Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 5, Episode 8 - Joanna & Bo - full transcript
Tattoo model, Joanna, was about to meet her online love in the flesh, but a crazy night in Vegas caused the whole relationship to go sour. Now she's enlisted Nev and Max to help track down her former flame and make things right.
- We'’ve been making this show
for almost four years now.
- But this is a love triangle
like we'’ve never seen before.
- I'’m nervous.
- It still could be anyone.
- I'’m [bleep] shaking.
[indistinct arguing]
- This is all for you
to look good.
[bleep] you, bitch.
I don'’t give a [bleep].
- Okay.
- Oh, my God.
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
- I'’ve got some big news.
I had my first tattoo removal
session.
I got a large lower back tattoo.
- That'’s a nice way to put it.
- As you can see,
I'’m all bandaged up.
So think about everything you do
before you do it.
- That'’s the speech we should
give to everyone
who'’s in an online relationship.
- We got email here from Joanna.
"Dear Nev and Max,
"My name is Joanna.
"I'’m 26, and I live in
Riverside, California.
"I am currently still in love
with a girl named Bo.
- ♪ It was a crush,
but I couldn'’t get enough ♪
- "Bo and I met over a year ago
on Plenty Of Fish.
"I spotter her and immediately
messaged her.
"We immediately hit it off,
and we texted every day
and night."
- ♪ I live my day as if
it was the last ♪
♪ Live my day as if
there was no past ♪
- After a few months of us
talking,
we officially started dating.
She brought out feelings that I
didn'’t even know I could feel.
- ♪ Doing that all night,
all summer ♪
♪ Doing it the way I wanna
- "I felt I had finally found
the girl of my dreams ♪
Bo lives in San Bernardino.
Wait a second.
- Wait a minute.
- Riverside and San Bernardino
are right next to each other.
- Neighboring cities.
- So this already doesn'’t look
good for Joanna.
- "We never FaceTimed
or Skyped."
Okay.
"But"--
- "But"--
- "But I never pushed her
too hard to do it
because I am not
a video chatter myself."
- What do people have against
video chat?
- "We never met in person,
"even though she lived
in a neighboring town.
"This wore on and I started
to have doubts.
"And after several failed
attempts to meet,
"my worst nightmare happened.
We broke up."
- ♪ Spend a life holding onto
nothing real ♪
- "She stopped talking to me
"and apparently got back
with her ex-girlfriend.
I was crushed."
Ouch.
"I was so heartbroken I just
couldn'’t get over her.
"I want to put her on the spot
and demand answers,
"but I know Bo and that will
just push her away.
"This needs a delicate hand.
Can you guys help?
Joanna"
- These are hands,
very delicate.
- Okay.
- Let'’s Skype her.
Hello.
- Oh, my God.
- Is she like an old-school
pinup doll?
Hey.
- Hey.
- We didn'’t realize you had
so many amazing tattoos.
- Oh, thank you.
- Nev'’s getting a tattoo
removed right now.
- Good luck.
- Have you had any
tattoos removed?
- It'’s a lot more painful,
I hear,
than actually getting a tattoo.
- It'’s not so bad.
- What do you do?
- I'’m a bartender,
I'’m a tattoo model,
and I'’m currently going to
school for cosmetology.
And I'’m a full-time mom.
- Oh, nice.
- Oh, cool.
How old is he/she?
- He'’s five.
- How did you end up with a son?
- His dad and I dated
for, like, ten years.
We'’re, like, high school
sweethearts.
I just recently started
identifying myself as bi,
so I guess that'’s kind of why
I made the Plenty of Fish,
because it'’s easier
to reach out, like--
versus going to a club
and trying to hit on a girl
for the first time
or something, you know.
If a guy hits on me, like,
I'’m confident,
but when it'’s a girl, I'’m just
like, "Oh, my gosh."
I tend to hide and get shy.
- Welcome to my life.
- [laughs]
- So Bo is your first serious
gay relationship.
- Yeah, I would say
she'’s the first girl
I'’ve fallen in love with, yeah.
She just made it so easy
to talk to her
and be there for me,
and I travel a lot,
so being on the road,
you know, like, she was just
there for me.
And, I don'’t know, you know,
I guess, like,
I put my guard down and I fell
in love with her,
like, instantly.
- And she'’s from San Bernardino.
- She'’s actually from
San Bernardino, yeah.
- And for six months,
you couldn'’t figure out
a way to grab a cup
of coffee or something?
- This one time we had planned
to meet up,
but I kind of--I would say,
like, chickened out
and I told her that my son
had a fever
and I couldn'’t make it.
- You came up with an excuse
at the last minute.
- I did.
She wanted to see me.
I wasn'’t available.
When I wanted to see her,
she wasn'’t available.
It kind of led me
to believe, like,
is there somebody else?
You know, are you hiding
something from me?
- She broke up with you, right?
- Yeah.
- What happened?
- Like, after all these
several attempts to meet,
she just gave up.
She just wasn'’t patient enough,
I guess.
- Wow, so she said,
"I can'’t do this
because you'’re too busy,"
basically.
- Exactly.
- She went back to date her ex?
- Yeah; it just happened
so quickly.
Like, it was so easy for her.
If you loved me,
how was it so easy for you
to get back with
your ex-girlfriend?
You know?
- You guys just stopped talking.
- Yeah.
I was pissed, you know?
I was hurt.
- Are you still in love
with her?
- Yeah.
The connection we did have
to me is, like,
something you don'’t find.
It'’s kind of like that once
in a lifetime feeling, to me,
I think, so...
I guess I just didn'’t want
to let go, like,
of the first girl
I'’ve fallen in love with.
- You want to finally meet her.
Get her face-to-face because
if the connection is there,
you think you can make this work
and she could be the love
of your life.
- I do.
As much as it'’s probably going
to break my heart,
like, I just--I need to know.
I don'’t have balls.
I know you guys do.
[laughter]
So I need your guys'’ help
to help me.
- All right, so sit tight.
We'’ll make our way out
to Riverside.
Maybe we'’ll get some tats.
- Let'’s do that.
- I got some new space
opening up soon.
I got some good real estate.
- All right, guys.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
- She'’s the catfish.
- On paper.
- She'’s the catfish.
- She is a catfish.
- She'’s avoided
the other person.
- She'’s the beautiful tattooed--
- Model!
- I mean, I think there are
version of having a crush
and being in love with someone
where you'’re so nervous
and afraid.
And while she was
figuring it out,
Bo was like, "Uh, I'’m not gonna
wait around for you
to figure this out,"
and Joanna was bummed.
- All right.
Let'’s go pay her a visit.
- ♪ You bite my leg,
you pull my heart ♪
♪ And then you wanna play
so then you take me apart ♪
♪ Nobody does it, does it
like you do ♪
- All right, sunny California.
- Love it.
- Love it.
- ♪ Darling boy,
you'’re ever so charming ♪
♪ All the trouble you causing
♪ I love the way you do
- We got some wild animalsoutside.
I don'’t think he'’s going to make
it to the grass
anytime soon, though.
- He seems stoned.
[laughter]
[doorbell rings]
Is someone there?
- Hello!
- Hello.
Hi.
How are you?
- You guys are here.
- We'’re here.
All right, come on, guys.
Come on in, buddy.
- Take a seat.
- So your relationship with Bo.
Is she super hot?
Is she, like, a crazy hot
swimsuit model?
- She'’s what they call a stud.
So, like--
- Oh.
- Tattoos, piercings, so...
Yeah.
Definitely my scene.
- Let'’s see her.
- We need to see.
All right, let'’ see.
Okay, here we go.
Yeah, she'’s very cute.
So, look.
- Down to biz.
- Let'’s get down to business.
There was an understanding
between you and Bo
that, like, you really like
each other
and that you would meet up soon.
- Mm-hmm.
- And it was the combination
of your hectic crazy schedule
and her crazy schedule...
- Yeah.
- It kept getting pushed back
and pushed back and pushed back.
- Yeah, there was a time
we were supposed to meet
at a gay club,
and that'’s just not where
I wanted to meet her
for the first time.
I'’m sort of kind of scared
of it as well.
You know, like, am I ready
to meet the girl
that I'’m in love with?
But I just didn'’t know how
to tell her,
like, I was uncomfortable
with it.
So I kind of did lie to her
and I told her, you know,
my son was sick
and I wasn'’t gonna be able
to make it.
So we just kind of let it go,
and I want to say a month
or two went on,
and I told her I had
a shoot in Vegas.
And I invited her out,
and she told me that she was
interested in going,
and so I was like, "Okay, cool."
Like, she said she couldn'’t make
it that Friday;
she would be coming Saturday,
and that her friend was going to
be coming out on Friday.
I told her, "Well, like, if your
friend'’s going to be out,
I'’ll meet up with your friend,"
you know?
Her friend'’s name is Ana.
She gave me her number.
I started texting her friend,
and I told her, like,
"We'’re gonna be here
if you want to meet us."
So we ended up meeting
each other
and we were talking about Bo
and stuff,
so it was like--yeah, she was,
like, telling me about--
they'’re best friends.
- And she knows that you and Bo
are in a relationship.
- Mm-hmm.
We end up partying, you know,
having a good time.
This is where it gets
a little...
- Something happened.
- Yeah.
We end up, um,
kind of cuddling.
- With Bo'’s best friend, Ana.
- [gasps] Why do you have to
say it like that?
- Well, because that'’s
what happened.
- Wow.
- Okay, so...
- Wow.
- Okay.
- [laughs] Oh, man.
- So--yeah, so, whatever.
I guess we kissed.
And then all the sudden
I get a message,
and it was--
Ana had told her everything.
So...
- And what did she say?
- She just said, you know, she
wasn'’t gonna be coming out,
like, to Vegas
or whatever, but...
- What happens in Vegas...
definitely does not stay
in Vegas.
Okay, so this is some
serious drama.
- Yeah.
- Did you talk to Bo ever again
after that?
- No.
I needed closure and I wasn'’t
getting it from her.
I messaged Ana,
and Ana agreed to meet with me.
- Where?
- At a bar.
- Here.
- Yeah, out here.
And she then told me everything
that happened.
Bo had gotten back with
her ex-girlfriend.
- So she broke up with you.
- Yeah, she--
yeah, of course.
- And broke your heart.
- And that'’s the last time
you see Ana?
- Yeah.
I was crushed, obviously.
So I didn'’t want to see her.
Like, I felt like [bleep].
- What are you looking
or hoping to get
out of finally meeting her?
- I want her.
I want a relationship.
- That, you still want that.
- Yeah.
I'’m in love with her still.
The connection we have
is something
I haven'’t found
with anybody else.
I don'’t want to say that this is
a way of getting her attention,
but I feel like it is.
You know, to show her that I
really did [bleep] up
in front of everybody.
So I guess that'’s why
I need you guys.
- All right, so look, send us
everything you have,
then we'’ll get back to you.
- Thank you, guys, again.
All right, bye, buys.
- Bye.
[dramatic music]
- The craziest thing is that
she could have met Bo twice.
Obviously we'’re gonna talk
to Ana.
- She'’s the link here.
It'’s a love triangle
like we'’ve never seen before.
[upbeat music]
- All right.
- Joanna and Bo.
- Joanna got online,
she signed up for
a dating website,
saw Bo, immediately hit it off,
and then--
womp womp.
She meets Ana, Bo'’s best friend.
They end up actually kind of,
like, fooling around,
and then Bo is like, "It'’s over.
I'’m getting back with my ex."
Okay, so we got Bo'’s address,
we'’ve got her Kik ID,
we'’ve got some photos.
"Bo'’s friend'’s name is Ana.
"I don'’t have a last name
for her,
but her phone number is--
okay."
And then we'’ve got Ana'’s phone
number, and that'’s it.
- Let'’s cross-check some
of those images.
Number one,
numero uno, all right.
Here we go.
Here we go. Here we go.
- Nothing.
- Picture number two.
Picture number two.
- Searching.
Nothing.
All right, last one.
We got one more chance.
- Putting all our eggs
in this basket.
Come on.
- Nothing.
- We got zip.
Who is this girl?
- I feel like if Bo does have
social media accounts,
they'’re probably listed
under some version of her name
that isn'’t exactly that.
- Maybe her name isn'’t Bo
[bleep] at all,
and she gave Joanna a fake name.
- [groans]
What else can we do?
We got the address.
- Yeah, look up the address.
- Let'’s see what we go.
- Oh.
We got a hit.
- Huh.
- Whoa.
Ana [bleep].
- Same last name.
- What'’s that?
- Whoa.
And Bo'’s friend'’s name is Ana.
- That'’s something interesting.
- That'’s interesting.
- So it could be that Ana
and Bo are the same person.
- Oh, boy.
But if that'’s true,
it'’d be weird to lie about
who you are and
pick the pictures of a girl
that looks a lot kind of like
you do.
- What'’s Ana'’s last name?
- We don'’t know.
- Well, we'’ve got her
phone number,
and that'’s always the best clue.
- So let'’s just call Ana,
see if we can, I don'’t know,
meet up with her.
I mean, Ana'’s our
direct contact.
[phone line trilling]
- Yeah, hi, is this Ana?
- Yeah, it'’s Nev and Max,
and we are calling from
the MTV show "Catfish."
I don'’t know if you'’ve seen
our show or not,
but hopefully you have.
- So we'’re out here
in Riverside,
because Joanna,
who I know you met,
has been talking to your friend
Bo for the last year,
and was hoping that she'’d be
able to finally get to meet Bo.
Obviously you'’re a big part
of this story.
- So what'’s your last name?
- [bleep].
- Got it. Okay.
Can we meet up with you
and talk about this
a little bit more so it'’s not
just over the phone?
- We'’ll find a place
somewhere around here
and we'’ll send you the info
and we'’ll meet you there
in, like, an hour.
Bye-bye.
I don'’t know.
- Ana [bleep]?
Where did that come from?
- We haven'’t seen that name.
- Nope.
Just from my voice-ometer,
didn'’t sound like she was lying.
Or she'’s just such a good liar.
- She'’s been doing it--yeah.
- She'’s either a great liar
or she'’s not lying.
- So your voice-ometer
gives us a pretty wide range.
It'’s very helpful, Max.
- She'’s either a career
lifetime liar,
in which case
she'’s very dangerous,
or she'’s totally innocent.
- All right,
we'’re gonna meet Ana.
So if Ana'’s telling the truth
and she is really good friends
with Bo,
she'’d be able to show us
that Bo'’s legit.
Do they have any photos together
that she can show us?
And if she can'’t do that,
then we know something'’s
going on.
We need to see some
hard evidence,
because right now
everybody'’s a suspect.
- I love when you talk
like a detective.
[laughter]
- This could be her right here.
Hello.
What'’s up?
Ana?
- Hey.
- Hey.
How you doing?
- Good. How are you?
- Nev. Max.
- How are ya?
- That'’s crazy.
You guys are actually here.
- The real deal.
Joanna reached out to us.
- I know her.
- Yeah.
Sounds like you guys met.
- Maybe even a little bit
more than met.
- [laughs]
- I don'’t know.
- I don'’t know anything.
Well, I mean, I didn'’t know
Joanna
until, you know, Bo started
talking to me about her.
I think they were just talking.
I didn'’t think they were dating
or having anything serious.
- Well, okay, so will you
just explain
what happened that Friday night
in Vegas?
- When me and Joanna met,
we, like--I think we clicked.
Her first words were like,
"Oh, my God, you'’re cute."
And I'’m like, "Um, okay, cool"
Long story short, we hooked up.
- Did you feel conflicted?
- Honestly, I forgot all
about anything else.
- [laughs]
'’Cause you were just so psyched
that Joanna was down.
- Well, yeah, '’cause she'’s hot.
- Yeah.
- It was just, like, about
me and her at that moment.
But, I mean, even after Vegas,
you know, Bo, she had a girl
the whole time;
like, the whole time
she had a girl.
They were just on and off.
Bo got back with her girl,
and Joanna texted me, you know,
"Hey, let'’s hang out."
We went clubbing
and we hooked up again.
- Wait. Time-out.
Double time-out.
- Yeah.
Triple T.
That'’s not the story that we got
from Joanna.
- Right.
- You guys...
- Hooked up again.
I mean, we were acting
like a couple all night,
like, holding hands,
kissing and stuff.
I guess after that
she just let me know
that she didn'’t have feelings
for me.
She said in a way she was
trying to get back at Bo.
I was like, "Whoa,
that'’s not cool."
- It would obviously
seem strange
to ask you, like, is Bo real?
Because that'’s your friend.
But do you have any photos
of you and Bo together?
- Yeah, I have a few.
Wait.
That'’s Bo?
- Yeah.
- What?
Looks very different from
the girl in the pictures.
- That'’s my friend.
I mean, my ex-friend.
Hopefully friend again.
- That'’s not the Bo--
- Very interesting. Okay.
- Not the Bo that Joanna thinks
she'’s been talking to.
- How does Bo dress
normally?
- Like a girl.
- Does she have lots of tattoos?
- No.
- Do you know who this is?
- No, I never seen her
in my life.
- Never seen this girl?
- No, she'’s cute, though.
- That'’s who Joanna said
she was attracted to,
as opposed to a girly girl.
- Then Bo,
as you can follow here,
was lying to Joanna about
what she looked like.
- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
- Does Bo date women normally?
- Yeah.
- And she'’s open and she'’s...
- Yeah.
- Out and...
- Yeah.
- Well, I mean...
- Could you also be Bo?
- No.
I don'’t think I need to put
fake pictures up on
the Internet.
I mean, I get girls.
You guys saw that.
I really--I don'’t feel like
I need to--
- Well, you say you get girls.
I mean, we don'’t know.
- I mean, you want to see
videos, I can show you videos.
[laughter]
- Okay, we believe you.
So I guess that'’s that.
I mean, all that'’s left now is
to, I guess, reach out to Bo,
finally meet and...
- Put the whole thing to rest.
- Yeah.
- Nice to meet you.
- You too.
- I mean, that'’s pretty
interesting.
I believe her.
- Yeah, I do too.
- I don'’t know she would
lie to us.
She doesn'’t seem like she
has any reason to lie.
She didn'’t know that her friend
was essentially
catfishing Joanna.
I hadn'’t even considered that.
- So why would Bo,
who seems to be out
and has no problem with it,
likes girls,
why would she send a picture
of a stud
who'’s no more or less pretty
than she is?
I think the next move is to
tell Joanna what we found out.
- I don'’t know how she'’s
gonna take it
when we tell her that Bo
is definitely not the girl
in the pictures.
[upbeat rock music]
- How do you think Joanna is
gonna take this?
- I mean, I don'’t think she ever
considered for a second
that she was being lied to,
right?
- She said that.
[doorbell rings]
- Hey.
both: Hey.
- All right, got the Gladiator
sandals on.
- Oh, gosh.
- [laughs]
Why don'’t we sit down and we'’ll
talk about everything
that we figured out
and what we found.
- My heart'’s, like, racing,
but, yeah, I'’m fine.
- What are you nervous about?
- I don'’t know.
I just--I don'’t know.
I mean, good or bad,
I'’m just nervous, period.
I'’ve been waiting for this for,
like, a long time, you know?
So...
I'’m okay.
- Okay, all right.
- Yeah.
- Let'’s dive in.
- Okay, so...
We didn'’t have a ton, obviously.
We had the email that you
sent us yesterday,
which had Ana'’s phone number.
So we just called Ana,
your--the girl that you met.
And yesterday afternoon,
we went and met up with Ana.
And she kind of gave us
her version of the story.
One thing, though, that she said
was interesting--
this is a little bit different
than your version of the story--
was that however many weeks
later
that you guys met up again,
she then felt that you were
flirting with her
and you guys were holding hands
and maybe even had
hooked up again.
- Oh, hell no.
Okay.
- Well, okay, so her version
of the story
is that you guys then sort of
fooled around again.
- I have no idea what the hell
she'’s talking about.
It'’s all [bleep], so--
I mean, as soon as I got
my answers,
I left, and that was it.
- Okay.
But what was really sort of
the turning point
with Ana
was, we said to her,
"Do you have any pictures
of you and Bo?"
And she did.
She showed us a Snap
of her and Bo.
- No.
- Well, that'’s what we said.
"Hey, wait a second.
That doesn'’t look like Bo."
- Hell no.
Mm-mm.
That'’s not...
Not even a stud, like...
no.
[melancholy music]
♪
- It'’s not something
I'’ve considered,
so, I'’m like--
I need a moment.
I need a moment.
♪
- I know it'’s hard to
kind of digest
all this stuff right now.
- I'’m trying and just--
it'’s a lot.
- It'’s okay.
- Yeah.
- Clearly there'’s a lot more
emotional turmoil going on here,
I think than maybe you even
wanted to show.
- Yeah.
- We can contact Bo.
- Okay.
- All right, so I'’m gonna send
Bo a message.
"Hey Bo.
This is Nev from '’Catfish.'’
"We'’ve been talking to
your friend Joanna
"who would love to meet you,
"and we would like to make
that happen.
Can you please me
when you get a chance?"
All right.
"Oh, are you with Joanna?"
she asks.
Yeah.
- Yeah, would you be able
to meet today?
- Meet up?
Okay.
She says, "That'’s fine.
"This has gone on for
a really long time.
I want to get this over with."
Okay.
I mean, are you ready to meet
her today
if this--whoever this is?
Like, if she says a time
and place,
are you down to finally just
drive there and do it?
- Yeah.
- "Does Joanna still have
my address?"
Whoa.
"You can come over when I'’m home
in a few hours."
Whoever you'’re talking to,
we got them engaged;
they'’re willing to meet up
with us.
- I'’m ready.
- Okay.
Let'’s do it.
- [sighs]
- You okay?
- I'’m nervous.
I feel like someone just punched
me in the stomach.
- ♪ I'’ve got a reason ♪
♪ For what I believe in
♪ And I'’ve got the love
of a power ♪
- It still could be anyone.
- At this point, I'’m just like,
I just want to get it over with.
♪
- Okay, so this is it.
♪
- I'’m [bleep] shaking.
- You ready to go through
with this?
- Yeah.
I just want to get it over with.
- Let'’s do it.
♪
[music stops]
[gate creaks]
[eerie music]
♪
[bird cawing and chirping]
- Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[bleep].
- You okay?
- You all right?
[knock on door]
- Okay.
♪
- Hey.
- No.
- Hi.
♪
- Wow.
[bleep].
- Joanna.
- No.
I don'’t even want to hear it.
Are you serious?
You don'’t want to talk to me?
- No, why would you--
really?
- I'’m sorry.
- No.
I want to hear from, like,
your mouth.
Like, is it really you?
♪
- Yeah.
- [sniffles]
Why?
I don'’t even know why.
Like, why?
You think it'’s cool
to just [bleep] with my emotions
like that?
- It'’s not even like that.
I'’m sorry.
- It'’s been you the whole time.
Everything'’s been you
the whole [bleep] time.
- Yeah.
I don'’t know,
I'’m sorry.
- No, [bleep].
And then you'’re going around
saying that we slept together?
That'’s what you said.
- I never said we slept--
- That'’s what you said.
- No, [bleep].
You [bleep] too, dude.
- How did I [bleep]?
What did I say?
- Chill out.
Don'’t talk to me like that.
- No, [bleep] you.
What did I say?
What did I say?
You think it'’s really cool
to [bleep] with my emotions,
like, for what?
For what?
Is this making you look good?
- No, it'’s not making me
look good.
- Is this making you look good?
- But you act like I'’m the only
one going around lying
when you'’re [bleep] too.
- How am I [bleep]?
About what?
- [bleep].
- What?
♪
- No, I'’m not cool.
I'’m not at all.
So they don'’t--
they'’re just lying?
You didn'’t say that we
slept together?
- I never said we slept
together,
but I think you go around
bull[bleep] and lying
about, like, we did hook up
twice and like--
- We hooked up twice?
- Yeah, we did.
- We hooked up twice?
We hooked up twice?
- Hey, okay.
- [bleep].
♪
- No, this is all for her
to look good.
- [bleep] come on.
No, it'’s not.
- No, [bleep] you.
- Get the [bleep] out of
my house, bitch.
- Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
- Bitch, I don'’t give a--
[bleep], don'’t bring me out here
for some bull[bleep] like this.
[bleep] you.
I'’m not doing this [bleep].
Not [bleep] doing this [bleep].
♪
Oh, my God.
I can'’t even believe
this [bleep].
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Oh, my God.
Oh, my [bleep] God.
I can'’t even believe
this [bleep].
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Yeah.
- All right.
Why don'’t you sit in the car
for a second?
Why don'’t you just get in
the car for a second?
- I don'’t want to be here,
like, at all.
- I don'’t blame you.
- Get the [bleep] out of here.
[softly]
Oh, my God.
[crying]
- What should we do?
- I mean, I'’m gonna just
check in with...
Ana quickly.
- [bleep].
- What are you feeling?
- I just want to go home.
I feel, like, [bleep] full.
Like, for real, like...
- That'’s pretty stone-cold.
I mean, she presented herself
as, like, this innocent
go-between.
- It'’s [bleep] up.
It'’s like, it'’s just [bleep]
horrible.
- Hey, Ana?
- It'’s just me.
You okay?
- I saw, that'’s why I wanted
to make sure you'’re okay.
Like, it was a mistake.
- Right.
- You okay?
- I just want to get out
of here.
I just--I don'’t know.
I don'’t even know what to feel.
Honestly, like...
I'’m waiting for her to tell me
that she'’s just kidding.
- The girl in the pictures
that you showed us...
- The girl in the pictures
you sent Joanna
is someone that you found
on the Internet?
Just some random girl.
Okay.
You guys have an actual history
with each other,
and now there'’s been
this altercation,
and, like, I don'’t want things
to end like this.
So for today,
I think it'’s best for both
of you that we, like,
chill out.
We'’ll figure all this out,
okay?
We'’ll talk to you later.
You okay?
You ready to go home?
- Yeah, I want to go.
I want to get out of here.
- It'’s not cool
that you hit her.
I mean, she definitely didn'’t
start a fight with you.
- What was she expecting,
though?
What was she--
- That'’s what she was
expecting, actually,
which is why she didn'’t have
the nerve to tell you before.
- That'’s not a [bleep] excuse.
That'’s horrible, like...
it'’s just...
- I'’m just saying, violence
is never something that'’s okay
in a situation that doesn'’t
need to have violence.
- I felt [bleep] stupid.
- It just got really volatile,
which is why I think for today,
why don'’t we just let
our adrenaline calm down
before we really, like, try
to figure any of this out.
We'’ve been making this show
for almost four years now,
and we'’ve, for the most part,
had no real physical
altercations.
So I think that changes
our course of action today.
I don'’t know if these two girls
are gonna want to
sit down together.
I want to check in, see
what'’s going on with Ana,
and finally put this
crazy situation to bed.
All right, ready?
- Let'’s do it.
- Hey, there she is.
Hello.
- Hey.
- How you doing?
Bring it in. Bring it in.
We'’ve been thinking about this
whole situation.
Now that we know the truth,
'’cause, you know, we only found
out yesterday too.
- I'’m not the bad person.
I just didn'’t want to face
you guys,
'’cause I feel like I lied
to you guys
and not have to show my--
like, it'’s not just something
that'’s easy for me to do,
you know?
- Do you lie a lot?
- I don'’t lie a lot.
I just act like I'’m something
I'’m not.
- I at least want to know
how much of this was you
taking advantage of or
manipulating Joanna?
Like, how did this really play
out for you?
- I don'’t think none of it
was to manipulate.
Like, to me, I was just gonna
set it up and see
if I even got a message.
I opened up a Plenty of Fish
with my old pictures,
and I thought it was funny
that nobody messaged me,
so I made another one, like,
just to see
if it was, like, the app
or if it was me or what it was.
I got so many messages
and never replied
'’cause, you know,
to me it'’s like,
"Why am I gonna reply?
Like, that'’s not me."
- Right.
- ♪ Careful what you wish for
- But when Joanna--the minute
I saw her pictures,
I was like--I mean, to me,
she'’s like...
amazing.
She'’s beautiful,
and I just--there'’s no way
I couldn'’t reply,
and then once I did reply,
it just seems like you forget
that it'’s fake.
Like, you even--
I had to remind myself.
Shoot, she'’s not even talking
to me-me.
Like, you know?
- You have to understand
that Joanna is gonna feel
like you really took advantage
of her.
- And she has every right to.
I mean, I didn'’t intentionally
do that.
- What'’s special about Joanna?
- She'’s just--I think I'’m, like,
a really soft person,
and she'’s the opposite.
She'’s, like, hard, you know.
She'’ll be like, "No, this is
what you need to do"
with my family.
Like, I always told her,
I wasn'’t talking to my family.
I hadn'’t heard of my mom
for six years,
you know, '’cause of the whole
being gay thing,
and she was just like, "[bleep]
'’em; you don'’t need '’em.
You know you have your aunt."
And she was the person that made
me realize, like,
my aunt gave me the best
childhood
I could possibly dream of,
you know.
Why am I crying for my mom?
It wouldn'’t have been the same
with my mom, you know,
and she was the one that made me
open my eyes to that.
- ♪ Sticking thorns
into my side ♪
- I think she made me stop
feeling sorry for myself.
It was just easy to tell her,
like, it hurts
to know my family'’s all there
but they won'’t talk to me.
[sniffles]
That'’s it.
That'’s all there really was.
- Are you in love with her?
- I love her, yeah.
- Do you want to be with her?
- I mean, I would love to.
I do love her;
I care a lot about her.
- Well, I think you should
tell her that.
I can'’t tell you what she'’ll say
or how she'’ll respond,
but I think it would be
important for her to know that
so she doesn'’t just think
you were messing with her.
- Yeah.
I mean, if she'’s okay,
I just don'’t want to put her
in another uncomfortable
situation like that.
Like, if she'’s cool, I'’m cool.
- This episode of
"Catfish: The TV Show"
continues now.
You all right?
- Yeah.
- Don'’t hyperventilate on us.
- No.
[Nev sighs]
- Okay.
- Ready?
- Whoo, yeah.
I'’m ready.
- All right.
Let'’s head in there.
[bleep].
[dramatic music]
♪
[knock on door]
- Hi.
- Hi.
How you doing?
- I'’m good.
Is it okay if we come in?
- Yeah.
- All right, cool.
Stand over here by the kitchen
counter for a minute.
Come on in.
You know, yesterday was
kind of a mess,
and no one'’s blaming anybody
or try to undo what happened;
it happened.
She understands why
you were upset
and doesn'’t blame you
for feeling that way.
That said, what happened
yesterday
does not represent, I think,
the scope of your relationship,
so what I thought this would be
a good opportunity to do
was just hear each other out.
- Okay, great.
So why don'’t--
I'’m just gonna stand here.
I don'’t think there'’s any reason
to think that you guys can'’t
just talk to each other
for a minute.
- I don'’t know how to start.
I mean, I didn'’t do anything
on purpose.
- So it was an accident?
- It'’s not an accident.
It'’s like, when I made
the whole thing,
I made a profile with
my pictures and stuff,
and, like, you know,
nobody hit me up,
and it was just, like, I just
wanted to see what would happen
with somebody else'’s pictures.
And, like, a lot of people
messaged before you did,
you know, I just ignored '’em,
'’cause it'’s like, why would
I message somebody back
out of a fake profile?
- So I was the lucky one.
- No, see, that'’s not it.
See, it'’s just like to me,
when you hit me up, like,
when I looked at your profile,
like, everything,
it was just like,
you'’re just a really
unique girl,
and when you hit me up,
it'’s like,
I just couldn'’t ignore
your message, you know?
Like, there'’s a lot of times
where I wanted to tell you
the truth, but it was just
really hard for me
to let that go, because, like,
became my rock.
I mean, you know my story.
You know everything
with my family.
- I don'’t even know
if that'’s true.
- It'’s true, though.
- Okay.
- It is true.
Like, everything'’s true.
- Coming out and telling me
the truth, I appreciate it,
but at the same time, like,
you knew for a year, like,
you'’re [bleep] me,
and I kind of feel like
you'’re playing
the victim card right now.
- I'’m not playing the victim.
I admit to everything I did.
- She doesn'’t know what
it'’s like to feel
like you right now
in this scenario,
however you felt yesterday.
- I don'’t want to go back
to those feelings
from yesterday,
but it obviously was
a [bleep] feeling.
I didn'’t mean for it to mean,
like, so angry,
but I was sad.
I did cry.
You know what I mean?
I [bleep] cried all last night.
To me it feels like
I'’m mourning a loss of somebody
that never even existed.
- And it'’s my fault.
[sniffles]
- Just give me some time,I guess.
And we'’ll go from there.
Like, I don'’t hate you.
It'’s definitely a huge
learning experience.
I just need some time.
- I do love you, though.
I, like, got mad love for you.
- Yeah.
- I'’m sorry; I just had
to throw that out there.
Like, if you would have
met me-me,
would you have dated me?
Like, me?
- I just feel like that--
you just completely [bleep]
any of that up.
- So I had a chance
once upon a time.
- Possibly.
- ♪ Beauty of my better half
♪ See it clearly looking back
♪ Could never be mine
♪ No, you'’ll never be mine,
love ♪
- I guess we'’ll just see
what happens.
- I think clearly
wherever we are with this
right now
is a pretty okay place.
- Yeah.
- I think that'’s a good place
to leave it.
- I agree.
- Joanna, can I have, like,
a hug?
- I don'’t really
want to give you a hug.
- No, that'’s cool.
- Okay.
[somber music]
♪
- You'’re good?
- I'’m good.
Bye.
- Bye.
- ♪ I told you everything
♪ In my dreams
♪ In your dreams
- That went better than
I expected.
♪
- That'’s got to be some sort
of relief.
- Yeah, I feel good.
I mean, It feels good.
Didn'’t expect her to be
so cool.
Hopefully we become friends
one day.
♪
[phone line trilling]
- Hey.
- Hey.
- How are you?
- I'’ve been good.
- So have you been in touch
at all with Ana?
- We actually have.
- Is there any possibility
you could see yourself
in the future
being with Ana?
- She'’s actually in
a relationship now,
and she'’s moved on.
I'’m just more like,
"Well, damn."
- You want what you can'’t have.
- [laughs]
- We'’re gonna call Ana now
and check in with her.
- Put in a good word in for me.
- Okay, we will.
- All right, Joanna.
both: Bye.
- See you guys later. Bye.
[phone line trilling]
both: Hey!
- There she is.
What'’s up, Ana?
- What'’s up?
- Tell us what'’s going on
with you.
- I'’m in a really happy
relationship.
- Really?
- Yeah.
It'’s pretty cool.
It'’s awesome.
- Whoa.
- [laughs]
- Well, is there anything
right now
that you'’d like to say
to Joanna?
- I'’m always gonna have love
for her.
I don'’t think that'’s
gonna change.
- Well, look, sounds like
you'’re doing well.
Happy you'’re in a relationship.
Glad you and Joanna
are still talking.
Who knows what might
happen there.
- You never know.
Check back in two months.
I might be in relationship
with her.
[laughs]
- Whoa.
[laughs]
All right, see ya.
- Take care.
- "I hope this relationship
is my last."
- She sent me a picture
of a ultrasound.
Then she had a miscarriage,
but she could still be pregnant.
- We could be dealing with
an entire family
catfishing one person.
- We don'’t know how many people
we'’re dealing with.
Someone'’s coming.
- I'’m coming right now.
1076
00:41:05.
for almost four years now.
- But this is a love triangle
like we'’ve never seen before.
- I'’m nervous.
- It still could be anyone.
- I'’m [bleep] shaking.
[indistinct arguing]
- This is all for you
to look good.
[bleep] you, bitch.
I don'’t give a [bleep].
- Okay.
- Oh, my God.
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
- I'’ve got some big news.
I had my first tattoo removal
session.
I got a large lower back tattoo.
- That'’s a nice way to put it.
- As you can see,
I'’m all bandaged up.
So think about everything you do
before you do it.
- That'’s the speech we should
give to everyone
who'’s in an online relationship.
- We got email here from Joanna.
"Dear Nev and Max,
"My name is Joanna.
"I'’m 26, and I live in
Riverside, California.
"I am currently still in love
with a girl named Bo.
- ♪ It was a crush,
but I couldn'’t get enough ♪
- "Bo and I met over a year ago
on Plenty Of Fish.
"I spotter her and immediately
messaged her.
"We immediately hit it off,
and we texted every day
and night."
- ♪ I live my day as if
it was the last ♪
♪ Live my day as if
there was no past ♪
- After a few months of us
talking,
we officially started dating.
She brought out feelings that I
didn'’t even know I could feel.
- ♪ Doing that all night,
all summer ♪
♪ Doing it the way I wanna
- "I felt I had finally found
the girl of my dreams ♪
Bo lives in San Bernardino.
Wait a second.
- Wait a minute.
- Riverside and San Bernardino
are right next to each other.
- Neighboring cities.
- So this already doesn'’t look
good for Joanna.
- "We never FaceTimed
or Skyped."
Okay.
"But"--
- "But"--
- "But I never pushed her
too hard to do it
because I am not
a video chatter myself."
- What do people have against
video chat?
- "We never met in person,
"even though she lived
in a neighboring town.
"This wore on and I started
to have doubts.
"And after several failed
attempts to meet,
"my worst nightmare happened.
We broke up."
- ♪ Spend a life holding onto
nothing real ♪
- "She stopped talking to me
"and apparently got back
with her ex-girlfriend.
I was crushed."
Ouch.
"I was so heartbroken I just
couldn'’t get over her.
"I want to put her on the spot
and demand answers,
"but I know Bo and that will
just push her away.
"This needs a delicate hand.
Can you guys help?
Joanna"
- These are hands,
very delicate.
- Okay.
- Let'’s Skype her.
Hello.
- Oh, my God.
- Is she like an old-school
pinup doll?
Hey.
- Hey.
- We didn'’t realize you had
so many amazing tattoos.
- Oh, thank you.
- Nev'’s getting a tattoo
removed right now.
- Good luck.
- Have you had any
tattoos removed?
- It'’s a lot more painful,
I hear,
than actually getting a tattoo.
- It'’s not so bad.
- What do you do?
- I'’m a bartender,
I'’m a tattoo model,
and I'’m currently going to
school for cosmetology.
And I'’m a full-time mom.
- Oh, nice.
- Oh, cool.
How old is he/she?
- He'’s five.
- How did you end up with a son?
- His dad and I dated
for, like, ten years.
We'’re, like, high school
sweethearts.
I just recently started
identifying myself as bi,
so I guess that'’s kind of why
I made the Plenty of Fish,
because it'’s easier
to reach out, like--
versus going to a club
and trying to hit on a girl
for the first time
or something, you know.
If a guy hits on me, like,
I'’m confident,
but when it'’s a girl, I'’m just
like, "Oh, my gosh."
I tend to hide and get shy.
- Welcome to my life.
- [laughs]
- So Bo is your first serious
gay relationship.
- Yeah, I would say
she'’s the first girl
I'’ve fallen in love with, yeah.
She just made it so easy
to talk to her
and be there for me,
and I travel a lot,
so being on the road,
you know, like, she was just
there for me.
And, I don'’t know, you know,
I guess, like,
I put my guard down and I fell
in love with her,
like, instantly.
- And she'’s from San Bernardino.
- She'’s actually from
San Bernardino, yeah.
- And for six months,
you couldn'’t figure out
a way to grab a cup
of coffee or something?
- This one time we had planned
to meet up,
but I kind of--I would say,
like, chickened out
and I told her that my son
had a fever
and I couldn'’t make it.
- You came up with an excuse
at the last minute.
- I did.
She wanted to see me.
I wasn'’t available.
When I wanted to see her,
she wasn'’t available.
It kind of led me
to believe, like,
is there somebody else?
You know, are you hiding
something from me?
- She broke up with you, right?
- Yeah.
- What happened?
- Like, after all these
several attempts to meet,
she just gave up.
She just wasn'’t patient enough,
I guess.
- Wow, so she said,
"I can'’t do this
because you'’re too busy,"
basically.
- Exactly.
- She went back to date her ex?
- Yeah; it just happened
so quickly.
Like, it was so easy for her.
If you loved me,
how was it so easy for you
to get back with
your ex-girlfriend?
You know?
- You guys just stopped talking.
- Yeah.
I was pissed, you know?
I was hurt.
- Are you still in love
with her?
- Yeah.
The connection we did have
to me is, like,
something you don'’t find.
It'’s kind of like that once
in a lifetime feeling, to me,
I think, so...
I guess I just didn'’t want
to let go, like,
of the first girl
I'’ve fallen in love with.
- You want to finally meet her.
Get her face-to-face because
if the connection is there,
you think you can make this work
and she could be the love
of your life.
- I do.
As much as it'’s probably going
to break my heart,
like, I just--I need to know.
I don'’t have balls.
I know you guys do.
[laughter]
So I need your guys'’ help
to help me.
- All right, so sit tight.
We'’ll make our way out
to Riverside.
Maybe we'’ll get some tats.
- Let'’s do that.
- I got some new space
opening up soon.
I got some good real estate.
- All right, guys.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
- She'’s the catfish.
- On paper.
- She'’s the catfish.
- She is a catfish.
- She'’s avoided
the other person.
- She'’s the beautiful tattooed--
- Model!
- I mean, I think there are
version of having a crush
and being in love with someone
where you'’re so nervous
and afraid.
And while she was
figuring it out,
Bo was like, "Uh, I'’m not gonna
wait around for you
to figure this out,"
and Joanna was bummed.
- All right.
Let'’s go pay her a visit.
- ♪ You bite my leg,
you pull my heart ♪
♪ And then you wanna play
so then you take me apart ♪
♪ Nobody does it, does it
like you do ♪
- All right, sunny California.
- Love it.
- Love it.
- ♪ Darling boy,
you'’re ever so charming ♪
♪ All the trouble you causing
♪ I love the way you do
- We got some wild animalsoutside.
I don'’t think he'’s going to make
it to the grass
anytime soon, though.
- He seems stoned.
[laughter]
[doorbell rings]
Is someone there?
- Hello!
- Hello.
Hi.
How are you?
- You guys are here.
- We'’re here.
All right, come on, guys.
Come on in, buddy.
- Take a seat.
- So your relationship with Bo.
Is she super hot?
Is she, like, a crazy hot
swimsuit model?
- She'’s what they call a stud.
So, like--
- Oh.
- Tattoos, piercings, so...
Yeah.
Definitely my scene.
- Let'’s see her.
- We need to see.
All right, let'’ see.
Okay, here we go.
Yeah, she'’s very cute.
So, look.
- Down to biz.
- Let'’s get down to business.
There was an understanding
between you and Bo
that, like, you really like
each other
and that you would meet up soon.
- Mm-hmm.
- And it was the combination
of your hectic crazy schedule
and her crazy schedule...
- Yeah.
- It kept getting pushed back
and pushed back and pushed back.
- Yeah, there was a time
we were supposed to meet
at a gay club,
and that'’s just not where
I wanted to meet her
for the first time.
I'’m sort of kind of scared
of it as well.
You know, like, am I ready
to meet the girl
that I'’m in love with?
But I just didn'’t know how
to tell her,
like, I was uncomfortable
with it.
So I kind of did lie to her
and I told her, you know,
my son was sick
and I wasn'’t gonna be able
to make it.
So we just kind of let it go,
and I want to say a month
or two went on,
and I told her I had
a shoot in Vegas.
And I invited her out,
and she told me that she was
interested in going,
and so I was like, "Okay, cool."
Like, she said she couldn'’t make
it that Friday;
she would be coming Saturday,
and that her friend was going to
be coming out on Friday.
I told her, "Well, like, if your
friend'’s going to be out,
I'’ll meet up with your friend,"
you know?
Her friend'’s name is Ana.
She gave me her number.
I started texting her friend,
and I told her, like,
"We'’re gonna be here
if you want to meet us."
So we ended up meeting
each other
and we were talking about Bo
and stuff,
so it was like--yeah, she was,
like, telling me about--
they'’re best friends.
- And she knows that you and Bo
are in a relationship.
- Mm-hmm.
We end up partying, you know,
having a good time.
This is where it gets
a little...
- Something happened.
- Yeah.
We end up, um,
kind of cuddling.
- With Bo'’s best friend, Ana.
- [gasps] Why do you have to
say it like that?
- Well, because that'’s
what happened.
- Wow.
- Okay, so...
- Wow.
- Okay.
- [laughs] Oh, man.
- So--yeah, so, whatever.
I guess we kissed.
And then all the sudden
I get a message,
and it was--
Ana had told her everything.
So...
- And what did she say?
- She just said, you know, she
wasn'’t gonna be coming out,
like, to Vegas
or whatever, but...
- What happens in Vegas...
definitely does not stay
in Vegas.
Okay, so this is some
serious drama.
- Yeah.
- Did you talk to Bo ever again
after that?
- No.
I needed closure and I wasn'’t
getting it from her.
I messaged Ana,
and Ana agreed to meet with me.
- Where?
- At a bar.
- Here.
- Yeah, out here.
And she then told me everything
that happened.
Bo had gotten back with
her ex-girlfriend.
- So she broke up with you.
- Yeah, she--
yeah, of course.
- And broke your heart.
- And that'’s the last time
you see Ana?
- Yeah.
I was crushed, obviously.
So I didn'’t want to see her.
Like, I felt like [bleep].
- What are you looking
or hoping to get
out of finally meeting her?
- I want her.
I want a relationship.
- That, you still want that.
- Yeah.
I'’m in love with her still.
The connection we have
is something
I haven'’t found
with anybody else.
I don'’t want to say that this is
a way of getting her attention,
but I feel like it is.
You know, to show her that I
really did [bleep] up
in front of everybody.
So I guess that'’s why
I need you guys.
- All right, so look, send us
everything you have,
then we'’ll get back to you.
- Thank you, guys, again.
All right, bye, buys.
- Bye.
[dramatic music]
- The craziest thing is that
she could have met Bo twice.
Obviously we'’re gonna talk
to Ana.
- She'’s the link here.
It'’s a love triangle
like we'’ve never seen before.
[upbeat music]
- All right.
- Joanna and Bo.
- Joanna got online,
she signed up for
a dating website,
saw Bo, immediately hit it off,
and then--
womp womp.
She meets Ana, Bo'’s best friend.
They end up actually kind of,
like, fooling around,
and then Bo is like, "It'’s over.
I'’m getting back with my ex."
Okay, so we got Bo'’s address,
we'’ve got her Kik ID,
we'’ve got some photos.
"Bo'’s friend'’s name is Ana.
"I don'’t have a last name
for her,
but her phone number is--
okay."
And then we'’ve got Ana'’s phone
number, and that'’s it.
- Let'’s cross-check some
of those images.
Number one,
numero uno, all right.
Here we go.
Here we go. Here we go.
- Nothing.
- Picture number two.
Picture number two.
- Searching.
Nothing.
All right, last one.
We got one more chance.
- Putting all our eggs
in this basket.
Come on.
- Nothing.
- We got zip.
Who is this girl?
- I feel like if Bo does have
social media accounts,
they'’re probably listed
under some version of her name
that isn'’t exactly that.
- Maybe her name isn'’t Bo
[bleep] at all,
and she gave Joanna a fake name.
- [groans]
What else can we do?
We got the address.
- Yeah, look up the address.
- Let'’s see what we go.
- Oh.
We got a hit.
- Huh.
- Whoa.
Ana [bleep].
- Same last name.
- What'’s that?
- Whoa.
And Bo'’s friend'’s name is Ana.
- That'’s something interesting.
- That'’s interesting.
- So it could be that Ana
and Bo are the same person.
- Oh, boy.
But if that'’s true,
it'’d be weird to lie about
who you are and
pick the pictures of a girl
that looks a lot kind of like
you do.
- What'’s Ana'’s last name?
- We don'’t know.
- Well, we'’ve got her
phone number,
and that'’s always the best clue.
- So let'’s just call Ana,
see if we can, I don'’t know,
meet up with her.
I mean, Ana'’s our
direct contact.
[phone line trilling]
- Yeah, hi, is this Ana?
- Yeah, it'’s Nev and Max,
and we are calling from
the MTV show "Catfish."
I don'’t know if you'’ve seen
our show or not,
but hopefully you have.
- So we'’re out here
in Riverside,
because Joanna,
who I know you met,
has been talking to your friend
Bo for the last year,
and was hoping that she'’d be
able to finally get to meet Bo.
Obviously you'’re a big part
of this story.
- So what'’s your last name?
- [bleep].
- Got it. Okay.
Can we meet up with you
and talk about this
a little bit more so it'’s not
just over the phone?
- We'’ll find a place
somewhere around here
and we'’ll send you the info
and we'’ll meet you there
in, like, an hour.
Bye-bye.
I don'’t know.
- Ana [bleep]?
Where did that come from?
- We haven'’t seen that name.
- Nope.
Just from my voice-ometer,
didn'’t sound like she was lying.
Or she'’s just such a good liar.
- She'’s been doing it--yeah.
- She'’s either a great liar
or she'’s not lying.
- So your voice-ometer
gives us a pretty wide range.
It'’s very helpful, Max.
- She'’s either a career
lifetime liar,
in which case
she'’s very dangerous,
or she'’s totally innocent.
- All right,
we'’re gonna meet Ana.
So if Ana'’s telling the truth
and she is really good friends
with Bo,
she'’d be able to show us
that Bo'’s legit.
Do they have any photos together
that she can show us?
And if she can'’t do that,
then we know something'’s
going on.
We need to see some
hard evidence,
because right now
everybody'’s a suspect.
- I love when you talk
like a detective.
[laughter]
- This could be her right here.
Hello.
What'’s up?
Ana?
- Hey.
- Hey.
How you doing?
- Good. How are you?
- Nev. Max.
- How are ya?
- That'’s crazy.
You guys are actually here.
- The real deal.
Joanna reached out to us.
- I know her.
- Yeah.
Sounds like you guys met.
- Maybe even a little bit
more than met.
- [laughs]
- I don'’t know.
- I don'’t know anything.
Well, I mean, I didn'’t know
Joanna
until, you know, Bo started
talking to me about her.
I think they were just talking.
I didn'’t think they were dating
or having anything serious.
- Well, okay, so will you
just explain
what happened that Friday night
in Vegas?
- When me and Joanna met,
we, like--I think we clicked.
Her first words were like,
"Oh, my God, you'’re cute."
And I'’m like, "Um, okay, cool"
Long story short, we hooked up.
- Did you feel conflicted?
- Honestly, I forgot all
about anything else.
- [laughs]
'’Cause you were just so psyched
that Joanna was down.
- Well, yeah, '’cause she'’s hot.
- Yeah.
- It was just, like, about
me and her at that moment.
But, I mean, even after Vegas,
you know, Bo, she had a girl
the whole time;
like, the whole time
she had a girl.
They were just on and off.
Bo got back with her girl,
and Joanna texted me, you know,
"Hey, let'’s hang out."
We went clubbing
and we hooked up again.
- Wait. Time-out.
Double time-out.
- Yeah.
Triple T.
That'’s not the story that we got
from Joanna.
- Right.
- You guys...
- Hooked up again.
I mean, we were acting
like a couple all night,
like, holding hands,
kissing and stuff.
I guess after that
she just let me know
that she didn'’t have feelings
for me.
She said in a way she was
trying to get back at Bo.
I was like, "Whoa,
that'’s not cool."
- It would obviously
seem strange
to ask you, like, is Bo real?
Because that'’s your friend.
But do you have any photos
of you and Bo together?
- Yeah, I have a few.
Wait.
That'’s Bo?
- Yeah.
- What?
Looks very different from
the girl in the pictures.
- That'’s my friend.
I mean, my ex-friend.
Hopefully friend again.
- That'’s not the Bo--
- Very interesting. Okay.
- Not the Bo that Joanna thinks
she'’s been talking to.
- How does Bo dress
normally?
- Like a girl.
- Does she have lots of tattoos?
- No.
- Do you know who this is?
- No, I never seen her
in my life.
- Never seen this girl?
- No, she'’s cute, though.
- That'’s who Joanna said
she was attracted to,
as opposed to a girly girl.
- Then Bo,
as you can follow here,
was lying to Joanna about
what she looked like.
- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
- Does Bo date women normally?
- Yeah.
- And she'’s open and she'’s...
- Yeah.
- Out and...
- Yeah.
- Well, I mean...
- Could you also be Bo?
- No.
I don'’t think I need to put
fake pictures up on
the Internet.
I mean, I get girls.
You guys saw that.
I really--I don'’t feel like
I need to--
- Well, you say you get girls.
I mean, we don'’t know.
- I mean, you want to see
videos, I can show you videos.
[laughter]
- Okay, we believe you.
So I guess that'’s that.
I mean, all that'’s left now is
to, I guess, reach out to Bo,
finally meet and...
- Put the whole thing to rest.
- Yeah.
- Nice to meet you.
- You too.
- I mean, that'’s pretty
interesting.
I believe her.
- Yeah, I do too.
- I don'’t know she would
lie to us.
She doesn'’t seem like she
has any reason to lie.
She didn'’t know that her friend
was essentially
catfishing Joanna.
I hadn'’t even considered that.
- So why would Bo,
who seems to be out
and has no problem with it,
likes girls,
why would she send a picture
of a stud
who'’s no more or less pretty
than she is?
I think the next move is to
tell Joanna what we found out.
- I don'’t know how she'’s
gonna take it
when we tell her that Bo
is definitely not the girl
in the pictures.
[upbeat rock music]
- How do you think Joanna is
gonna take this?
- I mean, I don'’t think she ever
considered for a second
that she was being lied to,
right?
- She said that.
[doorbell rings]
- Hey.
both: Hey.
- All right, got the Gladiator
sandals on.
- Oh, gosh.
- [laughs]
Why don'’t we sit down and we'’ll
talk about everything
that we figured out
and what we found.
- My heart'’s, like, racing,
but, yeah, I'’m fine.
- What are you nervous about?
- I don'’t know.
I just--I don'’t know.
I mean, good or bad,
I'’m just nervous, period.
I'’ve been waiting for this for,
like, a long time, you know?
So...
I'’m okay.
- Okay, all right.
- Yeah.
- Let'’s dive in.
- Okay, so...
We didn'’t have a ton, obviously.
We had the email that you
sent us yesterday,
which had Ana'’s phone number.
So we just called Ana,
your--the girl that you met.
And yesterday afternoon,
we went and met up with Ana.
And she kind of gave us
her version of the story.
One thing, though, that she said
was interesting--
this is a little bit different
than your version of the story--
was that however many weeks
later
that you guys met up again,
she then felt that you were
flirting with her
and you guys were holding hands
and maybe even had
hooked up again.
- Oh, hell no.
Okay.
- Well, okay, so her version
of the story
is that you guys then sort of
fooled around again.
- I have no idea what the hell
she'’s talking about.
It'’s all [bleep], so--
I mean, as soon as I got
my answers,
I left, and that was it.
- Okay.
But what was really sort of
the turning point
with Ana
was, we said to her,
"Do you have any pictures
of you and Bo?"
And she did.
She showed us a Snap
of her and Bo.
- No.
- Well, that'’s what we said.
"Hey, wait a second.
That doesn'’t look like Bo."
- Hell no.
Mm-mm.
That'’s not...
Not even a stud, like...
no.
[melancholy music]
♪
- It'’s not something
I'’ve considered,
so, I'’m like--
I need a moment.
I need a moment.
♪
- I know it'’s hard to
kind of digest
all this stuff right now.
- I'’m trying and just--
it'’s a lot.
- It'’s okay.
- Yeah.
- Clearly there'’s a lot more
emotional turmoil going on here,
I think than maybe you even
wanted to show.
- Yeah.
- We can contact Bo.
- Okay.
- All right, so I'’m gonna send
Bo a message.
"Hey Bo.
This is Nev from '’Catfish.'’
"We'’ve been talking to
your friend Joanna
"who would love to meet you,
"and we would like to make
that happen.
Can you please me
when you get a chance?"
All right.
"Oh, are you with Joanna?"
she asks.
Yeah.
- Yeah, would you be able
to meet today?
- Meet up?
Okay.
She says, "That'’s fine.
"This has gone on for
a really long time.
I want to get this over with."
Okay.
I mean, are you ready to meet
her today
if this--whoever this is?
Like, if she says a time
and place,
are you down to finally just
drive there and do it?
- Yeah.
- "Does Joanna still have
my address?"
Whoa.
"You can come over when I'’m home
in a few hours."
Whoever you'’re talking to,
we got them engaged;
they'’re willing to meet up
with us.
- I'’m ready.
- Okay.
Let'’s do it.
- [sighs]
- You okay?
- I'’m nervous.
I feel like someone just punched
me in the stomach.
- ♪ I'’ve got a reason ♪
♪ For what I believe in
♪ And I'’ve got the love
of a power ♪
- It still could be anyone.
- At this point, I'’m just like,
I just want to get it over with.
♪
- Okay, so this is it.
♪
- I'’m [bleep] shaking.
- You ready to go through
with this?
- Yeah.
I just want to get it over with.
- Let'’s do it.
♪
[music stops]
[gate creaks]
[eerie music]
♪
[bird cawing and chirping]
- Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[bleep].
- You okay?
- You all right?
[knock on door]
- Okay.
♪
- Hey.
- No.
- Hi.
♪
- Wow.
[bleep].
- Joanna.
- No.
I don'’t even want to hear it.
Are you serious?
You don'’t want to talk to me?
- No, why would you--
really?
- I'’m sorry.
- No.
I want to hear from, like,
your mouth.
Like, is it really you?
♪
- Yeah.
- [sniffles]
Why?
I don'’t even know why.
Like, why?
You think it'’s cool
to just [bleep] with my emotions
like that?
- It'’s not even like that.
I'’m sorry.
- It'’s been you the whole time.
Everything'’s been you
the whole [bleep] time.
- Yeah.
I don'’t know,
I'’m sorry.
- No, [bleep].
And then you'’re going around
saying that we slept together?
That'’s what you said.
- I never said we slept--
- That'’s what you said.
- No, [bleep].
You [bleep] too, dude.
- How did I [bleep]?
What did I say?
- Chill out.
Don'’t talk to me like that.
- No, [bleep] you.
What did I say?
What did I say?
You think it'’s really cool
to [bleep] with my emotions,
like, for what?
For what?
Is this making you look good?
- No, it'’s not making me
look good.
- Is this making you look good?
- But you act like I'’m the only
one going around lying
when you'’re [bleep] too.
- How am I [bleep]?
About what?
- [bleep].
- What?
♪
- No, I'’m not cool.
I'’m not at all.
So they don'’t--
they'’re just lying?
You didn'’t say that we
slept together?
- I never said we slept
together,
but I think you go around
bull[bleep] and lying
about, like, we did hook up
twice and like--
- We hooked up twice?
- Yeah, we did.
- We hooked up twice?
We hooked up twice?
- Hey, okay.
- [bleep].
♪
- No, this is all for her
to look good.
- [bleep] come on.
No, it'’s not.
- No, [bleep] you.
- Get the [bleep] out of
my house, bitch.
- Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
- Bitch, I don'’t give a--
[bleep], don'’t bring me out here
for some bull[bleep] like this.
[bleep] you.
I'’m not doing this [bleep].
Not [bleep] doing this [bleep].
♪
Oh, my God.
I can'’t even believe
this [bleep].
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Oh, my God.
Oh, my [bleep] God.
I can'’t even believe
this [bleep].
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
I want to get the [bleep]
out of here.
- Yeah.
- All right.
Why don'’t you sit in the car
for a second?
Why don'’t you just get in
the car for a second?
- I don'’t want to be here,
like, at all.
- I don'’t blame you.
- Get the [bleep] out of here.
[softly]
Oh, my God.
[crying]
- What should we do?
- I mean, I'’m gonna just
check in with...
Ana quickly.
- [bleep].
- What are you feeling?
- I just want to go home.
I feel, like, [bleep] full.
Like, for real, like...
- That'’s pretty stone-cold.
I mean, she presented herself
as, like, this innocent
go-between.
- It'’s [bleep] up.
It'’s like, it'’s just [bleep]
horrible.
- Hey, Ana?
- It'’s just me.
You okay?
- I saw, that'’s why I wanted
to make sure you'’re okay.
Like, it was a mistake.
- Right.
- You okay?
- I just want to get out
of here.
I just--I don'’t know.
I don'’t even know what to feel.
Honestly, like...
I'’m waiting for her to tell me
that she'’s just kidding.
- The girl in the pictures
that you showed us...
- The girl in the pictures
you sent Joanna
is someone that you found
on the Internet?
Just some random girl.
Okay.
You guys have an actual history
with each other,
and now there'’s been
this altercation,
and, like, I don'’t want things
to end like this.
So for today,
I think it'’s best for both
of you that we, like,
chill out.
We'’ll figure all this out,
okay?
We'’ll talk to you later.
You okay?
You ready to go home?
- Yeah, I want to go.
I want to get out of here.
- It'’s not cool
that you hit her.
I mean, she definitely didn'’t
start a fight with you.
- What was she expecting,
though?
What was she--
- That'’s what she was
expecting, actually,
which is why she didn'’t have
the nerve to tell you before.
- That'’s not a [bleep] excuse.
That'’s horrible, like...
it'’s just...
- I'’m just saying, violence
is never something that'’s okay
in a situation that doesn'’t
need to have violence.
- I felt [bleep] stupid.
- It just got really volatile,
which is why I think for today,
why don'’t we just let
our adrenaline calm down
before we really, like, try
to figure any of this out.
We'’ve been making this show
for almost four years now,
and we'’ve, for the most part,
had no real physical
altercations.
So I think that changes
our course of action today.
I don'’t know if these two girls
are gonna want to
sit down together.
I want to check in, see
what'’s going on with Ana,
and finally put this
crazy situation to bed.
All right, ready?
- Let'’s do it.
- Hey, there she is.
Hello.
- Hey.
- How you doing?
Bring it in. Bring it in.
We'’ve been thinking about this
whole situation.
Now that we know the truth,
'’cause, you know, we only found
out yesterday too.
- I'’m not the bad person.
I just didn'’t want to face
you guys,
'’cause I feel like I lied
to you guys
and not have to show my--
like, it'’s not just something
that'’s easy for me to do,
you know?
- Do you lie a lot?
- I don'’t lie a lot.
I just act like I'’m something
I'’m not.
- I at least want to know
how much of this was you
taking advantage of or
manipulating Joanna?
Like, how did this really play
out for you?
- I don'’t think none of it
was to manipulate.
Like, to me, I was just gonna
set it up and see
if I even got a message.
I opened up a Plenty of Fish
with my old pictures,
and I thought it was funny
that nobody messaged me,
so I made another one, like,
just to see
if it was, like, the app
or if it was me or what it was.
I got so many messages
and never replied
'’cause, you know,
to me it'’s like,
"Why am I gonna reply?
Like, that'’s not me."
- Right.
- ♪ Careful what you wish for
- But when Joanna--the minute
I saw her pictures,
I was like--I mean, to me,
she'’s like...
amazing.
She'’s beautiful,
and I just--there'’s no way
I couldn'’t reply,
and then once I did reply,
it just seems like you forget
that it'’s fake.
Like, you even--
I had to remind myself.
Shoot, she'’s not even talking
to me-me.
Like, you know?
- You have to understand
that Joanna is gonna feel
like you really took advantage
of her.
- And she has every right to.
I mean, I didn'’t intentionally
do that.
- What'’s special about Joanna?
- She'’s just--I think I'’m, like,
a really soft person,
and she'’s the opposite.
She'’s, like, hard, you know.
She'’ll be like, "No, this is
what you need to do"
with my family.
Like, I always told her,
I wasn'’t talking to my family.
I hadn'’t heard of my mom
for six years,
you know, '’cause of the whole
being gay thing,
and she was just like, "[bleep]
'’em; you don'’t need '’em.
You know you have your aunt."
And she was the person that made
me realize, like,
my aunt gave me the best
childhood
I could possibly dream of,
you know.
Why am I crying for my mom?
It wouldn'’t have been the same
with my mom, you know,
and she was the one that made me
open my eyes to that.
- ♪ Sticking thorns
into my side ♪
- I think she made me stop
feeling sorry for myself.
It was just easy to tell her,
like, it hurts
to know my family'’s all there
but they won'’t talk to me.
[sniffles]
That'’s it.
That'’s all there really was.
- Are you in love with her?
- I love her, yeah.
- Do you want to be with her?
- I mean, I would love to.
I do love her;
I care a lot about her.
- Well, I think you should
tell her that.
I can'’t tell you what she'’ll say
or how she'’ll respond,
but I think it would be
important for her to know that
so she doesn'’t just think
you were messing with her.
- Yeah.
I mean, if she'’s okay,
I just don'’t want to put her
in another uncomfortable
situation like that.
Like, if she'’s cool, I'’m cool.
- This episode of
"Catfish: The TV Show"
continues now.
You all right?
- Yeah.
- Don'’t hyperventilate on us.
- No.
[Nev sighs]
- Okay.
- Ready?
- Whoo, yeah.
I'’m ready.
- All right.
Let'’s head in there.
[bleep].
[dramatic music]
♪
[knock on door]
- Hi.
- Hi.
How you doing?
- I'’m good.
Is it okay if we come in?
- Yeah.
- All right, cool.
Stand over here by the kitchen
counter for a minute.
Come on in.
You know, yesterday was
kind of a mess,
and no one'’s blaming anybody
or try to undo what happened;
it happened.
She understands why
you were upset
and doesn'’t blame you
for feeling that way.
That said, what happened
yesterday
does not represent, I think,
the scope of your relationship,
so what I thought this would be
a good opportunity to do
was just hear each other out.
- Okay, great.
So why don'’t--
I'’m just gonna stand here.
I don'’t think there'’s any reason
to think that you guys can'’t
just talk to each other
for a minute.
- I don'’t know how to start.
I mean, I didn'’t do anything
on purpose.
- So it was an accident?
- It'’s not an accident.
It'’s like, when I made
the whole thing,
I made a profile with
my pictures and stuff,
and, like, you know,
nobody hit me up,
and it was just, like, I just
wanted to see what would happen
with somebody else'’s pictures.
And, like, a lot of people
messaged before you did,
you know, I just ignored '’em,
'’cause it'’s like, why would
I message somebody back
out of a fake profile?
- So I was the lucky one.
- No, see, that'’s not it.
See, it'’s just like to me,
when you hit me up, like,
when I looked at your profile,
like, everything,
it was just like,
you'’re just a really
unique girl,
and when you hit me up,
it'’s like,
I just couldn'’t ignore
your message, you know?
Like, there'’s a lot of times
where I wanted to tell you
the truth, but it was just
really hard for me
to let that go, because, like,
became my rock.
I mean, you know my story.
You know everything
with my family.
- I don'’t even know
if that'’s true.
- It'’s true, though.
- Okay.
- It is true.
Like, everything'’s true.
- Coming out and telling me
the truth, I appreciate it,
but at the same time, like,
you knew for a year, like,
you'’re [bleep] me,
and I kind of feel like
you'’re playing
the victim card right now.
- I'’m not playing the victim.
I admit to everything I did.
- She doesn'’t know what
it'’s like to feel
like you right now
in this scenario,
however you felt yesterday.
- I don'’t want to go back
to those feelings
from yesterday,
but it obviously was
a [bleep] feeling.
I didn'’t mean for it to mean,
like, so angry,
but I was sad.
I did cry.
You know what I mean?
I [bleep] cried all last night.
To me it feels like
I'’m mourning a loss of somebody
that never even existed.
- And it'’s my fault.
[sniffles]
- Just give me some time,I guess.
And we'’ll go from there.
Like, I don'’t hate you.
It'’s definitely a huge
learning experience.
I just need some time.
- I do love you, though.
I, like, got mad love for you.
- Yeah.
- I'’m sorry; I just had
to throw that out there.
Like, if you would have
met me-me,
would you have dated me?
Like, me?
- I just feel like that--
you just completely [bleep]
any of that up.
- So I had a chance
once upon a time.
- Possibly.
- ♪ Beauty of my better half
♪ See it clearly looking back
♪ Could never be mine
♪ No, you'’ll never be mine,
love ♪
- I guess we'’ll just see
what happens.
- I think clearly
wherever we are with this
right now
is a pretty okay place.
- Yeah.
- I think that'’s a good place
to leave it.
- I agree.
- Joanna, can I have, like,
a hug?
- I don'’t really
want to give you a hug.
- No, that'’s cool.
- Okay.
[somber music]
♪
- You'’re good?
- I'’m good.
Bye.
- Bye.
- ♪ I told you everything
♪ In my dreams
♪ In your dreams
- That went better than
I expected.
♪
- That'’s got to be some sort
of relief.
- Yeah, I feel good.
I mean, It feels good.
Didn'’t expect her to be
so cool.
Hopefully we become friends
one day.
♪
[phone line trilling]
- Hey.
- Hey.
- How are you?
- I'’ve been good.
- So have you been in touch
at all with Ana?
- We actually have.
- Is there any possibility
you could see yourself
in the future
being with Ana?
- She'’s actually in
a relationship now,
and she'’s moved on.
I'’m just more like,
"Well, damn."
- You want what you can'’t have.
- [laughs]
- We'’re gonna call Ana now
and check in with her.
- Put in a good word in for me.
- Okay, we will.
- All right, Joanna.
both: Bye.
- See you guys later. Bye.
[phone line trilling]
both: Hey!
- There she is.
What'’s up, Ana?
- What'’s up?
- Tell us what'’s going on
with you.
- I'’m in a really happy
relationship.
- Really?
- Yeah.
It'’s pretty cool.
It'’s awesome.
- Whoa.
- [laughs]
- Well, is there anything
right now
that you'’d like to say
to Joanna?
- I'’m always gonna have love
for her.
I don'’t think that'’s
gonna change.
- Well, look, sounds like
you'’re doing well.
Happy you'’re in a relationship.
Glad you and Joanna
are still talking.
Who knows what might
happen there.
- You never know.
Check back in two months.
I might be in relationship
with her.
[laughs]
- Whoa.
[laughs]
All right, see ya.
- Take care.
- "I hope this relationship
is my last."
- She sent me a picture
of a ultrasound.
Then she had a miscarriage,
but she could still be pregnant.
- We could be dealing with
an entire family
catfishing one person.
- We don'’t know how many people
we'’re dealing with.
Someone'’s coming.
- I'’m coming right now.
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