Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 3, Episode 2 - Antwane & Tony - full transcript
Carmen is concerned about her cousin Antwane's 3-year romance with a man named Tony. Antwane lives a virtually pre-digital age existence making Tony's true identity difficult to reveal. Is Tony really who he says he is?
>> THIS LOOKS SPOOKY.
>> YEAH, THIS IS A STRANGE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THIS IS IT.
>> LET'S DO IT.
IT LOOKS ABANDONED.
THERE'S NO WINDOWS.
>> THIS DON'T MAKE NO DAMN
SENSE.
>> EVEN IF I KNOCK, I CAN'T OPEN
THE DOOR.
IT'S PADLOCKED.
>> [sighs]
THIS [bleep] IS [bleep] CRAZY.
>> THIS IS KIND OF SCARY.
THIS GUY COULD BE IN JAIL.
LET'S DO THIS.
>> JUST TWO GUYS ON A RED SOFA.
>> HEY, LET ME ASK YOU
SOMETHING, MAX.
WHEN YOU'RE SHAVING, ARE YOU IN
FRONT OF A MIRROR?
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
>> WHY, DID I MISS SOME SPOTS?
>> EH, JUST ONE SPOT.
IT'S NOT TOO BAD.
>> WHERE? WHERE?
>> JUST RIGHT THERE.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> THAT'S ALWAYS THE SPOT.
>> THAT'S THE ONE.
[both laugh]
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE'S A GOOD ONE.
SUBJECT: "MY COUSIN IS
GETTING CATFISHED."
WELL, IT'S A FAMILY AFFAIR.
"MY NAME IS CARMEN.
I'M 30 YEARS OLD AND LIVE IN
CINCINNATI, OHIO.
MY COUSIN'S NAME IS ANTWANE.
HE IS IN LOVE WITH A GUY NAMED
TONY EVEN THOUGH
THEY'VE NEVER MET."
>> HM.
>> "HE IS CONVINCED THAT TONY IS
THE ONE FOR HIM.
ALL I EVER HEAR IS HOW TONY IS
THE CHEESE TO HIS MACARONI.
BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW HE
CAN EVEN TRUST THE GUY.
PLUS, ANTWANE HAS NEVER EVEN
SEEN A PICTURE OF TONY."
>> * I CAME TO FIND
* YOUR LOVE UNDER THE SUN
>> "THE ONLY TIME THEY TALK IS
WHEN TONY CALLS, SO ANTWANE JUST
HAS TO WAIT BY THE PHONE."
>> DOES ANTWANE NOT HAVE
TONY'S NUMBER?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S HARD TO--
>> IT'S ALL ON TONY'S TERMS.
>> RIGHT.
"ANTWANE AND TONY HAVE BEEN
TALKING FOR THREE YEARS,
AND HE'S NEVER MADE AN EFFORT TO
COME TO CINCINNATI TO SEE HIM."
>> * WE'RE ALL ROSES *
* AND WE SHOULD NOT GO
>> "HE'S A VERY LOVABLE GUY,
BUT HE'S EASILY FOOLED."
>> HE'S A ROMANTIC.
>> "HE'S NEVER BEEN IN A REAL
RELATIONSHIP, AND HE'S IN DEEP
WITH TONY.
THIS DUDE IS LYING.
PLEASE HELP!
CARMEN."
>> THIS IS LIKE A CATFISH
INTERVENTION.
>> ANYWAY...
ALL RIGHT, GIVING HER A RING.
[computer chiming]
>> WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> both: HEY!
>> WOW.
>> I LOVE YOUR SCARF.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> WE ARE ALREADY--
>> JUST FORMULATING LOTS OF
QUESTIONS.
>> TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH YOUR COUSIN
ANTWANE.
>> OH, ANTWANE.
>> OH, LORD.
>> [laughs]
>> HE IS A VERY CARING AND
LOVING PERSON.
>> DO YOU KNOW HOW ANTWANE
AND TONY MET ORIGINALLY THREE
YEARS AGO?
>> CHAT ON PHONE CHAT LINE.
YOU COULD JUST CALL
YOUR LOCAL NUMBER.
YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY FROM
ANYWHERE.
>> MEET SINGLES IN YOUR--
>> SO THIS IS LIKE THOSE
LATE-NIGHT COMMERCIALS.
>> YEAH.
>> I KNOW YOU'D BEEN ON IT.
MAX, YOU'D BEEN ON THE CHATS.
>> I'VE BEEN ON IT.
>> [chuckles]
HAVE THEY VIDEO CHATTED?
>> NO.
HE DOESN'T DO COMPUTERS OR
ANYTHING.
>> SO HE DOESN'T--HE DOESN'T GO
ONLINE.
HE DOESN'T HAVE FACEBOOK.
NOTHING.
>> NO.
>> WOW.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'VE GOT
CONCERNS, AND YOU THINK THAT
THIS IS BULL[bleep], HE SAYS...
>> HE'S LIKE, "YOU'RE A HATER.
GET OUT OF MY BUSINESS."
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO
HELP LOOK OUT FOR MY COUSIN
'CAUSE HE DESERVES TO KNOW WHO
TONY IS.
>> WELL, HERE'S MY QUESTION.
IF WE COME AND MEET WITH
ANTWANE, LIKE, IS HE GONNA WANT
OUR HELP?
>> I TOLD HIM THAT I WROTE TO
YOU ALL.
>> OH, AND WHAT DID HE SAY?
>> HE WAS HAPPY.
HE WANTS THE HELP.
>> WELL, 'CAUSE HE WANTS
TO MEET TONY.
>> HE REALLY WANTS TO MEET TONY.
>> RIGHT.
HE DOESN'T NECESSARILY THINK
THAT HE NEEDS OUR HELP FIGURING
OUT IF TONY'S REAL, BUT HE WANTS
TO MEET HIM.
>> COME TO CINCINNATI.
SHOW US THE WAY.
Y'ALL KNOW THE WAY.
>> WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THIS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> SEE YOU SOON, CINCINNATI.
>> SEE YOU SOON.
>> BYE, CARMEN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CARMEN'S AMAZING.
>> I LOVE CARMEN.
>> I LOVE HER.
>> SO CINCINNATI.
>> YEAH, MAN.
>> HERE WE GO.
HEARTACHE IN THE HEARTLAND.
>> [sputters and laughs]
>> NO?
>> * 24/7 AND THE LIGHTS
* STAY ON
* YOU LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE
* AND I'LL MAKE A GOOD DRUNK *
* ALL RIGHT
>> A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF
MAKING THIS SHOW: NECK PILLOWS.
>> * I GOT THE TUNNEL VISION
* I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT
* THROUGH ONE MORE NIGHT
>> THE THING I'M MOST CURIOUS
ABOUT IS PROBABLY THIS CHAT LINE
THING BECAUSE I'VE SEEN
THE COMMERCIALS...
>> YOUR WHOLE LIFE.
>> AND ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT'S
THAT REALLY LIKE.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO MEET
CARMEN.
[knocking on door]
>> WHO'S KNOCKING ON MY DOOR
LIKE THAT?
>> IT'S FREEZING.
>> WHAT'S UP, COUSIN?
>> HEY!
>> HI, COME ON IN.
>> WOW.
>> IT'S COLD, ISN'T IT?
>> YEAH.
COME ON IN, GUYS.
>> CHECK THIS OUT.
>> OH, YEAH, I GOT SOME OF THIS.
COME TO GET SOME OF THIS ACTION.
>> OH, MY GOD, ARE YOU KIDDING?
WOW.
THIS IS FOR REAL?
>> THIS IS FOR REAL.
>> LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT.
>> I'M GONNA SURPRISE YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
COME ON. WHAT DO YOU GOT?
>> [laughs]
>> [laughs]
>> LOOK, I JUST KNOCKED HIM OUT.
>> WOW.
LET'S SIT DOWN AND GET
COMFORTABLE.
SO YOU GUYS ARE COUSINS.
>> WE'VE BEEN LIKE BROTHER
AND SISTER.
TWANE IS FLAMBOYANT.
HE'S ALWAYS THE CENTER OF
ATTENTION.
BUT HE'S OLD-FASHIONED.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A MEANS
TO A COMPUTER.
HE JUST IN A WORLD OF HIS SELF,
LIKE, IN HIS OWN COMFORTABLE
SPOT.
HE WON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET ON
GOOGLE.
>> WHAT IS CHAT LINE?
>> YEAH, WHAT IS--
>> CAN WE CALL?
CAN WE DO ONE RIGHT NOW?
>> YEAH.
>> THIS IS EXCITING.
>> YEAH.
>> SO DIAL [bleep].
>> THIS IS HEAT LINE.
WE'RE HOT MEETS SEXY.
beep!
THERE ARE 96 MEN ON THE LINE.
>> WOW.
>> SEE, I'M ABOUT TO TALK
TO HIM.
>> [laughs]
TALK TO HIM.
>> RECORD YOUR MESSAGE
AFTER THE TONE.
beep!
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
JUST LISTENED TO YOUR GREETING.
LIKE WHAT I HEARD.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, GET BACK
TO ME.
>> MESSAGE DELIVERED.
>> DO YOU ALWAYS CHANGE
YOUR VOICE?
>> YEAH, 'CAUSE I HAVE
A HEAVY VOICE.
I WANT THEM TO BE ATTRACTED
TO ME, YOU KNOW?
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK
HAVE FAKE NAMES...
>> 90% OF THEM.
>> MOST PEOPLE, RIGHT.
>> YEAH.
>> TONY DOES NOT HAVE
A FACEBOOK PAGE?
>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
>> NOT THAT YOU KNOW OF.
>> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT HIM.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT HIM.
>> FROM WHAT I HEARD, TONY'S
BEEN UP HERE A COUPLE TIMES AND
STILL HASN'T SEEN TWANE.
I WANT HIM TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO
HE TALKING TO.
>> EVEN IF IT MEANS FINDING OUT
THAT TONY'S LYING TO HIM.
>> WHATEVER.
I WANT HIM TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
>> I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET HIM.
>> SO LET'S DO IT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> * MY DEAR BROTHER
>> THIS IS THE VIP ESCORT.
ANTWANE, HERE WE COME.
>> * SHE JUST CALLED YOUR NAME
>> THE FACT THAT HE SAYS THAT
HE'S BEEN UP IN CINCINNATI AREA,
LIKE, A COUPLE TIMES IS
SUSPICIOUS.
SO I THINK THIS GUY TONY
ACTUALLY IS JUST IN CINCINNATI.
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S MY HUNCH.
[knocking on door]
OH, HERE HE COMES.
OH, THERE'S THAT SMILE.
>> HEY.
>> HELLO.
>> HI, COUSIN.
HI, Y'ALL.
>> WATCH OUT.
IT'S COOL THAT WE ALL COME IN?
>> YEAH, COME ON.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO IT.
>> I'M GONNA TRY TO WALK FIRST
'CAUSE MY JEANS A LITTLE TIGHT
AND THEY HURTING ME RIGHT NOW.
[laughter]
>> THIS HAIR IS INCREDIBLE.
>> IT'S BRAZILIAN.
IT'S GOT A BRAZILIAN STICKER ON
IT, YOU KNOW?
YOU JUST BUY IT AND STICK IT TO
YOUR SCALP.
>> SO TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF.
I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT
YOU, ALL GOOD THINGS.
>> RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT WORKING,
LOOKING FOR A JOB.
I BABYSIT SOMETIMES OR DO HAIR.
LOVE THE CLUB.
I LOVE FOOD.
I'M FAT, AND I'M PROUD OF IT.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF,
AND MY FAMILY LOVE ME,
SO I'M COOL WITH THAT,
AND I GOT GOOD FRIENDS.
>> WE'RE HERE ACTUALLY BECAUSE
CARMEN WAS CONCERNED ABOUT YOU.
>> RIGHT, 'CAUSE I'M SO IN LOVE.
I KNOW.
>> EVERY TIME THAT I ASK YOU
ABOUT TONY, IT'S ALWAYS,
I'M A HATER.
>> YOU IS.
>> YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST TRYING
TO LOOK OUT FOR YOU.
I DON'T WANT NOBODY TO PLAY YOU.
>> TRUE.
>> I'M SENSITIVE TO CERTAIN
THINGS AND YOU CARING.
>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU GUYS
ARE EACH OTHER'S BEST FRIENDS?
>> YEAH.
>> MM-HMM.
>> IF I NEED SOMETHING,
HE'S MY ROCK.
I'M HIS ROCK.
>> WHAT--WHAT KIND OF FEELINGS
DO YOU HAVE FOR THIS GUY?
>> I WANT TO BE WITH HIM.
I LOVE HIM, AND I CARE FOR HIM.
>> DOES HE EXPRESS THE SAME
FEELINGS FOR YOU?
>> MM-HMM.
>> DOES HE SAY HE'S GONNA, LIKE,
TAKE CARE OF YOU?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH?
>> TALKING ABOUT HOW HE'S GONNA
GET A HOUSE NOW, SO I'M READY.
* YOU BETTER KNOW IT HURTS
[laughs]
>> [laughs]
>> TELL US ABOUT GETTING ON CHAT
LINES AND HOW IT STARTED.
>> OH, GOODNESS.
OKAY, THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP
MEETING TONY.
THIS DEEP-ASS MOTHER[bleep]
VOICE, I SAID, "OH, HELL YEAH."
SO I GOT ON THERE.
WE JUST TALKING ON THE PHONE.
>> AT FIRST.
>> SO HE CALLED YOU FIRST FROM A
CINCINNATI AREA CODE.
>> RIGHT.
BUT HE SAID HE'S FROM ATLANTA,
SO...
THEN AFTER THAT, THINGS START
BEING, LIKE, THE PRIVATE NUMBER.
BUT I STILL REMEMBER THE
388-[bleep].
>> HE CALLS YOU, BUT HIS
NUMBER'S PRIVATE NOW.
>> RIGHT, IT'S JUST BEEN PRIVATE
SINCE THEN.
>> SO YOU ONLY SPEAK WHEN HE
CALLS YOU.
>> RIGHT.
>> HOW OFTEN DOES HE CALL YOU?
>> YESTERDAY.
HE AIN'T CALL ME TODAY.
>> HE CALLS YOU, LIKE,
ONCE A DAY.
>> YEAH.
WHEN HE GETS--I GUESS BECAUSE HE
SAY HE ALWAYS BUSY WITH THIS
CONSTRUCTION JOB, WHATEVER.
SO I MEAN, I COULD BELIEVE IT,
YOU KNOW?
>> DON'T YOU THINK IT'S WEIRD
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A PHONE
NUMBER TO CALL HIM AT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
HE WORK ALL THE TIME
CONSTRUCTION WORKER, SO YOU
KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME?
>> I DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME.
>> OH.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM?
>> YEAH, WHAT DO YOU ABOUT HIM?
HAVE YOU SEEN A PHOTOGRAPH OF
HIM?
>> NO.
>> NO. NOTHING.
>> JUST A VOICE.
>> HE COULD TEXT YOU A PICTURE.
>> I GOT OBAMA PHONE.
THEY LOW-INCOME PHONES,
SO YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING WITH
THEM BUT TALK.
>> SO HAS HE DESCRIBED WHAT HE
LOOKS LIKE?
>> YEAH, HE SAID HE'S TALL,
BROWN SKIN, YOU KNOW, BUFF.
>> SIX-PACK?
>> YEAH, BETTER BE 'CAUSE I
WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT BAD.
LIKE, 6'1".
>> SO HE'S PERFECT.
HE'S PERFECT-LOOKING.
>> RIGHT.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS
THAT HE'S LEFT YOU OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT?
>> YEAH, I GOT ONE.
[phone beeps]
>> SAVED MESSAGE.
>> END OF MESSAGE.
>> HOW HARD HAVE YOU TRIED TO
GET HIM TO MEET?
>> I ASK HIM EVERY TIME.
>> EVERY TIME YOU'RE ON
THE PHONE?
>> YES.
HE ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING TO DO.
WORK.
HE DON'T SAY NOTHING ELSE.
IT JUST BE WORK.
WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK,
WORK, WORK.
>> SO YOU TRUST IN HIM.
>> YEAH, I TRUST IN HIM.
>> YOU TRUST HIM MORE THAN YOU
TRUST ME?
>> YEAH.
>> OH, THAT SUCKS.
>> IF IT TURNS OUT THAT HE WAS
LYING, AND THAT HE DOESN'T LOOK
THE WAY YOU'D LIKE HIM TO OR
THAT YOU THOUGHT HE DID--
>> I'LL BE LIKE A VOLCANO.
I'MA EXPLODE.
I'M NOT PLAYING.
>> [sighs]
[trilling]
>> THIS HOW WE HUG.
>> WE'RE GONNA DO OUR HOMEWORK.
ALL RIGHT, HERE, GIVE ME A HUG,
WILL YOU?
>> AW, THAT'S NICE OF YOU.
BUT I'LL BE OKAY.
>> IF HE CALLS--
>> WAIT, WAIT, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE I HAVE THE NUMBER FOR HIS
NUMBER.
>> YEAH, YOU MEMORIZED IT,
RIGHT?
>> 388-[bleep].
>> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TALK TO YOU
LATER.
>> BYE, BUDDY.
>> SEE YOU.
>> THIS IS THE WEIRDEST,
SOMEHOW, EVER.
IT'S--HE'S CONSTRUCTED THIS
UNBELIEVABLE--
>> THE WHOLE FUTURE IS, LIKE--
IS WORKED OUT.
>> WILD.
>> * CLAP, CLAP
* CLAP YOUR HANDS
* AND MAKE MONEY
* BRING HOME THE BREAD
* AND YOU STILL STAY HUNGRY
* CLAP, CLAP, CLAP YOUR HANDS
* AND MAKE MONEY
>> THIS IS GREAT.
>> A STOREROOM.
>> YEAH, WOW, LOOK AT THIS.
>> WHAT'S FUNNY ABOUT THIS
INVESTIGATION, NEV...
>> WHAT'S SO FUNNY?
>> IS THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO
DO WITH THE INTERNET.
I MEAN, WE'LL USE THE INTERNET
TO LOOK UP THE PHONE NUMBER, BUT
ESSENTIALLY THIS WHOLE EPISODE
COULD HAVE TAKE PLACE IN 1990.
AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU
THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CATFISHING
PEOPLE SINCE THE DAWN OF
CIVILIZATION.
BRIEF RECAP: CARMEN REACHED OUT
TO US BECAUSE HER COUSIN ANTWANE
HAS BEEN IN A RELATIONSHIP
FOR THREE YEARS WITH A GUY
HE'S JUST BEEN TALKING TO
ON THE PHONE.
>> HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS PHONE
NUMBER.
HE DOESN'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME.
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.
HE KNOWS BASICALLY NOTHING ABOUT
HIM EXCEPT THAT HIS NAME IS
TONY, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE
SAYS HIS NAME IS.
>> AT THE VERY BEGINNING, HE HAD
A PHONE NUMBER FOR TONY.
BUT EVER SINCE THEN, THEY
HAVEN'T BEEN USING THAT PHONE
NUMBER, AND TONY HAS CALLED HIM
FROM A PRIVATE NUMBER.
SO IF ANTWANE WANTS TO TALK TO
TONY, HE HAS TO WAIT FOR TONY TO
CALL HIM FROM A PRIVATE NUMBER.
SO HERE WE GO.
WE HAVE ONE THING TO LOOK UP.
THE ONE PHONE NUMBER HE HAS FOR
TONY, WHO'S OSTENSIBLY FROM
ATLANTA, IS A 513 AREA CODE
PHONE NUMBER WHICH IS A
CINCINNATI AREA CODE.
>> I'M GONNA GO SPOKEO,
PUTTING IN THE NUMBER THAT
ANTWANE GAVE US.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS ALL WE GOT,
SO PUTTING A LOT ON THIS THING.
>> PRESS THE BUTTON.
>> I'M GONNA CLICK WITH MY
FINGERS CROSSED.
>> CLICK IT.
>> NOTHING.
>> OH.
>> OH, DEVASTATING.
>> HOLD ON.
>> THE INVESTIGATION'S OVER.
>> HOLD ON.
>> I HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED MY
CAPPUCCINO.
>> WE CAN GOOGLE THE NUMBER.
WHAT IS THIS?
SO THIS NUMBER IS REGISTERED TO
A DIANA THOMAS IN CINCINNATI.
>> SO WE HAVE AN ADDRESS
AND A NAME.
OKAY, WE MIGHT HAVE A HIT HERE.
>> THIS COULD BE SOMETHING.
>> SEARCH FOR HER.
DIANA THOMAS, CINCINNATI.
>> LET'S GO SPOKEO AGAIN.
IT'S A DIFFERENT ADDRESS FOR
DIANA THOMAS.
>> OH, LOOK, WHO'S THAT?
>> THERE'S A RELATIVE LISTED FOR
DIANA NAMED ANTHONY THOMAS.
>> THAT WOULD BE TONY.
SO WE HAVE A HIT.
ANTHONY.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES?
TONY THOMAS, A RELATIVE OF
DIANA.
>> SO WE HAVE AN ADDRESS FOR
THIS ANTHONY THOMAS CHARACTER.
IT'S [bleep] VINE STREET.
>> THIS IS PRETTY BIG.
>> YEAH.
IT'S A STRANGE CONNECTION,
BUT IT'S SOMETHING.
>> BUT IT'S--IT'S A CONNECTION.
>> OKAY, SO HOLD ON A SECOND.
LET'S JUST SEARCH FOR
ANTHONY THOMAS.
"ANTHONY THOMAS, CINCINNATI."
OKAY.
MUG SHOT, ANTHONY THOMAS.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT
COMES UP.
>> YEAH, BUSTED IN 2011 WHEN
THIS RELATIONSHIP STARTED.
>> JEEZ.
>> LOOK, WE FOUND THE PICTURE OF
A GUY WHO WAS ARRESTED RIGHT
AROUND THE TIME THAT ANTWANE
STARTED TALKING TO TONY.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS GUY
HAD THIS PHONE NUMBER...
>> RIGHT.
>> GOT ARRESTED SOON THEREAFTER.
THE PHONE WAS TAKEN AWAY,
THE NUMBER DISCONNECTED,
AND NOW--
>> HE'S CALLING FROM A PRIVATE
PRISON.
>> NOW HE'S CALLING FROM A
PAY PHONE IN JAIL.
>> LET'S SEE IF CALLING FROM
PRISON--
>> YEAH, WHAT DOES IT COME UP AS
ON CALLER I.D.?
>> BIG JAILS USE V.O.I.P.
SO THE CALLER I.D. WOULD MOST
LIKELY SHOW UP AS PRIVATE
SINCE IT'S A VPN.
OKAY, SO PHONE CALLS FROM PRISON
SHOW UP AS EITHER UNAVAILABLE
OR PRIVATE.
THERE IS A REAL CHANCE THIS GUY
COULD BE IN JAIL.
>> WE ONLY HAVE ONE CARD
TO PLAY HERE...
>> RIGHT.
>> AND THAT'S CALLING THE NUMBER
AND SEEING WHO PICKS UP.
>> THAT ANTWANE GAVE US.
WHAT HAPPENS IF TONY PICKS UP?
>> YOU SAY--
>> HEY, WE'RE FRIENDS WITH
ANTWANE.
I'M TRYING TO FINALLY HELP SET
UP A MEETING FOR YOU GUYS.
HERE WE GO.
>> THE NUMBER YOU ARE CALLING
IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
>> SO IT'S A DISCONNECTED
PHONE NUMBER.
>> GREAT.
WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENED
WHEN ANTWANE TRIED IT.
>> WHEN HE TRIES TO CALL.
>> CONSIDERING THE UNUSUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANTWANE'S
RELATIONSHIP AND THAT HE CAN'T
CALL TONY, IT'S NOT RIDICULOUS
TO THINK THAT MAYBE TONY'S IN
A MINIMUM SECURITY PRISON.
IT'S A LEAD.
ANTWANE HAS BEEN SO WRAPPED UP
IN HIS LOVE AFFAIR, HE HASN'T
ACTUALLY REALLY TAKEN THE TIME
TO CONSIDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES
AND WHAT HE'S INVOLVED IN.
SO LET'S JUST BE REALLY CAREFUL
WITH THIS GUY.
TONY COULD BE ANYBODY.
>> GIVE ANTWANE
A RING-A-DING DONG.
[phone line ringing]
>> YO, ANTWANE.
IT'S MAX AND NEV.
>> WE'RE HEADING OVER.
>> WE WANT TO TALK THROUGH WHAT
OUR OPTIONS ARE.
IS THAT COOL?
[knocking on door]
>> COME IN.
>> WELL, LET'S GO OVER IT.
WHAT'S THAT?
>> PROCEED.
>> PROCEED.
>> [laughs]
THE ONLY REAL PIECE OF
INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD WAS THE
PHONE NUMBER THAT YOU REMEMBERED
FROM WHEN YOU GUYS FIRST MET.
>> MM-HMM.
>> WE SEARCHED IT ON THIS
WEBSITE CALLED SPOKEO.
THIS IS WHAT IT CAME BACK WITH.
UNFORTUNATELY NO NAME,
NO GENDER, NO AGE.
THE NEXT THING WE DID WAS, WE
JUST DID A SEARCH FOR THAT PHONE
NUMBER, AND IT SHOWED UP FOR
DIANA THOMAS.
WE SCROLLED DOWN.
THERE'S A LITTLE FAMILY
BACKGROUND AREA WHERE
IT SHOWS RELATIVES.
SEE ANYTHING STRANGE?
>> I SEE AN ANTHONY.
>> WELL, THERE'S A REALLY GOOD
CHANCE THAT HIS NAME IS ACTUALLY
ANTHONY BUT THAT
HE GOES BY TONY.
>> THAT'S COMMON SENSE.
>> RIGHT, OKAY.
SO THEN WE JUST DID A SEARCH FOR
ANTHONY THOMAS, CINCINNATI.
AND THE FIRST THING THAT CAME UP
WAS THIS.
>> WHAT THE HELL?
>> IT'S A MUG SHOT FOR A GUY
NAMED ANTHONY THOMAS
FROM CINCINNATI.
IT'S POSSIBLE
THAT HE COULD BE IN JAIL NOW
AND CALLING YOU FROM PRISON.
>> I WAS ABOUT TO GIVE UP.
CHANGE MY PHONE NUMBER AND
EVERYTHING, 'CAUSE THIS IS
TOO MUCH.
I KNOW ONE THING.
I'M SCARED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
>> JUST CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT YOU.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT, YOU KNOW,
I DO CARE FOR YOU.
I DO WANT TO SEE YOU.
I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET YOU.
[gentle acoustic guitar music]
>> * I'VE BEEN MEANING *
* TO TALK TO YOU
* NOW THERE IS NO TIME TO LIVE
>> I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT
ALONE.
I'M NOT ABOUT TO EVEN GO STRESS
MYSELF OUT.
I'M NOT ABOUT TO DO IT.
>> AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS
FOR SURE.
IT'S JUST ALL WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO FIND.
BASICALLY NOW IT'S JUST A COUPLE
NAMES AND SOME ADDRESSES.
>> * I'M NOT LETTING GO *
>> MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK TO HIM.
>> WHATEVER HE GOT WAS GONE.
>> IT'S TIME TO JUST MEET THE
GUY SO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS,
TONY OR NOT, SO THAT YOU CAN
REALLY MOVE ON FOR YOURSELF.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> SLAM BAM.
>> [laughs]
>> SLAM BAM.
>> MAN, POOR ANTWANE.
HE'S LITERALLY HANGING ON
BY A THREAD.
>> I'M GONNA CALL ANTWANE.
>> YEAH.
[line ringing]
>> HELLO.
>> HEY, BUDDY.
>> HEY.
>> DID YOU GET A CALL BY ANY
CHANCE FROM TONY?
>> HE DIDN'T.
WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY
ARRIVE AT YOUR HOUSE IN ABOUT
15 MINUTES.
RIGHT.
>> I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS
WE CAN DO.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT
ADDRESSES.
I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO SORT OF
BE PROACTIVE, CHECK OUT THOSE
ADDRESSES, TALK TO SOME PEOPLE,
SEE IF ANYBODY KNOWS TONY.
>> CALL A CONSTRUCTION WORKER.
>> YEAH, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'LL
FIND?
>> I'M TIRED OF BEING NICE.
IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS.
I'M TIRED.
>> YOU READY TO BUST DOWN
SOME DOORS?
>> LET'S GO!
>> * WHAT KIND OF MAN
* KIND OF MAN, MAN
* ARE YOU, BOY?
*
* I'VE NEVER SEEN YOUR KIND *
* KIND BEFORE
>> I HAVE A LIST OF THREE
ADDRESSES FROM SPOKEO.
WE MIGHT GO TO ONE
OF THESE ADDRESSES,
AND TONY MIGHT ANSWER.
SINCE WE'RE ON VINE STREET,
I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH
THE VINE STREET ADDRESS.
>> I HAVE BUTTERFLIES IN MY
STOMACH.
>> WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.
DO YOU KNOW THIS AREA?
>> THIS IS DOWNTOWN, THE GHETTO.
>> 3 [bleep] 5.
[bleep].
>> THERE IT IS, [bleep].
LET'S GIVE THIS A WHIRL.
ALL RIGHT, SO THERE'S NO NAMES.
WE COULD JUST BUZZ AND ASK IF
ANYONE'S HOME, RIGHT?
>> WHY DON'T--THAT'S CRAZY TO
JUST RING RANDOM PEOPLE BUZZING.
>> IT'S NOT THAT CRAZY.
[electronic warbling tone]
SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO BREAK SOME
EGGS TO MAKE AN OMELET.
YEAH, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING
FOR TONY.
>> IS THIS ANTHONY THOMAS?
>> HE SAID THE WRONG DOOR.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> ARE YOU DIANA?
>> NO, I'M NOT DIANA.
>> OH, SORRY.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE
NAMED DIANA THOMAS.
>> DIANA THOMAS?
>> OR ANTHONY THOMAS.
>> NO.
>> DO YOU HAVE SOME MAILBOXES
IN THERE?
>> YEAH.
>> NO ONE NAMED THOMAS, RIGHT?
>> IT'S NOT--THAT'S NOT ME.
>> SO YEAH, OKAY.
>> NEXT ADDRESS.
>> THERE IT IS, THE RED ONE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT VERY INVITING.
>> RIGHT, SO THEY PROBABLY GOT
A DOG.
CUJO GONNA COME OUT.
>> YOU GUYS WANT TO WAIT HERE?
I'LL GO KNOCK.
>> YEAH.
>> GOOD LUCK, BUDDY.
>> THERE'S PEOPLE IN THERE.
>> THERE ARE?
[expectant music]
*
>> HELLO.
>> HI.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> FINE.
>> MY NAME IS NEV.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR DIANA
THOMAS.
>> I'M DIANA.
>> OH, GREAT.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE NAMED
ANTHONY THOMAS, AND YOUR NAMES
ARE CONNECTED.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU KNOW WHO
THAT IS.
>> NO.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A RELATIVE
OR YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANYONE
NAMED TONY OR ANTHONY?
>> YOUR DAD'S LAST NAME IS
THOMAS, BUT YOURS IS NOT?
>> NO.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP OUR
FRIEND MEET TONY.
>> WELL, THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S
A DEAD END.
>> BACK IN THE CAR.
>> SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HIDING
SOMETHING.
>> I THINK SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
HIDING SOMETHING.
>> I THINK SHE WAS.
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE.
WE GOT ONE MORE LOCATION TO GO,
GUYS.
>> THIS LOOKS SPOOKY.
>> LOOKS ABANDONED.
>> I MEAN, IT COULD BE THAT THIS
IS AN ABANDONED HOUSE.
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> LET'S CHECK IT OUT.
>> THERE'S NO WINDOWS.
GUNSHOTS.
IT'S BEEN SALTED.
>> "THIS LETTER IS A NOTICE OF
VIOLATION IN ORDER ISSUED
PURSUANT TO BUILDING CODE."
SO WHOEVER DID LIVE HERE,
WE MISSED THEM BY A MONTH.
>> THIS DON'T MAKE NO DAMN
SENSE.
>> SOMEBODY GOT TO LIVE HERE.
>> EVEN IF I KNOCK, I CAN'T OPEN
THE DOOR.
IT'S PADLOCKED.
>> [sighs]
THIS [bleep] IS [bleep] CRAZY.
[tense music]
*
>> THIS IS KIND OF SCARY.
>> SO THAT'S IT.
THOSE WERE OUR THREE ADDRESSES.
>> NO MORE ADDRESSES?
>> THAT WAS IT.
WELL, LET'S GET BACK IN THE CAR.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> IT'S COLD.
>> LET'S GO.
>> I DON'T WANT TO GET BACK IN
THE CAR.
I WANT TO FIND SOMETHING.
>> I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING
EVERYTHING WE CAN.
>> TWANE, THE REASON WHY YOU
[bleep] STUPID IDIOT CAN NEVER
FIND WHO TONY IS
BECAUSE I'M TONY.
>> WHAT'S HAP--WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> WHY THE [bleep]
WOULD YOU DO THAT?
>> BECAUSE...
>> THREE MOTHER[bleep] YEARS.
THAT AIN'T [bleep] COOL.
>> YOU GET MAD FOR THAT LITTLE
BIT OF BULL[bleep] THOUGH?
THAT'S [bleep] UP.
>> THAT'S LIFE.
DEAL WITH IT.
>> WAIT A SECOND.
>> OH, WELL.
>> FOR REAL, THREE YEARS?
I'M THINKING IT'S TONY.
YOU AIN'T NO [bleep] TONY.
>> SO [bleep] WHAT? IT'S LIFE.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
>> THERE AIN'T NO MOTHER[bleep]
LIFE.
THAT'S BULL[bleep].
>> THAT'S NOT BULL[bleep].
>> IT'S OVER.
DON'T TALK TO ME EVER NO MORE,
AND I MEAN THAT [bleep].
>> IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT
FOLLOWING ME WITH THAT DAMN
CAMERA?
>> OKAY, I WANT A LOT OF SPACE.
LIKE...
>> PLEASE.
>> LIKE, TEN TIMES MORE SPACE.
>> I DON'T EVEN FEEL LIKE
TALKING ABOUT THIS BULL[bleep].
DON'T PLAY ME LIKE THAT.
AND I'M GOING AROUND FOR THREE
PEOPLE IN MOTHER[bleep]
HOUSES, THINKING ABOUT SEEING
[bleep] TONY.
HER FAT ASS PLAYING.
>> COME OVER HERE.
>> SO WHAT?
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?
>> COME OVER HERE.
>> I DON'T EVEN FEEL LIKE
TALKING ABOUT THIS BULL[bleep].
GONNA PLAY ME LIKE THAT.
NOW I'M GOING AROUND FOR THREE
PEOPLE IN MOTHER[bleep] HOUSES,
THINKING I'M ABOUT TO
SEE [bleep] TONY.
I JUST WANT TO GO HOME.
I'M GOING HOME.
I'M CHANGING MY NUMBER ON EVERY
MOTHER[bleep] THING,
AND I MEAN THAT.
>> SO THIS IS, WHAT, PAYBACK?
>> YES. PAYBACKS.
PAYBACKS.
>> FOR WHAT? FOR WHAT?
>> PAYBACKS ARE SO FUNNY.
IT'S SO FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE
HE--HE TALK ABOUT ME IN FRONT
OF, LIKE, EVERYBODY, SO I WAS
WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT,
AND THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOMENT.
>> WELL, I THINK I SHARE YOUR
CONFUSION, DISAPPOINTMENT,
AND DISGUST.
HERE, DO YOU WANT TO GET
IN THE CAR?
>> HELL YEAH, I WANT TO GET IN
THE CAR.
TAKE THE MOTHER[bleep]
CAMERAS OFF OF ME.
>> GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.
>> I WANT TO GO HOME.
>> YOU CAN SIT IN THE FRONT.
I'M--I'M SORRY.
>> WHAT VOICE ARE YOU USING TO
TALK TO HIM?
>> THE TONY VOICE.
JUST CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT YOU.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT, YOU KNOW,
I DO CARE FOR YOU.
I WANT TO SEE YOU.
I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET YOU.
THE TONY VOICE.
HE NEVER ACTUALLY TALKED TO TONY
ON THE CHAT LINE, BUT HE FELT
LIKE HE DID BECAUSE I CALLED HIM
LIKE, "YOU MET ME OFF THE CHAT
LINE," 'CAUSE HE'S ALWAYS ON
THERE, AND HE GIVES
HIS NUMBER OUT.
SO I STARTED [bleep]
TALKING TO HIM.
>> SO HE NEVER TALKED TO ANYONE
NAMED TONY ON THE CHAT LINE.
>> NO.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM FOR
THREE YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN WITH
HIM THREE YEARS.
TALK TO HIM. BE WITH HIM.
TALK TO HIM. BE WITH HIM.
INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY THAT WE
KNOW, NOW THE WORLD CAN SEE.
LIKE, IT'S ONE STEP.
IT'S ONE NOTCH UP.
>> WELL, WHAT DID HE SAY?
HOW DID IT START?
>> IT'S ONE NOTCH UP.
THAT I WAS A FAT,
HUNGRY KELLY PRICE.
EVERY LITTLE THING THAT
HUMILIATES SOMEBODY HE HAS SAID
TO ME.
THE BEST WAY I KNEW HOW TO GET
HIM BACK IS, I KNOW THAT HE'D BE
ON THE CHAT LINE.
THE JOKE WAS ALWAYS ON ME.
HA, HA.
SO NOW THE JOKE IS ON HIM.
>> YOU KIND OF--YOU USED US AND
KIND OF WASTED OUR TIME TO--
TO GET BACK AT YOUR COUSIN
FOR SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT YOU
THREE YEARS AGO?
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S--
>> IT'S NOT LIKE--
>> THAT'S JUST LAME.
>> THAT'S NOT LAME.
ACTUALLY IT'S GOOD.
>> IT'S LAME.
NO, IT'S LAME.
>> I CATFISH EVERY SINGLE
PERSON.
I FAKE AND ACT LIKE OTHER
PEOPLE, SO...
>> SO YOU DO THAT A LOT?
>> I DO THAT A LOT, AND I'M GOOD
AT IT.
>> WELL, WE KNOW YOU'RE A GOOD
LIAR.
>> EVEN GOT YOU TWO.
>> WAS THIS MORE ABOUT JUST SORT
OF GETTING ATTENTION FOR YOU
THAN IT WAS ABOUT--
>> SHE COULD HAVE BEEN ON ANY
SHOW, BUT SHE CHOSE US TO BESTOW
UPON US HER GENIUS.
>> IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL
TO Y'ALL.
I KNOW IT'S PERSONAL TO Y'ALL
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT Y'ALL DO.
>> SCREW US FOR A SECOND.
WHAT ABOUT ANTWANE?
>> YEAH.
>> YOUR COUSIN, YOUR BLOOD.
>> BUT I KNOW ANTWANE.
>> WHO YOU PUBLICLY HUMILIATED.
>> THREE MOTHER[bleep]
YEARS, THOUGH.
THAT'S SOME [bleep]
BULL[bleep].
I GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS
BULL[bleep].
SHE DO SOME STUPID-ASS [bleep].
WHAT A FATASS.
>> IT WAS A HOUSE FULL OF PEOPLE
WHEN HE DID ME.
YOU KNOW, SO WORLD FULL OF
PEOPLE WHEN I DID HIM.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A CATFISH
IS TO MAKE THE PERSON BELIEVE
AND TRUST IN THE PERSON THAT
THEY THINK THEY ARE.
>> GENERALLY IT'S TO FALL IN
LOVE WITH SOMEONE.
>> GENERALLY IT'S NOT--
CATFISHING IS NOT ALL ABOUT
FALLING IN LOVE.
THAT'S NOT--
>> WELL, WHAT ARE YOU USING IT
FOR?
>> THAT'S Y'ALL DEFINITION.
>> I MEAN, THIS IS PATHETIC.
>> NO, THIS IS NEW.
SOMETHING NEW FOR YOU ALL.
>> WHAT IF ANTWANE NEVER WANTED
TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN AND DIDN'T?
WOULD THAT BE SUCCESS?
>> NO, IT WOULD JUST--I STILL
WOULD PROVE MY POINT.
>> BUT WOULDN'T THAT SUCK
FOR YOU?
>> IT WOULD. IT WOULD.
>> IT WOULD BE A BUMMER, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, IT WOULD, BUT--
>> IT COULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH, IT COULD HAPPEN.
BUT I KNOW IT WON'T HAPPEN.
>> I'M SO GLAD YOU GOT TO BE ON
TV, AND EVERYONE'S GONNA LOVE
YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THE QUEEN
OF CATFISH.
>> ARE YOU GONNA BE MAD?
>> IT'S JUST KIND OF LAME.
JUST LAME.
I'M COLD.
[cynical rock music]
*
>> HE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.
>> THERE'S SOME [bleep] UP
PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD,
I'M TELLING YOU.
I'M [bleep] UP.
>> MAX, DID YOU TELL HER TO GET
A RIDE WITH THE PRODUCER?
>> YEAH.
[knocking on door]
>> WE'RE NOT IN THERE,
AND I DON'T BLAME HIM.
>> GIVE HIM HIS SPACE FOR NOW?
>> YEAH.
>> LET'S GO.
LET'S GO OVER TO CARMEN,
THE MASTERMIND.
I THINK FAME, IN A LOT OF
PEOPLE'S MINDS, EQUALS SUCCESS.
INFAMOUS MEANS FAMOUS FOR BEING
BAD, AND I THINK THAT ON OUR
SHOW, SOMEONE LIKE CARMEN IS
GRABBING AT THAT KIND OF FAME.
WE SHOULD TALK TO HER THE WAY WE
WOULD TALK TO HER IF THE CAMERAS
WEREN'T ROLLING.
>> HELLO.
>> I WANT TO HEAR THE THING THAT
YOU'VE BEEN THINKING THAT YOU
WERE GOING TO SAY.
I WANT TO HEAR IT.
I WANT TO HEAR HOW GOOD IT IS.
>> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
>> I KNOW.
>> YOU HAVE ALL YOU HAVE ANYWAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A
CONCLUSION TO HOW A PERSON IS.
>> BUT WHAT'S YOUR STORY?
>> I [bleep] CATFISH PEOPLE,
AND I'M COOL WITH IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE COOL
WITH IT, THOUGH.
>> I WAS JUST WONDER, THOUGH,
ARE YOU--YOU'RE PROUD OF IT?
>> YEAH, I'M PROUD OF MYSELF,
'CAUSE I DO A DAMN GOOD JOB.
WHY ARE YOU GONNA WASTE
YOUR BREATH SAYING ANYTHING TO
ME ANYMORE?
>> I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE
OTHER PEOPLE FEEL LIKE [bleep].
>> THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.
>> YOU PUT PEOPLE IN POSITIONS
TO MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE [bleep].
ADMIT IT.
>> WELL, YOU FELL FOR IT,
DIDN'T YOU?
I MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE [bleep]
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE
THEY ALREADY IS [bleep].
>> DID I WANT TO?
I WANTED TO FEEL LIKE [bleep]?
>> THEY'RE ALREADY [bleep].
>> DID I WANT TO FEEL LIKE
[bleep]?
>> YOU ALREADY [bleep].
YOU AIN'T [bleep].
>> THAT--YOUR ARGUMENT IS, YOU
AIN'T [bleep].
YOU ALREADY [bleep]"?
>> GREAT.
>> I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE SHE
DESERVES THE COUCH TIME.
>> WELL, I'M SORRY
THAT I LOST MY TEMPER.
I FELT MANIPULATED, AND I FELT
SORT OF TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
I'M JUST CURIOUS--HAVE YOU EVER
CONSIDERED THAT MAYBE
YOU'RE A COMPULSIVE LIAR?
>> I KNOW I'M A COMPULSIVE LIAR.
>> OH. OKAY.
>> OH, YEAH.
BUT THE GREATEST LIARS WORK IN
THE BIGGEST COMPANIES.
>> YOU'RE TOO SMART TO BE DOING
WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I THINK
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY
YOU WANTED TO COME ON THE SHOW
BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO TELL
EVERYONE AND YOUR FRIENDS THAT
YOU'RE SMARTER THAN THE WORLD
GIVES YOU CREDIT FOR BEING.
AND YET THE THING THAT YOU
WANT TO PROMOTE, THE THING THAT
YOU WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR,
IS THIS NEGATIVE THING.
>> THAT'S FOR MY FIVE MINUTES
OF FAME.
>> WHY?
>> WHEN YOU APPROACH SOMEBODY
WITH THE OPPORTUNITY, THEY'D
WANT TO DO ANYTHING JUST TO BE
ON TV FOR THAT MOMENT,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> WHY?
WHAT IS IT ABOUT BEING ON TV?
>> IT'S JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ON
TV MAKE THE WORLD LOOK
A DIFFERENT WAY
TO PEOPLE THAT'S NOT.
>> BUT THERE'S FAME FOR DOING
GOOD THINGS, AND THERE'S FAME
FOR DOING BAD THINGS.
RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A
SMALL AMOUNT OF FAME FOR DOING
SOMETHING BAD.
YOU TOOK THREE YEARS COLDLY
TAKING REVENGE ON YOUR COUSIN
AND BEST FRIEND, AND YOU JUST
BLASTED HIM ON TELEVISION.
>> BUT HOW DO YOU--HOW DO YOU
REALLY FEEL INSIDE RIGHT NOW?
>> I'M ANGRY.
THAT'S...
I'M JUST ANGRY, AND I'M TIRED.
>> OKAY.
>> THAT'S IT, BECAUSE I'VE
CREATED ANOTHER VERSION OF--THAT
I AM NOT, YOU KNOW?
>> WELL, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
THAT PERSON?
>> I LIKE HER SOMETIMES.
>> DO YOU WANT TO BE CLOSE WITH
ANTWANE AGAIN?
>> YEAH.
>> IF YOU UNDERESTIMATED
ANTWANE AND HE NEVER DOES WANT
TO BE YOUR FRIEND AGAIN,
YOU LOST YOUR BEST FRIEND.
[somber indie pop music]
>> * YOU'RE PUSHING DOWN *
* ON MY SHOULDERS
*
* AND EMPTYING MY LUNGS
>> ARE YOU SORRY?
>> I'M MORE SORRY NOW
THAN I THOUGHT IT OUT TO BE
WHEN I FIRST DID IT.
BUT AT FIRST I WASN'T, BECAUSE
IT WAS JUST TOTALLY REVENGE.
IT'S, LIKE, SORT OF LIKE
AN ADDICTION, AND I'VE BEEN
DOING IT FOR SO LONG, I NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
>> OKAY.
>> I HOPE ONE DAY
YOU AND ANTWANE ARE OKAY.
>> * AND I HATE THAT I CAN'T *
* SAY YOUR NAME
* WITHOUT FEELING LIKE
* I'M PART OF THE BLAME *
* AND IT'S NEVER GONNA FEEL *
* QUITE THE SAME
* BUT IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE *
>> THIS EPISODE OF
CATFISH THE TV SHOW
CONTINUES NOW.
ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK
WE SHOULD GET ANTWANE.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD JUST TO
GET HIM OUT OF HIS PLACE.
>> LET'S TAKE HIM OUT.
>> * GOT A BEAT-UP MATCHBOOK
* HALF A BOTTLE OF GIN
* TWO HOURS IN THE CAR
* OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE
* I DON'T WANT TO GO IN *
* 50-SOME YEARS OLD
* YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I'M 25 *
>> YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF
YOUR JACKET?
I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU BE
A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
I DO THINK THERE'S
AN OPPORTUNITY
AS--AS--THIS IS MY JOB.
>> I SEE.
>> RIGHT.
AND I DON'T ALWAYS LIKE IT,
AND I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE WAY
SHE'S HANDLED THE SITUATION.
I FEEL REALLY [bleep] THAT
I UNKNOWINGLY PUT YOU IN
THIS SITUATION.
>> I DON'T GIVE A [bleep]
WHAT THE CASE MAY BE.
NOW IT'S ON [bleep] TV.
EVERYBODY ALWAYS CAPPING
ON HER ASS.
SHE SHOULD HAVE PUT THEIR ASS ON
ON TV.
Y'ALL PICKED ME.
ONLY THING THAT I'M PISSED OFF
ABOUT--THIS TYPE OF SITUATION,
TRUE ENOUGH, BUT MY COUSIN--
THAT'S A FAMILY MEMBER,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
YOU DON'T DO THAT.
>> BECAUSE SHE DID THIS,
AND BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT EVERY
RIGHT TO BE PISSED AT HER FOR
THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, IT'D BE
VERY EASY TO FORGET WHY YOU FELL
IN LOVE WITH TONY.
>> I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT TONY.
IT'S OVER.
THAT'S GOOD THAT I FOUND OUT
THAT IT WAS HER.
THAT'S GOOD.
NOW I CAN DO WHAT THE [bleep]
I WANT TO DO.
>> WELL, TAKE YOUR TIME
AND LET IT, YOU KNOW--
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET IT BE YOUR EXPERIENCE,
AND DON'T--DON'T TAKE THIS
EXPERIENCE AS A SETBACK.
THINK OF IT AS A PUSH FORWARD.
BUT DON'T RUN AWAY FROM IT.
SOMETIMES THE BEST THING YOU CAN
DO IS JUST SIT IN
AN EXPERIENCE--
>> I'VE DONE SAT ENOUGH.
>> I KNOW.
WELL, I KNOW.
>> I DONE SAT ENOUGH.
>> BUT THIS JUST HAPPENED
YESTERDAY, SO--
>> IT'S AFTER ME TO JUST FLY
AROUND THIS BUG LIKE A [bleep]
JET.
>> EXACTLY.
SO YOU'VE BEEN--EXACTLY.
YOU GOT IT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.
THAT'S IT.
>> I DO.
IT'S [bleep] UP, THOUGH.
I'MA KEEP SAYING THAT.
>> I KNOW.
>> [sighs]
BYE.
>> TAKE SOME BABY STEPS
TO INFORM YOURSELF
ON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO.
>> YEAH, BUT THAT [bleep]
THOUGH.
AIN'T NOBODY TRYING TO DO THAT.
>> THERE HE IS.
>> OH.
>> HI.
>> HEY, HANDSOME.
>> WHAT'S UP?
>> WHAT'VE YOU BEEN DOING?
>> I WEIGHED UP THE JOB AT THE
COUNTY, SO...
>> WHAT JOB?
>> IT'S, LIKE, JANITORIAL, BUT
THEY'RE PAYING, LIKE, $10 AN
HOUR.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> NICE.
>> WHOA.
>> YOU'VE STOPPED TALKING TO HER
COMPLETELY?
>> IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
I'M NOT JUST GONNA RUSH
AND DO IT WHEN YOU'RE WRONG.
I AIN'T WRONG.
>> ANY UPDATES ON
THE ROMANTIC FRONT?
>> RIGHT NOW I'VE JUST BEEN
TALKING TO PEOPLE.
THAT'S IT.
POPULAR.
>> BUT NO MORE TALKING TO PEOPLE
ON CHAT LINES?
>> NO CHAT LINES, NONE OF THAT.
[laughter]
>> TAKE IT EASY, BUDDY.
>> YOU TOO.
>> WOW.
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO.
>> NICE.
I LIKE YOUR HAIR, CARMEN.
>> OH, THANK YOU.
>> HOW'S IT GOING?
>> YOU ALL TAKING ME FROM MY GYM
TIME, YOU KNOW THAT?
>> OH, SORRY.
>> YOU'VE BEEN WORKING OUT?
>> I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE GYM
THREE TIMES A WEEK...
>> WOW.
THAT'S AMAZING.
>> FOR ALMOST A MONTH NOW.
>> YOU HAVEN'T BEEN CATFISHING?
>> OH, NO.
NO, I HAVEN'T.
>> ARE YOU TALKING TO ANTWANE
AT ALL?
>> I CALLED HIM SHORTLY, LIKE,
AFTER Y'ALL LEFT, MAYBE LIKE
A DAY OR TWO.
THEN I JUST GAVE UP, LIKE, IT'S
WHATEVER.
I AIN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HIM.
>> WELL THAT--
>> YOU DON'T MISS--
>> THAT'S CRAZY.
YOU GUYS WERE SO CLOSE.
>> THINGS HAPPEN, AND IF HE
WANTS TO TALK TO ME, I GUESS.
EVIDENTLY HE DON'T.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL,
BEST OF LUCK.
NICE TO MEET YOU, TONY.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU TOO.
>> BE GOOD, ALL RIGHT?
>> BYE.
>> both: HI.
>> GOT A CUTE 21-YEAR-OLD GIRL
TALKING TO A RAPPER, T-LIGHTS.
>> IF IT'S NOT T-LIGHTS,
WHO COULD IT BE?
>> I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA.
>> WHOEVER IT IS, THEY'RE GONNA
BE AT THAT CLUB ON TUESDAY
NIGHT.
>> WE'VE NEVER SURPRISED
ANYONE BEFORE.
>> THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH
RIGHT NOW.
1511
00:41:05.
>> YEAH, THIS IS A STRANGE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THIS IS IT.
>> LET'S DO IT.
IT LOOKS ABANDONED.
THERE'S NO WINDOWS.
>> THIS DON'T MAKE NO DAMN
SENSE.
>> EVEN IF I KNOCK, I CAN'T OPEN
THE DOOR.
IT'S PADLOCKED.
>> [sighs]
THIS [bleep] IS [bleep] CRAZY.
>> THIS IS KIND OF SCARY.
THIS GUY COULD BE IN JAIL.
LET'S DO THIS.
>> JUST TWO GUYS ON A RED SOFA.
>> HEY, LET ME ASK YOU
SOMETHING, MAX.
WHEN YOU'RE SHAVING, ARE YOU IN
FRONT OF A MIRROR?
>> YES.
>> OKAY.
>> WHY, DID I MISS SOME SPOTS?
>> EH, JUST ONE SPOT.
IT'S NOT TOO BAD.
>> WHERE? WHERE?
>> JUST RIGHT THERE.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> THAT'S ALWAYS THE SPOT.
>> THAT'S THE ONE.
[both laugh]
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE'S A GOOD ONE.
SUBJECT: "MY COUSIN IS
GETTING CATFISHED."
WELL, IT'S A FAMILY AFFAIR.
"MY NAME IS CARMEN.
I'M 30 YEARS OLD AND LIVE IN
CINCINNATI, OHIO.
MY COUSIN'S NAME IS ANTWANE.
HE IS IN LOVE WITH A GUY NAMED
TONY EVEN THOUGH
THEY'VE NEVER MET."
>> HM.
>> "HE IS CONVINCED THAT TONY IS
THE ONE FOR HIM.
ALL I EVER HEAR IS HOW TONY IS
THE CHEESE TO HIS MACARONI.
BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW HE
CAN EVEN TRUST THE GUY.
PLUS, ANTWANE HAS NEVER EVEN
SEEN A PICTURE OF TONY."
>> * I CAME TO FIND
* YOUR LOVE UNDER THE SUN
>> "THE ONLY TIME THEY TALK IS
WHEN TONY CALLS, SO ANTWANE JUST
HAS TO WAIT BY THE PHONE."
>> DOES ANTWANE NOT HAVE
TONY'S NUMBER?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S HARD TO--
>> IT'S ALL ON TONY'S TERMS.
>> RIGHT.
"ANTWANE AND TONY HAVE BEEN
TALKING FOR THREE YEARS,
AND HE'S NEVER MADE AN EFFORT TO
COME TO CINCINNATI TO SEE HIM."
>> * WE'RE ALL ROSES *
* AND WE SHOULD NOT GO
>> "HE'S A VERY LOVABLE GUY,
BUT HE'S EASILY FOOLED."
>> HE'S A ROMANTIC.
>> "HE'S NEVER BEEN IN A REAL
RELATIONSHIP, AND HE'S IN DEEP
WITH TONY.
THIS DUDE IS LYING.
PLEASE HELP!
CARMEN."
>> THIS IS LIKE A CATFISH
INTERVENTION.
>> ANYWAY...
ALL RIGHT, GIVING HER A RING.
[computer chiming]
>> WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> both: HEY!
>> WOW.
>> I LOVE YOUR SCARF.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> WE ARE ALREADY--
>> JUST FORMULATING LOTS OF
QUESTIONS.
>> TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH YOUR COUSIN
ANTWANE.
>> OH, ANTWANE.
>> OH, LORD.
>> [laughs]
>> HE IS A VERY CARING AND
LOVING PERSON.
>> DO YOU KNOW HOW ANTWANE
AND TONY MET ORIGINALLY THREE
YEARS AGO?
>> CHAT ON PHONE CHAT LINE.
YOU COULD JUST CALL
YOUR LOCAL NUMBER.
YOU CAN TALK TO ANYBODY FROM
ANYWHERE.
>> MEET SINGLES IN YOUR--
>> SO THIS IS LIKE THOSE
LATE-NIGHT COMMERCIALS.
>> YEAH.
>> I KNOW YOU'D BEEN ON IT.
MAX, YOU'D BEEN ON THE CHATS.
>> I'VE BEEN ON IT.
>> [chuckles]
HAVE THEY VIDEO CHATTED?
>> NO.
HE DOESN'T DO COMPUTERS OR
ANYTHING.
>> SO HE DOESN'T--HE DOESN'T GO
ONLINE.
HE DOESN'T HAVE FACEBOOK.
NOTHING.
>> NO.
>> WOW.
>> WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'VE GOT
CONCERNS, AND YOU THINK THAT
THIS IS BULL[bleep], HE SAYS...
>> HE'S LIKE, "YOU'RE A HATER.
GET OUT OF MY BUSINESS."
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO
HELP LOOK OUT FOR MY COUSIN
'CAUSE HE DESERVES TO KNOW WHO
TONY IS.
>> WELL, HERE'S MY QUESTION.
IF WE COME AND MEET WITH
ANTWANE, LIKE, IS HE GONNA WANT
OUR HELP?
>> I TOLD HIM THAT I WROTE TO
YOU ALL.
>> OH, AND WHAT DID HE SAY?
>> HE WAS HAPPY.
HE WANTS THE HELP.
>> WELL, 'CAUSE HE WANTS
TO MEET TONY.
>> HE REALLY WANTS TO MEET TONY.
>> RIGHT.
HE DOESN'T NECESSARILY THINK
THAT HE NEEDS OUR HELP FIGURING
OUT IF TONY'S REAL, BUT HE WANTS
TO MEET HIM.
>> COME TO CINCINNATI.
SHOW US THE WAY.
Y'ALL KNOW THE WAY.
>> WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THIS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> SEE YOU SOON, CINCINNATI.
>> SEE YOU SOON.
>> BYE, CARMEN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CARMEN'S AMAZING.
>> I LOVE CARMEN.
>> I LOVE HER.
>> SO CINCINNATI.
>> YEAH, MAN.
>> HERE WE GO.
HEARTACHE IN THE HEARTLAND.
>> [sputters and laughs]
>> NO?
>> * 24/7 AND THE LIGHTS
* STAY ON
* YOU LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE
* AND I'LL MAKE A GOOD DRUNK *
* ALL RIGHT
>> A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF
MAKING THIS SHOW: NECK PILLOWS.
>> * I GOT THE TUNNEL VISION
* I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT
* THROUGH ONE MORE NIGHT
>> THE THING I'M MOST CURIOUS
ABOUT IS PROBABLY THIS CHAT LINE
THING BECAUSE I'VE SEEN
THE COMMERCIALS...
>> YOUR WHOLE LIFE.
>> AND ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT'S
THAT REALLY LIKE.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO MEET
CARMEN.
[knocking on door]
>> WHO'S KNOCKING ON MY DOOR
LIKE THAT?
>> IT'S FREEZING.
>> WHAT'S UP, COUSIN?
>> HEY!
>> HI, COME ON IN.
>> WOW.
>> IT'S COLD, ISN'T IT?
>> YEAH.
COME ON IN, GUYS.
>> CHECK THIS OUT.
>> OH, YEAH, I GOT SOME OF THIS.
COME TO GET SOME OF THIS ACTION.
>> OH, MY GOD, ARE YOU KIDDING?
WOW.
THIS IS FOR REAL?
>> THIS IS FOR REAL.
>> LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT.
>> I'M GONNA SURPRISE YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
COME ON. WHAT DO YOU GOT?
>> [laughs]
>> [laughs]
>> LOOK, I JUST KNOCKED HIM OUT.
>> WOW.
LET'S SIT DOWN AND GET
COMFORTABLE.
SO YOU GUYS ARE COUSINS.
>> WE'VE BEEN LIKE BROTHER
AND SISTER.
TWANE IS FLAMBOYANT.
HE'S ALWAYS THE CENTER OF
ATTENTION.
BUT HE'S OLD-FASHIONED.
HE DOESN'T HAVE A MEANS
TO A COMPUTER.
HE JUST IN A WORLD OF HIS SELF,
LIKE, IN HIS OWN COMFORTABLE
SPOT.
HE WON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GET ON
GOOGLE.
>> WHAT IS CHAT LINE?
>> YEAH, WHAT IS--
>> CAN WE CALL?
CAN WE DO ONE RIGHT NOW?
>> YEAH.
>> THIS IS EXCITING.
>> YEAH.
>> SO DIAL [bleep].
>> THIS IS HEAT LINE.
WE'RE HOT MEETS SEXY.
beep!
THERE ARE 96 MEN ON THE LINE.
>> WOW.
>> SEE, I'M ABOUT TO TALK
TO HIM.
>> [laughs]
TALK TO HIM.
>> RECORD YOUR MESSAGE
AFTER THE TONE.
beep!
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
JUST LISTENED TO YOUR GREETING.
LIKE WHAT I HEARD.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, GET BACK
TO ME.
>> MESSAGE DELIVERED.
>> DO YOU ALWAYS CHANGE
YOUR VOICE?
>> YEAH, 'CAUSE I HAVE
A HEAVY VOICE.
I WANT THEM TO BE ATTRACTED
TO ME, YOU KNOW?
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK
HAVE FAKE NAMES...
>> 90% OF THEM.
>> MOST PEOPLE, RIGHT.
>> YEAH.
>> TONY DOES NOT HAVE
A FACEBOOK PAGE?
>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
>> NOT THAT YOU KNOW OF.
>> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT HIM.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT HIM.
>> FROM WHAT I HEARD, TONY'S
BEEN UP HERE A COUPLE TIMES AND
STILL HASN'T SEEN TWANE.
I WANT HIM TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO
HE TALKING TO.
>> EVEN IF IT MEANS FINDING OUT
THAT TONY'S LYING TO HIM.
>> WHATEVER.
I WANT HIM TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
>> I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET HIM.
>> SO LET'S DO IT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> * MY DEAR BROTHER
>> THIS IS THE VIP ESCORT.
ANTWANE, HERE WE COME.
>> * SHE JUST CALLED YOUR NAME
>> THE FACT THAT HE SAYS THAT
HE'S BEEN UP IN CINCINNATI AREA,
LIKE, A COUPLE TIMES IS
SUSPICIOUS.
SO I THINK THIS GUY TONY
ACTUALLY IS JUST IN CINCINNATI.
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S MY HUNCH.
[knocking on door]
OH, HERE HE COMES.
OH, THERE'S THAT SMILE.
>> HEY.
>> HELLO.
>> HI, COUSIN.
HI, Y'ALL.
>> WATCH OUT.
IT'S COOL THAT WE ALL COME IN?
>> YEAH, COME ON.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO IT.
>> I'M GONNA TRY TO WALK FIRST
'CAUSE MY JEANS A LITTLE TIGHT
AND THEY HURTING ME RIGHT NOW.
[laughter]
>> THIS HAIR IS INCREDIBLE.
>> IT'S BRAZILIAN.
IT'S GOT A BRAZILIAN STICKER ON
IT, YOU KNOW?
YOU JUST BUY IT AND STICK IT TO
YOUR SCALP.
>> SO TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF.
I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT
YOU, ALL GOOD THINGS.
>> RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT WORKING,
LOOKING FOR A JOB.
I BABYSIT SOMETIMES OR DO HAIR.
LOVE THE CLUB.
I LOVE FOOD.
I'M FAT, AND I'M PROUD OF IT.
I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF,
AND MY FAMILY LOVE ME,
SO I'M COOL WITH THAT,
AND I GOT GOOD FRIENDS.
>> WE'RE HERE ACTUALLY BECAUSE
CARMEN WAS CONCERNED ABOUT YOU.
>> RIGHT, 'CAUSE I'M SO IN LOVE.
I KNOW.
>> EVERY TIME THAT I ASK YOU
ABOUT TONY, IT'S ALWAYS,
I'M A HATER.
>> YOU IS.
>> YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST TRYING
TO LOOK OUT FOR YOU.
I DON'T WANT NOBODY TO PLAY YOU.
>> TRUE.
>> I'M SENSITIVE TO CERTAIN
THINGS AND YOU CARING.
>> WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU GUYS
ARE EACH OTHER'S BEST FRIENDS?
>> YEAH.
>> MM-HMM.
>> IF I NEED SOMETHING,
HE'S MY ROCK.
I'M HIS ROCK.
>> WHAT--WHAT KIND OF FEELINGS
DO YOU HAVE FOR THIS GUY?
>> I WANT TO BE WITH HIM.
I LOVE HIM, AND I CARE FOR HIM.
>> DOES HE EXPRESS THE SAME
FEELINGS FOR YOU?
>> MM-HMM.
>> DOES HE SAY HE'S GONNA, LIKE,
TAKE CARE OF YOU?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH?
>> TALKING ABOUT HOW HE'S GONNA
GET A HOUSE NOW, SO I'M READY.
* YOU BETTER KNOW IT HURTS
[laughs]
>> [laughs]
>> TELL US ABOUT GETTING ON CHAT
LINES AND HOW IT STARTED.
>> OH, GOODNESS.
OKAY, THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP
MEETING TONY.
THIS DEEP-ASS MOTHER[bleep]
VOICE, I SAID, "OH, HELL YEAH."
SO I GOT ON THERE.
WE JUST TALKING ON THE PHONE.
>> AT FIRST.
>> SO HE CALLED YOU FIRST FROM A
CINCINNATI AREA CODE.
>> RIGHT.
BUT HE SAID HE'S FROM ATLANTA,
SO...
THEN AFTER THAT, THINGS START
BEING, LIKE, THE PRIVATE NUMBER.
BUT I STILL REMEMBER THE
388-[bleep].
>> HE CALLS YOU, BUT HIS
NUMBER'S PRIVATE NOW.
>> RIGHT, IT'S JUST BEEN PRIVATE
SINCE THEN.
>> SO YOU ONLY SPEAK WHEN HE
CALLS YOU.
>> RIGHT.
>> HOW OFTEN DOES HE CALL YOU?
>> YESTERDAY.
HE AIN'T CALL ME TODAY.
>> HE CALLS YOU, LIKE,
ONCE A DAY.
>> YEAH.
WHEN HE GETS--I GUESS BECAUSE HE
SAY HE ALWAYS BUSY WITH THIS
CONSTRUCTION JOB, WHATEVER.
SO I MEAN, I COULD BELIEVE IT,
YOU KNOW?
>> DON'T YOU THINK IT'S WEIRD
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A PHONE
NUMBER TO CALL HIM AT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
HE WORK ALL THE TIME
CONSTRUCTION WORKER, SO YOU
KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME?
>> I DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME.
>> OH.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM?
>> YEAH, WHAT DO YOU ABOUT HIM?
HAVE YOU SEEN A PHOTOGRAPH OF
HIM?
>> NO.
>> NO. NOTHING.
>> JUST A VOICE.
>> HE COULD TEXT YOU A PICTURE.
>> I GOT OBAMA PHONE.
THEY LOW-INCOME PHONES,
SO YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING WITH
THEM BUT TALK.
>> SO HAS HE DESCRIBED WHAT HE
LOOKS LIKE?
>> YEAH, HE SAID HE'S TALL,
BROWN SKIN, YOU KNOW, BUFF.
>> SIX-PACK?
>> YEAH, BETTER BE 'CAUSE I
WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT BAD.
LIKE, 6'1".
>> SO HE'S PERFECT.
HE'S PERFECT-LOOKING.
>> RIGHT.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY VOICEMAILS
THAT HE'S LEFT YOU OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT?
>> YEAH, I GOT ONE.
[phone beeps]
>> SAVED MESSAGE.
>> END OF MESSAGE.
>> HOW HARD HAVE YOU TRIED TO
GET HIM TO MEET?
>> I ASK HIM EVERY TIME.
>> EVERY TIME YOU'RE ON
THE PHONE?
>> YES.
HE ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING TO DO.
WORK.
HE DON'T SAY NOTHING ELSE.
IT JUST BE WORK.
WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK, WORK,
WORK, WORK.
>> SO YOU TRUST IN HIM.
>> YEAH, I TRUST IN HIM.
>> YOU TRUST HIM MORE THAN YOU
TRUST ME?
>> YEAH.
>> OH, THAT SUCKS.
>> IF IT TURNS OUT THAT HE WAS
LYING, AND THAT HE DOESN'T LOOK
THE WAY YOU'D LIKE HIM TO OR
THAT YOU THOUGHT HE DID--
>> I'LL BE LIKE A VOLCANO.
I'MA EXPLODE.
I'M NOT PLAYING.
>> [sighs]
[trilling]
>> THIS HOW WE HUG.
>> WE'RE GONNA DO OUR HOMEWORK.
ALL RIGHT, HERE, GIVE ME A HUG,
WILL YOU?
>> AW, THAT'S NICE OF YOU.
BUT I'LL BE OKAY.
>> IF HE CALLS--
>> WAIT, WAIT, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE I HAVE THE NUMBER FOR HIS
NUMBER.
>> YEAH, YOU MEMORIZED IT,
RIGHT?
>> 388-[bleep].
>> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TALK TO YOU
LATER.
>> BYE, BUDDY.
>> SEE YOU.
>> THIS IS THE WEIRDEST,
SOMEHOW, EVER.
IT'S--HE'S CONSTRUCTED THIS
UNBELIEVABLE--
>> THE WHOLE FUTURE IS, LIKE--
IS WORKED OUT.
>> WILD.
>> * CLAP, CLAP
* CLAP YOUR HANDS
* AND MAKE MONEY
* BRING HOME THE BREAD
* AND YOU STILL STAY HUNGRY
* CLAP, CLAP, CLAP YOUR HANDS
* AND MAKE MONEY
>> THIS IS GREAT.
>> A STOREROOM.
>> YEAH, WOW, LOOK AT THIS.
>> WHAT'S FUNNY ABOUT THIS
INVESTIGATION, NEV...
>> WHAT'S SO FUNNY?
>> IS THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO
DO WITH THE INTERNET.
I MEAN, WE'LL USE THE INTERNET
TO LOOK UP THE PHONE NUMBER, BUT
ESSENTIALLY THIS WHOLE EPISODE
COULD HAVE TAKE PLACE IN 1990.
AND IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU
THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CATFISHING
PEOPLE SINCE THE DAWN OF
CIVILIZATION.
BRIEF RECAP: CARMEN REACHED OUT
TO US BECAUSE HER COUSIN ANTWANE
HAS BEEN IN A RELATIONSHIP
FOR THREE YEARS WITH A GUY
HE'S JUST BEEN TALKING TO
ON THE PHONE.
>> HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS PHONE
NUMBER.
HE DOESN'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME.
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.
HE KNOWS BASICALLY NOTHING ABOUT
HIM EXCEPT THAT HIS NAME IS
TONY, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE
SAYS HIS NAME IS.
>> AT THE VERY BEGINNING, HE HAD
A PHONE NUMBER FOR TONY.
BUT EVER SINCE THEN, THEY
HAVEN'T BEEN USING THAT PHONE
NUMBER, AND TONY HAS CALLED HIM
FROM A PRIVATE NUMBER.
SO IF ANTWANE WANTS TO TALK TO
TONY, HE HAS TO WAIT FOR TONY TO
CALL HIM FROM A PRIVATE NUMBER.
SO HERE WE GO.
WE HAVE ONE THING TO LOOK UP.
THE ONE PHONE NUMBER HE HAS FOR
TONY, WHO'S OSTENSIBLY FROM
ATLANTA, IS A 513 AREA CODE
PHONE NUMBER WHICH IS A
CINCINNATI AREA CODE.
>> I'M GONNA GO SPOKEO,
PUTTING IN THE NUMBER THAT
ANTWANE GAVE US.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS ALL WE GOT,
SO PUTTING A LOT ON THIS THING.
>> PRESS THE BUTTON.
>> I'M GONNA CLICK WITH MY
FINGERS CROSSED.
>> CLICK IT.
>> NOTHING.
>> OH.
>> OH, DEVASTATING.
>> HOLD ON.
>> THE INVESTIGATION'S OVER.
>> HOLD ON.
>> I HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED MY
CAPPUCCINO.
>> WE CAN GOOGLE THE NUMBER.
WHAT IS THIS?
SO THIS NUMBER IS REGISTERED TO
A DIANA THOMAS IN CINCINNATI.
>> SO WE HAVE AN ADDRESS
AND A NAME.
OKAY, WE MIGHT HAVE A HIT HERE.
>> THIS COULD BE SOMETHING.
>> SEARCH FOR HER.
DIANA THOMAS, CINCINNATI.
>> LET'S GO SPOKEO AGAIN.
IT'S A DIFFERENT ADDRESS FOR
DIANA THOMAS.
>> OH, LOOK, WHO'S THAT?
>> THERE'S A RELATIVE LISTED FOR
DIANA NAMED ANTHONY THOMAS.
>> THAT WOULD BE TONY.
SO WE HAVE A HIT.
ANTHONY.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES?
TONY THOMAS, A RELATIVE OF
DIANA.
>> SO WE HAVE AN ADDRESS FOR
THIS ANTHONY THOMAS CHARACTER.
IT'S [bleep] VINE STREET.
>> THIS IS PRETTY BIG.
>> YEAH.
IT'S A STRANGE CONNECTION,
BUT IT'S SOMETHING.
>> BUT IT'S--IT'S A CONNECTION.
>> OKAY, SO HOLD ON A SECOND.
LET'S JUST SEARCH FOR
ANTHONY THOMAS.
"ANTHONY THOMAS, CINCINNATI."
OKAY.
MUG SHOT, ANTHONY THOMAS.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT
COMES UP.
>> YEAH, BUSTED IN 2011 WHEN
THIS RELATIONSHIP STARTED.
>> JEEZ.
>> LOOK, WE FOUND THE PICTURE OF
A GUY WHO WAS ARRESTED RIGHT
AROUND THE TIME THAT ANTWANE
STARTED TALKING TO TONY.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS GUY
HAD THIS PHONE NUMBER...
>> RIGHT.
>> GOT ARRESTED SOON THEREAFTER.
THE PHONE WAS TAKEN AWAY,
THE NUMBER DISCONNECTED,
AND NOW--
>> HE'S CALLING FROM A PRIVATE
PRISON.
>> NOW HE'S CALLING FROM A
PAY PHONE IN JAIL.
>> LET'S SEE IF CALLING FROM
PRISON--
>> YEAH, WHAT DOES IT COME UP AS
ON CALLER I.D.?
>> BIG JAILS USE V.O.I.P.
SO THE CALLER I.D. WOULD MOST
LIKELY SHOW UP AS PRIVATE
SINCE IT'S A VPN.
OKAY, SO PHONE CALLS FROM PRISON
SHOW UP AS EITHER UNAVAILABLE
OR PRIVATE.
THERE IS A REAL CHANCE THIS GUY
COULD BE IN JAIL.
>> WE ONLY HAVE ONE CARD
TO PLAY HERE...
>> RIGHT.
>> AND THAT'S CALLING THE NUMBER
AND SEEING WHO PICKS UP.
>> THAT ANTWANE GAVE US.
WHAT HAPPENS IF TONY PICKS UP?
>> YOU SAY--
>> HEY, WE'RE FRIENDS WITH
ANTWANE.
I'M TRYING TO FINALLY HELP SET
UP A MEETING FOR YOU GUYS.
HERE WE GO.
>> THE NUMBER YOU ARE CALLING
IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
>> SO IT'S A DISCONNECTED
PHONE NUMBER.
>> GREAT.
WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENED
WHEN ANTWANE TRIED IT.
>> WHEN HE TRIES TO CALL.
>> CONSIDERING THE UNUSUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANTWANE'S
RELATIONSHIP AND THAT HE CAN'T
CALL TONY, IT'S NOT RIDICULOUS
TO THINK THAT MAYBE TONY'S IN
A MINIMUM SECURITY PRISON.
IT'S A LEAD.
ANTWANE HAS BEEN SO WRAPPED UP
IN HIS LOVE AFFAIR, HE HASN'T
ACTUALLY REALLY TAKEN THE TIME
TO CONSIDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES
AND WHAT HE'S INVOLVED IN.
SO LET'S JUST BE REALLY CAREFUL
WITH THIS GUY.
TONY COULD BE ANYBODY.
>> GIVE ANTWANE
A RING-A-DING DONG.
[phone line ringing]
>> YO, ANTWANE.
IT'S MAX AND NEV.
>> WE'RE HEADING OVER.
>> WE WANT TO TALK THROUGH WHAT
OUR OPTIONS ARE.
IS THAT COOL?
[knocking on door]
>> COME IN.
>> WELL, LET'S GO OVER IT.
WHAT'S THAT?
>> PROCEED.
>> PROCEED.
>> [laughs]
THE ONLY REAL PIECE OF
INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD WAS THE
PHONE NUMBER THAT YOU REMEMBERED
FROM WHEN YOU GUYS FIRST MET.
>> MM-HMM.
>> WE SEARCHED IT ON THIS
WEBSITE CALLED SPOKEO.
THIS IS WHAT IT CAME BACK WITH.
UNFORTUNATELY NO NAME,
NO GENDER, NO AGE.
THE NEXT THING WE DID WAS, WE
JUST DID A SEARCH FOR THAT PHONE
NUMBER, AND IT SHOWED UP FOR
DIANA THOMAS.
WE SCROLLED DOWN.
THERE'S A LITTLE FAMILY
BACKGROUND AREA WHERE
IT SHOWS RELATIVES.
SEE ANYTHING STRANGE?
>> I SEE AN ANTHONY.
>> WELL, THERE'S A REALLY GOOD
CHANCE THAT HIS NAME IS ACTUALLY
ANTHONY BUT THAT
HE GOES BY TONY.
>> THAT'S COMMON SENSE.
>> RIGHT, OKAY.
SO THEN WE JUST DID A SEARCH FOR
ANTHONY THOMAS, CINCINNATI.
AND THE FIRST THING THAT CAME UP
WAS THIS.
>> WHAT THE HELL?
>> IT'S A MUG SHOT FOR A GUY
NAMED ANTHONY THOMAS
FROM CINCINNATI.
IT'S POSSIBLE
THAT HE COULD BE IN JAIL NOW
AND CALLING YOU FROM PRISON.
>> I WAS ABOUT TO GIVE UP.
CHANGE MY PHONE NUMBER AND
EVERYTHING, 'CAUSE THIS IS
TOO MUCH.
I KNOW ONE THING.
I'M SCARED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
>> JUST CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT YOU.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT, YOU KNOW,
I DO CARE FOR YOU.
I DO WANT TO SEE YOU.
I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET YOU.
[gentle acoustic guitar music]
>> * I'VE BEEN MEANING *
* TO TALK TO YOU
* NOW THERE IS NO TIME TO LIVE
>> I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT
ALONE.
I'M NOT ABOUT TO EVEN GO STRESS
MYSELF OUT.
I'M NOT ABOUT TO DO IT.
>> AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS
FOR SURE.
IT'S JUST ALL WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO FIND.
BASICALLY NOW IT'S JUST A COUPLE
NAMES AND SOME ADDRESSES.
>> * I'M NOT LETTING GO *
>> MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK TO HIM.
>> WHATEVER HE GOT WAS GONE.
>> IT'S TIME TO JUST MEET THE
GUY SO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS,
TONY OR NOT, SO THAT YOU CAN
REALLY MOVE ON FOR YOURSELF.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> SLAM BAM.
>> [laughs]
>> SLAM BAM.
>> MAN, POOR ANTWANE.
HE'S LITERALLY HANGING ON
BY A THREAD.
>> I'M GONNA CALL ANTWANE.
>> YEAH.
[line ringing]
>> HELLO.
>> HEY, BUDDY.
>> HEY.
>> DID YOU GET A CALL BY ANY
CHANCE FROM TONY?
>> HE DIDN'T.
WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY
ARRIVE AT YOUR HOUSE IN ABOUT
15 MINUTES.
RIGHT.
>> I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS
WE CAN DO.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT
ADDRESSES.
I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO SORT OF
BE PROACTIVE, CHECK OUT THOSE
ADDRESSES, TALK TO SOME PEOPLE,
SEE IF ANYBODY KNOWS TONY.
>> CALL A CONSTRUCTION WORKER.
>> YEAH, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'LL
FIND?
>> I'M TIRED OF BEING NICE.
IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS.
I'M TIRED.
>> YOU READY TO BUST DOWN
SOME DOORS?
>> LET'S GO!
>> * WHAT KIND OF MAN
* KIND OF MAN, MAN
* ARE YOU, BOY?
*
* I'VE NEVER SEEN YOUR KIND *
* KIND BEFORE
>> I HAVE A LIST OF THREE
ADDRESSES FROM SPOKEO.
WE MIGHT GO TO ONE
OF THESE ADDRESSES,
AND TONY MIGHT ANSWER.
SINCE WE'RE ON VINE STREET,
I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH
THE VINE STREET ADDRESS.
>> I HAVE BUTTERFLIES IN MY
STOMACH.
>> WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.
DO YOU KNOW THIS AREA?
>> THIS IS DOWNTOWN, THE GHETTO.
>> 3 [bleep] 5.
[bleep].
>> THERE IT IS, [bleep].
LET'S GIVE THIS A WHIRL.
ALL RIGHT, SO THERE'S NO NAMES.
WE COULD JUST BUZZ AND ASK IF
ANYONE'S HOME, RIGHT?
>> WHY DON'T--THAT'S CRAZY TO
JUST RING RANDOM PEOPLE BUZZING.
>> IT'S NOT THAT CRAZY.
[electronic warbling tone]
SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO BREAK SOME
EGGS TO MAKE AN OMELET.
YEAH, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING
FOR TONY.
>> IS THIS ANTHONY THOMAS?
>> HE SAID THE WRONG DOOR.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> ARE YOU DIANA?
>> NO, I'M NOT DIANA.
>> OH, SORRY.
WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE
NAMED DIANA THOMAS.
>> DIANA THOMAS?
>> OR ANTHONY THOMAS.
>> NO.
>> DO YOU HAVE SOME MAILBOXES
IN THERE?
>> YEAH.
>> NO ONE NAMED THOMAS, RIGHT?
>> IT'S NOT--THAT'S NOT ME.
>> SO YEAH, OKAY.
>> NEXT ADDRESS.
>> THERE IT IS, THE RED ONE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT VERY INVITING.
>> RIGHT, SO THEY PROBABLY GOT
A DOG.
CUJO GONNA COME OUT.
>> YOU GUYS WANT TO WAIT HERE?
I'LL GO KNOCK.
>> YEAH.
>> GOOD LUCK, BUDDY.
>> THERE'S PEOPLE IN THERE.
>> THERE ARE?
[expectant music]
*
>> HELLO.
>> HI.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> FINE.
>> MY NAME IS NEV.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR DIANA
THOMAS.
>> I'M DIANA.
>> OH, GREAT.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE NAMED
ANTHONY THOMAS, AND YOUR NAMES
ARE CONNECTED.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU KNOW WHO
THAT IS.
>> NO.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A RELATIVE
OR YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANYONE
NAMED TONY OR ANTHONY?
>> YOUR DAD'S LAST NAME IS
THOMAS, BUT YOURS IS NOT?
>> NO.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HELP OUR
FRIEND MEET TONY.
>> WELL, THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S
A DEAD END.
>> BACK IN THE CAR.
>> SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HIDING
SOMETHING.
>> I THINK SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
HIDING SOMETHING.
>> I THINK SHE WAS.
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE.
WE GOT ONE MORE LOCATION TO GO,
GUYS.
>> THIS LOOKS SPOOKY.
>> LOOKS ABANDONED.
>> I MEAN, IT COULD BE THAT THIS
IS AN ABANDONED HOUSE.
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> LET'S CHECK IT OUT.
>> THERE'S NO WINDOWS.
GUNSHOTS.
IT'S BEEN SALTED.
>> "THIS LETTER IS A NOTICE OF
VIOLATION IN ORDER ISSUED
PURSUANT TO BUILDING CODE."
SO WHOEVER DID LIVE HERE,
WE MISSED THEM BY A MONTH.
>> THIS DON'T MAKE NO DAMN
SENSE.
>> SOMEBODY GOT TO LIVE HERE.
>> EVEN IF I KNOCK, I CAN'T OPEN
THE DOOR.
IT'S PADLOCKED.
>> [sighs]
THIS [bleep] IS [bleep] CRAZY.
[tense music]
*
>> THIS IS KIND OF SCARY.
>> SO THAT'S IT.
THOSE WERE OUR THREE ADDRESSES.
>> NO MORE ADDRESSES?
>> THAT WAS IT.
WELL, LET'S GET BACK IN THE CAR.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> IT'S COLD.
>> LET'S GO.
>> I DON'T WANT TO GET BACK IN
THE CAR.
I WANT TO FIND SOMETHING.
>> I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING
EVERYTHING WE CAN.
>> TWANE, THE REASON WHY YOU
[bleep] STUPID IDIOT CAN NEVER
FIND WHO TONY IS
BECAUSE I'M TONY.
>> WHAT'S HAP--WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> WHY THE [bleep]
WOULD YOU DO THAT?
>> BECAUSE...
>> THREE MOTHER[bleep] YEARS.
THAT AIN'T [bleep] COOL.
>> YOU GET MAD FOR THAT LITTLE
BIT OF BULL[bleep] THOUGH?
THAT'S [bleep] UP.
>> THAT'S LIFE.
DEAL WITH IT.
>> WAIT A SECOND.
>> OH, WELL.
>> FOR REAL, THREE YEARS?
I'M THINKING IT'S TONY.
YOU AIN'T NO [bleep] TONY.
>> SO [bleep] WHAT? IT'S LIFE.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
>> THERE AIN'T NO MOTHER[bleep]
LIFE.
THAT'S BULL[bleep].
>> THAT'S NOT BULL[bleep].
>> IT'S OVER.
DON'T TALK TO ME EVER NO MORE,
AND I MEAN THAT [bleep].
>> IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE QUIT
FOLLOWING ME WITH THAT DAMN
CAMERA?
>> OKAY, I WANT A LOT OF SPACE.
LIKE...
>> PLEASE.
>> LIKE, TEN TIMES MORE SPACE.
>> I DON'T EVEN FEEL LIKE
TALKING ABOUT THIS BULL[bleep].
DON'T PLAY ME LIKE THAT.
AND I'M GOING AROUND FOR THREE
PEOPLE IN MOTHER[bleep]
HOUSES, THINKING ABOUT SEEING
[bleep] TONY.
HER FAT ASS PLAYING.
>> COME OVER HERE.
>> SO WHAT?
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?
>> COME OVER HERE.
>> I DON'T EVEN FEEL LIKE
TALKING ABOUT THIS BULL[bleep].
GONNA PLAY ME LIKE THAT.
NOW I'M GOING AROUND FOR THREE
PEOPLE IN MOTHER[bleep] HOUSES,
THINKING I'M ABOUT TO
SEE [bleep] TONY.
I JUST WANT TO GO HOME.
I'M GOING HOME.
I'M CHANGING MY NUMBER ON EVERY
MOTHER[bleep] THING,
AND I MEAN THAT.
>> SO THIS IS, WHAT, PAYBACK?
>> YES. PAYBACKS.
PAYBACKS.
>> FOR WHAT? FOR WHAT?
>> PAYBACKS ARE SO FUNNY.
IT'S SO FUNNY TO ME BECAUSE
HE--HE TALK ABOUT ME IN FRONT
OF, LIKE, EVERYBODY, SO I WAS
WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT,
AND THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOMENT.
>> WELL, I THINK I SHARE YOUR
CONFUSION, DISAPPOINTMENT,
AND DISGUST.
HERE, DO YOU WANT TO GET
IN THE CAR?
>> HELL YEAH, I WANT TO GET IN
THE CAR.
TAKE THE MOTHER[bleep]
CAMERAS OFF OF ME.
>> GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.
>> I WANT TO GO HOME.
>> YOU CAN SIT IN THE FRONT.
I'M--I'M SORRY.
>> WHAT VOICE ARE YOU USING TO
TALK TO HIM?
>> THE TONY VOICE.
JUST CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT YOU.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW
THAT, YOU KNOW,
I DO CARE FOR YOU.
I WANT TO SEE YOU.
I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET YOU.
THE TONY VOICE.
HE NEVER ACTUALLY TALKED TO TONY
ON THE CHAT LINE, BUT HE FELT
LIKE HE DID BECAUSE I CALLED HIM
LIKE, "YOU MET ME OFF THE CHAT
LINE," 'CAUSE HE'S ALWAYS ON
THERE, AND HE GIVES
HIS NUMBER OUT.
SO I STARTED [bleep]
TALKING TO HIM.
>> SO HE NEVER TALKED TO ANYONE
NAMED TONY ON THE CHAT LINE.
>> NO.
I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM FOR
THREE YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN WITH
HIM THREE YEARS.
TALK TO HIM. BE WITH HIM.
TALK TO HIM. BE WITH HIM.
INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY THAT WE
KNOW, NOW THE WORLD CAN SEE.
LIKE, IT'S ONE STEP.
IT'S ONE NOTCH UP.
>> WELL, WHAT DID HE SAY?
HOW DID IT START?
>> IT'S ONE NOTCH UP.
THAT I WAS A FAT,
HUNGRY KELLY PRICE.
EVERY LITTLE THING THAT
HUMILIATES SOMEBODY HE HAS SAID
TO ME.
THE BEST WAY I KNEW HOW TO GET
HIM BACK IS, I KNOW THAT HE'D BE
ON THE CHAT LINE.
THE JOKE WAS ALWAYS ON ME.
HA, HA.
SO NOW THE JOKE IS ON HIM.
>> YOU KIND OF--YOU USED US AND
KIND OF WASTED OUR TIME TO--
TO GET BACK AT YOUR COUSIN
FOR SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT YOU
THREE YEARS AGO?
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S--
>> IT'S NOT LIKE--
>> THAT'S JUST LAME.
>> THAT'S NOT LAME.
ACTUALLY IT'S GOOD.
>> IT'S LAME.
NO, IT'S LAME.
>> I CATFISH EVERY SINGLE
PERSON.
I FAKE AND ACT LIKE OTHER
PEOPLE, SO...
>> SO YOU DO THAT A LOT?
>> I DO THAT A LOT, AND I'M GOOD
AT IT.
>> WELL, WE KNOW YOU'RE A GOOD
LIAR.
>> EVEN GOT YOU TWO.
>> WAS THIS MORE ABOUT JUST SORT
OF GETTING ATTENTION FOR YOU
THAN IT WAS ABOUT--
>> SHE COULD HAVE BEEN ON ANY
SHOW, BUT SHE CHOSE US TO BESTOW
UPON US HER GENIUS.
>> IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL
TO Y'ALL.
I KNOW IT'S PERSONAL TO Y'ALL
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT Y'ALL DO.
>> SCREW US FOR A SECOND.
WHAT ABOUT ANTWANE?
>> YEAH.
>> YOUR COUSIN, YOUR BLOOD.
>> BUT I KNOW ANTWANE.
>> WHO YOU PUBLICLY HUMILIATED.
>> THREE MOTHER[bleep]
YEARS, THOUGH.
THAT'S SOME [bleep]
BULL[bleep].
I GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS
BULL[bleep].
SHE DO SOME STUPID-ASS [bleep].
WHAT A FATASS.
>> IT WAS A HOUSE FULL OF PEOPLE
WHEN HE DID ME.
YOU KNOW, SO WORLD FULL OF
PEOPLE WHEN I DID HIM.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF A CATFISH
IS TO MAKE THE PERSON BELIEVE
AND TRUST IN THE PERSON THAT
THEY THINK THEY ARE.
>> GENERALLY IT'S TO FALL IN
LOVE WITH SOMEONE.
>> GENERALLY IT'S NOT--
CATFISHING IS NOT ALL ABOUT
FALLING IN LOVE.
THAT'S NOT--
>> WELL, WHAT ARE YOU USING IT
FOR?
>> THAT'S Y'ALL DEFINITION.
>> I MEAN, THIS IS PATHETIC.
>> NO, THIS IS NEW.
SOMETHING NEW FOR YOU ALL.
>> WHAT IF ANTWANE NEVER WANTED
TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN AND DIDN'T?
WOULD THAT BE SUCCESS?
>> NO, IT WOULD JUST--I STILL
WOULD PROVE MY POINT.
>> BUT WOULDN'T THAT SUCK
FOR YOU?
>> IT WOULD. IT WOULD.
>> IT WOULD BE A BUMMER, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, IT WOULD, BUT--
>> IT COULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH, IT COULD HAPPEN.
BUT I KNOW IT WON'T HAPPEN.
>> I'M SO GLAD YOU GOT TO BE ON
TV, AND EVERYONE'S GONNA LOVE
YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THE QUEEN
OF CATFISH.
>> ARE YOU GONNA BE MAD?
>> IT'S JUST KIND OF LAME.
JUST LAME.
I'M COLD.
[cynical rock music]
*
>> HE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.
>> THERE'S SOME [bleep] UP
PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD,
I'M TELLING YOU.
I'M [bleep] UP.
>> MAX, DID YOU TELL HER TO GET
A RIDE WITH THE PRODUCER?
>> YEAH.
[knocking on door]
>> WE'RE NOT IN THERE,
AND I DON'T BLAME HIM.
>> GIVE HIM HIS SPACE FOR NOW?
>> YEAH.
>> LET'S GO.
LET'S GO OVER TO CARMEN,
THE MASTERMIND.
I THINK FAME, IN A LOT OF
PEOPLE'S MINDS, EQUALS SUCCESS.
INFAMOUS MEANS FAMOUS FOR BEING
BAD, AND I THINK THAT ON OUR
SHOW, SOMEONE LIKE CARMEN IS
GRABBING AT THAT KIND OF FAME.
WE SHOULD TALK TO HER THE WAY WE
WOULD TALK TO HER IF THE CAMERAS
WEREN'T ROLLING.
>> HELLO.
>> I WANT TO HEAR THE THING THAT
YOU'VE BEEN THINKING THAT YOU
WERE GOING TO SAY.
I WANT TO HEAR IT.
I WANT TO HEAR HOW GOOD IT IS.
>> I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
>> I KNOW.
>> YOU HAVE ALL YOU HAVE ANYWAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A
CONCLUSION TO HOW A PERSON IS.
>> BUT WHAT'S YOUR STORY?
>> I [bleep] CATFISH PEOPLE,
AND I'M COOL WITH IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE COOL
WITH IT, THOUGH.
>> I WAS JUST WONDER, THOUGH,
ARE YOU--YOU'RE PROUD OF IT?
>> YEAH, I'M PROUD OF MYSELF,
'CAUSE I DO A DAMN GOOD JOB.
WHY ARE YOU GONNA WASTE
YOUR BREATH SAYING ANYTHING TO
ME ANYMORE?
>> I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE
OTHER PEOPLE FEEL LIKE [bleep].
>> THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.
>> YOU PUT PEOPLE IN POSITIONS
TO MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE [bleep].
ADMIT IT.
>> WELL, YOU FELL FOR IT,
DIDN'T YOU?
I MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE [bleep]
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE
THEY ALREADY IS [bleep].
>> DID I WANT TO?
I WANTED TO FEEL LIKE [bleep]?
>> THEY'RE ALREADY [bleep].
>> DID I WANT TO FEEL LIKE
[bleep]?
>> YOU ALREADY [bleep].
YOU AIN'T [bleep].
>> THAT--YOUR ARGUMENT IS, YOU
AIN'T [bleep].
YOU ALREADY [bleep]"?
>> GREAT.
>> I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE SHE
DESERVES THE COUCH TIME.
>> WELL, I'M SORRY
THAT I LOST MY TEMPER.
I FELT MANIPULATED, AND I FELT
SORT OF TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.
I'M JUST CURIOUS--HAVE YOU EVER
CONSIDERED THAT MAYBE
YOU'RE A COMPULSIVE LIAR?
>> I KNOW I'M A COMPULSIVE LIAR.
>> OH. OKAY.
>> OH, YEAH.
BUT THE GREATEST LIARS WORK IN
THE BIGGEST COMPANIES.
>> YOU'RE TOO SMART TO BE DOING
WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I THINK
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY
YOU WANTED TO COME ON THE SHOW
BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO TELL
EVERYONE AND YOUR FRIENDS THAT
YOU'RE SMARTER THAN THE WORLD
GIVES YOU CREDIT FOR BEING.
AND YET THE THING THAT YOU
WANT TO PROMOTE, THE THING THAT
YOU WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR,
IS THIS NEGATIVE THING.
>> THAT'S FOR MY FIVE MINUTES
OF FAME.
>> WHY?
>> WHEN YOU APPROACH SOMEBODY
WITH THE OPPORTUNITY, THEY'D
WANT TO DO ANYTHING JUST TO BE
ON TV FOR THAT MOMENT,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> WHY?
WHAT IS IT ABOUT BEING ON TV?
>> IT'S JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ON
TV MAKE THE WORLD LOOK
A DIFFERENT WAY
TO PEOPLE THAT'S NOT.
>> BUT THERE'S FAME FOR DOING
GOOD THINGS, AND THERE'S FAME
FOR DOING BAD THINGS.
RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A
SMALL AMOUNT OF FAME FOR DOING
SOMETHING BAD.
YOU TOOK THREE YEARS COLDLY
TAKING REVENGE ON YOUR COUSIN
AND BEST FRIEND, AND YOU JUST
BLASTED HIM ON TELEVISION.
>> BUT HOW DO YOU--HOW DO YOU
REALLY FEEL INSIDE RIGHT NOW?
>> I'M ANGRY.
THAT'S...
I'M JUST ANGRY, AND I'M TIRED.
>> OKAY.
>> THAT'S IT, BECAUSE I'VE
CREATED ANOTHER VERSION OF--THAT
I AM NOT, YOU KNOW?
>> WELL, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT
THAT PERSON?
>> I LIKE HER SOMETIMES.
>> DO YOU WANT TO BE CLOSE WITH
ANTWANE AGAIN?
>> YEAH.
>> IF YOU UNDERESTIMATED
ANTWANE AND HE NEVER DOES WANT
TO BE YOUR FRIEND AGAIN,
YOU LOST YOUR BEST FRIEND.
[somber indie pop music]
>> * YOU'RE PUSHING DOWN *
* ON MY SHOULDERS
*
* AND EMPTYING MY LUNGS
>> ARE YOU SORRY?
>> I'M MORE SORRY NOW
THAN I THOUGHT IT OUT TO BE
WHEN I FIRST DID IT.
BUT AT FIRST I WASN'T, BECAUSE
IT WAS JUST TOTALLY REVENGE.
IT'S, LIKE, SORT OF LIKE
AN ADDICTION, AND I'VE BEEN
DOING IT FOR SO LONG, I NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
>> OKAY.
>> I HOPE ONE DAY
YOU AND ANTWANE ARE OKAY.
>> * AND I HATE THAT I CAN'T *
* SAY YOUR NAME
* WITHOUT FEELING LIKE
* I'M PART OF THE BLAME *
* AND IT'S NEVER GONNA FEEL *
* QUITE THE SAME
* BUT IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE *
>> THIS EPISODE OF
CATFISH THE TV SHOW
CONTINUES NOW.
ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK
WE SHOULD GET ANTWANE.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD JUST TO
GET HIM OUT OF HIS PLACE.
>> LET'S TAKE HIM OUT.
>> * GOT A BEAT-UP MATCHBOOK
* HALF A BOTTLE OF GIN
* TWO HOURS IN THE CAR
* OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE
* I DON'T WANT TO GO IN *
* 50-SOME YEARS OLD
* YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I'M 25 *
>> YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF
YOUR JACKET?
I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU BE
A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
I DO THINK THERE'S
AN OPPORTUNITY
AS--AS--THIS IS MY JOB.
>> I SEE.
>> RIGHT.
AND I DON'T ALWAYS LIKE IT,
AND I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE WAY
SHE'S HANDLED THE SITUATION.
I FEEL REALLY [bleep] THAT
I UNKNOWINGLY PUT YOU IN
THIS SITUATION.
>> I DON'T GIVE A [bleep]
WHAT THE CASE MAY BE.
NOW IT'S ON [bleep] TV.
EVERYBODY ALWAYS CAPPING
ON HER ASS.
SHE SHOULD HAVE PUT THEIR ASS ON
ON TV.
Y'ALL PICKED ME.
ONLY THING THAT I'M PISSED OFF
ABOUT--THIS TYPE OF SITUATION,
TRUE ENOUGH, BUT MY COUSIN--
THAT'S A FAMILY MEMBER,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
YOU DON'T DO THAT.
>> BECAUSE SHE DID THIS,
AND BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT EVERY
RIGHT TO BE PISSED AT HER FOR
THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, IT'D BE
VERY EASY TO FORGET WHY YOU FELL
IN LOVE WITH TONY.
>> I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT TONY.
IT'S OVER.
THAT'S GOOD THAT I FOUND OUT
THAT IT WAS HER.
THAT'S GOOD.
NOW I CAN DO WHAT THE [bleep]
I WANT TO DO.
>> WELL, TAKE YOUR TIME
AND LET IT, YOU KNOW--
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET IT BE YOUR EXPERIENCE,
AND DON'T--DON'T TAKE THIS
EXPERIENCE AS A SETBACK.
THINK OF IT AS A PUSH FORWARD.
BUT DON'T RUN AWAY FROM IT.
SOMETIMES THE BEST THING YOU CAN
DO IS JUST SIT IN
AN EXPERIENCE--
>> I'VE DONE SAT ENOUGH.
>> I KNOW.
WELL, I KNOW.
>> I DONE SAT ENOUGH.
>> BUT THIS JUST HAPPENED
YESTERDAY, SO--
>> IT'S AFTER ME TO JUST FLY
AROUND THIS BUG LIKE A [bleep]
JET.
>> EXACTLY.
SO YOU'VE BEEN--EXACTLY.
YOU GOT IT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.
THAT'S IT.
>> I DO.
IT'S [bleep] UP, THOUGH.
I'MA KEEP SAYING THAT.
>> I KNOW.
>> [sighs]
BYE.
>> TAKE SOME BABY STEPS
TO INFORM YOURSELF
ON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO.
>> YEAH, BUT THAT [bleep]
THOUGH.
AIN'T NOBODY TRYING TO DO THAT.
>> THERE HE IS.
>> OH.
>> HI.
>> HEY, HANDSOME.
>> WHAT'S UP?
>> WHAT'VE YOU BEEN DOING?
>> I WEIGHED UP THE JOB AT THE
COUNTY, SO...
>> WHAT JOB?
>> IT'S, LIKE, JANITORIAL, BUT
THEY'RE PAYING, LIKE, $10 AN
HOUR.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> NICE.
>> WHOA.
>> YOU'VE STOPPED TALKING TO HER
COMPLETELY?
>> IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
I'M NOT JUST GONNA RUSH
AND DO IT WHEN YOU'RE WRONG.
I AIN'T WRONG.
>> ANY UPDATES ON
THE ROMANTIC FRONT?
>> RIGHT NOW I'VE JUST BEEN
TALKING TO PEOPLE.
THAT'S IT.
POPULAR.
>> BUT NO MORE TALKING TO PEOPLE
ON CHAT LINES?
>> NO CHAT LINES, NONE OF THAT.
[laughter]
>> TAKE IT EASY, BUDDY.
>> YOU TOO.
>> WOW.
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO.
>> NICE.
I LIKE YOUR HAIR, CARMEN.
>> OH, THANK YOU.
>> HOW'S IT GOING?
>> YOU ALL TAKING ME FROM MY GYM
TIME, YOU KNOW THAT?
>> OH, SORRY.
>> YOU'VE BEEN WORKING OUT?
>> I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE GYM
THREE TIMES A WEEK...
>> WOW.
THAT'S AMAZING.
>> FOR ALMOST A MONTH NOW.
>> YOU HAVEN'T BEEN CATFISHING?
>> OH, NO.
NO, I HAVEN'T.
>> ARE YOU TALKING TO ANTWANE
AT ALL?
>> I CALLED HIM SHORTLY, LIKE,
AFTER Y'ALL LEFT, MAYBE LIKE
A DAY OR TWO.
THEN I JUST GAVE UP, LIKE, IT'S
WHATEVER.
I AIN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HIM.
>> WELL THAT--
>> YOU DON'T MISS--
>> THAT'S CRAZY.
YOU GUYS WERE SO CLOSE.
>> THINGS HAPPEN, AND IF HE
WANTS TO TALK TO ME, I GUESS.
EVIDENTLY HE DON'T.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL,
BEST OF LUCK.
NICE TO MEET YOU, TONY.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU TOO.
>> BE GOOD, ALL RIGHT?
>> BYE.
>> both: HI.
>> GOT A CUTE 21-YEAR-OLD GIRL
TALKING TO A RAPPER, T-LIGHTS.
>> IF IT'S NOT T-LIGHTS,
WHO COULD IT BE?
>> I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA.
>> WHOEVER IT IS, THEY'RE GONNA
BE AT THAT CLUB ON TUESDAY
NIGHT.
>> WE'VE NEVER SURPRISED
ANYONE BEFORE.
>> THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH
RIGHT NOW.
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