Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 1, Episode 7 - Joe & Kari Ann - full transcript
Joe was skeptical when former Miss Teen USA, Kari Ann Peniche, sent him a friend request. Now, after months of intense communication, Joe thinks it might be the real Kari Ann, and that he also might have found love with her.
>> THERE'S A
CAR RIGHT THERE.
IT JUST POPPED OVER THE HILL.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THIS IS A CAR.
THIS IS A CAR.
[laughs]
>> HI, I'M NEV.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I FELL IN
LOVE ONLINE.
TURNS OUT MY CRUSH WASN'T WHO I
THOUGHT SHE WAS.
I THOUGHT I FELL IN LOVE WITH
MEGAN, BUT MEGAN WAS REALLY
ANGELA.
I WAS HEARTBROKEN, BUT THE
WEIRDEST PART OF IT ALL, ANGELA
AND I ACTUALLY BECAME FRIENDS.
NOT ONLY THAT, MY BROTHER AND
HIS FILMMAKING PARTNER SHOT THE
WHOLE THING AND TURNED IT INTO A
DOCUMENTARY THAT WAS A PRETTY
BIG HIT.
SUDDENLY, MY INBOX WAS EXPLODING
WITH EMAILS.
"WHEN I SAW YOUR MOVIE, CATFISH,
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THE
SIMILARITIES."
IT FELT LIKE EVERYONE ON THE
INTERNET WANTED TO TELL ME ABOUT
THEIR BIZARRE ONLINE ROMANCE.
I SHOULD JUST PURSUE EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF THESE LEADS, AND
WE SHOULD MAKE A SHOW OF IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO.
I'M HITTING THE ROAD WITH MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX AND A CREW
FROM MTV TO HELP PEOPLE MEET
THEIR ONLINE LOVES FOR THE FIRST
TIME.
OKAY, I THINK THIS IS IT.
IT'S GO TIME RIGHT NOW.
>> GO TIME.
>> ALL RIGHT.
IS THE PERSON THEY'VE FALLEN FOR
TELLING THE TRUTH...
>> MAYBE SHE'S, LIKE, SOME SUPER
SEXY FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
>> OR HIDING BEHIND LIES?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD
SMILE OR CRY.
>> WILL THEY FIND LOVE...
>> GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
>> OR HEARTACHE?
>> DEFINITELY DID NOT SEE THIS
COMING.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY
RIGHT NOW.
>> NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WE'RE
HERE TO HELP SOLVE THE MYSTERY.
>> I CANNOT BELIEVE IT'S YOU.
>> HOPEFULLY FIND THE LIGHT AT
THE END OF THE TUNNEL, IF IT'S,
YOU KNOW, HAPPY OR NOT.
>> WHAT ARE YOU BLATHERING?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> [laughs]
>> CATFISHTHE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
STORY. CATFISH: THE TV SHOWIS YOURS.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOWIS YOURS.
>> NEV?
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S 3:40 IN THE AFTERNOON.
>> I JUST NEED ONE SECOND.
I WOULD LIKE THE PREMIUM
PACKAGE.
THANK YOU.
YOUR TELEVISION--
>> LET'S GET IT IN GEAR.
>> MARKER.
>> CATFISH.
>> ALL RIGHT, WHO YOU GOT?
>> YEAH, ARE WE GOOD?
>> ALL RIGHT, WE GOT SOME NEW
STORIES HERE.
SUBJECT IS "NEED HELP IN
NORTHERN NEW YORK," FROM
JOE SUMERISKI.
"I'VE BEEN DATING A GIRL I MET
ONLINE FOR THE PAST THREE
MONTHS.
THE THING IS, SHE IS NOT YOUR
AVERAGE, EVERYDAY GIRL.
SHE IS FAMOUS.
HER NAME IS KARI ANN PENICHE,
AND SHE WON MISS UNITED STATES
TEEN IN 2003."
>> WHOA.
>> "WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS
IF SHE IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
I AM JUST A NORMAL GUY.
I LIVE IN WESTERN NEW YORK, AND
SHE LIVES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN
CALIFORNIA.
I AM READY TO HOPEFULLY START A
LIFE WITH HER AND GET OUT OF
THIS TOWN.
PLEASE HELP FIGURE OUT
EVERYTHING, AND HOPEFULLY, IT'S
NOT TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE."
>> A COUPLE BIG RED FLAGS.
CELEBRITY...
BEAUTY PAGEANT WINNER, A
MODEL.
>> YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME
SERIOUS BALLS TO IMPERSONATE
SUCH A PUBLIC FIGURE
>> BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.
>> NO, YEAH.
BUT, LIKE, IT SEEMED LIKE
THAT WOULD BE AN EASY THING TO
UNCOVER IF IT WEREN'T TRUE.
ANYWAY, LET'S VIDEO CHAT.
HEY, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU?
IN, LIKE, A LOCAL SHOP?
>> YEAH, I'M IN A BOOKSTORE
THAT'S GOT FREE WI-FI.
>> SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO
HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ALL
THIS AND WHAT WENT DOWN.
>> THIS GIRL KARI ANN MESSAGED
ME AND WAS LIKE, "HEY, WHAT'S
UP?"
>> ♪ WAIT FOR ME HERE
♪ BABY, I MISS YOU
♪ I CAN'T FORGET YOU
>> YOU HAVE A COMPUTER AT HOME.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT IT'S--IT DOES NOT HAVE A
WEBCAM.
>> NO, I HAVE, LIKE, AN OLD-
SCHOOL COMPUTER WITH A MODEM.
>> SO THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU TO
VIDEO CHAT IS TO COME TO THE
BOOKSTORE AND GET ON THEIR
COMPUTER.
>> YEP, IT'D BE THE ONLY WAY.
SHE KNOWS I DON'T HAVE A WEBCAM
OR NOTHING, SO SHE DOESN'T EVEN,
LIKE, REALLY BOTHER WITH IT.
>> RIGHT.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP
IT AS A FRIENDSHIP.
YOU WANT MORE THAN THAT.
>> YEAH, I NEED MORE THAN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I'D RATHER MOVE OUR OF HERE AND
START A LIFE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I THINK NOW IS THE TIME WHEN I
SHOULD MEET HER.
>> AND WHAT'S STOPPING YOU RIGHT
NOW FROM DOING THAT, IF YOU
WANTED TO?
>> MONEY.
DEFINITELY MONEY.
>> IF IT'S COOL WITH YOU, YOU
KNOW, I'D LIKE TO--LIKE TO COME
WITH MY CREW--
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE MEET THE GIRL
OF YOUR DREAMS.
I'D LOVE TO BE THERE FOR THAT.
>> THAT'S AWESOME, ACTUALLY.
PEACE OUT.
[laughs]
>> ALL RIGHT.
WOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT THIS MISS
TEEN USA.
OH, SHE DID PLAYBOY.
WOW.
>> WHOA.
>> THAT'S JUST A TOTALLY NAKED
PICTURE.
>> GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER.
WE'RE GOING TO NEW YORK.
>> YEAH, I'M ROOTING FOR AVERAGE
JOE.
COME ON.
>> COME ON, GUYS.
>> ♪ OH-OH
♪ OH MY MY, OH, HEY HEY
>> HAVE A GOOD FLIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S NOT THE TIME TO EAT YOUR
FRUIT COCKTAIL.
>> ♪ BURN THE CAR
♪ AND SAVE THE PLATES
♪ SHE'S ARRIVED
♪ MY SAVING GRACE
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE WE ARE.
>> ALL RIGHT, BAGGAGE CLAIM.
YES.
ON THE ROAD TO WARSAW.
IF I WERE JOE, I WOULD BE VERY
EXCITED.
>> I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S
ANY CHANCE THAT KARI ANN IS THAT
KARI ANN.
>> HERE WE GO.
THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY.
HOW YOU DOING?
>> GOOD TO MEET YOU, MAN.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> HOW'S IT GOING?
>> PRETTY GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?
>> PRETTY GOOD. THIS IS MAX.
>> HEY, JOE.
>> HELLO, NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> RON, DAVE, THE WHOLE CREW.
>> HELLO.
>> WHO'S THIS?
>> THIS IS MARLEY.
>> MARLEY.
>> HE'S MY PUPPY.
THIS IS MY FOUR-WHEELER.
>> NICE.
HELP.
>> WANT ME TO START IT?
>> WANT ME TO START IT? [engine starts]
[engine starts]
>> ALL RIGHT, HE'S ALREADY UP
THROUGH THE TRAIL.
♪
THAT WAS GOOD.
>> [laughs] THE BRAKES DON'T
WORK.
>> NO, [bleep].
I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT.
>> [laughs]
>> IT DON'T GOT BACK BRAKES.
>> THESE ARE YOUR HORSES?
>> MY MOM'S. YEAH.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS DUKE.
WE HAVE MORE COWS AROUND HERE
THAN WE DO PEOPLE.
[laughs]
>> WHEN YOU FIRST CONTACTED ME
AND SAID YOU GET MESSAGED BY
THIS CELEBRITY...
>> MISS TEEN USA.
>> CHICK, I THOUGHT, LIKE, THIS
SOUNDS A LITTLE TOO GOOD TO BE
TRUE.
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
AT FIRST.
>> RIGHT.
HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> UM...
ME AND MY GIRLFRIEND BROKE UP.
I PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.
LONELY.
AND THEN KARI ANN MESSAGED ME,
JUST LIKE--
>> JUST TOTALLY RANDOM.
>> YEP.
I WAS LIKE, "HOW THE HELL DID
THIS GIRL FIND ME?"
>> YOU HAVE MUTUAL FRIENDS OR
SOMETHING?
THERE MUST BE SOME CONNECTION.
>> WELL, YEAH, 'CAUSE I KNOW A
GIRL WHO WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ME
WHO KNOWS HER, SO MAYBE THAT'S
HOW SHE FOUND MY PROFILE.
>> OKAY, WHO'S THAT?
>> ROSE.
>> SO YOU WENT TO SCHOOL WITH A
GIRL WHO KNOWS HER?
>> YEAH, SHE'S JUST A GIRL WHO I
GRADUATED WITH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE DOES.
SHE MODELS OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> AND SHE WAS FRIENDS WITH KARI
ANN IN REAL LIFE AND ON
FACEBOOK.
>> FROM WHAT SHE SAYS, YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS KARI
ANN'S PROFILE.
>> YEP.
>> IS THAT HER KID?
>> YEAH, PRESTON.
>> SO SHE HAS A KID.
>> YEP.
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
DID WE KNOW THAT?
>> I DON'T REMEMBER KNOWING
THAT.
YOU THINK YOU COULD HANDLE THAT?
>> YEAH, I THINK SO.
[laughs]
>> I MEAN, SHE'S DONE A LOT
OF--SHE'S DONE A LOT OF
MODELING.
>> THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE ONE.
>> OH, YEAH, LET'S SEE THAT ONE.
SO YOU POSTED ON THIS A
COUPLE OF TIMES.
"I REALLY LIKE THIS PIC FOR SOME
REASON."
YOU LOOK STUNNING.
WELL, YOU DO IN EVERY PIC."
>> YEAH, SOMETHING ABOUT THAT
PICTURE I LIKE.
MAYBE IT'S 'CAUSE SHE'S, LIKE, A
REGULAR GIRL THERE OR SOMETHING,
YOU KNOW?
SHE DOESN'T LOOK FAMOUS OR
NOTHING.
LIKE, IT'S RAN THROUGH MY HEAD
THAT MAYBE IT'S A FAKE PROFILE
AND MAYBE SOMEHOW MY
EX-GIRLFRIEND'S BEHIND IT ALL.
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THAT OCCURRED TO ME TOO.
>> THAT RAN THROUGH HEAD TOO.
YEAH.
>> LIKE, IF--YEAH, IF SHE JUST
SET SOMEBODY UP TO MESS AROUND
WITH ME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[cell phone beeping]
>> YOU HAVE ONE NEW VOICE
>> YOU HAVE ONE NEW VOICE MESSAGE.
MESSAGE.
>> THAT DOESN'T SOUND ANYTHING
LIKE YOUR EX-GIRLFRIEND, DOES
IT?
>> NO.
>> NO.
>> LIKE, WHEN I HEARD IT, I
REPLAYED IT, LIKE, FOUR OR FIVE
TIMES.
JUST LIKE YOU WERE SAYING,
TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T
ANYBODY THAT I KNEW.
>> YOU TOLD HER THAT YOU WANTED
TO MEET HER.
>> MM-HMM.
>> AND THEN YOU ASKED ME TO
HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE
PERSON YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO IS
ACTUALLY...
>> both: KARI ANN.
>> BUT YOU'RE READY TO TAKE
THAT CHANCE?
>> YEAH.
>> AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO
DO?
>> YEAH, I WANT TO FIND OUT IF
SHE'S REAL OR WHATNOT.
>> YEAH.
>> I DO.
>> THE NEXT STEP FOR US IS TO
SORT OF DIG IN.
>> YEAH, GO AHEAD, INVESTIGATE.
>> YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT?
>> YEAH, DIG UP ALL THE DIRT YOU
CAN.
>> YEAH, LET'S NOT WASTE ANY
MORE TIME.
LET'S GET TO IT.
>> WE'RE GONNA GO DO SOME
RESEARCH.
>> WOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'M
MORE NERVOUS FOR IT TO BE THE
GIRL OR NOT TO BE THE GIRL.
>> [laughs] HE'S TASTED THE
FORBIDDEN FRUIT AND HE
FORBIDDEN FRUIT AND HE WANTS MORE.
WANTS MORE.
>> KARI ANN.
VERY INTERESTING CHARACTER.
>> RIGHT.
>> IN ADDITION TO BEING FROM THE
WEST COAST, HAVING BEEN A MISS
TEEN USA, SHE...
>> HAS A KID.
>> HAS A VERY YOUNG KID.
>> I STILL DON'T THINK IT'S
GONNA END UP BEING KARI ANN.
NO WAY.
SHE'S LIKE A HOT POTATO.
>> YEAH.
>> SHE'S THE FULL PACKAGE.
SHE HAS A STORIED PAST.
>> RIGHT.
>> FASHION LINE.
>> [laughs] I'M DEFINITELY
INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT MORE
ABOUT THIS GIRL.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET STARTED.
>> KARI ANN.
>> LET'S GO TO HER PAGE FIRST.
>> YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE AND FRIENDS.
>> ARE THESE JUST DUDES WHO ARE
SWEATING HER, OR ARE THESE GUYS
THAT KNOW HER?
WAIT, THIS GUY KNOWS HER.
EMAIL THIS GUY KYLE, WILL YOU?
WE MIGHT WANT TO ASK, LIKE, IS
THIS FACEBOOK PAGE REAL?
IS THIS PERSON REAL?
LET'S GO TO ROSE.
>> ROSE IS JOE'S FRIEND.
>> RIGHT.
>> SHE SAYS SHE KNOWS KARI ANN.
>> OKAY.
>> YEAH.
>> WAIT, WHAT IS THAT?
"PLAYBOYSHOOT,
THE CENTERFOLD EVENT IN VEGAS."
WHICH ONE IS ROSE?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS HER,
THE DARK-HAIRED GIRL.
>> ALL RIGHT, AND SHE'S AT A
PLAYBOYCENTERFOLD EVENT WITH A
PLAYMATE.
OKAY, WELL, THERE'S DEFINITELY A
CONNECTION HERE.
>> THAT'S THE SMALLEST BIKINI I
HAVE EVER SEEN.
>> ON ROSE?
YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SMALL.
>> SO WE COULD CONTACT ROSE.
I THINK ROSE IS A GOOD PLACE TO
START BECAUSE JOE KNOWS ROSE.
>> RIGHT.
>> OKAY, I'M CALLING HER.
WHAT AM I ASKING HER?
>> HOW DO THEY--DOES SHE KNOW
HER PHYSICALLY?
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO, ROSE?
>> HI.
>> MY NAME IS NEV.
THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE
I'M SHOOTING A DOCUSERIES FOR
MTV, AND IT'S ABOUT ONLINE
DATING.
JOE SUMERISKI, HE'S BEEN
FRIENDLY WITH A GIRL THAT HE MET
ON THE INTERNET, KARI ANN
PENICHE.
HE SAID HE THINKS THAT YOU'RE
HE SAID HE THINKS THAT YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH HER IN REAL LIFE.
FRIENDS WITH HER IN REAL LIFE.
SO YOU NEVER ACTUALLY MET HER
IN PERSON?
BUT YOU SPOKE TO HER ON THE
PHONE, RIGHT?
BYE.
>> WHEEW. WELL--
>> IF NOTHING ELSE, THE VALIDITY
OF THIS KARI ANN PROFILE IS
SEEMINGLY MORE CONCRETE.
>> DO YOU WANT TO, LIKE, LOOK
HER UP ON IMDB PRO AND, LIKE,
SEE, LIKE, WHO'S HER AGENT?
>> ESTERMAN ENTERTAINMENT.
WHAT, ARE WE GONNA CALL THEM?
>> YEAH.
>> AND ASK THEM WHAT?
>> JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE SHOW'S
ABOUT.
>> YES, CAN I HELP YOU?
>> YEAH, HI, THIS IS NEV
SCHULMAN FOR MIKE ESTERMAN.
>> YES, THIS IS ME.
HOLD ON, I'M ON THE PHONE.
WHAT? CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YEAH, HI, I UNDERSTAND YOU
REPRESENT KARI ANN PENICHE.
WE JUST MET A YOUNG MAN WHO, FOR
THE PAST THREE MONTHS, HAS BEEN
TALKING TO WHO HE THINKS TO BE
TALKING TO WHO HE THINKS TO BE KARI ANN PENICHE.
KARI ANN PENICHE.
RIGHT.
[laughs] ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANKS
[laughs] ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANKS A LOT, MAN.
A LOT, MAN.
WOW.
>> LET'S GO BACK TO HER PAGE AND
SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE, LIKE,
HAVE MET HER IN PERSON.
THERE'S MIKE ESTERMAN.
>> THAT'S HER AGENT.
>> YEAH.
WHOA.
SO SHE IS FRIENDS WITH HIM.
A FAKE PERSON WOULD NOT--
>> WOW, SO--OH, AND LOOK, HERE'S
THIS GUY WITH LOTS OF
CELEBRITIES.
WOW, THIS GUY HAS--
>> WILLIE NELSON.
>> GETS AROUND.
>> GILBERT GOTTFRIED, MARIO
LOPEZ.
>> DEFINITELY WORKS FOR MARIO
LOPEZ.
>> "AGENT TO THE STARS,"
IT SAYS.
>> THIS IS GETTING EVEN MORE
EXCITING.
OH, WAIT A SEC.
LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK.
MESSAGE.
NEW MESSAGE FROM KYLE.
"ACTUALLY I'M ABOUT TO GO ON
BREAK IN THREE MINUTES, SO DO
YOU MIND IF I GIVE YOU A CALL?"
YOU MIND IF I GIVE YOU A CALL?" UH-OH, HERE WE GO.
UH-OH, HERE WE GO.
YES, THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN
YES, THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN TOUCH.
TOUCH.
GOOD FOR YOU.
>> [laughs]
>> IF I GAVE YOU THE NUMBER THAT
JOE USES, COULD YOU CONFIRM FOR
ME THAT IT'S THE SAME NUMBER
THAT YOU HAVE FOR HER?
RIGHT.
WOW.
>> THIS IS...
>> OKAY, MAN.
[exhales]
I MEAN...
>> [laughs]
>> UNLESS THIS GIRL HAS A DOZEN
PEOPLE WORKING FOR HER AND
CORROBORATING ON THIS LIE, THIS
IS HER.
>> IT'S HER.
[laughs] IT CHECKS OUT.
>> OH, MY GOD.
I'M SWEATING.
IT'S EXCITING.
>> WE'VE GOT CORROBORATION FROM
KYLE.
THE FACEBOOK PAGE SEEMS LEGIT.
HE'S HAVING AN ONLINE
RELATIONSHIP...
WITH A 28-YEAR-OLD FORMER
MISS TEEN USA, PLAYBOYBUNNY.
>> PLAYBOYBUNNY.
>> YEAH.
>> MOM.
>> FUNNY.
IT'S JUST TOO WEIRD TO BE TRUE.
>> WELL, IT'S LATE.
>> WE CLOSED THIS PLACE DOWN.
LET'S SLEEP ON IT, AND TALK
TO JOE IN THE MORNING.
TO JOE IN THE MORNING. >> YEAH, I'M DONE.
>> YEAH, I'M DONE.
>> WE ARE GOING TO MEET UP WITH
JOE.
I THINK HE SAID HE MIGHT BRING
A FRIEND OR TWO.
AND WHEN WE GET A MOMENT, WE'RE
GONNA TELL HIM ALL ABOUT WHAT WE
FOUND IN OUR RESEARCHING
YESTERDAY.
>> [laughs] I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE
HIS FACE WHEN WE GIVE HIM THE
UNBELIEVABLE NEWS THAT THIS
COULD BE HIS DREAM GIRL.
>> HERE WE ARE.
>> both: THIS IS IT.
>> MINNEHANS.
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS LOOKS FUN.
HELLO.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> I'M ROSE.
>> OH, HEY, ROSE, NICE TO MEET
YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> WE SPOKE YESTERDAY.
>> YES, WE DID. NEV?
>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> STANDING HERE WATCHING JOE
PLAY BASEBALL.
>> HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN IN THE
CAGE YET, IN THE--
>> NO.
>> WHOA.
WHOA.
>> I USED TO PLAY SOFTBALL.
>> all: WHOA.
>> OH, GOD.
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> MONSTER JOE.
>> THAT WAS GOOD THOUGH.
YOU HIT MORE THAN I DID.
>> IS HARLEY YOUR BEST FRIEND?
>> YEAH, HE'S ONE OF MY BEST
FRIENDS.
>> YEAH, SO YOU GUYS GREW UP
HERE TOGETHER?
>> WELL, I'M--
>> WELL--
>> I GREW IN LONG ISLAND, THEN
MOVED UP HERE, AND THEN I MOVED
TO FLORIDA, THEN I CAME BACK.
NOW I'M HERE.
>> WOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN
FRIENDS FOR A LONG TIME.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS
WHOLE THING?
>> THAT HE IS--I DON'T KNOW--ARE
YOU SEEING HER OR--
>> TALKING TO HER.
>> TALKING TO KARI ANN, I GUESS
YOU COULD SAY.
>> PARTLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU
WERE FRIENDS WITH HER.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHY SHE
FOUND HIM ON FACEBOOK.
>> ON FACEBOOK.
>> HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO KARI ANN
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS?
>> A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'VE ONLY
TALKED ABOUT BUSINESS PRETTY
MUCH.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU, HARLEY?
YOU WERE THERE AT THE VERY
BEGINNING...
>> YEAH.
>> WHEN HE FIRST GOT THAT
MESSAGE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
YOU SAW THE PICTURES OF HER.
>> YEAH, I WAS LIKE, "DAMN,
DUDE, SHE'S [bleep] HOT."
>> [laughs]
>> JUST LIKE, "HOLY [bleep],
BRO."
>> [laughs]
>> SO YESTERDAY, WE CONTACTED
SOME PEOPLE, JUST FRIENDS OF
HERS THAT WE FOUND WHO HAD
POSTED ON HER WALL.
ONE OF HER FRIENDS IS A REAL
AGENT THAT WE SPOKE TO WHOSE
NUMBER WAS LISTED ON A
PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE.
>> RIGHT.
>> SO--
>> WE THOUGHT FOR SURE...
>> RIGHT.
>> THIS WAS BS.
>> WELL, WE WERE SUSPICIOUS LIKE
YOU.
>> I THOUGHT FOR SURE THIS WAS
BS.
>> HE THOUGHT FOR SURE.
>> I'VE BEEN PULLING FOR YOU THE
WHOLE TIME, JOE.
>> [laughs]
>> BUT THE MORE WE INVESTIGATE,
THE MORE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, FOR
ALL WE CAN TELL, THIS WOMAN
SEEMS TO BE WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
>> I MEAN, I THINK BECAUSE YOU
TALKED TO HER AGENT ON THE
PHONE...
>> YEAH.
YEAH, THAT--YEAH, THAT TOO.
>> THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME, YOU
KNOW, HELLO.
[laughs]
>> STILL KIND OF FEELS TOO GOOD
TO BE TRUE, SO I WANT TO MEET
HER.
IT'S AWESOME, THOUGH, IF I'M
REALLY TALKING TO THE REAL KARI
ANN.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SITTING
IN FRONT OF HER, SO UNTIL YOU
ARE, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO
KNOW FOR SURE.
>> YEAH.
>> COOL.
LET'S ROCK.
I'LL WHOOP YOUR ASS ON THE
TRACK.
[all laughing]
I'LL MEET YOU GUYS IN THERE.
MAX, GO--YOU CAN START.
I WANT TO JUST TALK TO ROSE FOR
TWO SECONDS.
ALL RIGHT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S BEST FOR HIM.
>> RIGHT.
>> AND I'M CURIOUS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK...
>> WHAT DO I THINK?
>> KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW, WHICH
IS MORE THAN ME?
IN SOME WAYS, YOUR LIFE AND
KARI ANN'S LIFE OVERLAP.
>> I BELIEVE THAT IT'S HER.
>> OKAY.
>> I THINK THAT MAYBE HE HAS A
SHOT WITH HER.
>> YEAH, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'D
BE A STRETCH TO THINK THAT SHE
SET UP ALL THAT AND HER
CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND HER
MANAGER.
>> EXACTLY. THAT WOULDN'T--
THAT WOULDN'T ADD UP.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT HE SHOULD
MEET HER FACE TO FACE, AND THEN
FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.
>> ALL RIGHT, ON YOUR MARKS.
>> NO BUMPING.
>> GET SET.
GO.
>> ♪ AS IF THE WALK
♪ DOWN THE BLOCK
♪ WAS ON A TIGHTROPE
♪ STOP TO WATCH
♪ THE CONCRETE DECOMPOSE
♪ I'VE BEEN SEARCHING
♪ TO FIND OUT WHERE
♪ THE GRASS GROWS
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S YOU, MAN.
THAT'S ALL YOU.
>> I'D FEEL REALLY BAD IF IT
TURNED OUT NOT TO BE HER.
>> RIGHT.
>> IF WE WERE WRONG.
>> IF HE WAS EVER HOPEFUL THAT
THIS COULD WORK OUT...
>> RIGHT.
>> HE'S CERTAINLY MORE NOW.
>> RIGHT.
I MEAN, I HOPE WE'RE RIGHT, FOR
I MEAN, I HOPE WE'RE RIGHT, FOR HIS SAKE.
HIS SAKE.
>> DO YOU HAVE HER PHONE NUMBER?
>> YEP.
>> THIS IS KARI ANN'S PHONE
NUMBER THAT WAS CONFIRMED BY
JOE, ROSE, AND KYLE.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU ROLLING? YOU READY?
>> I'M ROLLING.
[phone line ringing]
>> HEY, HELLO, IS THIS KARI ANN?
THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN.
I AM--
THIS IS NEV.
I'M A FRIEND OF JOE.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING A
DOCUMENTARY ABOUT JOE AND HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.
HE TOLD US ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH
HE LIKES YOU AND HOW HE JUST
REALLY WANTS TO MEET YOU, AND I
WANTED TO SEE HOW YOU FELT ABOUT
HIM, AND IF YOU SHARE THOSE
HIM, AND IF YOU SHARE THOSE FEELINGS.
FEELINGS.
SURE.
I MEAN, I'M HERE FOR JOE AND HE
ASKED FOR MY HELP.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF HIM
THAT THINKS THAT MAYBE YOU MIGHT
NOT BE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHO HE
THINKS YOU ARE.
>> 'CAUSE IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE
TRUE.
TRUE. >> BECAUSE HE'S SO INTO YOU.
>> BECAUSE HE'S SO INTO YOU.
>> BECAUSE HE'S SO INTO YOU. >> WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY--
>> WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY--
IT IS WEIRD, AND I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW,
ARRANGING FOR YOU GUYS TO MEET
IS SOMETHING THAT YOU BOTH WANT,
AND BASICALLY, WHEN CAN WE--WHEN
CAN WE ARRANGE FOR YOU GUYS TO
CAN WE ARRANGE FOR YOU GUYS TO MEET UP?
MEET UP?
MEET UP? OH, NO WAY.
OH, NO WAY.
OKAY.
IF YOU WANT TO MEET THIS GUY,
OBVIOUSLY, COMING FROM THE CITY
IS PRETTY EASY.
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU, WE
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU, WE COULD TOTALLY MEET YOU.
COULD TOTALLY MEET YOU.
OKAY.
YEAH, I MEAN, ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR
ARRANGEMENTS, WHATEVER'S
CONVENIENT FOR YOU, JUST LET ME
KNOW.
NO, YOU--YOU'RE COMPLETELY
JUSTIFIED.
IT REMINDS ME THAT WHAT I'M
DOING IS WEIRD.
BYE.
[exhales]
OH, MY GOD, I'M SO HOT.
>> JESUS.
WOW.
>> [exhales]
>> YOU--YOU'VE ALMOST [bleep]
THE ENTIRE RELATIONSHIP.
>> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
>> WELL, YOU KEPT ON TALKING
YOUR WAY AROUND IT.
ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS, LIKE, A
FEW SIMPLE THINGS.
IF YOU'D JUST LISTENED TO ME.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GET GOING
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY
TIME.
WE GOT TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH
JOE, AND WE GOT TO SEE IF HE
EVEN THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR
HER TO MEET HIM HERE.
HER TO MEET HIM HERE. AND THERE'S A LOT TO GO OVER.
AND THERE'S A LOT TO GO OVER.
HEY THERE.
>> HOW ARE WE DOING TODAY?
>> ALL RIGHT, HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M GOOD.
>> WHAT HAS JOE TOLD YOU ABOUT
KARI ANN?
>> HE'S DYING TO MEET HER.
>> WE WERE SKEPTICAL AT FIRST.
WE JUST DIDN'T THINK SHE WAS
REAL.
>> YEAH, WE'RE COUNTRY FOLK.
WE STICK TO OUR OWN.
>> IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS,
WE'D, YOU KNOW--WE'D LIKE TO
SORT OF FINISH THE JOB AND BRING
THEM TOGETHER.
>> IT'S MORE THAN OKAY.
>> RIGHT.
>> LIKE I SAID, IF HE CAN FIND
SOMEONE COMPATIBLE LIKE THAT,
AND IF SHE'S IT, THEN WE'RE
HAPPY.
I REALLY HOPE SHE IS.
I JUST--I HATE TO SEE HIM GET,
YOU KNOW, HEARTBROKE AGAIN.
>> JOE, WHAT'S UP, MAN?
SINCE WE SAW YOU YESTERDAY,
I SPOKE TO KARI ANN.
AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION,
I SAID, "WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU
AND JOE MEET UP.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?"
AND SHE SAID YEAH.
>> WELL, THAT'S GOOD.
>> WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
SHE TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT WAS A
LITTLE SURPRISING, WHICH IS THAT
RIGHT NOW, SHE'S IN NEW YORK
CITY.
>> IN NEW YORK CITY?
>> YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE
TOLD YOU THAT.
>> NO.
>> NO.
I ASKED HER, "WELL, DO YOU WANT
TO MEET IN NEW YORK CITY?" AND
SHE SAID SHE ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT
MIGHT BE BEST FOR HER JUST TO
COME HERE.
>> COME UP HERE?
>> COME--YEAH.
>> [laughs]
>> YEAH, WELL, SO THAT WAS--THAT
CAME AS A SURPRISE TO US TOO.
>> THAT'S AWESOME, THOUGH.
>> YEAH, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, IT'S CRAZY.
>> IT WAS A LITTLE STRANGE THAT
SHE WAS IN NEW YORK AND DIDN'T
MENTION ANYTHING TO YOU.
>> YEAH, THAT CAUGHT US A LITTLE
OFF GUARD.
>> MAYBE SHE WANTS TO SEE HOW I
LIVE OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> YEAH, ARE YOU COOL WITH THAT?
ARE YOU--
>> YEAH, I'M COOL WITH THAT.
>> THE SCARY AND EXCITING THING
IS THAT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH.
>> I MEAN, WE STILL JUST--YOU
DON'T KNOW, BUT WHATEVER
HAPPENS, WE'RE HERE, AND IF
YOU'RE REAL AND IF YOU'RE
HONEST--
>> THERE'S NO REASON SHE
SHOULDN'T LIKE ME.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> OH, WAIT, THIS IS
INTERESTING.
KARI ANN'S MOM POSTED ON HER
WALL.
ALL CAPS, EXCLAMATION POINTS.
TODAY IS FRIDAY.
>> SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY UP.
I CAN SMELL IT.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'LL MEET YOU
DOWNSTAIRS.
>> HEY, KARI ANN, IT'S NEV AND
MAX.
WE ARE HEADING TO JOE'S HOUSE.
SO WHEN YOU LAND, GIVE ME A CALL
OR GIVE JOE A CALL.
OR GIVE JOE A CALL. [knocks]
[knocks]
YO.
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
SHE TEXTED ME AND TOLD ME
THAT SHE LANDED.
>> OH, YEAH? WHEN?
>> SHE DID?
>> IT WAS, LIKE, 12:15.
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST, LIKE, CAN'T WAIT FOR
HER TO GET HERE.
THEN I'M NERVOUS FOR WHEN SHE
GETS HERE, BUT I'M EXCITED FOR
WHEN SHE GETS HERE.
AND...I DON'T KNOW.
AND...I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST CRAZY.
IT'S JUST CRAZY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MM-HMM.
>> HEY, KARI ANN, IT'S NEV AND
MAX AND JOE.
>> HELLO.
>> HEY, WE'RE JUST HERE AT JOE'S
HOUSE.
WE WERE CURIOUS WHEN YOU THOUGHT
WE WERE CURIOUS WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU'D BE GETTING HERE.
YOU'D BE GETTING HERE.
>> [laughs]
>> GPS SAYS 20 MINUTES?
OKAY, COOL.
WE'LL WAIT FOR YOU IN THE
DRIVEWAY SO YOU CAN SEE US, AND
WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> YEAH, WE'LL SEE--I'LL SEE YOU
WHEN YOU GET HERE.
>> both: OKAY.
>> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> [laughs]
>> YOU'RE SHAKING A LITTLE.
>> A LITTLE BIT.
>> A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> OH, MAN.
WHAT DO--WHICH WAY IS SHE GONNA
COME FROM?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA, ACTUALLY.
COULD PROBABLY COME FROM EITHER
WAY.
MY GUESS IS THAT WAY, BUT IF
WE'RE LOOKING THAT WAY, SHE'S
PROBABLY GONNA COME THAT WAY.
THERE'S A CAR RIGHT THERE.
>> WHERE?
>> IT JUST POPPED OVER THE HILL.
>> OH, MAN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
THIS IS IT.
THE FINAL COUNTDOWN.
>> LITTLE NERVOUS.
>> LITTLE NERVOUS. YEAH.
YEAH.
YEAH. >> YEAH...THIS IS A CAR.
>> YEAH...THIS IS A CAR.
>> SHE'S LOOKING.
[laughs]
>> HEY.
>> HELLO.
>> [laughs]
>> ROSE.
>> SO IT'S BEEN ROSE THE WHOLE
TIME?
>> ROSE?
>> YES.
>> IT'S BEEN YOU THE WHOLE TIME?
>> YES.
[laughs]
I'M SORRY, BUT--
>> [laughs]
>> ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
I'M REALLY SORRY.
>> UM...
HMM.
>> WHAT DO YOU--WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> WHY WOULDN'T YOU TELL ME IT
WAS YOU?
>> I WAS SCARED.
>> SCARED?
>> SCARED TO TELL YOU.
I DO HAVE FEELINGS FOR YOU, AND
I WAS JUST SCARED OF WHAT YOU
WOULD SAY TO ME.
>> MM-HMM.
>> SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD
FEELINGS FOR JOE?
>> FEW MONTHS?
>> WHEN YOU STARTED FALLING IN
LOVE WITH ME OR WHATEVER, THEN
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME IT WAS
YOU?
>> BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO,
LIKE, STOP TALKING TO ME
ALL TOGETHER.
ANOTHER PART OF ME--I JUST LIKED
DOING IT BECAUSE, FOR ME, IT'S
KIND OF, LIKE, ENTERTAINMENT.
>> I MEAN, YOU--WE OWE YOU AN
APOLOGY.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T--I--
>> WE TOTALLY--WE FAILED.
WE FAILED YOU, MAN.
>> YEAH, WE DEFINITELY DID NOT
SEE THIS COMING, AND I FEEL
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY, WE
D-DIDN'T PREPARE YOU FOR THIS.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THIS FAKE
PROFILE?
>> WHICH ONE?
>> WELL, HOW MANY PROFILES DO
YOU HAVE?
>> [laughs] HOW MANY ARE THERE?
>> A FEW--QUITE A FEW.
>> FOR KARI ANN, OR FOR LOTS OF
PEOPLE?
>> FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
I'VE PRETTY MUCH MASTERED IT.
>> IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BOTHER YOU
THAT MUCH.
>> IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT
MUCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYONE'S
MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT.
>> IT'S AN UNUSUAL WAY TO START
RELATIONSHIPS.
>> YEAH.
>> NEV IS BEING VERY NICE.
IT'S INCREDIBLY SELFISH AND
YOU'RE BEING REALLY
IRRESPONSIBLE.
YOU'RE MANIPULATING PEOPLE'S
EMOTIONS.
YOU'RE LEADING THEM ON AND
YOU'RE LYING TO THEM.
IT'S--
>> WELL, THAT'S FINE.
>> IT'S A MESSED UP WAY OF
ENTERTAINING YOURSELF.
YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE [bleep]
WITH THEIR EMOTIONS AND THEIR
LIVES.
JOE THOUGHT HE WAS ABOUT TO
START A WHOLE NEW LIFE.
GOT HIM GOING.
>> I KNOW AND I SAID THAT I AM
EXTREMELY SORRY FOR THAT.
I'M APOLOGIZING.
>> RIGHT.
>> I'M APOLOGIZING IN FRONT OF
ALL THESE FREAKING CAMERAS.
LIKE, WHAT THE [bleep]?
I WOULDN'T COME BACK HERE FOR
JUST, LIKE, NOTHING.
>> SO YOU CAME BACK FOR JOE?
>> YEAH, I GUESS IN A WAY I DID.
>> HOW CAN I BELIEVE ANYTHING
YOU SAY?
YOU JUST [bleep] WITH
PEOPLE IN THEIR HEADS AND MAKE
'EM THINK THEY'RE WITH SOMEBODY
ELSE AND WHATNOT, SO...
I'M JUST--
[clears throat]
I DON'T KNOW, IT HURTS.
IT SUCKS.
IT REALLY DOES.
PRETTY MUCH, LIKE, EVERYTHING
THAT I HAVE TOLD YOU IS REAL.
EVERYTHING IS 100% TRUE.
EVERYTHING IS 100% TRUE. I HAVEN'T LIED ABOUT NOTHING.
I HAVEN'T LIED ABOUT NOTHING.
I THINK I'LL NEED A LITTLE BIT
OF TIME TO THINK THINGS THROUGH,
AND SEE WHAT'S REAL NOW AND SEE
WHAT'S FAKE, I GUESS.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
BYE.
>> BYE, ROSE.
>> BYE, ROSE. >> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> PRETTY MESSED UP.
>> MM-HMM.
>> MM-HMM. COLD-HEARTED.
COLD-HEARTED.
>> I REALLY CAN'T STOP.
I FEEL ADDICTED.
>> YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A
REAL RELATIONSHIP OR YOUR
PROFILES.
PROFILES. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
[knock on door]
>> YEAH.
>> HOLD ON. HOLD ON.
>> WHO IS IT?
>> TELEVISION SHOW.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> HEY, GOOD MORNING.
[laughs]
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> JUST CHECKING UP ON KARI
ANN'S PROFILE, WHICH IS
APPARENTLY STILL UP.
APPARENTLY STILL UP. HEY, DID I WAKE YOU UP?
HEY, DID I WAKE YOU UP?
WE WERE CALLING TO CHECK IN,
WE WERE CALLING TO CHECK IN, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SURE.
SURE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
HEY.
IS ANYONE HOME?
>> NO, JUST ME. THAT'S IT.
>> NO, JUST ME. THAT'S IT. >> JUST US.
>> JUST US.
>> I JUST WANTED A CHANCE TO
KIND OF MAYBE EXPLAIN MYSELF A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
>> SURE.
>> SO AT FIRST, I'D STARTED
DEVELOPING FEELINGS FOR JOE, SO
I JUST DECIDED I'M JUST GONNA
START TALKING TO HIM, SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
>> YOU DID, OR KARI ANN DID?
>> WELL, KARI ANN, WHATEVER.
[laughs]
>> SO YOU HAVE A PROFILE ALSO.
>> WELL, YEAH.
>> FOR YOU.
>> YEAH.
AS KARI ANN, I ADDED HIM, AND
THE MORE WE WERE TEXTING AND
TALKING ON THE PHONE, HE MADE ME
FEEL, LIKE, SPECIAL.
HE WAS REALLY SWEET AND JUST,
LIKE, REALLY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT
EVERYTHING I TOLD HIM.
I'M SURE HE'S HURT RIGHT NOW AND
UPSET WITH ME, PISSED AT ME.
IT JUST GO MAYBE A LITTLE OUT OF
HAND.
>> YESTERDAY, YOU DID SAY THAT
YOU WANTED TO SHOW THAT YOU MEAN
WHAT YOU SAY.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
SOMEONE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT OR
YOUR PROFILES, WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> I JUST DON'T THINK I'M READY
TO GIVE IT UP.
>> I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME TO
REASSESS, OR AT LEAST JUST TRY
TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT YOU GET FROM
IT.
EVERY MORNING WHEN YOU LOG ON,
HOW DO YOU FEEL?
>> JUST LIKE I'M LOGGING ON TO
MY OWN PAGE, CHECKING IT.
WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, LIKE,
THROUGH THE FAKE PROFILES, I GET
DIFFERENT FEELINGS THAN IF I
WOULD JUST TALK TO THEM AS ME.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU--THE ONLY
WAY YOU CAN REALLY BE HAPPY IS
TO USE THESE PROFILES.
>> YEAH.
I GUESS IT HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE
CRAZY SINCE, YOU KNOW, I DO DRAG
CRAZY SINCE, YOU KNOW, I DO DRAG PEOPLE INTO IT.
PEOPLE INTO IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
ME.
OVER THE YEARS OF DOING THIS, I
THINK IT REALLY HAS AFFECTED ME.
I'VE GOTTEN OTHER PEOPLE
INVOLVED IN IT.
MY OTHER FRIENDS.
I REALLY CAN'T STOP.
I FEEL ADDICTED, BUT THERE--
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A REHAB
FOR FAKE FACEBOOK PROFILES.
>> WELL, THERE'S THIS.
>> [laughs]
>> LET'S BRING UP THE PROFILE
AND GO THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS ON
HERE.
YOU HAVE 723 FRIENDS.
I MEAN--
>> YEAH.
>> HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR STORIES
STRAIGHT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I SAY
TO PEOPLE, AND I REMEMBER WHAT I
TELL THEM.
>> WHO IS THIS GUY, JEFF?
>> JUST SOME GUY.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW HIM IN REAL
LIFE.
>> NO.
>> WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHAT DOES
THAT SAY?
>> [laughs]
>> YOU--
>> I KNOW I--
>> YOU ASKED HIM IF HE WANTED TO
GET ENGAGED.
>> WELL, FACEBOOK ENGAGED.
>> OH, WELL, AND THIS GUY CALLS
YOU ON THE PHONE, AND DO OTHER
GUYS CALL YOU ON THE PHONE?
>> MM-HMM.
[laughs]
I KNOW IT'S NOT FUNNY.
>> AS SOMEONE WHO'S ADMITTEDLY
ADDICTED TO THIS, WHAT YOU'RE
DOING...
>> MM-HMM.
>> IS THAT THE PERSON THAT YOU
WANT TO BE?
IS THAT--ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THIS
LIFE THAT YOU'RE LIVING?
>> I WOULDN'T LIKE TO CONTINUE
>> I WOULDN'T LIKE TO CONTINUE IT FOREVER.
IT FOREVER.
I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T GET RID OF IT.
>> WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S TOO MUCH STUFF ON HERE
TO GET RID OF.
>> YOU REALLY PUT A LOT AND TIME
AND EFFORT INTO CREATING THIS
WORLD.
I MEAN, IF YOU PUT THAT SAME
INTENSITY AND TIME AND ENERGY
INTO CREATING A WORLD IN WHICH
PEOPLE WEREN'T NECESSARILY
GETTING HURT OR BEING...
>> YEAH.
>> MANIPULATED, LIKE, YOU COULD
BE MAYBE, LIKE, THE NEXT AMAZING
AMERICAN WRITER.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE
READY RIGHT NOW TO POST THAT
READY RIGHT NOW TO POST THAT FIRST STATUS, OR--?
FIRST STATUS, OR--?
>> OKAY.
>> READ IT OUT LOUD HERE.
>> "HEY, EVERYONE, I WOULD JUST
LIKE YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT I AM
GOING TO BE GOING AWAY FOR A
WHILE.
I NEED SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT
THINGS AND TO CLEAR MY HEAD.
PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME IN ANY
WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
XOXO."
XOXO." I'M POSTING IT.
I'M POSTING IT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
BLANK SLATE.
BLANK SLATE. >> [clears throat]
>> [clears throat]
>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH: THE TV
SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
>> IT'S KIND OF WEIRD.
>> I KNOW, ISN'T IT?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW.
SO WHAT'S UP?
>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
YESTERDAY.
>> ALL RIGHT, YOU--YOU LEAD.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU?
DO YOU THINK SO?
>> YEAH, BUT YOU LEAD.
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE
AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING.
>> FOR MESSING AROUND WITH ME?
>> I GUESS I JUST HAVE A LOT OF
ISSUES I HAVE TO DEAL WITH, AND
I DID TODAY.
I POSTED A STATUS SAYING THAT
I'M GOING TO BE GOING AWAY FOR A
WHILE.
>> YOU POSTED THAT AS YOURSELF
OR AS...
>> ON HER--
>> KARI ANN?
>> ON KARI ANN'S STATUS.
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
STEP.
>> THROUGHOUT THE TIME THAT WE
WERE TALKING, I FOUND OUT THAT
YOU WERE A PRETTY COOL GUY.
>> MAN, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.
THAT MAKES ME SMILE.
>> I DEVELOPED FEELINGS FOR YOU,
LIKE--
>> AS A PERSON?
>> YEAH, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
>> MM-HMM.
I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BE
FRIENDS FOR RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL
SEE IF WE GO SOMEWHERE LATER.
>> I'M SORRY, JOE.
>> IT'S ALL RIGHT.
>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU ACCEPT MY
APOLOGY.
>> OH, YEAH.
WELL, NOT ANY TIME.
I WAS GONNA SAY "ANY TIME," BUT
NOT ANY TIME.
>> [laughs]
>> "YOU'RE LUCKY," I SHOULD SAY.
>> [laughs]
>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS?
>> WE'RE GOOD.
>> I LEARNED A LOT THIS WEEK.
>> WHAT IS THIS, LIKE, SESAME
STREET?
>> [laughs]
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT COMING INTO
THIS.
I HAVEN'T BEEN FOOLED LIKE THIS
IN A WHILE.
>> I'M SORRY THAT I FOOLED YOU.
>> NO, THAT'S OKAY.
>> MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A
BETTER DETECTIVE.
>> I HAVE WORK TO DO.
>> [laughs]
>> YOU'RE FIRED, DUDE.
GET OUT.
[laughs]
I GOT SHOTGUN.
>> BYE, GUYS.
>> BE GOOD.
>> I'LL BE GOOD.
YOU BE GOOD TOO.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> OKAY.
[laughs]
>> ALL RIGHT, END OF THE LINE.
>> HOME, SWEET HOME.
>> BUT IT WAS A CRAZY
EXPERIENCE, AND I DO THANK YOU
GUYS A MILLION FOR IT, YOU KNOW?
'CAUSE IF YOU GUYS DIDN'T CAME,
I DON'T--LIKE I TOLD YOU
YESTERDAY, I DON'T THINK SHE
EVER WOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT IT
WASN'T HER.
>> YEAH, I DON'T THINK SO
EITHER.
>> I'M STILL FRIENDS WITH HER
AFTER IT ALL, SO THAT SHOULD BE
ALL THAT MATTERS RIGHT THERE.
ACTUALLY, BEFORE YOU GUYS LEAVE,
I WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS DO
SOMETHING FOR ME, IF YOU GUYS
COULD.
IF, LIKE, YOU GUYS COULD DRIVE
DOWN THE ROAD AND RIGHT NEXT TO
ME ON MY FOUR WHEELER AND TELL
ME HOW FAST IT GOES.
>> DEFINITELY.
>> I WANT TO SEE HOW FAST IT
GOES.
>> DEFINITELY.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A SPEEDOMETER?
>> NO, UH-UH.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
>> ♪ IF I LOVE YOU
♪ WHOO-HOO OOH OOH OOH
♪ OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OHH OOH
♪ SO HOW DO I KNOW?
♪ HOW DO I KNOW?
♪ HOW DO I KNOW?
♪ WHOO-HOO OOH OOH OOH
>> WHAT'D IT GET?
>> 55, DUDE.
>> DAMN.
ALL RIGHTY, MAN.
I APPRECIATE THAT TOO.
>> NO PROBLEM.
>> THAT WAS FUN.
>> MY PLEASURE.
>> STAY CLEAN.
>> ♪ HOW DO I KNOW?
>> HEY, ROSE.
>> HEY.
>> HOW IS EVERYTHING?
>> GOOD.
>> ♪ HOW DO I KNOW
♪ IF I KNOW YOU?
♪ HOW DO I KNOW IF I LOVE YOU?
♪ WHEN YOU'VE DRAWN
♪ THAT IMAGINARY LINE
>> DO YOU HAVE A ROMANTIC
INTEREST OR--
>> I HAVE A BOYFRIEND.
>> SO HOW DID YOU MEET?
>> WE MET THROUGH THE FAKE
PROFILE.
>> REALLY?
>> ♪ HOW DO I KNOW
♪ IF I LOVE YOU?
♪
>> HEY, JOE.
>> WHAT'S UP, BUDDY?
>> WORD ON THE STREET IS THAT
YOU'RE A HARD MAN TO FIND.
>> PROBABLY TRUE.
>> [laughs]
>> ♪ YOU'VE DRAWN
♪ THAT IMAGINARY LINE
>> SO YOU'VE MOVED ON?
>> OH, YEAH.
LAST I SAW HER WAS WHEN YOU
GUYS PICKED ME UP AND TOOK ME TO
HER HOUSE.
>> THINK YOU'LL EVER PURSUE AN
ONLINE RELATIONSHIP AGAIN?
ONLINE RELATIONSHIP AGAIN? >> NOPE.
>> NOPE.
>> IF I MEET AMANDA, AND SHE IS
WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS, SHE WOULD
BE A SUPER GIRL TO HAVE IN MY
LIFE.
>> THIS GIRL IS LEAVING A WAKE
OF GUYS.
>> MAKES ME WONDER LIKE, "WHO
HAVE I BEEN TALKING TO?"
MAYBE SHE'S, LIKE, SOME SUPER
SEXY FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THIS.
IS SOMEONE OVER THERE?
IS SOMEONE OVER THERE? >> UH-OH.
CAR RIGHT THERE.
IT JUST POPPED OVER THE HILL.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THIS IS A CAR.
THIS IS A CAR.
[laughs]
>> HI, I'M NEV.
A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I FELL IN
LOVE ONLINE.
TURNS OUT MY CRUSH WASN'T WHO I
THOUGHT SHE WAS.
I THOUGHT I FELL IN LOVE WITH
MEGAN, BUT MEGAN WAS REALLY
ANGELA.
I WAS HEARTBROKEN, BUT THE
WEIRDEST PART OF IT ALL, ANGELA
AND I ACTUALLY BECAME FRIENDS.
NOT ONLY THAT, MY BROTHER AND
HIS FILMMAKING PARTNER SHOT THE
WHOLE THING AND TURNED IT INTO A
DOCUMENTARY THAT WAS A PRETTY
BIG HIT.
SUDDENLY, MY INBOX WAS EXPLODING
WITH EMAILS.
"WHEN I SAW YOUR MOVIE, CATFISH,
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THE
SIMILARITIES."
IT FELT LIKE EVERYONE ON THE
INTERNET WANTED TO TELL ME ABOUT
THEIR BIZARRE ONLINE ROMANCE.
I SHOULD JUST PURSUE EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF THESE LEADS, AND
WE SHOULD MAKE A SHOW OF IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO.
I'M HITTING THE ROAD WITH MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX AND A CREW
FROM MTV TO HELP PEOPLE MEET
THEIR ONLINE LOVES FOR THE FIRST
TIME.
OKAY, I THINK THIS IS IT.
IT'S GO TIME RIGHT NOW.
>> GO TIME.
>> ALL RIGHT.
IS THE PERSON THEY'VE FALLEN FOR
TELLING THE TRUTH...
>> MAYBE SHE'S, LIKE, SOME SUPER
SEXY FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
>> OR HIDING BEHIND LIES?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD
SMILE OR CRY.
>> WILL THEY FIND LOVE...
>> GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
>> OR HEARTACHE?
>> DEFINITELY DID NOT SEE THIS
COMING.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY
RIGHT NOW.
>> NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WE'RE
HERE TO HELP SOLVE THE MYSTERY.
>> I CANNOT BELIEVE IT'S YOU.
>> HOPEFULLY FIND THE LIGHT AT
THE END OF THE TUNNEL, IF IT'S,
YOU KNOW, HAPPY OR NOT.
>> WHAT ARE YOU BLATHERING?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> [laughs]
>> CATFISHTHE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
STORY. CATFISH: THE TV SHOWIS YOURS.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOWIS YOURS.
>> NEV?
>> YEAH.
>> IT'S 3:40 IN THE AFTERNOON.
>> I JUST NEED ONE SECOND.
I WOULD LIKE THE PREMIUM
PACKAGE.
THANK YOU.
YOUR TELEVISION--
>> LET'S GET IT IN GEAR.
>> MARKER.
>> CATFISH.
>> ALL RIGHT, WHO YOU GOT?
>> YEAH, ARE WE GOOD?
>> ALL RIGHT, WE GOT SOME NEW
STORIES HERE.
SUBJECT IS "NEED HELP IN
NORTHERN NEW YORK," FROM
JOE SUMERISKI.
"I'VE BEEN DATING A GIRL I MET
ONLINE FOR THE PAST THREE
MONTHS.
THE THING IS, SHE IS NOT YOUR
AVERAGE, EVERYDAY GIRL.
SHE IS FAMOUS.
HER NAME IS KARI ANN PENICHE,
AND SHE WON MISS UNITED STATES
TEEN IN 2003."
>> WHOA.
>> "WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS
IF SHE IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
I AM JUST A NORMAL GUY.
I LIVE IN WESTERN NEW YORK, AND
SHE LIVES ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN
CALIFORNIA.
I AM READY TO HOPEFULLY START A
LIFE WITH HER AND GET OUT OF
THIS TOWN.
PLEASE HELP FIGURE OUT
EVERYTHING, AND HOPEFULLY, IT'S
NOT TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE."
>> A COUPLE BIG RED FLAGS.
CELEBRITY...
BEAUTY PAGEANT WINNER, A
MODEL.
>> YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME
SERIOUS BALLS TO IMPERSONATE
SUCH A PUBLIC FIGURE
>> BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.
>> NO, YEAH.
BUT, LIKE, IT SEEMED LIKE
THAT WOULD BE AN EASY THING TO
UNCOVER IF IT WEREN'T TRUE.
ANYWAY, LET'S VIDEO CHAT.
HEY, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU?
IN, LIKE, A LOCAL SHOP?
>> YEAH, I'M IN A BOOKSTORE
THAT'S GOT FREE WI-FI.
>> SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO
HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ALL
THIS AND WHAT WENT DOWN.
>> THIS GIRL KARI ANN MESSAGED
ME AND WAS LIKE, "HEY, WHAT'S
UP?"
>> ♪ WAIT FOR ME HERE
♪ BABY, I MISS YOU
♪ I CAN'T FORGET YOU
>> YOU HAVE A COMPUTER AT HOME.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT IT'S--IT DOES NOT HAVE A
WEBCAM.
>> NO, I HAVE, LIKE, AN OLD-
SCHOOL COMPUTER WITH A MODEM.
>> SO THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU TO
VIDEO CHAT IS TO COME TO THE
BOOKSTORE AND GET ON THEIR
COMPUTER.
>> YEP, IT'D BE THE ONLY WAY.
SHE KNOWS I DON'T HAVE A WEBCAM
OR NOTHING, SO SHE DOESN'T EVEN,
LIKE, REALLY BOTHER WITH IT.
>> RIGHT.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP
IT AS A FRIENDSHIP.
YOU WANT MORE THAN THAT.
>> YEAH, I NEED MORE THAN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I'D RATHER MOVE OUR OF HERE AND
START A LIFE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I THINK NOW IS THE TIME WHEN I
SHOULD MEET HER.
>> AND WHAT'S STOPPING YOU RIGHT
NOW FROM DOING THAT, IF YOU
WANTED TO?
>> MONEY.
DEFINITELY MONEY.
>> IF IT'S COOL WITH YOU, YOU
KNOW, I'D LIKE TO--LIKE TO COME
WITH MY CREW--
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE MEET THE GIRL
OF YOUR DREAMS.
I'D LOVE TO BE THERE FOR THAT.
>> THAT'S AWESOME, ACTUALLY.
PEACE OUT.
[laughs]
>> ALL RIGHT.
WOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT THIS MISS
TEEN USA.
OH, SHE DID PLAYBOY.
WOW.
>> WHOA.
>> THAT'S JUST A TOTALLY NAKED
PICTURE.
>> GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER.
WE'RE GOING TO NEW YORK.
>> YEAH, I'M ROOTING FOR AVERAGE
JOE.
COME ON.
>> COME ON, GUYS.
>> ♪ OH-OH
♪ OH MY MY, OH, HEY HEY
>> HAVE A GOOD FLIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
IT'S NOT THE TIME TO EAT YOUR
FRUIT COCKTAIL.
>> ♪ BURN THE CAR
♪ AND SAVE THE PLATES
♪ SHE'S ARRIVED
♪ MY SAVING GRACE
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE WE ARE.
>> ALL RIGHT, BAGGAGE CLAIM.
YES.
ON THE ROAD TO WARSAW.
IF I WERE JOE, I WOULD BE VERY
EXCITED.
>> I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S
ANY CHANCE THAT KARI ANN IS THAT
KARI ANN.
>> HERE WE GO.
THIS IS THE DRIVEWAY.
HOW YOU DOING?
>> GOOD TO MEET YOU, MAN.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> HOW'S IT GOING?
>> PRETTY GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?
>> PRETTY GOOD. THIS IS MAX.
>> HEY, JOE.
>> HELLO, NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> RON, DAVE, THE WHOLE CREW.
>> HELLO.
>> WHO'S THIS?
>> THIS IS MARLEY.
>> MARLEY.
>> HE'S MY PUPPY.
THIS IS MY FOUR-WHEELER.
>> NICE.
HELP.
>> WANT ME TO START IT?
>> WANT ME TO START IT? [engine starts]
[engine starts]
>> ALL RIGHT, HE'S ALREADY UP
THROUGH THE TRAIL.
♪
THAT WAS GOOD.
>> [laughs] THE BRAKES DON'T
WORK.
>> NO, [bleep].
I FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT.
>> [laughs]
>> IT DON'T GOT BACK BRAKES.
>> THESE ARE YOUR HORSES?
>> MY MOM'S. YEAH.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS DUKE.
WE HAVE MORE COWS AROUND HERE
THAN WE DO PEOPLE.
[laughs]
>> WHEN YOU FIRST CONTACTED ME
AND SAID YOU GET MESSAGED BY
THIS CELEBRITY...
>> MISS TEEN USA.
>> CHICK, I THOUGHT, LIKE, THIS
SOUNDS A LITTLE TOO GOOD TO BE
TRUE.
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
AT FIRST.
>> RIGHT.
HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN?
>> UM...
ME AND MY GIRLFRIEND BROKE UP.
I PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.
LONELY.
AND THEN KARI ANN MESSAGED ME,
JUST LIKE--
>> JUST TOTALLY RANDOM.
>> YEP.
I WAS LIKE, "HOW THE HELL DID
THIS GIRL FIND ME?"
>> YOU HAVE MUTUAL FRIENDS OR
SOMETHING?
THERE MUST BE SOME CONNECTION.
>> WELL, YEAH, 'CAUSE I KNOW A
GIRL WHO WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ME
WHO KNOWS HER, SO MAYBE THAT'S
HOW SHE FOUND MY PROFILE.
>> OKAY, WHO'S THAT?
>> ROSE.
>> SO YOU WENT TO SCHOOL WITH A
GIRL WHO KNOWS HER?
>> YEAH, SHE'S JUST A GIRL WHO I
GRADUATED WITH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE DOES.
SHE MODELS OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> AND SHE WAS FRIENDS WITH KARI
ANN IN REAL LIFE AND ON
FACEBOOK.
>> FROM WHAT SHE SAYS, YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS KARI
ANN'S PROFILE.
>> YEP.
>> IS THAT HER KID?
>> YEAH, PRESTON.
>> SO SHE HAS A KID.
>> YEP.
>> WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
DID WE KNOW THAT?
>> I DON'T REMEMBER KNOWING
THAT.
YOU THINK YOU COULD HANDLE THAT?
>> YEAH, I THINK SO.
[laughs]
>> I MEAN, SHE'S DONE A LOT
OF--SHE'S DONE A LOT OF
MODELING.
>> THAT'S YOUR FAVORITE ONE.
>> OH, YEAH, LET'S SEE THAT ONE.
SO YOU POSTED ON THIS A
COUPLE OF TIMES.
"I REALLY LIKE THIS PIC FOR SOME
REASON."
YOU LOOK STUNNING.
WELL, YOU DO IN EVERY PIC."
>> YEAH, SOMETHING ABOUT THAT
PICTURE I LIKE.
MAYBE IT'S 'CAUSE SHE'S, LIKE, A
REGULAR GIRL THERE OR SOMETHING,
YOU KNOW?
SHE DOESN'T LOOK FAMOUS OR
NOTHING.
LIKE, IT'S RAN THROUGH MY HEAD
THAT MAYBE IT'S A FAKE PROFILE
AND MAYBE SOMEHOW MY
EX-GIRLFRIEND'S BEHIND IT ALL.
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THAT OCCURRED TO ME TOO.
>> THAT RAN THROUGH HEAD TOO.
YEAH.
>> LIKE, IF--YEAH, IF SHE JUST
SET SOMEBODY UP TO MESS AROUND
WITH ME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[cell phone beeping]
>> YOU HAVE ONE NEW VOICE
>> YOU HAVE ONE NEW VOICE MESSAGE.
MESSAGE.
>> THAT DOESN'T SOUND ANYTHING
LIKE YOUR EX-GIRLFRIEND, DOES
IT?
>> NO.
>> NO.
>> LIKE, WHEN I HEARD IT, I
REPLAYED IT, LIKE, FOUR OR FIVE
TIMES.
JUST LIKE YOU WERE SAYING,
TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T
ANYBODY THAT I KNEW.
>> YOU TOLD HER THAT YOU WANTED
TO MEET HER.
>> MM-HMM.
>> AND THEN YOU ASKED ME TO
HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE
PERSON YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO IS
ACTUALLY...
>> both: KARI ANN.
>> BUT YOU'RE READY TO TAKE
THAT CHANCE?
>> YEAH.
>> AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO
DO?
>> YEAH, I WANT TO FIND OUT IF
SHE'S REAL OR WHATNOT.
>> YEAH.
>> I DO.
>> THE NEXT STEP FOR US IS TO
SORT OF DIG IN.
>> YEAH, GO AHEAD, INVESTIGATE.
>> YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT?
>> YEAH, DIG UP ALL THE DIRT YOU
CAN.
>> YEAH, LET'S NOT WASTE ANY
MORE TIME.
LET'S GET TO IT.
>> WE'RE GONNA GO DO SOME
RESEARCH.
>> WOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'M
MORE NERVOUS FOR IT TO BE THE
GIRL OR NOT TO BE THE GIRL.
>> [laughs] HE'S TASTED THE
FORBIDDEN FRUIT AND HE
FORBIDDEN FRUIT AND HE WANTS MORE.
WANTS MORE.
>> KARI ANN.
VERY INTERESTING CHARACTER.
>> RIGHT.
>> IN ADDITION TO BEING FROM THE
WEST COAST, HAVING BEEN A MISS
TEEN USA, SHE...
>> HAS A KID.
>> HAS A VERY YOUNG KID.
>> I STILL DON'T THINK IT'S
GONNA END UP BEING KARI ANN.
NO WAY.
SHE'S LIKE A HOT POTATO.
>> YEAH.
>> SHE'S THE FULL PACKAGE.
SHE HAS A STORIED PAST.
>> RIGHT.
>> FASHION LINE.
>> [laughs] I'M DEFINITELY
INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT MORE
ABOUT THIS GIRL.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET STARTED.
>> KARI ANN.
>> LET'S GO TO HER PAGE FIRST.
>> YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE AND FRIENDS.
>> ARE THESE JUST DUDES WHO ARE
SWEATING HER, OR ARE THESE GUYS
THAT KNOW HER?
WAIT, THIS GUY KNOWS HER.
EMAIL THIS GUY KYLE, WILL YOU?
WE MIGHT WANT TO ASK, LIKE, IS
THIS FACEBOOK PAGE REAL?
IS THIS PERSON REAL?
LET'S GO TO ROSE.
>> ROSE IS JOE'S FRIEND.
>> RIGHT.
>> SHE SAYS SHE KNOWS KARI ANN.
>> OKAY.
>> YEAH.
>> WAIT, WHAT IS THAT?
"PLAYBOYSHOOT,
THE CENTERFOLD EVENT IN VEGAS."
WHICH ONE IS ROSE?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS HER,
THE DARK-HAIRED GIRL.
>> ALL RIGHT, AND SHE'S AT A
PLAYBOYCENTERFOLD EVENT WITH A
PLAYMATE.
OKAY, WELL, THERE'S DEFINITELY A
CONNECTION HERE.
>> THAT'S THE SMALLEST BIKINI I
HAVE EVER SEEN.
>> ON ROSE?
YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SMALL.
>> SO WE COULD CONTACT ROSE.
I THINK ROSE IS A GOOD PLACE TO
START BECAUSE JOE KNOWS ROSE.
>> RIGHT.
>> OKAY, I'M CALLING HER.
WHAT AM I ASKING HER?
>> HOW DO THEY--DOES SHE KNOW
HER PHYSICALLY?
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO, ROSE?
>> HI.
>> MY NAME IS NEV.
THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE
I'M SHOOTING A DOCUSERIES FOR
MTV, AND IT'S ABOUT ONLINE
DATING.
JOE SUMERISKI, HE'S BEEN
FRIENDLY WITH A GIRL THAT HE MET
ON THE INTERNET, KARI ANN
PENICHE.
HE SAID HE THINKS THAT YOU'RE
HE SAID HE THINKS THAT YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH HER IN REAL LIFE.
FRIENDS WITH HER IN REAL LIFE.
SO YOU NEVER ACTUALLY MET HER
IN PERSON?
BUT YOU SPOKE TO HER ON THE
PHONE, RIGHT?
BYE.
>> WHEEW. WELL--
>> IF NOTHING ELSE, THE VALIDITY
OF THIS KARI ANN PROFILE IS
SEEMINGLY MORE CONCRETE.
>> DO YOU WANT TO, LIKE, LOOK
HER UP ON IMDB PRO AND, LIKE,
SEE, LIKE, WHO'S HER AGENT?
>> ESTERMAN ENTERTAINMENT.
WHAT, ARE WE GONNA CALL THEM?
>> YEAH.
>> AND ASK THEM WHAT?
>> JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE SHOW'S
ABOUT.
>> YES, CAN I HELP YOU?
>> YEAH, HI, THIS IS NEV
SCHULMAN FOR MIKE ESTERMAN.
>> YES, THIS IS ME.
HOLD ON, I'M ON THE PHONE.
WHAT? CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> YEAH, HI, I UNDERSTAND YOU
REPRESENT KARI ANN PENICHE.
WE JUST MET A YOUNG MAN WHO, FOR
THE PAST THREE MONTHS, HAS BEEN
TALKING TO WHO HE THINKS TO BE
TALKING TO WHO HE THINKS TO BE KARI ANN PENICHE.
KARI ANN PENICHE.
RIGHT.
[laughs] ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANKS
[laughs] ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANKS A LOT, MAN.
A LOT, MAN.
WOW.
>> LET'S GO BACK TO HER PAGE AND
SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE, LIKE,
HAVE MET HER IN PERSON.
THERE'S MIKE ESTERMAN.
>> THAT'S HER AGENT.
>> YEAH.
WHOA.
SO SHE IS FRIENDS WITH HIM.
A FAKE PERSON WOULD NOT--
>> WOW, SO--OH, AND LOOK, HERE'S
THIS GUY WITH LOTS OF
CELEBRITIES.
WOW, THIS GUY HAS--
>> WILLIE NELSON.
>> GETS AROUND.
>> GILBERT GOTTFRIED, MARIO
LOPEZ.
>> DEFINITELY WORKS FOR MARIO
LOPEZ.
>> "AGENT TO THE STARS,"
IT SAYS.
>> THIS IS GETTING EVEN MORE
EXCITING.
OH, WAIT A SEC.
LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK.
MESSAGE.
NEW MESSAGE FROM KYLE.
"ACTUALLY I'M ABOUT TO GO ON
BREAK IN THREE MINUTES, SO DO
YOU MIND IF I GIVE YOU A CALL?"
YOU MIND IF I GIVE YOU A CALL?" UH-OH, HERE WE GO.
UH-OH, HERE WE GO.
YES, THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN
YES, THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN TOUCH.
TOUCH.
GOOD FOR YOU.
>> [laughs]
>> IF I GAVE YOU THE NUMBER THAT
JOE USES, COULD YOU CONFIRM FOR
ME THAT IT'S THE SAME NUMBER
THAT YOU HAVE FOR HER?
RIGHT.
WOW.
>> THIS IS...
>> OKAY, MAN.
[exhales]
I MEAN...
>> [laughs]
>> UNLESS THIS GIRL HAS A DOZEN
PEOPLE WORKING FOR HER AND
CORROBORATING ON THIS LIE, THIS
IS HER.
>> IT'S HER.
[laughs] IT CHECKS OUT.
>> OH, MY GOD.
I'M SWEATING.
IT'S EXCITING.
>> WE'VE GOT CORROBORATION FROM
KYLE.
THE FACEBOOK PAGE SEEMS LEGIT.
HE'S HAVING AN ONLINE
RELATIONSHIP...
WITH A 28-YEAR-OLD FORMER
MISS TEEN USA, PLAYBOYBUNNY.
>> PLAYBOYBUNNY.
>> YEAH.
>> MOM.
>> FUNNY.
IT'S JUST TOO WEIRD TO BE TRUE.
>> WELL, IT'S LATE.
>> WE CLOSED THIS PLACE DOWN.
LET'S SLEEP ON IT, AND TALK
TO JOE IN THE MORNING.
TO JOE IN THE MORNING. >> YEAH, I'M DONE.
>> YEAH, I'M DONE.
>> WE ARE GOING TO MEET UP WITH
JOE.
I THINK HE SAID HE MIGHT BRING
A FRIEND OR TWO.
AND WHEN WE GET A MOMENT, WE'RE
GONNA TELL HIM ALL ABOUT WHAT WE
FOUND IN OUR RESEARCHING
YESTERDAY.
>> [laughs] I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE
HIS FACE WHEN WE GIVE HIM THE
UNBELIEVABLE NEWS THAT THIS
COULD BE HIS DREAM GIRL.
>> HERE WE ARE.
>> both: THIS IS IT.
>> MINNEHANS.
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS LOOKS FUN.
HELLO.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> I'M ROSE.
>> OH, HEY, ROSE, NICE TO MEET
YOU.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> WE SPOKE YESTERDAY.
>> YES, WE DID. NEV?
>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> STANDING HERE WATCHING JOE
PLAY BASEBALL.
>> HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN IN THE
CAGE YET, IN THE--
>> NO.
>> WHOA.
WHOA.
>> I USED TO PLAY SOFTBALL.
>> all: WHOA.
>> OH, GOD.
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> MONSTER JOE.
>> THAT WAS GOOD THOUGH.
YOU HIT MORE THAN I DID.
>> IS HARLEY YOUR BEST FRIEND?
>> YEAH, HE'S ONE OF MY BEST
FRIENDS.
>> YEAH, SO YOU GUYS GREW UP
HERE TOGETHER?
>> WELL, I'M--
>> WELL--
>> I GREW IN LONG ISLAND, THEN
MOVED UP HERE, AND THEN I MOVED
TO FLORIDA, THEN I CAME BACK.
NOW I'M HERE.
>> WOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN
FRIENDS FOR A LONG TIME.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS
WHOLE THING?
>> THAT HE IS--I DON'T KNOW--ARE
YOU SEEING HER OR--
>> TALKING TO HER.
>> TALKING TO KARI ANN, I GUESS
YOU COULD SAY.
>> PARTLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU
WERE FRIENDS WITH HER.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHY SHE
FOUND HIM ON FACEBOOK.
>> ON FACEBOOK.
>> HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO KARI ANN
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS?
>> A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'VE ONLY
TALKED ABOUT BUSINESS PRETTY
MUCH.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU, HARLEY?
YOU WERE THERE AT THE VERY
BEGINNING...
>> YEAH.
>> WHEN HE FIRST GOT THAT
MESSAGE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
YOU SAW THE PICTURES OF HER.
>> YEAH, I WAS LIKE, "DAMN,
DUDE, SHE'S [bleep] HOT."
>> [laughs]
>> JUST LIKE, "HOLY [bleep],
BRO."
>> [laughs]
>> SO YESTERDAY, WE CONTACTED
SOME PEOPLE, JUST FRIENDS OF
HERS THAT WE FOUND WHO HAD
POSTED ON HER WALL.
ONE OF HER FRIENDS IS A REAL
AGENT THAT WE SPOKE TO WHOSE
NUMBER WAS LISTED ON A
PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE.
>> RIGHT.
>> SO--
>> WE THOUGHT FOR SURE...
>> RIGHT.
>> THIS WAS BS.
>> WELL, WE WERE SUSPICIOUS LIKE
YOU.
>> I THOUGHT FOR SURE THIS WAS
BS.
>> HE THOUGHT FOR SURE.
>> I'VE BEEN PULLING FOR YOU THE
WHOLE TIME, JOE.
>> [laughs]
>> BUT THE MORE WE INVESTIGATE,
THE MORE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, FOR
ALL WE CAN TELL, THIS WOMAN
SEEMS TO BE WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
>> I MEAN, I THINK BECAUSE YOU
TALKED TO HER AGENT ON THE
PHONE...
>> YEAH.
YEAH, THAT--YEAH, THAT TOO.
>> THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME, YOU
KNOW, HELLO.
[laughs]
>> STILL KIND OF FEELS TOO GOOD
TO BE TRUE, SO I WANT TO MEET
HER.
IT'S AWESOME, THOUGH, IF I'M
REALLY TALKING TO THE REAL KARI
ANN.
>> YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SITTING
IN FRONT OF HER, SO UNTIL YOU
ARE, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO
KNOW FOR SURE.
>> YEAH.
>> COOL.
LET'S ROCK.
I'LL WHOOP YOUR ASS ON THE
TRACK.
[all laughing]
I'LL MEET YOU GUYS IN THERE.
MAX, GO--YOU CAN START.
I WANT TO JUST TALK TO ROSE FOR
TWO SECONDS.
ALL RIGHT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S BEST FOR HIM.
>> RIGHT.
>> AND I'M CURIOUS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK...
>> WHAT DO I THINK?
>> KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW, WHICH
IS MORE THAN ME?
IN SOME WAYS, YOUR LIFE AND
KARI ANN'S LIFE OVERLAP.
>> I BELIEVE THAT IT'S HER.
>> OKAY.
>> I THINK THAT MAYBE HE HAS A
SHOT WITH HER.
>> YEAH, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'D
BE A STRETCH TO THINK THAT SHE
SET UP ALL THAT AND HER
CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND HER
MANAGER.
>> EXACTLY. THAT WOULDN'T--
THAT WOULDN'T ADD UP.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT HE SHOULD
MEET HER FACE TO FACE, AND THEN
FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.
>> ALL RIGHT, ON YOUR MARKS.
>> NO BUMPING.
>> GET SET.
GO.
>> ♪ AS IF THE WALK
♪ DOWN THE BLOCK
♪ WAS ON A TIGHTROPE
♪ STOP TO WATCH
♪ THE CONCRETE DECOMPOSE
♪ I'VE BEEN SEARCHING
♪ TO FIND OUT WHERE
♪ THE GRASS GROWS
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S YOU, MAN.
THAT'S ALL YOU.
>> I'D FEEL REALLY BAD IF IT
TURNED OUT NOT TO BE HER.
>> RIGHT.
>> IF WE WERE WRONG.
>> IF HE WAS EVER HOPEFUL THAT
THIS COULD WORK OUT...
>> RIGHT.
>> HE'S CERTAINLY MORE NOW.
>> RIGHT.
I MEAN, I HOPE WE'RE RIGHT, FOR
I MEAN, I HOPE WE'RE RIGHT, FOR HIS SAKE.
HIS SAKE.
>> DO YOU HAVE HER PHONE NUMBER?
>> YEP.
>> THIS IS KARI ANN'S PHONE
NUMBER THAT WAS CONFIRMED BY
JOE, ROSE, AND KYLE.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU ROLLING? YOU READY?
>> I'M ROLLING.
[phone line ringing]
>> HEY, HELLO, IS THIS KARI ANN?
THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN.
I AM--
THIS IS NEV.
I'M A FRIEND OF JOE.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING A
DOCUMENTARY ABOUT JOE AND HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.
HE TOLD US ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH
HE LIKES YOU AND HOW HE JUST
REALLY WANTS TO MEET YOU, AND I
WANTED TO SEE HOW YOU FELT ABOUT
HIM, AND IF YOU SHARE THOSE
HIM, AND IF YOU SHARE THOSE FEELINGS.
FEELINGS.
SURE.
I MEAN, I'M HERE FOR JOE AND HE
ASKED FOR MY HELP.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF HIM
THAT THINKS THAT MAYBE YOU MIGHT
NOT BE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHO HE
THINKS YOU ARE.
>> 'CAUSE IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE
TRUE.
TRUE. >> BECAUSE HE'S SO INTO YOU.
>> BECAUSE HE'S SO INTO YOU.
>> BECAUSE HE'S SO INTO YOU. >> WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY--
>> WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY--
IT IS WEIRD, AND I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW,
ARRANGING FOR YOU GUYS TO MEET
IS SOMETHING THAT YOU BOTH WANT,
AND BASICALLY, WHEN CAN WE--WHEN
CAN WE ARRANGE FOR YOU GUYS TO
CAN WE ARRANGE FOR YOU GUYS TO MEET UP?
MEET UP?
MEET UP? OH, NO WAY.
OH, NO WAY.
OKAY.
IF YOU WANT TO MEET THIS GUY,
OBVIOUSLY, COMING FROM THE CITY
IS PRETTY EASY.
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU, WE
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU, WE COULD TOTALLY MEET YOU.
COULD TOTALLY MEET YOU.
OKAY.
YEAH, I MEAN, ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR
ARRANGEMENTS, WHATEVER'S
CONVENIENT FOR YOU, JUST LET ME
KNOW.
NO, YOU--YOU'RE COMPLETELY
JUSTIFIED.
IT REMINDS ME THAT WHAT I'M
DOING IS WEIRD.
BYE.
[exhales]
OH, MY GOD, I'M SO HOT.
>> JESUS.
WOW.
>> [exhales]
>> YOU--YOU'VE ALMOST [bleep]
THE ENTIRE RELATIONSHIP.
>> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
>> WELL, YOU KEPT ON TALKING
YOUR WAY AROUND IT.
ALL YOU HAD TO SAY WAS, LIKE, A
FEW SIMPLE THINGS.
IF YOU'D JUST LISTENED TO ME.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GET GOING
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY
TIME.
WE GOT TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH
JOE, AND WE GOT TO SEE IF HE
EVEN THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR
HER TO MEET HIM HERE.
HER TO MEET HIM HERE. AND THERE'S A LOT TO GO OVER.
AND THERE'S A LOT TO GO OVER.
HEY THERE.
>> HOW ARE WE DOING TODAY?
>> ALL RIGHT, HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M GOOD.
>> WHAT HAS JOE TOLD YOU ABOUT
KARI ANN?
>> HE'S DYING TO MEET HER.
>> WE WERE SKEPTICAL AT FIRST.
WE JUST DIDN'T THINK SHE WAS
REAL.
>> YEAH, WE'RE COUNTRY FOLK.
WE STICK TO OUR OWN.
>> IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS,
WE'D, YOU KNOW--WE'D LIKE TO
SORT OF FINISH THE JOB AND BRING
THEM TOGETHER.
>> IT'S MORE THAN OKAY.
>> RIGHT.
>> LIKE I SAID, IF HE CAN FIND
SOMEONE COMPATIBLE LIKE THAT,
AND IF SHE'S IT, THEN WE'RE
HAPPY.
I REALLY HOPE SHE IS.
I JUST--I HATE TO SEE HIM GET,
YOU KNOW, HEARTBROKE AGAIN.
>> JOE, WHAT'S UP, MAN?
SINCE WE SAW YOU YESTERDAY,
I SPOKE TO KARI ANN.
AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION,
I SAID, "WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU
AND JOE MEET UP.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?"
AND SHE SAID YEAH.
>> WELL, THAT'S GOOD.
>> WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
SHE TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT WAS A
LITTLE SURPRISING, WHICH IS THAT
RIGHT NOW, SHE'S IN NEW YORK
CITY.
>> IN NEW YORK CITY?
>> YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE
TOLD YOU THAT.
>> NO.
>> NO.
I ASKED HER, "WELL, DO YOU WANT
TO MEET IN NEW YORK CITY?" AND
SHE SAID SHE ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT
MIGHT BE BEST FOR HER JUST TO
COME HERE.
>> COME UP HERE?
>> COME--YEAH.
>> [laughs]
>> YEAH, WELL, SO THAT WAS--THAT
CAME AS A SURPRISE TO US TOO.
>> THAT'S AWESOME, THOUGH.
>> YEAH, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, IT'S CRAZY.
>> IT WAS A LITTLE STRANGE THAT
SHE WAS IN NEW YORK AND DIDN'T
MENTION ANYTHING TO YOU.
>> YEAH, THAT CAUGHT US A LITTLE
OFF GUARD.
>> MAYBE SHE WANTS TO SEE HOW I
LIVE OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> YEAH, ARE YOU COOL WITH THAT?
ARE YOU--
>> YEAH, I'M COOL WITH THAT.
>> THE SCARY AND EXCITING THING
IS THAT ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH.
>> I MEAN, WE STILL JUST--YOU
DON'T KNOW, BUT WHATEVER
HAPPENS, WE'RE HERE, AND IF
YOU'RE REAL AND IF YOU'RE
HONEST--
>> THERE'S NO REASON SHE
SHOULDN'T LIKE ME.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> OH, WAIT, THIS IS
INTERESTING.
KARI ANN'S MOM POSTED ON HER
WALL.
ALL CAPS, EXCLAMATION POINTS.
TODAY IS FRIDAY.
>> SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY UP.
I CAN SMELL IT.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'LL MEET YOU
DOWNSTAIRS.
>> HEY, KARI ANN, IT'S NEV AND
MAX.
WE ARE HEADING TO JOE'S HOUSE.
SO WHEN YOU LAND, GIVE ME A CALL
OR GIVE JOE A CALL.
OR GIVE JOE A CALL. [knocks]
[knocks]
YO.
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
SHE TEXTED ME AND TOLD ME
THAT SHE LANDED.
>> OH, YEAH? WHEN?
>> SHE DID?
>> IT WAS, LIKE, 12:15.
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S JUST, LIKE, CAN'T WAIT FOR
HER TO GET HERE.
THEN I'M NERVOUS FOR WHEN SHE
GETS HERE, BUT I'M EXCITED FOR
WHEN SHE GETS HERE.
AND...I DON'T KNOW.
AND...I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST CRAZY.
IT'S JUST CRAZY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> MM-HMM.
>> HEY, KARI ANN, IT'S NEV AND
MAX AND JOE.
>> HELLO.
>> HEY, WE'RE JUST HERE AT JOE'S
HOUSE.
WE WERE CURIOUS WHEN YOU THOUGHT
WE WERE CURIOUS WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU'D BE GETTING HERE.
YOU'D BE GETTING HERE.
>> [laughs]
>> GPS SAYS 20 MINUTES?
OKAY, COOL.
WE'LL WAIT FOR YOU IN THE
DRIVEWAY SO YOU CAN SEE US, AND
WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> YEAH, WE'LL SEE--I'LL SEE YOU
WHEN YOU GET HERE.
>> both: OKAY.
>> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> [laughs]
>> YOU'RE SHAKING A LITTLE.
>> A LITTLE BIT.
>> A LITTLE BIT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> OH, MAN.
WHAT DO--WHICH WAY IS SHE GONNA
COME FROM?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA, ACTUALLY.
COULD PROBABLY COME FROM EITHER
WAY.
MY GUESS IS THAT WAY, BUT IF
WE'RE LOOKING THAT WAY, SHE'S
PROBABLY GONNA COME THAT WAY.
THERE'S A CAR RIGHT THERE.
>> WHERE?
>> IT JUST POPPED OVER THE HILL.
>> OH, MAN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
THIS IS IT.
THE FINAL COUNTDOWN.
>> LITTLE NERVOUS.
>> LITTLE NERVOUS. YEAH.
YEAH.
YEAH. >> YEAH...THIS IS A CAR.
>> YEAH...THIS IS A CAR.
>> SHE'S LOOKING.
[laughs]
>> HEY.
>> HELLO.
>> [laughs]
>> ROSE.
>> SO IT'S BEEN ROSE THE WHOLE
TIME?
>> ROSE?
>> YES.
>> IT'S BEEN YOU THE WHOLE TIME?
>> YES.
[laughs]
I'M SORRY, BUT--
>> [laughs]
>> ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
I'M REALLY SORRY.
>> UM...
HMM.
>> WHAT DO YOU--WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> WHY WOULDN'T YOU TELL ME IT
WAS YOU?
>> I WAS SCARED.
>> SCARED?
>> SCARED TO TELL YOU.
I DO HAVE FEELINGS FOR YOU, AND
I WAS JUST SCARED OF WHAT YOU
WOULD SAY TO ME.
>> MM-HMM.
>> SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD
FEELINGS FOR JOE?
>> FEW MONTHS?
>> WHEN YOU STARTED FALLING IN
LOVE WITH ME OR WHATEVER, THEN
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME IT WAS
YOU?
>> BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO,
LIKE, STOP TALKING TO ME
ALL TOGETHER.
ANOTHER PART OF ME--I JUST LIKED
DOING IT BECAUSE, FOR ME, IT'S
KIND OF, LIKE, ENTERTAINMENT.
>> I MEAN, YOU--WE OWE YOU AN
APOLOGY.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T--I--
>> WE TOTALLY--WE FAILED.
WE FAILED YOU, MAN.
>> YEAH, WE DEFINITELY DID NOT
SEE THIS COMING, AND I FEEL
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY, WE
D-DIDN'T PREPARE YOU FOR THIS.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THIS FAKE
PROFILE?
>> WHICH ONE?
>> WELL, HOW MANY PROFILES DO
YOU HAVE?
>> [laughs] HOW MANY ARE THERE?
>> A FEW--QUITE A FEW.
>> FOR KARI ANN, OR FOR LOTS OF
PEOPLE?
>> FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
I'VE PRETTY MUCH MASTERED IT.
>> IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BOTHER YOU
THAT MUCH.
>> IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME THAT
MUCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYONE'S
MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT.
>> IT'S AN UNUSUAL WAY TO START
RELATIONSHIPS.
>> YEAH.
>> NEV IS BEING VERY NICE.
IT'S INCREDIBLY SELFISH AND
YOU'RE BEING REALLY
IRRESPONSIBLE.
YOU'RE MANIPULATING PEOPLE'S
EMOTIONS.
YOU'RE LEADING THEM ON AND
YOU'RE LYING TO THEM.
IT'S--
>> WELL, THAT'S FINE.
>> IT'S A MESSED UP WAY OF
ENTERTAINING YOURSELF.
YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE [bleep]
WITH THEIR EMOTIONS AND THEIR
LIVES.
JOE THOUGHT HE WAS ABOUT TO
START A WHOLE NEW LIFE.
GOT HIM GOING.
>> I KNOW AND I SAID THAT I AM
EXTREMELY SORRY FOR THAT.
I'M APOLOGIZING.
>> RIGHT.
>> I'M APOLOGIZING IN FRONT OF
ALL THESE FREAKING CAMERAS.
LIKE, WHAT THE [bleep]?
I WOULDN'T COME BACK HERE FOR
JUST, LIKE, NOTHING.
>> SO YOU CAME BACK FOR JOE?
>> YEAH, I GUESS IN A WAY I DID.
>> HOW CAN I BELIEVE ANYTHING
YOU SAY?
YOU JUST [bleep] WITH
PEOPLE IN THEIR HEADS AND MAKE
'EM THINK THEY'RE WITH SOMEBODY
ELSE AND WHATNOT, SO...
I'M JUST--
[clears throat]
I DON'T KNOW, IT HURTS.
IT SUCKS.
IT REALLY DOES.
PRETTY MUCH, LIKE, EVERYTHING
THAT I HAVE TOLD YOU IS REAL.
EVERYTHING IS 100% TRUE.
EVERYTHING IS 100% TRUE. I HAVEN'T LIED ABOUT NOTHING.
I HAVEN'T LIED ABOUT NOTHING.
I THINK I'LL NEED A LITTLE BIT
OF TIME TO THINK THINGS THROUGH,
AND SEE WHAT'S REAL NOW AND SEE
WHAT'S FAKE, I GUESS.
>> YEAH.
>> OKAY.
BYE.
>> BYE, ROSE.
>> BYE, ROSE. >> BYE.
>> BYE.
>> PRETTY MESSED UP.
>> MM-HMM.
>> MM-HMM. COLD-HEARTED.
COLD-HEARTED.
>> I REALLY CAN'T STOP.
I FEEL ADDICTED.
>> YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A
REAL RELATIONSHIP OR YOUR
PROFILES.
PROFILES. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
[knock on door]
>> YEAH.
>> HOLD ON. HOLD ON.
>> WHO IS IT?
>> TELEVISION SHOW.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> HEY, GOOD MORNING.
[laughs]
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> JUST CHECKING UP ON KARI
ANN'S PROFILE, WHICH IS
APPARENTLY STILL UP.
APPARENTLY STILL UP. HEY, DID I WAKE YOU UP?
HEY, DID I WAKE YOU UP?
WE WERE CALLING TO CHECK IN,
WE WERE CALLING TO CHECK IN, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SURE.
SURE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
HEY.
IS ANYONE HOME?
>> NO, JUST ME. THAT'S IT.
>> NO, JUST ME. THAT'S IT. >> JUST US.
>> JUST US.
>> I JUST WANTED A CHANCE TO
KIND OF MAYBE EXPLAIN MYSELF A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
>> SURE.
>> SO AT FIRST, I'D STARTED
DEVELOPING FEELINGS FOR JOE, SO
I JUST DECIDED I'M JUST GONNA
START TALKING TO HIM, SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
>> YOU DID, OR KARI ANN DID?
>> WELL, KARI ANN, WHATEVER.
[laughs]
>> SO YOU HAVE A PROFILE ALSO.
>> WELL, YEAH.
>> FOR YOU.
>> YEAH.
AS KARI ANN, I ADDED HIM, AND
THE MORE WE WERE TEXTING AND
TALKING ON THE PHONE, HE MADE ME
FEEL, LIKE, SPECIAL.
HE WAS REALLY SWEET AND JUST,
LIKE, REALLY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT
EVERYTHING I TOLD HIM.
I'M SURE HE'S HURT RIGHT NOW AND
UPSET WITH ME, PISSED AT ME.
IT JUST GO MAYBE A LITTLE OUT OF
HAND.
>> YESTERDAY, YOU DID SAY THAT
YOU WANTED TO SHOW THAT YOU MEAN
WHAT YOU SAY.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
SOMEONE THAT YOU CARE ABOUT OR
YOUR PROFILES, WHAT DO YOU
THINK?
>> I JUST DON'T THINK I'M READY
TO GIVE IT UP.
>> I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME TO
REASSESS, OR AT LEAST JUST TRY
TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT YOU GET FROM
IT.
EVERY MORNING WHEN YOU LOG ON,
HOW DO YOU FEEL?
>> JUST LIKE I'M LOGGING ON TO
MY OWN PAGE, CHECKING IT.
WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, LIKE,
THROUGH THE FAKE PROFILES, I GET
DIFFERENT FEELINGS THAN IF I
WOULD JUST TALK TO THEM AS ME.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU--THE ONLY
WAY YOU CAN REALLY BE HAPPY IS
TO USE THESE PROFILES.
>> YEAH.
I GUESS IT HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE
CRAZY SINCE, YOU KNOW, I DO DRAG
CRAZY SINCE, YOU KNOW, I DO DRAG PEOPLE INTO IT.
PEOPLE INTO IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
ME.
OVER THE YEARS OF DOING THIS, I
THINK IT REALLY HAS AFFECTED ME.
I'VE GOTTEN OTHER PEOPLE
INVOLVED IN IT.
MY OTHER FRIENDS.
I REALLY CAN'T STOP.
I FEEL ADDICTED, BUT THERE--
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A REHAB
FOR FAKE FACEBOOK PROFILES.
>> WELL, THERE'S THIS.
>> [laughs]
>> LET'S BRING UP THE PROFILE
AND GO THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS ON
HERE.
YOU HAVE 723 FRIENDS.
I MEAN--
>> YEAH.
>> HOW DO YOU KEEP YOUR STORIES
STRAIGHT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I SAY
TO PEOPLE, AND I REMEMBER WHAT I
TELL THEM.
>> WHO IS THIS GUY, JEFF?
>> JUST SOME GUY.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW HIM IN REAL
LIFE.
>> NO.
>> WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHAT DOES
THAT SAY?
>> [laughs]
>> YOU--
>> I KNOW I--
>> YOU ASKED HIM IF HE WANTED TO
GET ENGAGED.
>> WELL, FACEBOOK ENGAGED.
>> OH, WELL, AND THIS GUY CALLS
YOU ON THE PHONE, AND DO OTHER
GUYS CALL YOU ON THE PHONE?
>> MM-HMM.
[laughs]
I KNOW IT'S NOT FUNNY.
>> AS SOMEONE WHO'S ADMITTEDLY
ADDICTED TO THIS, WHAT YOU'RE
DOING...
>> MM-HMM.
>> IS THAT THE PERSON THAT YOU
WANT TO BE?
IS THAT--ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THIS
LIFE THAT YOU'RE LIVING?
>> I WOULDN'T LIKE TO CONTINUE
>> I WOULDN'T LIKE TO CONTINUE IT FOREVER.
IT FOREVER.
I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T GET RID OF IT.
>> WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR YOU?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S TOO MUCH STUFF ON HERE
TO GET RID OF.
>> YOU REALLY PUT A LOT AND TIME
AND EFFORT INTO CREATING THIS
WORLD.
I MEAN, IF YOU PUT THAT SAME
INTENSITY AND TIME AND ENERGY
INTO CREATING A WORLD IN WHICH
PEOPLE WEREN'T NECESSARILY
GETTING HURT OR BEING...
>> YEAH.
>> MANIPULATED, LIKE, YOU COULD
BE MAYBE, LIKE, THE NEXT AMAZING
AMERICAN WRITER.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE
READY RIGHT NOW TO POST THAT
READY RIGHT NOW TO POST THAT FIRST STATUS, OR--?
FIRST STATUS, OR--?
>> OKAY.
>> READ IT OUT LOUD HERE.
>> "HEY, EVERYONE, I WOULD JUST
LIKE YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT I AM
GOING TO BE GOING AWAY FOR A
WHILE.
I NEED SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT
THINGS AND TO CLEAR MY HEAD.
PLEASE DON'T CONTACT ME IN ANY
WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
XOXO."
XOXO." I'M POSTING IT.
I'M POSTING IT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
BLANK SLATE.
BLANK SLATE. >> [clears throat]
>> [clears throat]
>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH: THE TV
SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
>> IT'S KIND OF WEIRD.
>> I KNOW, ISN'T IT?
>> A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW.
SO WHAT'S UP?
>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
YESTERDAY.
>> ALL RIGHT, YOU--YOU LEAD.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU?
DO YOU THINK SO?
>> YEAH, BUT YOU LEAD.
>> WELL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE
AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING.
>> FOR MESSING AROUND WITH ME?
>> I GUESS I JUST HAVE A LOT OF
ISSUES I HAVE TO DEAL WITH, AND
I DID TODAY.
I POSTED A STATUS SAYING THAT
I'M GOING TO BE GOING AWAY FOR A
WHILE.
>> YOU POSTED THAT AS YOURSELF
OR AS...
>> ON HER--
>> KARI ANN?
>> ON KARI ANN'S STATUS.
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD
STEP.
>> THROUGHOUT THE TIME THAT WE
WERE TALKING, I FOUND OUT THAT
YOU WERE A PRETTY COOL GUY.
>> MAN, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.
THAT MAKES ME SMILE.
>> I DEVELOPED FEELINGS FOR YOU,
LIKE--
>> AS A PERSON?
>> YEAH, LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
>> MM-HMM.
I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BE
FRIENDS FOR RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL
SEE IF WE GO SOMEWHERE LATER.
>> I'M SORRY, JOE.
>> IT'S ALL RIGHT.
>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU ACCEPT MY
APOLOGY.
>> OH, YEAH.
WELL, NOT ANY TIME.
I WAS GONNA SAY "ANY TIME," BUT
NOT ANY TIME.
>> [laughs]
>> "YOU'RE LUCKY," I SHOULD SAY.
>> [laughs]
>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS?
>> WE'RE GOOD.
>> I LEARNED A LOT THIS WEEK.
>> WHAT IS THIS, LIKE, SESAME
STREET?
>> [laughs]
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT COMING INTO
THIS.
I HAVEN'T BEEN FOOLED LIKE THIS
IN A WHILE.
>> I'M SORRY THAT I FOOLED YOU.
>> NO, THAT'S OKAY.
>> MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A
BETTER DETECTIVE.
>> I HAVE WORK TO DO.
>> [laughs]
>> YOU'RE FIRED, DUDE.
GET OUT.
[laughs]
I GOT SHOTGUN.
>> BYE, GUYS.
>> BE GOOD.
>> I'LL BE GOOD.
YOU BE GOOD TOO.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> OKAY.
[laughs]
>> ALL RIGHT, END OF THE LINE.
>> HOME, SWEET HOME.
>> BUT IT WAS A CRAZY
EXPERIENCE, AND I DO THANK YOU
GUYS A MILLION FOR IT, YOU KNOW?
'CAUSE IF YOU GUYS DIDN'T CAME,
I DON'T--LIKE I TOLD YOU
YESTERDAY, I DON'T THINK SHE
EVER WOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT IT
WASN'T HER.
>> YEAH, I DON'T THINK SO
EITHER.
>> I'M STILL FRIENDS WITH HER
AFTER IT ALL, SO THAT SHOULD BE
ALL THAT MATTERS RIGHT THERE.
ACTUALLY, BEFORE YOU GUYS LEAVE,
I WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS DO
SOMETHING FOR ME, IF YOU GUYS
COULD.
IF, LIKE, YOU GUYS COULD DRIVE
DOWN THE ROAD AND RIGHT NEXT TO
ME ON MY FOUR WHEELER AND TELL
ME HOW FAST IT GOES.
>> DEFINITELY.
>> I WANT TO SEE HOW FAST IT
GOES.
>> DEFINITELY.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A SPEEDOMETER?
>> NO, UH-UH.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.
>> ♪ IF I LOVE YOU
♪ WHOO-HOO OOH OOH OOH
♪ OOH OOH OOH OOH OOH OHH OOH
♪ SO HOW DO I KNOW?
♪ HOW DO I KNOW?
♪ HOW DO I KNOW?
♪ WHOO-HOO OOH OOH OOH
>> WHAT'D IT GET?
>> 55, DUDE.
>> DAMN.
ALL RIGHTY, MAN.
I APPRECIATE THAT TOO.
>> NO PROBLEM.
>> THAT WAS FUN.
>> MY PLEASURE.
>> STAY CLEAN.
>> ♪ HOW DO I KNOW?
>> HEY, ROSE.
>> HEY.
>> HOW IS EVERYTHING?
>> GOOD.
>> ♪ HOW DO I KNOW
♪ IF I KNOW YOU?
♪ HOW DO I KNOW IF I LOVE YOU?
♪ WHEN YOU'VE DRAWN
♪ THAT IMAGINARY LINE
>> DO YOU HAVE A ROMANTIC
INTEREST OR--
>> I HAVE A BOYFRIEND.
>> SO HOW DID YOU MEET?
>> WE MET THROUGH THE FAKE
PROFILE.
>> REALLY?
>> ♪ HOW DO I KNOW
♪ IF I LOVE YOU?
♪
>> HEY, JOE.
>> WHAT'S UP, BUDDY?
>> WORD ON THE STREET IS THAT
YOU'RE A HARD MAN TO FIND.
>> PROBABLY TRUE.
>> [laughs]
>> ♪ YOU'VE DRAWN
♪ THAT IMAGINARY LINE
>> SO YOU'VE MOVED ON?
>> OH, YEAH.
LAST I SAW HER WAS WHEN YOU
GUYS PICKED ME UP AND TOOK ME TO
HER HOUSE.
>> THINK YOU'LL EVER PURSUE AN
ONLINE RELATIONSHIP AGAIN?
ONLINE RELATIONSHIP AGAIN? >> NOPE.
>> NOPE.
>> IF I MEET AMANDA, AND SHE IS
WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS, SHE WOULD
BE A SUPER GIRL TO HAVE IN MY
LIFE.
>> THIS GIRL IS LEAVING A WAKE
OF GUYS.
>> MAKES ME WONDER LIKE, "WHO
HAVE I BEEN TALKING TO?"
MAYBE SHE'S, LIKE, SOME SUPER
SEXY FARMER'S DAUGHTER.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THIS.
IS SOMEONE OVER THERE?
IS SOMEONE OVER THERE? >> UH-OH.