Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 25 - Eric & Lianna - full transcript
Eric falls for Lianna but despite living nearby, she is a no-show three times. Nev and Kamie uncover a rabbit hole that runs deeper than they could have imagined.
- Eric and Lianna had been talking,
and he fell hard for her.
- I opened up to you, and, like, who the hell are you?
- She stood you up three times.
- Even when you block her,
then she comes at you from someone else.
- Yeah.
- At what point does it become--
- Harassing? - Yeah.
- Oh. She's typing. - [gasps]
Ahh!
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Seeing is believing ♪
- Back to business.
- Hello. - Hey. There she is.
Whoa. Your braids, wow.
- It's a cultural reset... - I love it.
- Is what it is honestly.
- Anyway, I have to make sure we stay on schedule today
because right after we film, I have to go rehearse
for "Dancing with the Stars."
I got to learn my dance.
- Are you going to show me some dance moves or what?
- I'll show you, like, a little bit
of what I learned yesterday. It's all about, like,
bah, bah, you know, it's, like,
it's that cha-cha-cha, cha-cha-cha.
- Wow.
- And then you hit, and then you do,
like a rond de jambe, ball change.
It's really--it's hard. - A rond de jambe?
The terminology.
[laughs]
- Anyway, so let's get into this.
We got an email from Eric.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Eric.
"I'm 29, and I live in Buffalo, New York,
"with my son.
"I'm a full-time dad, so I haven't been
"in any serious relationships for a while,
"but I have been talking to this girl named Lianna
"for the past five months.
"She friended me out of the blue.
"She was really cute, so I messaged her,
"and we started talking.
"She's super sexy but mainly a really good listener.
"She actually cares about what's going on in my life.
"I honestly haven't had a connection like this
in a while, so I was excited for it."
- ♪ Gravity has caught up to me ♪
"I fell hard for her.
"She was everything I was looking for.
I tried to meet her multiple times,
"but she stood me up every time.
"I suggested we video chat,
but that hasn't happened either."
- ♪ Because I don't want to fall from the great height ♪
- "Then her friend got involved,
"and it was really weird.
"This girl is making it impossible to get together
or for me to move on."
- ♪ She's a killer ♪
- "We're still talking."
- ♪ Psycho vanilla ♪
- "But I need to find out what her deal is once and for all."
- ♪ Lead role in my dreams ♪
- "She's driving me crazy."
- ♪ Because I don't want to fall ♪
♪ From the great heights ♪
- "Thanks for your help, Eric."
- ♪ But my grip is failing ♪
- All right. I've texted Eric.
- It's the friend.
- Well, yeah, I mean, anytime a catfish has a friend
that comes into the situation, you got to be suspicious.
- I guess we have to find out.
[computer chimes] both: Oh.
- I heard a ding. - Hello!
- What's happening? - How you doing, Eric?
You said you have a kid, right? How old is your kid?
- He just turned ten on the 10th.
- Wow. - Ohh.
- He stays with you full-time?
- Yeah. Me and his mom, we co-parent very well.
She's very a part of his life every day,
so we do it together.
- That's great. So we saw your email.
Tell us more about Lianna.
Is that how she says it?
- Yes, it is.
She's a hairstylist. She's 24.
She's from New Hampshire, which matches her number,
because her number is a New Hampshire number.
- Does she live in New Hampshire?
Or does she live in Buffalo? - She lives in Buffalo.
She's been here about a year and a half now she told me.
- How did you meet? - She added me on Facebook.
I went right ahead and messaged her,
and she was gorgeous, so, like, why not?
She messaged me back and said, "Oh, I thought you were cute.
Sorry." So from there, I knew I was in.
- Did you have mutual friends or anything?
- We had a few, like, 12 or something.
- Do any of your friends actually know her?
- No, I've asked.
- Okay, so you did ask. Okay.
So you messaged her, and then how, like, what--
how did that go?
- Probably within a couple days, I had her number.
We started having phone calls.
- And how were your phone calls?
- They were actually pretty captivating.
Like, a lot of what she does is family orientated.
You know, she's real involved with her family,
and I told her about my son, told her about my work.
We shared some things about our lives with each other.
She had a way of, like, just making me think differently.
She really got into, like, me thinking my future
and what I'm trying to do,
and she was just very supportive.
I feel like she's a good soul.
I was easily able to connect with her,
and it's weird, because usually I don't even
open up like that to people.
- Yeah, and it was a girl's voice.
- Yes, yes. It was a girl's voice for sure.
Within about two weeks of talking to her,
I wanted to meet up.
The plan was for her to come over,
and then we were going to go out to Delaware Park.
- So she had your address.
- Yes, and then poof, just gone.
After, like, two hours of waiting, she just blocked me.
- Hmm. - Hmm.
- But you guys did obviously start talking again,
so how did she come back from that?
What was her, like--
- She unblocked me,
because she had reached out to me again
saying she was sorry and giving me
an explanation for what had happened,
something about her mom, you know, her mom was sick.
She needed to go over there and take care of that.
- She didn't know her mom was sick
before she made plans to come over?
- Exactly. - Right.
- So you guys start talking again.
Was there another plan to meet up again?
- Yeah. - And what happened this time?
- You know, she's getting ready,
da-da-da-da-da, we're good.
I'm like, "What's your ETA?" And she's like, "10 minutes,"
and then boom, her phone goes off,
and I don't hear from her for like a week.
- So she ghosted you again. - Yes.
- And yet somehow you're still involved with this woman.
- That's where Maria comes into play.
- That's Lianna's friend you mentioned. Maria.
- Maria.
- After the second time, I block Lianna.
So about a week goes by.
I start messaging with this girl, Maria, online.
- She messages you first?
- No, it was me. I messaged her.
- How did you find her? - I just happened to see her
as people I should know, and I added it.
- Mm.
- She immediately brought up Lianna
and that she can't talk to me, because she knows Lianna,
and she wouldn't do that to Lianna.
- I mean, if she's friends with Lianna,
it would make sense that she might pop up
on the people you may know. - Yeah.
She was trying to tell me to give Lianna another chance.
- It's weird. Had Maria friended you, I would be like,
"Oh, Maria and Lianna are the same person."
- Yeah.
- But the fact that you friended her...strange.
- So what happened after that?
- Maria said, "Okay, I'm coming to Buffalo.
I'm going to bring Lianna to you."
I unblock Lianna, and we made plans.
Maria was going to drop her off at my house.
The day comes. These girls are on their way,
and she says that Maria pulled over,
because she was fighting with her boyfriend.
So Lianna says, "Listen.
I'm just gonna walk to you."
I went outside, and I looked both ways.
And I didn't see her anywhere.
So I went back inside, and then I didn't even call her,
and she didn't even call me.
- Wow.
- So please tell me you have not talked to her since.
- She contacted me about a month ago,
and I kind of fell right back into it to be honest.
- She stood you up three times.
- Yeah.
You know, she was saying she'd give me another chance.
So at that point, like, I did invest time into you,
and, like, I told her some things that, like,
I don't want to have to tell another girl, you know?
- Sure. - Like, it's comforting.
- Yeah. - So, like, you're coming to me
with your boo-hoos and your sorries,
and yes, you're adorable, so okay, fine.
- So you like the chase. - I do.
I do definitely enjoy chase.
She's real enticing.
Like, for some reason, I feel, like, drawn.
- So let's see this girl.
Can you plug your phone in and show us her profile?
- Okay. Hold on.
Okay. You guys have my screen now, right?
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Oh. Whoa. - Whoa.
- Hey. Oh, my goodness. - [laughs]
Couldn't you give a warning
before you show full vag, please?
Would be great.
- Sorry, bro. - I see.
Steamy. Okay.
- All right. So there she is looking cute.
- You want me to just flip through them?
- Yeah, you could swipe. - Yeah.
- Okay. Cute.
- Okay. It's going to get graphic.
Go quick. Go quick. - Okay.
- Quick. - Okay.
- Whoa. - Ah!
- [laughs]
[laughter]
- There's a first for everything on this show.
I love it. - Lord.
- You really sent her multiple angles.
- [coughs] - [laughs]
- Okay, Eric.
- Now, that was an experience.
Can you go back to your text messages?
And I just want to see how you guys interact with each other.
- Okay. - You guys talk pretty often.
- Oh.
- This is the last time she said,
"I'm going to come with Maria, and we're going to see you."
"What is a good time for us to visit?"
"At 4 we can do something." "Okay. Sounds good. See you."
Now that's 5:00. Already she's an hour late.
We are leaving in a few. "She had to tell her man
"where she was going and took him home.
"I'm not flaking. I'm actually excited.
I'm going to be there in, like, 25 minutes."
Now it's 6:46.
"Right down the street. I'm walking.
"I'm going to hug you and wrap my legs around you,
and I'm not wearing underwear."
Is this how she talks on the phone?
- No, you know what? She's not really like this on the phone.
- So you were like, "Where are you?"
And she said, "Up the street. You should see me walking."
- But you would have seen her coming down the street.
- Yeah. - And then nothing.
She just disappeared for the night.
Unbelievable.
- She obviously was never there.
- That's how I feel.
- Something is definitely going on with this chick.
- Honestly, if that's not her,
I'm going to feel violated, you know?
I opened up to you, and, like, you're--
Who the hell are you?
- Wow. Okay. Well, now I need to know.
- Send us her phone number. Send us her Facebook page.
- Not the [bleep] pics.
I don't know if Google image search
will get us the correct results.
- [laughs]
- Let us do some digging, see what we can find
and hopefully get a little bit closer
to figuring out what is going on with this Lianna lady.
- All right. Thank you, guys. - Good to meet you, man.
- Nice to meet you guys too. Bye.
- Something is wrong. That whole walking,
I'm walking, I'm walking now,
I am on your street, the balls.
- I know. - Who is this person?
- I don't know. We got to figure it out.
- She can't keep toying with people this way.
We've got to stop her.
[funky percussive music]
- So we got an interesting situation here.
Eric and Lianna had been talking
for a little over six months now.
It looks like a cut-and-dry catfish situation.
- Mm-hmm. - She friended him on Facebook.
He thought she was cute. They started chatting.
She says, "I'll meet up with you," disappears.
And then he sent, like, five dick pics, like,
at the same time. - Different angles.
He was like, "This angle.
This angle. This angle."
- He did, like, the 360, like, full...
- [laughs]
A virtual tour.
- All right. So let's see what we got here,
because I'm ready to crack this case wide open.
So he sent me an email.
"Hey, guys, this is a little the info I have."
It's a Lianna Bressca, phone number, Facebook page,
and then Maria Camsso.
Okay. And then the pictures.
So let's-- I kind of just want to start
with the pictures if that's okay?
All right, so I'm going to start with this pic.
[tense music]
No hit. All right. Next pic.
All right. Again no hit on this.
Man, no hits.
All right, and the last one.
Oh!
We got a hit. - [gasps]
- ♪ We got a hit ♪
♪ We got a hit ♪
- Oh, my God. Click it.
- I can't believe on the last one.
- Click it.
- All right, let's check this out.
Oh.
- Ahh!
- Why are there so much vagina in this episode?
- I don't know. - And another penis.
What is going on?
- I'm--I'm done. Listen. I'm open to a lot of things.
- Here it is. Look. Here it is.
That's her.
- [gasps]
- That is her.
Kayala [bleep]. "In your dreams, bitch."
Ooh, what's this? Who is this Kayala [bleep]?
- [gasps]
- Oh, God. It's this thing again.
- Again with the vagina.
Please, can we get a vagina alert chime?
- Oh, wait a second.
Oh, it wants to download something.
- "Teen with big tits craving for [bleep]."
Get off of this [bleep].
We're going to get a [bleep] virus.
But that name. - Kayala [bleep].
Let's look that up.
♪ ♪
There's a Twitter.
- Her name seems to be to be Kayala [bleep].
- Okay. Here's her Twitter. SpongeBob.
-It's different than the link.
She changed her name from Kayala [bleep] to kprincess.
- It's private.
Let's check out her mentions.
- What are these conversations?
- "Send me your addy."
"This got me [bleep] babe."
I mean, so okay, so whatever she's posting,
it's obviously of very sexual nature.
This definitely feels very, like,
camgirl, OnlyFans vibe-y.
- But you wouldn't put that as your picture.
- SpongeBob? - You would have a real photo.
Who's going to [bleep] pay for that?
- Let's search for kprincess.
- Oh. - Oh.
- Oh, jackpot.
- There's an Instagram.
SpongeBob. Again with the fake avatar and...
- I can't.
- Obviously someone is associated
with those profiles, goes by Kayala,
but that doesn't necessarily mean that she's the girl
in the pictures.
Is someone stealing her photos
and using them on this weird Tumblr or something?
But let's run the phone number...
- Yeah. - And see if that comes back
to anything.
- Maybe to a Kayala.
- Kalynn? - Kalynn?
- Kalynn [bleep].
- Also known as Kalynn Marie.
- Marie.
Very similar to Lianna's friend, Maria.
- Mm.
- All right. Let's check this out.
Oh, yeah, and look, a Facebook page.
[tense music]
- Oh, SpongeBob.
Kayala had SpongeBob as her avatars, didn't she?
Yeah, see, SpongeBob.
It's her.
- It's definitely not the girl in the pictures.
So for the phone number that he's been speaking
to Lianna on,
it comes back to this girl, Kalynn.
She's 29, and we found a weird connection
between our likely other fake profiles
associated with the images of Lianna
but under another name, Kayala.
- Mm-hmm.
- Which is similar to Kalynn,
and there's a SpongeBob connection.
Is Kalynn taking pictures of this other girl
and making all these fake profiles?
- This can't be a coincidence.
- She is our prime suspect.
Let's go to Lianna's Facebook page
and just take a look at it. All right.
So there's not a lot on here that we can see.
2,000 friends.
- She's friends with a lot of guys.
- Like, there's so many guys.
I wonder if she's talking to any of these other guys.
Yeah, let's message this guy.
Sent. I mean, there's also--
let's just check out Maria's Facebook page.
So this is Lianna's friend that Eric was also talking to.
Okay. Here's Maria. - Mm.
- Because this could be a fake page too.
- True. - Right?
- She's friends with a lot of guys,
and so is the Lianna account.
- Check this out. There's even more comments, right?
I've seen the guy, like, Andy [bleep]
kind of comments with the most consistency.
Let's message him.
Okay. Sent. Ooh, look at this.
This guy Danny wrote, "Mine" with a heart,
and then she wrote back, "Always" hearts.
Let's send him a message.
Sent.
- This is supposed to be the girl who had a boyfriend
when she was driving Lianna to come and see Eric?
- I mean, maybe Danny is her boyfriend,
but it feels like what we're dealing with here
is some bull[bleep].
- I'm going go out there on a limb that Eric
is not talking to the girl in the pictures whatsoever.
This is somebody completely different,
and I think that whoever this person is,
they're also Maria.
Clearly this person doesn't want to be found.
- Are these both fake,
and are they both run by the same person?
And is that person Kalynn?
It just feels like this is going to go
from private parts to broken hearts.
♪ ♪
- Good morning, everyone, again
from me and the Smalls.
Biggie, guess what.
Today I went outside.
I got some treats.
He's like, "How could you?
You did all these things without me?"
No, don't leave. You want a treat?
Let's get a treat. Yeah.
[laughs]
Where is Nev?
[phone dings]
We have things to do.
[computer chimes]
Yo.
[computer chimes]
- So let's check and see if--
- Because you messaged a lot of people yesterday.
- Ooh, one message from Danny Brooklyn.
- He was the one talking to Maria
like he's her boyfriend.
He basically says, "Yes, you can talk to me,"
but he didn't give his number or anything,
so let's message him quickly and just say,
"Hello. Thanks for getting back to me.
Here's my number."
Okay. Sent. Let me text Eric and see where he's at.
- I think he's still holding out hope that, like,
this girl actually cares about him,
and maybe she does, but it's not looking great.
- Hey! - Hello.
- Hey, Eric.
- How you doing, man? What's going on?
- I had a rough start to my day.
Like, I threw up this morning.
- Is it, like, anxiety? - Yep.
Honestly, I'm still conflicted on,
you know, if it's real or not.
If everything checks out, I want to see her.
You know, I want to pursue this.
- All right. Well, look, yesterday
we did the best we could.
We found a lot of stuff.
- Okay.
- We searched as many photos of her that we could find,
and one of them shows up on this website.
It's called Tumbral.
It's not Tumblr, but it's called Tumbral,
and it seems to sort of aggregate different
Tumblr pictures.
I'm not really sure what to make of it, but clearly it's...
- Lianna.
- So we followed these links to see where they took us,
and, Kamie, I know you need the warning,
but there is some graphic content.
- Thank you. - So just prepare yourself.
You can see the picture is here,
and I'll scroll up just so you can get a sense.
There's pictures of other body parts
and things of that nature.
- Ohh, I saw it anyway.
- And so it's weird, because why is her picture
on what appears to be some sort of
amateur porn Tumblr page.
There is one comment from Kayala [bleep].
She says, "In your dreams, bitch."
So we did a search for Kayala [bleep].
Now, this brought us to a Twitter account.
There aren't any pictures of her,
but whoever had the Kayala [bleep]
Twitter profile at some point changed the name to kprincess.
So we kept searching, and we found this Instagram
for kprincess, and sure enough the name is Kayala again.
It's locked. It's private.
So all we could see is that she's using SpongeBob
as her avatar.
Not sure what that means, but okay.
Do you know anyone named Kayala?
- I don't. - Right.
That name doesn't ring any bells to you.
Now, it could have just as easily been
a fake account that someone started.
I'm not sure there's any way to really decipher that.
But who is posting them? Who is Kayala?
Is she the girl in the pictures?
How, if any, is there a connection
between her and Lianna?
We don't know yet.
- Ohh, wow.
- So and then we sort of though, "Okay.
Let's go back and do the phone number.
So we searched the phone number you have
and the one that you text,
and the first hit we got
was for someone named Kalynn [bleep].
Does that-- - Does that name ring a bell?
- No.
- Well, according to this,
there is a Facebook page linked to her info.
So here's Kalynn.
Kalynn is 29.
- You don't recognize this girl?
- No. No, I got no idea who that is.
- Right. You've never seen her before?
- No. None of that's ringing a bell.
- The one thing that jumped out at me
was that her background here is a SpongeBob photo.
So that made me think, "Okay. Wait a second.
And if you go back to the Instagram
and Twitter that we found, it's a picture of SpongeBob."
- Kayala and Kalynn are similar names.
They both have SpongeBob in their profiles.
I mean, it could just be, like,
a silly coincidence, but--
- Or not. - Or not.
- From how I'm looking at it, I got catfished.
- Yes, it's definitely not a good sign that
the phone number comes back to a different girl named Kalynn.
There doesn't seem to be any trace of, like,
a Lianna anywhere other than the Facebook page
that you're friends with.
- Well, I mean, that's kind of an answer in itself,
personally, you know?
- ♪ I only lie when I wish it was the truth ♪
- I know that it's, like,
a violation when this kind of thing happens,
and then the fact that, like--
- It's exactly how I feel.
- Right. You guys were sharing conversations.
You're sharing something personal with someone else,
not just words but, like,
physical photos of yourself.
- I fantasize that all my dreams come true ♪
- That--that hurts. It's been a [bleep] long time.
Like, what are you doing?
- I think that the most [bleep] up part about it to me
is the fact that this person went to the extent
of pretending like they were showing up.
This is not [bleep] okay.
- Yeah. - Yeah, you know, I was hopeful
that it was something, you know,
legit and something I could pursue,
but this is just some sick fantasy play out.
- Right. - It's embarrassing.
This is just their weird kink. I don't know.
It's not okay at all.
- ♪ I miss you but you do not miss me back ♪
- It's been a long time.
Like, what are you doing?
It's disrespectful. It's weird.
- Yeah. - I don't know.
I'm still interested in finding out who it really is.
You know, I'd like to know.
- Right.
Yeah. All right. So let's just finish
showing you what we found,
'cause there's only a little bit more.
So then we thought, "Okay, let's go look through
Lianna's Facebook page."
So, you know, we just sort of started
going through the comments,
and obviously it's mostly guys.
Some of them feel flirty.
We also went to Maria's page,
and it has a sort of similar vibe:
cute profile pictures, lots of comments from mostly guys.
So we sent some messages to some of those guys
just in the hopes that we might get to
talk to some of them, and one of them got back to us,
but he basically just said, like,
"Yeah, I've seen your show. What's up?"
And so I messaged him back asking if maybe he could talk,
but obviously I haven't heard back yet,
and so that's kind of where we left it.
- We just hit up all those guys,
but we never hit up Maria.
- Oh, that's true.
Maybe we should try reaching out to Maria.
- But assuming Maria and Lianna are the same,
and then we could be tipping off.
- Wait. Hold on a second. Time-out. Time-out.
I'm getting a phone call from Florida.
- Oh, not a good sign. - Well...
- Right off the bat. - Hello.
- Hey, it's Daniel. - Daniel?
- Off of Facebook. - Do you go by Danny Brooklyn?
- Yes, I do. I do go by Danny Brooklyn.
- Aha. So are you able to join a Zoom call?
- Yes, sir. - All right. Great.
I'll send you just a link right now. Okay?
- Sounds good. - Okay. Sent.
Hey, Daniel. - Oh.
- Hey, how's it going? - Quick introductions.
So Kamie over here, and this is Eric.
- Eric, what's up, man? - And we reached out to you
because we saw that you were friends with
and had commented on some of Maria's Facebook posts,
and we're curious what you knew about her.
- Yeah, so, she had added me as a friend on Facebook.
You know, we ended up starting to talk,
and we kicked it off,
and it was, like, endless nights,
you know, 7, 8 hours on the phone every day.
So we eventually got to the point where we wanted
to meet each other, and we go ahead and meet up.
"Oh, I'm on my way. I'm 5 minutes away.
I'll be there in 2 minutes,"
and then everything is blocked.
- And when you talked, did she ever mention her friend Lianna?
- Oh, yeah.
- I've been talking to Lianna
and pretty much the same exact story you just said.
She stood me up a couple times.
Then Maria got involved.
They talked me into trying to chill
with both of them it was supposed to be.
- Wow. Where are you from, Eric?
-Buffalo, New York.
- That's where Maria is from. - Ha!
- Yeah. [laughs]
- You know, it kind of hurt me.
I was so, so excited to see this person,
and out of the blue, this girl
Tracey messaged me on Facebook
stating that she was actually
behind the profile of Maria.
- Tracey? - Yeah.
- Not someone named Lianna or Kalynn?
- Nope.
- Who the hell is Tracey?
- Have you ever video chatted with Tracey?
- I mean, I've tried video chatting with Tracey,
but she's never actually showed her face,
and Tracey, she was like,
"You know, I have a lot of money.
"I came into a lot of money.
"Please let me take you out.
Let me buy you a house.
me buy you a car..." and... - Huh?
- Weird.
- This doesn't, like-- I mean--
- So you mean, so Tracey said
she is the one that was pretending to be Maria
and that she felt badly that she had lied to you
and that she had all this money,
and she wanted to sort of make it up to you.
- Exactly. I said, "If you want to get together,
let's get together," and again ghost.
You know, it really hurt,
all this ghosting and playing games,
and it's like mind games.
It's not fair to me.
It's not fair to me or anybody else.
- Yeah.
- You know, I really want to know,
what do you get out of this?
Like, why do you do this?
- You felt like you were making this super meaningful
connection with this girl, Maria,
and all the while, it sounds like
she was doing basically the same thing with Eric.
- Yeah.
- The thing that bothers me so much is,
like, even when you block her,
then she comes at you from someone else,
and she starts bothering you again.
It's, like... - Yeah.
- At what point does it become--
- Harassing. It's harassing.
- Yeah. - Even after you're like,
"I don't really want to talk to you,"
she's like, "Oh, I have a [bleep] ton of money.
I can give you money."
Like, how desperate is this person
for companionship or friendship?
How far are they willing to go to get it?
And, like, are they even recognizing
who they're hurting in the process?
- It's not fair. - All right.
Well, look, Danny, thank you for sharing all this with us.
If you could send us Tracey's profile
so that we can reach out to her.
- Of course. - I need to see what
this girl looks like.
- If you need anything else from me, I'm here.
- All right. Really appreciate it.
- Thanks, Danny.
Bye. What a sweetheart.
- Wow. Well...
- Obviously, I wasn't special.
- Makes you feel less alone maybe, like, a little--
- Yeah.
- Yeah, so what do you want to do, Eric?
- Well, what's the next move,
try and contact Tracey or Lianna?
- Yeah. I think we've got to talk to Tracey
or whatever her real name is,
because she's at the eye of the storm of this whole situation.
- Well, knock, knock, Tracey, open up.
- So I'm just waiting for him to send that profile,
because then we can message her.
- Oh, God.
I mean, who knows how many other guys
she's been talking to.
This could potentially be blowing up
her whole entire operation.
- Let's see. Hold on. Maybe he texted me here.
Oh, yeah, you know what?
- Oh. - He did text me.
Oh, there we go.
- Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
- He wrote, "I swear this was here last week.
"I think she deleted her profile.
This is what comes up now!"
- Wait, what?
The Tracey profile is gone.
What the [bleep]?
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- So the Tracey profile is gone.
What the [bleep]?
- What?
- So maybe she blocked him.
Maybe the page still exists; he just can't see it.
- I mean, look, the reality here is,
JUST because Lianna came clean to Danny as Tracey
doesn't mean that her real name is Tracey.
- Yeah. - Maybe she just has that
as another fake profile
so that she can come clean to guys
without the fear of them actually tracking her down
and, you know, doing something or about, to her or--
- Right. But if her name is Tracey,
none of this explains
the Kayala [bleep]
and then the Kalynn profile.
Is that all just not related?
- I don't know. I mean, the only person who can answer
that is Tracey, I guess.
- [sighs]
- We still have a phone number we can reach her through.
I mean, we know it's her, so we might as well
just text the number you have for Lianna, right?
- Yeah.
- So I'm going to send her another message now.
All right. I texted her. Let's see.
Okay. So she has her read receipts on,
so these have both been delivered,
but neither of them has been read.
- Share the screen.
- Right.
Oh. - Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
- She's typing.
Hold on. She must have stopped typing,
and now she's considering an edit perhaps
or whether she's going to send it.
- Or a lie. - Or blocking you.
- Right, or she's going to block me.
Tracey?
- Oh, yeah, 'cause she doesn't know that we know her name.
- Ooh. - I mean, I don't--
we don't even know if that's her name.
- Right.
[tense music]
I feel like the next message you send,
it's going to be green.
She's going to block.
♪ ♪
- Oh, she saw it. - Ooh.
♪ ♪
[gasps]
♪ ♪
- "I'm shocked he wants to meet me
when I thought all he wanted was hookups."
- You know, what kind of game is that?
- "You know that's BS."
♪ ♪
I'm not going to play her game.
- You tell her, Nev.
- Well, also, that's the act.
She's posing as a young, attractive woman
and flirting and engaging in sexual conversations.
She can't be surprised that,
yeah, of course you want to have sex with her.
That's been her--
- Angle. - Yeah.
- Right.
- "Okay, well, I guess you don't care..."
- Ultimatum time.
- "About Eric or anything,
so never mind."
- I--I feel like maybe if you sent the link in there
after the never mind part,
maybe she'll read that and maybe, you know?
- How about just like, "Last chance."
- Mm.
- And then I'll put the link.
- Eric, are you ready to talk to this girl?
- Yeah.
- You're going to have to lay down the law and tell her
what you expect from this moment forward.
- Okay.
- All right, sent.
- She has to read it to get to the link, right?
- Right. So if she reads it,
then either she starts typing or--
- Oh, my God, she read it.
- Okay. She read it.
♪ ♪
Uh! - Here she comes.
- Ooh...
♪ ♪
Come on. Come on.
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
[computer chimes] Uh!
- Here she comes.
- Ooh...
♪ ♪
Come on. Come on.
[computer chimes] - Oh.
- Hello. - Hello.
- Hi. - Hi.
- Hi. You're not the girl in the pictures,
and you're not Kalynn.
- No.
♪ ♪
- So you don't know a Kalynn?
'Cause your phone number traces back to her.
- No.
- Then is your name Tracey?
- Yes.
- Is that your real name?
- Yes. - And it's been you talking
to Eric this whole time?
- Yes.
I made the account,
like, the beginning of the pandemic.
I was bored.
I wanted people to talk to, but I wasn't--
like, I'm not somebody that was really trying to scam anybody
because I really did feel bad, you know?
- Which account are you referring to?
- See, the Lianna account was Eric,
but I ended up switching to the Maria account,
because the Lianna account got too many--
too many requests.
I was getting, like, 400 requests a day.
♪ ♪
- And those are the only accounts that you have?
- Yes.
- That's rude.
- Well, look, obviously we don't really know
anything about you,
so can you just tell us a little bit about
who you actually are.
- My name is Tracey. I live in New Hampshire.
I am actually 42 years old.
I don't know; I basically, like, help take care
of my handicapped uncle with my mother and stuff,
and my mom's sick too.
She's got Crohn's disease,
so I'm constantly helping them.
That is my life,
so I think I was trying to give myself a different life,
which was obviously not reality.
- And you're single?
You're not married or anything?
- No. - Children?
- No.
I can't have children.
- Is that something that you want?
- I want it all, but I'll never get that.
- Why-- - Why do you say that?
♪ ♪
- Because I don't go out.
I don't go out to even meet somebody, and I don't know.
Just I'm insecure.
- Why keep doing things to hurt him,
like telling him you're going to meet up with him
and blowing him off and then blocking him and...
- Because I was being stupid, because I really did want
to see him, but I couldn't see him as me.
- Look, we already talked to Danny,
one of Maria's boyfriends,
and Danny told us the same thing.
- Yes. - "I'm coming down the street.
I'm 5 minutes away. I'm 2 minutes away."
Why even bother with that
if you know you're not going to show up?
- I don't know.
- That is a game.
That is 100% a game.
- You're actively making plans to see these guys in person
and making it seem like you were on your way.
- Because that's all they want. They want to see you,
and then it's like, I wanted to keep them talking to me,
so it's like, "Okay, I will come see you."
You know?
- But you know it's not going to actually happen.
- I know. - So what is the end goal?
Like, what do you expect to get out of that?
- I don't know.
I didn't-- I wanted to get rid of this--
I wanted to get rid of it so many times.
I was getting myself more upset and depressed
even liking somebody, because then I'm like, "Okay.
Now I'm waiting all day for somebody to call me"
and all that.
It was, like, I'm more or less lonely.
Then I ended up started liking, like, especially Eric.
I ended up liking him.
And I was looking for somebody to be with, like,
have that connection and just vibes.
- I'm sure you feel that way right now,
because it's all in front of you,
but, like, honestly, I don't know
heads from tails of your stories,
except for that it's all a lie.
- Okay.
- Even though you are seemingly very self-aware
about different aspects of this,
I think that there are a lot of deeper issues
that need to be worked out internally.
Like, woman to woman, I just have a feeling
that you've been going through this
and feeling this for a really long time.
We need to shave off some of that insecure feeling,
because it's keeping you from being able to make true,
genuine relationships
and even just a relationship with yourself.
- Yeah. - Because how do you
honestly feel about yourself as a person?
- [chuckles]
Not that good.
- Obviously, I'm upset,
but, like, no one should have to feel this bad
about themselves that they need to do this.
- You say kind of a lot of the right things about knowing
that what you were doing was wrong
and feeling bad about it, but at the same time,
I don't think you really get just how hurtful
what you're doing is, and Eric--
- No, I do exactly know how hurtful it is,
because you're playing with people's emotions.
I understand that.
- You told us you only had two profiles,
but do you know how many other people
you've been leading on these past few months?
- I don't know.
- Well, what you could do is,
you could post on each of the profiles and say,
"This is who I am. I've been lying this entire time.
I'm sorry, and I apologize,"
so that way you can apologize to everyone.
- I was just going to deactivate, but...
- You're putting yourself out there,
but that's the point.
You need to give everybody involved
or affected by your lies the courtesy of the truth,
and putting yourself in a position to,
you know, reap what you sow
and be accountable is part of building up your confidence.
- You want me to do it right now?
- Yeah, let's do it. Right now. - Yeah.
- Let's just pull that Band-Aid off.
- You want to make a change.
- All right. - Okay. Here we go.
- Okay, so-- - I'm in Maria.
- All right. You're on Maria now.
Okay. So go to her profile. - Okay.
- And there we go.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- All right. Posted that one.
♪ ♪
- And now Lianna's Facebook page.
- Come on, Tracey. You can do this, girl.
- "I will no longer be using this account." Perfect.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- Okay, great.
- Yeah.
- How did that feel?
- It felt good.
- All right. Well, that's a good start.
You know, I don't think you seem like a bad person.
Sure, you've made some bad decisions.
I think most of us can say the same.
I know I feel better
knowing that you've done that on those pages.
Obviously, I'm happy that Eric now knows the truth,
and I'm hoping that you
won't continue doing this sort of thing,
and you'll learn from this and grow.
- Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, Eric.
- Thank you.
It wasn't all bad.
You know, we had some good talks.
You know, we had a little fun.
I'm glad I could be there for you
in whatever twisted way you needed,
but it wasn't okay to do, though.
- I know.
- You've done the right thing.
You did the right thing by coming here.
You did the right thing by making those posts
and being honest, and I think
that this is going to be a really freeing experience
for you moving forward, and I'm happy for that.
- Thank you.
- Good luck, Tracey.
- Bye. Thank you. - Bye.
- Bye.
- [exhales]
- So, you know,
I'm happy that this was a platform
for her to stop what-- you know, all this.
- All right. Well, look, man,
thanks for letting us help you out,
and good luck in hopefully your next relationship,
which be with a real person who treats you well.
- A baddy in Buffalo.
- Oh, yeah. - [laughs]
- [laughs]
All right. Thank you, guys.
- Bye. - Bye.
- ♪ Do you ever feel ♪
♪ Like it's all mine? ♪
♪ Will you ever feel ♪
♪ Like it's all fine? ♪
♪ ♪
- Scuba meets Renee on a virtual social network.
- She was the love of my life, but then one day, it was gone.
- She's thought about you. She found you again.
Like, she wants to be in your life.
- [gasps] Shut the [bleep] up.
- Wow. That almost makes the case that Renee is legit.
- I'm at the edge of my seat right now.
[computer chimes]
- Oh. - Oh.
[funky electronic music]
♪ ♪
and he fell hard for her.
- I opened up to you, and, like, who the hell are you?
- She stood you up three times.
- Even when you block her,
then she comes at you from someone else.
- Yeah.
- At what point does it become--
- Harassing? - Yeah.
- Oh. She's typing. - [gasps]
Ahh!
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Seeing is believing ♪
- Back to business.
- Hello. - Hey. There she is.
Whoa. Your braids, wow.
- It's a cultural reset... - I love it.
- Is what it is honestly.
- Anyway, I have to make sure we stay on schedule today
because right after we film, I have to go rehearse
for "Dancing with the Stars."
I got to learn my dance.
- Are you going to show me some dance moves or what?
- I'll show you, like, a little bit
of what I learned yesterday. It's all about, like,
bah, bah, you know, it's, like,
it's that cha-cha-cha, cha-cha-cha.
- Wow.
- And then you hit, and then you do,
like a rond de jambe, ball change.
It's really--it's hard. - A rond de jambe?
The terminology.
[laughs]
- Anyway, so let's get into this.
We got an email from Eric.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Eric.
"I'm 29, and I live in Buffalo, New York,
"with my son.
"I'm a full-time dad, so I haven't been
"in any serious relationships for a while,
"but I have been talking to this girl named Lianna
"for the past five months.
"She friended me out of the blue.
"She was really cute, so I messaged her,
"and we started talking.
"She's super sexy but mainly a really good listener.
"She actually cares about what's going on in my life.
"I honestly haven't had a connection like this
in a while, so I was excited for it."
- ♪ Gravity has caught up to me ♪
"I fell hard for her.
"She was everything I was looking for.
I tried to meet her multiple times,
"but she stood me up every time.
"I suggested we video chat,
but that hasn't happened either."
- ♪ Because I don't want to fall from the great height ♪
- "Then her friend got involved,
"and it was really weird.
"This girl is making it impossible to get together
or for me to move on."
- ♪ She's a killer ♪
- "We're still talking."
- ♪ Psycho vanilla ♪
- "But I need to find out what her deal is once and for all."
- ♪ Lead role in my dreams ♪
- "She's driving me crazy."
- ♪ Because I don't want to fall ♪
♪ From the great heights ♪
- "Thanks for your help, Eric."
- ♪ But my grip is failing ♪
- All right. I've texted Eric.
- It's the friend.
- Well, yeah, I mean, anytime a catfish has a friend
that comes into the situation, you got to be suspicious.
- I guess we have to find out.
[computer chimes] both: Oh.
- I heard a ding. - Hello!
- What's happening? - How you doing, Eric?
You said you have a kid, right? How old is your kid?
- He just turned ten on the 10th.
- Wow. - Ohh.
- He stays with you full-time?
- Yeah. Me and his mom, we co-parent very well.
She's very a part of his life every day,
so we do it together.
- That's great. So we saw your email.
Tell us more about Lianna.
Is that how she says it?
- Yes, it is.
She's a hairstylist. She's 24.
She's from New Hampshire, which matches her number,
because her number is a New Hampshire number.
- Does she live in New Hampshire?
Or does she live in Buffalo? - She lives in Buffalo.
She's been here about a year and a half now she told me.
- How did you meet? - She added me on Facebook.
I went right ahead and messaged her,
and she was gorgeous, so, like, why not?
She messaged me back and said, "Oh, I thought you were cute.
Sorry." So from there, I knew I was in.
- Did you have mutual friends or anything?
- We had a few, like, 12 or something.
- Do any of your friends actually know her?
- No, I've asked.
- Okay, so you did ask. Okay.
So you messaged her, and then how, like, what--
how did that go?
- Probably within a couple days, I had her number.
We started having phone calls.
- And how were your phone calls?
- They were actually pretty captivating.
Like, a lot of what she does is family orientated.
You know, she's real involved with her family,
and I told her about my son, told her about my work.
We shared some things about our lives with each other.
She had a way of, like, just making me think differently.
She really got into, like, me thinking my future
and what I'm trying to do,
and she was just very supportive.
I feel like she's a good soul.
I was easily able to connect with her,
and it's weird, because usually I don't even
open up like that to people.
- Yeah, and it was a girl's voice.
- Yes, yes. It was a girl's voice for sure.
Within about two weeks of talking to her,
I wanted to meet up.
The plan was for her to come over,
and then we were going to go out to Delaware Park.
- So she had your address.
- Yes, and then poof, just gone.
After, like, two hours of waiting, she just blocked me.
- Hmm. - Hmm.
- But you guys did obviously start talking again,
so how did she come back from that?
What was her, like--
- She unblocked me,
because she had reached out to me again
saying she was sorry and giving me
an explanation for what had happened,
something about her mom, you know, her mom was sick.
She needed to go over there and take care of that.
- She didn't know her mom was sick
before she made plans to come over?
- Exactly. - Right.
- So you guys start talking again.
Was there another plan to meet up again?
- Yeah. - And what happened this time?
- You know, she's getting ready,
da-da-da-da-da, we're good.
I'm like, "What's your ETA?" And she's like, "10 minutes,"
and then boom, her phone goes off,
and I don't hear from her for like a week.
- So she ghosted you again. - Yes.
- And yet somehow you're still involved with this woman.
- That's where Maria comes into play.
- That's Lianna's friend you mentioned. Maria.
- Maria.
- After the second time, I block Lianna.
So about a week goes by.
I start messaging with this girl, Maria, online.
- She messages you first?
- No, it was me. I messaged her.
- How did you find her? - I just happened to see her
as people I should know, and I added it.
- Mm.
- She immediately brought up Lianna
and that she can't talk to me, because she knows Lianna,
and she wouldn't do that to Lianna.
- I mean, if she's friends with Lianna,
it would make sense that she might pop up
on the people you may know. - Yeah.
She was trying to tell me to give Lianna another chance.
- It's weird. Had Maria friended you, I would be like,
"Oh, Maria and Lianna are the same person."
- Yeah.
- But the fact that you friended her...strange.
- So what happened after that?
- Maria said, "Okay, I'm coming to Buffalo.
I'm going to bring Lianna to you."
I unblock Lianna, and we made plans.
Maria was going to drop her off at my house.
The day comes. These girls are on their way,
and she says that Maria pulled over,
because she was fighting with her boyfriend.
So Lianna says, "Listen.
I'm just gonna walk to you."
I went outside, and I looked both ways.
And I didn't see her anywhere.
So I went back inside, and then I didn't even call her,
and she didn't even call me.
- Wow.
- So please tell me you have not talked to her since.
- She contacted me about a month ago,
and I kind of fell right back into it to be honest.
- She stood you up three times.
- Yeah.
You know, she was saying she'd give me another chance.
So at that point, like, I did invest time into you,
and, like, I told her some things that, like,
I don't want to have to tell another girl, you know?
- Sure. - Like, it's comforting.
- Yeah. - So, like, you're coming to me
with your boo-hoos and your sorries,
and yes, you're adorable, so okay, fine.
- So you like the chase. - I do.
I do definitely enjoy chase.
She's real enticing.
Like, for some reason, I feel, like, drawn.
- So let's see this girl.
Can you plug your phone in and show us her profile?
- Okay. Hold on.
Okay. You guys have my screen now, right?
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Oh. Whoa. - Whoa.
- Hey. Oh, my goodness. - [laughs]
Couldn't you give a warning
before you show full vag, please?
Would be great.
- Sorry, bro. - I see.
Steamy. Okay.
- All right. So there she is looking cute.
- You want me to just flip through them?
- Yeah, you could swipe. - Yeah.
- Okay. Cute.
- Okay. It's going to get graphic.
Go quick. Go quick. - Okay.
- Quick. - Okay.
- Whoa. - Ah!
- [laughs]
[laughter]
- There's a first for everything on this show.
I love it. - Lord.
- You really sent her multiple angles.
- [coughs] - [laughs]
- Okay, Eric.
- Now, that was an experience.
Can you go back to your text messages?
And I just want to see how you guys interact with each other.
- Okay. - You guys talk pretty often.
- Oh.
- This is the last time she said,
"I'm going to come with Maria, and we're going to see you."
"What is a good time for us to visit?"
"At 4 we can do something." "Okay. Sounds good. See you."
Now that's 5:00. Already she's an hour late.
We are leaving in a few. "She had to tell her man
"where she was going and took him home.
"I'm not flaking. I'm actually excited.
I'm going to be there in, like, 25 minutes."
Now it's 6:46.
"Right down the street. I'm walking.
"I'm going to hug you and wrap my legs around you,
and I'm not wearing underwear."
Is this how she talks on the phone?
- No, you know what? She's not really like this on the phone.
- So you were like, "Where are you?"
And she said, "Up the street. You should see me walking."
- But you would have seen her coming down the street.
- Yeah. - And then nothing.
She just disappeared for the night.
Unbelievable.
- She obviously was never there.
- That's how I feel.
- Something is definitely going on with this chick.
- Honestly, if that's not her,
I'm going to feel violated, you know?
I opened up to you, and, like, you're--
Who the hell are you?
- Wow. Okay. Well, now I need to know.
- Send us her phone number. Send us her Facebook page.
- Not the [bleep] pics.
I don't know if Google image search
will get us the correct results.
- [laughs]
- Let us do some digging, see what we can find
and hopefully get a little bit closer
to figuring out what is going on with this Lianna lady.
- All right. Thank you, guys. - Good to meet you, man.
- Nice to meet you guys too. Bye.
- Something is wrong. That whole walking,
I'm walking, I'm walking now,
I am on your street, the balls.
- I know. - Who is this person?
- I don't know. We got to figure it out.
- She can't keep toying with people this way.
We've got to stop her.
[funky percussive music]
- So we got an interesting situation here.
Eric and Lianna had been talking
for a little over six months now.
It looks like a cut-and-dry catfish situation.
- Mm-hmm. - She friended him on Facebook.
He thought she was cute. They started chatting.
She says, "I'll meet up with you," disappears.
And then he sent, like, five dick pics, like,
at the same time. - Different angles.
He was like, "This angle.
This angle. This angle."
- He did, like, the 360, like, full...
- [laughs]
A virtual tour.
- All right. So let's see what we got here,
because I'm ready to crack this case wide open.
So he sent me an email.
"Hey, guys, this is a little the info I have."
It's a Lianna Bressca, phone number, Facebook page,
and then Maria Camsso.
Okay. And then the pictures.
So let's-- I kind of just want to start
with the pictures if that's okay?
All right, so I'm going to start with this pic.
[tense music]
No hit. All right. Next pic.
All right. Again no hit on this.
Man, no hits.
All right, and the last one.
Oh!
We got a hit. - [gasps]
- ♪ We got a hit ♪
♪ We got a hit ♪
- Oh, my God. Click it.
- I can't believe on the last one.
- Click it.
- All right, let's check this out.
Oh.
- Ahh!
- Why are there so much vagina in this episode?
- I don't know. - And another penis.
What is going on?
- I'm--I'm done. Listen. I'm open to a lot of things.
- Here it is. Look. Here it is.
That's her.
- [gasps]
- That is her.
Kayala [bleep]. "In your dreams, bitch."
Ooh, what's this? Who is this Kayala [bleep]?
- [gasps]
- Oh, God. It's this thing again.
- Again with the vagina.
Please, can we get a vagina alert chime?
- Oh, wait a second.
Oh, it wants to download something.
- "Teen with big tits craving for [bleep]."
Get off of this [bleep].
We're going to get a [bleep] virus.
But that name. - Kayala [bleep].
Let's look that up.
♪ ♪
There's a Twitter.
- Her name seems to be to be Kayala [bleep].
- Okay. Here's her Twitter. SpongeBob.
-It's different than the link.
She changed her name from Kayala [bleep] to kprincess.
- It's private.
Let's check out her mentions.
- What are these conversations?
- "Send me your addy."
"This got me [bleep] babe."
I mean, so okay, so whatever she's posting,
it's obviously of very sexual nature.
This definitely feels very, like,
camgirl, OnlyFans vibe-y.
- But you wouldn't put that as your picture.
- SpongeBob? - You would have a real photo.
Who's going to [bleep] pay for that?
- Let's search for kprincess.
- Oh. - Oh.
- Oh, jackpot.
- There's an Instagram.
SpongeBob. Again with the fake avatar and...
- I can't.
- Obviously someone is associated
with those profiles, goes by Kayala,
but that doesn't necessarily mean that she's the girl
in the pictures.
Is someone stealing her photos
and using them on this weird Tumblr or something?
But let's run the phone number...
- Yeah. - And see if that comes back
to anything.
- Maybe to a Kayala.
- Kalynn? - Kalynn?
- Kalynn [bleep].
- Also known as Kalynn Marie.
- Marie.
Very similar to Lianna's friend, Maria.
- Mm.
- All right. Let's check this out.
Oh, yeah, and look, a Facebook page.
[tense music]
- Oh, SpongeBob.
Kayala had SpongeBob as her avatars, didn't she?
Yeah, see, SpongeBob.
It's her.
- It's definitely not the girl in the pictures.
So for the phone number that he's been speaking
to Lianna on,
it comes back to this girl, Kalynn.
She's 29, and we found a weird connection
between our likely other fake profiles
associated with the images of Lianna
but under another name, Kayala.
- Mm-hmm.
- Which is similar to Kalynn,
and there's a SpongeBob connection.
Is Kalynn taking pictures of this other girl
and making all these fake profiles?
- This can't be a coincidence.
- She is our prime suspect.
Let's go to Lianna's Facebook page
and just take a look at it. All right.
So there's not a lot on here that we can see.
2,000 friends.
- She's friends with a lot of guys.
- Like, there's so many guys.
I wonder if she's talking to any of these other guys.
Yeah, let's message this guy.
Sent. I mean, there's also--
let's just check out Maria's Facebook page.
So this is Lianna's friend that Eric was also talking to.
Okay. Here's Maria. - Mm.
- Because this could be a fake page too.
- True. - Right?
- She's friends with a lot of guys,
and so is the Lianna account.
- Check this out. There's even more comments, right?
I've seen the guy, like, Andy [bleep]
kind of comments with the most consistency.
Let's message him.
Okay. Sent. Ooh, look at this.
This guy Danny wrote, "Mine" with a heart,
and then she wrote back, "Always" hearts.
Let's send him a message.
Sent.
- This is supposed to be the girl who had a boyfriend
when she was driving Lianna to come and see Eric?
- I mean, maybe Danny is her boyfriend,
but it feels like what we're dealing with here
is some bull[bleep].
- I'm going go out there on a limb that Eric
is not talking to the girl in the pictures whatsoever.
This is somebody completely different,
and I think that whoever this person is,
they're also Maria.
Clearly this person doesn't want to be found.
- Are these both fake,
and are they both run by the same person?
And is that person Kalynn?
It just feels like this is going to go
from private parts to broken hearts.
♪ ♪
- Good morning, everyone, again
from me and the Smalls.
Biggie, guess what.
Today I went outside.
I got some treats.
He's like, "How could you?
You did all these things without me?"
No, don't leave. You want a treat?
Let's get a treat. Yeah.
[laughs]
Where is Nev?
[phone dings]
We have things to do.
[computer chimes]
Yo.
[computer chimes]
- So let's check and see if--
- Because you messaged a lot of people yesterday.
- Ooh, one message from Danny Brooklyn.
- He was the one talking to Maria
like he's her boyfriend.
He basically says, "Yes, you can talk to me,"
but he didn't give his number or anything,
so let's message him quickly and just say,
"Hello. Thanks for getting back to me.
Here's my number."
Okay. Sent. Let me text Eric and see where he's at.
- I think he's still holding out hope that, like,
this girl actually cares about him,
and maybe she does, but it's not looking great.
- Hey! - Hello.
- Hey, Eric.
- How you doing, man? What's going on?
- I had a rough start to my day.
Like, I threw up this morning.
- Is it, like, anxiety? - Yep.
Honestly, I'm still conflicted on,
you know, if it's real or not.
If everything checks out, I want to see her.
You know, I want to pursue this.
- All right. Well, look, yesterday
we did the best we could.
We found a lot of stuff.
- Okay.
- We searched as many photos of her that we could find,
and one of them shows up on this website.
It's called Tumbral.
It's not Tumblr, but it's called Tumbral,
and it seems to sort of aggregate different
Tumblr pictures.
I'm not really sure what to make of it, but clearly it's...
- Lianna.
- So we followed these links to see where they took us,
and, Kamie, I know you need the warning,
but there is some graphic content.
- Thank you. - So just prepare yourself.
You can see the picture is here,
and I'll scroll up just so you can get a sense.
There's pictures of other body parts
and things of that nature.
- Ohh, I saw it anyway.
- And so it's weird, because why is her picture
on what appears to be some sort of
amateur porn Tumblr page.
There is one comment from Kayala [bleep].
She says, "In your dreams, bitch."
So we did a search for Kayala [bleep].
Now, this brought us to a Twitter account.
There aren't any pictures of her,
but whoever had the Kayala [bleep]
Twitter profile at some point changed the name to kprincess.
So we kept searching, and we found this Instagram
for kprincess, and sure enough the name is Kayala again.
It's locked. It's private.
So all we could see is that she's using SpongeBob
as her avatar.
Not sure what that means, but okay.
Do you know anyone named Kayala?
- I don't. - Right.
That name doesn't ring any bells to you.
Now, it could have just as easily been
a fake account that someone started.
I'm not sure there's any way to really decipher that.
But who is posting them? Who is Kayala?
Is she the girl in the pictures?
How, if any, is there a connection
between her and Lianna?
We don't know yet.
- Ohh, wow.
- So and then we sort of though, "Okay.
Let's go back and do the phone number.
So we searched the phone number you have
and the one that you text,
and the first hit we got
was for someone named Kalynn [bleep].
Does that-- - Does that name ring a bell?
- No.
- Well, according to this,
there is a Facebook page linked to her info.
So here's Kalynn.
Kalynn is 29.
- You don't recognize this girl?
- No. No, I got no idea who that is.
- Right. You've never seen her before?
- No. None of that's ringing a bell.
- The one thing that jumped out at me
was that her background here is a SpongeBob photo.
So that made me think, "Okay. Wait a second.
And if you go back to the Instagram
and Twitter that we found, it's a picture of SpongeBob."
- Kayala and Kalynn are similar names.
They both have SpongeBob in their profiles.
I mean, it could just be, like,
a silly coincidence, but--
- Or not. - Or not.
- From how I'm looking at it, I got catfished.
- Yes, it's definitely not a good sign that
the phone number comes back to a different girl named Kalynn.
There doesn't seem to be any trace of, like,
a Lianna anywhere other than the Facebook page
that you're friends with.
- Well, I mean, that's kind of an answer in itself,
personally, you know?
- ♪ I only lie when I wish it was the truth ♪
- I know that it's, like,
a violation when this kind of thing happens,
and then the fact that, like--
- It's exactly how I feel.
- Right. You guys were sharing conversations.
You're sharing something personal with someone else,
not just words but, like,
physical photos of yourself.
- I fantasize that all my dreams come true ♪
- That--that hurts. It's been a [bleep] long time.
Like, what are you doing?
- I think that the most [bleep] up part about it to me
is the fact that this person went to the extent
of pretending like they were showing up.
This is not [bleep] okay.
- Yeah. - Yeah, you know, I was hopeful
that it was something, you know,
legit and something I could pursue,
but this is just some sick fantasy play out.
- Right. - It's embarrassing.
This is just their weird kink. I don't know.
It's not okay at all.
- ♪ I miss you but you do not miss me back ♪
- It's been a long time.
Like, what are you doing?
It's disrespectful. It's weird.
- Yeah. - I don't know.
I'm still interested in finding out who it really is.
You know, I'd like to know.
- Right.
Yeah. All right. So let's just finish
showing you what we found,
'cause there's only a little bit more.
So then we thought, "Okay, let's go look through
Lianna's Facebook page."
So, you know, we just sort of started
going through the comments,
and obviously it's mostly guys.
Some of them feel flirty.
We also went to Maria's page,
and it has a sort of similar vibe:
cute profile pictures, lots of comments from mostly guys.
So we sent some messages to some of those guys
just in the hopes that we might get to
talk to some of them, and one of them got back to us,
but he basically just said, like,
"Yeah, I've seen your show. What's up?"
And so I messaged him back asking if maybe he could talk,
but obviously I haven't heard back yet,
and so that's kind of where we left it.
- We just hit up all those guys,
but we never hit up Maria.
- Oh, that's true.
Maybe we should try reaching out to Maria.
- But assuming Maria and Lianna are the same,
and then we could be tipping off.
- Wait. Hold on a second. Time-out. Time-out.
I'm getting a phone call from Florida.
- Oh, not a good sign. - Well...
- Right off the bat. - Hello.
- Hey, it's Daniel. - Daniel?
- Off of Facebook. - Do you go by Danny Brooklyn?
- Yes, I do. I do go by Danny Brooklyn.
- Aha. So are you able to join a Zoom call?
- Yes, sir. - All right. Great.
I'll send you just a link right now. Okay?
- Sounds good. - Okay. Sent.
Hey, Daniel. - Oh.
- Hey, how's it going? - Quick introductions.
So Kamie over here, and this is Eric.
- Eric, what's up, man? - And we reached out to you
because we saw that you were friends with
and had commented on some of Maria's Facebook posts,
and we're curious what you knew about her.
- Yeah, so, she had added me as a friend on Facebook.
You know, we ended up starting to talk,
and we kicked it off,
and it was, like, endless nights,
you know, 7, 8 hours on the phone every day.
So we eventually got to the point where we wanted
to meet each other, and we go ahead and meet up.
"Oh, I'm on my way. I'm 5 minutes away.
I'll be there in 2 minutes,"
and then everything is blocked.
- And when you talked, did she ever mention her friend Lianna?
- Oh, yeah.
- I've been talking to Lianna
and pretty much the same exact story you just said.
She stood me up a couple times.
Then Maria got involved.
They talked me into trying to chill
with both of them it was supposed to be.
- Wow. Where are you from, Eric?
-Buffalo, New York.
- That's where Maria is from. - Ha!
- Yeah. [laughs]
- You know, it kind of hurt me.
I was so, so excited to see this person,
and out of the blue, this girl
Tracey messaged me on Facebook
stating that she was actually
behind the profile of Maria.
- Tracey? - Yeah.
- Not someone named Lianna or Kalynn?
- Nope.
- Who the hell is Tracey?
- Have you ever video chatted with Tracey?
- I mean, I've tried video chatting with Tracey,
but she's never actually showed her face,
and Tracey, she was like,
"You know, I have a lot of money.
"I came into a lot of money.
"Please let me take you out.
Let me buy you a house.
me buy you a car..." and... - Huh?
- Weird.
- This doesn't, like-- I mean--
- So you mean, so Tracey said
she is the one that was pretending to be Maria
and that she felt badly that she had lied to you
and that she had all this money,
and she wanted to sort of make it up to you.
- Exactly. I said, "If you want to get together,
let's get together," and again ghost.
You know, it really hurt,
all this ghosting and playing games,
and it's like mind games.
It's not fair to me.
It's not fair to me or anybody else.
- Yeah.
- You know, I really want to know,
what do you get out of this?
Like, why do you do this?
- You felt like you were making this super meaningful
connection with this girl, Maria,
and all the while, it sounds like
she was doing basically the same thing with Eric.
- Yeah.
- The thing that bothers me so much is,
like, even when you block her,
then she comes at you from someone else,
and she starts bothering you again.
It's, like... - Yeah.
- At what point does it become--
- Harassing. It's harassing.
- Yeah. - Even after you're like,
"I don't really want to talk to you,"
she's like, "Oh, I have a [bleep] ton of money.
I can give you money."
Like, how desperate is this person
for companionship or friendship?
How far are they willing to go to get it?
And, like, are they even recognizing
who they're hurting in the process?
- It's not fair. - All right.
Well, look, Danny, thank you for sharing all this with us.
If you could send us Tracey's profile
so that we can reach out to her.
- Of course. - I need to see what
this girl looks like.
- If you need anything else from me, I'm here.
- All right. Really appreciate it.
- Thanks, Danny.
Bye. What a sweetheart.
- Wow. Well...
- Obviously, I wasn't special.
- Makes you feel less alone maybe, like, a little--
- Yeah.
- Yeah, so what do you want to do, Eric?
- Well, what's the next move,
try and contact Tracey or Lianna?
- Yeah. I think we've got to talk to Tracey
or whatever her real name is,
because she's at the eye of the storm of this whole situation.
- Well, knock, knock, Tracey, open up.
- So I'm just waiting for him to send that profile,
because then we can message her.
- Oh, God.
I mean, who knows how many other guys
she's been talking to.
This could potentially be blowing up
her whole entire operation.
- Let's see. Hold on. Maybe he texted me here.
Oh, yeah, you know what?
- Oh. - He did text me.
Oh, there we go.
- Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
- He wrote, "I swear this was here last week.
"I think she deleted her profile.
This is what comes up now!"
- Wait, what?
The Tracey profile is gone.
What the [bleep]?
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- So the Tracey profile is gone.
What the [bleep]?
- What?
- So maybe she blocked him.
Maybe the page still exists; he just can't see it.
- I mean, look, the reality here is,
JUST because Lianna came clean to Danny as Tracey
doesn't mean that her real name is Tracey.
- Yeah. - Maybe she just has that
as another fake profile
so that she can come clean to guys
without the fear of them actually tracking her down
and, you know, doing something or about, to her or--
- Right. But if her name is Tracey,
none of this explains
the Kayala [bleep]
and then the Kalynn profile.
Is that all just not related?
- I don't know. I mean, the only person who can answer
that is Tracey, I guess.
- [sighs]
- We still have a phone number we can reach her through.
I mean, we know it's her, so we might as well
just text the number you have for Lianna, right?
- Yeah.
- So I'm going to send her another message now.
All right. I texted her. Let's see.
Okay. So she has her read receipts on,
so these have both been delivered,
but neither of them has been read.
- Share the screen.
- Right.
Oh. - Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
- She's typing.
Hold on. She must have stopped typing,
and now she's considering an edit perhaps
or whether she's going to send it.
- Or a lie. - Or blocking you.
- Right, or she's going to block me.
Tracey?
- Oh, yeah, 'cause she doesn't know that we know her name.
- Ooh. - I mean, I don't--
we don't even know if that's her name.
- Right.
[tense music]
I feel like the next message you send,
it's going to be green.
She's going to block.
♪ ♪
- Oh, she saw it. - Ooh.
♪ ♪
[gasps]
♪ ♪
- "I'm shocked he wants to meet me
when I thought all he wanted was hookups."
- You know, what kind of game is that?
- "You know that's BS."
♪ ♪
I'm not going to play her game.
- You tell her, Nev.
- Well, also, that's the act.
She's posing as a young, attractive woman
and flirting and engaging in sexual conversations.
She can't be surprised that,
yeah, of course you want to have sex with her.
That's been her--
- Angle. - Yeah.
- Right.
- "Okay, well, I guess you don't care..."
- Ultimatum time.
- "About Eric or anything,
so never mind."
- I--I feel like maybe if you sent the link in there
after the never mind part,
maybe she'll read that and maybe, you know?
- How about just like, "Last chance."
- Mm.
- And then I'll put the link.
- Eric, are you ready to talk to this girl?
- Yeah.
- You're going to have to lay down the law and tell her
what you expect from this moment forward.
- Okay.
- All right, sent.
- She has to read it to get to the link, right?
- Right. So if she reads it,
then either she starts typing or--
- Oh, my God, she read it.
- Okay. She read it.
♪ ♪
Uh! - Here she comes.
- Ooh...
♪ ♪
Come on. Come on.
[computer chimes]
- Oh.
[computer chimes] Uh!
- Here she comes.
- Ooh...
♪ ♪
Come on. Come on.
[computer chimes] - Oh.
- Hello. - Hello.
- Hi. - Hi.
- Hi. You're not the girl in the pictures,
and you're not Kalynn.
- No.
♪ ♪
- So you don't know a Kalynn?
'Cause your phone number traces back to her.
- No.
- Then is your name Tracey?
- Yes.
- Is that your real name?
- Yes. - And it's been you talking
to Eric this whole time?
- Yes.
I made the account,
like, the beginning of the pandemic.
I was bored.
I wanted people to talk to, but I wasn't--
like, I'm not somebody that was really trying to scam anybody
because I really did feel bad, you know?
- Which account are you referring to?
- See, the Lianna account was Eric,
but I ended up switching to the Maria account,
because the Lianna account got too many--
too many requests.
I was getting, like, 400 requests a day.
♪ ♪
- And those are the only accounts that you have?
- Yes.
- That's rude.
- Well, look, obviously we don't really know
anything about you,
so can you just tell us a little bit about
who you actually are.
- My name is Tracey. I live in New Hampshire.
I am actually 42 years old.
I don't know; I basically, like, help take care
of my handicapped uncle with my mother and stuff,
and my mom's sick too.
She's got Crohn's disease,
so I'm constantly helping them.
That is my life,
so I think I was trying to give myself a different life,
which was obviously not reality.
- And you're single?
You're not married or anything?
- No. - Children?
- No.
I can't have children.
- Is that something that you want?
- I want it all, but I'll never get that.
- Why-- - Why do you say that?
♪ ♪
- Because I don't go out.
I don't go out to even meet somebody, and I don't know.
Just I'm insecure.
- Why keep doing things to hurt him,
like telling him you're going to meet up with him
and blowing him off and then blocking him and...
- Because I was being stupid, because I really did want
to see him, but I couldn't see him as me.
- Look, we already talked to Danny,
one of Maria's boyfriends,
and Danny told us the same thing.
- Yes. - "I'm coming down the street.
I'm 5 minutes away. I'm 2 minutes away."
Why even bother with that
if you know you're not going to show up?
- I don't know.
- That is a game.
That is 100% a game.
- You're actively making plans to see these guys in person
and making it seem like you were on your way.
- Because that's all they want. They want to see you,
and then it's like, I wanted to keep them talking to me,
so it's like, "Okay, I will come see you."
You know?
- But you know it's not going to actually happen.
- I know. - So what is the end goal?
Like, what do you expect to get out of that?
- I don't know.
I didn't-- I wanted to get rid of this--
I wanted to get rid of it so many times.
I was getting myself more upset and depressed
even liking somebody, because then I'm like, "Okay.
Now I'm waiting all day for somebody to call me"
and all that.
It was, like, I'm more or less lonely.
Then I ended up started liking, like, especially Eric.
I ended up liking him.
And I was looking for somebody to be with, like,
have that connection and just vibes.
- I'm sure you feel that way right now,
because it's all in front of you,
but, like, honestly, I don't know
heads from tails of your stories,
except for that it's all a lie.
- Okay.
- Even though you are seemingly very self-aware
about different aspects of this,
I think that there are a lot of deeper issues
that need to be worked out internally.
Like, woman to woman, I just have a feeling
that you've been going through this
and feeling this for a really long time.
We need to shave off some of that insecure feeling,
because it's keeping you from being able to make true,
genuine relationships
and even just a relationship with yourself.
- Yeah. - Because how do you
honestly feel about yourself as a person?
- [chuckles]
Not that good.
- Obviously, I'm upset,
but, like, no one should have to feel this bad
about themselves that they need to do this.
- You say kind of a lot of the right things about knowing
that what you were doing was wrong
and feeling bad about it, but at the same time,
I don't think you really get just how hurtful
what you're doing is, and Eric--
- No, I do exactly know how hurtful it is,
because you're playing with people's emotions.
I understand that.
- You told us you only had two profiles,
but do you know how many other people
you've been leading on these past few months?
- I don't know.
- Well, what you could do is,
you could post on each of the profiles and say,
"This is who I am. I've been lying this entire time.
I'm sorry, and I apologize,"
so that way you can apologize to everyone.
- I was just going to deactivate, but...
- You're putting yourself out there,
but that's the point.
You need to give everybody involved
or affected by your lies the courtesy of the truth,
and putting yourself in a position to,
you know, reap what you sow
and be accountable is part of building up your confidence.
- You want me to do it right now?
- Yeah, let's do it. Right now. - Yeah.
- Let's just pull that Band-Aid off.
- You want to make a change.
- All right. - Okay. Here we go.
- Okay, so-- - I'm in Maria.
- All right. You're on Maria now.
Okay. So go to her profile. - Okay.
- And there we go.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- All right. Posted that one.
♪ ♪
- And now Lianna's Facebook page.
- Come on, Tracey. You can do this, girl.
- "I will no longer be using this account." Perfect.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- Okay, great.
- Yeah.
- How did that feel?
- It felt good.
- All right. Well, that's a good start.
You know, I don't think you seem like a bad person.
Sure, you've made some bad decisions.
I think most of us can say the same.
I know I feel better
knowing that you've done that on those pages.
Obviously, I'm happy that Eric now knows the truth,
and I'm hoping that you
won't continue doing this sort of thing,
and you'll learn from this and grow.
- Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, Eric.
- Thank you.
It wasn't all bad.
You know, we had some good talks.
You know, we had a little fun.
I'm glad I could be there for you
in whatever twisted way you needed,
but it wasn't okay to do, though.
- I know.
- You've done the right thing.
You did the right thing by coming here.
You did the right thing by making those posts
and being honest, and I think
that this is going to be a really freeing experience
for you moving forward, and I'm happy for that.
- Thank you.
- Good luck, Tracey.
- Bye. Thank you. - Bye.
- Bye.
- [exhales]
- So, you know,
I'm happy that this was a platform
for her to stop what-- you know, all this.
- All right. Well, look, man,
thanks for letting us help you out,
and good luck in hopefully your next relationship,
which be with a real person who treats you well.
- A baddy in Buffalo.
- Oh, yeah. - [laughs]
- [laughs]
All right. Thank you, guys.
- Bye. - Bye.
- ♪ Do you ever feel ♪
♪ Like it's all mine? ♪
♪ Will you ever feel ♪
♪ Like it's all fine? ♪
♪ ♪
- Scuba meets Renee on a virtual social network.
- She was the love of my life, but then one day, it was gone.
- She's thought about you. She found you again.
Like, she wants to be in your life.
- [gasps] Shut the [bleep] up.
- Wow. That almost makes the case that Renee is legit.
- I'm at the edge of my seat right now.
[computer chimes]
- Oh. - Oh.
[funky electronic music]
♪ ♪