Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 5 - Mary & Adam - full transcript
A former catfish turns to Nev and Max for help when they fall hard in love online. This catfish might be playing Nev and Max, or may end up paying for their crimes with a broken heart.
- This is an email
with sender Anonymous.
"You've caught me catfishing
in the past.
A "Catfish" repeat offender.
- Who could this be?
- Adam, age 40.
This is a nightmare.
- Could this be a 40-year-old?
[intense music]
- They're playing us.
They are a catfish.
Which means that
they're good liars.
♪ ♪
For the past six years,
Max and I have been
traveling the world--
- Whoo!
- Helping people
find out the truth--
- What the [bleep]?
- About their online
relationships.
- I feel so stupid right now.
- But in an age where
everyone knows everything
about everybody,
people are getting better
and better at hiding the truth.
- [together] What?
- Which is why this
time around,
every episode has double
the secrets--
- These are all connected
to that phone number.
- What?
- And double the reveals--
- There were some things
she didn't tell you guys.
That are going to seriously
blow your mind.
- What?
This is
"Catfish: The TV Show."
♪ ♪
I haven't seen you in a while.
- Well, what have you
been up to?
- Cleo's the best.
- Cleo.
- We got this new thing
that we do now.
Whenever she's getting, like,
a little fussy,
we go, "We're losing her!"
And then I go,
[mimics shock paddles]
- But now she does it.
So if I lay on the ground
and then say,
"We're losing him!Clear!"
She'll come over
and she'll go--
[mimics shock paddles]
- Aww.
- It's really cute.
We're losing him!
- All right,
let's do it.
- Ooh.
So this is an email
with the sender Anonymous.
- We've never gotten an email
from Anonymous.
A John Doe or Jane Doe.Weird.
- Hey Max and Nev,
this is really strange...
Normally this is the part
where I would tell you
who I am,
but I'm afraid if I do,
you'll close the email.
The thing is,
you've caught me catfishing
in the past.
A "Catfish" repeat offender.
Who is it?
- ♪ Not a single day goes by ♪
♪ Where you don't
cross my mind ♪
♪ Not a single day goes by ♪
♪ Where you don't cross my ♪
- Who could this be?
- "Three years ago,
I met Adam on Facebook."
- Who says, "frickin?"
- That girl--
- [together] Heather.
- From Pensacola.
- With the tall guy, Big Mike.
- "You're cool as crap."
- Right.
- I thought you were
cool as crap.
- It could be her.
- "Over the years, Adam and I
have dated on and off.
"But now he's my boyfriend.
"Adam lights up my day and has
made me feel things
I've never felt before."
"But only when I pretended
to be someone else."
"But Adam knows all about me
and still loves me."
So this is nice.
So it was a former catfish
who's now not catfishing,
but thinks she might
be getting catfished.
So that's interesting.
- I don't know if this
is a guy or a girl.
- That's true.
"Everything was perfect..."
- Karma's a bitch.
- "He refuses to meet,
"and while it's
been three years,
"we've never video chatted.
"It's heartbreaking and
embarrassing to think
I'm being catfished
by the guy I love."
- ♪ Not a single day goes by ♪
♪ Where you don't cross my ♪
♪ ♪
- You should just write back,
"Who dis?"
[both laughing]
- Let's just say,
"Hey Anonymous,
We wanna help.
Let's video chat."
- Who can this be?
I hope it's Jose.
- Oh, my God.
- If it--Could it be?
Could it be?
- I hope it is.
Jose!
Can we hear the Rosa voice?
- I mean,
I dunno what's going on.
You know, a lot of things been
changing in my life.
- Wow.
Should we go over to the board?
- Yeah, I think we should.
Our casting wall here of every
episode of the show ever.
- Who could this catfish be?
- Chastity, oh, my God,
I hope it's her.
- Derek, this is Chastity.
- Hi.
- We would love to help her.
I don't think she'd be, like,
afraid to reach out to us.
- Brandy?
Could be Brandy.
She was the one I went
to Texas to get.
- Oh, right.
- Hi, I'm Max.
- I'm Brandy.
- It just felt better to, like,
not be me.
- Wait, I hope it's Justin.
- I don't think he would ever
talk to us again.
[clapping]
- Who could this be?
- We'll see.
- Ever got anything back?
- Oh, we got it back!
That was fast.
- Okay.
"Thanks, guys.
I can video chat now
if you can.
My ID is..."
Wow, Anonymous.
- They are a catfish,
which means that they're good--
- They might be lying.
- At creating profiles.
- We should consider
that we might be
getting lied to right now.
This could all be
some weird set up.
Let's just keep our guard up.
All right,
start video call.
[phone trilling]
all: Hey!
- Mary.
- It's me.
- Holy [bleep],
what's up?
- Hi.
- This is Mary,
slash Ally.
- Yeah, this is Dylan.
- We just saw you this year.
The second time,
it was about Darien.
This is déjà vu.
What is it going to take
for you to stop catfishing?
- I don't know.
- We all tried to beg you
to stop catfishing.
- Are you still--
- No.
- I don't believe you.
- I am not, and I am
so proud of myself.
It's been a few months.
Being on the show.
I got dragged through
the mud pretty hard
on all my social media.
- I'm very sorry
that that happened.
- I knew, going on the show,
what was gonna happen.
Didn't expect the extent,
but I understood.
That was karma,
and it hurts.
But I deserve it.
I started going to therapy.
It's a real eye opener.
- Congratulations on
going to therapy
and working all that stuff out.
- I wanna believe you.
I'm excited for you
that you're growing up
and finding your
self confidence,
and that's awesome.
So we're gonna help you.
- Thank you, Nev.
- So tell us how you met Adam,
under what circumstances.
- We met three years ago.
- Wait a second,
so while you were
being a catfish,
you were having
a wonderful relationship as
yourself with this other guy?
- No, no, no.
Um, so...
When Adam would get in
a relationship back home,
he would dump me and
I'd just go back catfishing.
- Well, did he ever say,
"Hey, what the [bleep],
I saw you on "Catfish"?"
- Yeah, but he was like,
"I don't wanna talk
"about that because
that's a burn for you
"and you don't wanna
talk about it,
so let's not talk about it."
- Convenient.
- Yeah.
- All right, so, okay.
So give us the whole thing.
- We met online on
my "People you may know."
As Mary,
as Adam.
Well, as Cameron, actually.
But I met him as his picture.
Like, he had the real picture.
- Why the fake name?
- His mom and him are not
in each other's lives.
So he doesn't want his mom
to try to connect
to him on Facebook.
- He said he didn't want his
mom to find him.
So he uses an account
with the name Cameron.
Why is he so anti-Mom?
He has joint custody
of his little sister
with his grandparents.
- So you guys start--
You're crushing on him.
He flirts back with you.
- We start, you know,
talking all the time.
But video chatting
is not a thing.
When I would ask him,
he was like,
"I'm having an ugly day."
I'm like, okay,
everyone has an ugly day.
I totally understand.
- Every day.
all: [laughing]
Where does Adam live?
- Alabama.
- And what--You're in--
- Oklahoma.
- Oklahoma.
- I have asked him,
"Hey, let me come see you."
And he's like,
"I'm embarrassed for you
to meet my family."
Or, "I don't want you to come
into my little sister's life."
- But do you believe that?
- I feel like I don't have any
reason not to believe him.
- If it turns out that Adam
is not the guy in the pictures,
will that matter?
- No, I am still gonna love
him no matter what.
- No matter what he looks like?
- If he is old, I don't
know if I can pursue that.
- What's old?
- Um, I'm gonna say 40.
Over 40.
- Fair.
- I want to believe
he's not a catfish,
but at the same time,
I don't know.
- I'm excited.
I like this.
I like this.
It's different.
Something about Mary.
What can you say?
- I mean--
all: [laughing]
- We're gonna get you
on a flight to LA,
and we'll meet up and
we'll figure this out.
- All right,
see you soon.
- Wait, what did you make for
us last time we were there?
- Those cookies.
Can you bring a batch?
- Okay, okay.
- We gotta go, Mary.
We'll see you soon, okay?
- Bye.
- Mary.
- I wanna believe her.
But we should just be careful.
[upbeat music]
Let's go get our girl.
- Mary, Mary, quite contrary.
- Something feels off to me.
We know this girl's
lied in the past.
The only thing she's ever told
us the truth about
was that she can't stop lying.
- Oddly, like, one of the very
few people who's ever
been honest about that.
- Got her in my sights.
- Oh, my God.
She did bring cookies.
- Mary.
- Hi!
- Ooh, give me that.
Hi.
- Hi.
- Good to see you.
- Hey.
- Good to see you.
- Good to see you.
- Step into your chariot.
- First things first.
- Oh, man, that's good.
- Mmm.
What do you put in these?
- I can't tell you
guys my secret.
- So you are hiding
something from us.
I knew it.
- We're just gonna go
to this coffee shop.
- All right,
let's do it.
♪ ♪
So, look. Tell us everything
about this guy.
- Let's go way back
to three years ago.
- When I hit up Adam, we had,
like, one mutual friend.
I'm like,
"This boy is frickin hot."
I was like, "We should text."
And he was like, "All right,
sure, let's text."
So we started texting.
- ♪ What can you tell me now ♪
- He told me about two years
ago that he loved me.
We talk on the phone about
three or four times a week.
- ♪ 'Cause I know you care ♪
- He's always been there.
He pushed me.
He wants me to do better
in my life.
And it feels good.
I'm going to business school.
I'm going to get
brand new teeth.
And I am super excited to have
a beautiful smile finally.
Um, I'm gonna cry.
It sucks.
[laughs]Um...
When I lose weight,
he's like,
"You're beautiful just
the way you are,
"but if you wanna lose weight,
then you do it for you.
Don't do it for me."
And I want that.
I want someone that doesn't
care that I'm bigger
than other girls.
- ♪ 'Cause I know you care ♪
♪ Don't leave me in the blue ♪
- But I do wanna know
who I fell in love with.
- Let's see this guy.
- Okay.
- Let's see what
we're working with.
- Here we go.
- Yeah,
he's a good looking guy.
It looks like he's
in a doctor's office.
- He told me that
he has cancer.
[quirky music]
- Come on!
- Mary, come on.
- Get out and come back in here
and sit down and say,
"I'm dating a catfish.
I need your help."
You believe this guy?
He told me that he smokes.
He has mouth cancer.
So I was like,
"Makes sense."
- It's hard for me to buy that
someone as smart as you are
who's been catfishing
for four or five years
would fall for this
bull[bleep].
- You haven't really applied
everything you know
about catfishing to figuring
out who this guy is.
- I've done the Google
image search.
Nothing was there.
- Okay, well, that's good.
And I've done the phone number
search on Facebook,
and it pulls up him.
I trust him and, you know,
he's giving me, like,
his username and password
for certain social medias.
And I'd go on there and there
was nothing there.
- Yeah, but why won't
he meet you, then?
- I mean, anxiety,
and he's scared.
- Something's not adding up.
- My fear is that if it does
end up being someone who's not
the guy in the pictures
that you go back to needing
to catfish or other
coping mechanisms
that might not be healthy.
- I'm not gonna relapse because
I need to be strong
for myself and other people.
[sniffs]
So...
- All right.
- We're gonna figure this out.
Write us an email,
give us all the info
that you have.
- Let's go.
Let's get out of here.
Lots to do.
- We'll take you to your hotel.
[dramatic music]
[beeping]
- Okay.
- Here we are.
- Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.
- All right.
- I don't know.
- I mean, the things that
he's saying to her
are so saintly.
I don't know any 19, 20,
21-year-old guys
that are, like, that sweet.
Where were they when
I was a little girl?
- Something very fishy
going on here.
- One of the benefits being
at the headquarters,
we can finally use
the whiteboard.
We got Mary.
- Yeah.
- Mary is on her laptop,
and she meets Cameron.
- Cameron.
- Then she finds out Cameron--
- Is actually Adam.
- Mary is in love with Adam.
- Mmm-hmm.
- And Adam is in love
with Mary.
- Yeah.
- What's the problem?
- There is something between
Adam and Mary.
We don't know what it is.
- So you wanna put some
kind of a block?
- An obstruction.
We need to figure out
what said obstruction
actually is.
- Right.
That's our job.
- This is the mystery.
- Okay.
We got an email.
"Here's the info you
wanted for Adam.
His phone number.
"He lives in a small town
in Alabama and
is 20 years old."
"Here's all the photos
I have of him."
His Instagram.
Also here are the links
for his Cameron and Adam
Facebook pages.
- Let's take the pictures
and then run them.
- Right, right, right.
First image.
Here we go.
Oh, nothing.
Selfie.
Image number two.
Nothing.
- Nope.
- All right,
image number three.
No, come on.
- All right, so let's just
run his number.
Boom, what do we get?
What do we get?
Come on, come on, come on.
Nothing.
No name associated
with this number.
Let's go to his old Adam
Facebook page.
- Which is supposed
to be his real one.
- Well, that's right.
He doesn't want his mom to see
what's going on in his life,
so he posts stuff
on the Cameron page.
All right, so here's
his Adam Facebook.
Here's a post from
12 hours ago.
He mentioned this girl Skyler.
- That's not good.
- "Talking with you is great
when we watch movies."
- Oh, God, that's gonna hurt
Mary's feelings.
- And she wrote, "God, December
11th can't come soon enough."
[suspenseful music]
Sounds like they had plans
to meet.
Let's go to her page.
Here's some pictures.
- Yeah.
- She's real.
- She's real, she's real.
We gotta reach out to her.
- All right, well,
let's message her.
"Hey, Skyler.
Just wanted to let you know..."
Watch this, I'm changing it up.
"Your friend Adam is fake."
♪ ♪
Let's just bait her.
Let's just see.
I sent it.
- All right.
- So we didn't find anything
on the pictures.
Phone number came
back with nothing.
Let's go to his Cameron page.
- Which is the page
she meet him on.
- Whoa!
- What?
- That's Mary's photo
on the Cameron page.
- Oh, well, that makes sense,
because this
is the one that says,
"In a relationship with Mary."
Look at this.
Just fishing for compliments.
"Show love to my profile pic."
I mean, this guy's just
looking for flirts.
This situation is not
as straightforward
as it may have appeared.
- We've got--We've got nothing.
- So I think we should
pull out the big guns.
I think we should use
LexisNexis,
which is a very powerful
search engine.
- It's like a hardcore database
of articles, journals--
- Right.
Let's run his name.
He said he's in Alabama.
All right, perfect.
Running search.
- All right.
Oh!
We got--
- Okay.
- There's an Adam [bleep].
- Look, this one,
Adam Nelson [bleep], age 40.
- There seem to be two people
with the name Adam [bleep]
on Alabama, but they're older.
They're 40 and 43.
So this seems pretty legit.
- I mean, that's not good.
This is her nightmare.
Could this be a 40-year-old?
- Well, I don't know.
This is weird.
I'm not liking the way
this is going.
I've been a little suspicious
of Mary from the beginning.
The fact that she had this guy
this whole time
and she never mentioned him.
And the fact that a chronic
catfish could somehow
be falling for another catfish?
- You think Mary
is catfishing us?
- She's playing us.
Mary's on the show again.
She found a new way
to get on the show.
- You're jaded.
[cell phone rings]
- Oh!
- That's gotta be Skyler.
- Hello?
- We're looking into
your friend Adam.
- Can we, uh, FaceTime you?
- Great.
- Thanks.
- Hey, how are you?
- Um, nervous.
[laughs]
- We're here with a young lady.
Her name is Mary.
Who has been talking to Adam
for, like, three years.
I'm less interested in telling
you Mary's story
and more interested
in hearing your story.
- Yes.
- Who are you?
Where are you?
And how did you come
to meet Adam?
- My name's Skyler.
And I'm 17.
And I'm from North Carolina.
- Okay.
- And I met Adam on Facebook.
[dramatic music]
And we're dating.
[whirring noises]
- Oh, my God.
- I mean, this just went
from bad to worse.
So you are in love with Adam.
- Yes.
- Do you know him personally?
- We plan to actually
meet December 11th.
- That's right.
We saw that.
- And what's the plan?
- We're planning for him
to come visit me here.
- So, your parents know
about this guy?
- Yes.
- Have you video
chatted with him?
- One time.
- And did you see his face?
- Well, it was really late at
night, and it was really dark.
- We have reason to believe
that this guy is not
who he says he is.
- But why would he lie?
- There's a reason we've been
making this show
for six years.
He's not giving
a lot of evidence
of who he actually is.
And he seems to want to talk
to a lot of different girls.
- Y'all are making me
very nervous.
- Well, we're on the case.
Hopefully in the next day
we'll figure this out
and we'll let you know
once we do.
Um, but thank you.
- Sorry.
- See ya.
- Oh, boy.
So, wait a second.
- She's 17!
- Time out.
If he's messing with Mary,
if he's messing with Skyler,
and it looks like likely
many other young women,
as he's constantly casting his
net looking for young women
to flirt with him, like,
this guy is a problem.
This person is a menace.
- Mary, what's shaking?
- Send us the address.
We'll come meet you.
We got a lot to talk about.
- Let's go meet Mary
in the park,
tell her what we know,
what we don't.
- She's at the center of this.
Now, whether that's because
she's the victim
or she's the perpetrator,
I don't know.
But she's right in the eye
of the storm.
Anyway, so what are you doing
tonight now that we're in LA?
You got any plans?
- Probably just gonna work.
What are you doing?
- I have a date.
Laura's actually picking me up.
- Here we are.
- Hansen Dam.
- This is the park.
- I see her.
♪ ♪
How you doing?
- Good.
- Let's sit down and go over
what we've found.
[laughs]
- Well, so wait,
first of all,
how does it feel to kind of be
going through this now
from the other side of things?
- I mean, it's nerve wracking.
You get to figure out
the love of your life.
- Love of your life?
- Yeah.
We've talked about marriage.
Like, I wanna marry this kid.
- Mary, if you're really with
someone that you wanna marry
that wants to marry you,
they wouldn't be so hard
to meet up with.
- I just want it to be true so
much that I just believe him.
Like, I trust him.
- Here's my problem, though.
From the little bit of time
we've spent together,
I find you to be,
like I said already,
a very intelligent person.
- Mmm-hmm.
- And very self aware.
- Mmm-hmm.
- I'm having a hard time buying
that you're telling us
the whole story.
- I've told you
all that I know.
- It's hard for me to--
to buy that.
- I mean, I understand.I mean--
- Come on, there's something.
- No, there's--
- Nev...
- All right, so look.
We did our thing.
We ran his phone number.
It didn't come back
with anything.
There's another website
that we used.
We looked up Adam [bleep]
in Alabama
on this search engine that,
like,
journalists and serious
researchers use.
- Mmm-hmm.
- And we got two hits.
The first one is 43.
The second one is 40.
- Yeah.
- So either he's 40 or 43,
or his name isn't Adam.
So we went to his Adam profile.
This is the one that
his mom can see.
It didn't take long to notice
this girl Skyler [bleep].
- I don't see her comments.
- Why?
Are you blocked?
- Yeah.
- Oh, you don't see these?
- No, I've never seen those.
- Interesting.
- Well, we FaceTimed with her.
She had some very interesting
things to say.
She was under the impression
that she was dating Adam.
♪ ♪
She also told us
that they FaceTimed.
But it was late and dark
and she couldn't
see really anything.
- Wow.
- And how many times have you
tried or asked him
to FaceTime with you?
- All the time.
- All the time?
- Yeah.
- Skyler told us
one more thing,
which was that they
have a plan to meet.
- He's apparently going
to travel to North Carolina
to meet her on December 11th.
- Wow.
[sniffs]
- ♪ Did you think
to turn around ♪
♪ Or were you just
too far down ♪
♪ You're a human ♪
♪ ♪
♪ In my vision ♪
♪ ♪
♪ It's collision ♪
- It sucks.
- I don't wanna feel like thisat all.
- ♪ Or were you
just too far down ♪
- Whoever Adam is or isn't--
whoever's behind it--
is in a relationship with you,
in a relationship with Skyler.
You haven't been in a healthy,
loving relationship.
- But maybe you're kind of
accepting his behavior
because you yourself have
perpetrated that behavior.
Maybe you're getting a taste
of your own medicine.
- It doesn't feel good.
- Doesn't feel good.
- It hurts.
- We're going to figure out
who this person is,
and the only way to do that
is to meet them
and have them show us.
We gotta call Adam.
You ready?
- Yeah.
[phone line trilling]
- Hey, Adam?
This is Nev, uh, and Max
from "Catfish."
We're here with Mary.
- Yes, you're right.
That's true.
Mary was once a catfish
but she's no longer doing that.
She actually reached out to us,
uh, because,
as you know, she's been trying
to meet up with you.
- Well, how does she know that?
- We've been making this show
for five years.
Anybody can make
Facebook profiles.
I mean, that's pretty silly.
We just wanted to let you know
that, like,
we're aware of the situation.
But more importantly,
Mary wants to know
who you are and wants
to meet you.
- Okay, we'll take care
of flying Mary to you,
so long as you're willing
to make a little bit of time
out of your busy schedule
to just finally meet her.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Great.
- Are you in Alabama?
- Okay, make some time
for us this weekend,
and we'll reach out tomorrow,
and we'll figure this out.
It's gonna be great.
- All right,
bye.
- I'm ready,
and I wanna do this.
- I guess we're
going to Alabama.
- Bama.
- Hi, guys.
- Hey.
- Hey, look who it is.
- Hi.
- It's my girl.
- Oh, my gosh.
I'm gonna frickin fan girl.
- Oh, really?
You know Laura?
- Yeah, she tweeted at me.
[upbeat music]
- She didn't even get excited
about me.
- Yes, it's Mary!
- You did?
- You remember her?
- Give me a hug.
Of course I remember!
So, Nev filled me in
a little bit.
- Yep.
Well, not since today.
Today was a big day.
We spoke to this other girl--
- That he's "dating."
- Who he's also dating.
- You're in a place where
he can hurt you at this point.
It's been a few years.
- Yeah, I mean,
I'm gonna feel heartbroken.
- Regardless of who
this person is,
if you've been talking
for that long,
there's no way they're just
gonna be able
to drop the relationship
like that.
There's always a chance that
you can still have
that emotional connection
and maybe
it could turn into something.
- Yeah.
- If you respect yourself
and you're like,
"Okay, you can't date
"other girls online,
otherwise I'm not gonna
be around for you."
- Mmm-hmm.
- You just have to, like,
set your boundaries.
- Yeah.
- We're gonna go.
- Okay.
- Max, you can take Mary
back to the hotel.
- Sure.
- Thanks, Max.
- We'll go on our date.
You guys go on your date.
- Okay, yeah.
I'll see you in the morning
I guess bright and early
at the airport.
- Call when you get home.
- Okay.
- [laughs]
- And it was great to meet you.
- Me, too.
It was nice to meet you.
- Thank you.
I'm on your team.
- All right.
- Bye, guys.
- Bye.
- See you, bye.
- Aww, I love that
I get to meet Mary.
That's cool.
♪ ♪
- Okay, baby.
I gotta go.
- Stay till tomorrow night.
- I love you.
[kisses]
- Okay.
I left her a little note.
How much...I...
Love...
[upbeat music]
All right.
Made it to the airport.
Got my ticket.
First class.
- Yeah, first time first class.
- ♪ If you wanna know ♪
- ♪ If you wanna know
you better find out ♪
♪ For yourselves ♪
♪ And please baby please
baby please baby ♪
- ♪ If you wanna know
you better find out ♪
♪ If you wanna know you better
find out for yourself ♪
- Let's text Adam,
let him know we're here.
- This sucks.
I mean, I don't ever wanna make
anyone feel like this
ever again.
- Let's just say he wants
to be in a relationship.
Do you think you could
make this work?
- Yeah.
- The distance?
- Mmm-hmm.
[phone beeps]
- Adam just texted me.
- [both] Oh.
- He said he would meet us
if we came down,
and now he's busy today.
- Let's agree to meet tomorrow,
question mark?
[phone beeping]
- He said, "I'll get back with
you on that."
[tense music]
- This guy could be
a total no show.
[knocking]
- Hey.
- Hello.
- Hey.
- Good morning.
- How are you?
- I had a crying
moment last night.
- You did?
- Yeah, I laid in bed
and bawled my eyes out.
- Geez.
Should we try calling?
[dramatic music]
[phone trilling]
♪ ♪
[phone trilling]
- Sorry, but the person
you've called--
- What is he hiding?
Mary, last chance to tell us
if you've been lying
about anything.
♪ ♪
- I'm not lying about anything.
[both] All right.
- Should we try calling again?
[phone trilling]
[phone trilling]
- Yeah, hi, Adam?
Hey, uh, it's Nev, Max,
and Mary.
We're here, um,
so all we need now is a time
and place that works.
- Okay, well, great.
Look forward to seeing you.
Uh, see you soon.
[phone beeping]
- We got an address.
Mary, what's going on?
I mean, this is, like,
three years now
leading up to this moment.
- I'm thinking of, like, every
scenario of what could happen.
♪ ♪
So what I'm scared of is, like,
someone else is gonna walk out.
- Basically have to be ready
for anything right now.
- Well, this is our turn.
- Oh, God.
[exhales]
- This is it.
Tables have turned.
- Yeah.
- Well, let's, uh,
see how this goes.
♪ ♪
[knocking]
- Hello?
♪ ♪
- This is not a good feeling.
♪ ♪
[knocking]
♪ ♪
Oh, someone's coming.
[knocking]
[dramatic music]
- Someone's coming.
♪ ♪
[heavy breathing]
- Hey.
- Hey.
♪ ♪
Come on down.
- Is that him?
[whirring noises]
- Holy moly,
I can't believe it.
- What's your name?
- Adam.
- You're Adam?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
♪ ♪
- Thanks for showing up.
- I'm just happy to be here.
Like, glad to finally meet you.
- We're here because something
isn't lining up.
We don't know what that is.
But you know what that is.
Mary has a lot
of deep feelings for you.
And she needs to get
an explanation.
♪ ♪
- You love me, right?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- Well, I just wanted to ask
before opening up more
about some things.
♪ ♪
I am a female to male
transgender.
- Okay.
- I was scared to tell you
because you post everything
on Facebook.
I don't really wanna
broadcast it
like you do everything else.
- You're worried about
Mary's discretion.
- Yeah.
- Well then, you could be like,
"Hey, I haven't fully came out
to everyone
so I don't want you
to do it for me."
I mean, I don't care that
you're going into transition.
It's not an issue for me.
[happy music]
- Are you out to your family?
- I am.
But I don't exactly
get respect for it.
- I understand what it feels
like to be on the other side
and be embarrassed
of who you are.
- It's not necessarily
embarrassment.
This is Alabama.
- Yeah.
- Right.
- People don't take
that stuff lightly.
- Yeah, I know.
I understand.
- And we get that.
- I do.
- Coming on the show, I mean,
that's a big deal.
A lot of people are gonna know
about your situation.
It takes a lot of courage.
- This is not easy.
We all appreciate that.
Do you plan on staying here?
- No.
I plan on getting
out eventually.
- Where to?
- Anywhere.
Where people like me are more
socially acceptable.
But I basically have some
custody of my little sister.
And it's a huge responsibility
considering that I am only 20.
And I basically live alone.
So...
♪ ♪
- Do you have mouth cancer?
- I do.
I dip chewing tobacco,
and it caused me to have
precancerous cells in my mouth.
- Well, that's awful.
Have you stopped?
- I haven't stopped yet,
but I've cut down a lot on it.
- We also spoke to Skyler.
♪ ♪
You seem to also be in
a relationship with her.
You're supposed to meet her
on December 11th.
That was hurtful
for Mary to find out.
- The thing is, Skyler and I
are really just close friends.
♪ ♪
So, like,
it's not very serious with her.
- She thinks it is.
- Yeah, kinda makes me feel
like I'm not as important
as you try to make it seem.
- I know this is tough.
And you're kind
of dancing around it.
But we came all this way.
Do you want to be in
a relationship with Mary?
♪ ♪
- I do wanna be in a
relationship with you.
But I live here.
You live there.
Is there really any future to
it if we're not moving from it?
Like...
- I mean, you just said
that you wanna move
away from Alabama.
And...I mean, I would move
for you in a heartbeat.
♪ ♪
- Just the--Really, the thing
about it is, is like,
Let's just slow down on it.
I have a lot of stuff that
I have to take care of
before any of that can happen.
And even then, I feel if I
wanna date someone here,
I should be able to do that.
♪ ♪
But I wouldn't have a problem
with you doing that, either.
- Can we go now?
- If you wanna go to the car
for a second--
- Mmm-hmm.
- Yeah.
- ♪ I Won't stop you
from leaving ♪
♪ ♪
♪ I know that I'm not
what you wanted ♪
♪ Am I ♪
♪ Maybe it's all gonna
turn out all right ♪
♪ And I know that it's not ♪
♪ But I have to believe
that it is ♪
[sad music]
- [crying]
♪ ♪
- It hurts.
- It does.
- When you think about Mary,
do you think like,
"Ooh, I want to be with her?"
- I mean, I love Mary
and everything, but...
- What--What does that mean?
- I love the relationship
that we have.
But--
- As is.
- Yeah, like,
as it is right now.
- Right, she's far away,we text.
- Yeah, yeah.
- That's not a relationship.
- Well--
- I mean, that's a friendship.
That is not the relationship
she's looking for.
♪ ♪
There's a line that you've
crossed a few times now
between, like, innocently
flirting with someone
and intentionally manipulating
people's feelings.
You gotta be really
honest about it.
So that she can actually make
a decision for herself.
- Weirdly enough,
I still wanna go on a date.
[laughs]
- I don't blame you.
There's no doubt that Adam
likes you for you.
- Mmm-hmm.
- Hey.
I was just going to ask
if you would want to--
to go inside with Adam so that
you guys could talk
a little bit more
if you wanted to.
- Yeah.
- All right.
♪ ♪
Okay.
♪ ♪
Go in, talk,
we'll be out here.
Take your time.
♪ ♪
- [sighs]
♪ ♪
Let me ask you how you feel
about this relationship.
- I mean, I was under the
impression it was real.
Like we were dating.
♪ ♪
- Like, I feel bad for leading
you on with it.
But, like, we're on two totally
different pages.
This relationship on my end is,
like, more of a friendship.
- I just wanna go
on a date with you.
I won't post anything.
I don't care.
- I can't exactly be seen
in public with you.
♪ ♪
A recent ex of mine
came back into the picture
that lives around here.
♪ ♪
- I understand.
♪ ♪
- It didn't go as planned?
- No.
What happened?
How did--did it
not go well?
- No.
- I'm sorry.
- I care for you a lot,
but I [bleep]ed up
trying to make it
something it wasn't.
♪ ♪
And I'm sorry.
- Thanks for being honest.
- But that takes guts.I know.
So thanks for that.
Can we go?
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
- All right.
♪ ♪
- Sorry.
- It's cool.
At least he said it.
- That's a pretty raw deal.
- I think he's still figuring
out how to not be selfish
and just get what he wants
when it comes at the cost
of someone else.
- I got rejected on even
hanging out, so--
- Adam doesn't wanna
take you out,
but we do.
We'll have our own little date.
♪ ♪
- All right,
have a seat.
- Lesson is,
talk is cheap.
- Mmm-hmm.
- Actions speak louder--
- Than words.
- And when you're in
a relationship with someone,
they need to clearly do things
to show you that
they wanna be with you.
- Mmm-hmm.
- Now that this has
happened to you,
if you ever did have the urge
to catfish again,
you'd really be able to say,
"You know what, no."
- Yeah.
- 'Cause I know how that feels.
[cell phone rings]
- Oh, it's Laura.
- FaceTime her.
- Hey, sorry, we're filming.
Um, we're just wrapping
things up here.
- Laura, you know better than
to call when we're filming.
- Well, since you called,
hold on, let's FaceTime.
- What?
- Hi.
- What happened?
- Well, so, interestingly,
Adam was the person
in the photographs.
- Okay.
- Um, but he admitted
that he's never really been
interested in her
in a meaningfully romantic way,
so--
- How did Mary handle it?
- Well, you can ask her.
I mean...
- It sucked.
After all this time,
he just was like,
"Hey, just kidding."
- How did you leave
it with him?
- Um, awkward and probably
gonna delete his number
and never talk to him again.
I mean, I feel like that's how
it's gonna go down.
Like--
- You know that deep down
he's probably not
the worst guy ever.
- Yeah.
- He's probably going
through some things.
- Yeah.
- Big of you to just be like,
"I'm done with you."
- Yeah, I mean, if you had met
me when I was 20, Laura,
I don't think you would have
liked me very much.
- [laughs]
- I'm proud of you.
It seems like you're
handling it really well, so--
- Well, thank you.
- Okay, we're gonna
wrap things up.
- Bye.
- Love you.
[phone trilling]
- Whoa, look at those teeth!
- Whoa, look at the teeth!
- Oh my--Wow!
- Oh, my God!
Those are gorgeous!
- Thank you!
- Feeling more confident,
I imagine?
- I smile a lot more,
and I love it.
I love taking selfies
and everything else.
- That's awesome.
- Wow, that is great.
Any communication with Adam?
- Like, when we left,
he blocked me on everything.
But, uh, his girlfriend has
added me on Facebook.
- What?
- You'll never guess
who it is.
- Wait, who?
- What?
- Skyler, you know,
the girl you guys talked to
on the phone?
- Oh, that--
- Oh.
- She was, like, 17.
- Have they met?
- Yeah, he went down there
and met her.
Yeah.
- Interesting twist.
Mary, you are so much better
off not with this guy.
- Yeah.
- But are you
catfishing people?
- I swear.
I swear there's no
catfishing going down.
- You've come a long way, baby.
- Yeah.
- I think your resolution
for 2018 should be
to never be on another episode
of "Catfish."
- This is your last one.
- Good luck with everything.
See you.
- Bye, Mary.
- All right.
[phone call drops]
- Hey!
- Adam.
- What's up?
- Not much.
- Let's talk about Mary
for a second.
- Do you have any regrets
about the way things went down?
- You were pretty cold.
- Yeah...
- At least you acknowledge
that you probably could have
handled things
a little bit better.
- Yeah.
- We hear you've been talking
to Skyler.
- Yeah, I went to North
Carolina to see her.
- How did that go?
- She was cool.
I told her everything.
I didn't wanna keep
anything from her.
- All right, well,
I'm happy that both
you and Mary seem to be going
in good directions.
So thanks for being honest.
I know that wasn't
easy for you.
But it turned out to be
the right thing to do.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- Well, good luck
with everything.
- Bye, Adam.
- See you.
- Bye.
1097
00:41:16.
with sender Anonymous.
"You've caught me catfishing
in the past.
A "Catfish" repeat offender.
- Who could this be?
- Adam, age 40.
This is a nightmare.
- Could this be a 40-year-old?
[intense music]
- They're playing us.
They are a catfish.
Which means that
they're good liars.
♪ ♪
For the past six years,
Max and I have been
traveling the world--
- Whoo!
- Helping people
find out the truth--
- What the [bleep]?
- About their online
relationships.
- I feel so stupid right now.
- But in an age where
everyone knows everything
about everybody,
people are getting better
and better at hiding the truth.
- [together] What?
- Which is why this
time around,
every episode has double
the secrets--
- These are all connected
to that phone number.
- What?
- And double the reveals--
- There were some things
she didn't tell you guys.
That are going to seriously
blow your mind.
- What?
This is
"Catfish: The TV Show."
♪ ♪
I haven't seen you in a while.
- Well, what have you
been up to?
- Cleo's the best.
- Cleo.
- We got this new thing
that we do now.
Whenever she's getting, like,
a little fussy,
we go, "We're losing her!"
And then I go,
[mimics shock paddles]
- But now she does it.
So if I lay on the ground
and then say,
"We're losing him!Clear!"
She'll come over
and she'll go--
[mimics shock paddles]
- Aww.
- It's really cute.
We're losing him!
- All right,
let's do it.
- Ooh.
So this is an email
with the sender Anonymous.
- We've never gotten an email
from Anonymous.
A John Doe or Jane Doe.Weird.
- Hey Max and Nev,
this is really strange...
Normally this is the part
where I would tell you
who I am,
but I'm afraid if I do,
you'll close the email.
The thing is,
you've caught me catfishing
in the past.
A "Catfish" repeat offender.
Who is it?
- ♪ Not a single day goes by ♪
♪ Where you don't
cross my mind ♪
♪ Not a single day goes by ♪
♪ Where you don't cross my ♪
- Who could this be?
- "Three years ago,
I met Adam on Facebook."
- Who says, "frickin?"
- That girl--
- [together] Heather.
- From Pensacola.
- With the tall guy, Big Mike.
- "You're cool as crap."
- Right.
- I thought you were
cool as crap.
- It could be her.
- "Over the years, Adam and I
have dated on and off.
"But now he's my boyfriend.
"Adam lights up my day and has
made me feel things
I've never felt before."
"But only when I pretended
to be someone else."
"But Adam knows all about me
and still loves me."
So this is nice.
So it was a former catfish
who's now not catfishing,
but thinks she might
be getting catfished.
So that's interesting.
- I don't know if this
is a guy or a girl.
- That's true.
"Everything was perfect..."
- Karma's a bitch.
- "He refuses to meet,
"and while it's
been three years,
"we've never video chatted.
"It's heartbreaking and
embarrassing to think
I'm being catfished
by the guy I love."
- ♪ Not a single day goes by ♪
♪ Where you don't cross my ♪
♪ ♪
- You should just write back,
"Who dis?"
[both laughing]
- Let's just say,
"Hey Anonymous,
We wanna help.
Let's video chat."
- Who can this be?
I hope it's Jose.
- Oh, my God.
- If it--Could it be?
Could it be?
- I hope it is.
Jose!
Can we hear the Rosa voice?
- I mean,
I dunno what's going on.
You know, a lot of things been
changing in my life.
- Wow.
Should we go over to the board?
- Yeah, I think we should.
Our casting wall here of every
episode of the show ever.
- Who could this catfish be?
- Chastity, oh, my God,
I hope it's her.
- Derek, this is Chastity.
- Hi.
- We would love to help her.
I don't think she'd be, like,
afraid to reach out to us.
- Brandy?
Could be Brandy.
She was the one I went
to Texas to get.
- Oh, right.
- Hi, I'm Max.
- I'm Brandy.
- It just felt better to, like,
not be me.
- Wait, I hope it's Justin.
- I don't think he would ever
talk to us again.
[clapping]
- Who could this be?
- We'll see.
- Ever got anything back?
- Oh, we got it back!
That was fast.
- Okay.
"Thanks, guys.
I can video chat now
if you can.
My ID is..."
Wow, Anonymous.
- They are a catfish,
which means that they're good--
- They might be lying.
- At creating profiles.
- We should consider
that we might be
getting lied to right now.
This could all be
some weird set up.
Let's just keep our guard up.
All right,
start video call.
[phone trilling]
all: Hey!
- Mary.
- It's me.
- Holy [bleep],
what's up?
- Hi.
- This is Mary,
slash Ally.
- Yeah, this is Dylan.
- We just saw you this year.
The second time,
it was about Darien.
This is déjà vu.
What is it going to take
for you to stop catfishing?
- I don't know.
- We all tried to beg you
to stop catfishing.
- Are you still--
- No.
- I don't believe you.
- I am not, and I am
so proud of myself.
It's been a few months.
Being on the show.
I got dragged through
the mud pretty hard
on all my social media.
- I'm very sorry
that that happened.
- I knew, going on the show,
what was gonna happen.
Didn't expect the extent,
but I understood.
That was karma,
and it hurts.
But I deserve it.
I started going to therapy.
It's a real eye opener.
- Congratulations on
going to therapy
and working all that stuff out.
- I wanna believe you.
I'm excited for you
that you're growing up
and finding your
self confidence,
and that's awesome.
So we're gonna help you.
- Thank you, Nev.
- So tell us how you met Adam,
under what circumstances.
- We met three years ago.
- Wait a second,
so while you were
being a catfish,
you were having
a wonderful relationship as
yourself with this other guy?
- No, no, no.
Um, so...
When Adam would get in
a relationship back home,
he would dump me and
I'd just go back catfishing.
- Well, did he ever say,
"Hey, what the [bleep],
I saw you on "Catfish"?"
- Yeah, but he was like,
"I don't wanna talk
"about that because
that's a burn for you
"and you don't wanna
talk about it,
so let's not talk about it."
- Convenient.
- Yeah.
- All right, so, okay.
So give us the whole thing.
- We met online on
my "People you may know."
As Mary,
as Adam.
Well, as Cameron, actually.
But I met him as his picture.
Like, he had the real picture.
- Why the fake name?
- His mom and him are not
in each other's lives.
So he doesn't want his mom
to try to connect
to him on Facebook.
- He said he didn't want his
mom to find him.
So he uses an account
with the name Cameron.
Why is he so anti-Mom?
He has joint custody
of his little sister
with his grandparents.
- So you guys start--
You're crushing on him.
He flirts back with you.
- We start, you know,
talking all the time.
But video chatting
is not a thing.
When I would ask him,
he was like,
"I'm having an ugly day."
I'm like, okay,
everyone has an ugly day.
I totally understand.
- Every day.
all: [laughing]
Where does Adam live?
- Alabama.
- And what--You're in--
- Oklahoma.
- Oklahoma.
- I have asked him,
"Hey, let me come see you."
And he's like,
"I'm embarrassed for you
to meet my family."
Or, "I don't want you to come
into my little sister's life."
- But do you believe that?
- I feel like I don't have any
reason not to believe him.
- If it turns out that Adam
is not the guy in the pictures,
will that matter?
- No, I am still gonna love
him no matter what.
- No matter what he looks like?
- If he is old, I don't
know if I can pursue that.
- What's old?
- Um, I'm gonna say 40.
Over 40.
- Fair.
- I want to believe
he's not a catfish,
but at the same time,
I don't know.
- I'm excited.
I like this.
I like this.
It's different.
Something about Mary.
What can you say?
- I mean--
all: [laughing]
- We're gonna get you
on a flight to LA,
and we'll meet up and
we'll figure this out.
- All right,
see you soon.
- Wait, what did you make for
us last time we were there?
- Those cookies.
Can you bring a batch?
- Okay, okay.
- We gotta go, Mary.
We'll see you soon, okay?
- Bye.
- Mary.
- I wanna believe her.
But we should just be careful.
[upbeat music]
Let's go get our girl.
- Mary, Mary, quite contrary.
- Something feels off to me.
We know this girl's
lied in the past.
The only thing she's ever told
us the truth about
was that she can't stop lying.
- Oddly, like, one of the very
few people who's ever
been honest about that.
- Got her in my sights.
- Oh, my God.
She did bring cookies.
- Mary.
- Hi!
- Ooh, give me that.
Hi.
- Hi.
- Good to see you.
- Hey.
- Good to see you.
- Good to see you.
- Step into your chariot.
- First things first.
- Oh, man, that's good.
- Mmm.
What do you put in these?
- I can't tell you
guys my secret.
- So you are hiding
something from us.
I knew it.
- We're just gonna go
to this coffee shop.
- All right,
let's do it.
♪ ♪
So, look. Tell us everything
about this guy.
- Let's go way back
to three years ago.
- When I hit up Adam, we had,
like, one mutual friend.
I'm like,
"This boy is frickin hot."
I was like, "We should text."
And he was like, "All right,
sure, let's text."
So we started texting.
- ♪ What can you tell me now ♪
- He told me about two years
ago that he loved me.
We talk on the phone about
three or four times a week.
- ♪ 'Cause I know you care ♪
- He's always been there.
He pushed me.
He wants me to do better
in my life.
And it feels good.
I'm going to business school.
I'm going to get
brand new teeth.
And I am super excited to have
a beautiful smile finally.
Um, I'm gonna cry.
It sucks.
[laughs]Um...
When I lose weight,
he's like,
"You're beautiful just
the way you are,
"but if you wanna lose weight,
then you do it for you.
Don't do it for me."
And I want that.
I want someone that doesn't
care that I'm bigger
than other girls.
- ♪ 'Cause I know you care ♪
♪ Don't leave me in the blue ♪
- But I do wanna know
who I fell in love with.
- Let's see this guy.
- Okay.
- Let's see what
we're working with.
- Here we go.
- Yeah,
he's a good looking guy.
It looks like he's
in a doctor's office.
- He told me that
he has cancer.
[quirky music]
- Come on!
- Mary, come on.
- Get out and come back in here
and sit down and say,
"I'm dating a catfish.
I need your help."
You believe this guy?
He told me that he smokes.
He has mouth cancer.
So I was like,
"Makes sense."
- It's hard for me to buy that
someone as smart as you are
who's been catfishing
for four or five years
would fall for this
bull[bleep].
- You haven't really applied
everything you know
about catfishing to figuring
out who this guy is.
- I've done the Google
image search.
Nothing was there.
- Okay, well, that's good.
And I've done the phone number
search on Facebook,
and it pulls up him.
I trust him and, you know,
he's giving me, like,
his username and password
for certain social medias.
And I'd go on there and there
was nothing there.
- Yeah, but why won't
he meet you, then?
- I mean, anxiety,
and he's scared.
- Something's not adding up.
- My fear is that if it does
end up being someone who's not
the guy in the pictures
that you go back to needing
to catfish or other
coping mechanisms
that might not be healthy.
- I'm not gonna relapse because
I need to be strong
for myself and other people.
[sniffs]
So...
- All right.
- We're gonna figure this out.
Write us an email,
give us all the info
that you have.
- Let's go.
Let's get out of here.
Lots to do.
- We'll take you to your hotel.
[dramatic music]
[beeping]
- Okay.
- Here we are.
- Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.
- All right.
- I don't know.
- I mean, the things that
he's saying to her
are so saintly.
I don't know any 19, 20,
21-year-old guys
that are, like, that sweet.
Where were they when
I was a little girl?
- Something very fishy
going on here.
- One of the benefits being
at the headquarters,
we can finally use
the whiteboard.
We got Mary.
- Yeah.
- Mary is on her laptop,
and she meets Cameron.
- Cameron.
- Then she finds out Cameron--
- Is actually Adam.
- Mary is in love with Adam.
- Mmm-hmm.
- And Adam is in love
with Mary.
- Yeah.
- What's the problem?
- There is something between
Adam and Mary.
We don't know what it is.
- So you wanna put some
kind of a block?
- An obstruction.
We need to figure out
what said obstruction
actually is.
- Right.
That's our job.
- This is the mystery.
- Okay.
We got an email.
"Here's the info you
wanted for Adam.
His phone number.
"He lives in a small town
in Alabama and
is 20 years old."
"Here's all the photos
I have of him."
His Instagram.
Also here are the links
for his Cameron and Adam
Facebook pages.
- Let's take the pictures
and then run them.
- Right, right, right.
First image.
Here we go.
Oh, nothing.
Selfie.
Image number two.
Nothing.
- Nope.
- All right,
image number three.
No, come on.
- All right, so let's just
run his number.
Boom, what do we get?
What do we get?
Come on, come on, come on.
Nothing.
No name associated
with this number.
Let's go to his old Adam
Facebook page.
- Which is supposed
to be his real one.
- Well, that's right.
He doesn't want his mom to see
what's going on in his life,
so he posts stuff
on the Cameron page.
All right, so here's
his Adam Facebook.
Here's a post from
12 hours ago.
He mentioned this girl Skyler.
- That's not good.
- "Talking with you is great
when we watch movies."
- Oh, God, that's gonna hurt
Mary's feelings.
- And she wrote, "God, December
11th can't come soon enough."
[suspenseful music]
Sounds like they had plans
to meet.
Let's go to her page.
Here's some pictures.
- Yeah.
- She's real.
- She's real, she's real.
We gotta reach out to her.
- All right, well,
let's message her.
"Hey, Skyler.
Just wanted to let you know..."
Watch this, I'm changing it up.
"Your friend Adam is fake."
♪ ♪
Let's just bait her.
Let's just see.
I sent it.
- All right.
- So we didn't find anything
on the pictures.
Phone number came
back with nothing.
Let's go to his Cameron page.
- Which is the page
she meet him on.
- Whoa!
- What?
- That's Mary's photo
on the Cameron page.
- Oh, well, that makes sense,
because this
is the one that says,
"In a relationship with Mary."
Look at this.
Just fishing for compliments.
"Show love to my profile pic."
I mean, this guy's just
looking for flirts.
This situation is not
as straightforward
as it may have appeared.
- We've got--We've got nothing.
- So I think we should
pull out the big guns.
I think we should use
LexisNexis,
which is a very powerful
search engine.
- It's like a hardcore database
of articles, journals--
- Right.
Let's run his name.
He said he's in Alabama.
All right, perfect.
Running search.
- All right.
Oh!
We got--
- Okay.
- There's an Adam [bleep].
- Look, this one,
Adam Nelson [bleep], age 40.
- There seem to be two people
with the name Adam [bleep]
on Alabama, but they're older.
They're 40 and 43.
So this seems pretty legit.
- I mean, that's not good.
This is her nightmare.
Could this be a 40-year-old?
- Well, I don't know.
This is weird.
I'm not liking the way
this is going.
I've been a little suspicious
of Mary from the beginning.
The fact that she had this guy
this whole time
and she never mentioned him.
And the fact that a chronic
catfish could somehow
be falling for another catfish?
- You think Mary
is catfishing us?
- She's playing us.
Mary's on the show again.
She found a new way
to get on the show.
- You're jaded.
[cell phone rings]
- Oh!
- That's gotta be Skyler.
- Hello?
- We're looking into
your friend Adam.
- Can we, uh, FaceTime you?
- Great.
- Thanks.
- Hey, how are you?
- Um, nervous.
[laughs]
- We're here with a young lady.
Her name is Mary.
Who has been talking to Adam
for, like, three years.
I'm less interested in telling
you Mary's story
and more interested
in hearing your story.
- Yes.
- Who are you?
Where are you?
And how did you come
to meet Adam?
- My name's Skyler.
And I'm 17.
And I'm from North Carolina.
- Okay.
- And I met Adam on Facebook.
[dramatic music]
And we're dating.
[whirring noises]
- Oh, my God.
- I mean, this just went
from bad to worse.
So you are in love with Adam.
- Yes.
- Do you know him personally?
- We plan to actually
meet December 11th.
- That's right.
We saw that.
- And what's the plan?
- We're planning for him
to come visit me here.
- So, your parents know
about this guy?
- Yes.
- Have you video
chatted with him?
- One time.
- And did you see his face?
- Well, it was really late at
night, and it was really dark.
- We have reason to believe
that this guy is not
who he says he is.
- But why would he lie?
- There's a reason we've been
making this show
for six years.
He's not giving
a lot of evidence
of who he actually is.
And he seems to want to talk
to a lot of different girls.
- Y'all are making me
very nervous.
- Well, we're on the case.
Hopefully in the next day
we'll figure this out
and we'll let you know
once we do.
Um, but thank you.
- Sorry.
- See ya.
- Oh, boy.
So, wait a second.
- She's 17!
- Time out.
If he's messing with Mary,
if he's messing with Skyler,
and it looks like likely
many other young women,
as he's constantly casting his
net looking for young women
to flirt with him, like,
this guy is a problem.
This person is a menace.
- Mary, what's shaking?
- Send us the address.
We'll come meet you.
We got a lot to talk about.
- Let's go meet Mary
in the park,
tell her what we know,
what we don't.
- She's at the center of this.
Now, whether that's because
she's the victim
or she's the perpetrator,
I don't know.
But she's right in the eye
of the storm.
Anyway, so what are you doing
tonight now that we're in LA?
You got any plans?
- Probably just gonna work.
What are you doing?
- I have a date.
Laura's actually picking me up.
- Here we are.
- Hansen Dam.
- This is the park.
- I see her.
♪ ♪
How you doing?
- Good.
- Let's sit down and go over
what we've found.
[laughs]
- Well, so wait,
first of all,
how does it feel to kind of be
going through this now
from the other side of things?
- I mean, it's nerve wracking.
You get to figure out
the love of your life.
- Love of your life?
- Yeah.
We've talked about marriage.
Like, I wanna marry this kid.
- Mary, if you're really with
someone that you wanna marry
that wants to marry you,
they wouldn't be so hard
to meet up with.
- I just want it to be true so
much that I just believe him.
Like, I trust him.
- Here's my problem, though.
From the little bit of time
we've spent together,
I find you to be,
like I said already,
a very intelligent person.
- Mmm-hmm.
- And very self aware.
- Mmm-hmm.
- I'm having a hard time buying
that you're telling us
the whole story.
- I've told you
all that I know.
- It's hard for me to--
to buy that.
- I mean, I understand.I mean--
- Come on, there's something.
- No, there's--
- Nev...
- All right, so look.
We did our thing.
We ran his phone number.
It didn't come back
with anything.
There's another website
that we used.
We looked up Adam [bleep]
in Alabama
on this search engine that,
like,
journalists and serious
researchers use.
- Mmm-hmm.
- And we got two hits.
The first one is 43.
The second one is 40.
- Yeah.
- So either he's 40 or 43,
or his name isn't Adam.
So we went to his Adam profile.
This is the one that
his mom can see.
It didn't take long to notice
this girl Skyler [bleep].
- I don't see her comments.
- Why?
Are you blocked?
- Yeah.
- Oh, you don't see these?
- No, I've never seen those.
- Interesting.
- Well, we FaceTimed with her.
She had some very interesting
things to say.
She was under the impression
that she was dating Adam.
♪ ♪
She also told us
that they FaceTimed.
But it was late and dark
and she couldn't
see really anything.
- Wow.
- And how many times have you
tried or asked him
to FaceTime with you?
- All the time.
- All the time?
- Yeah.
- Skyler told us
one more thing,
which was that they
have a plan to meet.
- He's apparently going
to travel to North Carolina
to meet her on December 11th.
- Wow.
[sniffs]
- ♪ Did you think
to turn around ♪
♪ Or were you just
too far down ♪
♪ You're a human ♪
♪ ♪
♪ In my vision ♪
♪ ♪
♪ It's collision ♪
- It sucks.
- I don't wanna feel like thisat all.
- ♪ Or were you
just too far down ♪
- Whoever Adam is or isn't--
whoever's behind it--
is in a relationship with you,
in a relationship with Skyler.
You haven't been in a healthy,
loving relationship.
- But maybe you're kind of
accepting his behavior
because you yourself have
perpetrated that behavior.
Maybe you're getting a taste
of your own medicine.
- It doesn't feel good.
- Doesn't feel good.
- It hurts.
- We're going to figure out
who this person is,
and the only way to do that
is to meet them
and have them show us.
We gotta call Adam.
You ready?
- Yeah.
[phone line trilling]
- Hey, Adam?
This is Nev, uh, and Max
from "Catfish."
We're here with Mary.
- Yes, you're right.
That's true.
Mary was once a catfish
but she's no longer doing that.
She actually reached out to us,
uh, because,
as you know, she's been trying
to meet up with you.
- Well, how does she know that?
- We've been making this show
for five years.
Anybody can make
Facebook profiles.
I mean, that's pretty silly.
We just wanted to let you know
that, like,
we're aware of the situation.
But more importantly,
Mary wants to know
who you are and wants
to meet you.
- Okay, we'll take care
of flying Mary to you,
so long as you're willing
to make a little bit of time
out of your busy schedule
to just finally meet her.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Great.
- Are you in Alabama?
- Okay, make some time
for us this weekend,
and we'll reach out tomorrow,
and we'll figure this out.
It's gonna be great.
- All right,
bye.
- I'm ready,
and I wanna do this.
- I guess we're
going to Alabama.
- Bama.
- Hi, guys.
- Hey.
- Hey, look who it is.
- Hi.
- It's my girl.
- Oh, my gosh.
I'm gonna frickin fan girl.
- Oh, really?
You know Laura?
- Yeah, she tweeted at me.
[upbeat music]
- She didn't even get excited
about me.
- Yes, it's Mary!
- You did?
- You remember her?
- Give me a hug.
Of course I remember!
So, Nev filled me in
a little bit.
- Yep.
Well, not since today.
Today was a big day.
We spoke to this other girl--
- That he's "dating."
- Who he's also dating.
- You're in a place where
he can hurt you at this point.
It's been a few years.
- Yeah, I mean,
I'm gonna feel heartbroken.
- Regardless of who
this person is,
if you've been talking
for that long,
there's no way they're just
gonna be able
to drop the relationship
like that.
There's always a chance that
you can still have
that emotional connection
and maybe
it could turn into something.
- Yeah.
- If you respect yourself
and you're like,
"Okay, you can't date
"other girls online,
otherwise I'm not gonna
be around for you."
- Mmm-hmm.
- You just have to, like,
set your boundaries.
- Yeah.
- We're gonna go.
- Okay.
- Max, you can take Mary
back to the hotel.
- Sure.
- Thanks, Max.
- We'll go on our date.
You guys go on your date.
- Okay, yeah.
I'll see you in the morning
I guess bright and early
at the airport.
- Call when you get home.
- Okay.
- [laughs]
- And it was great to meet you.
- Me, too.
It was nice to meet you.
- Thank you.
I'm on your team.
- All right.
- Bye, guys.
- Bye.
- See you, bye.
- Aww, I love that
I get to meet Mary.
That's cool.
♪ ♪
- Okay, baby.
I gotta go.
- Stay till tomorrow night.
- I love you.
[kisses]
- Okay.
I left her a little note.
How much...I...
Love...
[upbeat music]
All right.
Made it to the airport.
Got my ticket.
First class.
- Yeah, first time first class.
- ♪ If you wanna know ♪
- ♪ If you wanna know
you better find out ♪
♪ For yourselves ♪
♪ And please baby please
baby please baby ♪
- ♪ If you wanna know
you better find out ♪
♪ If you wanna know you better
find out for yourself ♪
- Let's text Adam,
let him know we're here.
- This sucks.
I mean, I don't ever wanna make
anyone feel like this
ever again.
- Let's just say he wants
to be in a relationship.
Do you think you could
make this work?
- Yeah.
- The distance?
- Mmm-hmm.
[phone beeps]
- Adam just texted me.
- [both] Oh.
- He said he would meet us
if we came down,
and now he's busy today.
- Let's agree to meet tomorrow,
question mark?
[phone beeping]
- He said, "I'll get back with
you on that."
[tense music]
- This guy could be
a total no show.
[knocking]
- Hey.
- Hello.
- Hey.
- Good morning.
- How are you?
- I had a crying
moment last night.
- You did?
- Yeah, I laid in bed
and bawled my eyes out.
- Geez.
Should we try calling?
[dramatic music]
[phone trilling]
♪ ♪
[phone trilling]
- Sorry, but the person
you've called--
- What is he hiding?
Mary, last chance to tell us
if you've been lying
about anything.
♪ ♪
- I'm not lying about anything.
[both] All right.
- Should we try calling again?
[phone trilling]
[phone trilling]
- Yeah, hi, Adam?
Hey, uh, it's Nev, Max,
and Mary.
We're here, um,
so all we need now is a time
and place that works.
- Okay, well, great.
Look forward to seeing you.
Uh, see you soon.
[phone beeping]
- We got an address.
Mary, what's going on?
I mean, this is, like,
three years now
leading up to this moment.
- I'm thinking of, like, every
scenario of what could happen.
♪ ♪
So what I'm scared of is, like,
someone else is gonna walk out.
- Basically have to be ready
for anything right now.
- Well, this is our turn.
- Oh, God.
[exhales]
- This is it.
Tables have turned.
- Yeah.
- Well, let's, uh,
see how this goes.
♪ ♪
[knocking]
- Hello?
♪ ♪
- This is not a good feeling.
♪ ♪
[knocking]
♪ ♪
Oh, someone's coming.
[knocking]
[dramatic music]
- Someone's coming.
♪ ♪
[heavy breathing]
- Hey.
- Hey.
♪ ♪
Come on down.
- Is that him?
[whirring noises]
- Holy moly,
I can't believe it.
- What's your name?
- Adam.
- You're Adam?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
♪ ♪
- Thanks for showing up.
- I'm just happy to be here.
Like, glad to finally meet you.
- We're here because something
isn't lining up.
We don't know what that is.
But you know what that is.
Mary has a lot
of deep feelings for you.
And she needs to get
an explanation.
♪ ♪
- You love me, right?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- Well, I just wanted to ask
before opening up more
about some things.
♪ ♪
I am a female to male
transgender.
- Okay.
- I was scared to tell you
because you post everything
on Facebook.
I don't really wanna
broadcast it
like you do everything else.
- You're worried about
Mary's discretion.
- Yeah.
- Well then, you could be like,
"Hey, I haven't fully came out
to everyone
so I don't want you
to do it for me."
I mean, I don't care that
you're going into transition.
It's not an issue for me.
[happy music]
- Are you out to your family?
- I am.
But I don't exactly
get respect for it.
- I understand what it feels
like to be on the other side
and be embarrassed
of who you are.
- It's not necessarily
embarrassment.
This is Alabama.
- Yeah.
- Right.
- People don't take
that stuff lightly.
- Yeah, I know.
I understand.
- And we get that.
- I do.
- Coming on the show, I mean,
that's a big deal.
A lot of people are gonna know
about your situation.
It takes a lot of courage.
- This is not easy.
We all appreciate that.
Do you plan on staying here?
- No.
I plan on getting
out eventually.
- Where to?
- Anywhere.
Where people like me are more
socially acceptable.
But I basically have some
custody of my little sister.
And it's a huge responsibility
considering that I am only 20.
And I basically live alone.
So...
♪ ♪
- Do you have mouth cancer?
- I do.
I dip chewing tobacco,
and it caused me to have
precancerous cells in my mouth.
- Well, that's awful.
Have you stopped?
- I haven't stopped yet,
but I've cut down a lot on it.
- We also spoke to Skyler.
♪ ♪
You seem to also be in
a relationship with her.
You're supposed to meet her
on December 11th.
That was hurtful
for Mary to find out.
- The thing is, Skyler and I
are really just close friends.
♪ ♪
So, like,
it's not very serious with her.
- She thinks it is.
- Yeah, kinda makes me feel
like I'm not as important
as you try to make it seem.
- I know this is tough.
And you're kind
of dancing around it.
But we came all this way.
Do you want to be in
a relationship with Mary?
♪ ♪
- I do wanna be in a
relationship with you.
But I live here.
You live there.
Is there really any future to
it if we're not moving from it?
Like...
- I mean, you just said
that you wanna move
away from Alabama.
And...I mean, I would move
for you in a heartbeat.
♪ ♪
- Just the--Really, the thing
about it is, is like,
Let's just slow down on it.
I have a lot of stuff that
I have to take care of
before any of that can happen.
And even then, I feel if I
wanna date someone here,
I should be able to do that.
♪ ♪
But I wouldn't have a problem
with you doing that, either.
- Can we go now?
- If you wanna go to the car
for a second--
- Mmm-hmm.
- Yeah.
- ♪ I Won't stop you
from leaving ♪
♪ ♪
♪ I know that I'm not
what you wanted ♪
♪ Am I ♪
♪ Maybe it's all gonna
turn out all right ♪
♪ And I know that it's not ♪
♪ But I have to believe
that it is ♪
[sad music]
- [crying]
♪ ♪
- It hurts.
- It does.
- When you think about Mary,
do you think like,
"Ooh, I want to be with her?"
- I mean, I love Mary
and everything, but...
- What--What does that mean?
- I love the relationship
that we have.
But--
- As is.
- Yeah, like,
as it is right now.
- Right, she's far away,we text.
- Yeah, yeah.
- That's not a relationship.
- Well--
- I mean, that's a friendship.
That is not the relationship
she's looking for.
♪ ♪
There's a line that you've
crossed a few times now
between, like, innocently
flirting with someone
and intentionally manipulating
people's feelings.
You gotta be really
honest about it.
So that she can actually make
a decision for herself.
- Weirdly enough,
I still wanna go on a date.
[laughs]
- I don't blame you.
There's no doubt that Adam
likes you for you.
- Mmm-hmm.
- Hey.
I was just going to ask
if you would want to--
to go inside with Adam so that
you guys could talk
a little bit more
if you wanted to.
- Yeah.
- All right.
♪ ♪
Okay.
♪ ♪
Go in, talk,
we'll be out here.
Take your time.
♪ ♪
- [sighs]
♪ ♪
Let me ask you how you feel
about this relationship.
- I mean, I was under the
impression it was real.
Like we were dating.
♪ ♪
- Like, I feel bad for leading
you on with it.
But, like, we're on two totally
different pages.
This relationship on my end is,
like, more of a friendship.
- I just wanna go
on a date with you.
I won't post anything.
I don't care.
- I can't exactly be seen
in public with you.
♪ ♪
A recent ex of mine
came back into the picture
that lives around here.
♪ ♪
- I understand.
♪ ♪
- It didn't go as planned?
- No.
What happened?
How did--did it
not go well?
- No.
- I'm sorry.
- I care for you a lot,
but I [bleep]ed up
trying to make it
something it wasn't.
♪ ♪
And I'm sorry.
- Thanks for being honest.
- But that takes guts.I know.
So thanks for that.
Can we go?
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
- All right.
♪ ♪
- Sorry.
- It's cool.
At least he said it.
- That's a pretty raw deal.
- I think he's still figuring
out how to not be selfish
and just get what he wants
when it comes at the cost
of someone else.
- I got rejected on even
hanging out, so--
- Adam doesn't wanna
take you out,
but we do.
We'll have our own little date.
♪ ♪
- All right,
have a seat.
- Lesson is,
talk is cheap.
- Mmm-hmm.
- Actions speak louder--
- Than words.
- And when you're in
a relationship with someone,
they need to clearly do things
to show you that
they wanna be with you.
- Mmm-hmm.
- Now that this has
happened to you,
if you ever did have the urge
to catfish again,
you'd really be able to say,
"You know what, no."
- Yeah.
- 'Cause I know how that feels.
[cell phone rings]
- Oh, it's Laura.
- FaceTime her.
- Hey, sorry, we're filming.
Um, we're just wrapping
things up here.
- Laura, you know better than
to call when we're filming.
- Well, since you called,
hold on, let's FaceTime.
- What?
- Hi.
- What happened?
- Well, so, interestingly,
Adam was the person
in the photographs.
- Okay.
- Um, but he admitted
that he's never really been
interested in her
in a meaningfully romantic way,
so--
- How did Mary handle it?
- Well, you can ask her.
I mean...
- It sucked.
After all this time,
he just was like,
"Hey, just kidding."
- How did you leave
it with him?
- Um, awkward and probably
gonna delete his number
and never talk to him again.
I mean, I feel like that's how
it's gonna go down.
Like--
- You know that deep down
he's probably not
the worst guy ever.
- Yeah.
- He's probably going
through some things.
- Yeah.
- Big of you to just be like,
"I'm done with you."
- Yeah, I mean, if you had met
me when I was 20, Laura,
I don't think you would have
liked me very much.
- [laughs]
- I'm proud of you.
It seems like you're
handling it really well, so--
- Well, thank you.
- Okay, we're gonna
wrap things up.
- Bye.
- Love you.
[phone trilling]
- Whoa, look at those teeth!
- Whoa, look at the teeth!
- Oh my--Wow!
- Oh, my God!
Those are gorgeous!
- Thank you!
- Feeling more confident,
I imagine?
- I smile a lot more,
and I love it.
I love taking selfies
and everything else.
- That's awesome.
- Wow, that is great.
Any communication with Adam?
- Like, when we left,
he blocked me on everything.
But, uh, his girlfriend has
added me on Facebook.
- What?
- You'll never guess
who it is.
- Wait, who?
- What?
- Skyler, you know,
the girl you guys talked to
on the phone?
- Oh, that--
- Oh.
- She was, like, 17.
- Have they met?
- Yeah, he went down there
and met her.
Yeah.
- Interesting twist.
Mary, you are so much better
off not with this guy.
- Yeah.
- But are you
catfishing people?
- I swear.
I swear there's no
catfishing going down.
- You've come a long way, baby.
- Yeah.
- I think your resolution
for 2018 should be
to never be on another episode
of "Catfish."
- This is your last one.
- Good luck with everything.
See you.
- Bye, Mary.
- All right.
[phone call drops]
- Hey!
- Adam.
- What's up?
- Not much.
- Let's talk about Mary
for a second.
- Do you have any regrets
about the way things went down?
- You were pretty cold.
- Yeah...
- At least you acknowledge
that you probably could have
handled things
a little bit better.
- Yeah.
- We hear you've been talking
to Skyler.
- Yeah, I went to North
Carolina to see her.
- How did that go?
- She was cool.
I told her everything.
I didn't wanna keep
anything from her.
- All right, well,
I'm happy that both
you and Mary seem to be going
in good directions.
So thanks for being honest.
I know that wasn't
easy for you.
But it turned out to be
the right thing to do.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- Well, good luck
with everything.
- Bye, Adam.
- See you.
- Bye.
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