Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 30 - Will & Cherry - full transcript

- Will meets this cosplay girl
named Cherry from Thailand.

- I've already applied
for my passport.

I'm ready to roll, man.

[dramatic musical spike]

- That was sketchy,
first of all.

- That was weird, right?

- It could be a hustle.
It could be anything.

- I'm not gonna lie to you.
I'm scared.

- I have no clue
what's about to happen.

- You gotta be ready
for anything.

[bell chimes]
- Oh.



- Ooh.
Oh, uh, hello?

- Oh, God.

[upbeat music]

- This is it.
We're really doing it.

Leaving the house.
[chuckles]

Go film an episode
of "Catfish."

This is very exciting.

I mean, I'm just so happy

we could finally make
this work.

Obviously we all got tested.

To the "Catfish" HQ.

- I'm officially outside
of our office.

Excited to be here.

Something, like, semi-normal,
I guess.



Oh.

- Hey!
- Ahh!

[chuckling]
You scared me.

- What's up?
- We're not allowed to hug.

- What?
- We can, like, foot-bump.

- Look at this, look at this.
- This is what we're doing now.

- Can we touch butts?
- This is the new normal.

I think so.

Mine's big enough
to be 6 feet apart from you.

- Hey!
- [chuckles]

- Biggie.
- It's Uncle Nev!

- We've never actually met.
Look at this guy.

Hey.
- God, we're back.

Oh, my God.
[cork pops]

- Hey!
[cheers]

We're back!
- Yay!

Oh!
[breathes deeply]

- All right, here we are.
- Cheers to that.

- We're officially
in each other's bubbles.

So we can hang.

All right.
[claps]

You ready?
- I think so.

- Well?

- I don't even know how to act.
- I know, right?

It feels just like, uh--

- It's like homecoming

with the person
that your mom made you go with.

- Right.
Who makes the first move?

- What do we do?
Do you wanna drink?

- Yeah.
[chuckles]

All right.
Let's read an email.

"Hey, Nev and Kamie.

"My name is Terry.

"I'm reaching out to you

because my friend Will
has gone and lost his mind."

- Ooh.
- "Over a girl named Cherry

he met six weeks ago
on social media.

- ♪ You can call my name ♪

- "Cherry and Will are both
into cosplay

"where people dress up
as their favorite characters

in comics or movies."

- ♪ Like cops and robbers
on the TV show ♪

♪ You come to look
and wear it all ♪

- "Will initially reached out
to her

"because he wanted
to buy some pictures of her

dressed up as a character."
- Mm?

- ♪ And you can use
any Russian disguise ♪

- I guess that is a thing.
- I think it's fun.

- "One thing led to another

and now they talk
just about every day."

- ♪ Call my name ♪

- "Cherry lives in Thailand."

[chuckles]
"Which is a red flag to me."

- Yes.

- "But it's also
an added complication.

"He says she tries
to video chat with him,

"but it's always
in the middle of the night

"when he's sleeping.

"I told Will I was concerned

"but he's a grown man
and can make his own choices,

but he's sending her money."

- Mm?
- "Which is stupid to me.

"But again, it's his life.

"What made me reach out to you

is Will is suddenly saying
he's moving to Thailand."

[tense notes]
- In this climate?

- "If this girl is real,
then I'm happy for my friend

"and I hope he'll love life
in Thailand,

"but I know something
is messed up here

"and he's moving too fast.

"I think she just likes
his money,

but Will won't listen
to reason."

- ♪ It's cops and robbers
on the TV show ♪

♪ You come and look
and wear it all ♪

- "Can you help me get through
to him?"

Let's text Terry.

"Hello, Terry.

This is Nev and Kamie."

[notification chimes]
There it is.

- Boom.
- The link is sent.

- There's so many people
who do cosplay.

Like, TikTok has opened me up.
I'm on cosplay TikTok.

And there's tons of people
who are doing it

so there's tons of people
who are taking these photos.

So it could be that "Cherry"
is catfishing him

and just taking photos
from other cosplay people.

- Right.
Oh, for sure.

[bell chimes]

- Hi!
- Oh!

- Can--can you hear me?

- Hey.
- Yes!

- What's up, Terry?
- Hey, how you doing?

- All right.
- Good. How are you?

- Look at his guy.
His smile. He's all smiles.

- I'm a happy person.
[chuckles]

- How's it going, man?
Where you at?

- So I'm in Columbus, Georgia.

- How do you know Will?

- We met through
a mutual friend.

And that's when
we both figured out

that we both love music,
we both love film,

and that's where
the bond formed.

- Is cosplay something Will's
been into for a long time?

Like--
- I got into it before he did.

And once he got into it,
he really dove into it.

- Oh. Does he go
to, like, the conventions...

- Yes.

- And, like,
the cosplay things?

- Mm-hmm.
- Ah, that's fun. Wow.

- It is.

- Your email, you talked about
how Will's been talking to you

about some girl that he met.

What do you know about her?

- She's in Thailand.

And I started to really,
really, really get concerned

- So what's up with Will?
Is he just, like, naive?

- I mean, I would consider Will
to be one of my best friends,

but he hasn't FaceTimed her
or video chat or anything.

And now,
he wants to go over there.

- But is he just talking about
going out there to see her

or is he talking about moving?

- Like, it made me nervous.

I can understand getting
a passport.

But when he got

his international
driver's license...

[tense notes]
That made me a little nervous.

Like, "Dude, what you need
a driver's license for?"

That's the other side
of the planet, you know?

That's why I write into y'all.

'Cause I don't know what else
to say to him.

I just want my brother
to be happy.

- All right, well, how do
you think Will's gonna react?

- I mean,
he knows I've contacted y'all,

but I don't think
he was gonna--

it was gonna make it this far.

- What do you think the
best way to approach this is?

- I got the perfect thing.
Hell, I'ma call him.

- He's gonna be hoodwinked.

[line trilling]

- Bro.

- Hey, you busy?

- That project
that we were working on

that you had me putting
the music behind?

- I need you to come check
on some stuff for me.

Make sure it's straight.

- All right.

- Oh, you smooth, Terry.
- Wow.

- You done this before.
- [laughs]

- My God.

- Will's on his way over
to your place now?

- Mm-hmm. I mean,
he stays, like, literally

three to five minutes from me,
so.

- What do you think
the probability

of this girl being legit is?

- Probability is slim to none.

It is always excuse
after excuse after excuse.

I'm like, "Uh-uh."

[door hinge creaks]

All right.
You guys ready?

- Ready.

- Yo!

- Will!

- [chuckles]

- What's up, man?
- What?

- Hello, Will.
- What's up?

- Oh, my God.
He set me up.

- [chuckles]
- Set you up.

- Come on in.

- Oh, man.
- Surprise!

- What's up, man?
- Hey, how's it going, y'all?

- You know who we are, right?
- Yeah.

I seen the show before.

- Terry told us you guys like
to go to comic conventions.

- Mm-hmm.

- When did you guys get
into cosplay?

- I host a podcast and in order
to get exclusive interviews,

I had to start going
to conventions.

But you know, at those cons,
there's cosplayers everywhere.

And I also do videography

and I networked
with one of the videographers.

But when I friended her,

my friend recommendation
completely changed.

Like, no longer local people.
- Mm.

- And I see Cherry in there
one day

and like, "Whoa, who's that?
She's cute. She's pretty."

I friend requested her,
she added me,

and this is where we started
kind of communicating.

She posted she was selling,
like, these Polaroids.

So I bought, like,
two or three photos from her.

- And did you get them?
- I got 'em.

- And they came from Thailand?

- They came from Thailand,
but I can't read the address.

- You chose the photos you
wanted or were you just, like--

- I got to choose the photos.

There was, like, nine photos up
and I chose three.

- So the photos had already
been taken?

[suspenseful music]

Interesting.
- Flag.

- Come on, Kamie.
You have my back?

Come on.
- Red flag.

- I didn't even say anything.
It's--Terry is speaking for me.

- [chuckles]

- Did you have to use
her full name

in order to send the money?

- MoneyGram says it has
to be the name on the ID

and it was a different name
that's on the Facebook.

- Okay.

Well, so what's her name
on Facebook?

- On Facebook, it's Zo Mari.

- But so--but she did give you
her, like, ID name?

- ID name, yes.

She said
it's pronounced Rujapha.

- So wait.
So what's Cherry?

Where's you get Cherry from?

- Cherry I'm assuming
is her English generic name.

- Interesting.
- Huh.

- So three names.

Like, laser beam.

Ain't nobody gonna
name themselves Beam.

- Yeah.
- Wait.

Wait, who's Beam?

- Beam,
is I'm assuming her friend.

She, like, tags her
on everything,

comments on her page
all the time.

I don't know Beam.

- Where in Thailand
does she say that she lives?

- Udon Thani.
- Okay.

- So you're pretty excited
about this?

This girl, this relationship?
- Yeah, definitely.

- But you still ain't seen
the chick or video chat.

- I mean, it's a big
time difference, man.

- So?
- Right.

That's a big time difference,

but 8:00 or 9:00 p.m.
your time,

that's 8:00 or 9:00 a.m.
her time, so...

- Mm-hmm.

- Surely there are ways
to make it work.

- Yeah, I mean, we've talked
on the phone before,

you know, around that time,
but--

- Okay, so you have talked
on the phone?

- On Facebook Messenger, yes.

- Do you guys talk often or--
- We do it a lot.

- And does she have an accent
at all?

- When she speaks English, yes.

- And what are your
conversations like?

- "I like you, I wanna see you,
you're beautiful."

We talk about cosplay,
we talk about movies.

She compliments me and stuff.
I compliment her.

- Do you guys say
"I love you"?

- I've said it twice,
she's said it once.

- Wow.
- So--wow.

- How long have you guys
been talking?

- Uh, I would say
about two months, maybe.

2 1/2 months.

- Like every day though,
pretty much?

- Every day except
for when she vanishes.

- Vanishes?

- After I sent her
the MoneyGram,

she sent me the stuff.

The next day,

she told me she had
to go to the hospital

and I didn't hear from her
for a couple of days.

- Why did she go
to the hospital?

- She says she had, like,
flu-like symptoms.

- "Flu-like symptoms"?

- And then a second time when
I sent her some more money,

I bought a costume that
I wanted her to cosplay in.

So I sent her that and she
went to the hospital again.

- [chuckling]
- Come on, Kamie. Stop.

- I didn't even say it,
I didn't even say it.

- Have my back.
- Okay.

Did she ever send you pictures
of her in the costume?

- No, she hasn't.
- [scoffs]

- But is that it?

Or was there more things
that have gone down?

- I did send her money for
another costume of her choice

and I did send her money,

you know, to, like,
get something to eat one day

since I felt like I can't
romantically take her out

on a date, here's money to get
you something to eat for lunch.

- Now you're thinking
about moving to Thailand?

- Well, I've already applied
for my passport,

got the international
driver's license.

I'm ready to roll, man.
- [chuckling]

- Kamie.
[chuckles]

- I ain't feeling any of it,
bruh.

'Cause what if she ain't
who she say she is?

- But, see, I need Kamie
to have my back, though,

because if it is her,

when women need help
or they need advice,

who they go to?
The other women.

They become the board
of directors.

So I need Kamie to be
on my side.

- The board of directors.

Oh, you already have it set up.
Okay, I see.

- Yeah.
[chuckles]

- Can you show us a picture
of her?

- Yeah.
- Oh, here we go.

Okay, let's see.

- Cherry.
- Oh, hello.

- Cherry.
- Wow, cute.

- Whoa.
- Yeah, she's beautiful.

- These are, like--
yeah, these are consistent.

They all look the same.

You guys send a lot
of pictures.

- This is the Polaroids
I received.

- Oh, cute.
- Mm.

- Yeah.
From Thailand.

- What if the Cherry
that you know

is not the girl
in the pictures?

Does that matter?
- Uh, yeah, it matters.

That's a bald-faced lie.

- [softly]
Mm.

- Dang, Kamie.
- I got your back, man.

I'm rooting for you.

I think from what I've seen
and what you've shown us, like,

I am honestly leaning towards
her being her right now.

♪ ♪

- I'm gonna be optimistic...
- [groans]

- And say I'm on a 60/40.
- Kamie.

- 60 catfish, 40 her?
- That's optimistic.

- Those are good odds
for this show.

[laughter]

All right, so look,
just send us

everything you have for Cherry.
- Okay.

- And let's go down this rabbit
hole and see what we find.

- See you soon, Will.
- Kamie, you're gonna change.

You're gonna root for me.
- [laughs]

I'm working on her.
I'll work on her.

- [chuckling]
We'll see, we'll see.

- You're gonna root
for your boy.

[chuckles]

♪ ♪

- I don't know.

I mean, look,
of course, red flags.

But I gotta say,
much more evidence

suggesting she could be real
than I expected.

You got photos in an envelope
from Thailand.

- Yes.

People are crafty, Nev.
- I guess.

- I don't put it past Cherry
to be playing him,

but what is she playing him
for?

What is the game?

- All right, Kamie.

We're not supposed to get
that close,

so I thought maybe
we can just put this up.

- This reminds me
of the nail salon.

This is exactly how it is
at the nail salon.

- [chuckles]

- Now I have a barrier
if I want to punch you.

- See?
- I can't get to you.

- We can--we can almost--
- Safety.

We can almost--
- Aww, we can, like, hug.

That's depressing.
Take that down.

- Yeah, all right.
- [chuckles]

- All right,
let's do some research.

- Biggie, you ready?
- [barks]

- All right, we got Will.

Through
his cosplay friendships,

ends up meeting this girl,
Cherry, from Thailand.

Hit it off.

He sees that she's offering

Polaroids of herself
in costume, so he buys a few.

They come from Thailand
in an envelope.

Legit.
- Allegedly.

- Anyway, they keep talking
more and more

and more and
he's getting really excited.

Problem is--
- It's suspicious.

- There are some red flags.
- Right.

- All right, well, look.

If this girl is a cosplayer
who has some notoriety,

shouldn't be that hard
to find her.

All right, so we got
an email from Will.

"Hi, Nev and Kamie.

"Here's what I've got for you
on Cherry.

"Her legal name
is Rujapha [bleep].

"I told her I was going
to send her a present

"and she said
this was her address.

"I'm sending you some pics

"but there are a lot
in my Facebook messages

so I'm sending you my login
so you can choose."

Okay, great.
So we can just go in for him.

"Cherry's Facebook is here and
if you have any questions

"or you need something else
from me, you can hit me up.

And now I'm glad you guys
are helping figure this out."

- All right.
No problem, Will.

- Let's do an image search
and see what comes up.

[suspenseful music]

- I feel like it's gonna
come right up.

♪ ♪

- All right.
So nothing there.

All right, let's try this one.

♪ ♪

And no.

Look, if these pictures

were on some
famous cosplayer's website,

they would probably come up,

so the fact
that they're not coming up

I think is actually good.

So here's her legal name--
the name he sent the money to.

And let's just do
a little searchey-searcharoo.

Okay, nothing.

I mean, I guess we can just put
her whole address in, right?

- Yeah.
- See exactly where she lives.

- Mm-hmm.

♪ ♪

Oh, right there.
- Here's satellite.

This looks like more
of an industrial part of town.

I mean, I think we probably

just don't have the address
formatted correctly.

- Or she sent him
a random address

because she didn't want him
to have her home address.

- Definitely a possibility.
All right, so what else?

- Facebook?

- Okay, so here's Cherry's
Facebook page

where she goes by Zo Mari.
- Mari.

- There's some writing
in what I presume is Thai.

- Mm-hmm.

- Here are some photos
that she's posted.

One of a bird.

Okay, here's a weird receipt
for, like, a bank transaction.

Not sure what this is for.

Has comments.
Okay, what is that?

- [gasps]
- It's always the other way.

- Yeah.

- So it's the 12th
of November...

both: 1963.

- So that date would probably
be a birthday, right?

- So maybe the person that Will
is talking to was born in 1963?

- That's not good.

- Oh, there's Beam.

Terry talked about her friend,
Beam.

- Oh, yeah.

So let's putting up
Beam's page.

Who's Beam?
Let's look at these pictures.

- Ah!
- Whoa.

Same bird with the string.

- Why would that be
on her page?

That's weird.

- I feel like we should
message her.

- Yeah, that's supposed to be,
like, her close friend.

- "Hey, Beam." All right.

So let's just go through
Cherry's Facebook page

and take a look at her posts.

- Here's a picture of her,
I guess?

- Mm-hmm.
- In warrior--

- That looks like the
same outfit she sent to Will.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure.

And here's a picture of her

in sort of regular
street clothes.

- Mm-hmm.
- She's got bunch of comments.

Most of them are in Thai.

Oh, wait a second.
Here's one in English.

"Will u be my sunshine heart?"
- Justin?

- And then--look, another one.

Michael says,
"Beautiful, heart, heart."

So who are
these random white guys

commenting on this girl's page?

Are they also talking to her?
- Mm.

- And are they also sending her
money to buy costumes?

- Let's ask Justin and Michael.

- Yeah,
let's talk to these guys.

Okay, here's a message
for Justin.

I'm gonna copy/paste that.

I'm gonna send it
to the other guy, Michael.

All right, sent.
What else do we have?

Let's just log
into his account, I guess,

and go through their messages.
- Mm-hmm.

- Okay, now we're logged
into Will's page

and here is
their conversations.

Wait, what is this?
- Ooh?

- He said, "Can you call me?
I haven't heard from you.

You haven't told me
what's going on."

She said, "I have problems
with someone.

"I have to clear first.

About money. Crying."
Strange.

- Wait, you don't think that
that's fishing for something?

"I'm having money problems"?
- Mm.

- Wait, Beam messaged back.
- Whoa, she did.

She said okay.

"Cool.

"We were wondering
about your friend Zo Mari.

Are you guys close?"

- You know, they both had that
same damn bird on their pages.

What if Beam and Zo Mari/Cherry
are the same?

- Well, we're gonna have to
find that out eventually, so.

[notification chimes]
- Uh, she responded.

- "Of course.
I know her more than herself."

- Of course she does.
'Cause it's her.

Can she Zoom?

- "Great.

Can you meet us
in a Zoom call?"

- Feel like she's gonna
be like,

"Actually, I'm just about
to go into work,

so unfortunately, I cannot."
[notification chimes]

- Oh.
- [gasps]

- She says, "I'm driving
so can you wait 15 minutes?"

"Okay, sure."

- You believe her?
- Yeah.

I think she's gonna call us.

She didn't want to talk to us,

she wouldn't have responded
right away.

- She's gonna drive
right on over to disappear-land

and vanish into thin air.

- All right, so let's go back
to their messages.

I mean,
he's calling her a lot.

- I mean,
he's calling somebody.

We don't know if it's her.

- For, like,
almost three days,

he's called her, like, a lot
and she never answered.

- She must not have been
responding to him

this whole time
and now he's blowing her up.

- He paid another $24 he sent.

Whoa, he sent a lot of money.
This was $136.

She said, "Thank you so much."

and he said, "You're welcome,
feeling any better?"

- And she said, "You don't
have to send money for me

any more like that."

- And he said, "Why?"

- "I'm afraid you think
I'm fooling you."

Do you think that this
is an admission of guilt?

- Interesting.

And then I guess he got
the pictures she sent.

- Uh-huh.

Doesn't that look like
the same pictures?

- You mean
from the profile pics?

- Yeah.
- Hold on. Let's see.

Yeah, that's definitely
that one, right?

- Mm-hmm.
- Five.

And that's six.
- Yep.

The person could've taken
a picture of all these pictures

on their Polaroid
and just printed it out.

- Or just downloaded them.
- Yes.

- And I have one of those
little Polaroid printers

that, like, you just sync
with your phone.

- Mm-hmm.
[notification chimes]

- Oh, what was that?
- Ooh. [gasps]

- Beam.

- "Sorry, can't talk now.
Maybe later."

Spoiler alert:
I'm not surprised.

Now she's just gonna disappear.

- We'll just have to see
how it goes.

- Something weird is going on.

I really think
Beam could be Cherry

and maybe she's feeling bad

because she knows she's not
the girl in the pictures

and she knows

that he's really falling
for the girl in the pictures.

- Could be a possibility.

Either way, Will is considering

moving to a very faraway,
distant place

to be with this girl.
- Mm-hmm.

- And even if Cherry is real,
everything else could be fake.

[upbeat music]

♪ ♪

[line trilling]

- Oh, Beam.
Cherry's friend.

Hello.
- Hi, hi.

- Hey, what's up, Beam?
Thank you for calling me.

So do you know the show
that I make, "Catfish"?

- Oh, okay.
Great.

We're trying to help a guy

who's been talking
to your friend Zo Mari.

- Oh, that's your best friend?

- Has she ever told you
that she's talking to a guy,

like, in the United States?

- Uh...

[dramatic music]

- No,
he--he bought her pictures,

but they've been talking...
- Oh.

- And I think he thinks
they're, like, maybe dating.

Is she--does she have, like,
a boyfriend?

- Does she have a boyfriend?

- Oh.
Oh, okay.

- Okay, bye.

♪ ♪

So weird.

I just got that call

in the midst of rehearsing
for "Dancing with the Stars."

- [laughs]
- Here's Jen.

So--

- That was sketchy,
first of all.

- That was weird, right?
- The friend is totally her.

- [sighs] I have no idea
what just happened.

[soft dramatic music]

♪ ♪

Ooh, we're back.

- COVID tested once again.

Proof.

♪ ♪

- Okay, so last night--
it was actually at rehearsal.

- Uh-huh.

- This phone starts making
a sound I don't recognize

and it's Beam.

- I thought she couldn't talk.

- Well, apparently,
she could talk.

Unclear how much of a sort
of language barrier there was,

but she said,
"Cherry's my best friend."

I was like, "Oh, okay, cool."

But essentially, I was like,
"Is Cherry in a relationship?"

and she paused,

she didn't really answer
right away,

and then she said,
"Do you want to buy pictures?"

But I said, "No, no, no,

"I want to know
if she's got a boyfriend.

Is she in a relationship?"

And that's when I got
the classic,

you know, "I'm sorry,
I don't know, I gotta go."

and she, like--and it ended
weirdly and abruptly.

- So we don't know
if Cherry has a boyfriend,

we don't know
if Cherry's talking to Will,

and we don't have any pictures.

- I'm also not convinced
of Cherry and Beam--

[sighs]
aren't the same person.

The more I think about it,

the more I think
you could be right.

- Plus we still don't know
who picked up that money.

Was it someone born in 1963?
What was with that receipt?

- All right,
let's get Will back.

♪ ♪

- [whispering] We've
got something to show you.

[bell chimes]
- Hey, guys.

- Yo.
- Will.

- What is up, man?
- Nothing much, man.

Just, you know, nervous.

Didn't get much sleep
last night.

You know, I hope this is her.

I'm hoping for
the fairy tale ending.

You know, now,
I want my happiness, you know?

I want my happy ending.

- Well, we don't have
any answers yet,

but let me show you
what we found.

- Okay.

- We did go
to Cherry's Facebook page.

- Mm-hmm.
- Zo Mari.

To just look a little bit
more closely

at who's commenting
on these pictures.

Obviously,
a lot of them are in Thai

and we're not really sure
what they say,

but there are
a couple comments.

One here from Justin

that says,
"Will u be my sunshine heart."

[suspenseful music]

And then again, here's another
one from someone named Michael.

"Beautiful, heart, heart."
Who are these guys?

We messaged both of them.

Neither of them have responded.
- Mm-hmm.

- So that just sort of made us
wonder, like,

is it possible that she flirts
with Western men

who obviously are into her
and might it be possible that

like you, those guys often want
to be helpful

and win her heart with money,
gifts?

- Oh, man, Nev, now
you taking me back down again.

- Well, buckle up.
We still have more to go.

- Oh, God.
- Okay.

So the last thing we looked
at on Cherry's page

was this photo that she posted
of a receipt

for, like,
some weird exchange of money.

- The receipt was just kind
of weird.

Like, the date says 1963.
- Yeah.

- I don't know
if it's a birthday

or if her mom picked up
that transaction,

but, like,
why would it say 1963?

- I mean, do we think you're
talking to a 57-year-old?

- I hope not,
but it's possible.

- And on that post,
we noticed Beam had commented.

So we just wanted to see
who this Beam girl was.

And they're very similar
in their vibe and location.

I messaged her.

I asked her if--
are you good friends with Zo

and she said, "Of course.
I know her more than herself."

And I asked her
if she could talk.

All of a sudden, she says,
"Sorry, I can't talk now.

Maybe later."

I went to a dance rehearsal

and I got a video call
as you can see here.

- Mm-hmm.
- From her.

And it was her.
We talked.

And she spoke English.

Not great, but pretty well.

And I said, "Hey, you know,
we're making this show,

"we're trying
to help our friend.

He's been talking
to your friend Zo Mari."

And she said, "Oh, yeah.

Zo Mari--
that's my best friend."

And then when I sort
of asked her about Zo Mari

on her having a boyfriend,

she got weird and asked me
if I was trying to buy photos,

which of course was also
sort of strange

and then said she had to go.

And it just left me
super-confused

because sometimes,
that's just a friend

sort of not wanting

to put their friend's business
out in the world

and that's fair,
but sometimes it's also--

- Covering up.
- Right.

- You and Beam have never
spoken one-on-one.

- Mm-mm.
No.

- And the fact that Beam
is acting so strange

makes us wonder,
"Is this, like,

some scam thing that goes on
we just don't know about?"

Because the fact
that you've sent her money

for these costumes and
she's never sent you a picture

of herself
in the actual costume

suggests that maybe she's not
actually taking pictures

and sending them to anyone.

Something's up with this girl.

- I was very enthusiastic
yesterday

when we first heard the story.

I was like,
"Oh, my God, this is her."

And based on the phone calls
and the messages,

like, it felt really good.

But then a weird conversation
with Beam

and the evidence
that we found, like,

it's just hard for me
to know exactly

what Cherry's intentions are.
- Mm-hmm.

- ♪ Trying all the time ♪

♪ Code for everything ♪

- I'm all over the place
right now,

'cause, like,
it could be a hustle.

It could be anything,
you know?

I'm just so lost and confused.

- ♪ Any little thing
you want ♪

♪ Any little thing at all ♪

- I'm just as confused as you.

It really is 50/50.
There's no guarantee.

And if you haven't been able
to get Cherry to show her face,

how are we gonna be able
to get that to happen?

- I'm just so lost
and confused.

♪ ♪

- I'm all over the place
right now.

I'm just so lost and confused.

- I'm just as confused as you.

And how are we even going
to get Cherry to show her face

if you haven't been able
to get that to happen?

- I guess we just ask.
[notification chimes]

She just messaged me
literally right now.

- I was like--
I thought it was our computer.

- Yeah.
- What was that?

- She just said,
"I'm okay now,

so don't get mad
or think a lot, okay?"

- What was your last message
to her?

- This morning when I woke up,
I said,

"Morning. I just woke up.
Hope you been doing okay."

- Okay, and so she said,
"I am okay."

- Well,
it's showing she's active.

Should I go ahead and--
- Message her back.

- Message her back.
- Yes, okay.

- I mean,
who are we talking to?

Is it Beam?

Is it Cherry?
It could be anybody.

"Hey, did Beam tell you that
someone reached out to her?

"I asked a show
to help me contact you

and find out who you are."
[chuckles]

- Hopefully,
she's not easily offended.

- "Beam told me
that a strange man from TV

was asking questions
about me like that."

So say, "That strange man
was a guy named Nev.

He just wants to help us--"
- Connect?

- Connect. Great.
[notification chimes]

- Oh, she's reading 'em-
reading 'em.

She's on.

- Okay, yeah, you can send
that now, I guess.

Oh, oh, she's--oh.

"Hah."
Okay, interesting response.

"Now?"
- Yes.

- Say, "Now would be great."

- She's gonna say,
"I'm busy now.

I'm going to sleep now."

- "But it's very late."
- Yeah, but you're up.

- "We have different times,
right?"

Yes, but it doesn't have to be
for very long.

Yeah, that's good.

What does that mean?
Like, nervous?

Like, "Ahh"?

"Yes, please."

both: "But."

- Uh-oh.

- "I need
to take a bath first."

- [groans]
At 3:30 in the morning?

- Should I say,
"How much time you need?"

- This is the segue.
This is how they disappear.

[suspenseful music]

- I obviously would prefer
if she could just do it now.

Yeah, that's good.

Oh--oh!
Here we go.

I'll text you the link
right now.

[notification chimes]

Send that to her and say,
"Here's our Zoom."

[notification chimes]
All right.

What do you think?
You think she's gonna do it?

- Let's see.

- Oh--uh-oh.

Wait a second.
Now what?

"If you see me,
I hope you still like me."

- Uh-oh.
- What does she mean by that?

- I mean, you know, obviously,

for someone who does a lot
of makeup and cosplay,

I can understand her
being nervous

that your expectations
of what she'll look like

not matching
with what she would look like

sort of fresh out of the bath.

- Okay.
- Uh-huh.

- I mean, I think when and
if she comes into the Zoom,

you gotta be ready
for anything.

- Feels that way right now.
- Yeah.

- I have no clue what's about
to happen.

- We've seen kind
of this situation before

where this guy thought he was
talking to a girl in Asia.

- Mm-hmm.
- And it did not turn out well.

- Oh, man.
- I'm not gonna lie to you.

I'm, like, low-key scared.

- Oh, she's typing,
she's typing.

- [gasps]
- She said she's ready.

Oh, my God.
- Are we ready?

I don't know if I am.

Who is this person gonna be?

We don't know who it is.
It could be anyone.

I have a feeling it's gonna be
the same girl, Beam,

that comes back on here again.

♪ ♪

What are you thinking?

- I have no idea what--
I'm not thinking at all.

I'm adapting.
[chuckles]

- She should be joining us
at any moment.

- Are you prepared for her not
to look like Cherry?

- Uh, I mean, it changes
the whole ballgame, man.

You know?

It's a bald-faced lie.
I don't know. Oof.

- I just don't know what
to expect

and normally, I feel like
we have some kind of idea

of what's gonna come in here.

- I don't know what to expect.
I'm nervous.

I don't know what's about
to pop up.

I'm, like,
so clueless right now.

[bell chimes]
- Oh, ooh.

Oh, uh, hello?

Cherry?

- Can you hear me?
- Yeah.

[whispering]
I just saw her face.

- [whispering]
I saw her face, too.

- [normally] I can't tell.
Is that Beam?

- [gasps]

- [normally] Take your time.
- Okay.

♪ ♪

[groans softly]

- Hi.
- Hi.

♪ ♪

Cherry,
is that you under there?

- [chuckles]
Why are you so shy?

- Should we all do that?

- All right, everyone do it.
- Yeah.

And then when you're ready,
we'll take them down.

- Okay.

- One, two, three.

It's really you.
- [chuckles]

- Hi.
- Hi.

- [chuckles]
- What's up?

- It's her, man.
[chuckles]

- Hello, Will.
- Hey, Cherry.

- I can't believe it,
I can't believe it.

I mean, I didn't know
if you were going to be you.

- I'm just so happy.
This is so nice.

- I'm so happy.

- Please, please, please.

- Why are you so nervous
to see Will?

- Why?
- Yeah, why?

- You're so pretty.

- Right.

In your photographs,

you have your makeup
and you have your Photoshop,

but on video,
you look different.

- But you're still very,
very beautiful.

- Yeah.

- I like what I see.
[chuckles]

Still look good.

- [chuckles]

Very beautiful.

- Oh, my God.
- [chuckling]

- You had nothing
to be worried about, Cherry,

because he thinks
that you're amazing.

But can you tell us more
about you?

Do you live alone?

- Are you dating anyone
in Thailand?

Do you have a boyfriend?

- No, I don't have
any boyfriends now.

- Yeah.
- Yes. [chuckles]

- Do people call you Cherry
or do people call you Zo?

- Rujapha.
- Rujapha is my real name.

[chuckling]
- You taught me now to say it.

- Yes.

- You gotta teach me how
to speak Thai.

- So you want to speak Thai?

- I'm willing to learn,
I'm willing to learn.

- I wanna ask you though,
Cherry, you know,

Will has been very generous

sending money for costumes
and things like that.

- Will, Cherry is a strong,
independent woman.

[laughter]

- So this is nice, though,

that finally,
you can look at Will

and you guys can talk
and see each other.

- Oh, he's definitely staring
at you.

- [chuckles]
Oh, okay.

- He's definitely staring
at you.

- He likes to look at you.
- She looks good, man.

- Yeah, she's beautiful.

- Aww.
- [chuckling] I'm shy.

- [chuckles]
I don't even know what to say.

- Will, go ahead.
I mean---

- Shower it on.

- I'm excited to see you.

You know,
I'm coming to Thailand

once this whole corona's
stopped and the quarantine.

And I'm gonna come see you now.

- Hopefully,
soon Will can come visit you.

- Um, I--I think--
I just--um--

- Oh, sure.
All right, Will.

We'll bring you back
in a minute.

- All right.
Don't take too long, now.

- No more men.
Goodbye to the men.

- Oh, girl time?

- What's going on?

- Oh.

- Oh, sure.
All right, Will.

We'll bring you back
in a minute.

- Goodbye to the men.
- Girl time?

- What's going on?

- Oh.

- Mm-hmm?
- Like...

A lot.

- Mm-hmm.

- Mm-hmm.

- Mm-hmm.

- Yeah.

I don't know if you know
what it means to be thirsty,

but--[chuckling]
here in America,

when we say someone is thirsty,

it means they're just doing
too much too fast.

- Mm-hmm?
- And Will is being thirsty.

- Yes.

- Sometimes,
you just need space.

And that's okay.
- Yes.

- But do you feel like you
like him?

That you could like him
in a romantic way?

- Oh, uh...

- Yeah.

Friends first and then
see where things go,

but take things slowly.

- Yes.
- Okay.

So we can help.

We'll tell him.

I don't think that, um,

if you're worried
about hurting his feelings,

I don't think that
that will hurt his feelings.

I think it's important that you
tell him exactly what you want

so that he's clear

and so that he's not pushing
too hard.

Who knows?

Maybe when you meet him,
you might want to kiss him,

but it shouldn't feel like you
have to.

- Yes.

- Oh, hello.

He's back.
- [chuckles]

- We kicked the men out.
- Yes, please.

Hi.
- [chuckles]

- What did I miss?

- Basically,
Will is doing too much.

He's being thirsty.
- Mm.

- She feels like
he's going too fast.

- Okay.

- She wants
to slow things down,

start off as friends.

She thinks she could maybe
like him like that.

- Yeah, but, right.
It's too soon to tell.

- Too soon.

- Okay, so let's get Will on

and we'll help him understand
that he needs to just...

- Mm-hmm.
- Take it easy.

- Calm down.
- Yeah.

- How do you say that in Thai?
Calm down?

- [speaks Thai]
[chuckles]

- [speaks Thai]

- Yes, yes.
[speaks Thai]

- Mm-hmm.

- All right,
so let's get Will back in here.

- Yes, please.

[bell chimes]
- There he is.

- So Will.
- Yes, ma'am?

- Okay, you know
girl's perspective.

Well, I talked to Cherry.
- Mm-hmm.

- We had a little sideline
girls chat

and Cherry just feels like

things are moving
a little too fast.

- She wants to
slow things down.

- Fair enough.

- Obviously, I shared with her

that you're very excited
about her

and you really, you know,
want to meet her.

- Right, and she feels excited
about you.

- Yeah.

- She just wants to make sure
you understand

not to put any expectations

on how the first time
you'll meet her will go.

Just--
- Take it down a notch.

- Yeah.

And right now, maybe just give
her some space sometimes.

- Okay.
Fair enough.

- She would love
to start with, like,

a really strong friendship
and see where that could go.

- Okay.
- So it's good, it's good.

- Yeah.
- Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

- Right.
- That's not bad.

- That's great.

You know,
it could've been worse.

- Hey, I'm still in the game.

I'm not on the bench yet.
So yeah, I'm cool with it.

- Here we go.
- Right.

- Yeah, 100%.
[chuckling]

- I explained to her
what thirsty means,

so if she calls you thirsty,
she knows what it means now.

- Okay.
[laughter]

- All right, well,

I'm so happy that we were able
to help.

You guys seem great,
and I'm very happy for you.

So hopefully,
you'll just keep talking

with a new understanding
of each other

and what you're expecting.

We can go a little slow,
you know?

Keep building, planning, maybe,

for a trip some time
in the future.

When it works for both of you.

And take this friendship
and see where it goes.

I think it could be
really great.

- I'm definitely on board.
- [chuckles]

- Make sure you send us a video
from Thailand

whenever you get there.

- I definitely will, man.
That's a promise.

- Will is looking up
his tickets

as soon as we get off of this.

- Just calm down, all right?
[laughter]

- Thank you very much.
- Thank you.

- Yes.
- Bye.

- Bye.

[upbeat pop music]

- ♪ Don't go too fast ♪

♪ Take it slow, take it slow ♪

♪ Ooh, whoa, oh ♪

♪ Ooh, whoa,
oh ♪

- Tam. I met a woman name

Jamina on Plenty of Fish.

- We soulmates.
- Hmm.

Doesn't that look like her?

Look at the tattoo.
What the [bleep]?

- I randomly got that text.

- She said she'd beat me up.

- That's the worst possible
thing you can find.

She blocked you.

- This is making me want
to throw up.

- Fingers crossed she shows up.

[bell chimes]
Oh.

- [chuckles in disbelief]
- Wow.

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