Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 27 - Nique & Alice - full transcript
Co-host popstar, Elle King joins Nev to help Nique find her Tumblr love, Alice. Digging deep leads to more questions than answers as Nev and Elle have concerns about who Alice could be and what her true intentions are with Nique.
- Nique is in love
with Alice,
but Nique's still not sure--
is she real?
- Is she?
- [bleep]
She blocked me.
both: What?
- Alice?
- Yes.
- Whoa.
I mean, clearly something's up
with Alice.
[phone line beeping]
- There's really only so much
that a person can take.
[knocking on door]
- Whoa.
[dramatic musical sting]
Anybody feel like playing
Tic-tac-toe?
both: No.
- No?
I gotta find someone
to play Tic-tac-toe with.
Let's see if there's anyone
in the lobby
I can play with, here.
Busy?
Are you--
he's busy.
All right.
Oh, wait a second.
I see someone over here.
Hey!
- Hi!
- Hey, do you have a minute?
- Yeah.
- I wanted to play a game.
Are you familiar
with "X's and O's"?
- Yeah!
[laughing]
- Elle King is a real-deal,
international, mega popstar.
- ♪ I'm a fire ♪
♪ Just a spark
under your halo ♪
- Her hit single
"Ex's & Oh's"
shot to the top of the charts,
earning her two
Grammy nominations.
- ♪ Oh ♪
♪ Shame, shame,
shame, shame ♪
- Since there, her insane
singer/songwriter skills
have won her a CMA award
and an electrified fan base
that's already devouring
her second studio album.
- ♪ I can make you shake ♪
♪ Rattle your bones ♪
- Without further ado,
please welcome Elle King.
Whoo!
- [laughing]
Is it bad to clap for yourself?
- No, I think that's great.
- I'm just so excited
to be here!
Okay.
- So how does someone
like you...
- Yeah.
- Who is killing it
in the music industry
end up interested
in the show
and wanting to be a part of it?
- Uh, well I saw
the documentary.
I've watched the show
since the beginning
and I've seen
the whole thing unfold.
I also, like--I have been,
like, crazy ex-girlfriend.
I can hack into anything.
I don't know if I should
say that, but it's--
- So you feel like you have
a skill set you--
- I just want to put it
to good use.
I just--I'm here to help.
- All right.
We got an email from...
- "Nique-Nique."
- "Nique-Nique"?
Is that how we say that?
- Yeah.
- All right, here we go:
"Dear Nev and awesome
new co-host..."
- ♪ Yeah ♪
- That is actually
what it says.
It says, "Dear Nev
and awesome new co-host.
"My name is Nique.
- "I am 19,
and I was born and raised
in a small conservative town
called Orange, Texas."
- ♪ We can go out
on a Tuesday ♪
- "For most of my life,
I felt like I did not belong.
"My sanctuary became
the internet,
"where I found people
who shared my interests in art
and accepted me for who I am."
- Great.
- Yeah.
- ♪ Baby, you're
my favorite thing ♪
- "A year ago, I posted
a role-playing scenario..."
- Hey, all right.
- "On Tumblr.
"I created
a fictional character,
and I wanted someone to explore
the world I'd imagined."
- ♪ Baby, you're
my favorite thing ♪
- "One day, I received
a response from Alice,
"who had created a character
that was the entire universe."
- The character
is the universe.
- Whoa.
"It blew my mind,
and I responded right away."
- [mimics explosion]
- Wow.
[woman vocalizing]
"After a few weeks, we started
talking as ourselves,
"and it's not an exaggeration
to say that Alice became
one of the biggest parts
of my life."
- ♪ Baby, you're
my favorite thing ♪
- "She gets me,
she makes me feel loved,
she makes me feel good
about who I am."
- Aww.
- "While Alice makes me feel
"like I'm beautiful,
Alice is beautiful,
"so beautiful
that she's a model,
and seems to make
a living from it."
- Uh-oh.
- All right.
People make a living
from modeling.
- Yeah, sure.
- "The thing is,
"Alice refuses
to video chat with me,
"no matter how many times
I try to make it happen.
"She also travels all the time,
"taking road trips
with her friends,
"but she won't come visit me
in Texas.
I really hope
that you'll help me."
- ♪ Favorite thing ♪
- "Nique."
- Okay, a couple
red flags, right?
- Sure.
- She's traveling all the time,
but just never seems to go by
one of the biggest states
in America.
- Right.
- The not-video-chatting thing
is just like...
[goofy humming]
Right?
- Well, let's call Nique
and find out a little bit more
about this unique situation.
- [laughing]
Wow.
- Hi.
both: Hey!
- How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
- I like the hair.
- Thank you.
- I'm Elle, nice to meet you.
- Oh, sorry.
Let me introduce you.
This is Elle King.
- Oh!
[gasps]
- [laughing]
- So you're in Orange, Texas?
- Yes.
It's a very small town.
- And, uh, are you in school?
Are you working?
- I plan on actually going
to college in California,
to go to CalArts
for animation.
- Whoa.
- Oh, awesome.
- Yeah.
- And your email name
is Nique-Nique.
- My name is Geranique,
but I do prefer
to go by Nique.
- "Nique."
- But one "Nique" or two?
- I prefer one,
but two sounded cuter.
- Like, Nique-Nique...
- Nique-Nique.
- Who's there?
- So dumb.
- Alice.
Alice, who?
I don't know,
we gotta find out!
[stammering]
That's what we're doing.
- Okay, so guys--uh,
you guys met on Tumblr?
- Yeah.
- And so Alice,
like, reached out to you, or--
I just--I'm new to Tumblr.
- Basically, it's a blog,
but you can, like,
write a character.
It really does help a lot,
'cause as, like, a character,
you grow, like, as a person.
- Yeah.
- And I posted this thing
called a starter call,
where, like, you like the post
and write something,
and they can reply back.
And she liked it,
so I just contacted her
to be like, "Oh,
what's your character like?"
- So you were--
you were Tumbling...
- Tumbling together.
- Together.
- The official term
is "roleplaying."
- Right.
- Okay.
- But, like, over time
we started going off
of our characters.
Started talking more
about ourselves.
And Alice is just very cool.
Like, we both like
the same stuff.
We both like anime,
we both like comics, gaming.
- Do you guys get, like,
lovey-dovey?
I mean, how--
- Ask her.
- Do you guys have phone sex?
[all laughing]
I just--I know, I know, I know,
but we gotta--we gotta know.
- I mean, there's been
some exchange of pictures.
- Oh.
- You send her pictures?
- And she sends me some back.
- Like, sexy--sexy photos?
- Mm-hmm.
- So then that brings us
to the next question,
which is, then why haven't you
been able to video chat?
- Ugh, I have been, like,
trying to ask.
She's like, "Oh, no,
I just don't feel like
doing it right now."
Or, like,
"Oh, I'll do it later."
She never, like,
calls me back.
both: Hmm.
- Okay, so where are you
in terms of, like,
your relationship?
Do you feel like you're dating?
Is she your girlfriend?
- The thing about that, like--
I think I mentioned it
in the email,
but I'm actually in an
open relationship right now.
In a polyamorous relationship.
- Uh, you did not mention that
in the email.
- Oh, okay.
- With a significant other
named Pryncess.
- Wow.
- Okay, so hold on a second.
So you have a--
an in-person, physical...
- Great.
- Significant other?
- Yes.
- And does Pryncess know
about Alice, and what does she
think about it?
- Yes.
Pryncess is well aware
of this,
and Pryncess is
very supporting
of the relationship
with Alice.
- So Pryncess is, like,
on board and--
and just wants you
to figure out
who this person is.
- Yes.
- Now, does--does Alice know
about Pryncess?
- Yes, Alice does.
- And you've been
totally honest with her.
She knows
your open relationship,
and she's cool with that.
We want to help,
not just because it's
an interesting mystery
about Alice, but you're in such
an interesting situation.
I want to meet Pryncess...
- Yeah.
- I want to meet you.
- I want to meet everybody.
- Everybody.
- I'm in, I'm hooked.
- Actually, do you mind
coming down to Houston?
'Cause I'm staying with
a family friend right now.
- No, that's fine.
We'll meet you there.
- Okay, thank you.
I'll see you guys later.
all: Bye.
- See ya!
- Let's go to Houston.
- Yeah.
- Okay?
- All right.
- ♪ I wanna be low ♪
♪ I wanna be low ♪
- All right, Houston.
- It's beautiful.
♪ ♪
I wanna know if she's, like,
really in love
with this person.
- Obviously you talk to someone
for a year--
- You get invested.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Bing-bong ♪
Oh, what's up?
How are you?
- Hi!
- Nice to meet you.
both: Hi!
- So nice to meet you.
- You can come in.
- Wow, is this one
of your drawings?
- Ooh.
- Yeah.
It's just mostly,
like, sketches.
- Oh, wow!
- Ooh, whoa.
Wow.
- Oh, you're really
a talented artist.
- Thank you.
- Well, this is cool.
Um, and this is obviously
a big part of your life,
and Alice.
- Yeah.
- Let's go back now,
just kind of go over
how you met.
- The year I met Alice
was a very hard year.
That was the year
Hurricane Harvey hit Texas.
Yeah, and I had lost
my entire house.
- Oh.
- And it really
messed up everything,
'cause I dropped out
of high school
'cause I had
really bad anxiety,
and I was really stressed
over that.
And I told Alice, I'm like,
"I kinda feel useless
"'cause I don't have
my high school degree.
I feel like I'm stupid."
She's like, "No, you're not.
You were dealing with stress.
"Everyone goes through stress.
You're not thinking
when you have that."
It eventually got
the worst of me in January.
I was home alone and...
- Wow.
- And I called 911 immediately
'cause I was scared.
They were like, "We have
to take you to a hospital
so you can get checked out."
And they were like,
"You're only allowed
to have one phone call."
This was when
I was dating Pryncess,
and I called Alice instead.
- Wow.
- You chose Alice.
- Yeah.
With Alice, I can just
tell her anything.
And I was crying.
I'm like,
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
She's like,
"It's gonna be okay.
It's gonna get better."
- So Alice has really
been there for you.
- Yeah.
The moment before she hung up,
she told me she loved me.
- Aww.
- Wow.
- And then after that,
she told me she loved me
multiple times.
- And do you feel that love...
- Yes, definitely.
- In return?
Do you love her?
- Yes.
- So in--in, like,
a perfect scenario,
would you go to LA and be
in a relationship with Alice?
- Yes, 'cause I want to go
down there for school anyway.
- That's right,
check out CalArts.
- Yeah.
- What about Pryncess?
- Pryncess already said
that they'll be there for me
and support me, like,
no matter what.
- What does Pryncess think
about Alice,
considering
the circumstances and--
- Like, Pryncess was like,
"Well, if someone doesn't want
to video chat with me,
I would just stop talking
to them in general,"
and I'm like, "Well, I'm not
that type of person,"
and they understand that.
- Who's "they"?
Pryncess?
- Pryncess, they--they use
them/they pronouns.
- Got it, yeah.
- Oh.
- Yeah, 'cause they're
genderfluid.
- Okay, so this could
essentially open a door,
or it could close something
and let you move on.
- Yes, exactly.
- I am very curious about
what Alice looks like.
- Oh, yeah, let me show
a picture.
Do you want me to just show,
like, her Facebook page?
- Sure.
- Oh, [bleep].
She blocked me.
- What?
- Wait, Alice?
- Yes.
- Wait, did you tell her
you were writing in
to the show?
- Yeah.
- Oh.
- What about her Instagram?
- I haven't checked her
on her Instagram yet.
I'm not blocked there.
I'm not blocked--
- You can see her Instagram?
Here, let's see.
- She's really pretty.
- Yeah.
- But you're blocked
on Facebook.
Why would that have happened?
- I don't know.
- All right, well, we got
our work cut out for us.
We'll do some research.
Whatever happens,
we're with you.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- Yeah.
- Have a good night.
- Bye.
- Bye!Well...
- We got quite a story
on our hands.
- Yeah.
- I mean, clearly,
something's up with Alice.
- But why do you think
she blocked her?
- She knows we're here,
so she's freaking out.
- I'm worried, you know?
I mean, she went through
everything with the hurricane
and--and going through
so much anxiety.
There's really only so much
that a person can take.
[dramatic music]
- Here we are, day two.
- Day two.
This is what
I'm really here for.
I like to think of myself
as, like, a cyber hacker.
- Ah.
- 'Cause I've found
some bad stuff that way.
- This is where your--your
crazy-ex-girlfriend skills...
- Mm-hmm.
- Really come in.
- Yep.
♪ ♪
- All right.
[groaning]
- [sighs]
- Ready?
- Ready.
- All right, so Nique has
a significant other
named Pryncess.
They are in
a polyamorous relationship.
And Nique also is in love
with Alice.
- Right.
- But Nique's still not sure,
is she real?
- Is she?
- Let's find out.
All right, we got an email
from Nique.
"Alice's Information."
We got her phone number,
Facebook,
Tumblr page, Instagram,
and that's it.
Thanks.
- Okay, I wanna see her social.
Just because she blocked Nique
doesn't mean that we can't view
her Facebook.
- That's true.
All right, so this is
her Facebook page.
both: Okay.
- "Tattooed model,
fine artist,
located in OC, L.A."
Wait, that's it?
Or maybe she's like super--
uber private.
- Right, maybe it's all
buttoned up.
This is great.
I'm just gonna sit here
and let you...
- Yeah.
- Look, just take it.
Just--just do it.
- I'm just excited.
- I'm just gonna be
sitting here sipping my tea.
- [laughs]
Let's see, posts.
"Our bracelets.
Mine broke this weekend."
We'll have to go
back out for more."
- Ooh, who is that?
- Madi [bleep].
- Sounds like a friend.
- "12 hours ago."
- Whoa, recently.
All right, let's check her out.
both: Okay.
- Where does she live?
- Lives in Orange, California.
- Okay, signs point to Orange.
- Do we want to message Madi?
- Okay.
- Here, you wanna
come up with something?
- [gasps]What?
- Yeah.
- "Hey, Madi.
This is Nev and Elle."
Huh?
- Yeah.
- "We're doing an episode
that involves
"your friend Alice.
Could you give us a call?
We could really use your help.
Thanks."
- Wow, you really
know your stuff.
You did your homework.
- Long-time listener,
first-time caller.
[both laughing]
- So we reached out to Madi--
- I would like to see
Alice's Instagram.
It seems like she's
much more active
on her Instagram.
- Okay, let's see.
So we can see comments.
- Are there any photos
that she's been tagged in?
- Yeah.
Wow, those are new pics.
- And those are her tattoos.
Risqué.
- So, I mean, I don't know.
It feels like this is her.
Feels pretty legit.
- Yeah.
- All right, let's search
for her phone number.
[suspenseful music]
Hmm.
- Oh.
- No name.
- Okay, but Santa Ana.
That's OC.
- True.
That's all.
There's no address or anything.
I think this is a dead end.
[phone ringing]
- [gasps]
Who is it?
- Hello?
- Madi, hey.
Thanks for getting back to us.
We're trying to find out
everything we can
about your friend Alice.
Can you just tell us
how you know Alice?
- Do you still live
in Orange County?
- And--and does Alice also?
- Got it.
- And is that because--
does she travel a lot?
- Okay.
And Alice dates women, right?
- Okay.
All right,
so we have
a phone number for Alice.
Can you just confirm
whether that is or isn't
the same phone number
you have for Alice?
- 714-[bleep].
- Oh, that's not the number
that you have!
- What?
- Whoa.
You--you really, like,
pulled a "Maury" on me, there.
- But do you know
if your number is current?
Like, you've talked to her
with that number
pretty recently, or...?
- Wow.
In your experience with Alice,
has there ever been anyone
who's, like,
pretended to be her,
or has she ever, like,
struggled with fake accounts
or, like, angry ex's?
- So it's not impossible
that someone could be using
one of her accounts
and pretending to be her?
- Huh, interesting.
All right, well,
thank you so much.
- Thank you.
- Bye.
So wait a second.
- Wait, okay--
- So Alice is the girl
in the pictures.
She lives in Orange County,
she goes up to LA.
She travels, she models,
she does all the things...
- But that's not her number.
- Not her number.
But we know Alice is real.
- Yeah.
But is Nique talking to Alice?
- Right.
I don't think so.
- What does your gut tell you?
- I think it could be
a friend of Alice.
- Hmm.
- Someone who knows details
about her life,
who had access to an account
or something.
- [gasps]
- This could get really ugly.
[sinister music]
[phone line ringing]
- [indistinct]
both: Hey, Nique!
- Where you at right now?
- Great!
- We'd love to head over.
- Great.
- Awesome, see you soon.
- Hi!
both: Hey!
- Hi, hi.
- I'm Elle.
- I'm Pryncess.
- How are you?
- I'm good.
- Shall we?
[groans]
- Pryncess, it's so nice
to meet you.
- Thank you, it's nice
to meet you, too.
- So what--what do you think
of all this?
- Um, I--I really find it
just a little suspicious,
and just weird, and...
For someone you've been
talking to
for over a year,
and they don't...
video call you or anything.
It's very scary 'cause...
- Not pretty to us, especially.
- Yeah, it's just unkind
for genderfluid people
like myself.
- Queer.
- Yes, LGBT.
It can be just dangerous.
- Yeah.
If you don't mind me asking,
do you have
other relationships?
- I have other partners, yes.
I have, um, like,
friends with benefits,
but no, like, girlfriend
or boyfriend.
- How do you feel, just,
about the whole situation
with Alice?
Is there any jealousy?
- I'm not really
a jealous person,
so nothing really
bothers me that much
unless they're bothering her.
Then I'll get mad.
[laughs]
- It's nice to see
that you guys
are so supportive
of each other.
We obviously did some research.
We tried to figure out what's
going on with this girl, Alice.
- Yeah.
- So do you want to maybe talk
without Pryncess
and discuss this
a little bit more?
- Yeah.
- All right.
Lovely to meet you.
- You, too.
- Bye.
- All right, let's head over.
All right.
Pryncess is great.
- Yeah.
- There's obviously something
that's drawing you to Alice.
She's been, like,
a really steady,
reliable source for a year.
She's even someone
who you called
after you hurt yourself,
but, like, I'm concerned.
She's, like, pulling away.
- I--I'm terrified.
I really wouldn't know
what to do with myself
if I lost her.
[tense music]
- All right, let's see
if we can make
some sense out of all of this.
- Okay.
- So, went to her
Facebook page,
and the only comment in--
in any of this
is from this girl, Madi,
so we were like,
"Okay, this girl Madi
seems to be a friend."
- We sent a message to Madi.
- Then we went
to her Instagram.
Wait a second.
Wait, wait, wait.
We were just looking
at this Instagram earlier,
and now it's not loading.
Did she just take
this Instagram down?
- Let's check.
- Since, like, earlier?
- Let me see.
Oh, she did.
Her messages aren't
in my inbox anymore.
- Whoa.
- [bleep]
- So what--now all of a sudden
that Instagram's gone.
She deleted her account.
- What?
- Weird.
All right, well,
that's messed up.
- Yeah.
- Why would she just delete
all of her accounts
all of a sudden?
- I don't know.
- Well, check this out:
We got a phone call...
- Oh.
- From Madi.
- High school friend.
She did say that Alice
was the person
in the photographs
on the Facebook and everything,
and then we asked her
if she could verify
the phone number that we have,
and, uh, she basically said
that that wasn't her number.
When we asked her
when was the last time
she'd spoken to her,
just in case, you know--
she may have changed
her number--
but she said that she'd
spoken to her
probably about a week ago.
- Oh, dang.
- So that's concerning.
- Yeah.
- So, yeah.
So Madi has
a different number...
- Oh.
- For Alice than you have.
[melancholy music]
- ♪ Tell me I'm the love
of your life ♪
♪ Just for a night ♪
- This is...
[sighs]
- ♪ Even if you don't
feel it ♪
♪ ♪
- Just a lot to take in
right now.
- ♪ Tell me I'm the love
of your life ♪
♪ Just for the night ♪
- Okay.
- ♪ Even if
you don't mean it ♪
- So there's a couple things
that could be going on here.
The other thing Madi said
is that Alice has had
a lot of different
social media profiles,
some of which have been hacked.
So it's possible
that someone got access
to one of her accounts.
Maybe someone else has been
using her profile
pretending to be her,
and Alice is real,
it's just not
who you're talking to.
- Oh, that's scary.
I just feel...
lied to, and everything
I've told this person,
and it just feels like
I don't matter to them
in their eyes, like I'm just
something they can play with,
and that really hurts
my feelings.
[sniffs]
♪ ♪
[melancholy music]
♪ ♪
- You know, it doesn't change
the fact that whoever
you're talking to
has been there.
- Yeah.
- Um, I don't think they've
done it to--to hurt you.
- Yeah.
- But something's going on.
Are you willing to put
your emotional state
even more on the line
for this person
who's clearly not interested,
at least right now,
in, like, being real with you?
- I want to do this.
I need to do this for me,
not anyone else.
I need to do this for me.
- I think you should
call Alice.
- All right,
let's give her a call.
[phone line ringing]
- Hey, uh, is this Alice?
- Hey, Alice--
- Sorry?
- Oh, it's, uh--it's Nev
from the, uh, show "Catfish."
I'm here with Nique,
and also my friend Elle,
who's--who's helping me out,
and we were just
talking about you,
uh, so I thought
I'd give you a call.
How you doing?
[phone line beeps]
- Wow.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
- [soft weeping]
♪ ♪
I don't know why she doesn't
want to see me.
I can understand, like,
you're anxious about this.
I am, too.
I'm just stressing
and worrying about this.
I haven't been able to sleep,
and I just wanted
to see her so badly.
Why is she acting like this?
I just wanna be able
to hug her
and be able
to finally see her.
[sniffling]
- It sounds to me
that it's not that she doesn't
want to see you,
she sounds like she's--
it sounds like
she's hiding something
she doesn't want
to be honest about.
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- Is that pushing it
to call back?
- Or--or maybe just text.
Here, you wanna--
- Yeah.
- Has she ever had
that tone with you?
Like, where she got
really upset?
- That's the first time
I've really heard her,
like, upset.
- "Alice, sorry if I made you
uncomfortable.
"I'm just trying to help Nique.
"You're really importantto her.
"We totally understand
"and respect your feelingson this.
"We'd love to talk
if you have a minute.
We're here."
- So, look, something's
going on with Alice,
or whoever it is
that you're talking to.
You've been understanding
and patient with her.
You've expressed
many times to her
that you'd like to see her
and it's hurting you.
So here's what I'm thinking:
forget Alice for a moment.
Let's talk about you.
Why don't we take you to LA?
- [laughs]
I've never been
on a plane before.
- Never been on a plane.
- [laughs]
- Let's go to LA...
- Okay.
- Not for Alice.
Let's go for you.
- Okay.
- If we don't hear from Alice
and she disappears,
we go visit CalArts.
- [gasps]
Really?
- Yeah!
If we do hear from Alice
and she has a change of heart,
we're in LA...
- Yeah.
- And we can go meet her.
- I've never been out
of Texas before.
- Never left Texas?
- What?
- So let's plan
on leaving in the morning.
We'll go to LA
and we'll see what happens.
- Yeah.
I mean, I'm still anxious
and scared, but...
I'm all right.
- Yeah.
- Thank you.
- You okay?
- Yeah.
- We'll see you tomorrow.
We're gonna go to California.
- Tomorrow morning, whoo!
Tomorrow morning.
- Going back to Cali.
[tense music]
- [sighs]
You think she's okay?
- [sighs]
Good news is,
she has Pryncess,
but my concern is that
if we do meet Alice...
- Yeah.
- It's not gonna be good
for Nique.
I don't get the sense
that there's a version
of this working out
where Nique and Alice ride off
into the sunset together.
- I don't know
how this is gonna turn out.
- Okay, it's 5:00
in the morning.
I'm ready to go
to the airport.
I have not heard anything
from Alice yet.
Life doesn't wait,
so if you wanna get something,
you gotta go for it,
so we're just gonna have
to wing it.
There she is.
Morning.
- Hi!
- Ooh, she's warming
by the fire, here.
Why don't you get
a little closer?
Warm them buns.
- I'll toast it.
- There you go.
Hey!
- Good morning!
- You made it.
How you feeling?
- Still anxious and scared,
but you know,
if she decides to meet up,
I'm just ready for answers.
- Love it or leave it.
- Yeah.
- I take it you have not
heard from Alice.
- I have not.
- You wanna craft a text?
Say it as me,
but just say, like,
"Hey, wanted to let you know
I'm bringing Nique
to California."
- I said, "Hey, I wanted
you to know
"that we're bringing Nique
to California.
"We're doing this for her.
"If you have a change of heart
and you want to meet,
just let us know."
- ♪ There's all these people ♪
All right.
Let's do it.
- ♪ But I just want
to be alone ♪
- Chug, chug, chug.
- Whoo!
- [growls]
- ♪ There's all these people ♪
♪ I just wanna be alone
with you ♪
- ♪ I should have told you ♪
- Still no word from Alice.
You ready to go to LA?
- I'm ready.
- ♪ I should have told you ♪
♪ There's nowhere
to go from here ♪
- All right, we made it.
I'm gonna go see
if we got any--
oh, oh, we got it.
We got it.
- No.
- Okay.
"Hey, this is really hard
for me,
"but I understand that you're
just trying to help Nique,
"and I don't want to hurt her.
So if you come down,
I'll meet you."
Whoa.
All right, it worked.
The plan worked.
That's amazing.
- This is gonna be
something good.
- Yeah.
- "Ready to meet
in a couple hours."
Delivered.
- Yeah.
- Wow.
Talk about a smooth landing.
- [laughing]
♪ ♪
- Welcome to
"Los An-gelees."
Check it out.
We got a--it's an address.
All right, well, cool.
All right, so that--
that worked great.
- Amazing.
- I guess once we get
our stuff ready,
we can just head
right over there.
- I'm nervous.
♪ ♪
- All right, a bit of a drive,
but that's good.
You'll get to see LA.
- LA, yeah!
You nervous?
- Scared and nervous.
- "Scurvous."
- Scurvous.
I just want answers.
[suspenseful music]
- All right, pretty close.
♪ ♪
Six...
- There it is.
- Wait, this one?
- Yeah.
- Nice little house.
- It's her place.
Okay.
All right.
- Let's go.
- Let's do it.
[tense music]
Okay.
- You guys wanna hang here?
♪ ♪
[knocking on door]
♪ ♪
[crows calling]
♪ ♪
both: Hi.
- I'm Nev.
[tense music]
[knocking on door]
♪ ♪
- Hello.
Hi.
- Hi.
- I'm Nev.
- I'm very nervous.
- That's all right.
- [laughs]
She's out there?
[laughing]
- She's out here.
Say hello.
- Okay.
♪ ♪
Hi.
- Hey.
- How are you?
- You're so pretty.
[both laughing]
[indistinct chatter, laughter]
- How are you?
- I'm...
a little anxious and nervous,
but I'm better now.
- Absolutely also the samefor me.
[laughing]
- Okay, well...
- [laughs]
Hi.
- Yeah, this is Elle.
- Hi.
- I'm Alice.
- And I'm Nev.
- Nice to meet you again.
both: Nice to meet you.
- We're glad to be here,
but also, I think, curious
and somewhat confused.
- I'm also a little confused,
and, like, I didn't want
to do this
because I was concerned
that she called you
in the first place,
'cause I was like,
when you talk to somebody
and then they don't trust
who you are,
it made me feel anxious.
- I--I get that.
It wasn't that
I didn't trust you, but...
- You needed
to make sure that...
- Yeah, you're real
before I gave you
all of my heart.
- It just, like, hurt
my feelings a little bit.
- Okay, okay.
Um...[laughs]
I'm just gonna jump in.
So then where does it come in
that you aren't able
to video chat?
- I just didn't think
there was that much
of a lack of faith in me.
I didn't think
that it was like,
she needed to verify
who I was over FaceTime.
I thought she just wanted to.
So it was low urgency for me,
you know what I mean?
When I'm talking to a person,
I would really just rather talk
instead of focusing
on how I look.
- I completely understand.
I'm not trying to blame you.
I understand your anxiety
over all of this.
- But just, like,
one little video or something?
- Yeah, I--
- I'm not trying to defend her
on this side,
but I kind of do understand,
'cause we live
in completely different
time zones.
- You guys--
- Two hours.
- Yeah, two hours.
- I mean, I--I don't know,
I've just never been--
like, we don't even talk
on the phone.
- Why did you block her
on Facebook?
- I got incredibly anxious
about this whole thing.
Like, I have my own anxieties
as well.
- Yeah, sure.
- And I just felt like
all of this
didn't mean as much
because of the fact
that she didn't trust
who I was.
- We spoke
to your friend Madi...
- Mm-hmm, yeah.
- And asked her
if the phone number
that Nique has for you
is the same number
she has for you,
and she said it's not.
- Yeah, I have
two phone numbers.
So one for, like, the people
that I know in real life
and one for the people
that I meet on roleplay.
It helps me
keep things organized.
- Okay, well,
I have other questions,
but at the same time,
I, like, don't want
to frontload this.
You guys just met.
both: Yeah.
- So maybe we should just,
like, kind of check in.
So if you guys could go talk,
we could talk just for a minute
and just kind of, like,
go over stuff.
- Got you.
- Cool.
So I'll go sit with you
over here.
♪ ♪
- Okay.
How do you feel?
- A lot better.
- You feel a lot better?
- Yeah.
I'm kind of, like,
mostly satisfied
with the--the answers she had
to the questions,
'cause I kind of do understand
most of them.
- Yeah, but I just--can I be
totally honest with you?
- Yeah.
- It just feels [bleep] weird.
Yeah, it's exciting.
She's her, she's real,
she's nice, you know?
But...
at the same time, I mean,
you wrote to the show
because there's a whole year
where she's spent
kind of avoiding
being real with you,
and now that we're here,
it's just like,
"Oh, yeah, yeah, it's just
water under the bridge.
"None--never happened,
never happened,
never happened."
I'm sensing something
that's not genuine.
♪ ♪
- What do you think?
- Me?[laughs]
It's okay.
It's, um--she's really sweet.
I just, I'm like...
also very nervous, you know?
- What has been your
impression of...
this relationship?
- I--I love her,
I think she's, like--
we--I used to be
romantically interested in her
and we used to flirt a lot,
and then I stopped
feeling that way,
and without
addressing it, really.
I just kind of thought
it was mutual
because of her relationship
with Pryncess and everything.
- Well, at least
from what Nique told us,
she has very strong feelings
for you.
- Yeah.
When I was saying
I don't feel like TV's
the best place for this,
I meant it's probably not
the best place
for me to tell her
that, like, I don't have
romantic feelings.
- Right.
I just think
it'd be helpful for her
if you were very clear.
- Remember,
this whole thing, Nique?
This is for you.
This is your time
to question,
what were her intentions?
- There are still some things
that I want and need to know.
- Yeah.
Should I go ask her
to talk to you?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
Just a couple questions
she wanted to ask you.
Do you want to go
talk to her?
- Yeah.
Yeah, that would be fine.
♪ ♪
Can I come in?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- What'd you guys talk about?
- She was attracted,
physically,
to Nique at the beginning,
but then she felt like
it just sort of
turned into a friendship.
The main reason she didn't want
to come on the show
is 'cause she didn't want
to have tell Nique in--
to her face, like,
"Hey, I'm not into you."
♪ ♪
- I've been
asking you constantly
to come down to Texas,
but you denying each time
made me feel like
you didn't want to see me.
- I definitely wanted
to see you.
It's just because of your
relationship with Pryncess,
I thought it wouldn't hurt
your feelings
if I didn't make it
down to Texas.
I didn't know you were
actively seeking
other romantic,
polyamorous relationships.
I just didn't think that
it was as big
of an issue as it was.
I should have listened
to what you were saying
and actually taken...
what you were saying to heart.
- I do want to eventually come
to California for school.
If you're still in the area,
would you want to be in
an actual relationship with me?
♪ ♪
- I don't think that's
what I'm looking for.
♪ ♪
But, you know,
there's so much possible
in--in a few years.
You know, you're not gonna
come down for a while, so--
- Yeah.
- [laughs]
- That makes me feel
a little bit better.
There's still some time left.
♪ ♪
- ♪ It's safe to say ♪
♪ It's been a hard year ♪
♪ ♪
- ♪ If I count the ways ♪
- How'd it go?
- We did get a lot
of things cleared up.
Possibly in the future,
if I'm able
to come down to California,
it is a possibility
for a romantic relationship.
- Really?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Though it's not easy ♪
- Well, um, do you want
to just leave it
for the moment,
and we can come back--
- Later or tomorrow.
- Yep.
- Yeah.
- Okay, bye.
- ♪ You let the light in ♪
- I feel like today
did not go as well
as it could have.
A lot of what I said
was being misinterpreted,
and I didn't really
correct her
because I didn't want
to embarrass her.
In retrospect, I should have
made things clearer.
Hopefully,
it'll be better tomorrow.
- Something kind of
felt off yesterday.
- You think that some of it
is Alice
trying to not hurt
Nique's feelings?
I think the truth is that
she's not into her,
but I'm worried
Nique's not picking up on that.
- I know.
- So what do we do?
- Let's give Alice a call.
[phone line ringing]
- Oh.
- Hello?
- Hey, Alice.
This is Elle and Nev.
How you feeling today?
- Yeah, I--I totally
understand that.
- All right, so we're gonna go
pick up Nique
and bring her over to you.
- See you soon.
- All right, let's get going.
[suspenseful music]
- I see her.
- Oh, yeah.
- [clears throat]
- Good morning!
- How you feeling?
- Feeling better.
Yeah.
This is, like, possibly, like,
the best and only outcome.
'Cause I know right now
she's not ready
for a relationship,
but things could happen
in the future.
- All right.
You ready to do this?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
Do I--do I knock?
[knocking on door]
- Hello.
- Hi.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- What's up?
- Nothing much.
What's up with you?
- Hi.
both: Hi.
- I'm a toucher.
- [laughing] I am, too.
- All right.
How's everyone feeling?
- Good, actually.
- Good.
- I do think there's room
for, like,
additional communication today.
- Mm-hmm.
- I'll start.
- All right, go ahead.
- Um, so I was thinking
about it a lot yesterday,
and I feel like a lot
of the things that I was saying
were being misinterpreted
and misunderstood.
I thought that I had made it
very clear
that I didn't want
to pursue a relationship,
and I wanted to remain friends,
but when you left the car,
you told them that I had said
in--in the future,
there would be a chance.
[tense music]
- I probably didn't like,
state it right,
but that's kind of, like,
what I got the feeling.
That, like, within a few years
if our feelings do change
and we do become, like,
more closer.
Like, not right now.
I understand
that you don't want
a relationship right now,
but, like, in the future
it could be like
a 25% possibility.
- So I really don't have
an interest
in a romantic relationship
with you.
I tried to make it sound better
in the car,
and I should have been
more blunt,
but when you asked that,
I felt really pressured
to be like, "Uh, you know,
I guess...."
- You should have been blunt.
I don't understand.
- I was just worried about...
your--your mental health...
and I didn't want it
to hurt you.
[melancholy music]
- Can I ask you a question?
- Mm-hmm.
- The night that you got
the call from the ambulance,
how did you feel
when you got that call?
- I was pretty,
like, devastated,
because I couldn't do anything
from so far away,
and I'd also, you know...
I mean, I've had friends
who've, you know,
passed from that kind of thing
and, like, I--
it sucks not being able
to, like,
be there all the way.
It--it's just hard,
and I feel like
I've just been trying
to preserve, um, her emotions
for a long time to make sure
that I didn't lose her,
you know?
- I understand that.
I knew there was some things
that were my fault.
I assumed stuff,
and I apologize for that.
- Well, that's good.
I apologize
for not being
very communicative.
- Yeah.
- Well, I think that
now that you have spoken
your piece and your mind,
I think that
that probably will leave room
for an easier
and more clear friendship,
without any, like,
foggy lines being drawn.
- Yeah, at the end of it,
it's gonna be a good change.
- Yeah.
- Nice place to leave itfor now.
both: Mm-hmm.
- All right, so why don't we
let you guys hang out?
- All right, cool.
- ♪ To say ♪
♪ Once uphill ♪
- I'm sorry that I upset you,
but you got Pryncess,
which is good.
- Yeah.
- You know?
- This is gonna be good for us.
Like, I feel like
our friendship
is gonna be stronger
after this, you know?
- Yeah, and I won't have
any assumptions
like I used to have.
both: Yeah.
- Which is great.
- Yeah.
- ♪ My own life,
my own life ♪
[phone line ringing]
- Hey!
both: Whoa!
- Shaved your head!
- Yeah!
- Cool!
- Thank you.
- So what's up?
How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
I mean,
I'm still talking
to Alice and stuff.
- Awesome!
- I was a little sad
at first, thinking like,
"Oh, this isn't, like,
what I thought it was,"
but now I'm realizing
I would rather, like,
have her as a--just a friend
than, like, not even, like,
talk to her at all.
- What did Pryncess think
about everything?
- We're--we're closer
than, like, ever before,
'cause they think this was
a good experience, too.
- All right.
I mean, for sure.
- Positive vibes.
- Positive vibes.
- Positive vibes.
- Bye, Nique.
- Bye.
- Hi.
both: Hey!
- And how are things
with you and Nique?
- They're really good,
actually.
They're a lot better
than before, I think,
because there's this trust
that's been established.
- Nice.
- I'm glad to hear
that you guys
have still stayed friends,
because I think that
you've been
a really warm person
in her life.
- Yeah.
- I think in the end,
everybody got what they needed.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I agree.
- All right, bye, Alice.
- All right, bye.
- Devon is really
into this guy, James.
You're on the doorstep
of what could be
a very serious relationship.
- I just need your help
to knock on the door.
- James is asking you
to come see him.
Is this some type of trap?
This is the spot.
- How long do we stand around?
- Is this all for nothing?
1214
00:41:38.
with Alice,
but Nique's still not sure--
is she real?
- Is she?
- [bleep]
She blocked me.
both: What?
- Alice?
- Yes.
- Whoa.
I mean, clearly something's up
with Alice.
[phone line beeping]
- There's really only so much
that a person can take.
[knocking on door]
- Whoa.
[dramatic musical sting]
Anybody feel like playing
Tic-tac-toe?
both: No.
- No?
I gotta find someone
to play Tic-tac-toe with.
Let's see if there's anyone
in the lobby
I can play with, here.
Busy?
Are you--
he's busy.
All right.
Oh, wait a second.
I see someone over here.
Hey!
- Hi!
- Hey, do you have a minute?
- Yeah.
- I wanted to play a game.
Are you familiar
with "X's and O's"?
- Yeah!
[laughing]
- Elle King is a real-deal,
international, mega popstar.
- ♪ I'm a fire ♪
♪ Just a spark
under your halo ♪
- Her hit single
"Ex's & Oh's"
shot to the top of the charts,
earning her two
Grammy nominations.
- ♪ Oh ♪
♪ Shame, shame,
shame, shame ♪
- Since there, her insane
singer/songwriter skills
have won her a CMA award
and an electrified fan base
that's already devouring
her second studio album.
- ♪ I can make you shake ♪
♪ Rattle your bones ♪
- Without further ado,
please welcome Elle King.
Whoo!
- [laughing]
Is it bad to clap for yourself?
- No, I think that's great.
- I'm just so excited
to be here!
Okay.
- So how does someone
like you...
- Yeah.
- Who is killing it
in the music industry
end up interested
in the show
and wanting to be a part of it?
- Uh, well I saw
the documentary.
I've watched the show
since the beginning
and I've seen
the whole thing unfold.
I also, like--I have been,
like, crazy ex-girlfriend.
I can hack into anything.
I don't know if I should
say that, but it's--
- So you feel like you have
a skill set you--
- I just want to put it
to good use.
I just--I'm here to help.
- All right.
We got an email from...
- "Nique-Nique."
- "Nique-Nique"?
Is that how we say that?
- Yeah.
- All right, here we go:
"Dear Nev and awesome
new co-host..."
- ♪ Yeah ♪
- That is actually
what it says.
It says, "Dear Nev
and awesome new co-host.
"My name is Nique.
- "I am 19,
and I was born and raised
in a small conservative town
called Orange, Texas."
- ♪ We can go out
on a Tuesday ♪
- "For most of my life,
I felt like I did not belong.
"My sanctuary became
the internet,
"where I found people
who shared my interests in art
and accepted me for who I am."
- Great.
- Yeah.
- ♪ Baby, you're
my favorite thing ♪
- "A year ago, I posted
a role-playing scenario..."
- Hey, all right.
- "On Tumblr.
"I created
a fictional character,
and I wanted someone to explore
the world I'd imagined."
- ♪ Baby, you're
my favorite thing ♪
- "One day, I received
a response from Alice,
"who had created a character
that was the entire universe."
- The character
is the universe.
- Whoa.
"It blew my mind,
and I responded right away."
- [mimics explosion]
- Wow.
[woman vocalizing]
"After a few weeks, we started
talking as ourselves,
"and it's not an exaggeration
to say that Alice became
one of the biggest parts
of my life."
- ♪ Baby, you're
my favorite thing ♪
- "She gets me,
she makes me feel loved,
she makes me feel good
about who I am."
- Aww.
- "While Alice makes me feel
"like I'm beautiful,
Alice is beautiful,
"so beautiful
that she's a model,
and seems to make
a living from it."
- Uh-oh.
- All right.
People make a living
from modeling.
- Yeah, sure.
- "The thing is,
"Alice refuses
to video chat with me,
"no matter how many times
I try to make it happen.
"She also travels all the time,
"taking road trips
with her friends,
"but she won't come visit me
in Texas.
I really hope
that you'll help me."
- ♪ Favorite thing ♪
- "Nique."
- Okay, a couple
red flags, right?
- Sure.
- She's traveling all the time,
but just never seems to go by
one of the biggest states
in America.
- Right.
- The not-video-chatting thing
is just like...
[goofy humming]
Right?
- Well, let's call Nique
and find out a little bit more
about this unique situation.
- [laughing]
Wow.
- Hi.
both: Hey!
- How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
- I like the hair.
- Thank you.
- I'm Elle, nice to meet you.
- Oh, sorry.
Let me introduce you.
This is Elle King.
- Oh!
[gasps]
- [laughing]
- So you're in Orange, Texas?
- Yes.
It's a very small town.
- And, uh, are you in school?
Are you working?
- I plan on actually going
to college in California,
to go to CalArts
for animation.
- Whoa.
- Oh, awesome.
- Yeah.
- And your email name
is Nique-Nique.
- My name is Geranique,
but I do prefer
to go by Nique.
- "Nique."
- But one "Nique" or two?
- I prefer one,
but two sounded cuter.
- Like, Nique-Nique...
- Nique-Nique.
- Who's there?
- So dumb.
- Alice.
Alice, who?
I don't know,
we gotta find out!
[stammering]
That's what we're doing.
- Okay, so guys--uh,
you guys met on Tumblr?
- Yeah.
- And so Alice,
like, reached out to you, or--
I just--I'm new to Tumblr.
- Basically, it's a blog,
but you can, like,
write a character.
It really does help a lot,
'cause as, like, a character,
you grow, like, as a person.
- Yeah.
- And I posted this thing
called a starter call,
where, like, you like the post
and write something,
and they can reply back.
And she liked it,
so I just contacted her
to be like, "Oh,
what's your character like?"
- So you were--
you were Tumbling...
- Tumbling together.
- Together.
- The official term
is "roleplaying."
- Right.
- Okay.
- But, like, over time
we started going off
of our characters.
Started talking more
about ourselves.
And Alice is just very cool.
Like, we both like
the same stuff.
We both like anime,
we both like comics, gaming.
- Do you guys get, like,
lovey-dovey?
I mean, how--
- Ask her.
- Do you guys have phone sex?
[all laughing]
I just--I know, I know, I know,
but we gotta--we gotta know.
- I mean, there's been
some exchange of pictures.
- Oh.
- You send her pictures?
- And she sends me some back.
- Like, sexy--sexy photos?
- Mm-hmm.
- So then that brings us
to the next question,
which is, then why haven't you
been able to video chat?
- Ugh, I have been, like,
trying to ask.
She's like, "Oh, no,
I just don't feel like
doing it right now."
Or, like,
"Oh, I'll do it later."
She never, like,
calls me back.
both: Hmm.
- Okay, so where are you
in terms of, like,
your relationship?
Do you feel like you're dating?
Is she your girlfriend?
- The thing about that, like--
I think I mentioned it
in the email,
but I'm actually in an
open relationship right now.
In a polyamorous relationship.
- Uh, you did not mention that
in the email.
- Oh, okay.
- With a significant other
named Pryncess.
- Wow.
- Okay, so hold on a second.
So you have a--
an in-person, physical...
- Great.
- Significant other?
- Yes.
- And does Pryncess know
about Alice, and what does she
think about it?
- Yes.
Pryncess is well aware
of this,
and Pryncess is
very supporting
of the relationship
with Alice.
- So Pryncess is, like,
on board and--
and just wants you
to figure out
who this person is.
- Yes.
- Now, does--does Alice know
about Pryncess?
- Yes, Alice does.
- And you've been
totally honest with her.
She knows
your open relationship,
and she's cool with that.
We want to help,
not just because it's
an interesting mystery
about Alice, but you're in such
an interesting situation.
I want to meet Pryncess...
- Yeah.
- I want to meet you.
- I want to meet everybody.
- Everybody.
- I'm in, I'm hooked.
- Actually, do you mind
coming down to Houston?
'Cause I'm staying with
a family friend right now.
- No, that's fine.
We'll meet you there.
- Okay, thank you.
I'll see you guys later.
all: Bye.
- See ya!
- Let's go to Houston.
- Yeah.
- Okay?
- All right.
- ♪ I wanna be low ♪
♪ I wanna be low ♪
- All right, Houston.
- It's beautiful.
♪ ♪
I wanna know if she's, like,
really in love
with this person.
- Obviously you talk to someone
for a year--
- You get invested.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Bing-bong ♪
Oh, what's up?
How are you?
- Hi!
- Nice to meet you.
both: Hi!
- So nice to meet you.
- You can come in.
- Wow, is this one
of your drawings?
- Ooh.
- Yeah.
It's just mostly,
like, sketches.
- Oh, wow!
- Ooh, whoa.
Wow.
- Oh, you're really
a talented artist.
- Thank you.
- Well, this is cool.
Um, and this is obviously
a big part of your life,
and Alice.
- Yeah.
- Let's go back now,
just kind of go over
how you met.
- The year I met Alice
was a very hard year.
That was the year
Hurricane Harvey hit Texas.
Yeah, and I had lost
my entire house.
- Oh.
- And it really
messed up everything,
'cause I dropped out
of high school
'cause I had
really bad anxiety,
and I was really stressed
over that.
And I told Alice, I'm like,
"I kinda feel useless
"'cause I don't have
my high school degree.
I feel like I'm stupid."
She's like, "No, you're not.
You were dealing with stress.
"Everyone goes through stress.
You're not thinking
when you have that."
It eventually got
the worst of me in January.
I was home alone and...
- Wow.
- And I called 911 immediately
'cause I was scared.
They were like, "We have
to take you to a hospital
so you can get checked out."
And they were like,
"You're only allowed
to have one phone call."
This was when
I was dating Pryncess,
and I called Alice instead.
- Wow.
- You chose Alice.
- Yeah.
With Alice, I can just
tell her anything.
And I was crying.
I'm like,
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
She's like,
"It's gonna be okay.
It's gonna get better."
- So Alice has really
been there for you.
- Yeah.
The moment before she hung up,
she told me she loved me.
- Aww.
- Wow.
- And then after that,
she told me she loved me
multiple times.
- And do you feel that love...
- Yes, definitely.
- In return?
Do you love her?
- Yes.
- So in--in, like,
a perfect scenario,
would you go to LA and be
in a relationship with Alice?
- Yes, 'cause I want to go
down there for school anyway.
- That's right,
check out CalArts.
- Yeah.
- What about Pryncess?
- Pryncess already said
that they'll be there for me
and support me, like,
no matter what.
- What does Pryncess think
about Alice,
considering
the circumstances and--
- Like, Pryncess was like,
"Well, if someone doesn't want
to video chat with me,
I would just stop talking
to them in general,"
and I'm like, "Well, I'm not
that type of person,"
and they understand that.
- Who's "they"?
Pryncess?
- Pryncess, they--they use
them/they pronouns.
- Got it, yeah.
- Oh.
- Yeah, 'cause they're
genderfluid.
- Okay, so this could
essentially open a door,
or it could close something
and let you move on.
- Yes, exactly.
- I am very curious about
what Alice looks like.
- Oh, yeah, let me show
a picture.
Do you want me to just show,
like, her Facebook page?
- Sure.
- Oh, [bleep].
She blocked me.
- What?
- Wait, Alice?
- Yes.
- Wait, did you tell her
you were writing in
to the show?
- Yeah.
- Oh.
- What about her Instagram?
- I haven't checked her
on her Instagram yet.
I'm not blocked there.
I'm not blocked--
- You can see her Instagram?
Here, let's see.
- She's really pretty.
- Yeah.
- But you're blocked
on Facebook.
Why would that have happened?
- I don't know.
- All right, well, we got
our work cut out for us.
We'll do some research.
Whatever happens,
we're with you.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- Yeah.
- Have a good night.
- Bye.
- Bye!Well...
- We got quite a story
on our hands.
- Yeah.
- I mean, clearly,
something's up with Alice.
- But why do you think
she blocked her?
- She knows we're here,
so she's freaking out.
- I'm worried, you know?
I mean, she went through
everything with the hurricane
and--and going through
so much anxiety.
There's really only so much
that a person can take.
[dramatic music]
- Here we are, day two.
- Day two.
This is what
I'm really here for.
I like to think of myself
as, like, a cyber hacker.
- Ah.
- 'Cause I've found
some bad stuff that way.
- This is where your--your
crazy-ex-girlfriend skills...
- Mm-hmm.
- Really come in.
- Yep.
♪ ♪
- All right.
[groaning]
- [sighs]
- Ready?
- Ready.
- All right, so Nique has
a significant other
named Pryncess.
They are in
a polyamorous relationship.
And Nique also is in love
with Alice.
- Right.
- But Nique's still not sure,
is she real?
- Is she?
- Let's find out.
All right, we got an email
from Nique.
"Alice's Information."
We got her phone number,
Facebook,
Tumblr page, Instagram,
and that's it.
Thanks.
- Okay, I wanna see her social.
Just because she blocked Nique
doesn't mean that we can't view
her Facebook.
- That's true.
All right, so this is
her Facebook page.
both: Okay.
- "Tattooed model,
fine artist,
located in OC, L.A."
Wait, that's it?
Or maybe she's like super--
uber private.
- Right, maybe it's all
buttoned up.
This is great.
I'm just gonna sit here
and let you...
- Yeah.
- Look, just take it.
Just--just do it.
- I'm just excited.
- I'm just gonna be
sitting here sipping my tea.
- [laughs]
Let's see, posts.
"Our bracelets.
Mine broke this weekend."
We'll have to go
back out for more."
- Ooh, who is that?
- Madi [bleep].
- Sounds like a friend.
- "12 hours ago."
- Whoa, recently.
All right, let's check her out.
both: Okay.
- Where does she live?
- Lives in Orange, California.
- Okay, signs point to Orange.
- Do we want to message Madi?
- Okay.
- Here, you wanna
come up with something?
- [gasps]What?
- Yeah.
- "Hey, Madi.
This is Nev and Elle."
Huh?
- Yeah.
- "We're doing an episode
that involves
"your friend Alice.
Could you give us a call?
We could really use your help.
Thanks."
- Wow, you really
know your stuff.
You did your homework.
- Long-time listener,
first-time caller.
[both laughing]
- So we reached out to Madi--
- I would like to see
Alice's Instagram.
It seems like she's
much more active
on her Instagram.
- Okay, let's see.
So we can see comments.
- Are there any photos
that she's been tagged in?
- Yeah.
Wow, those are new pics.
- And those are her tattoos.
Risqué.
- So, I mean, I don't know.
It feels like this is her.
Feels pretty legit.
- Yeah.
- All right, let's search
for her phone number.
[suspenseful music]
Hmm.
- Oh.
- No name.
- Okay, but Santa Ana.
That's OC.
- True.
That's all.
There's no address or anything.
I think this is a dead end.
[phone ringing]
- [gasps]
Who is it?
- Hello?
- Madi, hey.
Thanks for getting back to us.
We're trying to find out
everything we can
about your friend Alice.
Can you just tell us
how you know Alice?
- Do you still live
in Orange County?
- And--and does Alice also?
- Got it.
- And is that because--
does she travel a lot?
- Okay.
And Alice dates women, right?
- Okay.
All right,
so we have
a phone number for Alice.
Can you just confirm
whether that is or isn't
the same phone number
you have for Alice?
- 714-[bleep].
- Oh, that's not the number
that you have!
- What?
- Whoa.
You--you really, like,
pulled a "Maury" on me, there.
- But do you know
if your number is current?
Like, you've talked to her
with that number
pretty recently, or...?
- Wow.
In your experience with Alice,
has there ever been anyone
who's, like,
pretended to be her,
or has she ever, like,
struggled with fake accounts
or, like, angry ex's?
- So it's not impossible
that someone could be using
one of her accounts
and pretending to be her?
- Huh, interesting.
All right, well,
thank you so much.
- Thank you.
- Bye.
So wait a second.
- Wait, okay--
- So Alice is the girl
in the pictures.
She lives in Orange County,
she goes up to LA.
She travels, she models,
she does all the things...
- But that's not her number.
- Not her number.
But we know Alice is real.
- Yeah.
But is Nique talking to Alice?
- Right.
I don't think so.
- What does your gut tell you?
- I think it could be
a friend of Alice.
- Hmm.
- Someone who knows details
about her life,
who had access to an account
or something.
- [gasps]
- This could get really ugly.
[sinister music]
[phone line ringing]
- [indistinct]
both: Hey, Nique!
- Where you at right now?
- Great!
- We'd love to head over.
- Great.
- Awesome, see you soon.
- Hi!
both: Hey!
- Hi, hi.
- I'm Elle.
- I'm Pryncess.
- How are you?
- I'm good.
- Shall we?
[groans]
- Pryncess, it's so nice
to meet you.
- Thank you, it's nice
to meet you, too.
- So what--what do you think
of all this?
- Um, I--I really find it
just a little suspicious,
and just weird, and...
For someone you've been
talking to
for over a year,
and they don't...
video call you or anything.
It's very scary 'cause...
- Not pretty to us, especially.
- Yeah, it's just unkind
for genderfluid people
like myself.
- Queer.
- Yes, LGBT.
It can be just dangerous.
- Yeah.
If you don't mind me asking,
do you have
other relationships?
- I have other partners, yes.
I have, um, like,
friends with benefits,
but no, like, girlfriend
or boyfriend.
- How do you feel, just,
about the whole situation
with Alice?
Is there any jealousy?
- I'm not really
a jealous person,
so nothing really
bothers me that much
unless they're bothering her.
Then I'll get mad.
[laughs]
- It's nice to see
that you guys
are so supportive
of each other.
We obviously did some research.
We tried to figure out what's
going on with this girl, Alice.
- Yeah.
- So do you want to maybe talk
without Pryncess
and discuss this
a little bit more?
- Yeah.
- All right.
Lovely to meet you.
- You, too.
- Bye.
- All right, let's head over.
All right.
Pryncess is great.
- Yeah.
- There's obviously something
that's drawing you to Alice.
She's been, like,
a really steady,
reliable source for a year.
She's even someone
who you called
after you hurt yourself,
but, like, I'm concerned.
She's, like, pulling away.
- I--I'm terrified.
I really wouldn't know
what to do with myself
if I lost her.
[tense music]
- All right, let's see
if we can make
some sense out of all of this.
- Okay.
- So, went to her
Facebook page,
and the only comment in--
in any of this
is from this girl, Madi,
so we were like,
"Okay, this girl Madi
seems to be a friend."
- We sent a message to Madi.
- Then we went
to her Instagram.
Wait a second.
Wait, wait, wait.
We were just looking
at this Instagram earlier,
and now it's not loading.
Did she just take
this Instagram down?
- Let's check.
- Since, like, earlier?
- Let me see.
Oh, she did.
Her messages aren't
in my inbox anymore.
- Whoa.
- [bleep]
- So what--now all of a sudden
that Instagram's gone.
She deleted her account.
- What?
- Weird.
All right, well,
that's messed up.
- Yeah.
- Why would she just delete
all of her accounts
all of a sudden?
- I don't know.
- Well, check this out:
We got a phone call...
- Oh.
- From Madi.
- High school friend.
She did say that Alice
was the person
in the photographs
on the Facebook and everything,
and then we asked her
if she could verify
the phone number that we have,
and, uh, she basically said
that that wasn't her number.
When we asked her
when was the last time
she'd spoken to her,
just in case, you know--
she may have changed
her number--
but she said that she'd
spoken to her
probably about a week ago.
- Oh, dang.
- So that's concerning.
- Yeah.
- So, yeah.
So Madi has
a different number...
- Oh.
- For Alice than you have.
[melancholy music]
- ♪ Tell me I'm the love
of your life ♪
♪ Just for a night ♪
- This is...
[sighs]
- ♪ Even if you don't
feel it ♪
♪ ♪
- Just a lot to take in
right now.
- ♪ Tell me I'm the love
of your life ♪
♪ Just for the night ♪
- Okay.
- ♪ Even if
you don't mean it ♪
- So there's a couple things
that could be going on here.
The other thing Madi said
is that Alice has had
a lot of different
social media profiles,
some of which have been hacked.
So it's possible
that someone got access
to one of her accounts.
Maybe someone else has been
using her profile
pretending to be her,
and Alice is real,
it's just not
who you're talking to.
- Oh, that's scary.
I just feel...
lied to, and everything
I've told this person,
and it just feels like
I don't matter to them
in their eyes, like I'm just
something they can play with,
and that really hurts
my feelings.
[sniffs]
♪ ♪
[melancholy music]
♪ ♪
- You know, it doesn't change
the fact that whoever
you're talking to
has been there.
- Yeah.
- Um, I don't think they've
done it to--to hurt you.
- Yeah.
- But something's going on.
Are you willing to put
your emotional state
even more on the line
for this person
who's clearly not interested,
at least right now,
in, like, being real with you?
- I want to do this.
I need to do this for me,
not anyone else.
I need to do this for me.
- I think you should
call Alice.
- All right,
let's give her a call.
[phone line ringing]
- Hey, uh, is this Alice?
- Hey, Alice--
- Sorry?
- Oh, it's, uh--it's Nev
from the, uh, show "Catfish."
I'm here with Nique,
and also my friend Elle,
who's--who's helping me out,
and we were just
talking about you,
uh, so I thought
I'd give you a call.
How you doing?
[phone line beeps]
- Wow.
[somber music]
♪ ♪
- [soft weeping]
♪ ♪
I don't know why she doesn't
want to see me.
I can understand, like,
you're anxious about this.
I am, too.
I'm just stressing
and worrying about this.
I haven't been able to sleep,
and I just wanted
to see her so badly.
Why is she acting like this?
I just wanna be able
to hug her
and be able
to finally see her.
[sniffling]
- It sounds to me
that it's not that she doesn't
want to see you,
she sounds like she's--
it sounds like
she's hiding something
she doesn't want
to be honest about.
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- Is that pushing it
to call back?
- Or--or maybe just text.
Here, you wanna--
- Yeah.
- Has she ever had
that tone with you?
Like, where she got
really upset?
- That's the first time
I've really heard her,
like, upset.
- "Alice, sorry if I made you
uncomfortable.
"I'm just trying to help Nique.
"You're really importantto her.
"We totally understand
"and respect your feelingson this.
"We'd love to talk
if you have a minute.
We're here."
- So, look, something's
going on with Alice,
or whoever it is
that you're talking to.
You've been understanding
and patient with her.
You've expressed
many times to her
that you'd like to see her
and it's hurting you.
So here's what I'm thinking:
forget Alice for a moment.
Let's talk about you.
Why don't we take you to LA?
- [laughs]
I've never been
on a plane before.
- Never been on a plane.
- [laughs]
- Let's go to LA...
- Okay.
- Not for Alice.
Let's go for you.
- Okay.
- If we don't hear from Alice
and she disappears,
we go visit CalArts.
- [gasps]
Really?
- Yeah!
If we do hear from Alice
and she has a change of heart,
we're in LA...
- Yeah.
- And we can go meet her.
- I've never been out
of Texas before.
- Never left Texas?
- What?
- So let's plan
on leaving in the morning.
We'll go to LA
and we'll see what happens.
- Yeah.
I mean, I'm still anxious
and scared, but...
I'm all right.
- Yeah.
- Thank you.
- You okay?
- Yeah.
- We'll see you tomorrow.
We're gonna go to California.
- Tomorrow morning, whoo!
Tomorrow morning.
- Going back to Cali.
[tense music]
- [sighs]
You think she's okay?
- [sighs]
Good news is,
she has Pryncess,
but my concern is that
if we do meet Alice...
- Yeah.
- It's not gonna be good
for Nique.
I don't get the sense
that there's a version
of this working out
where Nique and Alice ride off
into the sunset together.
- I don't know
how this is gonna turn out.
- Okay, it's 5:00
in the morning.
I'm ready to go
to the airport.
I have not heard anything
from Alice yet.
Life doesn't wait,
so if you wanna get something,
you gotta go for it,
so we're just gonna have
to wing it.
There she is.
Morning.
- Hi!
- Ooh, she's warming
by the fire, here.
Why don't you get
a little closer?
Warm them buns.
- I'll toast it.
- There you go.
Hey!
- Good morning!
- You made it.
How you feeling?
- Still anxious and scared,
but you know,
if she decides to meet up,
I'm just ready for answers.
- Love it or leave it.
- Yeah.
- I take it you have not
heard from Alice.
- I have not.
- You wanna craft a text?
Say it as me,
but just say, like,
"Hey, wanted to let you know
I'm bringing Nique
to California."
- I said, "Hey, I wanted
you to know
"that we're bringing Nique
to California.
"We're doing this for her.
"If you have a change of heart
and you want to meet,
just let us know."
- ♪ There's all these people ♪
All right.
Let's do it.
- ♪ But I just want
to be alone ♪
- Chug, chug, chug.
- Whoo!
- [growls]
- ♪ There's all these people ♪
♪ I just wanna be alone
with you ♪
- ♪ I should have told you ♪
- Still no word from Alice.
You ready to go to LA?
- I'm ready.
- ♪ I should have told you ♪
♪ There's nowhere
to go from here ♪
- All right, we made it.
I'm gonna go see
if we got any--
oh, oh, we got it.
We got it.
- No.
- Okay.
"Hey, this is really hard
for me,
"but I understand that you're
just trying to help Nique,
"and I don't want to hurt her.
So if you come down,
I'll meet you."
Whoa.
All right, it worked.
The plan worked.
That's amazing.
- This is gonna be
something good.
- Yeah.
- "Ready to meet
in a couple hours."
Delivered.
- Yeah.
- Wow.
Talk about a smooth landing.
- [laughing]
♪ ♪
- Welcome to
"Los An-gelees."
Check it out.
We got a--it's an address.
All right, well, cool.
All right, so that--
that worked great.
- Amazing.
- I guess once we get
our stuff ready,
we can just head
right over there.
- I'm nervous.
♪ ♪
- All right, a bit of a drive,
but that's good.
You'll get to see LA.
- LA, yeah!
You nervous?
- Scared and nervous.
- "Scurvous."
- Scurvous.
I just want answers.
[suspenseful music]
- All right, pretty close.
♪ ♪
Six...
- There it is.
- Wait, this one?
- Yeah.
- Nice little house.
- It's her place.
Okay.
All right.
- Let's go.
- Let's do it.
[tense music]
Okay.
- You guys wanna hang here?
♪ ♪
[knocking on door]
♪ ♪
[crows calling]
♪ ♪
both: Hi.
- I'm Nev.
[tense music]
[knocking on door]
♪ ♪
- Hello.
Hi.
- Hi.
- I'm Nev.
- I'm very nervous.
- That's all right.
- [laughs]
She's out there?
[laughing]
- She's out here.
Say hello.
- Okay.
♪ ♪
Hi.
- Hey.
- How are you?
- You're so pretty.
[both laughing]
[indistinct chatter, laughter]
- How are you?
- I'm...
a little anxious and nervous,
but I'm better now.
- Absolutely also the samefor me.
[laughing]
- Okay, well...
- [laughs]
Hi.
- Yeah, this is Elle.
- Hi.
- I'm Alice.
- And I'm Nev.
- Nice to meet you again.
both: Nice to meet you.
- We're glad to be here,
but also, I think, curious
and somewhat confused.
- I'm also a little confused,
and, like, I didn't want
to do this
because I was concerned
that she called you
in the first place,
'cause I was like,
when you talk to somebody
and then they don't trust
who you are,
it made me feel anxious.
- I--I get that.
It wasn't that
I didn't trust you, but...
- You needed
to make sure that...
- Yeah, you're real
before I gave you
all of my heart.
- It just, like, hurt
my feelings a little bit.
- Okay, okay.
Um...[laughs]
I'm just gonna jump in.
So then where does it come in
that you aren't able
to video chat?
- I just didn't think
there was that much
of a lack of faith in me.
I didn't think
that it was like,
she needed to verify
who I was over FaceTime.
I thought she just wanted to.
So it was low urgency for me,
you know what I mean?
When I'm talking to a person,
I would really just rather talk
instead of focusing
on how I look.
- I completely understand.
I'm not trying to blame you.
I understand your anxiety
over all of this.
- But just, like,
one little video or something?
- Yeah, I--
- I'm not trying to defend her
on this side,
but I kind of do understand,
'cause we live
in completely different
time zones.
- You guys--
- Two hours.
- Yeah, two hours.
- I mean, I--I don't know,
I've just never been--
like, we don't even talk
on the phone.
- Why did you block her
on Facebook?
- I got incredibly anxious
about this whole thing.
Like, I have my own anxieties
as well.
- Yeah, sure.
- And I just felt like
all of this
didn't mean as much
because of the fact
that she didn't trust
who I was.
- We spoke
to your friend Madi...
- Mm-hmm, yeah.
- And asked her
if the phone number
that Nique has for you
is the same number
she has for you,
and she said it's not.
- Yeah, I have
two phone numbers.
So one for, like, the people
that I know in real life
and one for the people
that I meet on roleplay.
It helps me
keep things organized.
- Okay, well,
I have other questions,
but at the same time,
I, like, don't want
to frontload this.
You guys just met.
both: Yeah.
- So maybe we should just,
like, kind of check in.
So if you guys could go talk,
we could talk just for a minute
and just kind of, like,
go over stuff.
- Got you.
- Cool.
So I'll go sit with you
over here.
♪ ♪
- Okay.
How do you feel?
- A lot better.
- You feel a lot better?
- Yeah.
I'm kind of, like,
mostly satisfied
with the--the answers she had
to the questions,
'cause I kind of do understand
most of them.
- Yeah, but I just--can I be
totally honest with you?
- Yeah.
- It just feels [bleep] weird.
Yeah, it's exciting.
She's her, she's real,
she's nice, you know?
But...
at the same time, I mean,
you wrote to the show
because there's a whole year
where she's spent
kind of avoiding
being real with you,
and now that we're here,
it's just like,
"Oh, yeah, yeah, it's just
water under the bridge.
"None--never happened,
never happened,
never happened."
I'm sensing something
that's not genuine.
♪ ♪
- What do you think?
- Me?[laughs]
It's okay.
It's, um--she's really sweet.
I just, I'm like...
also very nervous, you know?
- What has been your
impression of...
this relationship?
- I--I love her,
I think she's, like--
we--I used to be
romantically interested in her
and we used to flirt a lot,
and then I stopped
feeling that way,
and without
addressing it, really.
I just kind of thought
it was mutual
because of her relationship
with Pryncess and everything.
- Well, at least
from what Nique told us,
she has very strong feelings
for you.
- Yeah.
When I was saying
I don't feel like TV's
the best place for this,
I meant it's probably not
the best place
for me to tell her
that, like, I don't have
romantic feelings.
- Right.
I just think
it'd be helpful for her
if you were very clear.
- Remember,
this whole thing, Nique?
This is for you.
This is your time
to question,
what were her intentions?
- There are still some things
that I want and need to know.
- Yeah.
Should I go ask her
to talk to you?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
Just a couple questions
she wanted to ask you.
Do you want to go
talk to her?
- Yeah.
Yeah, that would be fine.
♪ ♪
Can I come in?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- What'd you guys talk about?
- She was attracted,
physically,
to Nique at the beginning,
but then she felt like
it just sort of
turned into a friendship.
The main reason she didn't want
to come on the show
is 'cause she didn't want
to have tell Nique in--
to her face, like,
"Hey, I'm not into you."
♪ ♪
- I've been
asking you constantly
to come down to Texas,
but you denying each time
made me feel like
you didn't want to see me.
- I definitely wanted
to see you.
It's just because of your
relationship with Pryncess,
I thought it wouldn't hurt
your feelings
if I didn't make it
down to Texas.
I didn't know you were
actively seeking
other romantic,
polyamorous relationships.
I just didn't think that
it was as big
of an issue as it was.
I should have listened
to what you were saying
and actually taken...
what you were saying to heart.
- I do want to eventually come
to California for school.
If you're still in the area,
would you want to be in
an actual relationship with me?
♪ ♪
- I don't think that's
what I'm looking for.
♪ ♪
But, you know,
there's so much possible
in--in a few years.
You know, you're not gonna
come down for a while, so--
- Yeah.
- [laughs]
- That makes me feel
a little bit better.
There's still some time left.
♪ ♪
- ♪ It's safe to say ♪
♪ It's been a hard year ♪
♪ ♪
- ♪ If I count the ways ♪
- How'd it go?
- We did get a lot
of things cleared up.
Possibly in the future,
if I'm able
to come down to California,
it is a possibility
for a romantic relationship.
- Really?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Though it's not easy ♪
- Well, um, do you want
to just leave it
for the moment,
and we can come back--
- Later or tomorrow.
- Yep.
- Yeah.
- Okay, bye.
- ♪ You let the light in ♪
- I feel like today
did not go as well
as it could have.
A lot of what I said
was being misinterpreted,
and I didn't really
correct her
because I didn't want
to embarrass her.
In retrospect, I should have
made things clearer.
Hopefully,
it'll be better tomorrow.
- Something kind of
felt off yesterday.
- You think that some of it
is Alice
trying to not hurt
Nique's feelings?
I think the truth is that
she's not into her,
but I'm worried
Nique's not picking up on that.
- I know.
- So what do we do?
- Let's give Alice a call.
[phone line ringing]
- Oh.
- Hello?
- Hey, Alice.
This is Elle and Nev.
How you feeling today?
- Yeah, I--I totally
understand that.
- All right, so we're gonna go
pick up Nique
and bring her over to you.
- See you soon.
- All right, let's get going.
[suspenseful music]
- I see her.
- Oh, yeah.
- [clears throat]
- Good morning!
- How you feeling?
- Feeling better.
Yeah.
This is, like, possibly, like,
the best and only outcome.
'Cause I know right now
she's not ready
for a relationship,
but things could happen
in the future.
- All right.
You ready to do this?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
Do I--do I knock?
[knocking on door]
- Hello.
- Hi.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- What's up?
- Nothing much.
What's up with you?
- Hi.
both: Hi.
- I'm a toucher.
- [laughing] I am, too.
- All right.
How's everyone feeling?
- Good, actually.
- Good.
- I do think there's room
for, like,
additional communication today.
- Mm-hmm.
- I'll start.
- All right, go ahead.
- Um, so I was thinking
about it a lot yesterday,
and I feel like a lot
of the things that I was saying
were being misinterpreted
and misunderstood.
I thought that I had made it
very clear
that I didn't want
to pursue a relationship,
and I wanted to remain friends,
but when you left the car,
you told them that I had said
in--in the future,
there would be a chance.
[tense music]
- I probably didn't like,
state it right,
but that's kind of, like,
what I got the feeling.
That, like, within a few years
if our feelings do change
and we do become, like,
more closer.
Like, not right now.
I understand
that you don't want
a relationship right now,
but, like, in the future
it could be like
a 25% possibility.
- So I really don't have
an interest
in a romantic relationship
with you.
I tried to make it sound better
in the car,
and I should have been
more blunt,
but when you asked that,
I felt really pressured
to be like, "Uh, you know,
I guess...."
- You should have been blunt.
I don't understand.
- I was just worried about...
your--your mental health...
and I didn't want it
to hurt you.
[melancholy music]
- Can I ask you a question?
- Mm-hmm.
- The night that you got
the call from the ambulance,
how did you feel
when you got that call?
- I was pretty,
like, devastated,
because I couldn't do anything
from so far away,
and I'd also, you know...
I mean, I've had friends
who've, you know,
passed from that kind of thing
and, like, I--
it sucks not being able
to, like,
be there all the way.
It--it's just hard,
and I feel like
I've just been trying
to preserve, um, her emotions
for a long time to make sure
that I didn't lose her,
you know?
- I understand that.
I knew there was some things
that were my fault.
I assumed stuff,
and I apologize for that.
- Well, that's good.
I apologize
for not being
very communicative.
- Yeah.
- Well, I think that
now that you have spoken
your piece and your mind,
I think that
that probably will leave room
for an easier
and more clear friendship,
without any, like,
foggy lines being drawn.
- Yeah, at the end of it,
it's gonna be a good change.
- Yeah.
- Nice place to leave itfor now.
both: Mm-hmm.
- All right, so why don't we
let you guys hang out?
- All right, cool.
- ♪ To say ♪
♪ Once uphill ♪
- I'm sorry that I upset you,
but you got Pryncess,
which is good.
- Yeah.
- You know?
- This is gonna be good for us.
Like, I feel like
our friendship
is gonna be stronger
after this, you know?
- Yeah, and I won't have
any assumptions
like I used to have.
both: Yeah.
- Which is great.
- Yeah.
- ♪ My own life,
my own life ♪
[phone line ringing]
- Hey!
both: Whoa!
- Shaved your head!
- Yeah!
- Cool!
- Thank you.
- So what's up?
How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
I mean,
I'm still talking
to Alice and stuff.
- Awesome!
- I was a little sad
at first, thinking like,
"Oh, this isn't, like,
what I thought it was,"
but now I'm realizing
I would rather, like,
have her as a--just a friend
than, like, not even, like,
talk to her at all.
- What did Pryncess think
about everything?
- We're--we're closer
than, like, ever before,
'cause they think this was
a good experience, too.
- All right.
I mean, for sure.
- Positive vibes.
- Positive vibes.
- Positive vibes.
- Bye, Nique.
- Bye.
- Hi.
both: Hey!
- And how are things
with you and Nique?
- They're really good,
actually.
They're a lot better
than before, I think,
because there's this trust
that's been established.
- Nice.
- I'm glad to hear
that you guys
have still stayed friends,
because I think that
you've been
a really warm person
in her life.
- Yeah.
- I think in the end,
everybody got what they needed.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I agree.
- All right, bye, Alice.
- All right, bye.
- Devon is really
into this guy, James.
You're on the doorstep
of what could be
a very serious relationship.
- I just need your help
to knock on the door.
- James is asking you
to come see him.
Is this some type of trap?
This is the spot.
- How long do we stand around?
- Is this all for nothing?
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