Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 37 - CJ & Shana - full transcript
Justin Combs joins Nev to help CJ find Shana, a woman that CJ's been having a steamy relationship with for eight years and has never met.
- Eight years ago, I saw
this hot girl on Facebook.
- Eight years.
- Wow.
- She was like,
"Hey, Shana passed away."
- Something's off.
- I saw her. I saw her.
It's a picture of us.
See? I'm looking at her.
This is our first
"Catfish" stalker.
- We are pulling up.
[intense music]
- Hey, guys, Nev here,
and we're back
with a brand-new batch
of all new "Catfish" episodes.
Let's do it.
We've been making this show
for over seven years,
and we've done
over 125 episodes.
- You're a coward, man.
- And what's amazing
is we're still encountering
things we've never seen before.
He was dead for a couple days.
What?
- Everybody in Hawaii
is in on this.
- ♪ What we see is just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
- New ways to fall in love.
We've never had
two hopefuls hook up.
All new deceptions.
- You just lied about
so much [bleep].
- And new
what-the-[bleep] firsts
that are gonna
completely flip the script
on what you think
you know about "Catfish."
- He has a twin.
- An identical twin?
So join me and all
our favorite co-hosts.
- Are we gonna get jumped?
- Oh, my God.
- As we dive headfirst into
an all-new season of episodes.
Each with a unique
"Catfish" first.
- ♪ What we see is just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Drop, drop,
drop that beat ♪
♪ ♪
You're probably wondering,
"Who's the co-host
gonna be this episode?"
Who's gonna be the co-host?
Ladies and gentlemen,
Justin Combs is in the house.
What's up, man?
- What up, how are you?
- Justin Combs
is a triple threat.
He's a star athlete who played
for the UCLA Bruins,
a current Harvard MBA student,
and if that wasn't enough,
he's also a VP at the family
business Combs Enterprises.
Today, we are so excited
to have Justin Combs.
- Nice to meet you.
- It's nice to meet you.
- I've been a big fan
of the show.
I've been watching it
for a minute,
so it's an honor to be here.
I'm excited.
- Same.
- When I just see a fake
account wasting someone's time,
I definitely want to help,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm big on finding the truth.
I definitely want
to help somebody out.
- You came to the right place.
All right.
Well, should we tuck in
and see what we got here?
All right.
We got an email here from CJ.
"Hey, Nev and Justin, I'm 25,
work as a cook,
"and live up in Syracuse,
New York, with my family.
Eight years ago, I saw this
hot girl on Facebook."
- ♪ I know I was a fool
when I first met you girl ♪
- "Her name is Shana.
She was 21, and
she lived in New Jersey."
So wait, so eight years ago
he was, like, 17?
- So he had
a nice, older woman.
- Yeah. "We had a bunch of
mutual friends,
"so I sent her a message.
She responded,
and we hit it off."
- ♪ I knew in my heart
that I'd been saved ♪
- "Shana was a nurse
and had a baby daughter, Nunu."
- Okay, Nunu.
- "We exchanged numbers
"and started talking
all the time.
"Shana was perfect,
and when she asked
if she could be my boo,
I immediately said yes."
- ♪ I love you ♪
- "There are a lot of crazy
things about our story,
but the craziest thing
is that I really love her."
♪ ♪
"But every time
"I try to make plans
to meet face-to-face,
it never happened because
of something on her end."
- That's fishy.
- "Two years ago,
"she actually moved
from New Jersey to Syracuse.
"We were in the same town,
but she still
couldn't meet me."
That's ridiculous.
- Yeah.
- "I need to find out
what's going on.
"If she's not who
she says she is,
"then who have
I been talking to,
"and why would they do this
to me for so long?
I hope you can help me, CJ."
- This is spicy.
- Yeah.
Eight years is a long time.
- Yeah, he's been talking her
for a minute,
so we gotta try to figure
something out for him.
- All right.
Let's give him a call.
[computer chimes]
Yo!
- What up?
- How you doing?
- Good, good. How you doing?
- Good.
Nev here, and I have...
- Justin.
- Justin helping me out
on this episode.
- Nice to meet you guys.
- Cool, so tell us
this whole story,
going all the way back
to when you first met Shana.
- Well, it started off
on Facebook.
I saw her in my
"people you may know,"
and instantly, I just
started hitting her up,
and she replied back.
She told me she was 21,
and I was 17,
so I felt like the big guy
around campus
and stuff, you know.
- Yeah. A nice older thing.
I like that.
- Mm-hmm, so we got
into a relationship,
and I was supposed
to meet her in New Jersey,
but she disappeared on me.
- Did she ever explain
what happened or--
- The whole time
that we've been talking
it's been excuses
about everything.
Like, "I got called
in to work,"
or, "I got bad service."
Why we can't video chat.
- You kept talking
obviously, after...
- Mm-hmm.
Like, she always knew
what to say to get me back.
- Yeah.
- So me and her
is just talking.
Then a year after,
she disappeared,
and then I got a weird
message in my email,
and it was her friend,
Destiny Lopez.
She said,
"Hey, Shana is my friend,
and she passed away."
- Had you ever heard
of Destiny before,
or she just was
a random friend of Shana?
- Just a random person.
- Wow.
- So I was feeling
heartbroken.
I was hurt,
and I cared about her,
and I loved her,
so I'm like I just lost a girl
that I never even met yet,
anyways, too.
It was, like, hard
for me to move on.
I was talking to other girls
and stuff like that,
and then I started
dating other girls,
but it was just hard.
- When Shana died...
- Yes.
- Did her Facebook page
go away, or did it just--
- Disappeared completely.
- It disappeared.
- And then two years later,
I'm scrolling on Facebook,
and it says
"people you may know."
Shana Vasquez, so--
- Wait, wait, wait. Sorry.
You find out from
Shana's friend that she died,
and you don't talk to her
for two years.
- Two years.
- And then, all of a sudden,
she pops up in--
- I'm scrolling on Facebook,
and I start
instantly hitting her
with messages.
I'm like, "Are you kidding me?
It's been two years.
"I thought that
you were done like that.
Like, where the [bleep] you
been? What's going on?"
You know what I mean? Like--
- Yeah.
- Wow. Back from the dead.
- Wow.
- Mm-hmm,
and then she told me,
"I apologize.
I've been going through stuff.
"I just got out
of a bad relationship.
It was
a violent relationship,
and I didn't know
how to handle it," and stuff.
Like, she always knew
how to get me back.
When she popped back up,
I was in a relationship.
- And what happened
to that relationship?
- Oh, we broke up.
- Think it had something to do
with Shana being back?
- Mm-hmm.
She caught me texting her
and stuff like that,
you know, so it was like--
- Oh, man!
Texting a dead girl?
- Yeah.
- You broke up with a real,
living person
for a Facebook zombie?
- [chuckles] Mm-hmm.
- You must really love Shana.
- I do. I love her.
- Eight years is a long time
to be waiting, man.
- We gonna figure
this out though.
- I'm ready.
- We got you.
- All right. Thank you, guys.
- All right, later.
- Wow. Eight years? Come on.
- That was crazy.
- What is this guy
hanging on to this for?
- Man.
- She had a "friend"
tell him she died.
To then come back
and allow the relationship
to pick up
where you left off...
- Yeah.
- Is, like, evil.
- Definitely. Yeah.
- Like, let this poor boy go.
- Eight years.
- Either she just
has incredibly strong feelings
for him that she can't let go,
or she loves messing
with this guy.
- Yeah. I don't know.
Shana's cold-blooded.
- Well, I'm down.
Let's hit the road.
- Let's do it.
Let's do it.
- All right.
- Let's go.
- ♪ Look out the window ♪
♪ Beyond the trees ♪
♪ They're making plans ♪
♪ Lying on the beach ♪
♪ You've got people
behind the scenes ♪
- Man, I'm excited.
I want to figure this out
for him and help him out.
- Whoever Shana is
she's clearly hiding something.
- For sure.
Something's off.
- Shady Shana.
- Shady Shana.
- All right, let's do it.
"No playing on porch.
"No sitting in my chairs.
Ring doorbell once.
Knock as much as you please."
Start with that.
[doorbell chimes]
What's up?
Good to see you, man.
Let's head on in.
What's that say?
"No playing in my house.
No eating food
on my furniture."
- "At all."
- At all.
"Woman boss of this house."
Your mom's got a lot of rules.
- Yeah.
- She's pretty tough?
- Yeah. On me.
- All right.
Well, let's sit down.
All right, so Justin and I
have been trying to think why,
after eight years, you've still
never met this woman.
- It might be the baby dad's
still probably--
- So you think, because
of her relationship,
that's why she hasn't met you?
- I mean that's the only thing
I can think of,
'cause when she died and stuff
like that she told me
that she's going through
a bad relationship.
- Right, so even when you guys
started talking,
she still, obviously, had
a connection to her baby daddy.
- Yes. That's what I think
is going on still.
- Who knows?
- Yeah. That's--
- What about the person
who actually
told you that she died?
Who was that?
- So...
- Oh, yeah.
- Destiny Lopez.
- Destiny. Okay.
- She randomly came
out of the blue.
Like, "Hey, I know you
and Shana used to talk.
Shana passed away."
I'm like, "Who are you?
"Like, Shana never told me
nothing about you
"and stuff like that, like,
so are you sure?
Like, what happened?"
And I seen that she lived
in New Jersey, too,
about the same area
that Shana was living.
So I'm like, "Wow, she gotta
know what she talking about."
Then I instantly went to Shana
writing her like,
"What happened?"
Nothing. And then, one day,
the Facebook was gone.
- Shana's profile disappeared.
- Yes and Destiny's profile
disappeared too.
- That's weird.
- Yeah.
- And then, a year-and-a-half
later, Shana comes back,
and didn't you just think like,
"This is crazy?" Like--
- I wanted to drop it, but we
knew each other for so long.
It was something in me
that I was like,
"I gotta find out
who this was."
I told so much to her.
We used to talk nonstop.
Day and night. Fall asleep
on the phone sometimes.
- Wow.
- I even told her I loved her.
She done told me she loved me.
- So you guys have said
you're in love?
- Yes. I feel like
it's a connection there.
It's just that one part-
-who she is--'cause she done
came in and out of my life
a bunch of times already,
so I just gotta know.
- Yeah.
If we assume, for a moment,
that Shana is not the girl
in the photographs,
how much has she lied
about that?
Like, has she sent you lots
and lots of pictures?
Is she always posting?
Does she text you stuff?
- She send me pictures
all the time.
I got a couple pictures--
- Pictures that she was posting
or just separate, like,
"just for you" pictures?
- It's a couple "just for me"
pictures that she sent me.
Like, freaky pictures.
- Oh, really?
- You can see.
- Whoa. I didn't--
- I'm like,
"I can't turn that off,"
you know? From--
- Okay, so here she is.
Wait a second.
That is a lot of pictures.
Okay, the booty pic.
Wait. What is--this
picture of a vagina?
- Yeah.
- Weird.
Could have gave us a warning.
- For real.
- But she sent it to you? Yeah.
- And you've sent a bunch
of pictures of yourself?
- Yes.
- Naughty ones?
- Yeah.
- So you know that, if a person
was comfortable enough
to send you
those types of photos,
they're comfortable enough
to FaceTime or video chat.
- Sure.
- Either they're
catfishing you...
- Right.
- And they're not the person
in the pictures,
or they just don't like you,
and they don't really want
to meet you.
Now, I don't know why
she'd keep talking to you...
- Right.
If she didn't like me.
- Unless you were
giving her money,
or doing her favors,
but you're not.
- Not a dime.
- Not a dime.
- Can't do that. I just--
I got a lot of questions,
'cause I got love for her.
I done lost
a couple girlfriends
and stuff like that,
in the past,
and stuff,
over texting her and stuff.
- When you were dating
other girls did you tell Shana?
- She'll find out,
like, Facebook
or something like that.
- And does she get jealous or--
- Mm-hmm. Yes.
- She does?
So she doesn't let you have
your other relationships
peacefully?
- Mm-hmm.
- She, like, starts texting--
- Yeah. Texting me.
Texting the girl sometimes.
Whoa.
Really?
- What?
She got the girl's number?
- Not number.
Facebook and stuff, yeah.
- Wow, so she has, like,
actively sabotaged
your other relationships.
- A couple of 'em. Yeah.
- This girl sounds crazy.
- Yeah.
- Why are you messing
with this girl?
- I'm just in too deep
basically.
- Gotta find out
who it is though.
- Yeah. That's what I'm--
- That's what
I'm thinking about.
- We've got permission.
Send us what you've got,
and we'll check in with you
in the morning.
We'll let you know how it goes.
- Thank you, guys.
- All right.
- See you later.
[bleep].
- Well, we've definitely got
our hands full with this one.
- Mm-hmm.
- Eight years is a long time
to be talking to someone,
and for that person
to have been dead
for two years of that
is so messed up.
- And on top of that, sabotaged
his current relationships.
- Yeah, no, this girl has
crossed the line.
- Very dark.
- We could be dealing
with someone
with some serious problems.
- Yeah.
[exhales]
[dramatic musical sting]
- All right.
Let's crack this case.
- Let's do it.
- Smells like
investigation in here.
Love it. All right,
so we've got CJ. Good guy.
- Mm-hmm.
- He met this girl Shana.
She pops up in his
"people you may know."
She's fine.
- Little bit older.
- Couple years older.
They start talking,
and eight years later,
they're still talking.
- And two out of those
eight years she was dead.
- He thought she was dead,
because a friend of hers,
Destiny, told him
she was dead.
- That was crazy.
- Perhaps the most
messed up part--
- She sabotaged
his old relationships.
Not cool.
- The level of boldness
of Shana's lies are,
I think, the biggest
we've ever seen.
- Yeah. She's cold-blooded.
- All right. Let's get into it.
"Shana's name is Shana Vasquez.
She's 29.
"Her daughter's name is Nunu,
and she's eight.
"The friend on Facebook
that told me Shana died
"was Destiny Lopez,
"but her page
disappeared real fast.
"Attaching the pics
I showed you.
"Hope you figure out
what's going on.
I can't keep doing
this forever."
Ready to do
a little image search?
Here we go.
Let's start with this one.
- Let's see. Let's see.
Let's see.
- All right, so nothing there.
Let's try this one.
All right, so nothing
with the photos.
Let's go to her Facebook page.
- Okay.
- There are definitely
a bunch of photos.
Her. Her daughter.
It is more convincing
than catfish profiles
I've seen before.
- Usually it's not
a lot of photos.
- Right.
Look, she posted--
She was trying to raise
1,500 bucks, she said,
"My daughter was diagnosed
with cancer in her leg.
I am a single mom with no
family to help." Wow.
- Did she receive
any money on this?
- Doesn't look like it,
but if that's not her daughter,
and she's got a fundraiser page
set up for a fake daughter
with a fake cancer, like...
- Yeah.
- That's...
- That's sick.
- Seriously sick.
- Next level. I'm starting
to hope this is real,
just so I don't see
that there's cruel people
like this outside,
in the world.
- Let's just look at her
friends, and reach out,
and see if anyone's
ever laid eyes on this girl.
- Okay.
- Here we go.
Some comments here.
Who's Bubba?
He said, "What you doin'?"
And she wrote back,
"Why you ain't
message me back?"
So they clearly have
some correspondence.
- Sure.
- "Hey, Bubba."
Possible friend.
Naji says, "Look at my Nunu."
So that person obviously knows
who her daughter is.
Naji from Syracuse.
Let's send him a message.
All right,
so that could be good.
Whoa. Call real quick.
Hello? Who is this?
- Bubba. Okay.
Thanks for getting back to me.
We're working
on a case right now.
There's a guy
who lives in Syracuse
who has been talking
to this girl for a long time.
Her name is Shana.
- How do you know her?
- She requested you?
- Did she ever talk
about her daughter Nunu?
- Did she ever ask you
for money?
- All right, man.
Have a good rest of your day.
- Thank you.
- Bye.
- If she's talking to all these
guys to try and get money,
so far,
she's not doing so great.
She's got this fundraiser, but
it doesn't seem to have worked.
No one gave anything.
- I thought it's to get money.
- Yeah.
- But my head is spinning now.
- Let's do a phone
number search.
Nothing.
- I don't like it.
We gotta get
to the bottom of this.
- Oh. Here we go.
Utica, New York.
- Oh, [bleep].
- Hello?
- Oh, hey. What's up, man?
We saw you were friends
with a girl named Shana.
- Oh, like, date
in real life, in person?
- Wow, and when was that?
- And what happened?
Why didn't you guys
ever meet up?
- Did you ever have any,
like, proof that Shana
lived in Syracuse?
- And she messaged you like,
"Hey, I saw you at your work?"
- That's creepy.
- Very.
- Whoa. That's some, like,
shady stalker [bleep].
- And did she ever mention
her friend Destiny?
- What's Destiny's Facebook?
Can you respond and a link
to her page or something?
- Oh, great. Okay.
- Do you know anyone
that's ever met up
with her or seen her?
- So you're telling me there's
another guy in Syracuse
who's been talking to her
for that long?
- She's crazy.
- I'd love to talk to Pape,
if you can send me his info.
- All right.
Thanks so much. Bye.
Whoa. Wow.
This just took another turn.
Next level [bleep], man.
This girl is talking
to lots of guys.
- Two eight-year relationships?
- And she's, like, seeing
these guys
and texting them like,
"Oh, I just called
your name out at your work."
I mean we've never had a serial
"Catfish" stalker before.
I mean, that's a creepy first.
It's starting to just feel like
she likes to mess with people.
Oh, we've got a message.
Naji sent--whoa--
a lot of screenshots.
Here's Pape.
Let's just send him a message.
All right, so let's
hopefully talk to Pape.
Here Naji is texting
with Destiny
or messaging with her.
"You really going to take
care of Shay and Nunu?"
She's, like,
making sure these guys
that Shana's talking to are,
like, serious.
So let's just see if we can
find this profile for Destiny.
Oh, there she is.
Destiny Lopez.
Also very pretty.
This Destiny page feels a lot
like Shana's page.
- Shana could be using
this account to speak
to whoever she wants
when she doesn't want
to speak to them as Shana.
[phone rings]
- Oh, boy. Hello?
- Yay. What's up, Pape?
We're trying to figure out
what's going on
with this girl Shana.
- It's official?
- How do you know?
- Wow.
- Oh, no.
- Right.
- I think they might
actually be the same person.
- And we're gonna try
and figure this out, man.
- All right. Later.
- God bless. Thank you.
- Wow.
This girl--this is really
our first serial
"Catfish" stalker.
She was there.
The address was real,
but she was either
in a different house
or looking from the window.
- That's creepy.
- She saw him the car.
- Whoever this is has a lot
of time on their hands.
- Right, and if you're a guy
in Syracuse--
- She's trying to get at you.
- She'll--watch out.
- Beware of Shana.
- Nobody's safe.
- That's just crazy.
- Who knows how many other
guys are driving around
the state looking
for this girl.
But we know she's out there
looking for them.
- We gotta go talk to CJ now
and tell him
that everything we know
about Shana suggests
that she's lying about
some major part of her life.
- A lot of news to break him.
- I'll let you handle this one.
- Let's do it.
[doorbell chimes]
- Hello?
- Hello.
- What's good?
How you doing?
Come on in.
- What's up?
- What's up, man?
- I'm doing good.
- So we did some snooping.
- Whoo.
- So let's just get into it.
All right,
so the first thing we did
was we image searched
pictures.
Nothing.
- Nothing? Oh.
- So that's good, because
it means that she's not
just some Instagram model
with a bunch of followers.
Not getting any hits
on pictures
is usually a good thing.
- Oh.
- All right, so the next thing
we looked at
was her Facebook page.
This doesn't immediately
strike me as a fake account.
- Right.
- I mean, look.
There's plenty of photos.
- Got her daughter.
- She's got pictures
of her daughter.
She's got people commenting,
so we basically said, "Okay.
Let's go through as many
of her posts as we can."
We found this.
Eight months ago,
she created this page
to raise money
for her daughter's illness.
- Yes. I remember that.
- Not to say that there's
anything wrong with that,
but if this isn't true,
and she did this whole thing
and she shared it
on her Facebook page,
that's really messed up.
- Right.
- So then we thought,
"Let's find comments or
interactions that seem to be
between her and, like,
an actual friend."
So we reached out
to a bunch of people.
- So Bubba, he's from Syracuse.
- Met her, just like you,
online four years ago.
- Oh, wow.
- They flirted on and off.
They never video chatted
or met.
- Right.
- [sighs]
- We ended up then getting
a phone call from Naji.
- Mm-hmm.
- Naji's from Syracuse.
They spoke
for four to five months.
He spoke with Destiny.
- Right, so he--
- Oh, wow.
That's [bleep] crazy.
She must got me blocked
or something.
- Right.
Which is also kind of weird.
He sent us these
conversations with Shana.
- Naji got a lot.
- She sent a lot of heart eyes.
It's, like, very intimate
considering that you guys
were talking then, too, right?
- Yes.
- So it's kind of messed up,
because now we've talked
to two guys. Both of whom...
- Are saying the same thing.
- Have had similar experiences
where they thought they had
something going with Shana.
- Same thing going on with me.
- Right.
- I wasn't expecting all this.
This is crazy.
- Gets crazier though.
- Right.
- He knows of one other guy
that she spoke to.
His name was Pape.
- So then we talked to Pape.
- Yes.
- Also been talking to her
for eight years.
She gave him an address.
He drove there to meet her.
- Really?
- 40 miles.
- They, like, had a plan.
- You gotta be kidding me
right now.
- He got there.
- And then it's creepy.
She's texting him.
Describing his clothing.
- Right.
- Describing what car he's in.
- But never met him.
- That's--
- That's creepy.
Someone just watching you,
and you don't know
they're watching you.
- Look, man,
there's a lot of guys
this girl
has been doing this to.
I have a feeling there are
a lot of other guys.
- Really extra not cool.
[somber music]
- You all right?
- Yeah, I'm all right.
I wasn't expecting all that.
- ♪ We can never take
the harm that's been done ♪
- A lot of lies.
♪ ♪
- ♪ But you can
certainly think ♪
♪ About the one
that's about to become ♪
- What does Shana want?
Does she even like you at all?
- That's what
I want to know now.
- Are you just one
of the many people
she's messing with for fun?
- I thought it was
'cause she really liked me.
I thought I had this loyal
girl, and she--yeah.
- Right. Not everything
about her might be real,
but I thought at least
what you guys had...
- Was real.
- Was real.
- This is my breaking point,
honestly,
and it's like--I don't know.
I can't trust her now.
I just want to find out, like,
what is she getting out of it?
That's what I want to know.
- ♪ No you don't let
a single drop go to waste ♪
- The only thing we know
for sure is that
she's actively working
on [bleep] with people.
This needs to stop.
- At this point,
I'm less concerned
with whether Shana or Destiny
are the people in the pictures
and more concerned with
why are they messing with you
and seemingly
every other guy in Syracuse?
- One of the most messed up
parts about this
is that she was trying
to sabotage his relationship.
- Yeah, that's--
- Really extra not cool.
- What does Shana want?
- That's what I want
to know now.
- Let me call her
and just see what she says.
- Hope for the best.
- Right.
[line ringing]
- Your call
has been forwarded
to an automated voice
messaging system.
- I'll leave a message.
[beep]
- Hey, this is Nev from
the show "Catfish"
trying to get
in touch with Shana.
I'm actually in Syracuse
right now, and I'm with CJ.
I know you guys have been
talking a long time.
Always tried to meet up,
but you haven't been able to.
We're hoping to help
make that finally happen.
Hopefully,
we'll hear from you soon.
Thanks. Bye.
Ball is in her court now.
She clearly knows
that we're here.
We know that she's hiding
something. Let's play it cool.
Let's let her make
the decision, hopefully,
for herself,
that it's definitely time.
Hopefully, I'll have an update
for you in the morning.
We'll get out of your hair.
[phone chimes]
- Oh, [bleep].
Wow. She just wrote.
- Wait. Shana just texted you?
- Yeah.
- What?
- Shana just texting you
and said,
"I can't believe
you're doing this.
This is BS. I'm blocking you."
Wait. Don't text her back.
Clearly is a little spooked.
Maybe she's acting.
Maybe this whole reaction
is sort of just what she does.
Don't say anything yet.
Let's give her the night
to think about it.
- All righty, I got you.
See you guys later.
- All right, brother.
- All right.
- You got this though.
Stay positive.
- I'm trying.
- Gonna figure it out.
All right, bro.
See you later.
- All right, brother.
- Yes, sir.
Ooh.
- What is going on
with this girl?
She's definitely having
all the same conversations
with lots of different guys.
- That definitely hurts.
- Yeah.
- You don't feel
special anymore.
- If you're gonna get lied to,
you want to at least
be the only one...
- Yeah.
- Who's getting lied to.
- People that lie to me
just lie to me.
- Right.
- No one else.
- We gotta be careful,
'cause she might just ghost.
[line ringing]
- Hello? What's up?
- Yo, CJ.
- What's up, man?
We're a little anxious.
I have not heard anything back
from Shana. Have you?
- Nothing since yesterday
and she said like,
"I'm blocking you?"
- Wow.
- Can we just pull up?
Is that an option?
- Of course. I mean,
she gave Pape an address.
It might actually
be where she's at.
All right, well, we gotta
figure something out.
Where are you now?
- CJ, if she does not answer,
we are pulling up.
- Yes.
- Yeah.
- Pull up game.
[camera shutter clicks faintly]
- Let's get in there.
[doorbell chimes]
- Well, actually,
like three minutes
before you guys got here,
she actually hit me up.
- Really? She just said,
"Just met Nev.
Still can't believe
you did this."
- I saw her. I saw her.
It's a picture of us...
- I didn't even notice that.
- Walking out.
I saw that woman
sitting in the lobby.
- Really? When we walked
into the hotel I saw a woman
sitting in the lobby,
like this, and I even--
- She took a picture of us?
- And I even looked at her.
You can see I'm looking at her,
'cause I was like,
"That lady's kind of creepy
sitting there like"--
I could tell
she was taking pictures,
and I didn't say anything.
I noticed her.
- That's the same thing
she probably did
to the other dude, Pape.
You think she followed us here?
- Let me just see if I can
remember what she looked like.
Wait. Do we have--wait.
You filmed us walking out.
- Can you replay it?
- Wait. We have--
- She literally just sent
this stuff to me actually.
That's why it's crazy.
- Here's the footage
from the lobby.
Let's see if we can spot her.
All right. Here we go.
We started walking here,
and she'll be sitting right
on the other side of this wall.
- Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- That's [bleep] weird.
- But, oh, man, I don't know
if you can see her.
Wait, wait.
She'd be right here.
- She got us.
- Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh!
- Oh, you...
- Come on.
- Just missed it.
- Oh, man!
That's a "Catfish" first.
- That's never happened
before on here?
- No, nothing like this
has ever happened.
We've never had a catfish,
like, creep up on us like that.
- Wow.
- Yeah.
Well, she's definitely--
I can 100% confirm,
had I looked at her
and it was the girl
in the pictures,
I would have remembered that.
- Wow.
- She's playing with us.
I mean...
- Yeah.
- This girl likes
to really play games,
so you should respond.
- I said, "So you met Nev.
Now can I meet you?
I'm so eager to meet you.
Please."
- Right.
- She's calling.
- She's calling.
Put it on speaker.
- Hello?
- Hey, Shana.
- I can't believe
you were sitting there.
I looked right at you.
- You want to meet up
somewhere or something?
- Hey.
Hey, Shana, it's Nev.
I think everyone just wants to
know who you are, the real you,
and get a chance
to get to know you.
- We are not trying to make you
feel bad or anything like that.
We just want to find out
who you really are.
- All right. Perfect.
We'll see you then.
- All right. Great.
Thanks, Shana.
Bye. Okay.
- That's [bleep] crazy.
- Let's do it.
- You ready?
- Yep. Ready. Let's go.
- Let's go.
How do you feel
that you kind of know
it's not the person
you thought it was?
- I'm hurt about it
a little bit.
- What if she's,
like, still pretty though?
Look past everything.
- Yeah. I'ma try.
I'ma try, because
I'm not gonna just--
- You'll give it a chance.
- Yeah. I'ma give it a chance.
- Really? So you still think,
like, if there's an attraction,
and she can explain everything,
you're still down to,
like, go on a date?
- Go on a date.
- Or something.
- Be friends. Yeah.
- Wow.
- 'Cause it's like everybody
go through something,
and I'm not the one
to judge about it, you know?
[phone chimes]
- Oh.
Shana. "I see you.
Just go through--"
- Uh-oh.
- Wait. No.
"Just go through the gates,
and at the V,
go up to the left fork."
All right, so here's the V.
Here's the gate.
- Is that her
underneath the tree?
- No. That's someone
who works here.
- It can't be. I hope not.
- Shana is sneaky.
Where is she? Who is she?
She can be anyone.
- If she saw us, we should see
her pretty soon, right?
- Shana.
- Oh, is there someone up
on that bench?
- Yeah. It look like
somebody's up there.
- That's the only place she
could have seen us from, right?
- Yeah.
Yeah, and she looking too.
- Yeah, yeah.
That must be her.
Who else would be sitting up
there, all shady like that?
Oh.
They stood up. Hold on.
- She started walking.
She's coming this way.
- This is a long walk of truth.
- Word.
- I'm trying to get
a better look--
- Can you see anything?
This has got to be her.
- Mm.
- Well, this has got to be her.
- Yeah.
Hmm.
- How you doing?
I'm Nev.
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Of course, you know CJ,
but we don't know who you are.
- Rebecca.
- Rebecca.
Okay.
Nice to finally meet you.
Do you want to explain
what's going on here?
- I don't even
know where to start.
- What's your deal?
I mean what of Shana is true?
What's not true?
Who are you?
- I think Shana,
as a general person,
that's really who I am.
- Yeah, maybe the personality.
- Yeah.
- I got a question.
So this whole time
you was in Syracuse?
- Yeah.
- Why did you tell me
that you live in New Jersey?
- I made up, like, New Jersey
and other places I lived,
to try to, like,
get away from the situation,
because I felt bad.
- How did you keep it for,
like, eight years? Like--
- Just didn't tell anybody.
- So if you never had any
intentions on meeting him,
what was the point
of all of this?
- Honestly, I don't know.
I had a lot--
when I made the Facebook,
I was in a situation
trying to catch the person
I was with cheating,
so I made the Facebook
to do that.
That's how I ended up
talking to CJ.
- How did you get
all those pictures though?
- Some girl that was friends
with my son on Facebook.
- Oh. How many kids
do you have?
- Five.
- Wow.
- Do you really
have a daughter?
- I do.
I call her [bleep].
- Was she really sick
and stuff?
- No.
- So you set up a GoFundMe page
for a daughter...
- I did.
- ...with fake cancer.
That's seriously sick.
- Sick.
- Were you--
- I think I was just--
I was trying to cover the lie
that I had told him.
I wasn't--I didn't have,
like--it wasn't--
"Oh, well, I'm just gonna
rob people of their money."
It was another lie
to cover another lie,
to cover another lie.
- Who's Destiny?
- Me.
- Hmm.
- Are you serious?
Why did you tell me
that you died?
- I just--like, I really
just wanted to be done
with the situation.
I didn't want to keep lying,
but then I felt bad,
because you were
really hurt over--
- But then you started talking
to other people as Destiny
and, obviously, continued
talking as Shana, too,
because we reached out
to a handful of people
on "Shana's" Facebook page,
and most of them having
very similar stories to CJ.
- Mm-hmm.
- If you had done it
to one person,
you maybe could say
you felt bad.
But to see that
you've been doing it to--
I don't even know how many.
I mean, do you even know
how many people
you've talked to as her?
- No, most of them, minus CJ,
was more or less
to just keep
that image going,
so that people wouldn't think
that it was a fake Facebook.
I never took those
conversations seriously.
It wasn't--
- Well, they did
take it seriously.
I understand
the original reason
for making the Shana profile
was something else,
but when you met CJ,
was it just for fun
to talk to him, or did you--
- I really cared about--
like, I really started
having feelings for him, and--
- Right, but he was 17,
and you're not in your 20s.
No offense.
How old are you?
- 38.
- Wow, so okay.
You were 30 when you met him.
- Yeah. I didn't
really think about it.
- But you knew he was 17
when you met him.
- Yeah.
- That's kinda messed up.
Like, it's one thing to mess
with people your own age,
but, like, to mess with a kid
for eight years of his,
like, young adult life?
- I don't know, I'm just hurt
about it, like, 'cause--
- I wasn't trying to hurt you.
- That's not true.
He had girlfriends
that you [bleep] with.
- Yeah, when I was in
a relationship and stuff,
and you sabotaged
some of my relationships,
and you was in a relationship
with other people though.
- No, I didn't.
- Some of 'em you did.
- You never texted or messaged
any of the girls he was dating?
- I don't remember that.
- Hmm. Are you serious?
That's-that's crazy.
I gotta go for a second.
- ♪ Do it for you ♪
♪ Why don't I do it for you ♪
- You good?
- After everything we've been
through, eight years,
I didn't think
it was gonna be like this.
That's eight years'
worth of lies.
I'm hurt honestly.
- ♪ Why didn't do it for you ♪
- Hey.
- Are you okay?
- He's so much a part
of my life.
All my good moments.
All my bad moments.
When I needed somebody to talk
to he was always there,
and I was just always worried
that he was just gonna
not be there anymore.
And then I was afraid he was
gonna hate me on top of that.
- And she said she didn't
sabotage
some of my relationships.
She did.
- Mm-hmm.
Eight years and she's doing the
same thing with other people.
- Same thing
with everybody else, right.
- I feel horrible.
- Do you?
'Cause I'm hearing you
express feelings for yourself
and not wanting him
to hate you,
but, like, it doesn't take
into account the fact that--
- That I deceived him.
- Yeah, so I think,
for his sake, think
a little bit about him.
- Okay.
- Dig a little deeper,
and then let's meet back up.
- Yeah.
- All right, great.
So I'll speak to you soon.
- Okay.
- ♪ They're watching us ♪
- We're gonna meet back up
with her, in a little bit.
- ♪ They're waiting ♪
♪ And hoping ♪
♪ And watching us ♪
- I mean, look, eight years.
She really played you.
She knew exactly how
to manipulate you...
- Mm-hmm.
- And what to say,
and how to keep
you around, and--
- Keep me going and stuff,
and now, that's got me
wondering, like, what else
have you been lying about?
- I think she does still owe
an apology for a lot of this,
so I'll text her.
Let her know we're here.
What do you think? How
you feeling about everything?
- I'm still in shock right now
a little bit, still, about it,
but it's like we can work out
something to be friends.
I don't think that we can
be together or anything though.
- But it's crazy to me
the way you say,
"I don't really think
I'd want to be
in a relationship with her,"
after what she's done. Like--
- No. I'm not.
- Right.
Of course you don't want to be
in a relationship with her.
- And she's gonna try
to make you feel bad
for not dating her.
- Right.
- Like she always does when
you don't want to talk to her.
- Right.
- But like I said,
I feel like, if we do talk,
we can work out something to be
friends, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't want
to just leave her.
- You're such a nice person.
It's like you almost feel
uncomfortable just saying,
"She's crazy.
I don't want to have
anything to do with her."
I mean, she knew exactly
how to manipulate you.
You need to be
very clear with her
that you have
no interest in her,
in any kind of physical,
romantic way.
- No. I don't.
- Okay, 'cause I didn't think
you did, but, like,
I haven't been able
to tell for sure,
'cause you've sort of...
- Right.
- Been sweet-talking it.
- She's here.
- Hey.
- Hi.
- Have a seat.
Join us.
I think you have more
you want to say,
so I just wanted to give us
a chance to do that.
- I feel like
I overstepped the line.
The boundaries.
I'm gonna cry.
I didn't mean to hurt you.
I wasn't setting out
to hurt you.
I didn't really think about
what I was doing either.
You've been there eight years,
and I don't want--like,
I just don't want you
to not be there anymore.
And I'm sorry.
- I accept your apology.
I care about you.
I do love you a lot
and stuff,
but I feel like
we should just be friends.
Just friends.
- Okay.
So you do not want
to date her
or have a romantic
relationship with her?
- No. I don't.
- Okay.
- Are you gonna be okay
just being friends with him?
You're not gonna make
some new profile--
- No. [laughs]
- 'Cause I know you know
how to play games,
especially how to, like,
reel him in and pull
at his heartstrings.
- I don't think nobody gonna be
able to do that no more.
- Right.
- I got my guards up.
I'm now ready for it,
so you know.
- But as far as the mystery,
and the romance,
and the stalking--
that's over.
- It's over.
- I can finally
put this to rest.
- Yep.
[computer chimes]
- CJ!
How's it going, man?
- Doing all right.
- Nice. What happened
after we left?
Did you and Rebecca talk?
- We talked for, like,
about a week as a friend.
- Really?
- I just left it at that.
I'm basically just over it.
I'm just done with it.
I got the closure I needed,
so I started talking to
my friend, and she's my age.
- Wait. Now, you and your
friend are dating?
- Yeah.
- Oh, wow.
- We dating before.
Now, we just, like--we started
all over again basically.
- Wow.
I'm glad it all worked out.
- I'm glad you guys
could help me.
- Glad we could help.
- See you soon.
- Have a good summer, man.
- See you.
- Later.
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00:41:14.
this hot girl on Facebook.
- Eight years.
- Wow.
- She was like,
"Hey, Shana passed away."
- Something's off.
- I saw her. I saw her.
It's a picture of us.
See? I'm looking at her.
This is our first
"Catfish" stalker.
- We are pulling up.
[intense music]
- Hey, guys, Nev here,
and we're back
with a brand-new batch
of all new "Catfish" episodes.
Let's do it.
We've been making this show
for over seven years,
and we've done
over 125 episodes.
- You're a coward, man.
- And what's amazing
is we're still encountering
things we've never seen before.
He was dead for a couple days.
What?
- Everybody in Hawaii
is in on this.
- ♪ What we see is just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
- New ways to fall in love.
We've never had
two hopefuls hook up.
All new deceptions.
- You just lied about
so much [bleep].
- And new
what-the-[bleep] firsts
that are gonna
completely flip the script
on what you think
you know about "Catfish."
- He has a twin.
- An identical twin?
So join me and all
our favorite co-hosts.
- Are we gonna get jumped?
- Oh, my God.
- As we dive headfirst into
an all-new season of episodes.
Each with a unique
"Catfish" first.
- ♪ What we see is just
the tip of the iceberg ♪
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Drop, drop,
drop that beat ♪
♪ ♪
You're probably wondering,
"Who's the co-host
gonna be this episode?"
Who's gonna be the co-host?
Ladies and gentlemen,
Justin Combs is in the house.
What's up, man?
- What up, how are you?
- Justin Combs
is a triple threat.
He's a star athlete who played
for the UCLA Bruins,
a current Harvard MBA student,
and if that wasn't enough,
he's also a VP at the family
business Combs Enterprises.
Today, we are so excited
to have Justin Combs.
- Nice to meet you.
- It's nice to meet you.
- I've been a big fan
of the show.
I've been watching it
for a minute,
so it's an honor to be here.
I'm excited.
- Same.
- When I just see a fake
account wasting someone's time,
I definitely want to help,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm big on finding the truth.
I definitely want
to help somebody out.
- You came to the right place.
All right.
Well, should we tuck in
and see what we got here?
All right.
We got an email here from CJ.
"Hey, Nev and Justin, I'm 25,
work as a cook,
"and live up in Syracuse,
New York, with my family.
Eight years ago, I saw this
hot girl on Facebook."
- ♪ I know I was a fool
when I first met you girl ♪
- "Her name is Shana.
She was 21, and
she lived in New Jersey."
So wait, so eight years ago
he was, like, 17?
- So he had
a nice, older woman.
- Yeah. "We had a bunch of
mutual friends,
"so I sent her a message.
She responded,
and we hit it off."
- ♪ I knew in my heart
that I'd been saved ♪
- "Shana was a nurse
and had a baby daughter, Nunu."
- Okay, Nunu.
- "We exchanged numbers
"and started talking
all the time.
"Shana was perfect,
and when she asked
if she could be my boo,
I immediately said yes."
- ♪ I love you ♪
- "There are a lot of crazy
things about our story,
but the craziest thing
is that I really love her."
♪ ♪
"But every time
"I try to make plans
to meet face-to-face,
it never happened because
of something on her end."
- That's fishy.
- "Two years ago,
"she actually moved
from New Jersey to Syracuse.
"We were in the same town,
but she still
couldn't meet me."
That's ridiculous.
- Yeah.
- "I need to find out
what's going on.
"If she's not who
she says she is,
"then who have
I been talking to,
"and why would they do this
to me for so long?
I hope you can help me, CJ."
- This is spicy.
- Yeah.
Eight years is a long time.
- Yeah, he's been talking her
for a minute,
so we gotta try to figure
something out for him.
- All right.
Let's give him a call.
[computer chimes]
Yo!
- What up?
- How you doing?
- Good, good. How you doing?
- Good.
Nev here, and I have...
- Justin.
- Justin helping me out
on this episode.
- Nice to meet you guys.
- Cool, so tell us
this whole story,
going all the way back
to when you first met Shana.
- Well, it started off
on Facebook.
I saw her in my
"people you may know,"
and instantly, I just
started hitting her up,
and she replied back.
She told me she was 21,
and I was 17,
so I felt like the big guy
around campus
and stuff, you know.
- Yeah. A nice older thing.
I like that.
- Mm-hmm, so we got
into a relationship,
and I was supposed
to meet her in New Jersey,
but she disappeared on me.
- Did she ever explain
what happened or--
- The whole time
that we've been talking
it's been excuses
about everything.
Like, "I got called
in to work,"
or, "I got bad service."
Why we can't video chat.
- You kept talking
obviously, after...
- Mm-hmm.
Like, she always knew
what to say to get me back.
- Yeah.
- So me and her
is just talking.
Then a year after,
she disappeared,
and then I got a weird
message in my email,
and it was her friend,
Destiny Lopez.
She said,
"Hey, Shana is my friend,
and she passed away."
- Had you ever heard
of Destiny before,
or she just was
a random friend of Shana?
- Just a random person.
- Wow.
- So I was feeling
heartbroken.
I was hurt,
and I cared about her,
and I loved her,
so I'm like I just lost a girl
that I never even met yet,
anyways, too.
It was, like, hard
for me to move on.
I was talking to other girls
and stuff like that,
and then I started
dating other girls,
but it was just hard.
- When Shana died...
- Yes.
- Did her Facebook page
go away, or did it just--
- Disappeared completely.
- It disappeared.
- And then two years later,
I'm scrolling on Facebook,
and it says
"people you may know."
Shana Vasquez, so--
- Wait, wait, wait. Sorry.
You find out from
Shana's friend that she died,
and you don't talk to her
for two years.
- Two years.
- And then, all of a sudden,
she pops up in--
- I'm scrolling on Facebook,
and I start
instantly hitting her
with messages.
I'm like, "Are you kidding me?
It's been two years.
"I thought that
you were done like that.
Like, where the [bleep] you
been? What's going on?"
You know what I mean? Like--
- Yeah.
- Wow. Back from the dead.
- Wow.
- Mm-hmm,
and then she told me,
"I apologize.
I've been going through stuff.
"I just got out
of a bad relationship.
It was
a violent relationship,
and I didn't know
how to handle it," and stuff.
Like, she always knew
how to get me back.
When she popped back up,
I was in a relationship.
- And what happened
to that relationship?
- Oh, we broke up.
- Think it had something to do
with Shana being back?
- Mm-hmm.
She caught me texting her
and stuff like that,
you know, so it was like--
- Oh, man!
Texting a dead girl?
- Yeah.
- You broke up with a real,
living person
for a Facebook zombie?
- [chuckles] Mm-hmm.
- You must really love Shana.
- I do. I love her.
- Eight years is a long time
to be waiting, man.
- We gonna figure
this out though.
- I'm ready.
- We got you.
- All right. Thank you, guys.
- All right, later.
- Wow. Eight years? Come on.
- That was crazy.
- What is this guy
hanging on to this for?
- Man.
- She had a "friend"
tell him she died.
To then come back
and allow the relationship
to pick up
where you left off...
- Yeah.
- Is, like, evil.
- Definitely. Yeah.
- Like, let this poor boy go.
- Eight years.
- Either she just
has incredibly strong feelings
for him that she can't let go,
or she loves messing
with this guy.
- Yeah. I don't know.
Shana's cold-blooded.
- Well, I'm down.
Let's hit the road.
- Let's do it.
Let's do it.
- All right.
- Let's go.
- ♪ Look out the window ♪
♪ Beyond the trees ♪
♪ They're making plans ♪
♪ Lying on the beach ♪
♪ You've got people
behind the scenes ♪
- Man, I'm excited.
I want to figure this out
for him and help him out.
- Whoever Shana is
she's clearly hiding something.
- For sure.
Something's off.
- Shady Shana.
- Shady Shana.
- All right, let's do it.
"No playing on porch.
"No sitting in my chairs.
Ring doorbell once.
Knock as much as you please."
Start with that.
[doorbell chimes]
What's up?
Good to see you, man.
Let's head on in.
What's that say?
"No playing in my house.
No eating food
on my furniture."
- "At all."
- At all.
"Woman boss of this house."
Your mom's got a lot of rules.
- Yeah.
- She's pretty tough?
- Yeah. On me.
- All right.
Well, let's sit down.
All right, so Justin and I
have been trying to think why,
after eight years, you've still
never met this woman.
- It might be the baby dad's
still probably--
- So you think, because
of her relationship,
that's why she hasn't met you?
- I mean that's the only thing
I can think of,
'cause when she died and stuff
like that she told me
that she's going through
a bad relationship.
- Right, so even when you guys
started talking,
she still, obviously, had
a connection to her baby daddy.
- Yes. That's what I think
is going on still.
- Who knows?
- Yeah. That's--
- What about the person
who actually
told you that she died?
Who was that?
- So...
- Oh, yeah.
- Destiny Lopez.
- Destiny. Okay.
- She randomly came
out of the blue.
Like, "Hey, I know you
and Shana used to talk.
Shana passed away."
I'm like, "Who are you?
"Like, Shana never told me
nothing about you
"and stuff like that, like,
so are you sure?
Like, what happened?"
And I seen that she lived
in New Jersey, too,
about the same area
that Shana was living.
So I'm like, "Wow, she gotta
know what she talking about."
Then I instantly went to Shana
writing her like,
"What happened?"
Nothing. And then, one day,
the Facebook was gone.
- Shana's profile disappeared.
- Yes and Destiny's profile
disappeared too.
- That's weird.
- Yeah.
- And then, a year-and-a-half
later, Shana comes back,
and didn't you just think like,
"This is crazy?" Like--
- I wanted to drop it, but we
knew each other for so long.
It was something in me
that I was like,
"I gotta find out
who this was."
I told so much to her.
We used to talk nonstop.
Day and night. Fall asleep
on the phone sometimes.
- Wow.
- I even told her I loved her.
She done told me she loved me.
- So you guys have said
you're in love?
- Yes. I feel like
it's a connection there.
It's just that one part-
-who she is--'cause she done
came in and out of my life
a bunch of times already,
so I just gotta know.
- Yeah.
If we assume, for a moment,
that Shana is not the girl
in the photographs,
how much has she lied
about that?
Like, has she sent you lots
and lots of pictures?
Is she always posting?
Does she text you stuff?
- She send me pictures
all the time.
I got a couple pictures--
- Pictures that she was posting
or just separate, like,
"just for you" pictures?
- It's a couple "just for me"
pictures that she sent me.
Like, freaky pictures.
- Oh, really?
- You can see.
- Whoa. I didn't--
- I'm like,
"I can't turn that off,"
you know? From--
- Okay, so here she is.
Wait a second.
That is a lot of pictures.
Okay, the booty pic.
Wait. What is--this
picture of a vagina?
- Yeah.
- Weird.
Could have gave us a warning.
- For real.
- But she sent it to you? Yeah.
- And you've sent a bunch
of pictures of yourself?
- Yes.
- Naughty ones?
- Yeah.
- So you know that, if a person
was comfortable enough
to send you
those types of photos,
they're comfortable enough
to FaceTime or video chat.
- Sure.
- Either they're
catfishing you...
- Right.
- And they're not the person
in the pictures,
or they just don't like you,
and they don't really want
to meet you.
Now, I don't know why
she'd keep talking to you...
- Right.
If she didn't like me.
- Unless you were
giving her money,
or doing her favors,
but you're not.
- Not a dime.
- Not a dime.
- Can't do that. I just--
I got a lot of questions,
'cause I got love for her.
I done lost
a couple girlfriends
and stuff like that,
in the past,
and stuff,
over texting her and stuff.
- When you were dating
other girls did you tell Shana?
- She'll find out,
like, Facebook
or something like that.
- And does she get jealous or--
- Mm-hmm. Yes.
- She does?
So she doesn't let you have
your other relationships
peacefully?
- Mm-hmm.
- She, like, starts texting--
- Yeah. Texting me.
Texting the girl sometimes.
Whoa.
Really?
- What?
She got the girl's number?
- Not number.
Facebook and stuff, yeah.
- Wow, so she has, like,
actively sabotaged
your other relationships.
- A couple of 'em. Yeah.
- This girl sounds crazy.
- Yeah.
- Why are you messing
with this girl?
- I'm just in too deep
basically.
- Gotta find out
who it is though.
- Yeah. That's what I'm--
- That's what
I'm thinking about.
- We've got permission.
Send us what you've got,
and we'll check in with you
in the morning.
We'll let you know how it goes.
- Thank you, guys.
- All right.
- See you later.
[bleep].
- Well, we've definitely got
our hands full with this one.
- Mm-hmm.
- Eight years is a long time
to be talking to someone,
and for that person
to have been dead
for two years of that
is so messed up.
- And on top of that, sabotaged
his current relationships.
- Yeah, no, this girl has
crossed the line.
- Very dark.
- We could be dealing
with someone
with some serious problems.
- Yeah.
[exhales]
[dramatic musical sting]
- All right.
Let's crack this case.
- Let's do it.
- Smells like
investigation in here.
Love it. All right,
so we've got CJ. Good guy.
- Mm-hmm.
- He met this girl Shana.
She pops up in his
"people you may know."
She's fine.
- Little bit older.
- Couple years older.
They start talking,
and eight years later,
they're still talking.
- And two out of those
eight years she was dead.
- He thought she was dead,
because a friend of hers,
Destiny, told him
she was dead.
- That was crazy.
- Perhaps the most
messed up part--
- She sabotaged
his old relationships.
Not cool.
- The level of boldness
of Shana's lies are,
I think, the biggest
we've ever seen.
- Yeah. She's cold-blooded.
- All right. Let's get into it.
"Shana's name is Shana Vasquez.
She's 29.
"Her daughter's name is Nunu,
and she's eight.
"The friend on Facebook
that told me Shana died
"was Destiny Lopez,
"but her page
disappeared real fast.
"Attaching the pics
I showed you.
"Hope you figure out
what's going on.
I can't keep doing
this forever."
Ready to do
a little image search?
Here we go.
Let's start with this one.
- Let's see. Let's see.
Let's see.
- All right, so nothing there.
Let's try this one.
All right, so nothing
with the photos.
Let's go to her Facebook page.
- Okay.
- There are definitely
a bunch of photos.
Her. Her daughter.
It is more convincing
than catfish profiles
I've seen before.
- Usually it's not
a lot of photos.
- Right.
Look, she posted--
She was trying to raise
1,500 bucks, she said,
"My daughter was diagnosed
with cancer in her leg.
I am a single mom with no
family to help." Wow.
- Did she receive
any money on this?
- Doesn't look like it,
but if that's not her daughter,
and she's got a fundraiser page
set up for a fake daughter
with a fake cancer, like...
- Yeah.
- That's...
- That's sick.
- Seriously sick.
- Next level. I'm starting
to hope this is real,
just so I don't see
that there's cruel people
like this outside,
in the world.
- Let's just look at her
friends, and reach out,
and see if anyone's
ever laid eyes on this girl.
- Okay.
- Here we go.
Some comments here.
Who's Bubba?
He said, "What you doin'?"
And she wrote back,
"Why you ain't
message me back?"
So they clearly have
some correspondence.
- Sure.
- "Hey, Bubba."
Possible friend.
Naji says, "Look at my Nunu."
So that person obviously knows
who her daughter is.
Naji from Syracuse.
Let's send him a message.
All right,
so that could be good.
Whoa. Call real quick.
Hello? Who is this?
- Bubba. Okay.
Thanks for getting back to me.
We're working
on a case right now.
There's a guy
who lives in Syracuse
who has been talking
to this girl for a long time.
Her name is Shana.
- How do you know her?
- She requested you?
- Did she ever talk
about her daughter Nunu?
- Did she ever ask you
for money?
- All right, man.
Have a good rest of your day.
- Thank you.
- Bye.
- If she's talking to all these
guys to try and get money,
so far,
she's not doing so great.
She's got this fundraiser, but
it doesn't seem to have worked.
No one gave anything.
- I thought it's to get money.
- Yeah.
- But my head is spinning now.
- Let's do a phone
number search.
Nothing.
- I don't like it.
We gotta get
to the bottom of this.
- Oh. Here we go.
Utica, New York.
- Oh, [bleep].
- Hello?
- Oh, hey. What's up, man?
We saw you were friends
with a girl named Shana.
- Oh, like, date
in real life, in person?
- Wow, and when was that?
- And what happened?
Why didn't you guys
ever meet up?
- Did you ever have any,
like, proof that Shana
lived in Syracuse?
- And she messaged you like,
"Hey, I saw you at your work?"
- That's creepy.
- Very.
- Whoa. That's some, like,
shady stalker [bleep].
- And did she ever mention
her friend Destiny?
- What's Destiny's Facebook?
Can you respond and a link
to her page or something?
- Oh, great. Okay.
- Do you know anyone
that's ever met up
with her or seen her?
- So you're telling me there's
another guy in Syracuse
who's been talking to her
for that long?
- She's crazy.
- I'd love to talk to Pape,
if you can send me his info.
- All right.
Thanks so much. Bye.
Whoa. Wow.
This just took another turn.
Next level [bleep], man.
This girl is talking
to lots of guys.
- Two eight-year relationships?
- And she's, like, seeing
these guys
and texting them like,
"Oh, I just called
your name out at your work."
I mean we've never had a serial
"Catfish" stalker before.
I mean, that's a creepy first.
It's starting to just feel like
she likes to mess with people.
Oh, we've got a message.
Naji sent--whoa--
a lot of screenshots.
Here's Pape.
Let's just send him a message.
All right, so let's
hopefully talk to Pape.
Here Naji is texting
with Destiny
or messaging with her.
"You really going to take
care of Shay and Nunu?"
She's, like,
making sure these guys
that Shana's talking to are,
like, serious.
So let's just see if we can
find this profile for Destiny.
Oh, there she is.
Destiny Lopez.
Also very pretty.
This Destiny page feels a lot
like Shana's page.
- Shana could be using
this account to speak
to whoever she wants
when she doesn't want
to speak to them as Shana.
[phone rings]
- Oh, boy. Hello?
- Yay. What's up, Pape?
We're trying to figure out
what's going on
with this girl Shana.
- It's official?
- How do you know?
- Wow.
- Oh, no.
- Right.
- I think they might
actually be the same person.
- And we're gonna try
and figure this out, man.
- All right. Later.
- God bless. Thank you.
- Wow.
This girl--this is really
our first serial
"Catfish" stalker.
She was there.
The address was real,
but she was either
in a different house
or looking from the window.
- That's creepy.
- She saw him the car.
- Whoever this is has a lot
of time on their hands.
- Right, and if you're a guy
in Syracuse--
- She's trying to get at you.
- She'll--watch out.
- Beware of Shana.
- Nobody's safe.
- That's just crazy.
- Who knows how many other
guys are driving around
the state looking
for this girl.
But we know she's out there
looking for them.
- We gotta go talk to CJ now
and tell him
that everything we know
about Shana suggests
that she's lying about
some major part of her life.
- A lot of news to break him.
- I'll let you handle this one.
- Let's do it.
[doorbell chimes]
- Hello?
- Hello.
- What's good?
How you doing?
Come on in.
- What's up?
- What's up, man?
- I'm doing good.
- So we did some snooping.
- Whoo.
- So let's just get into it.
All right,
so the first thing we did
was we image searched
pictures.
Nothing.
- Nothing? Oh.
- So that's good, because
it means that she's not
just some Instagram model
with a bunch of followers.
Not getting any hits
on pictures
is usually a good thing.
- Oh.
- All right, so the next thing
we looked at
was her Facebook page.
This doesn't immediately
strike me as a fake account.
- Right.
- I mean, look.
There's plenty of photos.
- Got her daughter.
- She's got pictures
of her daughter.
She's got people commenting,
so we basically said, "Okay.
Let's go through as many
of her posts as we can."
We found this.
Eight months ago,
she created this page
to raise money
for her daughter's illness.
- Yes. I remember that.
- Not to say that there's
anything wrong with that,
but if this isn't true,
and she did this whole thing
and she shared it
on her Facebook page,
that's really messed up.
- Right.
- So then we thought,
"Let's find comments or
interactions that seem to be
between her and, like,
an actual friend."
So we reached out
to a bunch of people.
- So Bubba, he's from Syracuse.
- Met her, just like you,
online four years ago.
- Oh, wow.
- They flirted on and off.
They never video chatted
or met.
- Right.
- [sighs]
- We ended up then getting
a phone call from Naji.
- Mm-hmm.
- Naji's from Syracuse.
They spoke
for four to five months.
He spoke with Destiny.
- Right, so he--
- Oh, wow.
That's [bleep] crazy.
She must got me blocked
or something.
- Right.
Which is also kind of weird.
He sent us these
conversations with Shana.
- Naji got a lot.
- She sent a lot of heart eyes.
It's, like, very intimate
considering that you guys
were talking then, too, right?
- Yes.
- So it's kind of messed up,
because now we've talked
to two guys. Both of whom...
- Are saying the same thing.
- Have had similar experiences
where they thought they had
something going with Shana.
- Same thing going on with me.
- Right.
- I wasn't expecting all this.
This is crazy.
- Gets crazier though.
- Right.
- He knows of one other guy
that she spoke to.
His name was Pape.
- So then we talked to Pape.
- Yes.
- Also been talking to her
for eight years.
She gave him an address.
He drove there to meet her.
- Really?
- 40 miles.
- They, like, had a plan.
- You gotta be kidding me
right now.
- He got there.
- And then it's creepy.
She's texting him.
Describing his clothing.
- Right.
- Describing what car he's in.
- But never met him.
- That's--
- That's creepy.
Someone just watching you,
and you don't know
they're watching you.
- Look, man,
there's a lot of guys
this girl
has been doing this to.
I have a feeling there are
a lot of other guys.
- Really extra not cool.
[somber music]
- You all right?
- Yeah, I'm all right.
I wasn't expecting all that.
- ♪ We can never take
the harm that's been done ♪
- A lot of lies.
♪ ♪
- ♪ But you can
certainly think ♪
♪ About the one
that's about to become ♪
- What does Shana want?
Does she even like you at all?
- That's what
I want to know now.
- Are you just one
of the many people
she's messing with for fun?
- I thought it was
'cause she really liked me.
I thought I had this loyal
girl, and she--yeah.
- Right. Not everything
about her might be real,
but I thought at least
what you guys had...
- Was real.
- Was real.
- This is my breaking point,
honestly,
and it's like--I don't know.
I can't trust her now.
I just want to find out, like,
what is she getting out of it?
That's what I want to know.
- ♪ No you don't let
a single drop go to waste ♪
- The only thing we know
for sure is that
she's actively working
on [bleep] with people.
This needs to stop.
- At this point,
I'm less concerned
with whether Shana or Destiny
are the people in the pictures
and more concerned with
why are they messing with you
and seemingly
every other guy in Syracuse?
- One of the most messed up
parts about this
is that she was trying
to sabotage his relationship.
- Yeah, that's--
- Really extra not cool.
- What does Shana want?
- That's what I want
to know now.
- Let me call her
and just see what she says.
- Hope for the best.
- Right.
[line ringing]
- Your call
has been forwarded
to an automated voice
messaging system.
- I'll leave a message.
[beep]
- Hey, this is Nev from
the show "Catfish"
trying to get
in touch with Shana.
I'm actually in Syracuse
right now, and I'm with CJ.
I know you guys have been
talking a long time.
Always tried to meet up,
but you haven't been able to.
We're hoping to help
make that finally happen.
Hopefully,
we'll hear from you soon.
Thanks. Bye.
Ball is in her court now.
She clearly knows
that we're here.
We know that she's hiding
something. Let's play it cool.
Let's let her make
the decision, hopefully,
for herself,
that it's definitely time.
Hopefully, I'll have an update
for you in the morning.
We'll get out of your hair.
[phone chimes]
- Oh, [bleep].
Wow. She just wrote.
- Wait. Shana just texted you?
- Yeah.
- What?
- Shana just texting you
and said,
"I can't believe
you're doing this.
This is BS. I'm blocking you."
Wait. Don't text her back.
Clearly is a little spooked.
Maybe she's acting.
Maybe this whole reaction
is sort of just what she does.
Don't say anything yet.
Let's give her the night
to think about it.
- All righty, I got you.
See you guys later.
- All right, brother.
- All right.
- You got this though.
Stay positive.
- I'm trying.
- Gonna figure it out.
All right, bro.
See you later.
- All right, brother.
- Yes, sir.
Ooh.
- What is going on
with this girl?
She's definitely having
all the same conversations
with lots of different guys.
- That definitely hurts.
- Yeah.
- You don't feel
special anymore.
- If you're gonna get lied to,
you want to at least
be the only one...
- Yeah.
- Who's getting lied to.
- People that lie to me
just lie to me.
- Right.
- No one else.
- We gotta be careful,
'cause she might just ghost.
[line ringing]
- Hello? What's up?
- Yo, CJ.
- What's up, man?
We're a little anxious.
I have not heard anything back
from Shana. Have you?
- Nothing since yesterday
and she said like,
"I'm blocking you?"
- Wow.
- Can we just pull up?
Is that an option?
- Of course. I mean,
she gave Pape an address.
It might actually
be where she's at.
All right, well, we gotta
figure something out.
Where are you now?
- CJ, if she does not answer,
we are pulling up.
- Yes.
- Yeah.
- Pull up game.
[camera shutter clicks faintly]
- Let's get in there.
[doorbell chimes]
- Well, actually,
like three minutes
before you guys got here,
she actually hit me up.
- Really? She just said,
"Just met Nev.
Still can't believe
you did this."
- I saw her. I saw her.
It's a picture of us...
- I didn't even notice that.
- Walking out.
I saw that woman
sitting in the lobby.
- Really? When we walked
into the hotel I saw a woman
sitting in the lobby,
like this, and I even--
- She took a picture of us?
- And I even looked at her.
You can see I'm looking at her,
'cause I was like,
"That lady's kind of creepy
sitting there like"--
I could tell
she was taking pictures,
and I didn't say anything.
I noticed her.
- That's the same thing
she probably did
to the other dude, Pape.
You think she followed us here?
- Let me just see if I can
remember what she looked like.
Wait. Do we have--wait.
You filmed us walking out.
- Can you replay it?
- Wait. We have--
- She literally just sent
this stuff to me actually.
That's why it's crazy.
- Here's the footage
from the lobby.
Let's see if we can spot her.
All right. Here we go.
We started walking here,
and she'll be sitting right
on the other side of this wall.
- Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- That's [bleep] weird.
- But, oh, man, I don't know
if you can see her.
Wait, wait.
She'd be right here.
- She got us.
- Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh!
- Oh, you...
- Come on.
- Just missed it.
- Oh, man!
That's a "Catfish" first.
- That's never happened
before on here?
- No, nothing like this
has ever happened.
We've never had a catfish,
like, creep up on us like that.
- Wow.
- Yeah.
Well, she's definitely--
I can 100% confirm,
had I looked at her
and it was the girl
in the pictures,
I would have remembered that.
- Wow.
- She's playing with us.
I mean...
- Yeah.
- This girl likes
to really play games,
so you should respond.
- I said, "So you met Nev.
Now can I meet you?
I'm so eager to meet you.
Please."
- Right.
- She's calling.
- She's calling.
Put it on speaker.
- Hello?
- Hey, Shana.
- I can't believe
you were sitting there.
I looked right at you.
- You want to meet up
somewhere or something?
- Hey.
Hey, Shana, it's Nev.
I think everyone just wants to
know who you are, the real you,
and get a chance
to get to know you.
- We are not trying to make you
feel bad or anything like that.
We just want to find out
who you really are.
- All right. Perfect.
We'll see you then.
- All right. Great.
Thanks, Shana.
Bye. Okay.
- That's [bleep] crazy.
- Let's do it.
- You ready?
- Yep. Ready. Let's go.
- Let's go.
How do you feel
that you kind of know
it's not the person
you thought it was?
- I'm hurt about it
a little bit.
- What if she's,
like, still pretty though?
Look past everything.
- Yeah. I'ma try.
I'ma try, because
I'm not gonna just--
- You'll give it a chance.
- Yeah. I'ma give it a chance.
- Really? So you still think,
like, if there's an attraction,
and she can explain everything,
you're still down to,
like, go on a date?
- Go on a date.
- Or something.
- Be friends. Yeah.
- Wow.
- 'Cause it's like everybody
go through something,
and I'm not the one
to judge about it, you know?
[phone chimes]
- Oh.
Shana. "I see you.
Just go through--"
- Uh-oh.
- Wait. No.
"Just go through the gates,
and at the V,
go up to the left fork."
All right, so here's the V.
Here's the gate.
- Is that her
underneath the tree?
- No. That's someone
who works here.
- It can't be. I hope not.
- Shana is sneaky.
Where is she? Who is she?
She can be anyone.
- If she saw us, we should see
her pretty soon, right?
- Shana.
- Oh, is there someone up
on that bench?
- Yeah. It look like
somebody's up there.
- That's the only place she
could have seen us from, right?
- Yeah.
Yeah, and she looking too.
- Yeah, yeah.
That must be her.
Who else would be sitting up
there, all shady like that?
Oh.
They stood up. Hold on.
- She started walking.
She's coming this way.
- This is a long walk of truth.
- Word.
- I'm trying to get
a better look--
- Can you see anything?
This has got to be her.
- Mm.
- Well, this has got to be her.
- Yeah.
Hmm.
- How you doing?
I'm Nev.
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Of course, you know CJ,
but we don't know who you are.
- Rebecca.
- Rebecca.
Okay.
Nice to finally meet you.
Do you want to explain
what's going on here?
- I don't even
know where to start.
- What's your deal?
I mean what of Shana is true?
What's not true?
Who are you?
- I think Shana,
as a general person,
that's really who I am.
- Yeah, maybe the personality.
- Yeah.
- I got a question.
So this whole time
you was in Syracuse?
- Yeah.
- Why did you tell me
that you live in New Jersey?
- I made up, like, New Jersey
and other places I lived,
to try to, like,
get away from the situation,
because I felt bad.
- How did you keep it for,
like, eight years? Like--
- Just didn't tell anybody.
- So if you never had any
intentions on meeting him,
what was the point
of all of this?
- Honestly, I don't know.
I had a lot--
when I made the Facebook,
I was in a situation
trying to catch the person
I was with cheating,
so I made the Facebook
to do that.
That's how I ended up
talking to CJ.
- How did you get
all those pictures though?
- Some girl that was friends
with my son on Facebook.
- Oh. How many kids
do you have?
- Five.
- Wow.
- Do you really
have a daughter?
- I do.
I call her [bleep].
- Was she really sick
and stuff?
- No.
- So you set up a GoFundMe page
for a daughter...
- I did.
- ...with fake cancer.
That's seriously sick.
- Sick.
- Were you--
- I think I was just--
I was trying to cover the lie
that I had told him.
I wasn't--I didn't have,
like--it wasn't--
"Oh, well, I'm just gonna
rob people of their money."
It was another lie
to cover another lie,
to cover another lie.
- Who's Destiny?
- Me.
- Hmm.
- Are you serious?
Why did you tell me
that you died?
- I just--like, I really
just wanted to be done
with the situation.
I didn't want to keep lying,
but then I felt bad,
because you were
really hurt over--
- But then you started talking
to other people as Destiny
and, obviously, continued
talking as Shana, too,
because we reached out
to a handful of people
on "Shana's" Facebook page,
and most of them having
very similar stories to CJ.
- Mm-hmm.
- If you had done it
to one person,
you maybe could say
you felt bad.
But to see that
you've been doing it to--
I don't even know how many.
I mean, do you even know
how many people
you've talked to as her?
- No, most of them, minus CJ,
was more or less
to just keep
that image going,
so that people wouldn't think
that it was a fake Facebook.
I never took those
conversations seriously.
It wasn't--
- Well, they did
take it seriously.
I understand
the original reason
for making the Shana profile
was something else,
but when you met CJ,
was it just for fun
to talk to him, or did you--
- I really cared about--
like, I really started
having feelings for him, and--
- Right, but he was 17,
and you're not in your 20s.
No offense.
How old are you?
- 38.
- Wow, so okay.
You were 30 when you met him.
- Yeah. I didn't
really think about it.
- But you knew he was 17
when you met him.
- Yeah.
- That's kinda messed up.
Like, it's one thing to mess
with people your own age,
but, like, to mess with a kid
for eight years of his,
like, young adult life?
- I don't know, I'm just hurt
about it, like, 'cause--
- I wasn't trying to hurt you.
- That's not true.
He had girlfriends
that you [bleep] with.
- Yeah, when I was in
a relationship and stuff,
and you sabotaged
some of my relationships,
and you was in a relationship
with other people though.
- No, I didn't.
- Some of 'em you did.
- You never texted or messaged
any of the girls he was dating?
- I don't remember that.
- Hmm. Are you serious?
That's-that's crazy.
I gotta go for a second.
- ♪ Do it for you ♪
♪ Why don't I do it for you ♪
- You good?
- After everything we've been
through, eight years,
I didn't think
it was gonna be like this.
That's eight years'
worth of lies.
I'm hurt honestly.
- ♪ Why didn't do it for you ♪
- Hey.
- Are you okay?
- He's so much a part
of my life.
All my good moments.
All my bad moments.
When I needed somebody to talk
to he was always there,
and I was just always worried
that he was just gonna
not be there anymore.
And then I was afraid he was
gonna hate me on top of that.
- And she said she didn't
sabotage
some of my relationships.
She did.
- Mm-hmm.
Eight years and she's doing the
same thing with other people.
- Same thing
with everybody else, right.
- I feel horrible.
- Do you?
'Cause I'm hearing you
express feelings for yourself
and not wanting him
to hate you,
but, like, it doesn't take
into account the fact that--
- That I deceived him.
- Yeah, so I think,
for his sake, think
a little bit about him.
- Okay.
- Dig a little deeper,
and then let's meet back up.
- Yeah.
- All right, great.
So I'll speak to you soon.
- Okay.
- ♪ They're watching us ♪
- We're gonna meet back up
with her, in a little bit.
- ♪ They're waiting ♪
♪ And hoping ♪
♪ And watching us ♪
- I mean, look, eight years.
She really played you.
She knew exactly how
to manipulate you...
- Mm-hmm.
- And what to say,
and how to keep
you around, and--
- Keep me going and stuff,
and now, that's got me
wondering, like, what else
have you been lying about?
- I think she does still owe
an apology for a lot of this,
so I'll text her.
Let her know we're here.
What do you think? How
you feeling about everything?
- I'm still in shock right now
a little bit, still, about it,
but it's like we can work out
something to be friends.
I don't think that we can
be together or anything though.
- But it's crazy to me
the way you say,
"I don't really think
I'd want to be
in a relationship with her,"
after what she's done. Like--
- No. I'm not.
- Right.
Of course you don't want to be
in a relationship with her.
- And she's gonna try
to make you feel bad
for not dating her.
- Right.
- Like she always does when
you don't want to talk to her.
- Right.
- But like I said,
I feel like, if we do talk,
we can work out something to be
friends, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't want
to just leave her.
- You're such a nice person.
It's like you almost feel
uncomfortable just saying,
"She's crazy.
I don't want to have
anything to do with her."
I mean, she knew exactly
how to manipulate you.
You need to be
very clear with her
that you have
no interest in her,
in any kind of physical,
romantic way.
- No. I don't.
- Okay, 'cause I didn't think
you did, but, like,
I haven't been able
to tell for sure,
'cause you've sort of...
- Right.
- Been sweet-talking it.
- She's here.
- Hey.
- Hi.
- Have a seat.
Join us.
I think you have more
you want to say,
so I just wanted to give us
a chance to do that.
- I feel like
I overstepped the line.
The boundaries.
I'm gonna cry.
I didn't mean to hurt you.
I wasn't setting out
to hurt you.
I didn't really think about
what I was doing either.
You've been there eight years,
and I don't want--like,
I just don't want you
to not be there anymore.
And I'm sorry.
- I accept your apology.
I care about you.
I do love you a lot
and stuff,
but I feel like
we should just be friends.
Just friends.
- Okay.
So you do not want
to date her
or have a romantic
relationship with her?
- No. I don't.
- Okay.
- Are you gonna be okay
just being friends with him?
You're not gonna make
some new profile--
- No. [laughs]
- 'Cause I know you know
how to play games,
especially how to, like,
reel him in and pull
at his heartstrings.
- I don't think nobody gonna be
able to do that no more.
- Right.
- I got my guards up.
I'm now ready for it,
so you know.
- But as far as the mystery,
and the romance,
and the stalking--
that's over.
- It's over.
- I can finally
put this to rest.
- Yep.
[computer chimes]
- CJ!
How's it going, man?
- Doing all right.
- Nice. What happened
after we left?
Did you and Rebecca talk?
- We talked for, like,
about a week as a friend.
- Really?
- I just left it at that.
I'm basically just over it.
I'm just done with it.
I got the closure I needed,
so I started talking to
my friend, and she's my age.
- Wait. Now, you and your
friend are dating?
- Yeah.
- Oh, wow.
- We dating before.
Now, we just, like--we started
all over again basically.
- Wow.
I'm glad it all worked out.
- I'm glad you guys
could help me.
- Glad we could help.
- See you soon.
- Have a good summer, man.
- See you.
- Later.
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