Amityville: An Origin Story (2023): Season 1, Episode 4 - The Feedback Loop - full transcript
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Did you feel anything at all
about the little
red room downstairs?
That was like a secret room.
And that was described as
the gateway to hell.
If the red room is there,
then there really is
something supernatural
or satanic about the house.
I'm not sure.
I think it was just a
concrete wall painted red.
My name is Patty Commarato.
I was friends with
Allison DeFeo,
the girl who was murdered
with the rest of her family
here in 1974.
This is the red room.
Nothing more than a storage area
where Allison and her brothers
and I used to keep toys.
Just red, you know?
There's never any feeling
of spirit presence or ghosts
or any sort of thing like that.
Get out.
Haven't you made a lot of money
out of this story,
whether it is true or not,
to the point where
people might well say
they can't properly judge it
because it's been a
profit-making enterprise
to tell the story?
We didn't write the book.
But are you not
involved in the profits
of the book in some way?
We're involved with
the author, Jay
Anson, on profits.
There is also...
We've been accused on occasion
of fabricating a hoax.
And it's very hard
to live a lie.
To daily come up against people
who point a finger and say,
"This can't be.
"You went and you
bought this house
"just to make a book,
"to take your children
and to put them into this
"and to stand them up
in front of the public
"and let the public
ridicule them
for the rest of their lives
for a few dollars." No.
Our parents sold us
out for $275 a head
for the children to be
depicted in the film.
George became obsessed with
this moneymaking venture
from this Amityville story.
And he felt that it was
fine to add fiction to it.
But I know what happened.
You don't get to
play it off like
you were a hero to the family
when you're a perpetrator.
In my closet, there
was a paneling
that revealed an
area behind the wall.
That would have been
where Ronald DeFeo hid
the things that he was trying
to hide from his parents.
Looking in there, there
was two bags of capsules,
pills.
Exactly what kind they were,
I didn't find out
until questioning George
way later in life.
And he was really surprised
that I remembered.
He said they were quaaludes.
So now, I don't know
how quaaludes...
I've never taken them,
so I don't know exactly
how they'd react on the body...
But I do know this:
George had a very different
change in his demeanor...
where he no longer
went into work,
he no longer was
doing personal care.
He became obsessed with
just sitting around the fire
and obsessed with his
boats and his boathouse.
And so to me, that
sounds like a drug binge.
Mama!
Oh, mama! Mama!
We were going to do a sequel
to The Amityville Horror.
We're going to do a second book,
absolutely non-fiction.
We spent the money that we
made from the first book
and from the movie to hire
the writer John Jones.
And then subsequently
go back and interview
all the other people
that had helped us
and had been involved with us
while we were in the
house and afterwards,
telling their stories.
George hired a ghostwriter
for the second book.
And he wanted me to come out
and help with all of that.
And that's when I
moved out to San Diego.
George and Kathy
wanted my recollections
of all these things
that had transpired.
I actually went
out to California.
It turns out,
George seemed to think that
whatever type of
entity was in the house
followed them to California.
And he said to me, "Well,
when we were on the plane
"going to San Diego,
Missy was sitting there
"and said, 'Oh, look,
Jody is on the wing.'"
Missy had a very high
degree of sensitivity.
She truly believed that
they were little playmates
that were there.
It was... it was frightening.
It was very, very,
very, very frightening.
The Warrens became
a part of our lives.
They'd visit us out
in... Out in California
when we were living there.
And the Warrens
started testing us kids
for psychic abilities.
We were walking alone
with the children.
And those innocent little
kids were relating to us
without us asking questions
about things that occurred
to them in that house.
I remember Father Ray
coming to California one time.
It was Father Ray that
suggested that we move out of
the Amityville house.
I felt safe around him.
I remember I just ran
to him and jumped at him
and he picked me up
and I... I just wept.
I remember George asking
later, "Why'd you cry?"
I did ask Father Ray,
"Did you hear a
disembodied voice
"telling you to get out?
"Did you feel something
smack you in the face?
Did that happen?"
And he said "Yes,
that did happen.
That's accurate."
Get out.
Get out!
I vaguely remember it.
I remember James Brolin,
that's the main thing,
and flies or
something like that.
Well, it was a
haunted house movie.
So for me, it's how
well is it done?
Haunted house movies,
they began in France.
I guess the earliest
was George Méliès,
1890s,
and they've always been with us.
It's always the same
kind of basic story.
House is haunted.
People come in.
They get terrorized.
They don't leave like
normal people would,
they stay like movie people do.
Horror is a great
allegorical genre.
Everybody is afraid
in the entire world.
We're born afraid.
We are afraid of
the same things.
It's a universal feeling.
Humor changes sometimes
from country to country.
The horror never changes.
It's a powerful medium
when it's done right.
Part of where the title
Get Out came from,
this goes back to the
old Eddie Murphy routine.
In The Amityville Horror,
the ghost told them
to get out the house.
White people stayed in there.
Now that's a hint and
a half for your ass.
A ghost say get the fuck out,
I would just tip the
fuck out the door.
And he did this Amityville
bit of like, "Get out."
We got a chandelier
hanging up here,
kids outside playing, it's
a beautiful neighborhood.
We ain't got nothing to
worry... I really love...
This is really nice...
"Get out." Too bad
we can't stay, baby.
I'm wondering if you ever saw
Amityville II: The Possession?
Please no, please.
Please, please.
No, life's too short
for some of this.
Now, come on.
I guess the light's
changing, right?
Let me know when you're ready.
I'm gonna just stick
this back there.
Sound is speeding.
Diane Franklin
interview, take one.
- It's changing, right?
- Yep.
Thank you.
My name is Diane Franklin.
And I was the actress
who played the daughter
in the film Amityville
II: The Possession.
The film is about a young family
that moves to the suburbs
trying to start a new life.
I played Patricia Montelli,
based on Dawn DeFeo.
The minute they
come into the house,
there is an energy
that is not normal.
Take off your nightgown.
There.
And with that story,
I don't think anyone
has tackled the subject
of incest that real.
The stories of the brother
who takes on this energy,
taking on the poison of the
family and the household.
She sees this monster
about to shoot her
and she believes he won't
shoot me, he loves me.
What are you doing?
And if you just look
from where you are
and just look at my hand,
it's out of the shot.
- So look out the window again.
- Right.
And just turn to
look at my hand.
Just keep it there.
Okay, and then walk to you.
And then just walk towards me.
Because of Amityville Horror,
I don't believe I'll
ever get out of prison.
You know, they made
a monster out of me.
And the public is
terrified of me
and they don't want me
back out on the street.
I spent the years 2004 to 2007
in prison with Ronnie DeFeo.
In prison, they show
a lot of movies.
But they never showed any of
the Amityville Horror movies
in Green Haven because
Ronnie was there.
And Ronnie would have
made a big old stink
about how showing the movie
would put him in danger.
He also blamed them for
his parole problems.
An Amityville Horror movie
came out at the same time
as his parole hearing.
And he claimed that this made it
absolutely impossible for
him to get a fair hearing.
And that's why he
was denied parole.
It's all because of
those fucking movies,
not because he had
killed six people.
You want me to look
out the window first
and look at Neil's hand
and then walk into Neil.
When he first told me
that the mob rubbed
out his family,
I of course nodded and
said, "Sorry that happened."
It took about a
little over a year
for him to start telling
me a different story.
And go.
Ronnie talked to me
in a hushed voice
and he said, "You know,
it's really fucked up.
"My sister, Dawn,
"murdered my family.
"The only way I survived was by
"taking the gun away
and shooting her.
"It was the worst
thing I ever did.
It was horrible."
I heard a roar. You
know, it was a gunshot.
It was loud.
I soon entered my father's room.
I pushed the light
button on the wall there.
I saw a hole in my
father's back... one hole.
I ran across the hallway, right?
And I saw my little
sister there,
you know.
I started really getting
crazy there, you know.
I saw her... with
her head, you know...
Blood running down
the side of her head.
I ran upstairs then.
The only one alive in
the house was my sister.
I went off.
I threw her across the room.
She went flying, landed
in the bed on her stomach.
That's when I grabbed the rifle.
It was all one big motion.
I... I killed her.
I shot my sister in the head.
Like I say, I just lost it.
It just happened so
quick, I lost it.
Over the years, Ron DeFeo
had several versions of
how his sister, Dawn,
was one of the shooters.
And this story changed
over the decades.
It wasn't just one "Dawn
was involved" story.
My father writes
in his book that
he characterizes
the accusation that
Dawn was one of the
killers as preposterous.
He thought that it
was unlikely that
a young woman who had no
known experience with firearms
would be able to so expertly
move from room to room
and in close range,
with just a shot or two,
kill her siblings.
So my father did not believe
the "Dawn is involved" story.
When I heard him accuse Dawn
of being part of the murders,
I was just astounded.
And I thought, "How dare you?"
She did not have
that in her heart.
She loved her parents.
She loved her siblings.
He was just trying
to deflect, I think.
Yeah, I just knew that
he was full of shit.
I read about the
sequel, The Possession.
I was so incensed. And I'm
trying to remember now.
I'm pretty sure that
was the one where
they tried to now
introduce the idea that
there might have
been some incest.
And I said this is
absolutely now obscene.
They want to make a movie
about whatever that's not true,
you know, call it
something else even.
At that point, it's
really so exploitative.
The Possession shows the
ways in which that story
got out of the Lutz's hands.
The sequel wildly
fabricates things
because that's what we do
with stories like this.
You can't tell the story
in a strictly factual way
because no one... no one
really wants to see that.
What was in this house?
No.
What evil could drive
their son to madness
and destroy everything
and everyone he loved?
Mommy!
Dino De Laurentiis
put out a movie called
Amityville Horror II,
which they eventually
changed to Amityville II
and did it without
our permission.
Amityville II: The Possession.
And that became a
12, 13-year lawsuit.
So even if you have the rights,
even if you're trying to do this
the best way you possibly can
and fix the stuff that's been
wrong or been said wrong,
things will come along and
keep you from doing that.
I remember as a
kid being in school
and we were asked what our
parents do for a living.
I didn't even know what
they did for a living.
I remember asking George.
And he said "I'm a writer."
And I said, "What
do you write about?"
And he said, "Things
that happened."
And that was where he left it.
Amityville became
George's whole project.
It was his business.
He kept the publicity up.
That was his way of working.
He supported his
family with Amityville.
The progression that
George went through
was like, very obsessive
of the notoriety
and getting out there
and his public image.
Behind closed doors, he
was a very different guy
than what he was
portraying publicly.
I asked Kathy a couple of
times about the children.
And she told me that
she was trying to
shelter them from everything
that was going on.
But I didn't think,
at that point,
they were being sheltered.
It was just too public.
And when it happens to a family,
usually they close the door
and they don't talk about it.
Yeah.
And unless these things
are talked about,
they'll never be understood.
When you would talk to
the family and the kids
and I would ask them questions,
they would not go, "Well, um..."
They'd have the
answer right now,
like they'd been schooled.
I listened to James Brolin talk
about how he met the kids
and they sounded like
they were coached.
We were in a situation where
if we weren't on
our best behavior,
we were gonna get the
shit knocked out of us
when we got home.
So to say that we were coached,
the guy doesn't know what
we were going through.
Ooh, "big star."
Okay, so you made your
name off of that movie.
You didn't live it.
George was a former Marine,
a black belt in jujitsu.
I had no defense against him.
So George believed that,
with my mind, I
could make him ill...
even to the point where...
he thought he was gonna die.
And he came in and he started
beating the shit out of me
for my thoughts.
Killing him through
telepathy was just
so fucking fucked up, man.
And I really didn't plan
on talking about that.
I need a minute, man.
Holy fuck.
If the Warrens found that
Christopher, in a sense,
has some psychic ability,
I can see where one step
could lead to another.
Because George,
he was afraid that
Christopher took
the evil with him,
was possessed by the evil.
George was kind of
constantly haunted.
He would hear voices.
We would be driving somewhere
and he would turn around
while he was driving
and yell at something
in the back of the car.
He would be sitting in the room,
and all of a sudden,
he'd get up and start
screaming at something...
telling these spirits or
whatever that was haunting him
to go away, to not bother him.
It gets to the point where
you're convinced that
there is evil, there
is something there.
It kind of felt like George
was acting possessed.
I had found out I was
pregnant with my first child.
And I didn't want
my unborn child
to have to experience
anything like that.
I was just frightened by it.
I went back home to Brooklyn.
I don't want anything to
do with Amityville at all.
I don't want anything
to do with the Lutzes.
And just... I never contacted
George and Kathy
again after that.
Book number two
that he authorized
to have written,
it talks about how he had
to go through an exorcism.
In London, England,
the Archbishop of
Canterbury's exorcist,
Reverend Neil Smith,
he performed for us what some
people would call an exorcism.
I'd call it more of a blessing.
But it was a rite of separation
in the Anglican church.
And it was a separation
from the house,
from the effects of the house.
He looked right
at Kathy and said,
"You're still
affected by this."
Beat down Satan under our feet
and cause all evil
forces to depart!
I've personally
observed exorcism
both in Catholic circles
and evangelical ones.
Exorcism can function
as a placebo ritual.
And that that is then
going to aid them
in their feeling of recovery,
and it actually will
produce a physical sensation
that could, in a way,
improve their condition.
You don't need an exorcism
because you lived
in a haunted house.
You get an exorcism
because you've got demons.
What is it like
to live with a man
that's in need of an exorcism
that's your stepdad
who's treating
you like a stepson
that doesn't care
who the hell you are?
Christopher was always
looking over his shoulder,
like, "Oh, I better not say
anything I'm not supposed to
or I'll get in trouble."
The thing that really
struck me most was that
Danny would just
glare at George.
He did not hide his feelings.
If looks could kill,
I mean, he would have had
laser beams towards George
coming out of both eyes.
Kathy had, from what I know,
an abusive first husband.
And it left her as a
divorced woman in the '70s
with three children,
which, at that time,
it was not exactly
looked well upon.
So when George came along
and was willing to accept her
and the children,
it was wonderful,
from her point of view,
that somebody wanted to
make them a family again.
And she did everything she could
to keep the marriage together
because of the children.
But you said you and Kathy
weren't together anymore.
And I was wondering if you can
say when you divorced and why,
if it had anything
to do with this or...
The reasons we got divorced
are really personal.
We went in separate directions
about exposing the house.
As far as Kathy is concerned,
her point is that she
only wants to deal with
the nonfiction part
and does not believe that
fiction also helps to do that.
My mom became ill.
She had a medical condition
and she needed help.
I took up residence with her,
started to care for
her until her death.
That was when I decided to
change my name
back to Quaratino.
And so for several years, I
got to enjoy the anonymity
of not being associated
with that story anymore.
And then one day,
I got a phone call.
And that's when I found out that
George was getting ready
to make another movie.
Next year, there will finally be
an authorized sequel of sorts,
Amityville Horror:
25 Years Later.
- Is it real?
- Yes, it's in production now.
And you're the first people
I'm telling in the media.
And then I find out
that George's movie
is gonna be about a Lutz
son returning to the house
25 years later,
killing him through telepathy
in the end of the movie.
So I did whatever I could to,
like, stop what he was doing.
I took to the internet.
and I scooped it up.
He sued me for what he said
was a trademark violation.
I can't say that what I had
done actually stopped it,
but I was making as much of
a ruckus about it as I could.
All in favor, sign up
on my Facebook page
and let's make history.
Good night.
I've made myself publicly
available on social media
for about a decade now.
I'm just really amazed at the
stories I hear from people
that were greatly affected by it
when it initially came out.
People of my generation
or even older that, like,
this story really
resonated with them.
There's so many people
in the paranormal field
that I have met
through the years,
having gone to conferences,
and I often ask people,
"What's got you so interested
in the paranormal?"
And so many people have told me,
you know, "When I was
a kid, I saw your...
I saw the movie
about your family."
Enough about the story
resonates as real.
And that's why it continues on.
Why is it you feel like
people want to cling
to this story?
Partially because they have
fantasies that they believe in
and partially because
there's money to be made.
He holds the unique
title of demonologist.
She's a psychic.
Together they just
completed work as
demonology advisors
on the upcoming film
Amityville II: The Possession.
Please welcome Ed
and Lorraine Warren.
The Warrens,
they made a career
for themselves.
They highlighted the fact that
they were involved in our story.
What's the most famous case
you've ever been involved with?
Well, I would have to say
the Amityville Horror,
since it's world renowned.
Years later, I found
out that they had been
the creative consultant
on multiple movies
after the initial movie.
And I didn't find that
to be, like, genuine.
When The Conjuring opened
in theaters in 2013,
it was a box-office hit
that raked in $137
million in the U.S.
and terrified
audiences worldwide.
This is as close to hell
as I ever want to get.
People would attach
themselves to this
in one way or another.
Jay Anson, having been
penned as the author,
is the one that's making
the big money on it.
Last I know, he made,
like, 16 million on it.
16 million.
My parents made, like, 400,000.
Get out!
It's a remake that's
really worthy,
simply because the
original doesn't...
I don't believe,
holds up after time.
Kill them!
The greatest haunted
house story ever told.
Catch them.
Kill them.
Catch 'em and you kill 'em.
You catch 'em and you kill 'em.
Ronnie DeFeo kept repeating
this over and over.
I've never seen
anything like this.
"How can I get a fair
hearing when all they know
is that I catch
'em and kill 'em?"
He was angry at Hollywood.
He claimed that he should
have been compensated
for his contribution to the
Amityville Horror movies.
The Amityville Horror
really is supposed to be me.
Because I'm the one that
got convicted of
killing my family.
I'm the one they say did it.
I'm the one that's
supposed to be possessed.
He had told me
about the mob stuff,
and then said Dawn
killed the whole family.
So I guess it's implied that
he had acknowledged that
the mafia story wasn't true.
From what I understood,
the father had
legitimate connections
with the mafia.
But this did not
spread to the son.
The mob guys in the jail
wouldn't have anything
to do with him.
I mean, they actively
disliked him.
They felt he was an
embarrassment to them.
I don't believe organized crime
had anything to do with that.
Anything.
There were two major rules:
you never killed
a guy in his house
and you never killed him
in front of his family.
That was the rule and you
didn't break that rule.
The horror itself is my
family getting killed.
I guess that's the only
really tragedy here.
Everything else...
it's fantasy really.
It's fiction.
When Ronnie died in
2021, I felt really sad,
which is kind of strange
because he's a multi murderer.
He hadn't been, like, the
greatest guy I ever met.
He was actually an
oddity, if anything.
And I was surprised that he died
a little younger than I thought.
But he had been using
drugs his whole life,
as a prisoner too.
Also, of course, prison
is a stressful place
and it wears on you.
My grandmother was the
secretary to Father Ray.
One of his annulment cases
was George's first marriage.
She really documented everything
because she just had a
bad intuition over time.
And the intuition was just,
there's something there,
but I don't know what it is.
I was married previously
also to a Catholic.
And as part of the annulment
proceedings for that marriage,
I was called down to
the diocese office
and interviewed.
The annulment documents
do reveal things
about George's past
and have never been released.
Yeah, so the letter, um,
from the therapist
was quite interesting
because of the fact that he
has the perspective from both
George and his first wife.
And she defines
her role as being
a maid in his office
and in his home.
He never allowed me
to open my mouth.
Yeah.
He'd proudly use terms
as, "I got her trained,"
to defiantly state his
position in their marriage.
"His rigid expansive
attitude appeared to conceal
"a very frightened individual
"who was most insecure
concerning his role
as a male and husband."
George has effectively
extorted money.
She invested all of her savings,
and he refused to allow her name
to appear on the
title of the house.
This is a little
uncomfortable to read.
There is evidence that
he abused her physically
on several occasions.
Apparently, she required
medical assistance
for injuries that were
inflicted by George.
The feedback from the
medical expert, it says,
"In this case, with
the preparation
"I am able to state with
medical and moral certainty,
"that at the time
of his marriage,
"George Lutz was suffering from
"a serious personality disorder.
"This would appropriately
be diagnosed as
antisocial personality."
"George Lutz was
suffering from a serious
"personality disorder.
"His callousness and
selfishness is typical
"of the sociopathic
or antisocial personality."
I'm kind of mystified
that somebody can be
that much of a chameleon.
I'm shocked that
he hid it so well.
I really am.
Antisocial personality disorder
is a diagnosis that tends
to be given to people
who have a blatant disregard
for the rights of others.
These are people who
do not show empathy
or remorse for other people.
And they're oftentimes
believed to be manipulative.
So they might
present differently
or say different
things or shift facts
when they're talking
to different people.
In 2006, Dr. Hoge,
a psychiatrist,
interviewed Ronnie DeFeo to
get a better understanding of
how Ronnie DeFeo was presenting,
how he was thinking
about the crimes.
He believed that Ronnie
DeFeo was experiencing
an antisocial
personality disorder,
that he seems to be
more manipulative.
Sometimes individuals try to
give an excuse for violent
behavior or abusive behavior.
"The devil made me do it" or
"I was possessed at the time."
And sometimes these
individuals will
even undergo exorcisms,
as in the case of the
Lutz family stepfather.
So that can be a
little bit puzzling.
How do we interpret that?
Our only answer is that
we're not totally sure.
There was a tribe of Indians
called the Shinnecocks,
and they used this land
as a sort of exposure pen.
They put all the
crazy people here,
and they left them here to die.
The Amityville Horror film
is the first time in cinema
where the Indian burial
ground trope is used.
That's why no one
ever buried a human
being out there.
You are thinking of
putting him out there.
Don't deny the thought
hadn't crossed your mind.
The Indian burial
ground trope...
I like to call it the IBG...
Is the idea that
if a place is built
on an Indian burial ground,
it is somehow more
haunted or evil
or is going to inspire
something really
dreadful to happen.
And yes, the Shinnecock
Nation exists on Long Island.
They would venture to the
area of the Amityville house
for possibly hunting.
But it wasn't really part
of their traditional land.
The Indian burial
ground in movies
is just such a cliché.
But people love that
shit. They eat it up.
The site is supposed
to be located on
an Indian burial ground,
and I believe they
actually had to
repel a few Indian attacks
as they were building it.
Why is it that the
Indian burial ground
is always what people claim?
This was their burial ground.
Is it the white settler guilt?
Whose burial ground?
Mi'kmaq Indians.
Is it this idea that there
has to be some kind of evil...
to justify why we
took this land?
Even popular ghost shows
and the paranormal
hunters that go out,
it's a very easy explanation,
especially if
you're in the areas
that are associated
with tribal people.
Perhaps we can think
about this as a way
of dealing with the kind
of repressed and
unspoken complicity,
especially in suburbia,
as a way of trying to tease out
some of the unspoken violence,
the unspoken horror of
American history itself.
The fact that so many people
wanted the story to be true
or in fact believed
the story to be true
is much more revealing and
is much more interesting
than whether the story
itself is true or not.
What really happened is that
we all joined in the story.
It became something
that is self-sustaining.
It became kind of
a feedback loop.
You can come into a
space you think is yours,
but it has history.
There's traces, there's trauma.
Did this actually happen?
Maybe something did
happen that was demonic.
We still don't know how to
reckon with historical trauma.
It still rises up
to battle with.
If you think about
buildings that have seen
great violence or
great suffering,
you think to yourself,
"Maybe they should
be haunted."
There should be something here
because that way,
it would mean that
all of that pain and suffering
hasn't been forgotten.
She was shot in the head!
I never thought it was
gonna be the basis of
an enduring story that
we're still talking about
nearly 50 years later.
This has got to be the end.
I don't understand why people...
I don't know why people
are so interested in it.
I guess because
it's a ghost story
and people love ghost stories
and they want to
believe they're real.
You want to believe there's
something beyond our lives,
something that's beyond us.
Everyone in the world
that I've spoken to,
if I mention it, know
about this story.
They're fascinated by it.
But the sad thing is
that he killed everybody.
No! No! No!
No!
I think a lot of it's true
and a lot of it's not.
And I don't think there was a
demon in the house doing it.
I think there's some
people in this world
are as evil as demons.
I believe it's
now been 32 movies
that have attached the
name Amityville to them
to capitalize upon this crap
that I went through as a kid.
And none of those people give
a shit what really happened.
George was embroiled in
one lawsuit after another.
He had a lawsuit going with MGM
over the 2005 remake.
After that lawsuit was settled,
May 6, 2006,
George has a massive
heart attack...
and dies.
Ronnie still haunts me.
Maybe I had a shot at
getting the truth out of him.
I wanted to look him
in the eye and say,
"What went down?"
But we'll probably never know.
And that's a shame.
I feel like Ronnie
committed the murders alone.
He's scum.
And he's dead now and
he's rotting in hell.
And that's my feeling.
No doubt George was a victim
of the karma that he put out.
"I'm gonna make a
movie about my son
killing me through telepathy."
I'm not gonna tell
the story about
what happened the
day that he did die.
But that thing that he
wanted in the movie?
Careful what you wish for.
The house will continue
to be a time bomb...
ticking away, ticking away.
One fine day, someone
will move into that house
who have some of the qualities
of young Ronald DeFeo Jr.
And it'll start all over again.
♪ You were always
Trying to mold me ♪
♪ Mold me
♪ But I'm not made of clay
♪ Oh
♪ You were always
Busy molding ♪
♪ Molding
♪ Dating girls Half your age ♪
♪ I know you like
working With your hands ♪
♪ But hands are for holding
---
Did you feel anything at all
about the little
red room downstairs?
That was like a secret room.
And that was described as
the gateway to hell.
If the red room is there,
then there really is
something supernatural
or satanic about the house.
I'm not sure.
I think it was just a
concrete wall painted red.
My name is Patty Commarato.
I was friends with
Allison DeFeo,
the girl who was murdered
with the rest of her family
here in 1974.
This is the red room.
Nothing more than a storage area
where Allison and her brothers
and I used to keep toys.
Just red, you know?
There's never any feeling
of spirit presence or ghosts
or any sort of thing like that.
Get out.
Haven't you made a lot of money
out of this story,
whether it is true or not,
to the point where
people might well say
they can't properly judge it
because it's been a
profit-making enterprise
to tell the story?
We didn't write the book.
But are you not
involved in the profits
of the book in some way?
We're involved with
the author, Jay
Anson, on profits.
There is also...
We've been accused on occasion
of fabricating a hoax.
And it's very hard
to live a lie.
To daily come up against people
who point a finger and say,
"This can't be.
"You went and you
bought this house
"just to make a book,
"to take your children
and to put them into this
"and to stand them up
in front of the public
"and let the public
ridicule them
for the rest of their lives
for a few dollars." No.
Our parents sold us
out for $275 a head
for the children to be
depicted in the film.
George became obsessed with
this moneymaking venture
from this Amityville story.
And he felt that it was
fine to add fiction to it.
But I know what happened.
You don't get to
play it off like
you were a hero to the family
when you're a perpetrator.
In my closet, there
was a paneling
that revealed an
area behind the wall.
That would have been
where Ronald DeFeo hid
the things that he was trying
to hide from his parents.
Looking in there, there
was two bags of capsules,
pills.
Exactly what kind they were,
I didn't find out
until questioning George
way later in life.
And he was really surprised
that I remembered.
He said they were quaaludes.
So now, I don't know
how quaaludes...
I've never taken them,
so I don't know exactly
how they'd react on the body...
But I do know this:
George had a very different
change in his demeanor...
where he no longer
went into work,
he no longer was
doing personal care.
He became obsessed with
just sitting around the fire
and obsessed with his
boats and his boathouse.
And so to me, that
sounds like a drug binge.
Mama!
Oh, mama! Mama!
We were going to do a sequel
to The Amityville Horror.
We're going to do a second book,
absolutely non-fiction.
We spent the money that we
made from the first book
and from the movie to hire
the writer John Jones.
And then subsequently
go back and interview
all the other people
that had helped us
and had been involved with us
while we were in the
house and afterwards,
telling their stories.
George hired a ghostwriter
for the second book.
And he wanted me to come out
and help with all of that.
And that's when I
moved out to San Diego.
George and Kathy
wanted my recollections
of all these things
that had transpired.
I actually went
out to California.
It turns out,
George seemed to think that
whatever type of
entity was in the house
followed them to California.
And he said to me, "Well,
when we were on the plane
"going to San Diego,
Missy was sitting there
"and said, 'Oh, look,
Jody is on the wing.'"
Missy had a very high
degree of sensitivity.
She truly believed that
they were little playmates
that were there.
It was... it was frightening.
It was very, very,
very, very frightening.
The Warrens became
a part of our lives.
They'd visit us out
in... Out in California
when we were living there.
And the Warrens
started testing us kids
for psychic abilities.
We were walking alone
with the children.
And those innocent little
kids were relating to us
without us asking questions
about things that occurred
to them in that house.
I remember Father Ray
coming to California one time.
It was Father Ray that
suggested that we move out of
the Amityville house.
I felt safe around him.
I remember I just ran
to him and jumped at him
and he picked me up
and I... I just wept.
I remember George asking
later, "Why'd you cry?"
I did ask Father Ray,
"Did you hear a
disembodied voice
"telling you to get out?
"Did you feel something
smack you in the face?
Did that happen?"
And he said "Yes,
that did happen.
That's accurate."
Get out.
Get out!
I vaguely remember it.
I remember James Brolin,
that's the main thing,
and flies or
something like that.
Well, it was a
haunted house movie.
So for me, it's how
well is it done?
Haunted house movies,
they began in France.
I guess the earliest
was George Méliès,
1890s,
and they've always been with us.
It's always the same
kind of basic story.
House is haunted.
People come in.
They get terrorized.
They don't leave like
normal people would,
they stay like movie people do.
Horror is a great
allegorical genre.
Everybody is afraid
in the entire world.
We're born afraid.
We are afraid of
the same things.
It's a universal feeling.
Humor changes sometimes
from country to country.
The horror never changes.
It's a powerful medium
when it's done right.
Part of where the title
Get Out came from,
this goes back to the
old Eddie Murphy routine.
In The Amityville Horror,
the ghost told them
to get out the house.
White people stayed in there.
Now that's a hint and
a half for your ass.
A ghost say get the fuck out,
I would just tip the
fuck out the door.
And he did this Amityville
bit of like, "Get out."
We got a chandelier
hanging up here,
kids outside playing, it's
a beautiful neighborhood.
We ain't got nothing to
worry... I really love...
This is really nice...
"Get out." Too bad
we can't stay, baby.
I'm wondering if you ever saw
Amityville II: The Possession?
Please no, please.
Please, please.
No, life's too short
for some of this.
Now, come on.
I guess the light's
changing, right?
Let me know when you're ready.
I'm gonna just stick
this back there.
Sound is speeding.
Diane Franklin
interview, take one.
- It's changing, right?
- Yep.
Thank you.
My name is Diane Franklin.
And I was the actress
who played the daughter
in the film Amityville
II: The Possession.
The film is about a young family
that moves to the suburbs
trying to start a new life.
I played Patricia Montelli,
based on Dawn DeFeo.
The minute they
come into the house,
there is an energy
that is not normal.
Take off your nightgown.
There.
And with that story,
I don't think anyone
has tackled the subject
of incest that real.
The stories of the brother
who takes on this energy,
taking on the poison of the
family and the household.
She sees this monster
about to shoot her
and she believes he won't
shoot me, he loves me.
What are you doing?
And if you just look
from where you are
and just look at my hand,
it's out of the shot.
- So look out the window again.
- Right.
And just turn to
look at my hand.
Just keep it there.
Okay, and then walk to you.
And then just walk towards me.
Because of Amityville Horror,
I don't believe I'll
ever get out of prison.
You know, they made
a monster out of me.
And the public is
terrified of me
and they don't want me
back out on the street.
I spent the years 2004 to 2007
in prison with Ronnie DeFeo.
In prison, they show
a lot of movies.
But they never showed any of
the Amityville Horror movies
in Green Haven because
Ronnie was there.
And Ronnie would have
made a big old stink
about how showing the movie
would put him in danger.
He also blamed them for
his parole problems.
An Amityville Horror movie
came out at the same time
as his parole hearing.
And he claimed that this made it
absolutely impossible for
him to get a fair hearing.
And that's why he
was denied parole.
It's all because of
those fucking movies,
not because he had
killed six people.
You want me to look
out the window first
and look at Neil's hand
and then walk into Neil.
When he first told me
that the mob rubbed
out his family,
I of course nodded and
said, "Sorry that happened."
It took about a
little over a year
for him to start telling
me a different story.
And go.
Ronnie talked to me
in a hushed voice
and he said, "You know,
it's really fucked up.
"My sister, Dawn,
"murdered my family.
"The only way I survived was by
"taking the gun away
and shooting her.
"It was the worst
thing I ever did.
It was horrible."
I heard a roar. You
know, it was a gunshot.
It was loud.
I soon entered my father's room.
I pushed the light
button on the wall there.
I saw a hole in my
father's back... one hole.
I ran across the hallway, right?
And I saw my little
sister there,
you know.
I started really getting
crazy there, you know.
I saw her... with
her head, you know...
Blood running down
the side of her head.
I ran upstairs then.
The only one alive in
the house was my sister.
I went off.
I threw her across the room.
She went flying, landed
in the bed on her stomach.
That's when I grabbed the rifle.
It was all one big motion.
I... I killed her.
I shot my sister in the head.
Like I say, I just lost it.
It just happened so
quick, I lost it.
Over the years, Ron DeFeo
had several versions of
how his sister, Dawn,
was one of the shooters.
And this story changed
over the decades.
It wasn't just one "Dawn
was involved" story.
My father writes
in his book that
he characterizes
the accusation that
Dawn was one of the
killers as preposterous.
He thought that it
was unlikely that
a young woman who had no
known experience with firearms
would be able to so expertly
move from room to room
and in close range,
with just a shot or two,
kill her siblings.
So my father did not believe
the "Dawn is involved" story.
When I heard him accuse Dawn
of being part of the murders,
I was just astounded.
And I thought, "How dare you?"
She did not have
that in her heart.
She loved her parents.
She loved her siblings.
He was just trying
to deflect, I think.
Yeah, I just knew that
he was full of shit.
I read about the
sequel, The Possession.
I was so incensed. And I'm
trying to remember now.
I'm pretty sure that
was the one where
they tried to now
introduce the idea that
there might have
been some incest.
And I said this is
absolutely now obscene.
They want to make a movie
about whatever that's not true,
you know, call it
something else even.
At that point, it's
really so exploitative.
The Possession shows the
ways in which that story
got out of the Lutz's hands.
The sequel wildly
fabricates things
because that's what we do
with stories like this.
You can't tell the story
in a strictly factual way
because no one... no one
really wants to see that.
What was in this house?
No.
What evil could drive
their son to madness
and destroy everything
and everyone he loved?
Mommy!
Dino De Laurentiis
put out a movie called
Amityville Horror II,
which they eventually
changed to Amityville II
and did it without
our permission.
Amityville II: The Possession.
And that became a
12, 13-year lawsuit.
So even if you have the rights,
even if you're trying to do this
the best way you possibly can
and fix the stuff that's been
wrong or been said wrong,
things will come along and
keep you from doing that.
I remember as a
kid being in school
and we were asked what our
parents do for a living.
I didn't even know what
they did for a living.
I remember asking George.
And he said "I'm a writer."
And I said, "What
do you write about?"
And he said, "Things
that happened."
And that was where he left it.
Amityville became
George's whole project.
It was his business.
He kept the publicity up.
That was his way of working.
He supported his
family with Amityville.
The progression that
George went through
was like, very obsessive
of the notoriety
and getting out there
and his public image.
Behind closed doors, he
was a very different guy
than what he was
portraying publicly.
I asked Kathy a couple of
times about the children.
And she told me that
she was trying to
shelter them from everything
that was going on.
But I didn't think,
at that point,
they were being sheltered.
It was just too public.
And when it happens to a family,
usually they close the door
and they don't talk about it.
Yeah.
And unless these things
are talked about,
they'll never be understood.
When you would talk to
the family and the kids
and I would ask them questions,
they would not go, "Well, um..."
They'd have the
answer right now,
like they'd been schooled.
I listened to James Brolin talk
about how he met the kids
and they sounded like
they were coached.
We were in a situation where
if we weren't on
our best behavior,
we were gonna get the
shit knocked out of us
when we got home.
So to say that we were coached,
the guy doesn't know what
we were going through.
Ooh, "big star."
Okay, so you made your
name off of that movie.
You didn't live it.
George was a former Marine,
a black belt in jujitsu.
I had no defense against him.
So George believed that,
with my mind, I
could make him ill...
even to the point where...
he thought he was gonna die.
And he came in and he started
beating the shit out of me
for my thoughts.
Killing him through
telepathy was just
so fucking fucked up, man.
And I really didn't plan
on talking about that.
I need a minute, man.
Holy fuck.
If the Warrens found that
Christopher, in a sense,
has some psychic ability,
I can see where one step
could lead to another.
Because George,
he was afraid that
Christopher took
the evil with him,
was possessed by the evil.
George was kind of
constantly haunted.
He would hear voices.
We would be driving somewhere
and he would turn around
while he was driving
and yell at something
in the back of the car.
He would be sitting in the room,
and all of a sudden,
he'd get up and start
screaming at something...
telling these spirits or
whatever that was haunting him
to go away, to not bother him.
It gets to the point where
you're convinced that
there is evil, there
is something there.
It kind of felt like George
was acting possessed.
I had found out I was
pregnant with my first child.
And I didn't want
my unborn child
to have to experience
anything like that.
I was just frightened by it.
I went back home to Brooklyn.
I don't want anything to
do with Amityville at all.
I don't want anything
to do with the Lutzes.
And just... I never contacted
George and Kathy
again after that.
Book number two
that he authorized
to have written,
it talks about how he had
to go through an exorcism.
In London, England,
the Archbishop of
Canterbury's exorcist,
Reverend Neil Smith,
he performed for us what some
people would call an exorcism.
I'd call it more of a blessing.
But it was a rite of separation
in the Anglican church.
And it was a separation
from the house,
from the effects of the house.
He looked right
at Kathy and said,
"You're still
affected by this."
Beat down Satan under our feet
and cause all evil
forces to depart!
I've personally
observed exorcism
both in Catholic circles
and evangelical ones.
Exorcism can function
as a placebo ritual.
And that that is then
going to aid them
in their feeling of recovery,
and it actually will
produce a physical sensation
that could, in a way,
improve their condition.
You don't need an exorcism
because you lived
in a haunted house.
You get an exorcism
because you've got demons.
What is it like
to live with a man
that's in need of an exorcism
that's your stepdad
who's treating
you like a stepson
that doesn't care
who the hell you are?
Christopher was always
looking over his shoulder,
like, "Oh, I better not say
anything I'm not supposed to
or I'll get in trouble."
The thing that really
struck me most was that
Danny would just
glare at George.
He did not hide his feelings.
If looks could kill,
I mean, he would have had
laser beams towards George
coming out of both eyes.
Kathy had, from what I know,
an abusive first husband.
And it left her as a
divorced woman in the '70s
with three children,
which, at that time,
it was not exactly
looked well upon.
So when George came along
and was willing to accept her
and the children,
it was wonderful,
from her point of view,
that somebody wanted to
make them a family again.
And she did everything she could
to keep the marriage together
because of the children.
But you said you and Kathy
weren't together anymore.
And I was wondering if you can
say when you divorced and why,
if it had anything
to do with this or...
The reasons we got divorced
are really personal.
We went in separate directions
about exposing the house.
As far as Kathy is concerned,
her point is that she
only wants to deal with
the nonfiction part
and does not believe that
fiction also helps to do that.
My mom became ill.
She had a medical condition
and she needed help.
I took up residence with her,
started to care for
her until her death.
That was when I decided to
change my name
back to Quaratino.
And so for several years, I
got to enjoy the anonymity
of not being associated
with that story anymore.
And then one day,
I got a phone call.
And that's when I found out that
George was getting ready
to make another movie.
Next year, there will finally be
an authorized sequel of sorts,
Amityville Horror:
25 Years Later.
- Is it real?
- Yes, it's in production now.
And you're the first people
I'm telling in the media.
And then I find out
that George's movie
is gonna be about a Lutz
son returning to the house
25 years later,
killing him through telepathy
in the end of the movie.
So I did whatever I could to,
like, stop what he was doing.
I took to the internet.
and I scooped it up.
He sued me for what he said
was a trademark violation.
I can't say that what I had
done actually stopped it,
but I was making as much of
a ruckus about it as I could.
All in favor, sign up
on my Facebook page
and let's make history.
Good night.
I've made myself publicly
available on social media
for about a decade now.
I'm just really amazed at the
stories I hear from people
that were greatly affected by it
when it initially came out.
People of my generation
or even older that, like,
this story really
resonated with them.
There's so many people
in the paranormal field
that I have met
through the years,
having gone to conferences,
and I often ask people,
"What's got you so interested
in the paranormal?"
And so many people have told me,
you know, "When I was
a kid, I saw your...
I saw the movie
about your family."
Enough about the story
resonates as real.
And that's why it continues on.
Why is it you feel like
people want to cling
to this story?
Partially because they have
fantasies that they believe in
and partially because
there's money to be made.
He holds the unique
title of demonologist.
She's a psychic.
Together they just
completed work as
demonology advisors
on the upcoming film
Amityville II: The Possession.
Please welcome Ed
and Lorraine Warren.
The Warrens,
they made a career
for themselves.
They highlighted the fact that
they were involved in our story.
What's the most famous case
you've ever been involved with?
Well, I would have to say
the Amityville Horror,
since it's world renowned.
Years later, I found
out that they had been
the creative consultant
on multiple movies
after the initial movie.
And I didn't find that
to be, like, genuine.
When The Conjuring opened
in theaters in 2013,
it was a box-office hit
that raked in $137
million in the U.S.
and terrified
audiences worldwide.
This is as close to hell
as I ever want to get.
People would attach
themselves to this
in one way or another.
Jay Anson, having been
penned as the author,
is the one that's making
the big money on it.
Last I know, he made,
like, 16 million on it.
16 million.
My parents made, like, 400,000.
Get out!
It's a remake that's
really worthy,
simply because the
original doesn't...
I don't believe,
holds up after time.
Kill them!
The greatest haunted
house story ever told.
Catch them.
Kill them.
Catch 'em and you kill 'em.
You catch 'em and you kill 'em.
Ronnie DeFeo kept repeating
this over and over.
I've never seen
anything like this.
"How can I get a fair
hearing when all they know
is that I catch
'em and kill 'em?"
He was angry at Hollywood.
He claimed that he should
have been compensated
for his contribution to the
Amityville Horror movies.
The Amityville Horror
really is supposed to be me.
Because I'm the one that
got convicted of
killing my family.
I'm the one they say did it.
I'm the one that's
supposed to be possessed.
He had told me
about the mob stuff,
and then said Dawn
killed the whole family.
So I guess it's implied that
he had acknowledged that
the mafia story wasn't true.
From what I understood,
the father had
legitimate connections
with the mafia.
But this did not
spread to the son.
The mob guys in the jail
wouldn't have anything
to do with him.
I mean, they actively
disliked him.
They felt he was an
embarrassment to them.
I don't believe organized crime
had anything to do with that.
Anything.
There were two major rules:
you never killed
a guy in his house
and you never killed him
in front of his family.
That was the rule and you
didn't break that rule.
The horror itself is my
family getting killed.
I guess that's the only
really tragedy here.
Everything else...
it's fantasy really.
It's fiction.
When Ronnie died in
2021, I felt really sad,
which is kind of strange
because he's a multi murderer.
He hadn't been, like, the
greatest guy I ever met.
He was actually an
oddity, if anything.
And I was surprised that he died
a little younger than I thought.
But he had been using
drugs his whole life,
as a prisoner too.
Also, of course, prison
is a stressful place
and it wears on you.
My grandmother was the
secretary to Father Ray.
One of his annulment cases
was George's first marriage.
She really documented everything
because she just had a
bad intuition over time.
And the intuition was just,
there's something there,
but I don't know what it is.
I was married previously
also to a Catholic.
And as part of the annulment
proceedings for that marriage,
I was called down to
the diocese office
and interviewed.
The annulment documents
do reveal things
about George's past
and have never been released.
Yeah, so the letter, um,
from the therapist
was quite interesting
because of the fact that he
has the perspective from both
George and his first wife.
And she defines
her role as being
a maid in his office
and in his home.
He never allowed me
to open my mouth.
Yeah.
He'd proudly use terms
as, "I got her trained,"
to defiantly state his
position in their marriage.
"His rigid expansive
attitude appeared to conceal
"a very frightened individual
"who was most insecure
concerning his role
as a male and husband."
George has effectively
extorted money.
She invested all of her savings,
and he refused to allow her name
to appear on the
title of the house.
This is a little
uncomfortable to read.
There is evidence that
he abused her physically
on several occasions.
Apparently, she required
medical assistance
for injuries that were
inflicted by George.
The feedback from the
medical expert, it says,
"In this case, with
the preparation
"I am able to state with
medical and moral certainty,
"that at the time
of his marriage,
"George Lutz was suffering from
"a serious personality disorder.
"This would appropriately
be diagnosed as
antisocial personality."
"George Lutz was
suffering from a serious
"personality disorder.
"His callousness and
selfishness is typical
"of the sociopathic
or antisocial personality."
I'm kind of mystified
that somebody can be
that much of a chameleon.
I'm shocked that
he hid it so well.
I really am.
Antisocial personality disorder
is a diagnosis that tends
to be given to people
who have a blatant disregard
for the rights of others.
These are people who
do not show empathy
or remorse for other people.
And they're oftentimes
believed to be manipulative.
So they might
present differently
or say different
things or shift facts
when they're talking
to different people.
In 2006, Dr. Hoge,
a psychiatrist,
interviewed Ronnie DeFeo to
get a better understanding of
how Ronnie DeFeo was presenting,
how he was thinking
about the crimes.
He believed that Ronnie
DeFeo was experiencing
an antisocial
personality disorder,
that he seems to be
more manipulative.
Sometimes individuals try to
give an excuse for violent
behavior or abusive behavior.
"The devil made me do it" or
"I was possessed at the time."
And sometimes these
individuals will
even undergo exorcisms,
as in the case of the
Lutz family stepfather.
So that can be a
little bit puzzling.
How do we interpret that?
Our only answer is that
we're not totally sure.
There was a tribe of Indians
called the Shinnecocks,
and they used this land
as a sort of exposure pen.
They put all the
crazy people here,
and they left them here to die.
The Amityville Horror film
is the first time in cinema
where the Indian burial
ground trope is used.
That's why no one
ever buried a human
being out there.
You are thinking of
putting him out there.
Don't deny the thought
hadn't crossed your mind.
The Indian burial
ground trope...
I like to call it the IBG...
Is the idea that
if a place is built
on an Indian burial ground,
it is somehow more
haunted or evil
or is going to inspire
something really
dreadful to happen.
And yes, the Shinnecock
Nation exists on Long Island.
They would venture to the
area of the Amityville house
for possibly hunting.
But it wasn't really part
of their traditional land.
The Indian burial
ground in movies
is just such a cliché.
But people love that
shit. They eat it up.
The site is supposed
to be located on
an Indian burial ground,
and I believe they
actually had to
repel a few Indian attacks
as they were building it.
Why is it that the
Indian burial ground
is always what people claim?
This was their burial ground.
Is it the white settler guilt?
Whose burial ground?
Mi'kmaq Indians.
Is it this idea that there
has to be some kind of evil...
to justify why we
took this land?
Even popular ghost shows
and the paranormal
hunters that go out,
it's a very easy explanation,
especially if
you're in the areas
that are associated
with tribal people.
Perhaps we can think
about this as a way
of dealing with the kind
of repressed and
unspoken complicity,
especially in suburbia,
as a way of trying to tease out
some of the unspoken violence,
the unspoken horror of
American history itself.
The fact that so many people
wanted the story to be true
or in fact believed
the story to be true
is much more revealing and
is much more interesting
than whether the story
itself is true or not.
What really happened is that
we all joined in the story.
It became something
that is self-sustaining.
It became kind of
a feedback loop.
You can come into a
space you think is yours,
but it has history.
There's traces, there's trauma.
Did this actually happen?
Maybe something did
happen that was demonic.
We still don't know how to
reckon with historical trauma.
It still rises up
to battle with.
If you think about
buildings that have seen
great violence or
great suffering,
you think to yourself,
"Maybe they should
be haunted."
There should be something here
because that way,
it would mean that
all of that pain and suffering
hasn't been forgotten.
She was shot in the head!
I never thought it was
gonna be the basis of
an enduring story that
we're still talking about
nearly 50 years later.
This has got to be the end.
I don't understand why people...
I don't know why people
are so interested in it.
I guess because
it's a ghost story
and people love ghost stories
and they want to
believe they're real.
You want to believe there's
something beyond our lives,
something that's beyond us.
Everyone in the world
that I've spoken to,
if I mention it, know
about this story.
They're fascinated by it.
But the sad thing is
that he killed everybody.
No! No! No!
No!
I think a lot of it's true
and a lot of it's not.
And I don't think there was a
demon in the house doing it.
I think there's some
people in this world
are as evil as demons.
I believe it's
now been 32 movies
that have attached the
name Amityville to them
to capitalize upon this crap
that I went through as a kid.
And none of those people give
a shit what really happened.
George was embroiled in
one lawsuit after another.
He had a lawsuit going with MGM
over the 2005 remake.
After that lawsuit was settled,
May 6, 2006,
George has a massive
heart attack...
and dies.
Ronnie still haunts me.
Maybe I had a shot at
getting the truth out of him.
I wanted to look him
in the eye and say,
"What went down?"
But we'll probably never know.
And that's a shame.
I feel like Ronnie
committed the murders alone.
He's scum.
And he's dead now and
he's rotting in hell.
And that's my feeling.
No doubt George was a victim
of the karma that he put out.
"I'm gonna make a
movie about my son
killing me through telepathy."
I'm not gonna tell
the story about
what happened the
day that he did die.
But that thing that he
wanted in the movie?
Careful what you wish for.
The house will continue
to be a time bomb...
ticking away, ticking away.
One fine day, someone
will move into that house
who have some of the qualities
of young Ronald DeFeo Jr.
And it'll start all over again.
♪ You were always
Trying to mold me ♪
♪ Mold me
♪ But I'm not made of clay
♪ Oh
♪ You were always
Busy molding ♪
♪ Molding
♪ Dating girls Half your age ♪
♪ I know you like
working With your hands ♪
♪ But hands are for holding