
I really do.

We talk on the phone
basically almost every night.

- Wow.
- If I'm upset, she's there.

I'll talk to her, and she'll--
she'll talk with me.

It's that genuine connection,
and I [bleep] love that.

Like...I...

I haven't had that in so long.

I have a hard time
connecting with people,

any type of, like, relationship
or anything like that.

- You said that you've had
some bad breaks in your past.

Is that relationship stuff?

- Yes.
- What happened?

- Um, I was in a relationship
with, um,

this girl for maybe, like,
three years.

And it's, like, out of nowhere
out of the blue

she just hits me up and says,
like, oh, it's over.

And I tried hurting myself.

Thank God I'm good now.

- Well, I'm glad you made it
through that.

- Yeah, it was really hard.
It was really hard.

- So since then you haven't
really had, like,

a serious relationship?

- The last year is just--no.

- And then two years ago
you met Stefany.

- Stefany.

- Do you guys talk about being
in a relationship in real life?

- Yeah, so we've talked
about that, of course.

And I feel like we already have
a relationship.

- But you've never
videochatted.

- And that's why I'm hitting
you guys up.

- Well, so yeah,
what's the deal with that?

Because obviously
she's using technology.

I mean, she's uploading videos.

How can she explain
not FaceTiming?

- So she has, like,
an Android, right?

And I have an iPhone.

I've mentioned, I was like,
"Oh, do you have Facebook?"

"No."

"Do you want to download
Snapchat?"

"No."

Every single time,
there was an excuse

And he has been nerve-racking.

Here's the thing, so I tried
to meet up with her before.

And it's, her father's sick
or her mother's sick.

Every time it's somebody's
sick.

- Right.

- I've been doing this
for two years with her.

Just tell me.

Just tell me.
Show me anything.

- Yeah, it's been two years.

- Yeah, it scares the heck
out of me.

What if it's not her?

That why I got in contact
with you guys.

- Do you have pictures
that we can see?

- Yeah.
- Oh, here we go.

Oh, hello.
- Oh.

- So tig ol' bitties.

- Her bottom.

- I'm good.

- [laughs]
- Scroll.

- Okay.
- Okay.

- So but here she is normal
looking very nice.

- Yeah, you know what I mean?

- Yeah,
she looks like a normal girl.

But obviously there's something
that keeps getting in the way.

- Always.

- Send us the pictures,
her name, her phone number.

- Pornhub username.

- So recently she deleted
her account.

I believe she had
some verification issues.

- Is that because now in order
to upload content on Pornhub

you have to have, like,
a verified account?

- Yes.

- All right, well, we've got
our work cut out for us.

We're gonna help.

- Thank you.
Thank you so much.

- Talk soon.
- All right, thank you, guys.

- Bye.
- Okay, buh-bye.

[computer chimes]
- Whew.

- Part of me feels like
there's as much of a chance

that it is actually her
as that there isn't,

because he messaged her.

It wasn't like she was trolling
looking for guys to catfish.

- I think that it is her
in the photos,

but something else is going on.

And she cannot let Tyler
in on that.

- Right.
What is she hiding?

- ♪ I've waited here
all summer long ♪

♪ For you my love
to come back home ♪

- Hey.

- All right,
so what do we got here?

We got Tyler. He's 26.

He's uploading porn
and looking for women

to want to make videos
with him

and sees this girl Stefany.

They start chatting,
and they fall in love.

The problem is,
Stefany is a little shady.

She doesn't want to FaceTime.

Every time Tyler makes a plan
to go down to visit her

in Florida she says that one
of her parents is sick.

- He's, like,
very much emotionally invested.

You can tell that he's, like...
- Oh, yeah.

- Sick to his stomach
even thinking about her

not being real.

- Maybe there's something big
about her life

that he doesn't know
that she's intentionally

been keeping from him.

So we've got to figure it out.

So let's see,
we've got an email.

Okay, good.
He sent us an email.

"Hey, guys,
thanks for helping me.

"Here's what I know
about Stefany.

Uncommon spelling.

S-T-E-F-A-N-Y.

"Her last name is Dunngar."

Unusual in a good way.

I mean, if there is someone
named Stefany Dunngar,

we should be able to find her.

"She's lives in Largo,
Florida.

"Her phone number...

"She doesn't have a Pornhub
anymore,

But I remember her username
on there was ny angel [bleep]."

And he sent her pictures.

All right, let me download
these pictures.

All right, what should we start
with, image search?

Let's do this one.

Nothing.

Here's another one.

Anything there? No.

Okay, oh, here's the boob pic,

which I doubt will show up,
but...

- Are we searching those?

- Jesus Christ.
- Oh, wait a second.

Wait a second.
- What? What?

This--look at this.

- [gasps]

- The boob pic.
- Oh.

- Whoa, a lot of hits.

- "[bleep] naked
at a redneck party."

- All right, I'm clicking this.

- [laughs]

- Here it is.

- How do the titties come back
out of everything?

- So this was from September
of 2014.

- So this is old, then.

- Hold on. Let me just search
this butt pic too,

'cause I wonder if
that will show up.

Look, they're all showing up.
This is ridiculous.

I mean, this--we've never had
this many hits on pictures.

These are not, like,
some girl sending him

cute pics of her butt.

Like, clearly whoever he's
talking to

is getting these pictures
off the internet.

- Or just posting them
on the internet.

- That would be so weird
if you're talking

to a woman, and you think
she's your girlfriend.

And you're like,
"Send me a pic,"

and she's like, "Okay,"
and then she just sends you

a pic that she's uploaded
on the internet

that showed up on a ton
of sites.

Like, no.

He thinks those are pictures
that she's taking

and sending to him.

I think we can officially
call it.

The "sexy photos" that Stefany
has sent to Tyler are not her.

Now, we don't know
if the face pics are her.

Because those didn't
come back anywhere.

Let's go to Pornhub and see
if we can find her.

Here we go.

- She said she deleted
her [bleep],

but who knows?
- Here we go.

"ny angel [bleep]."
- Lord have mercy.

[funky music]

- Nothing.

Well, she told Tyler the truth
about something.

She did close her account.

So let's run the number,
the old phone number,

and see if we get
anything there.

Ooh--oh!
- [gasps]

- Oh, my God. Wait a second.

On Spokeo the number comes back
to Lea Dunngar, Florida.

- Related to Stefany Dunngar.

- Oh, my God,
Stefany with an F-A-N-Y.

- Oh, [bleep].

- I can't believe it.

So wait a second.
- Oh, [bleep].

- So if it's a family plan,

at least she's not lying
about her name.

- So I'm assuming that this
is Stefany's mom.

- So let's look up.

So we want to look up Lea
or Stefany.

I mean,
let's just look up Stefany.

I mean, that's what she says
her name is.

All right, well,
there are some Stefanys.

All right, so there's no one on
Facebook who spells their name

exactly like her.

Let's do Lea Dunngar.

No.

- What about a Google search
for her name?

- All right, let's see.

No.

Lea Dunngar.

What's this? Oh, look.

There's a voter registration
result for Lea Dunngar.

She's got a voter record.

Oh, here it says she's listed
at 63.

- Okay.
- So that would make

more sense.
- Yeah, Stefany Dunngar.

You see it under "Relatives"?

- Stefany Dunngar.

- Search it.

- There she is, 35.

Just like she said.

- Click it. Click it.

"Married."

It says "married."

Oh, boy.
- Bingo.

- Oh, boy.

- Girl.

Ay-yi-yi.

- Now, maybe she's divorced,
but do you think she--

in two years she might have
mentioned that, right?

- Right.

- But it looks like her name
is Stefany Dunngar,

and she is 35,
and she does live

in the Tampa area,
which is all great.

I mean, shocking but positive.

- If I were to place
my $1 bet right now,

I would say Stefany Dunngar
is the girl in the photos,

but she is married.

- There's something
going on here,

and Tyler's, like,
not well-suited

for heartbreak
and disappointment.

- No. I don't know if it's
better to pull the Band-Aid off

now or later.

It's not looking good.

- All right, so it looks like
her name is Stefany Dunngar,

and she is 35, and she does
live in the Tampa area.

- But there's a possibility
that Stefany

could still be married,

which would be
the worst-case scenario.

But then how was she on the
phone with him for hours

if she has a husband?
- That's true.

Let's text Tyler.

"We've got some info..."

- Ay-yi-yi-yi.

- "Jump back in the zoom."

All right,
he's coming in the zoom.

- Okay.
- He's coming in.

[computer chimes]

- Welcome back.
- What's up?

- Hey, how's everything?

- How are you feeling
about all this since,

you know, we talked earlier?

- Really nerve-racking,
you know?

I'm just waiting to see what
you guys find out.

- [sighs]
- Well, we've got

some very interesting
information for you.

We started just searching all
the photos that you sent us...

- Yeah.
- Of Stefany.

And the first three were just
pictures of her,

you know,
normal sort of everyday,

and there were no hits.

And then we searched the
picture of her breasts,

and that was our first hit.

And as you can see
if you scroll down,

it shows up on a bunch
of different sites.

It was posted apparently
on 2014.

So if that is a pictures
of Stefany

it's at least six years old,

and if it is actually her,
it's something that she

must have shared or perhaps
someone else shared of her.

But it's on the internet.

Were you under the impression
that that was sort of

a just-now type of photo?

- Yeah.
- It could be her.

- Right.

- I just think
that would be weird

for her to have sent you
a photo

that she's shared online...

- Something forever ago.
- Six years ago. Like...

- Yep.
- Just kind of weird.

So it suggests that maybe
that's not her.

And maybe she found
that picture online.

So we searched this one next,

the picture of her butt.

And that one also came back

with hits on a bunch
of websites.

[tense music]

So think it's safe to say that
the pictures she's sending you

that are sexy aren't her.

- Yeah.

I mean, it does look that way,
yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I know
exactly what you're saying.

I mean,
it was from years ago, like...

- Right.
- This is all blowing my mind

- Right now; excuse me.
- Right

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I mean, look,
there's also the possibility

that she's careful.

Now, even though you met her
on Pornhub,

her videos didn't show her
face,

and so maybe even talking
to you she just wants to be

extra careful, and so she
doesn't want to take

any chances and send pictures
of her actual body.

I could see that argument
being made.

It doesn't change the fact
that she is lying to you.

- Wow.

- Well, because I'm assuming
that when she's sending you

these pictures you're
commenting back to her

about how you feel about
what she's sending you.

- Yeah, and so, like, I'm like,
"Oh, wow, that's sexy,"

and, like, "Oh, that's hot."

But you're saying, like,
exactly, it's years ago,

and so even if it is her,

I don't know,
it's just not all adding up.

And I'm not liking this at all.

I'm not liking this.

- Well, this is where we kind
of get to some good news, okay?

So next thing we wanted to do

is search her phone number,
right?

So we did a search
for the phone number.

And it came back
to Lea Dunngar.

But then we scrolled down
to her relatives,

and we found Stefany Dunngar.

- Yay, thank God.

- So then we did another
search for Lea Dunngar.

And we found a voter
registration website

in Florida.

We then were like, "Oh, let's
search 'Stefany,'"

and we did "Stefanys,"
and we found

that she is also registered.

Stefany Dunngar.
- Yay, 35.

- This was shockingly good.

And this a pretty official
website.

I mean, her name...
- Yes.

- Her age, where she--
the same city

that she says she lives in,
like, crazy.

- Oh, yeah, oh, okay.

Yes, yay, okay.

I mean, this is sounding good.

It--like, better now, yeah.

- But here's the thing we found
that you might not like.

- Oh, gosh.

- When we clicked on that,

look what it says.

- "Married."

- Yes.

- What's--son of a gun.

[laughs]

Ohh.

Wow.

I just don't even know
what to think.

I'm speechless.

- For me I feel personally
my gut instinct is telling me

that the pictures of the face
of the girl that you know

to be Stefany is her.

But there is something
in her personal life

that she is not sharing
with you,

and maybe it is that she is
married.

- ♪ My girl my girl ♪

♪ Ain't life a scream? ♪

- Something's up.

I have no idea what it is.

I--I want it to be her
in the pictures.

And want there to be an
explanation for all this,

but I can't come up with one
right now, and,

like, I can't help but think
that the truth

at the end of this
may not be what you want.

- ♪ Into your eyes ♪

♪ Oh you crucify me ♪

- With everything you guys
have been telling me,

I--I don't think so as well.

Like, I have no idea
what to expect anymore.

♪ ♪

- ♪ My girl my girl ♪

♪ Help me understand ♪

- I mean, obviously nothing
could happen

if she's married.

You guys have my head spinning.

- ♪ Your naked soul ♪

- Well, like,
who am I talking to?

- ♪ Your naked soul ♪

- Clearly the relationship
you have with Stefany is real,

and it appears that she is
also real.

- Yeah.

- But one of two things
is happening.

She's either not the girl
in the pictures she sent you.

Or she could be the girl
in the pictures,

but she's married

or has something in her life
that she

doesn't want you to know about,

and that's why
she's keeping you...

- In the dark.

- In Massachusetts,
because if you come down there,

it would complicate things
and be a problem.

- [sighs]

It's just--wow.

Everything you showed me,
just wow.

[sighs]

- Well, what do you want to do
at this point?

- I want to know who she is.

I really want to know now
more than ever.

I want to know, is this who
I'm talking to

in these pictures for years
and years?

I want to know what--
what's going on?

- Right.

Because she has no
social media,

and we can't find anything,

the only thing really for us
to do at this point

is just reach out to her.

- Yeah.
- With your permission,

I think we should call Stefany
and see what she says.

- I've exhausted
every other option.

- Yeah.

- I don't know what else
I could do.

- Right. All right.

Should I do it?

- Yeah.

[line trilling]

[tense music]

- Let me text her.
"Hey, Stefany.

"This is Nev from 'Catfish.'

"We're trying to help you
and Tyler finally 'meet up,'

and we're hoping
to speak with you."

- So we'll see
if she responds.

[phone dings]
- Oh, wait a second.

- Oh, man.

- "I want to meet Tyler,

but I cannot videochat
on my phone."

- We know that.

She don't have a smartphone,

but she got access
to Pornhub?

From where, her phone,
the computer?

- You know what?

I've got a crazy idea
that might make

this videochat happen.

This is a first.
We've never done this before.

But, "We can
overnight a phone to you."

- [gasps]

- I--I don't even know, like
these feelings.

My heart's in my stomach.

[phone chimes]

- Oh, she said--whoa.

"Okay."
And she sent an address,

but it's in Texas.

- Okay, no.

We're not sending her
a [bleep] phone.

She can [bleep] off.

"I thought you were in Tampa."

[phone chimes]

- Is she out of her mind?

- Oh, she's visiting a friend
right now in Texas,

and you know that?

- She said her friend
was coming to her.

But I never said I knew
she was going to Texas.

- What address is that?

- Search it. Search it.

- No name, but it's a house.

Let's just hope that she gets
the phone.

If it is her and she's
visiting her friend

or she's been in Texas
this whole time, I don't know,

but the good news is,

she says she want
to talk to you

and that the only reason she
hasn't is because

she hasn't had
the right technology,

so let's give her
the technology

and see what happens.

- I mean, I'm ready.

- Get some rest.

Try to clear your head
a little bit.

- We'll see what happens
tomorrow.

- I'm gonna sleep on this.

I'll talk to you guys tomorrow.

- All right.

- Good night, Tyler.
- Good night.

[computer chimes]
I don't know.

What do you think?
- Uh...

- I mean, look, I feel like
sending a phone

is our best option.

And yeah, okay, obviously we
might lose a phone.

But if on the off chance
she does use it

to talk to us,
it will be worth it.

- You sound like every hopeful
ever

that has sent
a [bleep] phone

or some money
for a bus ticket.

Like, "Yeah, you know,
worst-case scenario

"they use my money to go do
something else.

It's the thought that counts."

No.
- Right, well...

- I'm not with it.
- It's a risk I'm willing

to take.

- Okay, it's coming out
of your check.

- Sure.
- [laughs]

- But hopefully it works,
she--she talks to us tomorrow,

and Tyler finally finds out

who this woman is.

- Good night.

[computer chimes]

- I'm feeling really scared
right now.

I don't know
what to expect.

I have no idea
what to expect.

I just really hope I can
finally get

to the bottom of this
and figure this out.

[gentle music]

[phone ringing]

- Tyler?

- I haven't looked
at the phone.

I actually just got--
I just got to the office.

- Give me a minute
to think about it,

and then I'll call you back.

- All right.

- Well, that was unexpected.

Wasn't ready for that,
but okay.

[computer chimes]

There she is.

So Tyler FaceTimed me.

So I guess texted him
and basically said,

"Hey, I got the phone,"

"and I want to Facetime
with you.

"I just don't want to do it
today on the show.

Can we do it tomorrow
not on the show?"

- No, because the phone
expires.

The phone will dissipate
like "Avengers: Endgame."

- Anyway, Tyler's freaked.

He wasn't sure what to say
to her.

I told him just to wait

and I would get back to him
soon.

So let me text him.

[computer chimes]

both: Oh.
- Here he comes.

- Hello.

How are you doing?

- Extremely nervous honestly.

- I just don't believe that
she'll FaceTime you tomorrow.

- Right. I'm on the same boat
as that as well, you know.

Like, I've been doing this
for two years with her.

- Right.
- We've been talking,

and then it just, "Oh, no.
Let's do it tomorrow."

And it's, like, what?
- Mm-hmm.

I'm sure it's disappointing
to see that over the course

of two years she's had excuses
as to why she can't even

just show her face to you.

And now she doesn't have
an excuse of...

- Right.
- "Oh, I don't have

a smartphone;
I can't videochat."

She has it in her hands, and
she's still trying to delay it.

- Yeah, like, I still have
all these feelings,

of course, you know?

I don't see these feelings
going away anytime soon.

And then but it's, like,
what are you hiding?

- Right.
Maybe if you're willing

to actually tell her
that today is her last chance,

and then if she doesn't
videochat with you today

you're not gonna talk
to her anymore.

- Okay.

I should just put the foot down
really and just, you know,

I need to give her
that ultimatum.

- Let's do it.
- Yeah.

- And just say, like, "Look,

"I'm not putting myself
through this anymore.

"This isn't fair to me.

You agreed to do this,
so let's do it."

- Okay.

- "I don't think this is fair.

"If you don't want to do this
today, that's your choice.

"But I can't wait any longer."

Nice. Send away.

- Okay, here goes nothing.

[phone chimes]

Whew.

- [clapping]

- Ohh.
- Good job.

- Ay-yi-yi.

- I mean, she says that she's
"with a friend in Texas,"

but what if she's at
her husband's house

and that's why
she can't videochat?

- Hey, who knows?

[computer chimes]
both: Oh.

- Hey. Holy [bleep].

- "I'm honestly not scared,
Tyler.

"I know you love me no matter
what.

"If you really want to do this
on the show,

"I'll do it for you.

It's time you know the truth."

- The truth.
What does that mean?

- What truth?

What are you talking about,
what truth?

- Yeah, I mean, who knows?

I feel like we've got her
right now.

She says she wants to do it.

You should respond and say,
"Great," like...

- Pop in. Send the link.

[tense music]

[phone chimes]

- Ohh.
[chuckles]

- Now we just wait.

And hopefully she'll join.

- Is she married,
and does she have kids?

I mean,
I'm just really nervous.

[computer chimes]

- Oh.

- Is she married,
and does she have kids?

I mean,
I'm just really nervous.

[computer chimes]

- Hello.

- Hi.

- Hello.

- You're Stefany.

- Yes, ma'am.

- Nice to meet you.
I'm Kamie.

- Nice to meet you too.

[tense music]

- I don't know what to say.

I mean, it's obviously not you
in the pictures.

- No.

♪ ♪

- So, Stefany,

you sent Tyler a bunch
of photos

of another woman.

- Yes.

- Where did you get
these pictures from?

- Facebook.

- Do you know who
this woman is?

- No.

- Okay,
you also uploaded videos.

Were those videos someone else?

- Someone else.

- But your name is Stefany.

- Yes, sir.

- You are 35.

- Yes, sir.

- Have you ever been
or are you married?

- No, never.

Never been married.

- Got it. Okay.

And why are you in Texas again?

- I'm helping out my friend
right now.

- Okay, so you do live
in Florida.

- Yes, I do live in Florida.

- So some of the times
that Tyler had inquired

about coming to visit you,
you said you couldn't,

'cause your parents were sick,
or was that all true?

- Yeah. Yes, yes, very true.

- Seems to me you're talking
to us on a laptop.

- Yes.

- You said you didn't have
a way to talk to us,

which is why we sent you
a phone.

Why lie about that?

- 'Cause I was scared.

- Okay.

- Where's the phone?

- The phone is in my purse.

- Now you've got a free phone.

Are you sending it back?

- Yeah, I'll send it back.

- Well, and there were ways
you could have videochatted...

- Yes.
- With Tyler, right.

- Yes.
- Right, so that wasn't true.

- Everything that I've ever
told him,

everything I've ever
told him is 100% the truth.

I have never lied to him
about anything.

He knows everything.

And I never would lie to him
ever.

- Except about the computer
and the phone.

- About the pictures, yes,
and the computer.

- And the pictures.

- Yes.

- I just--I just wish you
could have told me the truth,

like, years ago.

It's just like...

- Why even make
a Pornhub account?

What was the point?

- It started out 'cause I just
wanted to watch videos.

And I just talked to a couple
of guys here and there.

- So were you looking for some
kind of

particular interaction
with people?

- Yeah, they were saying
that I was pretty,

and they liked my butt.

- I'm sure that felt good
to hear.

- It did. It did.

'Cause I haven't heard it in a
very, very, very, very,

very long time.

- Did you also feel...

- Bad.
- Weird about that? Yeah.

'Cause it wasn't you.

- Yeah, I felt bad.

I always felt bad.

- So, Stefany, do you talk
to other guys,

or have you talked
to other guys?

- I stopped as soon as me
and him started talking.

I've never,
ever wanted to hurt him ever.

I love him with all my heart.

[gentle music]

- Then why did you feel like
you had to lie to me for,

like, two years?

- I...

never thought

that I would find somebody
on Pornhub

that I would have such
a strong connection with.

I went to tell you
a lot of times,

a lot of times

that I wasn't the girl
in the pictures.

But then there's that--

that little thought
in the back of your head.

"You're not pretty enough.
You're not skinny enough.

"You're not good enough.

You're never gonna find
somebody who loves you."

And then you start to
second-guess yourself,

and you just back out.

- I would think that out of
all of the platforms

that there are to meet people

Pornhub is a place
that has something

for literally everyone.

I know that for a fact
that they have content

for women that look
all different kinds of ways.

- Yeah.
- So why not put yourself

out there as yourself?

- 'Cause I've been told
so many times I'm not pretty,

you know, so it's like,
"Okay, if I'm not pretty,

then what do I do?"

- So sounds like your feels
for Tyler

are real.

- Yes.

I love him.

He makes me smile.

♪ ♪

I get butterflies
when we talk.

'Cause Tyler helped me get out
of a very dark place I was in.

I got hurt a lot,
a lot.

And a couple of my
ex-boyfriends hit me.

So that made me feel like
I wasn't good.

And then I had a lot of death
in my family.

So it was just, like,
one thing after another

after another after another
after another.

And I just went down
this dark place.

And I thought about suicide.

- Yeah, we've--we've talked
about that before

with each other,
and, like, I love--

I love our conversations
with each other,

and you felt them
so much as well.

- Yeah.

- But you also know that
you're the only woman

that he's trusted in a really,
really long time...

- Yeah, I know that.
- And that his last experience

with trusting a girlfriend,

someone that he loves,

ended really,
really badly for him.

- Yeah, I know.

- You had to have known that
this would break his heart...

- I did.
- To think that you were

lying to him about anything.

Whether or not he chooses
to forgive you or not,

you had to have known
that this moment for him

would be bad.

- Hard. Yeah, I knew.

- Tyler, Stefany is obviously
putting her feelings

out there, but I don't really
think it's clear

where your head or heart
is at right now.

I guess, is there hope
of making this work?

[tense music]

♪ ♪

- Tyler, Stefany is obviously
putting her feelings

out there.

Is there hope
of making this work?

[tense music]

- [inhales and exhales]

I'm just really shaky
right now.

I really need a break.

♪ ♪

[computer chimes]

- All right, look, Stefany,
hang out for a minute.

Let's take a quick break
so that we can regroup.

We'll get Tyler quickly back,

and we'll bring you back in,
and we'll--

we'll sort of figure out
how this chapter ends.

- Yeah.
- All right, we'll speak to you

in a minute.

[tense music]

[computer chimes]

- [sighs]
Hey, guys.

- You were pretty quiet,
but I know you have thoughts.

- 'Cause it's [bleep] up
that she just lied to me

the whole time.
- Right.

- It's really [bleep] up.

And--and this is why
I don't trust people.

This is why I am--
this is who--

that's why I am who I am.

- Well, outside of the lies,
do you still feel

as attracted to Stefany
as you did before?

[gentle music]

♪ ♪

- What's really [bleep] with me
is just the lies.

I've always told you
I don't care, like,

what you look like.

It's not about your damn looks.

Like,
I can't stress that enough.

But it's, like, why the [bleep]
are you lying

for two [bleep] years,
and then I'm just over here

and just sitting in the dark,

and then I have to go through
all these hoops

just to finally see you when...
- Right.

- You've just been lying about
even your goddamn phone?

- Right.
- It's just things are tough.

Things are really tough
right now.

I love talking to her.

I love that.

I love that connection
we do have.

- Do you still like
the idea of

being in a relationship
with her?

- It's--that's something I just
need to think about.

I just feel stupid if I keep
talking to her, you know?

I don't know,
and I feel like

I'd be such a [bleep] fool
to be like,

"Oh, you lied to me
for two years.

You know, it's fine, you know."

- Every relationship people
have highs and lows

with the way that they feel
about themselves

and their self-confidence,
but it's been two years

of you validating this person,

and they still could not be
completely honest with you.

- Yeah, yeah,
I get what you're saying too.

- We'll bring her back in,
and we'll let her know

how it's gonna be.

- Okay.

[tense music]

[computer chimes]

- Hey.

- Hello.

- So, I mean, you know I don't
care about, like, looks.

You know that.
- I know.

- I really love talking
to you.

Like, every--I mean,
every--you know,

we basically talk, like,
every single night.

And I love it.

You know, I've--me and you
can talk about anything.

We talk about the craziest
goddamn [bleep] in the world.

And I always feel so open
with you.

I can...
- Yeah, we do.

- You know, I would never--
I never lied to you.

And what's been going on is,

you lied to me for two years.

- Yeah.
- I just feel unappreciated

really,
and I'd feel stupid if we,

like,
continued to keep talking.

I need time to think.

You know with everything
that I've been through,

and it's--I don't know.

It just doesn't seem fair
to me.

- I know,
and I'm sorry, truly.

I know what I did
was effed up,

totally effed up.

As much as I've worked
on the physical,

I've been trying
to lose weight.

- Good for you.

- I know I still need
to work on the psychological.

And I will give you as much
space as you need

for as long as you need.

- Okay.

- He might not come back.

- I know,
and that's my fault.

And I'll--
I'll keep trying.

I will, 'cause I love him.

♪ ♪

He is the best thing that's
ever happened to me--

everything good to me,

and now this is my price
that I have to pay.

♪ ♪

And I understand that,
and I'm--I'm okay.

Like, I'll be okay.

- [sighs]

- Well, then I think,
you know,

now this is a good place
just to leave it.

Tyler, are you okay?

- Yeah.

- All right, well, then
I think we'll say goodbye.

- Okay.

- All right, Stefany,
thank you.

Nice to meet you.

- Nice to meet you guys too.

- And good luck
on your continued journey...

- Thank you.
- And hopeful path

toward happiness.

- Good luck,
- All right, take--take care.

- Thank you.
- All right, guys.

I'll see ya.

- Thanks, Tyler.
- Ciao.

- Later, buddy.
- Good luck.

- Thank you.
- Bye.

[computer chimes]

- [sighs]
Well...

- I hope that when we
talk to him again

they're still talking.

- I kind of do too.

- All right.
- Another "Catfish" case

closed.

- Boom.

[Tom Bromley's
"This Empty Heart"]

- ♪ If I wake up here
next to you ♪

♪ ♪

♪ Is it only worth it
if it hurts? ♪

♪ ♪

- Three years ago,
Courtney met Chris,

who lived in Turkey, online.

- Oh, I'm in love with him.

- Have you sent gifts?

- I've sent around a grand.

- Courtney.

- Why is this guy
cloaking his identity

not just from her
but from everyone?

- Oh, my God.

- I can hear you.

- What is happening?

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