Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 39 - Cherie & Avion - full transcript
Cherie enlists the help of Nev and Justin to find out more about the man she sent sexy pictures to.
- Cherie has been
talking to Avion
for the past five months.
- He's like,
"I'll tell you who I am,
but you have
to follow my rules."
That was, like, kind of
"Fifty Shades of Grey."
- Oh.
We've been trying to figure out
whatever we can
about this guy Avion.
- Never had a married person
cheating on their spouse
as a catfish.
- My heart rate
is up right now.
Oh, man.
- Oh.
- Oh, get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Nev, Nev!
[dramatic musical sting]
- Hey, guys, Nev here,
and we're back
with a brand new batch
of all new "Catfish" episodes.
Let's do it.
We've been the making
the show for over seven years.
We done over 125 episodes.
- You're a coward, man.
- And what's amazing
is we're still encountering
things we've never seen before.
He was dead for a couple days.
What?
- Everybody in Hawaii
is in on this.
- ♪ Hard to see it's just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
- You wait to fall in love.
We never had
two hopefuls hook up.
All new deceptions.
- He just lied
about so much [bleep].
- And new what-the-[bleep]
firsts that are gonna
completely flip the script
on what you think
you know about "Catfish."
- He has a twin.
- An identical twin.
So join me and all
our favorite co-hosts...
- Are we gonna get jumped?
- Oh, my God.
- As we dive head-first
into an all new season
of episodes,
each with a unique
"Catfish" first.
- ♪ Won't they see it's just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
- Justin,
don't take too much off.
[laughs]
- what's going on?
- Hey, man.
- How's everything?
- I got some work
you could do here for me.
[laughter]
- Let's go!
- I love the hair.
- Thanks, man.
It was time for a change.
All right, you're back.
- Back for more.
Let's go, let's go.
- All right, we got an email
here from Cherie.
"Dear Nev and Justin,
my name is Cherie.
"I live
just outside Baltimore.
"I'm a sales rep
at a cell phone company,
and I'm 26 and single."
- Mm.
- Easy now.
♪ ♪
"I'm writing
because I'm in
"a super-messy
situation right now.
"I've been communicating
with this guy named Avion,
"who lives nearby,
but will not reveal
his true identity."
- Red flag.
- Yeah.
"Five months ago,
"Avion reached out to me
with a flirty text,
"saying that I had sold him
a tablet at work
"and that he was
a fan of mine.
"He made finding out
his identity a game
"where I had
to put clues together
"in order to solve the mystery.
I was into it."
- ♪ Got me lined up ♪
♪ What did you do? ♪
♪ Is it true love? ♪
♪ Is it voodoo? ♪
"I went through all
my sales slips,
"trying to figure
out who this guy was,
"but I came up with nothing.
"We kept messaging each other.
"The flirtation
was juicy enough
"where I could enjoy
the fantasy
of a mysterious sexy stranger."
- ♪ Is it voodoo? ♪
- "Until, a few weeks ago,
he finally asked me
"to meet him face to face.
"I wasn't sure about it,
"but my roommate agreed
to come with me, so I went.
He was a total no-show."
- Womp, womp, womp.
- "I began thinking
that this whole thing
"might be some sort of prank.
"Avion and I have exchanged
some explicit photos
"and now I know
that I can't trust this guy,
"and I need to know who he is.
"I know this isn't your
typical 'Catfish' love story,
"but I really need to figure
this mystery man out.
I hope you will help me.
Cherie."
- ♪ I keep running
just to find you ♪
♪ ♪
- Wow, if Avion wanted
to get her attention
and kind of make this fun game,
he did a good job.
And it would've all been
leading to meeting up--
- But he didn't show up.
- But then he didn't show up,
so it's like--
- What's he doing this for?
- Right.
All right, well,
let's call Cherie.
Yo.
- Hello.
- What's up?
- How are you?
- Fine.
It's so nice
to meet you guys.
- Nice to meet you, too.
- I'm Justin.
- Oh, I know who you are.
- Oh, okay.
You live in Baltimore?
- Yes, like right outside
of it, pretty much.
- Okay, so your email
is a little different.
- I would say it's more
of a spicier story than usual.
Five months ago, I got a text
message from this guy,
and he's like,
"I came to your store.
I purchased
a tablet with you."
I don't necessarily ever give
my number out at work,
so I'm thinking to myself,
"Okay, what's going on?"
But I kept entertaining
the situation
'cause it turned into,
like, a little mysterious
"Fifty Shades of Grey"
type situation.
So I'm like,
"Okay, this is cute."
I'm 26.
I'm single.
Like, you know?
Let me mingle a little bit.
But the thing is
is that he would not
give me his name at first.
This literally
turned into, like,
some sexy Rumpelstiltskin
type of, you know, stuff.
Next, I send, like,
a little picture,
and I'll give you my name.
And, you know, being flirty.
And so it turned into a little
exchange of pictures
and stuff like that.
Finally, he gave me his name.
Avion.
- And have you talked
to Avion on the phone?
- No, I have not.
- Mm.
- And what about social media?
Does he have any of that?
- No.
I Google-searched the photo,
I Google-searched the name.
Literally could not
find one single
Instagram, Twitter,
Facebook, Snapchat.
Anything that was literally
under that name.
- So what do you know
about this guy?
Do you know what he does?
- He says he's a contractor.
- How old is he?
- He says 29.
- Do any of your friends
know him?
Have they heard of him?
- Yeah.
- No, and I'll ask
my co-workers,
"Which one of y'all
gave him my phone number?
Which one of you did that?"
But nobody owned up to it.
- You live close to each other.
There's no reason
you shouldn't meet up,
so what was the plan?
- So after I got his name,
he asked me to meet
at a hotel with him.
And, of course, I had
a million reservations
about that.
So I sit at the bar
for a little bit,
but I don't see anybody, like,
with a resemblance to him.
So I finally get up.
I go to the desk
'cause he also
ordered a room, too.
And I had a picture of
the reservation on my phone.
- He had texted
the reservation?
Like, confirmation?
- Yes, so I give it to
the guy at the front desk.
So he looks up at me,
and he's, like,
"Um, Miss, I think
your reservation is fake."
I'm texting him like,
"What's going on?"
I don't get, like,
any reply at all.
So I wake up the next morning,
and he has the absolutely
terrible BS excuse like,
"Oh, I got pulled over.
I got a DUI."
And all this other stuff.
And I'm like,
"Oh, what's the odds?"
- What about the fake
reservation?
Did he ever respond about that?
- He keeps on trying
to reassure me that
it was a real reservation
and that he went to the hotel
and stuff like that.
I'm like,
"Yeah, there's no way."
- Right.
So you've got
what on one hand feels
like a creepy secret admirer.
- Yeah.
- But on the other hand,
kind of feels like someone
who could just be
messing with you.
- Right. At this point,
it's getting serious because
you have photos of me.
So it's like, now I gotta
figure out who you are.
Why did you want my photos?
Like, what's the purpose
of all this?
- And so somehow
he got your number
and he seems to know enough
about you that at least
he knows you work
at a cell phone store.
- Yeah.
- Now, is your
social media public?
- Yes, all of them.
- So if I wanted to,
I could find your Instagram,
I could probably
see where you work
and obviously who
your friends are.
- Yeah, but after a while,
he started telling me
information
that you can't
find on Facebook.
- Oh.
Like what?
- Like eventually, he said
that he actually knew my mom,
and my mother does not
give out her
government name to anybody.
- Wow.
- She usually lets
everybody, like, call her
Mama or some nickname
or something.
- And he knew her
by her government name?
- Yes.
- So it could be someone
from your past?
- Yes.
- You've got me hooked.
- Yeah, me too.
[laughs]
- We're gonna get
to the bottom of this.
We're gonna
find out who Avion is.
- Okay.
- You already did
some searching,
but maybe there's
some more we can do.
- Either way,
we got you, though.
- I hope so.
- See you soon.
- All right, see you, Nev.
- Bye.
- Man. I kind of feel that
it's someone around her that,
for some reason, just wants
to play a trick on her.
But why, though?
- Right, it's unclear
what the motive is.
- Mm-hmm.
- I want to find
out who this guy is.
Plus, you know, she's single.
Could be good for you.
Get you that
unlimited data plan.
- [laughs]
- All right, let's get on it.
- Absolutely.
- ♪ I've been out ♪
♪ Walking through the park,
I've seen you there ♪
- Cherie and Avion.
Whoever this person is could
have a big crush on her,
and they're too afraid
to meet in person,
or it could be someone
messing with her.
- I feel it's definitely
someone she knows, though,
because he or she
or whoever Avion is knows
a lot of just deep information.
- ♪ With my baby! ♪
- All right.
Let's see if we can't get
to the bottom of this.
- Let's do it.
- Whoa.
- Hey, Nev.
- Whoa, she was ready.
[laughter]
- All right.
- You guys can get comfy.
Yeah.
- All right, let's get into it.
All right, so tell us again
how this all started.
- Okay, so, like, it first
started, I was at work one day,
and I get this text message
from this guy like,
"Hey, girl, I've been
watching you."
And I'm looking like--
- Whoa.
See, you didn't tell us that.
- Initially, I'm just like
straight, "Who is this?"
And he's like,
"I'll tell you who I am,
but you have
to follow my rules."
- So he set it up from
the beginning as like a game.
- Yes. And he's like, you know,
you send me a picture,
da-da-da-da-da,
and I will send you my name.
Now this is like
all the way a game.
So, like, we're flirting
and stuff like that.
And eventually,
that was like how I got
the small pieces
of information
that I did end up getting.
- What kind of pictures
did he ask you for?
- Explicit.
You know, like,
rated-R pictures of me.
Stuff like that.
- You out there.
- What did he send you back?
- I mean, a few downstairs
pictures, I guess,
if you want to call them.
Like, you know?
Like I said, it was, like,
kind of "Fifty Shades of Grey."
- I'm just amazed that you've
gone along with this
so long
without knowing this guy.
- Well, after a while,
I had to 'cause it's like,
you have my photos
and stuff like that,
and I don't know
what you might do.
'Cause, I mean, guys get
a little vengeful at times,
and that's at the same time,
if it's a guy,
'cause this might be, like,
a whole female that
absolutely hates my freakin'
guts that I don't know of,
or something like that,
that's trying
to get back at me.
- When you Google-searched him
and put the pictures in,
nothing came up?
- Nothing.
Google-searched the photos,
Google-searched the name,
Facebook search...
- Wow.
- I've literally
searched everywhere.
- Well, let's see
a picture of this guy.
- Okay.
- This is, like,
a hot guy model dude.
And then, do you have
the reservation?
The hotel thing in here?
- Yeah, I do.
This is the reservation.
- Yeah, it does look
like a res--
- It looks choppy.
- It does when
you look closely.
But at first,
it's pretty convincing.
- It is.
- If someone sent this to me,
I wouldn't look that closely.
I would think it was legit.
- Yes.
- What about your just--
your texts with him?
- Are you sure
you want to see those?
- Oh, for sure.
- Some of it is
absolutely very explicit.
- Okay, so, February 5th,
- Yeah.
- "I want you bad, girl."
- Right.
- Wow.
"Who this?"
"First of all,
we're gonna set some rules."
- Yeah, see?
- Whoo!
- "I'll let you know
who I am when I'm ready,
"if I'm ready, because
I don't want to mess
up what I'm trying to do."
- He's about his business.
- And then you said,
"I don't know.
You might kill me
or something."
- [laughs]
- He liked it.
- He said thumbs up.
- "The only thing I'm going
to kill is that [bleep]."
- Wow.
- [laughs]
- And then he wrote,
"Consensually,"
which is incredible.
[laughter]
- No, seriously.
- Wow.
- I mean, are you into this?
- I mean, yeah.
- Okay.
- He's clearly
trying to take control.
He wants things
in his own hands.
- And I don't like that
'cause that's not usually
my position in anything.
Usually, I'm the dominant one
in most of, like,
all of my relationships.
I feel like that's what made me
spiral into this situation
'cause I'm not
in control of it,
so I spent a lot of time
trying to get in control of it.
- Do any of your friends know
about the freak side of you?
- Oh, yeah, my friends know.
- Because it would take
a lot of balls
for someone who doesn't know
that you're into
this sort of thing
to come at you that hot.
- Yeah.
- Let's do some research.
Let's see
what we can find out.
- Let's do it.
- Fifty shades of gr-Avion.
[laughter]
- There it goes.
- Here we go.
- You're in good hands.
- That was crazy.
- Very aggressive.
- Yeah.
- Man, he was talking spicy.
She should've definitely
took more steps
before sending pictures,
showing herself,
just to protect herself.
- Right.
I mean, she did.
She let her curiosity
get the better of her,
and now she's in a situation
where she's compromised,
and she's afraid of this person
and what they could do.
And I'm concerned for her.
- Let's see what's going on.
Oh, wow.
- What's up?
- What up?
- There he is.
- He doing it.
- Come on through.
Welcome to the newsroom.
- Good morning.
- Let's crack this case.
All right, so Cherie and Avion.
Five months ago,
Cherie gets a random text
from an unknown number.
He says, "Hey, girl, we're here
to play this game with me.
"I'm not gonna
tell you who I am,
"but you're gonna do things
that I want you to,
"and maybe I'll slowly
reveal who I am."
- Mm-hmm.
- And it worked.
She kind of liked not knowing.
- And it has to be someone
that's close to her because
he knows her
mother's first name.
- Right, he either knows her,
has met her,
or is simply, like,
observing her.
- Yeah.
- Anyway, all right.
So let's see what we can find.
"Hey, guys, I wish I had more,
but this is all
"the information
I have on Avion.
"His full name
is Avion Whitaker.
He's 29,
and he's from Odenton."
And here's his number.
All right, so let's just do
an image search.
All right, here we go.
Nope. No match.
Okay, let's try
this next picture.
- Let's see,
let's see, let's see.
- No.
All right,
so let's search the number.
So this one's
a Maryland number.
Odenton, right?
And no name.
And it comes up as a landline,
which probably means
that it's a text app.
Huh.
- And a text-free app,
it could be any random
area code, right?
- Yeah, no, you can pick
that from anywhere.
I mean,
I'm assuming it's not him
in the picture
and his name's not Avion.
The only thing that seems
to be true
is that he might live
in Odenton
because he knew she worked
at a cell phone company.
So let's look for Odenton.
Is it possible
to post something
on an Odenton bulletin board
and say,
"Can anyone tell me
who this is?"
What's this one?
It's an Odenton
community group.
Here we go.
"This is a group
"for the Odenton,
Maryland community.
Feel free to post
whatever you would like."
I'm gonna post his photo.
"My name is Nev
"and I make a show
called 'Catfish.'
"Looking for Avion Whitaker.
Anybody know this man?"
All right, let's do it.
Post.
So what else
can we even look at?
[phone chimes]
- Who's that?
- I can't really talk
right now.
We're filming.
- [crying]
- What's up, guys?
[baby babbling]
- [growls]
- [growls]
You guys are having fun.
- No, we haven't found him yet.
We joined a community
Facebook group page
to ask people where he says
he lives if they know him.
Never done that.
- What?
- Someone messaged you.
- I gotta go.
- Bye.
All right, so wait a second.
Oh, here we go.
"I saw your post on Facebook.
Do you have a number
I can call?"
From Monica Whitaker.
Same last name.
- Wow.
- Okay.
"Hey, Monica,
please give me a call."
Okay.
Delivered.
[phone rings]
Hello?
- Yes, is this Monica?
- Speaking to Nev.
I'm glad you reached out.
We've been trying to figure
out whatever we can
about this guy Avion.
And you share
a last name with him.
- So you're married
to a guy named Avion.
- What was that woman's name?
Do you remember?
- I see.
So that's not your husband
in the photos.
- Got it.
Well, this must be
upsetting for you.
I'm sorry that you're
having to deal with this.
- Yeah.
- That would be great.
We'd love to talk to you.
- Okay.
No, we'll come talk to you.
Just us.
- Sure.
You can just text me
on this number
when you're ready,
and we'll be over there.
- Okay, thank you, Monica.
See you soon.
- Wow.
- [exhales]
That's crazy.
- Whoa.
So it's pretty messed up
that this married dude
started this fake account.
I don't know
that we've ever had
a married catfish.
Catfish don't tend
to be married--
- And the wife got him.
Caught him red-handed.
- That's a "Catfish" first.
This now, like,
a much trickier situation.
- Yeah.
- Because she's clearly upset.
[phone chimes]
Oh, she texted me.
"Hey, it's Monica.
"I can meet you at Towsers
Branch Park in an hour."
Okay, I think we just gotta
go talk to this lady.
- Let's do it.
- If there's any information
for us, Monica's gonna have it.
- Yeah, she's gonna have
all of it, too.
- I don't think we've ever had
a married person
cheating on their spouse
as a Catfish.
- [exhales]
That's some
home-wrecking [bleep].
We might've put
Mr. Whitaker on blast.
- Well, she saw that quick.
I mean, we posted that
on the thing,
and I guess right away,
she's recognized the photo
'cause she saw that
that was what he was using.
- Mrs. Whitaker,
we are coming for you.
- Here on Evergreen Woods.
Cars over here.
An interesting
location to choose.
- What if it's one of them?
You think we got 'em
on the court?
- Oh, here's a car.
That may...
It looked like a guy driving.
Could be wrong.
Oh, oh, what a second.
No, that is a guy.
- Could just be parking.
- That ain't the guy?
- Yeah, I think he had nothing
to do with it.
Oh, he's coming--
he's part
of the basketball squad.
All right.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Catfish, where are you?
We're really waiting.
[phone chimes]
- Oh, wait a second.
I got a text.
Ugh.
"I thought about it.
"I'm sorry
for wasting your time,
"but I can't blow up
my marriage on national TV.
I have kids to think about."
If she doesn't want
to come on the show,
then she definitely doesn't
want him coming on the show.
- I say ask for more time.
Maybe a phone call,
conversation,
we can find out who the guy is.
- All right,
so let's see if she can speak.
- So she knows
who has her nudes.
- Let's go tell Cherie
what we found out.
Hopefully, Monica
will get back to us.
[phone chimes]
Oh, there it is.
What'd she say?
"No.
"Please, leave my family alone.
"She knows he's a married man,
and she's getting
what she deserves."
- See, it's deeper.
- I don't want to think
Cherie is lying to us,
but why would she talk
to this guy
if he's weird and mysterious,
somehow ends up revealing
that he's married.
Like, what is she doing?
- Does she know who he is?
- We gotta go talk to her
because this is crazy.
Maybe we're not getting
the whole story.
- Mm-hmm.
- Man.
You never know
who you can trust.
- But is she even
a credible source?
'Cause we don't even
know who that is.
- Right, well,
that also could be the catfish.
- Yeah.
- Right?
She could be making this up.
This could be a decoy
for her to avoid coming clean.
Now I don't know
who to believe.
I don't know.
I think the two most likely
scenarios right now
are that Monica's
telling us the truth.
- Mm-hmm.
- And her husband has been
cheating with Cherie.
- And Cherie knows.
- Or Monica is Avion,
and made up this whole
husband nonsense.
Maybe it's always been Monica
and she just made up the Avion.
- Mm-hmm.
- Well, I didn't think
to question her
when she first called.
She sounded like
a woman in despair.
Something's
gonna reveal itself.
When we get there
and we talk to Cherie,
like, there's more.
- Yeah.
- Let's call Cherie.
[phone ringing]
- Yes, hello?
- Hey, it's Nev and Justin.
We wanted to come meet up.
We're a little unclear
about some details,
and we're hoping you could
clear some things up.
- Okay, no problem.
- Okay, great.
We'll be over there
in a little bit.
- All right.
- Okay.
Moment of truth.
Has Cherie been hiding
something from us?
- The last-minute cancellation
with Monica...
She didn't come,
so how credible is she?
- Right.
Who do we believe?
Let's get
to the bottom of this.
- Hello, honeys,
how you doing today?
Welcome.
- Hi, hi. Good.
- Let me take you guys outside.
Sit down.
- All right.
We got a lot to talk about.
[exhales]
Well, we're still trying
to figure this out.
- Okay.
Get on the ball.
- But we've got some stuff
to talk about.
So let's show you
what we looked at.
We went and checked
the phone number.
It told us that
it's probably just a text app.
But that is a phone number
for Odenton.
So that sort of could
mean something,
or it could mean nothing.
So then,
we thought
Odenton's a small community.
- Yeah, it's a small area.
- But we just thought,
let's post something
on the Facebook community page.
- All right.
- Someone's bound to...
- Say, "Yeah."
- Have something to say, right?
So we put up this post.
And then someone
will send me a message.
And the message
was from Monica Whitaker.
And it said...
Now, obviously,
I don't have to tell you
when I saw this person's
name that, like,
I assumed that there
was a connection.
- Right.
- So I gave her my number,
and she called us.
We had a very
brief conversation.
- Okay.
- She's married to Avion--
- Oh, snap.
- Whitaker.
- She said,
"My husband has been
pretending to be Avion."
So that's not his real name.
- Yeah.
- "And that I caught him
talking to you."
She knew you.
Like, she knew who you were.
- Yeah, she definitely
knew you.
- [gasps]
- "And I saw that he was using
"the pictures of this other guy
"and told him he's gotta stop.
"And I thought he had stopped,
"but then I just saw
that you guys are out here
still looking for Avion,
so I figured he hasn't."
- Right.
- And so I said,
okay, well,
what can you tell us about him?
And she said,
will you meet me?
I'd rather talk
about this in person.
- Okay.
- So then, we drive
all the way out to this park...
- Yes.
- And finally, she texts me,
"I thought about it.
"I'm sorry
for wasting your time,
"but I can't blow up
my marriage on national TV.
"Please, leave my
family alone."
- Ooh.
- "She knows
he's a married man,
and she's getting
what she deserves."
- [gasps]
I didn't do nothing.
- Did you know he was married?
- No.
- Why would she say that?
- I have no idea.
Honestly, if I found out that
my husband was messaging
a woman and I found out
who she was,
I would've reached out to her.
- Now look, all I know
is that a woman called us.
We spoke to a woman.
- Yeah, for sure.
- So check this out.
There's a chance...
that Avion is Monica.
- Ouch.
- And in an effort
to try and get us
to leave this whole thing alone
and stop pursuing them,
figured,
"Oh, I'll reach out to them,
"tell them I'm his wife,
and to leave it all alone..."
- Right.
- "And hope that they go away."
- And she tried to bring,
like, the family into it.
- Right, make them feel bad.
Right, exactly.
- Sympathize for her.
- Right.
- Well, I don't.
- She's being manipulative.
- She did call you
a home-wrecker
on the phone.
- Ooh.
That is--ooh.
- Forgot about that.
- How dare she?
- Yeah.
- We searched the number--
- The only thing we haven't
done is because we didn't
think of it was search
Monica's phone number
that she called us on.
So let's just do that.
- It says was recently
a landline.
- Yeah,
so it's definitely fake.
- That it's fake.
- Yeah
So if Monica's phone number
is a text app,
and she's trying to tell us
that she's married to this guy
and to leave it all alone
and go away,
Monica's probably Avion.
- Yeah, most likely.
- So I don't know what else--
we don't have anything
else we can search.
So we could just try
calling Avion.
- You could try that.
- Have you ever
tried calling him?
- No.
[phone ringing]
- We're sorry.
This person
is not available right now.
- Right.
- Of course you're not.
- Let's just try texting.
"Hey, Avion,
"this is Nev
"from 'Catfish' TV show.
"I am here with Cherie
and hoping to speak with you."
All right.
We'll have to wait
and see what happens.
[phone chimes]
Oh. Text.
"Hey, this is Avion.
"I know you're in town,
"and I'm ready to meet Cherie.
Can you meet me
in Odenton tomorrow?"
Uh, so wait a second.
So all of a sudden, now--
- You want to meet.
- He wants to meet.
"Yes, we can.
"But how do we know
you'll really show up?"
Oh, whoa.
What?
He just sent a screen shot
of someone else's conversation.
Question mark, question mark.
"I was supposed
to meet the Catfish show
"but I stood them up.
I told them to leave us alone.
It's over."
Whoa.
Okay, so wait,
he just sent us a screen shot
of his conversation
with presumably his wife.
And he wrote back,
"Huh? What do you mean?
What's going on?"
And then they wrote back,
"It's over."
And then he said,
"Okay, but I want
to come clean."
Then they said,
"Well, I don't."
And there's
another number here.
It says it's
a text plus number.
- I'm on it.
[bleep].
- Let's see, let's see.
- Wait, didn't we see
that one already?
That's the same one Monica had.
- Okay, so that's also
a fake number,
so that also might be
a fake message.
- Two fake numbers talking to--
- Well, is he texting himself?
Like, is Monica
texting herself?
- You can definitely do that.
- That's pretty sophisticated.
All right,
well, either way,
that's a somewhat
convincing screen shot
that, like, he and his wife
were talking about this.
If that even is his wife.
I mean,
this could just be two catfish
arguing about whether or not
to come clean.
- For sure.
- "Okay.
"Well, meeting up
and explaining
"all this will do everyone
a lot of good.
Just give us a time and place."
- Please.
- Oh.
"I'm not sure how much
good she deserves."
- Oh, wow.
- Dang, what did I do?
- What did you do?
- Yeah, why is she so mad?
- I don't know.
I swear to God I go to work
and I come home, y'all.
- [laughs]
- I swear.
- Why they hating
on you like that?
- I have no idea.
- Do it for yourself.
All right, well,
we made contact.
They want to meet.
I think we just have to hope
they follow through.
- I would actually like
to clear my name.
I'm not a home-wrecker
or anything like that.
- Yeah, also that.
And also just have a clear
conscience and know that
you don't have
to constantly be, like,
waiting and worrying that
someone's gonna mess with you
or post your photos.
- Exactly.
'Cause if I know who you are,
you'd be a lot more hesitant
about what you post about me.
- All right, so look, as soon
as we hear something back,
I'll let you know.
- Okay.
- All right.
- I enjoyed you guy's time.
- Hang in there.
- I'll try.
- Appreciate you.
- All right.
- See you later.
- Bye, you guys.
- Whoop.
Who is he?
Who is Avion?
Is Monica and Avion
the same person?
- Anything.
'Cause that's very hard to make
any sense out of this...
from any angle.
- Yeah.
- It's like a house of mirrors.
- All right, well,
today is the big day.
- Yes, sir.
- No check-in yet from Avion.
- Is Avion and Monica
the same person?
I feel it's the same person.
- In which case,
it's probably--
well, Monica may not
be her real name, but--
- It's a girl, I think.
- Probably a woman.
- Yeah.
- Who is posing as a man.
All right, well,
I'm gonna text Avion.
Good morning.
- Avion.
- "When and where
are we meeting?"
[phone chimes]
Oh. Whoa.
That was fast.
- He said,
"You can meet me at [bleep].
I'm here.
Come whenever."
- Let's go.
- Okay, great.
"We will be there."
Okay, cool.
Let's call Cherie.
- Hello?
- Good morning.
- Good morning, Nev.
How are you?
- I just texted Avion,
and he texted right back,
gave me an address,
and said he's there
and we can come meet him.
- I'm ready whenever
you guys are.
- All right,
so we're gonna come scoop you
and then we'll all
just drive over there.
- Okay, perfect.
- All right,
we'll see you soon.
Put your chims on.
- [laughs]
- Let's do it.
- Yes, sir.
[upbeat music]
- There she is.
Wow, she is RTG.
- You was ready.
- You're not messing around.
- Never.
- You all right?
- Yeah.
I'm here for business.
- What do you expect?
Like, what are you thinking?
- I'm really having, like,
a WTF moment in my head.
Like, I feel like
that's how it's gonna be.
First of all, you have a wife.
Yeah, so, nah.
And you have kids.
- Well, we don't know
if that's--
I mean, he's never
told that to you.
Now, obviously,
why would he?
But--
- But then it's like--
you lied about a whole family
and kids and a wife and--
- He got his wife
coming after you.
She mad.
- Yeah, and now I'm
a home-wrecker and stuff.
- What are you actually
trying to get out of this?
- Um...
well, one, I'm gonna give him
a piece of my mind.
- Okay.
- I need all of the photos
pretty much deleted.
And I also want to know
the reason behind all this.
I'm just hoping
that it goes--
I feel like there's malicious
reason behind this,
so I can't get that part
out of my mind, to be honest,
so it makes me very concerned.
- Well, it's just
around the next turn
and we're basically there.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Damn.
My heartbeat right now.
I'm at 112.
Ooh, I think my hands
are shaking.
Oh, it's real.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Do we get out now?
- All right, let's do this.
♪ ♪
- Okay.
Here goes nothing.
♪ ♪
All right.
♪ ♪
- Oh, man.
- Oh.
- Nev, Nev!
- Uh-oh.
- Oh, get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Okay.
Here goes nothing.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- My heart rate is up.
♪ ♪
- Oh, man.
- Oh.
- Nev, Nev!
- Uh-oh.
- Oh, get the [bleep]
out of here.
Nah.
Nah, that,
nah--absolutely dead.
Like, I gotta be Boo-Boo
the fool, like--no.
- You really fell for this?
- No.
- Who is this?
- An old friend of mine
who doesn't know his place.
- You forgot me?
- We ready to go?
- What's going on?
Who is this guy?
- Somebody I was, literally,
just old friends with.
- What happened?
- Yeah.
- She asked to borrow
some money from me,
and I haven't heard
from her since.
- That is so childish.
- All right,
so hold on a second.
What's your name?
- My name's Buddy.
- And you guys
go back as friends?
- Only a little bit.
About three or four years,
but we're honestly
not that close.
- About five years.
Since 2012.
- Okay.
So you guys were friends.
- Uh-huh.
We used to hang out.
- And close enough
that you lent her
some money here and there.
About how much
do you think you lent her?
- A couple hundred dollars.
- First of all,
I didn't ask you for anything.
This man blew up my phone
one day and I didn't answer,
so he went into my account
and paid my bill
and then told me I need
to pay him back
because he thought
that my phone was off.
Now I'm borrowing money
from you?
- You definitely asked.
You needed help.
- But you didn't
specifically say,
"Can I borrow money?"
He just--
- I didn't ask him
to pay my bill.
- It said it was off.
- So wait,
so what did you want?
- I wanted my money back.
That's all this was for.
That's what started Avion.
♪ ♪
- There were several days
where she said,
I'll bring you
your money this day.
Oh, my check's funny.
I'll bring you money this day.
- I blocked his number.
- My commission check's short.
I'll bring you
your money this day.
And it's been months.
And I haven't heard
a word from you.
- Because I'm not friends
with you anymore.
Do you really think the money
had something to do with it?
You're a [bleep] friend.
- When you said,
on your word--
- I don't care.
I don't care.
My word is is that
I don't [bleep] with you.
- And you spent the money.
You spent the Lyft money
to go see this fake person.
But you couldn't put the money
in your friend's hands.
- You know what I owe you?
A good-bye and have a nice
mother[bleep] day.
- Wait, hold on.
Were y'all just friends?
Strictly friends?
- Yes, nothing more than that.
I wouldn't let this man
touch me with a 10-foot pole.
- Yeah, you don't like her.
- No. That's my friend.
That's my homie.
- You never had
interest in her.
- No.
- Okay.
Well, that's confusing.
Your initial interaction
with her as Avion
was very sexual.
- It was because,
in the beginning,
I was just saying
the worst things I could say,
and then she started
sending these nudes.
Like, I didn't think she would
carry on as far as she did.
- But she says
you were asking for that.
- I wasn't.
You offered them up.
And so I said, sure.
I'll take those.
And I'm telling you,
these was the nastiest things
I have ever got in my life.
- Go ahead.
Continue lying.
- Like, that's fine.
- I'm waiting.
- I saw your insides.
- Oh.
- At the end of the day,
we're not friends,
so all of this
converse right here
really doesn't matter,
so I'm gonna go ahead
and let you go.
Go ahead and continue.
- And that's why Monica
came up with Avion for you.
- Who came up with--
- Monica.
- There is no--
- She's a friend of mine.
I have had a partner
from the beginning.
- Who is she?
- Wait, hold on.
- First of all,
he has no wife named Monica,
he knows nobody named Monica,
he just told you guys
I've known him for years.
- I mean, you can knock
on the door and see--
and talk to her.
- All right,
so hold on a second.
We know her name's not Monica.
Who's helping you?
- I feel like it's Desire.
- Wait, wait,
who's Desire?
- Some female friend
that he has.
Y'all think that I know--
that like, I know
this whole situation--
that's why I'm saying--
- Well, we don't know [bleep]
so can I--
- You can talk,
if she'll answer.
- Let me see
if she'll come out.
♪ ♪
Hello?
Hi.
- Who the [bleep] is Desire?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Hello, how you doing?
- Fine.
- Desire, right?
- Yeah.
- We're just trying to get
the whole story here.
I don't know to what extent,
but you're involved,
so it would be helpful
if you wanted to talk to us.
- But I--
- Okay.
- If, yeah, if that's
something you're okay with.
All right.
So I'm just trying
to get the story.
Hi.
- Hi.
Nice to meet you.
- This is pure comedy.
- How do you guys
know each other?
- I actually physically
take care of him legally.
Like, I'm his caretaker.
His aide.
- And you knew Cherie,
then, as well.
- Only through him.
- Okay, just through him.
- Um, she was my neighbor
around the same
time Cherie was.
- Right.
- Mm-hmm.
- She lived
in the building above me.
- Third floor.
- And that was
a few months ago?
- Yeah.
- Look, this is a lot.
Let's go inside.
- Go ahead.
- I can do that and we can
do that and we can talk
about the rest
of the situation.
- Okay.
- Can come on and have a seat.
- Okay, thank you.
Okay.
All right, so let's find
some common ground here.
Your motive for this was that
you felt you were owed money.
- Right, so like--
she's a bad person, basically,
so let's just say all
the worst [bleep] we can say,
and see how she responds.
I would ask Desire,
hey, what should I say?
And, Desire, being a female,
would be like,
well, say this and say that,
and then she'll block you--
'cause I wouldn't want anybody
to talk to me that way.
- But it just--
if someone does something
that you don't like,
it doesn't give you permission
to do something else...
wrong.
- I feel like it does.
'Cause you, like,
you don't have any integrity.
Like, you think that
it's just okay to just
take from people and keep it
moving like you don't know me.
I didn't expect it
to just keep escalating.
- And initially,
we thought it was funny.
And we were
just kind of like,
let's see how far we can go
with this kind of thing.
- Because, as a black woman,
that's the right thing to do.
But we can continue.
- It was funny.
- I really don't even know
why we have her in the room,
and I would actually
much more prefer
if she wasn't here at all.
- She is Avion--
that's what I'm saying.
- I'm the one that actually
came up with the name.
- Good job, good job.
- Well, whatever.
- [laughs]
- You can turn your head
all you want.
I would love nothing
but to knock one of
these cameras into your head.
I hope I don't see you
anywhere in the streets.
- Oh, that's really great.
So now you're threatening me.
- Yes.
- I'm glad I have
lots of witnesses.
- Me, too, and I definitely
feel threatened, too,
'cause you have
naked pictures of me, so--
- We deleted them.
- We didn't keep them.
We deleted them.
- Nobody kept your nudes.
- Can we make sure
that those are deleted?
- You can check 'em.
You can check mine.
- Just for her safety,
make sure she's good.
♪ ♪
- Delete anything
you see of you
if it makes you feel better.
- Are those you?
- Oh, yeah.
I know my booty when I see it.
- If you see you, take you out.
- Wait, so you did have them.
- Yeah, you don't have any.
- Yeah, nudes that she said
she didn't send me.
- But why did you just lie and
say that you didn't have them
and you had them
in the hidden folder?
- But you do!
- Look, clearly
there's hurt feelings here,
'cause you keep wanting to try
to make her feel bad and she--
- I don't want people trying
to take advantage of me.
- Right, but, okay--right--
- I don't like it.
- But catfishing somebody
and taking their nudes
isn't the same
as borrowing some money
and ghosting somebody.
I mean, what you did
was kind of [bleep] up.
- You have no idea.
You took from me.
- Okay, and this is what
you did to me.
- Yeah, I know.
- Okay.
- This conversation,
unfortunately, is not evolving
into anything positive.
We've cleared up
the pictures issue,
which, I know, was
something important for you.
- Oh, that was the main cause.
- Right?
You know who
you've been talking to.
There's no more pieces of
the story that we don't know.
- No.
- All right, so...
Can we just agree that,
if the pictures are deleted,
like, sure,
she [bleep] you over,
but you [bleep] her over.
Can we just call it over?
- Sure.
- And that's that?
- Sure, we can do that.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- I'm ready to go.
- Let's roll.
We'll head out.
- Thank you, thank you.
- Good luck with everything.
- Yes.
- Nice meeting you as well.
Good luck with everything.
[dream pop playing]
I feel even if you did
owe him money
and you guys were friends--
- I still don't feel like
it should've went that far.
- Yeah, exactly.
- Forget all that.
What did we learn?
Be careful who you send
your pictures to.
- Yeah, no, at this point,
nah, he's ruined the fun
for everybody.
- Yeah.
- So that's the end of it
for you?
You're ready to leave it be?
- Yeah, pretty much.
♪ ♪
- What's up?
- What up?
- Hey.
- How you doing?
- I'm fine.
- Have you spoken to
Buddy and Desire?
- Of course not.
- [laughs]
- Are you sad at all about how
everything kind of panned out?
- It does suck, 'cause after
having a friend
for like three or four years
and stuff like that,
but it's really been like
a weight lifted off
of my shoulders.
And I had decided to stop
being friends with him
originally,
so after what happened,
it really just confirmed,
yeah, dawg, it's time to go.
- And you got
your nudes deleted.
- That's right, that's right.
- That's the main thing.
- All right, Cherie.
- All right.
You guys have a good one.
- Later.
- Take care.
- Bye.
- Hey, what's up, guys?
How's everything been going?
- Good.
- Pretty good actually.
- No more Avion.
You know, he's--he's gone now.
It was like, whoo!
Okay, we're done now.
We can kind of
get it off our chest.
We feel good about it.
- But do you think now,
having sort of seen
how it all panned out,
that, like, it was worth it
for you guys?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Because,
at the end of the day,
if I could've done more,
I would've.
She knows what she did
and she knows not to do that
so we hope that she won't...
- Or others.
Right.
- I don't know.
I mean, just stop with, like,
the weird, manipulative,
passive-aggressive [bleep].
Just, like, move on
with your life.
All three of you are better off
with that whole situation
behind you.
- Right.
- Sure.
- I think it's best if you guys
all just sort of move on.
- Life lessons.
- Life lessons, right.
- All right, guys.
- All righty.
- All right, God bless.
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talking to Avion
for the past five months.
- He's like,
"I'll tell you who I am,
but you have
to follow my rules."
That was, like, kind of
"Fifty Shades of Grey."
- Oh.
We've been trying to figure out
whatever we can
about this guy Avion.
- Never had a married person
cheating on their spouse
as a catfish.
- My heart rate
is up right now.
Oh, man.
- Oh.
- Oh, get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Nev, Nev!
[dramatic musical sting]
- Hey, guys, Nev here,
and we're back
with a brand new batch
of all new "Catfish" episodes.
Let's do it.
We've been the making
the show for over seven years.
We done over 125 episodes.
- You're a coward, man.
- And what's amazing
is we're still encountering
things we've never seen before.
He was dead for a couple days.
What?
- Everybody in Hawaii
is in on this.
- ♪ Hard to see it's just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
- You wait to fall in love.
We never had
two hopefuls hook up.
All new deceptions.
- He just lied
about so much [bleep].
- And new what-the-[bleep]
firsts that are gonna
completely flip the script
on what you think
you know about "Catfish."
- He has a twin.
- An identical twin.
So join me and all
our favorite co-hosts...
- Are we gonna get jumped?
- Oh, my God.
- As we dive head-first
into an all new season
of episodes,
each with a unique
"Catfish" first.
- ♪ Won't they see it's just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
- Justin,
don't take too much off.
[laughs]
- what's going on?
- Hey, man.
- How's everything?
- I got some work
you could do here for me.
[laughter]
- Let's go!
- I love the hair.
- Thanks, man.
It was time for a change.
All right, you're back.
- Back for more.
Let's go, let's go.
- All right, we got an email
here from Cherie.
"Dear Nev and Justin,
my name is Cherie.
"I live
just outside Baltimore.
"I'm a sales rep
at a cell phone company,
and I'm 26 and single."
- Mm.
- Easy now.
♪ ♪
"I'm writing
because I'm in
"a super-messy
situation right now.
"I've been communicating
with this guy named Avion,
"who lives nearby,
but will not reveal
his true identity."
- Red flag.
- Yeah.
"Five months ago,
"Avion reached out to me
with a flirty text,
"saying that I had sold him
a tablet at work
"and that he was
a fan of mine.
"He made finding out
his identity a game
"where I had
to put clues together
"in order to solve the mystery.
I was into it."
- ♪ Got me lined up ♪
♪ What did you do? ♪
♪ Is it true love? ♪
♪ Is it voodoo? ♪
"I went through all
my sales slips,
"trying to figure
out who this guy was,
"but I came up with nothing.
"We kept messaging each other.
"The flirtation
was juicy enough
"where I could enjoy
the fantasy
of a mysterious sexy stranger."
- ♪ Is it voodoo? ♪
- "Until, a few weeks ago,
he finally asked me
"to meet him face to face.
"I wasn't sure about it,
"but my roommate agreed
to come with me, so I went.
He was a total no-show."
- Womp, womp, womp.
- "I began thinking
that this whole thing
"might be some sort of prank.
"Avion and I have exchanged
some explicit photos
"and now I know
that I can't trust this guy,
"and I need to know who he is.
"I know this isn't your
typical 'Catfish' love story,
"but I really need to figure
this mystery man out.
I hope you will help me.
Cherie."
- ♪ I keep running
just to find you ♪
♪ ♪
- Wow, if Avion wanted
to get her attention
and kind of make this fun game,
he did a good job.
And it would've all been
leading to meeting up--
- But he didn't show up.
- But then he didn't show up,
so it's like--
- What's he doing this for?
- Right.
All right, well,
let's call Cherie.
Yo.
- Hello.
- What's up?
- How are you?
- Fine.
It's so nice
to meet you guys.
- Nice to meet you, too.
- I'm Justin.
- Oh, I know who you are.
- Oh, okay.
You live in Baltimore?
- Yes, like right outside
of it, pretty much.
- Okay, so your email
is a little different.
- I would say it's more
of a spicier story than usual.
Five months ago, I got a text
message from this guy,
and he's like,
"I came to your store.
I purchased
a tablet with you."
I don't necessarily ever give
my number out at work,
so I'm thinking to myself,
"Okay, what's going on?"
But I kept entertaining
the situation
'cause it turned into,
like, a little mysterious
"Fifty Shades of Grey"
type situation.
So I'm like,
"Okay, this is cute."
I'm 26.
I'm single.
Like, you know?
Let me mingle a little bit.
But the thing is
is that he would not
give me his name at first.
This literally
turned into, like,
some sexy Rumpelstiltskin
type of, you know, stuff.
Next, I send, like,
a little picture,
and I'll give you my name.
And, you know, being flirty.
And so it turned into a little
exchange of pictures
and stuff like that.
Finally, he gave me his name.
Avion.
- And have you talked
to Avion on the phone?
- No, I have not.
- Mm.
- And what about social media?
Does he have any of that?
- No.
I Google-searched the photo,
I Google-searched the name.
Literally could not
find one single
Instagram, Twitter,
Facebook, Snapchat.
Anything that was literally
under that name.
- So what do you know
about this guy?
Do you know what he does?
- He says he's a contractor.
- How old is he?
- He says 29.
- Do any of your friends
know him?
Have they heard of him?
- Yeah.
- No, and I'll ask
my co-workers,
"Which one of y'all
gave him my phone number?
Which one of you did that?"
But nobody owned up to it.
- You live close to each other.
There's no reason
you shouldn't meet up,
so what was the plan?
- So after I got his name,
he asked me to meet
at a hotel with him.
And, of course, I had
a million reservations
about that.
So I sit at the bar
for a little bit,
but I don't see anybody, like,
with a resemblance to him.
So I finally get up.
I go to the desk
'cause he also
ordered a room, too.
And I had a picture of
the reservation on my phone.
- He had texted
the reservation?
Like, confirmation?
- Yes, so I give it to
the guy at the front desk.
So he looks up at me,
and he's, like,
"Um, Miss, I think
your reservation is fake."
I'm texting him like,
"What's going on?"
I don't get, like,
any reply at all.
So I wake up the next morning,
and he has the absolutely
terrible BS excuse like,
"Oh, I got pulled over.
I got a DUI."
And all this other stuff.
And I'm like,
"Oh, what's the odds?"
- What about the fake
reservation?
Did he ever respond about that?
- He keeps on trying
to reassure me that
it was a real reservation
and that he went to the hotel
and stuff like that.
I'm like,
"Yeah, there's no way."
- Right.
So you've got
what on one hand feels
like a creepy secret admirer.
- Yeah.
- But on the other hand,
kind of feels like someone
who could just be
messing with you.
- Right. At this point,
it's getting serious because
you have photos of me.
So it's like, now I gotta
figure out who you are.
Why did you want my photos?
Like, what's the purpose
of all this?
- And so somehow
he got your number
and he seems to know enough
about you that at least
he knows you work
at a cell phone store.
- Yeah.
- Now, is your
social media public?
- Yes, all of them.
- So if I wanted to,
I could find your Instagram,
I could probably
see where you work
and obviously who
your friends are.
- Yeah, but after a while,
he started telling me
information
that you can't
find on Facebook.
- Oh.
Like what?
- Like eventually, he said
that he actually knew my mom,
and my mother does not
give out her
government name to anybody.
- Wow.
- She usually lets
everybody, like, call her
Mama or some nickname
or something.
- And he knew her
by her government name?
- Yes.
- So it could be someone
from your past?
- Yes.
- You've got me hooked.
- Yeah, me too.
[laughs]
- We're gonna get
to the bottom of this.
We're gonna
find out who Avion is.
- Okay.
- You already did
some searching,
but maybe there's
some more we can do.
- Either way,
we got you, though.
- I hope so.
- See you soon.
- All right, see you, Nev.
- Bye.
- Man. I kind of feel that
it's someone around her that,
for some reason, just wants
to play a trick on her.
But why, though?
- Right, it's unclear
what the motive is.
- Mm-hmm.
- I want to find
out who this guy is.
Plus, you know, she's single.
Could be good for you.
Get you that
unlimited data plan.
- [laughs]
- All right, let's get on it.
- Absolutely.
- ♪ I've been out ♪
♪ Walking through the park,
I've seen you there ♪
- Cherie and Avion.
Whoever this person is could
have a big crush on her,
and they're too afraid
to meet in person,
or it could be someone
messing with her.
- I feel it's definitely
someone she knows, though,
because he or she
or whoever Avion is knows
a lot of just deep information.
- ♪ With my baby! ♪
- All right.
Let's see if we can't get
to the bottom of this.
- Let's do it.
- Whoa.
- Hey, Nev.
- Whoa, she was ready.
[laughter]
- All right.
- You guys can get comfy.
Yeah.
- All right, let's get into it.
All right, so tell us again
how this all started.
- Okay, so, like, it first
started, I was at work one day,
and I get this text message
from this guy like,
"Hey, girl, I've been
watching you."
And I'm looking like--
- Whoa.
See, you didn't tell us that.
- Initially, I'm just like
straight, "Who is this?"
And he's like,
"I'll tell you who I am,
but you have
to follow my rules."
- So he set it up from
the beginning as like a game.
- Yes. And he's like, you know,
you send me a picture,
da-da-da-da-da,
and I will send you my name.
Now this is like
all the way a game.
So, like, we're flirting
and stuff like that.
And eventually,
that was like how I got
the small pieces
of information
that I did end up getting.
- What kind of pictures
did he ask you for?
- Explicit.
You know, like,
rated-R pictures of me.
Stuff like that.
- You out there.
- What did he send you back?
- I mean, a few downstairs
pictures, I guess,
if you want to call them.
Like, you know?
Like I said, it was, like,
kind of "Fifty Shades of Grey."
- I'm just amazed that you've
gone along with this
so long
without knowing this guy.
- Well, after a while,
I had to 'cause it's like,
you have my photos
and stuff like that,
and I don't know
what you might do.
'Cause, I mean, guys get
a little vengeful at times,
and that's at the same time,
if it's a guy,
'cause this might be, like,
a whole female that
absolutely hates my freakin'
guts that I don't know of,
or something like that,
that's trying
to get back at me.
- When you Google-searched him
and put the pictures in,
nothing came up?
- Nothing.
Google-searched the photos,
Google-searched the name,
Facebook search...
- Wow.
- I've literally
searched everywhere.
- Well, let's see
a picture of this guy.
- Okay.
- This is, like,
a hot guy model dude.
And then, do you have
the reservation?
The hotel thing in here?
- Yeah, I do.
This is the reservation.
- Yeah, it does look
like a res--
- It looks choppy.
- It does when
you look closely.
But at first,
it's pretty convincing.
- It is.
- If someone sent this to me,
I wouldn't look that closely.
I would think it was legit.
- Yes.
- What about your just--
your texts with him?
- Are you sure
you want to see those?
- Oh, for sure.
- Some of it is
absolutely very explicit.
- Okay, so, February 5th,
- Yeah.
- "I want you bad, girl."
- Right.
- Wow.
"Who this?"
"First of all,
we're gonna set some rules."
- Yeah, see?
- Whoo!
- "I'll let you know
who I am when I'm ready,
"if I'm ready, because
I don't want to mess
up what I'm trying to do."
- He's about his business.
- And then you said,
"I don't know.
You might kill me
or something."
- [laughs]
- He liked it.
- He said thumbs up.
- "The only thing I'm going
to kill is that [bleep]."
- Wow.
- [laughs]
- And then he wrote,
"Consensually,"
which is incredible.
[laughter]
- No, seriously.
- Wow.
- I mean, are you into this?
- I mean, yeah.
- Okay.
- He's clearly
trying to take control.
He wants things
in his own hands.
- And I don't like that
'cause that's not usually
my position in anything.
Usually, I'm the dominant one
in most of, like,
all of my relationships.
I feel like that's what made me
spiral into this situation
'cause I'm not
in control of it,
so I spent a lot of time
trying to get in control of it.
- Do any of your friends know
about the freak side of you?
- Oh, yeah, my friends know.
- Because it would take
a lot of balls
for someone who doesn't know
that you're into
this sort of thing
to come at you that hot.
- Yeah.
- Let's do some research.
Let's see
what we can find out.
- Let's do it.
- Fifty shades of gr-Avion.
[laughter]
- There it goes.
- Here we go.
- You're in good hands.
- That was crazy.
- Very aggressive.
- Yeah.
- Man, he was talking spicy.
She should've definitely
took more steps
before sending pictures,
showing herself,
just to protect herself.
- Right.
I mean, she did.
She let her curiosity
get the better of her,
and now she's in a situation
where she's compromised,
and she's afraid of this person
and what they could do.
And I'm concerned for her.
- Let's see what's going on.
Oh, wow.
- What's up?
- What up?
- There he is.
- He doing it.
- Come on through.
Welcome to the newsroom.
- Good morning.
- Let's crack this case.
All right, so Cherie and Avion.
Five months ago,
Cherie gets a random text
from an unknown number.
He says, "Hey, girl, we're here
to play this game with me.
"I'm not gonna
tell you who I am,
"but you're gonna do things
that I want you to,
"and maybe I'll slowly
reveal who I am."
- Mm-hmm.
- And it worked.
She kind of liked not knowing.
- And it has to be someone
that's close to her because
he knows her
mother's first name.
- Right, he either knows her,
has met her,
or is simply, like,
observing her.
- Yeah.
- Anyway, all right.
So let's see what we can find.
"Hey, guys, I wish I had more,
but this is all
"the information
I have on Avion.
"His full name
is Avion Whitaker.
He's 29,
and he's from Odenton."
And here's his number.
All right, so let's just do
an image search.
All right, here we go.
Nope. No match.
Okay, let's try
this next picture.
- Let's see,
let's see, let's see.
- No.
All right,
so let's search the number.
So this one's
a Maryland number.
Odenton, right?
And no name.
And it comes up as a landline,
which probably means
that it's a text app.
Huh.
- And a text-free app,
it could be any random
area code, right?
- Yeah, no, you can pick
that from anywhere.
I mean,
I'm assuming it's not him
in the picture
and his name's not Avion.
The only thing that seems
to be true
is that he might live
in Odenton
because he knew she worked
at a cell phone company.
So let's look for Odenton.
Is it possible
to post something
on an Odenton bulletin board
and say,
"Can anyone tell me
who this is?"
What's this one?
It's an Odenton
community group.
Here we go.
"This is a group
"for the Odenton,
Maryland community.
Feel free to post
whatever you would like."
I'm gonna post his photo.
"My name is Nev
"and I make a show
called 'Catfish.'
"Looking for Avion Whitaker.
Anybody know this man?"
All right, let's do it.
Post.
So what else
can we even look at?
[phone chimes]
- Who's that?
- I can't really talk
right now.
We're filming.
- [crying]
- What's up, guys?
[baby babbling]
- [growls]
- [growls]
You guys are having fun.
- No, we haven't found him yet.
We joined a community
Facebook group page
to ask people where he says
he lives if they know him.
Never done that.
- What?
- Someone messaged you.
- I gotta go.
- Bye.
All right, so wait a second.
Oh, here we go.
"I saw your post on Facebook.
Do you have a number
I can call?"
From Monica Whitaker.
Same last name.
- Wow.
- Okay.
"Hey, Monica,
please give me a call."
Okay.
Delivered.
[phone rings]
Hello?
- Yes, is this Monica?
- Speaking to Nev.
I'm glad you reached out.
We've been trying to figure
out whatever we can
about this guy Avion.
And you share
a last name with him.
- So you're married
to a guy named Avion.
- What was that woman's name?
Do you remember?
- I see.
So that's not your husband
in the photos.
- Got it.
Well, this must be
upsetting for you.
I'm sorry that you're
having to deal with this.
- Yeah.
- That would be great.
We'd love to talk to you.
- Okay.
No, we'll come talk to you.
Just us.
- Sure.
You can just text me
on this number
when you're ready,
and we'll be over there.
- Okay, thank you, Monica.
See you soon.
- Wow.
- [exhales]
That's crazy.
- Whoa.
So it's pretty messed up
that this married dude
started this fake account.
I don't know
that we've ever had
a married catfish.
Catfish don't tend
to be married--
- And the wife got him.
Caught him red-handed.
- That's a "Catfish" first.
This now, like,
a much trickier situation.
- Yeah.
- Because she's clearly upset.
[phone chimes]
Oh, she texted me.
"Hey, it's Monica.
"I can meet you at Towsers
Branch Park in an hour."
Okay, I think we just gotta
go talk to this lady.
- Let's do it.
- If there's any information
for us, Monica's gonna have it.
- Yeah, she's gonna have
all of it, too.
- I don't think we've ever had
a married person
cheating on their spouse
as a Catfish.
- [exhales]
That's some
home-wrecking [bleep].
We might've put
Mr. Whitaker on blast.
- Well, she saw that quick.
I mean, we posted that
on the thing,
and I guess right away,
she's recognized the photo
'cause she saw that
that was what he was using.
- Mrs. Whitaker,
we are coming for you.
- Here on Evergreen Woods.
Cars over here.
An interesting
location to choose.
- What if it's one of them?
You think we got 'em
on the court?
- Oh, here's a car.
That may...
It looked like a guy driving.
Could be wrong.
Oh, oh, what a second.
No, that is a guy.
- Could just be parking.
- That ain't the guy?
- Yeah, I think he had nothing
to do with it.
Oh, he's coming--
he's part
of the basketball squad.
All right.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Catfish, where are you?
We're really waiting.
[phone chimes]
- Oh, wait a second.
I got a text.
Ugh.
"I thought about it.
"I'm sorry
for wasting your time,
"but I can't blow up
my marriage on national TV.
I have kids to think about."
If she doesn't want
to come on the show,
then she definitely doesn't
want him coming on the show.
- I say ask for more time.
Maybe a phone call,
conversation,
we can find out who the guy is.
- All right,
so let's see if she can speak.
- So she knows
who has her nudes.
- Let's go tell Cherie
what we found out.
Hopefully, Monica
will get back to us.
[phone chimes]
Oh, there it is.
What'd she say?
"No.
"Please, leave my family alone.
"She knows he's a married man,
and she's getting
what she deserves."
- See, it's deeper.
- I don't want to think
Cherie is lying to us,
but why would she talk
to this guy
if he's weird and mysterious,
somehow ends up revealing
that he's married.
Like, what is she doing?
- Does she know who he is?
- We gotta go talk to her
because this is crazy.
Maybe we're not getting
the whole story.
- Mm-hmm.
- Man.
You never know
who you can trust.
- But is she even
a credible source?
'Cause we don't even
know who that is.
- Right, well,
that also could be the catfish.
- Yeah.
- Right?
She could be making this up.
This could be a decoy
for her to avoid coming clean.
Now I don't know
who to believe.
I don't know.
I think the two most likely
scenarios right now
are that Monica's
telling us the truth.
- Mm-hmm.
- And her husband has been
cheating with Cherie.
- And Cherie knows.
- Or Monica is Avion,
and made up this whole
husband nonsense.
Maybe it's always been Monica
and she just made up the Avion.
- Mm-hmm.
- Well, I didn't think
to question her
when she first called.
She sounded like
a woman in despair.
Something's
gonna reveal itself.
When we get there
and we talk to Cherie,
like, there's more.
- Yeah.
- Let's call Cherie.
[phone ringing]
- Yes, hello?
- Hey, it's Nev and Justin.
We wanted to come meet up.
We're a little unclear
about some details,
and we're hoping you could
clear some things up.
- Okay, no problem.
- Okay, great.
We'll be over there
in a little bit.
- All right.
- Okay.
Moment of truth.
Has Cherie been hiding
something from us?
- The last-minute cancellation
with Monica...
She didn't come,
so how credible is she?
- Right.
Who do we believe?
Let's get
to the bottom of this.
- Hello, honeys,
how you doing today?
Welcome.
- Hi, hi. Good.
- Let me take you guys outside.
Sit down.
- All right.
We got a lot to talk about.
[exhales]
Well, we're still trying
to figure this out.
- Okay.
Get on the ball.
- But we've got some stuff
to talk about.
So let's show you
what we looked at.
We went and checked
the phone number.
It told us that
it's probably just a text app.
But that is a phone number
for Odenton.
So that sort of could
mean something,
or it could mean nothing.
So then,
we thought
Odenton's a small community.
- Yeah, it's a small area.
- But we just thought,
let's post something
on the Facebook community page.
- All right.
- Someone's bound to...
- Say, "Yeah."
- Have something to say, right?
So we put up this post.
And then someone
will send me a message.
And the message
was from Monica Whitaker.
And it said...
Now, obviously,
I don't have to tell you
when I saw this person's
name that, like,
I assumed that there
was a connection.
- Right.
- So I gave her my number,
and she called us.
We had a very
brief conversation.
- Okay.
- She's married to Avion--
- Oh, snap.
- Whitaker.
- She said,
"My husband has been
pretending to be Avion."
So that's not his real name.
- Yeah.
- "And that I caught him
talking to you."
She knew you.
Like, she knew who you were.
- Yeah, she definitely
knew you.
- [gasps]
- "And I saw that he was using
"the pictures of this other guy
"and told him he's gotta stop.
"And I thought he had stopped,
"but then I just saw
that you guys are out here
still looking for Avion,
so I figured he hasn't."
- Right.
- And so I said,
okay, well,
what can you tell us about him?
And she said,
will you meet me?
I'd rather talk
about this in person.
- Okay.
- So then, we drive
all the way out to this park...
- Yes.
- And finally, she texts me,
"I thought about it.
"I'm sorry
for wasting your time,
"but I can't blow up
my marriage on national TV.
"Please, leave my
family alone."
- Ooh.
- "She knows
he's a married man,
and she's getting
what she deserves."
- [gasps]
I didn't do nothing.
- Did you know he was married?
- No.
- Why would she say that?
- I have no idea.
Honestly, if I found out that
my husband was messaging
a woman and I found out
who she was,
I would've reached out to her.
- Now look, all I know
is that a woman called us.
We spoke to a woman.
- Yeah, for sure.
- So check this out.
There's a chance...
that Avion is Monica.
- Ouch.
- And in an effort
to try and get us
to leave this whole thing alone
and stop pursuing them,
figured,
"Oh, I'll reach out to them,
"tell them I'm his wife,
and to leave it all alone..."
- Right.
- "And hope that they go away."
- And she tried to bring,
like, the family into it.
- Right, make them feel bad.
Right, exactly.
- Sympathize for her.
- Right.
- Well, I don't.
- She's being manipulative.
- She did call you
a home-wrecker
on the phone.
- Ooh.
That is--ooh.
- Forgot about that.
- How dare she?
- Yeah.
- We searched the number--
- The only thing we haven't
done is because we didn't
think of it was search
Monica's phone number
that she called us on.
So let's just do that.
- It says was recently
a landline.
- Yeah,
so it's definitely fake.
- That it's fake.
- Yeah
So if Monica's phone number
is a text app,
and she's trying to tell us
that she's married to this guy
and to leave it all alone
and go away,
Monica's probably Avion.
- Yeah, most likely.
- So I don't know what else--
we don't have anything
else we can search.
So we could just try
calling Avion.
- You could try that.
- Have you ever
tried calling him?
- No.
[phone ringing]
- We're sorry.
This person
is not available right now.
- Right.
- Of course you're not.
- Let's just try texting.
"Hey, Avion,
"this is Nev
"from 'Catfish' TV show.
"I am here with Cherie
and hoping to speak with you."
All right.
We'll have to wait
and see what happens.
[phone chimes]
Oh. Text.
"Hey, this is Avion.
"I know you're in town,
"and I'm ready to meet Cherie.
Can you meet me
in Odenton tomorrow?"
Uh, so wait a second.
So all of a sudden, now--
- You want to meet.
- He wants to meet.
"Yes, we can.
"But how do we know
you'll really show up?"
Oh, whoa.
What?
He just sent a screen shot
of someone else's conversation.
Question mark, question mark.
"I was supposed
to meet the Catfish show
"but I stood them up.
I told them to leave us alone.
It's over."
Whoa.
Okay, so wait,
he just sent us a screen shot
of his conversation
with presumably his wife.
And he wrote back,
"Huh? What do you mean?
What's going on?"
And then they wrote back,
"It's over."
And then he said,
"Okay, but I want
to come clean."
Then they said,
"Well, I don't."
And there's
another number here.
It says it's
a text plus number.
- I'm on it.
[bleep].
- Let's see, let's see.
- Wait, didn't we see
that one already?
That's the same one Monica had.
- Okay, so that's also
a fake number,
so that also might be
a fake message.
- Two fake numbers talking to--
- Well, is he texting himself?
Like, is Monica
texting herself?
- You can definitely do that.
- That's pretty sophisticated.
All right,
well, either way,
that's a somewhat
convincing screen shot
that, like, he and his wife
were talking about this.
If that even is his wife.
I mean,
this could just be two catfish
arguing about whether or not
to come clean.
- For sure.
- "Okay.
"Well, meeting up
and explaining
"all this will do everyone
a lot of good.
Just give us a time and place."
- Please.
- Oh.
"I'm not sure how much
good she deserves."
- Oh, wow.
- Dang, what did I do?
- What did you do?
- Yeah, why is she so mad?
- I don't know.
I swear to God I go to work
and I come home, y'all.
- [laughs]
- I swear.
- Why they hating
on you like that?
- I have no idea.
- Do it for yourself.
All right, well,
we made contact.
They want to meet.
I think we just have to hope
they follow through.
- I would actually like
to clear my name.
I'm not a home-wrecker
or anything like that.
- Yeah, also that.
And also just have a clear
conscience and know that
you don't have
to constantly be, like,
waiting and worrying that
someone's gonna mess with you
or post your photos.
- Exactly.
'Cause if I know who you are,
you'd be a lot more hesitant
about what you post about me.
- All right, so look, as soon
as we hear something back,
I'll let you know.
- Okay.
- All right.
- I enjoyed you guy's time.
- Hang in there.
- I'll try.
- Appreciate you.
- All right.
- See you later.
- Bye, you guys.
- Whoop.
Who is he?
Who is Avion?
Is Monica and Avion
the same person?
- Anything.
'Cause that's very hard to make
any sense out of this...
from any angle.
- Yeah.
- It's like a house of mirrors.
- All right, well,
today is the big day.
- Yes, sir.
- No check-in yet from Avion.
- Is Avion and Monica
the same person?
I feel it's the same person.
- In which case,
it's probably--
well, Monica may not
be her real name, but--
- It's a girl, I think.
- Probably a woman.
- Yeah.
- Who is posing as a man.
All right, well,
I'm gonna text Avion.
Good morning.
- Avion.
- "When and where
are we meeting?"
[phone chimes]
Oh. Whoa.
That was fast.
- He said,
"You can meet me at [bleep].
I'm here.
Come whenever."
- Let's go.
- Okay, great.
"We will be there."
Okay, cool.
Let's call Cherie.
- Hello?
- Good morning.
- Good morning, Nev.
How are you?
- I just texted Avion,
and he texted right back,
gave me an address,
and said he's there
and we can come meet him.
- I'm ready whenever
you guys are.
- All right,
so we're gonna come scoop you
and then we'll all
just drive over there.
- Okay, perfect.
- All right,
we'll see you soon.
Put your chims on.
- [laughs]
- Let's do it.
- Yes, sir.
[upbeat music]
- There she is.
Wow, she is RTG.
- You was ready.
- You're not messing around.
- Never.
- You all right?
- Yeah.
I'm here for business.
- What do you expect?
Like, what are you thinking?
- I'm really having, like,
a WTF moment in my head.
Like, I feel like
that's how it's gonna be.
First of all, you have a wife.
Yeah, so, nah.
And you have kids.
- Well, we don't know
if that's--
I mean, he's never
told that to you.
Now, obviously,
why would he?
But--
- But then it's like--
you lied about a whole family
and kids and a wife and--
- He got his wife
coming after you.
She mad.
- Yeah, and now I'm
a home-wrecker and stuff.
- What are you actually
trying to get out of this?
- Um...
well, one, I'm gonna give him
a piece of my mind.
- Okay.
- I need all of the photos
pretty much deleted.
And I also want to know
the reason behind all this.
I'm just hoping
that it goes--
I feel like there's malicious
reason behind this,
so I can't get that part
out of my mind, to be honest,
so it makes me very concerned.
- Well, it's just
around the next turn
and we're basically there.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Damn.
My heartbeat right now.
I'm at 112.
Ooh, I think my hands
are shaking.
Oh, it's real.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Do we get out now?
- All right, let's do this.
♪ ♪
- Okay.
Here goes nothing.
♪ ♪
All right.
♪ ♪
- Oh, man.
- Oh.
- Nev, Nev!
- Uh-oh.
- Oh, get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Okay.
Here goes nothing.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- My heart rate is up.
♪ ♪
- Oh, man.
- Oh.
- Nev, Nev!
- Uh-oh.
- Oh, get the [bleep]
out of here.
Nah.
Nah, that,
nah--absolutely dead.
Like, I gotta be Boo-Boo
the fool, like--no.
- You really fell for this?
- No.
- Who is this?
- An old friend of mine
who doesn't know his place.
- You forgot me?
- We ready to go?
- What's going on?
Who is this guy?
- Somebody I was, literally,
just old friends with.
- What happened?
- Yeah.
- She asked to borrow
some money from me,
and I haven't heard
from her since.
- That is so childish.
- All right,
so hold on a second.
What's your name?
- My name's Buddy.
- And you guys
go back as friends?
- Only a little bit.
About three or four years,
but we're honestly
not that close.
- About five years.
Since 2012.
- Okay.
So you guys were friends.
- Uh-huh.
We used to hang out.
- And close enough
that you lent her
some money here and there.
About how much
do you think you lent her?
- A couple hundred dollars.
- First of all,
I didn't ask you for anything.
This man blew up my phone
one day and I didn't answer,
so he went into my account
and paid my bill
and then told me I need
to pay him back
because he thought
that my phone was off.
Now I'm borrowing money
from you?
- You definitely asked.
You needed help.
- But you didn't
specifically say,
"Can I borrow money?"
He just--
- I didn't ask him
to pay my bill.
- It said it was off.
- So wait,
so what did you want?
- I wanted my money back.
That's all this was for.
That's what started Avion.
♪ ♪
- There were several days
where she said,
I'll bring you
your money this day.
Oh, my check's funny.
I'll bring you money this day.
- I blocked his number.
- My commission check's short.
I'll bring you
your money this day.
And it's been months.
And I haven't heard
a word from you.
- Because I'm not friends
with you anymore.
Do you really think the money
had something to do with it?
You're a [bleep] friend.
- When you said,
on your word--
- I don't care.
I don't care.
My word is is that
I don't [bleep] with you.
- And you spent the money.
You spent the Lyft money
to go see this fake person.
But you couldn't put the money
in your friend's hands.
- You know what I owe you?
A good-bye and have a nice
mother[bleep] day.
- Wait, hold on.
Were y'all just friends?
Strictly friends?
- Yes, nothing more than that.
I wouldn't let this man
touch me with a 10-foot pole.
- Yeah, you don't like her.
- No. That's my friend.
That's my homie.
- You never had
interest in her.
- No.
- Okay.
Well, that's confusing.
Your initial interaction
with her as Avion
was very sexual.
- It was because,
in the beginning,
I was just saying
the worst things I could say,
and then she started
sending these nudes.
Like, I didn't think she would
carry on as far as she did.
- But she says
you were asking for that.
- I wasn't.
You offered them up.
And so I said, sure.
I'll take those.
And I'm telling you,
these was the nastiest things
I have ever got in my life.
- Go ahead.
Continue lying.
- Like, that's fine.
- I'm waiting.
- I saw your insides.
- Oh.
- At the end of the day,
we're not friends,
so all of this
converse right here
really doesn't matter,
so I'm gonna go ahead
and let you go.
Go ahead and continue.
- And that's why Monica
came up with Avion for you.
- Who came up with--
- Monica.
- There is no--
- She's a friend of mine.
I have had a partner
from the beginning.
- Who is she?
- Wait, hold on.
- First of all,
he has no wife named Monica,
he knows nobody named Monica,
he just told you guys
I've known him for years.
- I mean, you can knock
on the door and see--
and talk to her.
- All right,
so hold on a second.
We know her name's not Monica.
Who's helping you?
- I feel like it's Desire.
- Wait, wait,
who's Desire?
- Some female friend
that he has.
Y'all think that I know--
that like, I know
this whole situation--
that's why I'm saying--
- Well, we don't know [bleep]
so can I--
- You can talk,
if she'll answer.
- Let me see
if she'll come out.
♪ ♪
Hello?
Hi.
- Who the [bleep] is Desire?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Hello, how you doing?
- Fine.
- Desire, right?
- Yeah.
- We're just trying to get
the whole story here.
I don't know to what extent,
but you're involved,
so it would be helpful
if you wanted to talk to us.
- But I--
- Okay.
- If, yeah, if that's
something you're okay with.
All right.
So I'm just trying
to get the story.
Hi.
- Hi.
Nice to meet you.
- This is pure comedy.
- How do you guys
know each other?
- I actually physically
take care of him legally.
Like, I'm his caretaker.
His aide.
- And you knew Cherie,
then, as well.
- Only through him.
- Okay, just through him.
- Um, she was my neighbor
around the same
time Cherie was.
- Right.
- Mm-hmm.
- She lived
in the building above me.
- Third floor.
- And that was
a few months ago?
- Yeah.
- Look, this is a lot.
Let's go inside.
- Go ahead.
- I can do that and we can
do that and we can talk
about the rest
of the situation.
- Okay.
- Can come on and have a seat.
- Okay, thank you.
Okay.
All right, so let's find
some common ground here.
Your motive for this was that
you felt you were owed money.
- Right, so like--
she's a bad person, basically,
so let's just say all
the worst [bleep] we can say,
and see how she responds.
I would ask Desire,
hey, what should I say?
And, Desire, being a female,
would be like,
well, say this and say that,
and then she'll block you--
'cause I wouldn't want anybody
to talk to me that way.
- But it just--
if someone does something
that you don't like,
it doesn't give you permission
to do something else...
wrong.
- I feel like it does.
'Cause you, like,
you don't have any integrity.
Like, you think that
it's just okay to just
take from people and keep it
moving like you don't know me.
I didn't expect it
to just keep escalating.
- And initially,
we thought it was funny.
And we were
just kind of like,
let's see how far we can go
with this kind of thing.
- Because, as a black woman,
that's the right thing to do.
But we can continue.
- It was funny.
- I really don't even know
why we have her in the room,
and I would actually
much more prefer
if she wasn't here at all.
- She is Avion--
that's what I'm saying.
- I'm the one that actually
came up with the name.
- Good job, good job.
- Well, whatever.
- [laughs]
- You can turn your head
all you want.
I would love nothing
but to knock one of
these cameras into your head.
I hope I don't see you
anywhere in the streets.
- Oh, that's really great.
So now you're threatening me.
- Yes.
- I'm glad I have
lots of witnesses.
- Me, too, and I definitely
feel threatened, too,
'cause you have
naked pictures of me, so--
- We deleted them.
- We didn't keep them.
We deleted them.
- Nobody kept your nudes.
- Can we make sure
that those are deleted?
- You can check 'em.
You can check mine.
- Just for her safety,
make sure she's good.
♪ ♪
- Delete anything
you see of you
if it makes you feel better.
- Are those you?
- Oh, yeah.
I know my booty when I see it.
- If you see you, take you out.
- Wait, so you did have them.
- Yeah, you don't have any.
- Yeah, nudes that she said
she didn't send me.
- But why did you just lie and
say that you didn't have them
and you had them
in the hidden folder?
- But you do!
- Look, clearly
there's hurt feelings here,
'cause you keep wanting to try
to make her feel bad and she--
- I don't want people trying
to take advantage of me.
- Right, but, okay--right--
- I don't like it.
- But catfishing somebody
and taking their nudes
isn't the same
as borrowing some money
and ghosting somebody.
I mean, what you did
was kind of [bleep] up.
- You have no idea.
You took from me.
- Okay, and this is what
you did to me.
- Yeah, I know.
- Okay.
- This conversation,
unfortunately, is not evolving
into anything positive.
We've cleared up
the pictures issue,
which, I know, was
something important for you.
- Oh, that was the main cause.
- Right?
You know who
you've been talking to.
There's no more pieces of
the story that we don't know.
- No.
- All right, so...
Can we just agree that,
if the pictures are deleted,
like, sure,
she [bleep] you over,
but you [bleep] her over.
Can we just call it over?
- Sure.
- And that's that?
- Sure, we can do that.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- I'm ready to go.
- Let's roll.
We'll head out.
- Thank you, thank you.
- Good luck with everything.
- Yes.
- Nice meeting you as well.
Good luck with everything.
[dream pop playing]
I feel even if you did
owe him money
and you guys were friends--
- I still don't feel like
it should've went that far.
- Yeah, exactly.
- Forget all that.
What did we learn?
Be careful who you send
your pictures to.
- Yeah, no, at this point,
nah, he's ruined the fun
for everybody.
- Yeah.
- So that's the end of it
for you?
You're ready to leave it be?
- Yeah, pretty much.
♪ ♪
- What's up?
- What up?
- Hey.
- How you doing?
- I'm fine.
- Have you spoken to
Buddy and Desire?
- Of course not.
- [laughs]
- Are you sad at all about how
everything kind of panned out?
- It does suck, 'cause after
having a friend
for like three or four years
and stuff like that,
but it's really been like
a weight lifted off
of my shoulders.
And I had decided to stop
being friends with him
originally,
so after what happened,
it really just confirmed,
yeah, dawg, it's time to go.
- And you got
your nudes deleted.
- That's right, that's right.
- That's the main thing.
- All right, Cherie.
- All right.
You guys have a good one.
- Later.
- Take care.
- Bye.
- Hey, what's up, guys?
How's everything been going?
- Good.
- Pretty good actually.
- No more Avion.
You know, he's--he's gone now.
It was like, whoo!
Okay, we're done now.
We can kind of
get it off our chest.
We feel good about it.
- But do you think now,
having sort of seen
how it all panned out,
that, like, it was worth it
for you guys?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Because,
at the end of the day,
if I could've done more,
I would've.
She knows what she did
and she knows not to do that
so we hope that she won't...
- Or others.
Right.
- I don't know.
I mean, just stop with, like,
the weird, manipulative,
passive-aggressive [bleep].
Just, like, move on
with your life.
All three of you are better off
with that whole situation
behind you.
- Right.
- Sure.
- I think it's best if you guys
all just sort of move on.
- Life lessons.
- Life lessons, right.
- All right, guys.
- All righty.
- All right, God bless.
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