Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 2, Episode 16 - Michael & Caroline - full transcript
Mike fell in love online with Caroline over a year and a half ago but she has continually evaded his attempts to meet. Strangely though, she often makes her presence known by sending Mike pictures of his workplace and has even left a note on his car.
>> OH, MAN. THE ANTICIPATION.
>> HOW ARE THOSE BUTTERFLIES?
>> DEFINITELY BACK.
JUST NERVOUS.
>> SO WE'VE ARRIVED.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE
IN, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> [exhales]
>> I THINK THIS IS IT, GUYS.
>> HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.
LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, FIGURING OUT THE
TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE ROMANCES.
I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU IF
YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY READY.
>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.
>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED
DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.
>> GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
WE MADE A FEW LOVE
CONNECTIONS...
>> IT FEELS AMAZING.
>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE
OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.
>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP NOW.
>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF
CATFISHING, HIDING WHO YOU
REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO
AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...
>> A BEAUTY PAGEANT WINNER, A
MODEL...
>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY A
LOT OF YOU.
GOT AN EMAIL HERE.
"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE
WITH?"
SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT
ON THE ROAD...
MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.
>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.
>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS
RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
>> JESUS, MAN.
WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT
SHOCK?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND
I WILL FIND OUT ALL THE ANSWERS.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES, A LITTLE BIT
OF FICTION...
>> WOW.
CATFISH CURVEBALL.
>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF
REALITY.
>> THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE
SAME.
>> ARE WE READY?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.
HEY, EVERYBODY. I'M NEV.
>> MAX.
>> AND WE ARE IN: ATLANTA.
>> ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
RIGHT HERE.
I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A VIEW OF
THE CATFISH CAPITAL.
SO MANY CATFISH JUST SWIMMING
AROUND OUT THERE.
CAN YOU SEE THEM?
>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S DIVE IN.
"NEV AND MAX, MY NAME IS
MICHAEL.
I AM 27 AND LIVE IN PENSACOLA,
FLORIDA.
I AM IN DESPERATE NEED OF YOUR
ASSISTANCE.
I MET THIS GIRL NAMED CAROLINE
ON A DATING WEBSITE.
THE MAIN PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT
CAROLINE AND I LIVE IN THE SAME
CITY.
HOWEVER, I HAVE STILL YET TO
MEET HER."
>> WAIT. TIME OUT.
IF YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO
LIVES IN YOUR CITY, AND THEY
DON'T WANT TO MEET UP WITH YOU,
THEY'RE A CATFISH, AND YOU
SHOULD RUN.
>> OKAY.
"IT HAS BEEN ROUGHLY A YEAR AND
A HALF NOW SINCE WE FIRST MET.
I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING IN MY
POWER TO MEET THIS GIRL, AND
NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK.
SHE ALWAYS CANCELS LAST-MINUTE,
STANDS ME UP, OR FLEES WHEN I
SHOW UP.
I HAVE ALSO TRIED ON MULTIPLE
OCCASIONS TO VIDEO CHAT WITH
HER.
HER CAMERA IS BROKEN OR COVERED.
SHE CLAIMS THAT IT'S ALL
ANXIETY-DRIVEN PROBLEMS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WONDER
IF THE PROBLEM IS ME."
HOLD ON. HOLD ON.
"THE STORY GETS DEEPER, TOO."
>> UH-OH.
>> "SHE IS SUPPOSEDLY IN THE
MIDDLE OF BEING TREATED FOR
COLON CANCER, WHICH MAKES EVERY
DAY HARDER BECAUSE IN DEVELOPING
A DEEP CARE FOR HER, IT'S VERY
HARD TO NOT BE AROUND.
I'VE TRIED THE IMAGE SEARCH
TRICKS THAT I LEARNED FROM THE
SHOW AND RESEARCHED ON MY OWN.
AND NOTHING I'VE DONE SEEMS TO
WORK TOWARDS MY ULTIMATE GOAL OF
MEETING CAROLINE."
>> * ARE YOU THE BRUTAL HEART
* ARE YOU THE BRUTAL HEART
* THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR *
>> "CAROLINE IS THE PERFECT
PERSON FOR ME.
I FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH WE
HAVEN'T MET, THE BOND WE'VE
BUILT OVER THIS TIME IS STRONGER
THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER HAD WITH
ANYONE ELSE.
I WOULD LIKE IT VERY MUCH IF YOU
GUYS WOULD HELP ME SOLVE THE
MYSTERY OF THIS DILEMMA."
>> * SO USE ME
>> "HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
MICHAEL."
EVEN IF SHE IS THE GIRL WHO SHE
SAYS SHE IS, AND EVEN IF SHE IS
DEALING WITH COLON CANCER, WHY
MAKE PLANS WITH SOMEONE TIME AND
TIME AGAIN, ONLY TO NOT SHOW UP?
>> THAT'S WHY HE NEEDS US.
>> ALL RIGHT.
I'M GONNA CALL THIS GUY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> HEY... HOW YOU DOING, BUDDY?
>> I'M DOING ALL RIGHT.
LONG DAY AT WORK TODAY, SO
FINALLY GOT HOME.
>> WHO DO YOU LIVE WITH?
>> WITH THE TWO COOLEST
ROOMMATES IN THE WORLD...
MY PARENTS.
>> VERY NICE.
I THINK I SAW A LITTLE BIT OF
YOUR ART ON YOUR OOVOO ICON.
>> YEAH.
>> ARE YOU PURSUING A CAREER AS
A PROFESSIONAL ARTIST?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO.
>> JUST EXPLAIN TO US, SO YOU
MET CAROLINE ON A DATING
WEBSITE?
>> RIGHT, PLENTY OF FISH, A YEAR
AND A HALF AGO.
>> SO WHEN DID YOU GUYS START
TALKING ON THE PHONE?
>> IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS
INTO IT.
>> WHY'D YOU GUYS HIT IT OFF?
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT HER?
>> OUR PERSONALITIES JUST KIND
OF MESH REALLY WELL, AND I FELT
REALLY ALIVE.
WE TALK AND WE COULD GOOF AROUND
AND WE COULD BE OURSELVES.
>> * WHY DID WE FALL IN LOVE
* WHY DO WE FALL IN LOVE
>> WHEN IT STARTED GETTING MORE
SERIOUS IS WHEN IT KIND OF
TURNED INTO SHE'S SCARED TO MEET
ME.
AND IT'S BEEN INSTANCES LIKE I
THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO MEET HER
AT WAL-MART.
I CALLED HER, I TOLD HER I WAS
THERE.
SHE WAS INSIDE THE STORE AT THE
TIME.
I GOT OUT OF MY CAR, I WALKED
IN.
NEXT THING I KNOW, SHE TELLS ME
SHE'S LEAVING.
I WALK BACK OUTSIDE.
I SEE A MINI COOPER SPEEDING OFF
THAT RESEMBLES WHAT SHE TOLD ME
SHE DROVE.
IT WAS ANXIETY.
SHE HAD A PANIC ATTACK AND HAD
TO LEAVE.
AND THEN, TOWARDS THE END OF
LAST YEAR, SHE JUST DISAPPEARED.
I COULDN'T GET AHOLD OF HER.
SHE CAME BACK.
SHE SAID SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS
SICK.
AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS SHE
WANTED TO DO WAS MEET ME.
AND I STILL HAVEN'T MET HER.
>> YOU GOT TO ADMIT, IT SOUNDS
PRETTY FISHY.
>> YEAH, IT DOES.
>> RIGHT.
BUT IF THIS GIRL REALLY FELL FOR
YOU THE WAY SHE SAYS AND LOVED
YOU THE WAY SHE DOES, WHY
WOULDN'T SHE WANT TO SEE YOU?
>> AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I'VE
BEEN ASKING MYSELF THIS WHOLE
TIME.
>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, LOOK.
IF YOU'RE READY TO FIND OUT THE
TRUTH, I'M READY TO DO WHATEVER
I CAN TO HELP.
>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS.
I'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> LATER.
MAN.
>> HE'S GOTTEN EVERY RED FLAG
POSSIBLE.
HIS ROOM IS PROBABLY JUST FULL
OF RED FLAGS.
>> HE SHOULD NOT BE TIED UP IN A
MISERABLE RELATIONSHIP...
>> YEAH.
>> THAT CAUSES HIM GRIEF AND
UNHAPPINESS AND STRESS.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHO
THIS GIRL IS AND WHY SHE'S DOING
WHAT SHE'S DOING.
>> WELL, OFF TO FLORIDA.
>> OFF TO FLORIDA.
BIG MYSTERY.
>> PLANE TRAIN. PLANE TRAIN.
>> ALL RIGHT. BIG MIKE.
COMING TO YOU, BUDDY.
>> * WE ARE YOUNG
*WE ARE ONE *
* LET US SHINE
* FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH *
*TO YOUR PLACE PLACE PLACE *
* WE'RE ON OUR WAY *
>> THIS IS THE PENSACOLA BAY,
ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
>> SHE IS REALLY MESSING WITH
THIS GUY.
>> SHE'S JUST LYING THROUGH HER
TEETH AND LEADING HIM ON OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE KEEPS ON
GOING BACK FOR MORE.
THIS STORY COULD GO ANYWHERE.
IT COULD LEAD US ANYWHERE, TO
ANYONE.
PULLING UP ON MIKE.
>> [knocks]
HEY.
>> HEY, GUYS.
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
>> HOW'RE YOU DOING?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M DOING ALL RIGHT.
>> WOW.
>> BIG MIKE.
>> SHOW US YOUR ROOM.
SHOW US YOUR ART.
>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
>> IT'S REALLY COOL.
>> I REALLY LIKE THAT.
AND THIS GIRL IS REALLY COOL
TOO.
>> YEAH.
IS THIS FINISHED?
>> THAT'S UNFINISHED.
>> YOU'VE GOT SOME UNFINISHED
BUSINESS...
>> WE DO.
>> BOTH IN YOUR ART AND IN YOUR
HEART.
>> YES.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S HANG
OUT, AND YOU CAN SHOW US
CAROLINE AND BRING US UP TO
SPEED ON THIS RELATIONSHIP.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LET'S SEE HERE.
WHAT DO WE GOT?
HERE IS CAROLINE'S FACEBOOK
PAGE.
>> IN THE BEGINNING, SHE SAID
HER NAME WAS CAROLINE RHODES.
IT WAS VERY LIMITED, AS FAR AS
NOT GIVING A WHOLE LOT OF
INFORMATION.
>> OKAY.
>> AND THEN TRYING TO MEET HER,
I WAS DOING GOOGLE IMAGE.
I ACTUALLY FOUND A PUBLIC SITE
THAT'S CAROLINE OLIVIA LEDFORD.
IT'S BEEN UPDATED WITH MORE
INFORMATION, MORE PHOTOS.
>> WAIT.
MY QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU EVER
INTERACTED WITH THE FACEBOOK
PROFILE OF CAROLINE LEDFORD?
>> I'VE TRIED TO.
>> HAS SHE EVER WRITTEN BACK?
>> NO.
>> DID YOU EXPLAIN YOUR
SITUATION TO HER?
>> YEAH, BRIEFLY.
I WAS KIND OF LIKE, "WELL, HEY,
I'M FRIENDS WITH YOU ON YOUR
OTHER PROFILE.
HOW COME YOU HAVEN'T WRITTEN ME
BACK?"
>> YOU ASSUMED THAT CAROLINE
JUST HAD TWO PROFILES?
>> I ASSUME THAT I'M EITHER
BEING IGNORED BY THE ONE WHO
IS...
>> THE REAL CAROLINE.
>> THE REAL YOU, AND I'M TALKING
TO THIS BLANK PROFILE OF WHAT I
THINK IS YOU.
>> OR I'M TALKING TO SOMEBODY
ELSE WHO'S TAKING PICTURES FROM
SOMEONE...
>> RIGHT.
>> PRETENDING TO BE THEM.
>> AND THERE WAS A PERIOD OF
TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD
ASK QUESTIONS.
THEN SHE CAME OUT AND TOLD ME,
YOU KNOW, HER PARENTS WERE
DIVORCED.
RHODES IS HER MOTHER'S NAME.
LEDFORD IS HER FATHER'S.
>> IF BOTH PROFILES ARE, IN
FACT, REGISTERED AND RUN BY THE
SAME GIRL, ALL SHE WOULD NEED TO
DO TO PROVE THAT TO YOU WOULD BE
TO RESPOND TO THE MESSAGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> BY THE WAY, THIS DOES NOT
LOOK LIKE THE KIND OF GIRL WHO
HAS SOCIAL ANXIETIES.
>> I KNOW.
AND UNTIL SHE GOT SICK, SHE WAS
VERY ACTIVE.
SHE FOUND OUT THAT SHE HAD
CANCER ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
[sighs]
IT REALLY HIT HOME BECAUSE,
BEFORE I WAS BORN, MY MOM
ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE SAME
TYPE OF CANCER.
>> WOW.
>> I'VE BEEN THAT PERSON THAT
SHE CAN TALK TO.
AND IT'S GOTTEN DEEP ENOUGH TO
WHERE I CAN'T CARRY ON A NORMAL
SOCIAL LIFE, AS FAR AS WOMEN,
BECAUSE I'M STILL INVESTED IN
CAROLINE.
>> FOR ME, THE REAL QUESTION IS,
WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS HAVE
COME UP AS A RESULT OF THE FACT
THAT YOU GUYS LIVE IN THE SAME
CITY?
>> THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES
WHERE SHE'S BEEN CLOSE, AND THEN
IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENED.
SHE ACTUALLY HAD HER FRIEND
DRIVE BY MY HOUSE ONE NIGHT.
AND SHE CALLED ME AFTER THE FACT
AND SAID SHE LEFT A NOTE ON MY
JEEP.
>> WELL, WHAT DID THE NOTE SAY?
>> IT SAID, LIKE, "I CAN'T WAIT
TO SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BOO-BEAR."
SHE'S EVEN TAKEN PICTURES OF THE
OUTSIDE OF THE WORK.
>> AND SENT THEM TO YOU?
>> AND SENT THEM TO ME.
>> THAT'S CREEPY AND KIND OF
STALKER-ISH.
>> YEAH.
IT'S SCARY, AT TIMES.
IN A SENSE, I WAS BEING WATCHED.
>> YOU HAVE A STALKER.
>> IT'S--
>> YOU'VE PROBABLY MET THIS
PERSON.
WHY ARE YOU TORTURING YOURSELF?
>> HOW CAN I JUST LEAVE SOMEBODY
WHO I'M THAT TIED TO?
I LOVE WHO SHE IS, AND I CAN'T
BREAK FREE OF THE HOLD SHE HAS
ON ME.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, LOOK.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED...
>> YEAH.
>> DARK, STRANGE, TROUBLING
RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU'RE IN.
YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH THIS GIRL,
SO I WANT THIS TO WORK OUT OR
BEING ABLE TO KIND OF WALK AWAY
AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
>> SHE IS SOMEBODY THAT I'M
TRYING TO SEEK, AND I REALLY
HAVE FEELINGS FOR HER.
>> WE'LL DO OUR BEST, MAN.
IT'S AN INTRIGUING CASE.
>> WE'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE
BIT, ALL RIGHT?
>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS.
>> WOW.
THIS IS MAYBE THE MOST
MANIPULATIVE CATFISH WE'VE EVER
SEEN.
YOU CAN'T AGGRESSIVELY CALL
SOMEONE A LIAR WHEN THEY TELL
YOU THEY HAVE CANCER, BECAUSE
THAT'S THE MOST INSENSITIVE
THING SOMEONE COULD DO.
I MEAN, SHE HAS REALLY CROSSED
THE LINE.
>> THAT'S ONLY A SMALL PIECE OF
THIS.
HE REALLY, GENUINELY BELIEVES
HER.
HE JUST WANTS TO MEET THE GIRL
THAT HE FELL IN LOVE WITH.
>> ALL RIGHT. INTO THE SUITE.
>> SUITE CAROLINE.
>> HAIR IS LONG.
>> OKAY.
SO MIKE HAS A SERIOUSLY BAD CASE
OF THE CRAZY CAROLINES.
AND SHE'S BEEN AVOIDING MEETING
HIM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW,
HAS ANXIETY ABOUT MEETING, THEN
IT WAS, "I'M SICK WITH CANCER"
AND SHE'S STRUGGLING WITH THAT.
>> SHE'S SEEN HIM AROUND TOWN.
>> YEAH.
THAT'S--THAT'S THE WEIRDEST
THING.
>> SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT SHE'S
LOCAL.
>> SHE EVEN DROVE BY HIS HOUSE
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND
LEFT A NOTE ON HIS CAR.
SO HERE'S THE PAGE THAT MIKE WAS
FIRST FRIENDS WITH.
THERE'S NOT A LOT ON HERE.
>> SHE LIVES IN PENSACOLA.
>> SHE'S GOT ONE COVER PHOTO,
THREE PROFILE PICTURES, AND
THAT'S IT.
DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE OTHER
CAROLINE PROFILE?
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY, SO HERE'S THE PROFILE
THAT MIKE FOUND, CAROLINE
LEDFORD, WHO WE SUSPECT IS MORE
LIKELY TO BE REAL THAN THE GIRL
HE'S TALKING TO.
WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANY MENTION OF BEING
SICK.
SHE'S JUST SMILING IT UP.
HER HOMETOWN'S NORTH CAROLINA.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD REACH OUT
TO THIS GIRL.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD.
WE SUSPECT THAT YOUR IMAGE MIGHT
HAVE BEEN USED IN ASSOCIATION
WITH A FAKE ACCOUNT AND WOULD
LOVE TO SPEAK TO YOU BRIEFLY TO
CONFIRM THIS.
ALL RIGHT, I'M SENDING.
>> SEND IT.
>> HERE'S A PICTURE THAT HAS 70
LIKES, SEVEN COMMENTS.
LAUREN COMMENTED ON IT.
>> I THINK IT'S WORTH REACHING
OUT TO THIS GIRL.
SHE WOULD KNOW IF HER FRIEND WAS
GOING THROUGH CHEMO...
>> RIGHT.
>> ALL THAT STUFF.
>> SO LET'S SEND LAUREN A
MESSAGE BECAUSE SHE IS REALLY
FRIENDS WITH CAROLINE.
SENDING.
>> SEND IT.
WHY DON'T WE LOOK UP THE GEOTAG
ON THE PICTURES THAT SHE SENT
MIKE?
IF YOU HAVE GEOTAGGING TURNED ON
ON YOUR PHONE, SHE COULD GET THE
PICTURE FROM ANYWHERE.
BUT IF SHE UPLOADS IT, THEN THAT
WILL GEOTAG IT WHEREVER IT WAS
UPLOADED.
>> AND THERE'S A VERY GOOD
CHANCE THAT GEOTAG ON THAT PHOTO
IS ACTUALLY WHERE SHE LIVES OR
SPENDS TIME.
>> OH, MY GOD.
ONE OF THE SELFIES OF HER WAS
UPLOADED RIGHT HERE IN
PENSACOLA.
THAT'S CRAZY.
THIS PERSON LIVES, LIKE, RIGHT
NEXT TO MIKE.
[cell phone rings]
>> HELLO?
>> YES.
>> WELL, GREAT.
I'M HERE WITH MAX, AND MAYBE YOU
CAN HELP US OUT.
IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT YOU'RE
NEAR A COMPUTER SO THAT WE CAN
VIDEO CHAT?
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> HEY.
HERE'S WHY WE'RE CALLING.
THERE'S A GUY NAMED MIKE.
HE MET A GIRL ON PLENTY OF FISH
WHO'S USING PICTURES OF YOUR
FRIEND, CAROLINE, WHO SAYS SHE
LIVES IN PENSACOLA AND SAYS SHE
CURRENTLY IS GOING THROUGH
TREATMENT FOR CANCER.
IS ANY OF THAT TRUE IN REGARDS
TO YOUR FRIEND CAROLINE?
>> AND IN THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF, HAS SHE EVER MENTIONED A
GUY NAMED MIKE, WHO LIVES IN
FLORIDA?
>> RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. BYE, LAUREN.
THANK YOU.
>> SO IT IS OFFICIALLY, NOW, NOT
CAROLINE LEDFORD.
>> RIGHT.
MIKE'S CAROLINE IS PRETENDING TO
BE THIS GIRL.
LET'S WAIT TO GET A CALL BACK
FROM CAROLINE SO THAT WE CAN SEE
HER FACE AND RECORD A VIDEO TO
SHOW TO MIKE.
AT LEAST IT'LL BE A STEP IN THE
DIRECTION OF HIM FINDING OUT THE
TRUTH AND MOVING ON WITH HIS
LIFE.
>> GOOD MORNING, NEV.
DID YOU GET ANYTHING?
>> LET'S SEE.
>> UH-OH, YOU GOT SOMETHING!
>> I DO HAVE A MESSAGE FROM
CAROLINE.
>> THERE IT IS.
>> "HI!
YES, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK WITH
YOU."
>> both: SHE SENT FROM NORTH
CAROLINA.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO SHE'S NOT HERE.
>> OKAY. READY?
>> YEAH.
[phone line rings]
>> HELLO, CAROLINE?
>> HEY, SO WE JUST GOT YOUR
MESSAGE BACK ON FACEBOOK.
I'D LOVE TO EXPLAIN ALL THIS TO
YOU.
THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, FOR US,
WOULD BE A VIDEO CHAT .
>> OH, OKAY.
HOLD ON, HERE WE GO.
>> YES.
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> HI. IT'S ME.
>> WOW, IT'S CAROLINE.
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> AND MAX.
>> HEY, CAROLINE.
>> SO WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A GUY
NAMED MIKE...
>> OKAY.
>> A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, MIKE
WENT ON PLENTY OF FISH.
HE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A GIRL OFF
THE WEBSITE NAMED CAROLINE.
AND CAROLINE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE
YOU.
YOU DON'T KNOW A MIKE FROM
PENSACOLA, FLORIDA, DO YOU?
>> MIKE MESSAGED YOU.
>> ME?
>> HE SENT YOU A FACEBOOK
MESSAGE.
>> YOU NEVER RESPONDED.
>> SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY
HELP MIKE OUT, I THINK, IS IF
YOU LOOKED DIRECTLY INTO THE
CAMERA AND TALKED TO HIM.
>> OKAY.
>> PERFECT.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY NICE.
>> THANK YOU, CAROLINE.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY, SEE Y'ALL. BYE.
>> BYE.
MIKE IS GONNA BE PRETTY SHOCKED
WHEN HE SEES THIS VIDEO.
>> WELL, WHOEVER'S BEHIND THIS
STOLE PICTURES FROM THE REAL
CAROLINE'S FACEBOOK PAGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> SHE'S OBVIOUSLY GOOD AT
PRETENDING.
>> AND I THINK THAT HE'S IN
DEEP.
HE'S IN OVER HIS HEAD.
HE'S CAUGHT IN THE WEB.
HE'S A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT COULD BE A
GUY, IT COULD BE A GIRL, IT
COULD BE AN OLDER WOMAN, YOUNGER
WOMAN.
IT COULD BE ANYBODY.
[phone line rings]
>> MIKE.
WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY SERIOUS
STUFF TO GO OVER.
WE WANTED TO MEET UP WITH YOU.
ALL RIGHT, DUDE.
SO WE'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE
BIT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> READY FOR SOME ANSWERS?
>> LET'S GO.
>> WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU A
VIDEO CHAT THAT WE HAD WITH
CAROLINE THIS MORNING.
>> HI.
HI, MIKE.
MY NAME IS CAROLINE.
WE HAVE NEVER SPOKEN BEFORE.
MY LAST NAME IS NOT RHODES.
I DO NOT HAVE CANCER.
AND I'VE HEARD YOU MESSAGED ME
ONE DAY ON FACEBOOK.
MAYBE WE'LL ACTUALLY GET TO
MEET.
BUT YEAH, I'M NOT CAROLINE
RHODES, AND I'M SO SORRY.
>> THAT'S IT.
>> * I'M NOT SO GOOD ANYMORE *
>> IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE KIND
OF PUT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND,
THAT SHE'S GOT TO BE WHO I
THOUGHT SHE WAS.
AND SHE'S NOT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I'VE BEEN
TALKING TO.
>> * ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU TEND *
* TO LIGHT UP FOR
>> SO NOW WE KNOW IT'S NOT THE
GIRL IN THE PICTURES.
WHO IS IT?
SO THAT'S WHAT WE SPENT MOST OF
LAST NIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE IT, BUT
ANY PICTURE YOU TAKE WITH YOUR
PHONE IS GEOTAGGED.
>> THE PICTURE OF HER SMILING IS
GEOTAGGED TO A VERY SPECIFIC
STREET.
>> YOU KNOW, SHE TOLD ME WHERE
SHE LIVED.
>> REALLY?
>> I DROVE OVER THERE.
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT SHE HAD
TOLD YOU WHERE SHE'S CURRENTLY
LIVING.
WE COULD'VE USED THAT INFO.
>> I DROVE IN HERE, AND I PARKED
RIGHT HERE.
AND I'M TALKING TO HER ON THE
PHONE.
I WENT, "HEY, YOU KNOW, I'M
STANDING RIGHT HERE.
WHY DON'T YOU COME OUTSIDE?"
AND SHE TOLD ME, "YOU MIGHT AS
WELL GO HOME, 'CAUSE I'M NOT
COMING OUT."
>> YOU'VE PROBABLY MET THIS
PERSON.
>> THEY CLEARLY KNOW WHO YOU ARE
AT THIS POINT.
>> WHO WOULD DO THAT?
THAT'S SOMEBODY I FELT LIKE I
KNEW.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT I FELT
LIKE I HAD A CONNECTION WITH.
>> ALL THAT IS REALLY LEFT TO DO
IS TO JUST CALL HER AND SORT OF
LAY IT ALL OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN
GET HER TO FINALLY MEET UP.
>> MAYBE AT THAT POINT IN TIME,
THE SUPPOSED ANXIETY WILL GO
AWAY AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS WILL
COME OUT.
>> WANT TO CHILL OUT FOR A
SECOND?
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
>> FEEL STUPID.
I TRUST EVERYBODY UNTIL THEY
GIVE ME A REASON NOT TO TRUST
THEM.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S JUST A
HUGE, HUGE LETDOWN.
YOU KNOW, NOW I DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NOT.
>> I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE
THING THAT'S BEEN HOLDING
CAROLINE BACK FOR THE LAST YEAR
AND A HALF--IT'S REALLY JUST THE
ANXIETY SURROUNDING WHAT MIKE
WILL SAY OR THINK WHEN HE FINDS
OUT SHE'S NOT THE GIRL IN THE
PICTURES.
>> WE'VE SEEN, ALSO, IN
SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN
THE SAME CITY, THAT THE PERSON
REALLY DOESN'T WANT ANYTHING TO
DO...
>> YES.
>> WITH THE OTHER PERSON, YOU
KNOW?
>> THAT'S TRUE.
THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY
THAT THEIR WHOLE RELATIONSHIP
ONLINE IS JUST A GAME.
I HAVE A FEELING THAT WHEN WE
SPEAK TO HER, WE'LL GET A SENSE
OF WHETHER OR NOT SHE FEELS THAT
WAY.
>> DO THE HONORS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
I DON'T EVEN THINK HER NAME IS
CAROLINE.
>> IT'S CLEARLY NOT CAROLINE.
[phone line ringing]
>> YES, HI.
IS THIS CAROLINE?
HI, THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN FROM
THE SHOW CATFISH.
WE'RE ACTUALLY IN PENSACOLA.
I WOULD SAY I COULD PROVE IT TO
YOU VIA A VIDEO CALL IF YOU
WANTED.
>> WE'RE HERE HELPING MIKE.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TELL
HIM YOUR NAME IF IT ISN'T
CAROLINE.
WE DID REACH OUT TO CAROLINE
LEDFORD ON A VIDEO CALL.
WE'RE 100% SURE.
AND WE SHOWED THAT VIDEO TO
MIKE.
>> OHH...
>> MIKE STILL FEELS AN INTENSE
CONNECTION AND CLOSENESS TO YOU,
AND HE STILL WANTS TO MEET YOU.
>> WHAT'S--YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN
KEEPING YOU FROM MEETING UP WITH
HIM?
IF THERE WAS ONE GUY I WOULD NOT
BE NERVOUS TO MEET, IT'S MIKE.
ARE YOU FREE THIS AFTERNOON?
WE CAN MEET YOU AT YOUR HOUSE.
OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
WE COULD MEET YOU AT A PARK.
I GUARANTEE YOU YOU'LL FEEL SO
MUCH BETTER.
>> WE'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE
BIT.
>> WELL, THIS IS GOOD NEWS TO
TELL MIKE.
>> LET'S GET GOING.
I THINK THEY PROBABLY KNOW EACH
OTHER.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> AND IF SHE TOLD US HER
NAME...
>> IT WOULD BE A DEAD GIVEAWAY.
>> RIGHT.
HERE WE ARE.
[knocks]
>> WHAT'S UP?
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER
THAN YESTERDAY.
>> WE SPOKE TO CAROLINE, AND I
TOLD HER, I SAID, "LOOK, HE
KNOWS YOU'RE NOT THAT GIRL."
SHE WAS A LITTLE, SORT OF,
SHOCKED.
>> YEAH.
>> GOOD NEWS IS, ASSUMING SHE
SHOWS UP, I THINK WE ARE GOING
TO MEET HER TODAY.
>> I'M READY.
>> YOU'RE READY TO GO.
>> YEP.
>> THEN LET'S GET GOING.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> AFTER YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> OH, BOY.
IT IS REALLY HAPPENING.
>> I'M FEELING WORRIED.
AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW,
ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE.
I HAVE A LOT EMOTIONALLY
INVESTED IN CAROLINE.
>> * EVERYTHING
* I THOUGHT I KNEW
* 'TWAS A LIE *
* TWINED AND TWISTED TRUE
>> OH, MAN. THE ANTICIPATION.
>> HOW ARE THOSE BUTTERFLIES?
>> DEFINITELY BACK.
JUST NERVOUS.
>> THERE'S THE PARK.
>> WE'VE ARRIVED.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE
IN, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> [exhales]
>> SHE MIGHT NOT SHOW UP, BRO.
YOU KNOW.
>> I MEAN, I'VE WAITED MAYBE AN
HOUR BEFORE.
RECENTLY, IT'S GOTTEN TO WHERE,
YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
WITHIN 10, 15 MINUTES, I JUST
KIND OF HAVE GONE BACK HOME.
>> WAIT, HERE COMES A CAR.
I THINK THIS IS IT, GUYS.
>> YEAH.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> NEV.
>> I'M HEATHER.
>> OKAY, HI, HEATHER.
>> HI.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> HI.
I'M SORRY.
I'M VERY--I'M VERY SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
>> WHY?
>> HOW DO I START?
YOU REMEMBER CLAIRE?
>> YEP.
>> WHEN MY FRIEND AND I MADE THE
FAKE PROFILE AND WE PRETENDED TO
BE CLAIRE TO SEE IF HER HUSBAND
WAS CHEATING ON HER, I WAS JUST
TALKING TO PEOPLE, AND YOU SENT
ME A MESSAGE.
YOU JUST STARTED TALKING TO ME.
AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL AS
CRAP.
AND SO I GAVE YOU MY NUMBER, MY
REAL NUMBER.
I SENT YOU A PICTURE, AND I WAS
LIKE, "HEY, MY NAME IS HEATHER.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY
DOING."
AND YOU WERE NOT VERY NICE.
YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE MY FRIEND.
AND SO I GOT UPSET.
SO I WENT AND MADE CAROLINE.
I ORIGINALLY DID IT JUST TO BE
MEAN BECAUSE I WAS MAD AT YOU.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT IN
COMMON.
WE LIKE THE SAME STUFF, WE DO
THE SAME THINGS, WE HAVE THE
SAME PERSONALITY.
AND I DIDN'T--I DIDN'T MEAN TO
FALL IN LOVE WITH YOU.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO START CARING
ABOUT YOU.
JUST HAPPENED.
>> BUT WHY KEEP UP THE LIE FOR
SO LONG?
>> I TRIED NOT TO.
I TRIED TO LEAVE.
THEN, AFTER ABOUT A MONTH, I
MISSED YOU.
HOW DO YOU GET RID OF SOMEBODY
WHO'S AN INTRICATE PART OF YOUR
LIFE, WHO YOU TELL ALL OF YOUR
STUFF TO?
>> WHAT DO I ACTUALLY KNOW TO BE
TRUE?
>> YEAH, I MADE A FAKE PICTURE.
IT'S NOT WHAT I LOOK LIKE.
EVERYTHING ELSE I TOLD YOU IS
ME.
>> DO YOU HAVE CANCER?
>> NO. I'M NOT SICK.
WHEN I SAID THAT I WAS SICK, I
WAS AT THE POINT WHERE I COULD
TELL THAT YOU WERE FRUSTRATED
AND YOU WERE GONNA LEAVE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
I DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE MICHAEL
IN MY LIFE.
NO MATTER HOW I CAN HAVE YOU,
OTHER THAN BEING SICK AND BEING
A TEACHER AND WHAT I LOOK LIKE
AND MY NAME, IS REAL.
>> I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK
SO LONG FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
>> 'CAUSE I WAS SCARED.
I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY
TIMES I WALKED INTO YOUR WORK
AND TURNED AROUND AND WALKED
BACK OUT.
I WILL DO WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO
TO MAKE IT UP TO YOU.
>> WE ASKED YOU THAT SAME
QUESTION.
WHY WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO PUT
YOURSELF THROUGH THIS?
>> IT WAS BEING HOPEFUL.
IT WAS BELIEVING YOU.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD LET THINGS
SETTLE TODAY.
>> YEAH.
>> I'M SORRY THAT IT CAME TO
THIS.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE
SHOULD SPLIT UP FOR A LITTLE
WHILE.
>> * I CAN SEE IT FROM HERE
* THE END IS COMING
*
* YOU SAID TO ME
*IT WON'T BE LONG NOW *
*
>> [sobbing]
>> LET'S GO TALK ABOUT THIS.
WHAT DID YOU LEARN?
>> THAT I'M WAY TOO TRUSTING,
AND IT'S JUST BEEN A ROLLER
COASTER SINCE DAY ONE.
>> THIS GIRL OBVIOUSLY DESERVES
SOME CREDIT FOR FINALLY COMING
CLEAN.
>> SO GIVING HER A CHANCE TO
HONESTLY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU
WILL PROBABLY BE A REALLY
HELPFUL THING FOR HER.
AND IT WILL ALSO GIVE YOU A
CHANCE TO EXPRESS HOW YOU FEEL,
BECAUSE I THINK SHE NEEDS TO
KNOW.
>> * OH, MY LOVER
*
* OH, HOW I'VE COME*
* TO DISCOVER
[phone line rings]
>> HELLO, HEATHER?
WE'RE OVER AT MIKE'S PLACE, AND
WE'RE WONDERING IF YOU WOULD
WANT TO COME OVER AND TALK ABOUT
ALL THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
>> * WHEN EVERYTHING IS LOST
* AND EVERYTHING'S THE SAME *
* YOU HAVE NO FEAR
* YOU FEEL NO PAIN
>> HEY.
>> HI.
>> COME ON.
>> HI.
>> COME ON IN.
>> HERE, HAVE A SEAT.
YESTERDAY...
>> WAS A LOT.
>> WAS A LOT, AND IT LEFT US
WITH A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
ALSO, CONCERN FOR YOU.
AND HEATHER, YOU MUST'VE KNOWN
THAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
MICHAEL WAS CAUSING HIM STRESS.
>> I MEAN, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE
DYING.
>> I KNOW.
NOT MY SMARTEST THING.
>> THE CANCER THING--IT'S A
PRETTY DEVASTATING LIE BECAUSE
IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ANYONE
TALKING TO YOU AT THAT POINT TO
LET YOU GO.
DO YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS
CANCER?
>> UH-HUH, WHICH PROBABLY MAKES
IT EVEN MORE AWFUL THAT I SAID
THAT.
MY GRANDPA DIED FROM LUNG CANCER
IN 2000.
MY AUNT DIED FROM BREAST CANCER,
AND THAT RUNS IN MY FAMILY.
>> MY DAD, WHO WAS A...
RECENTLY DIAGNOSED WITH
DIABETES.
SO IT'S BEEN A...
HUGE CHANGE WITHIN THE FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, YOU CONSTANTLY MAKE
SURE HE'S OKAY.
>> SO FOR A WHILE, YOU WERE
WORRIED ABOUT YOUR DAD BEING
SICK, AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU
WERE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A
GIRL WHO WAS DYING OF CANCER.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S WHEN I FELT THE MOST
AWFUL THAT I'D MADE THAT UP.
IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE THE LOWEST
PERSON EVER.
>> IT TAKES A CERTAIN KIND OF
SITUATION TO LEAD TO BUILDING A
FAKE PROFILE AND LYING TO
SOMEONE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
>> I WAS AFRAID THAT I WAS GONNA
LOSE SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN VERY
IMPORTANT TO ME.
I HAD TO DO WHATEVER I COULD TO
TRY TO KEEP HIM.
I DON'T LET PEOPLE IN.
HE'S THE FIRST PERSON I EVER LET
IN.
I TOLD HIM THINGS THAT I'VE
NEVER TOLD OTHER PEOPLE.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU DON'T
HATE ME.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY
NEVER FORGIVE ME.
AND I'M SORRY.
>> YOU DO NEED HELP.
AND YOU NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY
WHO WILL LISTEN TO YOU AND HELP
YOU, NOT JUST LISTEN TO YOU.
>> NEV AND I HAVE BOTH GONE TO
THERAPY.
AND IT'S NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED
OF.
>> I'VE FELT THE WAY YOU FEEL,
SOMEWHAT HOPELESS, DAUNTING TASK
OF WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?
SO WE CARE.
WE WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED.
>> OKAY.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> * YOU NEED NOT HAVE COME
* TO MY LAIR
* YOU DO NOT KNOW
* WHO YOU'LL FIND IN THERE *
[thunder rumbles]
>> [sobbing]
>> * SINK MY CLAWS
* INTO THE SNOW
>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH: THE
TV SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
>> IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK, BUT
ONE LAST CRAZY THING.
>> THERE IS A SILVER LINING IN
ALL THIS, MAYBE.
>> SO HAVE A SEAT.
OKAY.
CLOSE YOUR EYES.
[computer chimes]
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> I'M CAROLINE.
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL.
>> IT'S NICE TO FINALLY MEET
YOU.
>> YEAH.
>> I FEEL LIKE I ALREADY KNOW
YOU, BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE ODD.
>> I KNOW.
I'M SURE IT'S REALLY WEIRD FOR
YOU.
IT'S WEIRD FOR ME, AND I CAN'T
IMAGINE A YEAR AND A HALF.
>> YEAH. IT'S BEEN VERY HARD.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALL GONNA
WORK OUT FOR THE BETTER.
>> WELL, I'M SURE MY VOICE IS A
LOT MORE SOUTHERN THAN HERS TOO.
>> NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
IT'S ATTRACTIVE.
>> THANKS.
OH, GOSH, NOW MY FACE IS TURNING
RED.
>> [laughs]
>> I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT YOU
DO.
>> I'M AN ARTIST.
>> I'M ACTUALLY REALLY ARTISTIC
TOO.
>> GET OUT OF HERE.
>> YEAH.
>> I DRAW AND PAINT.
THIS IS A DRAWING I DID OUT OF
CHARCOAL OF MAX.
>> [laughs]
>> THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF A
RESEMBLANCE HERE.
[both laugh]
I'D REALLY LIKE TO POTENTIALLY
TALK TO YOU MORE IF YOU'RE
INTERESTED.
>> DEFINITELY IM ME ON FACEBOOK.
>> I WILL FRIEND YOU ON
FACEBOOK, AND WE WILL GO FROM
THERE.
>> GOOD-NIGHT. SEE YOU.
>> BYE.
[computer chimes]
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?
>> WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU AND
MIKE?
>> I HAVE ONLY TALKED TO HIM
TWICE.
IT'S HARD EVERY DAY, 'CAUSE I
MISS HIM AND I WANT TO TALK TO
HIM.
BUT WHEN I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO
TALK TO HIM, I TALK TO SOMEBODY
ELSE.
I HAD A COME-TO-JESUS MEETING
WITH MYSELF AND REALIZED THAT
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
WERE GOING ON IN MY LIFE THAT
CAUSED ME TO DO WHAT I DID.
I ALSO TOOK THIS AS A MOTIVATION
TO HELP BETTER MYSELF.
SO I'VE CHANGED MY EATING HABITS
AND I ALSO STARTED A BLOG.
AND I'M WRITING EVERYTHING DOWN
THAT ONLY ME AND, LIKE, GOD
KNOW.
AND I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO
MAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC, SOON, SO
THAT EVERYBODY CAN READ IT.
BUT I HAVEN'T DECIDED WHEN
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
>> WOW.
>> I DID A LOT OF WORK IN ME.
SO...
>> WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR IT, AND
HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL KEEP GOING
WELL AND WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> THANKS, GUYS.
>> BYE, HEATHER.
>> SEE YOU.
[computer chimes]
>> OH!
>> HEY!
>> BIG MIKE.
>> BIG MIKE!
>> * OH, LIFE GOES ON
>> I'M PRETTY MUCH OVER IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE
THINGS WHERE YOU WISH HER THE
BEST, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AS
A PERSON AM WAY MORE CAUTIOUS
THAN I'VE EVER BEEN, AS FAR AS
SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT ABOUT ANY PROSPECTS WITH
THE LADIES?
>> I'VE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW,
TEXTED CAROLINE A LITTLE BIT
HERE AND THERE.
>> HOW'S THAT GOING?
>> SHE'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
ATTRACTIVE.
SHE'S COOL.
SO, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> * LIFE GOES ON
>> ALL RIGHT, MIKE.
GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING.
>> LATER.
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00:40:35.
>> HOW ARE THOSE BUTTERFLIES?
>> DEFINITELY BACK.
JUST NERVOUS.
>> SO WE'VE ARRIVED.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE
IN, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> [exhales]
>> I THINK THIS IS IT, GUYS.
>> HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.
LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, FIGURING OUT THE
TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE ROMANCES.
I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU IF
YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY READY.
>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.
>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED
DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.
>> GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
WE MADE A FEW LOVE
CONNECTIONS...
>> IT FEELS AMAZING.
>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE
OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.
>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP NOW.
>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF
CATFISHING, HIDING WHO YOU
REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO
AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...
>> A BEAUTY PAGEANT WINNER, A
MODEL...
>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY A
LOT OF YOU.
GOT AN EMAIL HERE.
"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE
WITH?"
SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT
ON THE ROAD...
MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.
>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.
>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS
RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
>> JESUS, MAN.
WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT
SHOCK?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND
I WILL FIND OUT ALL THE ANSWERS.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES, A LITTLE BIT
OF FICTION...
>> WOW.
CATFISH CURVEBALL.
>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF
REALITY.
>> THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE
SAME.
>> ARE WE READY?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.
HEY, EVERYBODY. I'M NEV.
>> MAX.
>> AND WE ARE IN: ATLANTA.
>> ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
RIGHT HERE.
I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A VIEW OF
THE CATFISH CAPITAL.
SO MANY CATFISH JUST SWIMMING
AROUND OUT THERE.
CAN YOU SEE THEM?
>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S DIVE IN.
"NEV AND MAX, MY NAME IS
MICHAEL.
I AM 27 AND LIVE IN PENSACOLA,
FLORIDA.
I AM IN DESPERATE NEED OF YOUR
ASSISTANCE.
I MET THIS GIRL NAMED CAROLINE
ON A DATING WEBSITE.
THE MAIN PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT
CAROLINE AND I LIVE IN THE SAME
CITY.
HOWEVER, I HAVE STILL YET TO
MEET HER."
>> WAIT. TIME OUT.
IF YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO
LIVES IN YOUR CITY, AND THEY
DON'T WANT TO MEET UP WITH YOU,
THEY'RE A CATFISH, AND YOU
SHOULD RUN.
>> OKAY.
"IT HAS BEEN ROUGHLY A YEAR AND
A HALF NOW SINCE WE FIRST MET.
I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING IN MY
POWER TO MEET THIS GIRL, AND
NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK.
SHE ALWAYS CANCELS LAST-MINUTE,
STANDS ME UP, OR FLEES WHEN I
SHOW UP.
I HAVE ALSO TRIED ON MULTIPLE
OCCASIONS TO VIDEO CHAT WITH
HER.
HER CAMERA IS BROKEN OR COVERED.
SHE CLAIMS THAT IT'S ALL
ANXIETY-DRIVEN PROBLEMS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WONDER
IF THE PROBLEM IS ME."
HOLD ON. HOLD ON.
"THE STORY GETS DEEPER, TOO."
>> UH-OH.
>> "SHE IS SUPPOSEDLY IN THE
MIDDLE OF BEING TREATED FOR
COLON CANCER, WHICH MAKES EVERY
DAY HARDER BECAUSE IN DEVELOPING
A DEEP CARE FOR HER, IT'S VERY
HARD TO NOT BE AROUND.
I'VE TRIED THE IMAGE SEARCH
TRICKS THAT I LEARNED FROM THE
SHOW AND RESEARCHED ON MY OWN.
AND NOTHING I'VE DONE SEEMS TO
WORK TOWARDS MY ULTIMATE GOAL OF
MEETING CAROLINE."
>> * ARE YOU THE BRUTAL HEART
* ARE YOU THE BRUTAL HEART
* THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR *
>> "CAROLINE IS THE PERFECT
PERSON FOR ME.
I FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH WE
HAVEN'T MET, THE BOND WE'VE
BUILT OVER THIS TIME IS STRONGER
THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER HAD WITH
ANYONE ELSE.
I WOULD LIKE IT VERY MUCH IF YOU
GUYS WOULD HELP ME SOLVE THE
MYSTERY OF THIS DILEMMA."
>> * SO USE ME
>> "HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
MICHAEL."
EVEN IF SHE IS THE GIRL WHO SHE
SAYS SHE IS, AND EVEN IF SHE IS
DEALING WITH COLON CANCER, WHY
MAKE PLANS WITH SOMEONE TIME AND
TIME AGAIN, ONLY TO NOT SHOW UP?
>> THAT'S WHY HE NEEDS US.
>> ALL RIGHT.
I'M GONNA CALL THIS GUY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> HEY... HOW YOU DOING, BUDDY?
>> I'M DOING ALL RIGHT.
LONG DAY AT WORK TODAY, SO
FINALLY GOT HOME.
>> WHO DO YOU LIVE WITH?
>> WITH THE TWO COOLEST
ROOMMATES IN THE WORLD...
MY PARENTS.
>> VERY NICE.
I THINK I SAW A LITTLE BIT OF
YOUR ART ON YOUR OOVOO ICON.
>> YEAH.
>> ARE YOU PURSUING A CAREER AS
A PROFESSIONAL ARTIST?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO.
>> JUST EXPLAIN TO US, SO YOU
MET CAROLINE ON A DATING
WEBSITE?
>> RIGHT, PLENTY OF FISH, A YEAR
AND A HALF AGO.
>> SO WHEN DID YOU GUYS START
TALKING ON THE PHONE?
>> IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS
INTO IT.
>> WHY'D YOU GUYS HIT IT OFF?
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT HER?
>> OUR PERSONALITIES JUST KIND
OF MESH REALLY WELL, AND I FELT
REALLY ALIVE.
WE TALK AND WE COULD GOOF AROUND
AND WE COULD BE OURSELVES.
>> * WHY DID WE FALL IN LOVE
* WHY DO WE FALL IN LOVE
>> WHEN IT STARTED GETTING MORE
SERIOUS IS WHEN IT KIND OF
TURNED INTO SHE'S SCARED TO MEET
ME.
AND IT'S BEEN INSTANCES LIKE I
THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO MEET HER
AT WAL-MART.
I CALLED HER, I TOLD HER I WAS
THERE.
SHE WAS INSIDE THE STORE AT THE
TIME.
I GOT OUT OF MY CAR, I WALKED
IN.
NEXT THING I KNOW, SHE TELLS ME
SHE'S LEAVING.
I WALK BACK OUTSIDE.
I SEE A MINI COOPER SPEEDING OFF
THAT RESEMBLES WHAT SHE TOLD ME
SHE DROVE.
IT WAS ANXIETY.
SHE HAD A PANIC ATTACK AND HAD
TO LEAVE.
AND THEN, TOWARDS THE END OF
LAST YEAR, SHE JUST DISAPPEARED.
I COULDN'T GET AHOLD OF HER.
SHE CAME BACK.
SHE SAID SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS
SICK.
AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS SHE
WANTED TO DO WAS MEET ME.
AND I STILL HAVEN'T MET HER.
>> YOU GOT TO ADMIT, IT SOUNDS
PRETTY FISHY.
>> YEAH, IT DOES.
>> RIGHT.
BUT IF THIS GIRL REALLY FELL FOR
YOU THE WAY SHE SAYS AND LOVED
YOU THE WAY SHE DOES, WHY
WOULDN'T SHE WANT TO SEE YOU?
>> AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I'VE
BEEN ASKING MYSELF THIS WHOLE
TIME.
>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, LOOK.
IF YOU'RE READY TO FIND OUT THE
TRUTH, I'M READY TO DO WHATEVER
I CAN TO HELP.
>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS.
I'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> LATER.
MAN.
>> HE'S GOTTEN EVERY RED FLAG
POSSIBLE.
HIS ROOM IS PROBABLY JUST FULL
OF RED FLAGS.
>> HE SHOULD NOT BE TIED UP IN A
MISERABLE RELATIONSHIP...
>> YEAH.
>> THAT CAUSES HIM GRIEF AND
UNHAPPINESS AND STRESS.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHO
THIS GIRL IS AND WHY SHE'S DOING
WHAT SHE'S DOING.
>> WELL, OFF TO FLORIDA.
>> OFF TO FLORIDA.
BIG MYSTERY.
>> PLANE TRAIN. PLANE TRAIN.
>> ALL RIGHT. BIG MIKE.
COMING TO YOU, BUDDY.
>> * WE ARE YOUNG
*WE ARE ONE *
* LET US SHINE
* FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH *
*TO YOUR PLACE PLACE PLACE *
* WE'RE ON OUR WAY *
>> THIS IS THE PENSACOLA BAY,
ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.
>> SHE IS REALLY MESSING WITH
THIS GUY.
>> SHE'S JUST LYING THROUGH HER
TEETH AND LEADING HIM ON OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE KEEPS ON
GOING BACK FOR MORE.
THIS STORY COULD GO ANYWHERE.
IT COULD LEAD US ANYWHERE, TO
ANYONE.
PULLING UP ON MIKE.
>> [knocks]
HEY.
>> HEY, GUYS.
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
>> HOW'RE YOU DOING?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M DOING ALL RIGHT.
>> WOW.
>> BIG MIKE.
>> SHOW US YOUR ROOM.
SHOW US YOUR ART.
>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
>> IT'S REALLY COOL.
>> I REALLY LIKE THAT.
AND THIS GIRL IS REALLY COOL
TOO.
>> YEAH.
IS THIS FINISHED?
>> THAT'S UNFINISHED.
>> YOU'VE GOT SOME UNFINISHED
BUSINESS...
>> WE DO.
>> BOTH IN YOUR ART AND IN YOUR
HEART.
>> YES.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S HANG
OUT, AND YOU CAN SHOW US
CAROLINE AND BRING US UP TO
SPEED ON THIS RELATIONSHIP.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LET'S SEE HERE.
WHAT DO WE GOT?
HERE IS CAROLINE'S FACEBOOK
PAGE.
>> IN THE BEGINNING, SHE SAID
HER NAME WAS CAROLINE RHODES.
IT WAS VERY LIMITED, AS FAR AS
NOT GIVING A WHOLE LOT OF
INFORMATION.
>> OKAY.
>> AND THEN TRYING TO MEET HER,
I WAS DOING GOOGLE IMAGE.
I ACTUALLY FOUND A PUBLIC SITE
THAT'S CAROLINE OLIVIA LEDFORD.
IT'S BEEN UPDATED WITH MORE
INFORMATION, MORE PHOTOS.
>> WAIT.
MY QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU EVER
INTERACTED WITH THE FACEBOOK
PROFILE OF CAROLINE LEDFORD?
>> I'VE TRIED TO.
>> HAS SHE EVER WRITTEN BACK?
>> NO.
>> DID YOU EXPLAIN YOUR
SITUATION TO HER?
>> YEAH, BRIEFLY.
I WAS KIND OF LIKE, "WELL, HEY,
I'M FRIENDS WITH YOU ON YOUR
OTHER PROFILE.
HOW COME YOU HAVEN'T WRITTEN ME
BACK?"
>> YOU ASSUMED THAT CAROLINE
JUST HAD TWO PROFILES?
>> I ASSUME THAT I'M EITHER
BEING IGNORED BY THE ONE WHO
IS...
>> THE REAL CAROLINE.
>> THE REAL YOU, AND I'M TALKING
TO THIS BLANK PROFILE OF WHAT I
THINK IS YOU.
>> OR I'M TALKING TO SOMEBODY
ELSE WHO'S TAKING PICTURES FROM
SOMEONE...
>> RIGHT.
>> PRETENDING TO BE THEM.
>> AND THERE WAS A PERIOD OF
TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD
ASK QUESTIONS.
THEN SHE CAME OUT AND TOLD ME,
YOU KNOW, HER PARENTS WERE
DIVORCED.
RHODES IS HER MOTHER'S NAME.
LEDFORD IS HER FATHER'S.
>> IF BOTH PROFILES ARE, IN
FACT, REGISTERED AND RUN BY THE
SAME GIRL, ALL SHE WOULD NEED TO
DO TO PROVE THAT TO YOU WOULD BE
TO RESPOND TO THE MESSAGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> BY THE WAY, THIS DOES NOT
LOOK LIKE THE KIND OF GIRL WHO
HAS SOCIAL ANXIETIES.
>> I KNOW.
AND UNTIL SHE GOT SICK, SHE WAS
VERY ACTIVE.
SHE FOUND OUT THAT SHE HAD
CANCER ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO.
[sighs]
IT REALLY HIT HOME BECAUSE,
BEFORE I WAS BORN, MY MOM
ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE SAME
TYPE OF CANCER.
>> WOW.
>> I'VE BEEN THAT PERSON THAT
SHE CAN TALK TO.
AND IT'S GOTTEN DEEP ENOUGH TO
WHERE I CAN'T CARRY ON A NORMAL
SOCIAL LIFE, AS FAR AS WOMEN,
BECAUSE I'M STILL INVESTED IN
CAROLINE.
>> FOR ME, THE REAL QUESTION IS,
WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS HAVE
COME UP AS A RESULT OF THE FACT
THAT YOU GUYS LIVE IN THE SAME
CITY?
>> THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES
WHERE SHE'S BEEN CLOSE, AND THEN
IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENED.
SHE ACTUALLY HAD HER FRIEND
DRIVE BY MY HOUSE ONE NIGHT.
AND SHE CALLED ME AFTER THE FACT
AND SAID SHE LEFT A NOTE ON MY
JEEP.
>> WELL, WHAT DID THE NOTE SAY?
>> IT SAID, LIKE, "I CAN'T WAIT
TO SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BOO-BEAR."
SHE'S EVEN TAKEN PICTURES OF THE
OUTSIDE OF THE WORK.
>> AND SENT THEM TO YOU?
>> AND SENT THEM TO ME.
>> THAT'S CREEPY AND KIND OF
STALKER-ISH.
>> YEAH.
IT'S SCARY, AT TIMES.
IN A SENSE, I WAS BEING WATCHED.
>> YOU HAVE A STALKER.
>> IT'S--
>> YOU'VE PROBABLY MET THIS
PERSON.
WHY ARE YOU TORTURING YOURSELF?
>> HOW CAN I JUST LEAVE SOMEBODY
WHO I'M THAT TIED TO?
I LOVE WHO SHE IS, AND I CAN'T
BREAK FREE OF THE HOLD SHE HAS
ON ME.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, LOOK.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED...
>> YEAH.
>> DARK, STRANGE, TROUBLING
RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU'RE IN.
YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH THIS GIRL,
SO I WANT THIS TO WORK OUT OR
BEING ABLE TO KIND OF WALK AWAY
AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
>> SHE IS SOMEBODY THAT I'M
TRYING TO SEEK, AND I REALLY
HAVE FEELINGS FOR HER.
>> WE'LL DO OUR BEST, MAN.
IT'S AN INTRIGUING CASE.
>> WE'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE
BIT, ALL RIGHT?
>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS.
>> WOW.
THIS IS MAYBE THE MOST
MANIPULATIVE CATFISH WE'VE EVER
SEEN.
YOU CAN'T AGGRESSIVELY CALL
SOMEONE A LIAR WHEN THEY TELL
YOU THEY HAVE CANCER, BECAUSE
THAT'S THE MOST INSENSITIVE
THING SOMEONE COULD DO.
I MEAN, SHE HAS REALLY CROSSED
THE LINE.
>> THAT'S ONLY A SMALL PIECE OF
THIS.
HE REALLY, GENUINELY BELIEVES
HER.
HE JUST WANTS TO MEET THE GIRL
THAT HE FELL IN LOVE WITH.
>> ALL RIGHT. INTO THE SUITE.
>> SUITE CAROLINE.
>> HAIR IS LONG.
>> OKAY.
SO MIKE HAS A SERIOUSLY BAD CASE
OF THE CRAZY CAROLINES.
AND SHE'S BEEN AVOIDING MEETING
HIM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW,
HAS ANXIETY ABOUT MEETING, THEN
IT WAS, "I'M SICK WITH CANCER"
AND SHE'S STRUGGLING WITH THAT.
>> SHE'S SEEN HIM AROUND TOWN.
>> YEAH.
THAT'S--THAT'S THE WEIRDEST
THING.
>> SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT SHE'S
LOCAL.
>> SHE EVEN DROVE BY HIS HOUSE
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND
LEFT A NOTE ON HIS CAR.
SO HERE'S THE PAGE THAT MIKE WAS
FIRST FRIENDS WITH.
THERE'S NOT A LOT ON HERE.
>> SHE LIVES IN PENSACOLA.
>> SHE'S GOT ONE COVER PHOTO,
THREE PROFILE PICTURES, AND
THAT'S IT.
DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE OTHER
CAROLINE PROFILE?
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY, SO HERE'S THE PROFILE
THAT MIKE FOUND, CAROLINE
LEDFORD, WHO WE SUSPECT IS MORE
LIKELY TO BE REAL THAN THE GIRL
HE'S TALKING TO.
WELL, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANY MENTION OF BEING
SICK.
SHE'S JUST SMILING IT UP.
HER HOMETOWN'S NORTH CAROLINA.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD REACH OUT
TO THIS GIRL.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD.
WE SUSPECT THAT YOUR IMAGE MIGHT
HAVE BEEN USED IN ASSOCIATION
WITH A FAKE ACCOUNT AND WOULD
LOVE TO SPEAK TO YOU BRIEFLY TO
CONFIRM THIS.
ALL RIGHT, I'M SENDING.
>> SEND IT.
>> HERE'S A PICTURE THAT HAS 70
LIKES, SEVEN COMMENTS.
LAUREN COMMENTED ON IT.
>> I THINK IT'S WORTH REACHING
OUT TO THIS GIRL.
SHE WOULD KNOW IF HER FRIEND WAS
GOING THROUGH CHEMO...
>> RIGHT.
>> ALL THAT STUFF.
>> SO LET'S SEND LAUREN A
MESSAGE BECAUSE SHE IS REALLY
FRIENDS WITH CAROLINE.
SENDING.
>> SEND IT.
WHY DON'T WE LOOK UP THE GEOTAG
ON THE PICTURES THAT SHE SENT
MIKE?
IF YOU HAVE GEOTAGGING TURNED ON
ON YOUR PHONE, SHE COULD GET THE
PICTURE FROM ANYWHERE.
BUT IF SHE UPLOADS IT, THEN THAT
WILL GEOTAG IT WHEREVER IT WAS
UPLOADED.
>> AND THERE'S A VERY GOOD
CHANCE THAT GEOTAG ON THAT PHOTO
IS ACTUALLY WHERE SHE LIVES OR
SPENDS TIME.
>> OH, MY GOD.
ONE OF THE SELFIES OF HER WAS
UPLOADED RIGHT HERE IN
PENSACOLA.
THAT'S CRAZY.
THIS PERSON LIVES, LIKE, RIGHT
NEXT TO MIKE.
[cell phone rings]
>> HELLO?
>> YES.
>> WELL, GREAT.
I'M HERE WITH MAX, AND MAYBE YOU
CAN HELP US OUT.
IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT YOU'RE
NEAR A COMPUTER SO THAT WE CAN
VIDEO CHAT?
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> HEY.
HERE'S WHY WE'RE CALLING.
THERE'S A GUY NAMED MIKE.
HE MET A GIRL ON PLENTY OF FISH
WHO'S USING PICTURES OF YOUR
FRIEND, CAROLINE, WHO SAYS SHE
LIVES IN PENSACOLA AND SAYS SHE
CURRENTLY IS GOING THROUGH
TREATMENT FOR CANCER.
IS ANY OF THAT TRUE IN REGARDS
TO YOUR FRIEND CAROLINE?
>> AND IN THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF, HAS SHE EVER MENTIONED A
GUY NAMED MIKE, WHO LIVES IN
FLORIDA?
>> RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. BYE, LAUREN.
THANK YOU.
>> SO IT IS OFFICIALLY, NOW, NOT
CAROLINE LEDFORD.
>> RIGHT.
MIKE'S CAROLINE IS PRETENDING TO
BE THIS GIRL.
LET'S WAIT TO GET A CALL BACK
FROM CAROLINE SO THAT WE CAN SEE
HER FACE AND RECORD A VIDEO TO
SHOW TO MIKE.
AT LEAST IT'LL BE A STEP IN THE
DIRECTION OF HIM FINDING OUT THE
TRUTH AND MOVING ON WITH HIS
LIFE.
>> GOOD MORNING, NEV.
DID YOU GET ANYTHING?
>> LET'S SEE.
>> UH-OH, YOU GOT SOMETHING!
>> I DO HAVE A MESSAGE FROM
CAROLINE.
>> THERE IT IS.
>> "HI!
YES, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK WITH
YOU."
>> both: SHE SENT FROM NORTH
CAROLINA.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO SHE'S NOT HERE.
>> OKAY. READY?
>> YEAH.
[phone line rings]
>> HELLO, CAROLINE?
>> HEY, SO WE JUST GOT YOUR
MESSAGE BACK ON FACEBOOK.
I'D LOVE TO EXPLAIN ALL THIS TO
YOU.
THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, FOR US,
WOULD BE A VIDEO CHAT .
>> OH, OKAY.
HOLD ON, HERE WE GO.
>> YES.
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> HI. IT'S ME.
>> WOW, IT'S CAROLINE.
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> AND MAX.
>> HEY, CAROLINE.
>> SO WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A GUY
NAMED MIKE...
>> OKAY.
>> A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, MIKE
WENT ON PLENTY OF FISH.
HE GOT AN EMAIL FROM A GIRL OFF
THE WEBSITE NAMED CAROLINE.
AND CAROLINE LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE
YOU.
YOU DON'T KNOW A MIKE FROM
PENSACOLA, FLORIDA, DO YOU?
>> MIKE MESSAGED YOU.
>> ME?
>> HE SENT YOU A FACEBOOK
MESSAGE.
>> YOU NEVER RESPONDED.
>> SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY
HELP MIKE OUT, I THINK, IS IF
YOU LOOKED DIRECTLY INTO THE
CAMERA AND TALKED TO HIM.
>> OKAY.
>> PERFECT.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS REALLY NICE.
>> THANK YOU, CAROLINE.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY, SEE Y'ALL. BYE.
>> BYE.
MIKE IS GONNA BE PRETTY SHOCKED
WHEN HE SEES THIS VIDEO.
>> WELL, WHOEVER'S BEHIND THIS
STOLE PICTURES FROM THE REAL
CAROLINE'S FACEBOOK PAGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> SHE'S OBVIOUSLY GOOD AT
PRETENDING.
>> AND I THINK THAT HE'S IN
DEEP.
HE'S IN OVER HIS HEAD.
HE'S CAUGHT IN THE WEB.
HE'S A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT COULD BE A
GUY, IT COULD BE A GIRL, IT
COULD BE AN OLDER WOMAN, YOUNGER
WOMAN.
IT COULD BE ANYBODY.
[phone line rings]
>> MIKE.
WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY SERIOUS
STUFF TO GO OVER.
WE WANTED TO MEET UP WITH YOU.
ALL RIGHT, DUDE.
SO WE'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE
BIT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> READY FOR SOME ANSWERS?
>> LET'S GO.
>> WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU A
VIDEO CHAT THAT WE HAD WITH
CAROLINE THIS MORNING.
>> HI.
HI, MIKE.
MY NAME IS CAROLINE.
WE HAVE NEVER SPOKEN BEFORE.
MY LAST NAME IS NOT RHODES.
I DO NOT HAVE CANCER.
AND I'VE HEARD YOU MESSAGED ME
ONE DAY ON FACEBOOK.
MAYBE WE'LL ACTUALLY GET TO
MEET.
BUT YEAH, I'M NOT CAROLINE
RHODES, AND I'M SO SORRY.
>> THAT'S IT.
>> * I'M NOT SO GOOD ANYMORE *
>> IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE KIND
OF PUT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND,
THAT SHE'S GOT TO BE WHO I
THOUGHT SHE WAS.
AND SHE'S NOT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I'VE BEEN
TALKING TO.
>> * ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU TEND *
* TO LIGHT UP FOR
>> SO NOW WE KNOW IT'S NOT THE
GIRL IN THE PICTURES.
WHO IS IT?
SO THAT'S WHAT WE SPENT MOST OF
LAST NIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE IT, BUT
ANY PICTURE YOU TAKE WITH YOUR
PHONE IS GEOTAGGED.
>> THE PICTURE OF HER SMILING IS
GEOTAGGED TO A VERY SPECIFIC
STREET.
>> YOU KNOW, SHE TOLD ME WHERE
SHE LIVED.
>> REALLY?
>> I DROVE OVER THERE.
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT SHE HAD
TOLD YOU WHERE SHE'S CURRENTLY
LIVING.
WE COULD'VE USED THAT INFO.
>> I DROVE IN HERE, AND I PARKED
RIGHT HERE.
AND I'M TALKING TO HER ON THE
PHONE.
I WENT, "HEY, YOU KNOW, I'M
STANDING RIGHT HERE.
WHY DON'T YOU COME OUTSIDE?"
AND SHE TOLD ME, "YOU MIGHT AS
WELL GO HOME, 'CAUSE I'M NOT
COMING OUT."
>> YOU'VE PROBABLY MET THIS
PERSON.
>> THEY CLEARLY KNOW WHO YOU ARE
AT THIS POINT.
>> WHO WOULD DO THAT?
THAT'S SOMEBODY I FELT LIKE I
KNEW.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT I FELT
LIKE I HAD A CONNECTION WITH.
>> ALL THAT IS REALLY LEFT TO DO
IS TO JUST CALL HER AND SORT OF
LAY IT ALL OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN
GET HER TO FINALLY MEET UP.
>> MAYBE AT THAT POINT IN TIME,
THE SUPPOSED ANXIETY WILL GO
AWAY AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS WILL
COME OUT.
>> WANT TO CHILL OUT FOR A
SECOND?
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
>> FEEL STUPID.
I TRUST EVERYBODY UNTIL THEY
GIVE ME A REASON NOT TO TRUST
THEM.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S JUST A
HUGE, HUGE LETDOWN.
YOU KNOW, NOW I DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NOT.
>> I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE
THING THAT'S BEEN HOLDING
CAROLINE BACK FOR THE LAST YEAR
AND A HALF--IT'S REALLY JUST THE
ANXIETY SURROUNDING WHAT MIKE
WILL SAY OR THINK WHEN HE FINDS
OUT SHE'S NOT THE GIRL IN THE
PICTURES.
>> WE'VE SEEN, ALSO, IN
SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN
THE SAME CITY, THAT THE PERSON
REALLY DOESN'T WANT ANYTHING TO
DO...
>> YES.
>> WITH THE OTHER PERSON, YOU
KNOW?
>> THAT'S TRUE.
THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY
THAT THEIR WHOLE RELATIONSHIP
ONLINE IS JUST A GAME.
I HAVE A FEELING THAT WHEN WE
SPEAK TO HER, WE'LL GET A SENSE
OF WHETHER OR NOT SHE FEELS THAT
WAY.
>> DO THE HONORS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
I DON'T EVEN THINK HER NAME IS
CAROLINE.
>> IT'S CLEARLY NOT CAROLINE.
[phone line ringing]
>> YES, HI.
IS THIS CAROLINE?
HI, THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN FROM
THE SHOW CATFISH.
WE'RE ACTUALLY IN PENSACOLA.
I WOULD SAY I COULD PROVE IT TO
YOU VIA A VIDEO CALL IF YOU
WANTED.
>> WE'RE HERE HELPING MIKE.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TELL
HIM YOUR NAME IF IT ISN'T
CAROLINE.
WE DID REACH OUT TO CAROLINE
LEDFORD ON A VIDEO CALL.
WE'RE 100% SURE.
AND WE SHOWED THAT VIDEO TO
MIKE.
>> OHH...
>> MIKE STILL FEELS AN INTENSE
CONNECTION AND CLOSENESS TO YOU,
AND HE STILL WANTS TO MEET YOU.
>> WHAT'S--YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN
KEEPING YOU FROM MEETING UP WITH
HIM?
IF THERE WAS ONE GUY I WOULD NOT
BE NERVOUS TO MEET, IT'S MIKE.
ARE YOU FREE THIS AFTERNOON?
WE CAN MEET YOU AT YOUR HOUSE.
OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
WE COULD MEET YOU AT A PARK.
I GUARANTEE YOU YOU'LL FEEL SO
MUCH BETTER.
>> WE'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE
BIT.
>> WELL, THIS IS GOOD NEWS TO
TELL MIKE.
>> LET'S GET GOING.
I THINK THEY PROBABLY KNOW EACH
OTHER.
>> OH, YEAH.
>> AND IF SHE TOLD US HER
NAME...
>> IT WOULD BE A DEAD GIVEAWAY.
>> RIGHT.
HERE WE ARE.
[knocks]
>> WHAT'S UP?
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER
THAN YESTERDAY.
>> WE SPOKE TO CAROLINE, AND I
TOLD HER, I SAID, "LOOK, HE
KNOWS YOU'RE NOT THAT GIRL."
SHE WAS A LITTLE, SORT OF,
SHOCKED.
>> YEAH.
>> GOOD NEWS IS, ASSUMING SHE
SHOWS UP, I THINK WE ARE GOING
TO MEET HER TODAY.
>> I'M READY.
>> YOU'RE READY TO GO.
>> YEP.
>> THEN LET'S GET GOING.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> AFTER YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> OH, BOY.
IT IS REALLY HAPPENING.
>> I'M FEELING WORRIED.
AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW,
ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE.
I HAVE A LOT EMOTIONALLY
INVESTED IN CAROLINE.
>> * EVERYTHING
* I THOUGHT I KNEW
* 'TWAS A LIE *
* TWINED AND TWISTED TRUE
>> OH, MAN. THE ANTICIPATION.
>> HOW ARE THOSE BUTTERFLIES?
>> DEFINITELY BACK.
JUST NERVOUS.
>> THERE'S THE PARK.
>> WE'VE ARRIVED.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE
IN, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> [exhales]
>> SHE MIGHT NOT SHOW UP, BRO.
YOU KNOW.
>> I MEAN, I'VE WAITED MAYBE AN
HOUR BEFORE.
RECENTLY, IT'S GOTTEN TO WHERE,
YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
WITHIN 10, 15 MINUTES, I JUST
KIND OF HAVE GONE BACK HOME.
>> WAIT, HERE COMES A CAR.
I THINK THIS IS IT, GUYS.
>> YEAH.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> NEV.
>> I'M HEATHER.
>> OKAY, HI, HEATHER.
>> HI.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> HI.
I'M SORRY.
I'M VERY--I'M VERY SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
>> WHY?
>> HOW DO I START?
YOU REMEMBER CLAIRE?
>> YEP.
>> WHEN MY FRIEND AND I MADE THE
FAKE PROFILE AND WE PRETENDED TO
BE CLAIRE TO SEE IF HER HUSBAND
WAS CHEATING ON HER, I WAS JUST
TALKING TO PEOPLE, AND YOU SENT
ME A MESSAGE.
YOU JUST STARTED TALKING TO ME.
AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL AS
CRAP.
AND SO I GAVE YOU MY NUMBER, MY
REAL NUMBER.
I SENT YOU A PICTURE, AND I WAS
LIKE, "HEY, MY NAME IS HEATHER.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY
DOING."
AND YOU WERE NOT VERY NICE.
YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE MY FRIEND.
AND SO I GOT UPSET.
SO I WENT AND MADE CAROLINE.
I ORIGINALLY DID IT JUST TO BE
MEAN BECAUSE I WAS MAD AT YOU.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT IN
COMMON.
WE LIKE THE SAME STUFF, WE DO
THE SAME THINGS, WE HAVE THE
SAME PERSONALITY.
AND I DIDN'T--I DIDN'T MEAN TO
FALL IN LOVE WITH YOU.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO START CARING
ABOUT YOU.
JUST HAPPENED.
>> BUT WHY KEEP UP THE LIE FOR
SO LONG?
>> I TRIED NOT TO.
I TRIED TO LEAVE.
THEN, AFTER ABOUT A MONTH, I
MISSED YOU.
HOW DO YOU GET RID OF SOMEBODY
WHO'S AN INTRICATE PART OF YOUR
LIFE, WHO YOU TELL ALL OF YOUR
STUFF TO?
>> WHAT DO I ACTUALLY KNOW TO BE
TRUE?
>> YEAH, I MADE A FAKE PICTURE.
IT'S NOT WHAT I LOOK LIKE.
EVERYTHING ELSE I TOLD YOU IS
ME.
>> DO YOU HAVE CANCER?
>> NO. I'M NOT SICK.
WHEN I SAID THAT I WAS SICK, I
WAS AT THE POINT WHERE I COULD
TELL THAT YOU WERE FRUSTRATED
AND YOU WERE GONNA LEAVE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
I DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE MICHAEL
IN MY LIFE.
NO MATTER HOW I CAN HAVE YOU,
OTHER THAN BEING SICK AND BEING
A TEACHER AND WHAT I LOOK LIKE
AND MY NAME, IS REAL.
>> I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK
SO LONG FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
>> 'CAUSE I WAS SCARED.
I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY
TIMES I WALKED INTO YOUR WORK
AND TURNED AROUND AND WALKED
BACK OUT.
I WILL DO WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO
TO MAKE IT UP TO YOU.
>> WE ASKED YOU THAT SAME
QUESTION.
WHY WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO PUT
YOURSELF THROUGH THIS?
>> IT WAS BEING HOPEFUL.
IT WAS BELIEVING YOU.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD LET THINGS
SETTLE TODAY.
>> YEAH.
>> I'M SORRY THAT IT CAME TO
THIS.
BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE
SHOULD SPLIT UP FOR A LITTLE
WHILE.
>> * I CAN SEE IT FROM HERE
* THE END IS COMING
*
* YOU SAID TO ME
*IT WON'T BE LONG NOW *
*
>> [sobbing]
>> LET'S GO TALK ABOUT THIS.
WHAT DID YOU LEARN?
>> THAT I'M WAY TOO TRUSTING,
AND IT'S JUST BEEN A ROLLER
COASTER SINCE DAY ONE.
>> THIS GIRL OBVIOUSLY DESERVES
SOME CREDIT FOR FINALLY COMING
CLEAN.
>> SO GIVING HER A CHANCE TO
HONESTLY COMMUNICATE WITH YOU
WILL PROBABLY BE A REALLY
HELPFUL THING FOR HER.
AND IT WILL ALSO GIVE YOU A
CHANCE TO EXPRESS HOW YOU FEEL,
BECAUSE I THINK SHE NEEDS TO
KNOW.
>> * OH, MY LOVER
*
* OH, HOW I'VE COME*
* TO DISCOVER
[phone line rings]
>> HELLO, HEATHER?
WE'RE OVER AT MIKE'S PLACE, AND
WE'RE WONDERING IF YOU WOULD
WANT TO COME OVER AND TALK ABOUT
ALL THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
>> * WHEN EVERYTHING IS LOST
* AND EVERYTHING'S THE SAME *
* YOU HAVE NO FEAR
* YOU FEEL NO PAIN
>> HEY.
>> HI.
>> COME ON.
>> HI.
>> COME ON IN.
>> HERE, HAVE A SEAT.
YESTERDAY...
>> WAS A LOT.
>> WAS A LOT, AND IT LEFT US
WITH A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
ALSO, CONCERN FOR YOU.
AND HEATHER, YOU MUST'VE KNOWN
THAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
MICHAEL WAS CAUSING HIM STRESS.
>> I MEAN, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE
DYING.
>> I KNOW.
NOT MY SMARTEST THING.
>> THE CANCER THING--IT'S A
PRETTY DEVASTATING LIE BECAUSE
IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ANYONE
TALKING TO YOU AT THAT POINT TO
LET YOU GO.
DO YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS
CANCER?
>> UH-HUH, WHICH PROBABLY MAKES
IT EVEN MORE AWFUL THAT I SAID
THAT.
MY GRANDPA DIED FROM LUNG CANCER
IN 2000.
MY AUNT DIED FROM BREAST CANCER,
AND THAT RUNS IN MY FAMILY.
>> MY DAD, WHO WAS A...
RECENTLY DIAGNOSED WITH
DIABETES.
SO IT'S BEEN A...
HUGE CHANGE WITHIN THE FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, YOU CONSTANTLY MAKE
SURE HE'S OKAY.
>> SO FOR A WHILE, YOU WERE
WORRIED ABOUT YOUR DAD BEING
SICK, AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU
WERE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A
GIRL WHO WAS DYING OF CANCER.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S WHEN I FELT THE MOST
AWFUL THAT I'D MADE THAT UP.
IT MADE ME FEEL LIKE THE LOWEST
PERSON EVER.
>> IT TAKES A CERTAIN KIND OF
SITUATION TO LEAD TO BUILDING A
FAKE PROFILE AND LYING TO
SOMEONE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
>> I WAS AFRAID THAT I WAS GONNA
LOSE SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN VERY
IMPORTANT TO ME.
I HAD TO DO WHATEVER I COULD TO
TRY TO KEEP HIM.
I DON'T LET PEOPLE IN.
HE'S THE FIRST PERSON I EVER LET
IN.
I TOLD HIM THINGS THAT I'VE
NEVER TOLD OTHER PEOPLE.
I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU DON'T
HATE ME.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY
NEVER FORGIVE ME.
AND I'M SORRY.
>> YOU DO NEED HELP.
AND YOU NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY
WHO WILL LISTEN TO YOU AND HELP
YOU, NOT JUST LISTEN TO YOU.
>> NEV AND I HAVE BOTH GONE TO
THERAPY.
AND IT'S NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED
OF.
>> I'VE FELT THE WAY YOU FEEL,
SOMEWHAT HOPELESS, DAUNTING TASK
OF WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?
SO WE CARE.
WE WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED.
>> OKAY.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> * YOU NEED NOT HAVE COME
* TO MY LAIR
* YOU DO NOT KNOW
* WHO YOU'LL FIND IN THERE *
[thunder rumbles]
>> [sobbing]
>> * SINK MY CLAWS
* INTO THE SNOW
>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH: THE
TV SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
>> IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK, BUT
ONE LAST CRAZY THING.
>> THERE IS A SILVER LINING IN
ALL THIS, MAYBE.
>> SO HAVE A SEAT.
OKAY.
CLOSE YOUR EYES.
[computer chimes]
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> I'M CAROLINE.
>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL.
>> IT'S NICE TO FINALLY MEET
YOU.
>> YEAH.
>> I FEEL LIKE I ALREADY KNOW
YOU, BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE ODD.
>> I KNOW.
I'M SURE IT'S REALLY WEIRD FOR
YOU.
IT'S WEIRD FOR ME, AND I CAN'T
IMAGINE A YEAR AND A HALF.
>> YEAH. IT'S BEEN VERY HARD.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALL GONNA
WORK OUT FOR THE BETTER.
>> WELL, I'M SURE MY VOICE IS A
LOT MORE SOUTHERN THAN HERS TOO.
>> NO, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
IT'S ATTRACTIVE.
>> THANKS.
OH, GOSH, NOW MY FACE IS TURNING
RED.
>> [laughs]
>> I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT YOU
DO.
>> I'M AN ARTIST.
>> I'M ACTUALLY REALLY ARTISTIC
TOO.
>> GET OUT OF HERE.
>> YEAH.
>> I DRAW AND PAINT.
THIS IS A DRAWING I DID OUT OF
CHARCOAL OF MAX.
>> [laughs]
>> THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF A
RESEMBLANCE HERE.
[both laugh]
I'D REALLY LIKE TO POTENTIALLY
TALK TO YOU MORE IF YOU'RE
INTERESTED.
>> DEFINITELY IM ME ON FACEBOOK.
>> I WILL FRIEND YOU ON
FACEBOOK, AND WE WILL GO FROM
THERE.
>> GOOD-NIGHT. SEE YOU.
>> BYE.
[computer chimes]
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> I'M GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?
>> WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU AND
MIKE?
>> I HAVE ONLY TALKED TO HIM
TWICE.
IT'S HARD EVERY DAY, 'CAUSE I
MISS HIM AND I WANT TO TALK TO
HIM.
BUT WHEN I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO
TALK TO HIM, I TALK TO SOMEBODY
ELSE.
I HAD A COME-TO-JESUS MEETING
WITH MYSELF AND REALIZED THAT
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
WERE GOING ON IN MY LIFE THAT
CAUSED ME TO DO WHAT I DID.
I ALSO TOOK THIS AS A MOTIVATION
TO HELP BETTER MYSELF.
SO I'VE CHANGED MY EATING HABITS
AND I ALSO STARTED A BLOG.
AND I'M WRITING EVERYTHING DOWN
THAT ONLY ME AND, LIKE, GOD
KNOW.
AND I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO
MAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC, SOON, SO
THAT EVERYBODY CAN READ IT.
BUT I HAVEN'T DECIDED WHEN
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
>> WOW.
>> I DID A LOT OF WORK IN ME.
SO...
>> WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR IT, AND
HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL KEEP GOING
WELL AND WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> THANKS, GUYS.
>> BYE, HEATHER.
>> SEE YOU.
[computer chimes]
>> OH!
>> HEY!
>> BIG MIKE.
>> BIG MIKE!
>> * OH, LIFE GOES ON
>> I'M PRETTY MUCH OVER IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE
THINGS WHERE YOU WISH HER THE
BEST, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I AS
A PERSON AM WAY MORE CAUTIOUS
THAN I'VE EVER BEEN, AS FAR AS
SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
>> WHAT ABOUT ANY PROSPECTS WITH
THE LADIES?
>> I'VE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW,
TEXTED CAROLINE A LITTLE BIT
HERE AND THERE.
>> HOW'S THAT GOING?
>> SHE'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
ATTRACTIVE.
SHE'S COOL.
SO, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> * LIFE GOES ON
>> ALL RIGHT, MIKE.
GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING.
>> LATER.
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