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When my life took the turn
that it took,
I said to myself, "Everywhere
that I go for the rest of my
life, somebody is gonna walk
up to me and say...you.'"
And so a couple of days go by
and nobody said...you."
And then months go by and years
go by, and I'm like...
I always know when somebody
wants to say...you,"
but nobody does.
Nobody ever does.
So it took five years.
I was staying in this
rental house, called an Uber.
He pulls up on the other side
of the street
right in front of the bar.
We cross the street
and this guy stands up,
and he says, "Hey, Lance."
And I'm like, "What's up, man?"
And he goes...you!
...you! ...you! ...you!"
And the next thing you know --
he's with like six or seven
people -- they all stand up
and start going...you!
...you! ...you!
You...cheater! ...you!"
My friend says, "Get in the car
right now," 'cause she's
thinking, "He's about to walk
over there and punch
the...out of this guy,"
which would have been obviously
a really bad idea.
And I would have done
that most of my life.
I was shocked and I was mad,
and I was like,
"I have to do something.
I have to act. I'm me.
Me, Lance Armstrong,
doesn't just let...like that
happen and not do something."
Call the bar.
"Here's my credit card number.
Whatever they're eating,
whatever they're drinking --
I don't care what it is,
how much it is, how expensive --
it's on me, under one
condition -- You have to go out
there and say, 'Guys, Lance
took care of everything,
and he sends his love.'"
I said, "Make sure you tell them
that I send my love."
Some people just can't chill
the...out.
They're pissed still,
and they will be pissed forever.
He does evoke a strong
response.
Positive or negative.
He is a person that gets
into people's heads.
And he knows that.
He likes that.
It's just
the core of his identity
that he's able to do that.
The talk out there is that
this is basically something to
feature Lance Armstrong's effort
to resurrect his reputation,
and that yours is going to be
a fairly sympathetic portrayal.
It would be hard for me
to believe that Lance won't try
to shape any narrative
about him, including yours,
including anyone he deals with.
I'm not gonna lie to you,
Marina, I'm not.
And I'm not saying
that they will.
But I'm gonna tell you my truth,
and my truth is not my version.
My truth is the way
I remember it.
This case with the postal
qui tam case, there are really
three parties, right?
There's me, there's
the government and then there's
the whistleblower,
which is Floyd Landis.
So, in order for the deal
to go away or a deal to be made,
all parties have to agree.
So we have agreed
and settled with the government.
You know, they started
eight years ago
for 100 million bucks, and, you
know, and we settled it for
five.
So it's still a lot of money,
but I avoid the nuclear option.
Which is?
Well, which is potentially
$100 million,
which is a number I don't have.
You know, each side has
to be willing to make a decision
they don't want to make.
I went above and beyond that,
and at some point
you just have to stop.
Why would you not want
to go to trial?
It's funny.
Like, if -- it sounds --
and it sounds stupid because
if you believe in your case,
you believe in your case
and you think it's 100%.
But they literally handicap
these things.
Like, okay, if they want
$100 million, and there's a 10%
chance you lose,
then you should be willing to
give them $10 million.
They handicap it like that.
So was there a 5% chance that I
was gonna lose and get smoked?
I mean, probably.
Um...
So, yeah.
I never would've imagined I
would've settled for that, but
I'm happy that I did.
So basically, what it means
is we won't spend
the month of May here.
So I just got -- I just got
a month of my life back...
for $5 million.
[ Chuckles ]
The first time you
ever doped, how old were you?
[ Clears throat ] Wow.
Straight into that.
[ Chuckles ]
The first time
you ever doped?
Oh, this is a sensitive
topic.
Um...
[ Sighs ]
You're gonna go there,
right from the gun?
[ Chuckles ]
Probably...21.
I had started doping,
not extensively, but I had
started doping by 1996.
So I kind of got introduced
to it from -- indirectly from a
teammate.
I knew it was either like
join the club or go home
and like finish school
and go get a real job.
There's a bunch of ways
to define doping.
The easiest way to define
it is breaking the rules.
Right, so were we getting
injections of vitamins
and other things
like that at an earlier age?
Yes, but they weren't illegal.
So that, you know...
But did you know?
Know what?
What was in those in --
Oh, of course.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on.
I'm not one of those guys.
I was like, "Ooh.
What do we have here?"
I always asked, I always knew
and I always made the decision
on my own.
Nobody said, "Don't ask.
This is what you're getting."
I never, ever would have gone
for that.
I educated myself on what was
being given,
and I chose to do it.
[ Rain falling ]
As a kid in Texas, you start
with all the sports
that everybody starts with --
with football, baseball,
basketball, soccer.
I just wasn't good.
I wasn't coordinated, I'm
not -- I don't have great
hand-eye coordination, I'm not
fast.
My mom said to me, "Why don't
you join the swim team?"
And I was like,
"Well, I don't know how to swim"
and 12 is late
to join the swim team.
I had to swim
with the 6-year-olds.
It was awful.
It was -- It was just -- It was
miserable.
I cannot believe
that I hung in there.
I just didn't quit.
And I never wanted to quit.
I never came home like,
"Mom, this is embarrassing.
I'm swimming with 7-year-olds.
I'm 12."
If I do quit, then I don't
start doing triathlons
and I don't get on a bike.
I caught on quickly,
so I just kept moving up.
It seemed like it was every week
I was moving a lane over,
moving a lane over.
Until eventually I was,
you know --
Well, then eventually
at the age of 14, then I was --
I don't know -- I got like third
at the Texas championships
in the mile.
I think he was 14 years old,
and I met him at the swimming
pool in Plano, Texas.
We were in town for a big pro
race, so we just found this
pool -- it was kind of random --
and there's this little guy.
He jumped in our lane
and was just looking at us
the whole day, and then after
we got done with our workout,
he was just hanging around
and checking us out
and asking questions.
I mean, you couldn't --
he wouldn't be denied.
In the water, it was
unbelievable.
He would just swim away from me.
He was an amazing swimmer.
Not a pretty swimmer -- a lot of
water flying everywhere.
But he was just really strong.
[ Water splashing ]
Did Higgs tell you about this
crazy thing we're doing up
in Seattle there?
September 23rd?
Yeah.
It sounds amazing.
...crazy.
Really? What is it?
I've never done it,
but it's like a swim run.
But you have to swim
with your running shoes,
run with your wet suit.
No!
Like four miles of swimming,
20 miles of running.
Wow.
That's why
we're here right now.
So we'd been training
together almost a year.
The President's Triathlon
at the time was a big event.
A lot of money,
big invitational.
So I knew the promoter,
and I just said, "Hey, I've got
this kid that I'm working with,
and he's 15.
I know that sounds ridiculous,
but I would really like him
to start the pro race."
And this is the first time
I've raced against Lance in a
race where we start together.
I never saw him.
Out of the water way ahead of
me, and then the story is --
of course, I'm not there,
I'm behind, but I'm hearing
all this stuff -- it's like
he gets out of the water
with the front guys.
They were all looking
at me going, "What
is this kid doing here?
Why is he coming
out of the water ahead of me?"
He's like talking to them,
and they're like going, "Go
away!"
And I'm hearing these stories,
and at the end of the day,
like, he ended up leading
this race at one point.
Like, he started -- I think
he started the run out front
by a long ways.
And this is a 15-year-old kid
with the best triathletes
in the world.
And it's so funny because
I believe it was Mark Allen
that won that race.
It was Lance on television.
It was Lance
getting the interviews.
He was the story.
His life was never the same
after that.
I like going out on
the weekends and having fun
with my friends.
And I like girls, too.
[ Chuckles ]
Even from an early age, he
had that very A-type
personality.
It was full throttle
all the time.
If we went to go do something
it was -- he had to just do it
better or crazier.
If we lit one firecracker, he
had to light 100 firecrackers.
It was just that constant --
that constant push at all times.
Four-point range.
Armstrong
for the three-pointer.
That's what made it, I think,
hard for a parent
is at an early age he had
an idea of where he wanted to go
and what he was gonna do,
and there was no stopping that.
When you're competing
on a professional level
with the pros,
you've got competition.
And Lance is a very driven
person, and he loves challenges.
She always believed
I could do anything.
She wasn't a real disciplinarian
either.
I mean, I sort of did
whatever I wanted to do, which
is a miracle I'm not, like, a
mass murderer at this point.
But she was -- and she was
young, I mean, we know that --
everybody knows she was young.
I was this young, young girl
growing up in Texas.
Drill team, homecoming princess
and this and that.
And I'm 16 years old,
and I get pregnant.
Not something your mom
wants to hear about,
but truly this was my salvation.
And I gave birth
to this 9-pound, 12-ounce --
almost 10-pound baby boy.
Came the day he was due
when I was 17 years old.
Golly darn, he was so cute!
If you think about having me
at 17, we really grew up
together.
When I was 5, she was 22.
So, and, you know,
when I was 20, she was 37.
I didn't know anything about
my biological father.
I mean, he -- I knew his name.
His name was Eddie Gunderson.
But if somebody would have said
to me, "Where does he live?"
I would have said,
"I don't know."
And I didn't want to know.
Not in a mean way, but I just --
I wasn't interested.
He chose to leave our lives
and he never tried
to come back into the lives.
The marriage ended quickly.
It was an abusive
relationship, and again,
it was just one of those
situations that for the good
of my son and myself
I needed to move on.
I had a date with Linda.
I picked her up at her
apartment, and we went out to
dinner.
And we came home,
and here was this little boy.
I saw the picture in my mind
of a family ready to go.
I adopted Lance when, I believe,
he was 3 years old.
That's why Lance's last name
is Armstrong, because when you
adopt somebody, they change
the birth certificate.
So my name is on his birth
certificate as the father.
As I was growing up,
she was married twice.
And they were -- You know,
they were okay guys.
I mean, they were --
they were not terrible.
Terry Armstrong might have been
kind of terrible.
I mean, you talk
about disciplinarian --
I mean, if I left --
if he said, "Don't leave your
drawer open or you're gonna
be in trouble," and sure enough
I would leave a drawer open,
and he would pull out his
fraternity paddle and just beat
the...out of me.
It's like, if I did that, I
mean, my kids would be getting
spanked every minute of every
day.
Like, who cares
if the...drawer is open?
I was tough on him as far
as cleaning his room up
and, you know, being orderly.
And Linda was always there
when I -- when I did it.
It wasn't a belt.
There wasn't hitting him.
It was just bend over
and take your licks.
That came from five years
in a military school.
Very regimented.
So I was kind of by-the-book.
The failure of my bringing up
Lance...I was the taskmaster,
but I didn't put my arms around
him enough and tell him I loved
him.
I was always there,
always coaching him,
always pushing him,
but I didn't show him the love
that I should have.
Lance would not be the champion
he is today without me,
'cause I drove him.
I drove him like an animal.
That's the only thing
I feel bad about --
did I make him too much
win-at-all-cost?
They were sort of done
when I was around 15,
which was great and fine
and then it was back to me
and my mom.
I would always think about
changing my name back to --
I guess my biological name.
But I never even began to start
that process, so it couldn't
have been that serious.
And then at some point
it's too late, you know, because
by the age of 15, you know,
I was already establishing
myself and my career and "brand"
or whatever that means,
and so then it was too late.
Plus it's a good name.
I like the name.
Lance Armstrong.
I think that's a good name.
It's better
than Lance Gunderson.
That's kind of a weird name.
A lot of these races in
the Texas or in the Southwest,
you had to be minimum age
to do a triathlon,
you had to be 16.
So we'd forge my birth
certificate.
I understand the reason
for the certain age requirements
because there's
a lot of liabilities,
they were gonna swim
in a lake and this and that.
But it meant so much to him.
Get in, just enter and then
kick their ass.
Like, just win.
So forge the birth certificate,
compete illegally
and beat everybody.
That bully thing that has
come up a lot in the rhetoric
about him over the years,
I mean, I saw that from day one.
Bermuda was the biggest
race in the world.
Ridiculous prize list.
Everybody was flown in.
All the top triathletes
were flown in.
I rented him a scooter.
My credit card.
"This is how you get around.
This will be fun
if you want to go somewhere."
Well, he abused the scooter
pretty bad.
He didn't take care of it.
He didn't bring it back
when he should have.
"Well, man, don't worry about
it.
Just don't worry about it."
Like he's actually saying,
"I can beat you, so there's
nothing more you can do for me."
And then I remember having
a hard time with Linda on that.
It's like, "Okay, Linda, take
him to Bermuda, he's breaking
stuff, he takes no
responsibility for anything and
then he's mouthy and
disrespectful."
And she's like, "Well, you don't
have any authority over him."
I'm like, "You're the one
that sent me there
to be his chaperone."
So I kind of got flicked
at that point, and that stung.
That stung a lot.
I was the hot shot junior,
the poster boy of USA Cycling.
We were at the Olympic training
center, and we started hearing
stories about these two kids
from Plano, Texas, that were
triathletes.
And I hear all these stories
about this one kid
in particular named Lance.
And I'm like, "Okay, how good
could this guy be?"
Of course the coach pairs me
with Lance for a 10-minute,
two-man time trial,
which is basically two guys
swapping off as hard
as you can go five minutes
down the road,
five minutes up the road.
First segment was a tailwind.
So we were going quite fast,
and I wasn't impressed.
I was like, "This is the guy
that they're talking about?"
I was just like,
"Okay, you know,
this was a lot of talk."
But as soon as we turned
around into the headwind,
which is much harder,
he started taking these pulls,
and I was, like,
absolutely on the rivet.
I was faking it
as good as I could,
but when the horn
was sounded from behind
and I'm just relieved
that it's over,
and he starts yelling at me,
"Come on, you...
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
I'm not done yet."
I can barely stay on my bike now
and this kid is basically
just warming up.
And you realize right then
and there -- This kid
is a totally different level.
And I just happened to meet
the strongest cyclist
maybe of all time
when I was 17 years old.
[ Laughs ]
I don't -- I don't --
I don't remember,
but that's entirely possible.
I might have called him a...
but we're buddies now.
But he wasn't -- he wasn't a --
He was a whiner,
but he wasn't a...
I did one of the first races,
bike races, pure bike races
that he ever did.
And we didn't know who he was.
I didn't know
what he looked like.
I didn't even know he was there
at that race.
I'd kind of heard a little bit
about the legend.
Right from the first 10 feet
of the race we were full blast.
I mean, we were going 35 miles
an hour before, you know,
before I'd even warmed up.
As we were in
the first miles of the race
and we were going twice
the speed that we would have
normally at that section of
road -- Bobby
was my buddy back then.
And, you know, I rode up
to Bobby and I'm like, "What is
going on?"
And, you know, he screamed back,
and he was like, "That's Lance!"
And, you know,
and that's sort of in a way
how I was introduced to Lance --
as in that Bobby -- you know,
Bobby said, "That's the guy
you've been hearing about.
That's why we're going so fast."
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[ Engine starts ]
Okeydokey...slowpokey.
Well, I graduated high school
at 17 and then left right away.
And came here or not?
Drove -- Drove --
Loaded up a U-haul and drove
here.
I was just making the transition
then to full-time cycling.
So no more tris, no more
swimming, no more running.
From a very young age,
even on a little BMX bike
I enjoyed the escape
of being on a bike.
I was just gonna give it a go
and see what happened.
I got my first -- I guess 1990
was like my first contract
with a cycling team.
I made $18,000 a year.
$1,500 a month.
My rent was $300.
I was like, "I'm...loaded.
I'm loaded."
I was saving money.
And then I think the next year
I made like $24,000.
$2,000 a month.
Then I got recruited away
to go to Motorola, which was
a big professional team.
And then it was sort of
off to the races.
No pun intended.
When I ride a bike,
I can get in a faraway place,
right, or space.
I would think about my goals
or my competition.
And if it was an intense day,
I'd have to -- In my mind,
I would have to
make up these little rivalries,
even if they didn't exist.
I'd just get my hate on.
But then also think about plans.
I would think about making plans
or what my plan was
in my sport, my future.
Yeah, just sort of daydreaming.
How old were you
when you decided to use
an illegal doping product?
In terms of crossing the line
into something that
if you would have admitted
or could've tested positive
for, then that -- that wouldn't
have been until 21 years old.
My first professional season.
[ Indistinct conversations,
gunshot ]
Well, the gun goes and nobody
is going to be in any particular
hurry here to break away.
They're expecting the best part
of six and a half hours in the
saddle, and if these conditions
do persist, then they are going
to be very miserable indeed.
At that time in the sport,
it was cortisone
or cortisone precursors
or, you know, drugs
that stimulate your body's
own production of cortisone.
Well, the hat has gone
in the pocket.
It's come down to very serious
stuff now by the 21-year-old.
He won't be 22 till the end
of this year.
He's one of the youngest-ever
riders to win a world
championship at the professional
level, and the gap
is there for him now.
It is there for Lance Armstrong,
and surely that's big enough.
Now he's looking back and seeing
nobody as he becomes champion
of the world.
Lance Armstrong, 21 years of
age, is America's second only
world road race champion.
I remember sitting
with people in the stands
and they're like,
"Who is this kid
Lance Armstrong?"
Lance, you can't believe it
what you've done?
I can't believe it.
On the last hill,
I looked at my computer and
said, "Maybe there's still one
lap to go," but...
That really kind of opened
the doors
and changed the next phase
of his cycling career.
He rides the roads of Texas
virtually unnoticed, but
Lance Armstrong went anything
but unnoticed in the cycling
world during 1993.
This outspoken 22-year-old
has not won
any popularity contest,
a fact not lost
on the Motorola rider.
The bottom line
is I'm a competitor
and I still like training hard
and going out and kicking ass.
I like that.
And I got a lot more ass to
kick, so...
I mean, in that sense,
I have to look forward to that.
I have to look forward
to going back to Europe
and doing the big races
and winning.
Look out, world.
Yeah, look out.
I mean, there's a lot of races
I haven't won.
I'm not saying I'm gonna win
every race in the world, but...
You can try.
I can try.
Good luck.
All right, man.
At the time, cycling was
a European sport.
Very European.
Not at all American.
Still not, but more.
I'm from Belgium.
Belgians, they're hard workers,
they're ambitious
to a certain point.
But not overly ambitious.
The Belgians were always
a little bit sneaky,
a little bit clever.
The Spanish
are normally very calm.
The Spaniards tend
to be modest,
humble, very unpretentious.
Italians were, and are, loud,
vain, outrageous showmen.
Then the Germans,
which are very organized
and very, like, structured.
And then you have the French.
Yeah, I have to be very careful
because I am German, but...
the French are slightly
superior.
They think they are a little
bit higher up
than everybody else because
they have the Tour de France.
And then you have the Americans.
I've never, never,
never met more weird people
than American cyclists.
And I think there's
an explanation for that, because
it's not your logical choice.
American popular sports
are basketball, football.
So, typically an American
who chooses cycling
is a guy who doesn't fit in.
So you're a kid
from suburban Dallas
living on the shore of Lake Como
surrounded by Renaissance
Italian palaces and very wealthy
Italian vacationers.
It seems kind of out of step
with where you came from.
Well, I always liked the
water.
[ Laughter ]
No, I got real --
I mean, I -- I have had --
the team is --
most of the team lives in Como.
So we've sort of adjusted there
real nicely.
We race on that continent
90% of the time.
I have to live there.
It was eye opening.
I mean, I went from, you know,
being a kid, everything kind of
taking care of me to, hey,
you've got to move to Europe,
find a place to live,
figure it out.
Try to learn the language.
We had a really cool
American young network
with myself, Lance, Frankie,
Kevin Livingston, Bobby Julich.
That was nice.
We had our own little sort of
American family away from home.
Four of us were living
in a three-bedroom apartment,
so when everyone was there
I was on the couch.
And Lance had
this beautiful house on the lake
that he lived with by himself.
And you know, you're an
American, you're lonely,
you want to hang out with people
and speak your native tongue
and, you know, have fun.
Frankie was one of his
closest friends.
He was the only friend who could
tell Lance no repeatedly, tell
Lance how he was screwing up,
tell Lance how he was getting on
his nerves and he didn't have to
worry about Lance cutting him
off.
Everybody else had to honor
the ground that he walked on.
When I was visiting,
we went out for pizza.
Lance, he was hungry, so
he wanted his food right away.
And so he started saying,
"These f'ing Italians take so
f'ing long to get the food out."
I said, "You're not in America.
This is Italy.
Eating is a little bit different
here.
It's gonna take a while.
They understand
what you're saying."
He said, "I don't care."
I speak a few words
of Italian, but it's rough.
I mean, when you go somewhere
and you just can't get your
point across.
It's very frustrating.
In America, it's the
World Series.
In England, it's the soccer
Cup Final.
In France, it's the
Tour de France.
The emphasis is on endurance
as the world's hardiest
bicyclists travel 3,000 miles.
Mountains, rough roads
and hairpin curves
add to the hardship.
The first Tour de France
was in 1903.
It was born as like a
promotional scheme for
newspapers to get attention in
the summer.
And so the whole thing
was like concocted
as this circus at the boundary
of human performance.
At first the people that
competed at the Tour de France,
they were working in mines
and it was a dirty sport.
It was rough.
It was for people that are used
to working physically very hard.
Cycling was a
working-class sport.
People felt as though they could
really identify with the riders
because the riders were the sons
of farmers and factory workers.
The kind of people that
they would have contact with
on a daily basis.
[ Speaking French ]
[ Speaking Italian ]
The Tour de France is hard
to explain to the average
person.
You need to see it.
You need to breathe it
and live it one time to
understand how nuts it truly is.
It's arguably the world's
most difficult athletic event.
It's 21 days, over 2,500 miles,
on some of the world's
most punishing roads.
It's like running a marathon
every day for three weeks.
The peloton can be a pretty
scary place.
The peloton is essentially
the group of cyclists
that ride a race.
It looks like an amoeba,
but it's traveling at the speed
of a high-speed train.
Riders will be within
a few millimeters of each other
and a few millimeters
of crashing.
A moment's inattention
can bring the whole thing down.
The shoulder -- Oh!
There's a crash!
He's hit a wheel and has gone
down...
When it's game on, it's the
most intense pain and suffering.
Like, I mean, you're at
the absolute maximum and you're
in the best shape of your life.
Everyone is at the absolute
maximum.
And you're going as fast
as everybody can.
And there's gonna be crashes.
Everyone knows there's going
to be crashes.
It creates nervous energy.
Like, it's just like,
"There's gonna be a crash.
Who's gonna be in it?"
There's helicopters.
There's police on motorcycles
trying to get by honking.
There's cars behind you.
Like, it's so many variables
happening at once.
It's traumatic.
[ Chuckles ]
Yeah.
It's such an intensely
dangerous sport.
We're going down hills
in the Alps on roads
that are five feet,
six feet wide
at 60 miles an hour in the rain,
on little tiny bikes
with very skinny wheels
and dressed in essentially
what's the equivalent
of your underwear.
Everyone is willing
to risk their life to win.
If we were seriously
concerned about our health,
then we would find
another sport.
So in that sense,
it's not a valid argument
saying that doping is dangerous
because we are risking our lives
every day anyways.
The whole idea of riding
that far over three weeks
is vaguely ridiculous,
and so to do it
at the highest level, people
have always just sought
additional help to get it done.
There was a period
in the sport
where people started to learn
that you could do things
to enhance your performance.
But this was before it was
considered to be cheating.
And there were no morals
and ethics around this.
They were still figuring it out,
and we forget that now.
And there are periods where
nobody frowned upon
taking external substances
to improve your performance.
It was not considered
to be doping.
It was just ingrained
in the culture of the sport,
you know, up until the time
that I got there from Plano,
Texas, and I was like, "Hmm."
At that time, there
was Russian rider
on this Italian team.
And he was like my age or 23
or so, and I said to him,
"Look, do you think actually
that it's really fair what
we're doing, like ethically?"
And he said, "Look, I'm 23,
I'm living in Italy,
I'm normally from Siberia
and I have two kids.
What should I do?"
Painkillers, cocaine,
amphetamines.
People have taken every
imaginable drug during the Tour
and pushed the limits
of what's ethical
since the sport began.
The real dynamic of the race
changed when Amgen developed
synthetic erythropoietin, EPO.
That drug suddenly
increases your body's ability
to transport oxygen by raising
the red blood cell count.
The rumors of EPO
began in '93.
I mean, that plague began
in the late '80s truly.
People were scared of it.
There was all these ideas
that people were dying from it.
And then I won the world
championships in '93 somehow.
Wore the rainbow jersey
through '94.
I got my ass kicked every day.
All year long.
Wearing the world champion's
jersey.
We had already been dabbling
in low-octane,
you know, whatever it was,
cortisone, whatever was around.
But EPO was a whole
nother level.
The performance benefits were
so great that the sport
went from low-octane doping,
which had always existed, to
this really high-octane
rocket fuel.
And so that was
the decision we had to make.
This Italian team
Gewiss completely dominated.
The Gewiss-Ballan team,
they had some fantastic years
from '93 to '95 and basically
won everything they touched.
People were like,
"Who the...is training
these guys?"
That was Ferrari's coming out.
[ Speaking Italian ]
EPO was like wildfire,
and we still didn't.
We refused.
Nobody on Motorola '94 made
that leap.
All the way through the year,
had no results.
'95, um...it's even crazier.
Like, it's just everywhere.
Lance Armstrong was
the last American to win
a stage in the Tour de France.
That was 1993.
Now here he is trying to get
position on Serguei Outschakov.
The gap is now 35 seconds,
and that is big enough
I would think for these two
to decide this stage
of the Tour de France together.
Armstrong is in
a developmental phase
of his career.
He's only 23.
He admits he's made
some mistakes in this Tour.
He's aware of the pressure
there is on him to excel --
some of it self-imposed.
Lance has him where he
wants him now and he's not going
to come by him again
until he goes for the gears
and gives him just about all the
speed he has left in those legs
after what has been
a tremendously long day
in the saddle
for all of the breakaway.
Outschakov is gonna ride
close to the barriers on the
left so Armstrong must come over
on his right shoulder.
Give him one way.
Armstrong now begins to make his
move.
Outschakov goes immediately
but goes right
to the center of the road.
Armstrong holding the back wheel
of Outschakov.
Very shortly Armstrong
is going to have to kick,
but I don't think he's got it.
Outschakov has everything.
Outschakov takes it on the line.
Armstrong will be very,
very annoyed about that,
but he never had it on the line.
That was terrible.
It's just terrible.
[ Chuckles ]
I mean, I really feel bad.
I can't tell you
how disappointed I am.
I didn't --
I was out there 200 K's,
and every 200 of them,
every one of them, I thought
for sure I was gonna win.
And to get second is...
it's devastating.
I think it's a learning
experience for him here this
year, and we're on our mission
and our objective to finish the
race.
So I don't think that
Lance is doing anything
except right now really taking
in a lot of information
and hoping to be able to use
that next year.
He hated losing
with a passion.
He couldn't if when someone
was better than him.
He couldn't stand
if someone was beating him.
He couldn't stand just not
being part of a winning team
or winning himself.
He should have been
at that point
in time progressing his career,
and instead he was regressing
in his career.
And the anger was -- you could
just feel it coming off of him.
As he called it, I think at the
moment, "There is an EPO
epidemic going on."
He's like, "These...
need to be caught.
You know, these...
need to be taken out."
Eddy Merckx had sent Axel,
his son, to go and see Ferrari,
to be trained by Ferrari.
Eddy Merckx was by general
consensus the greatest cyclist
of all time.
He won the Tour de France
five times,
he won the Giro d'Italia
five times,
he won every race you could win
in professional cycling.
I asked Eddy, I said, "Will
you introduce me to Ferrari?"
So I went there in the winter of
'95 for my first test
and then started working
with him full time in '96.
My relationship with Ferrari
was highly confidential.
As was his relationship
with everybody.
We would dread seeing Ferrari
because the first thing
he would do would be like grab
your stomach like, "Oh, you've
been eating a bit too much."
Or like, the first thing
he would do is measure your fat.
Telling you you're fat
when you, you know,
you're pretty much anorexic
is probably not the best thing
for a 24-year-old kid.
He was direct.
But it worked for me.
Whatever he said, I did.
To the word.
Ferrari was a proponent of less
is more.
Because we would ask, we'd be
like, "Oh, I heard somebody is
doing this, I heard somebody is
doing that.
And should we think about that?"
He's like, "Lance, all you need
is the red cells."
So EPO, which then
became transfusions or bags,
and that's it.
I don't have any personal
experiences with Dr. Ferrari
to point to.
I did have to deal with athletes
that Dr. Ferrari
manipulated values on.
To me, that's a continuation
of people who want to lie,
cheat and steal from others
to gain an advantage trying
to justify what they're doing.
There were clean athletes who
did not get to have experiences
because of their actions,
and I'm one of them.
I had people tell me
when I came over there,
"It's like you've got a choice.
You're gonna do it or you're
not.
And if you're not, have
no expectation of any success
whatsoever, because you won't."
By the start of 1996,
he physically looked
like a different person.
You know, he was much lower
body fat and much --
just looked stronger.
And, you know, he was winning
or placing in every single race
he was entering and was no
longer upset about people
doping.
There's a wild-looking house
up there too.
Man, I haven't seen that.
What is that?
I'm gonna make you very
happy.
We'll grab Grace.
[ Cellphone ringing ]
This is the house that I built
in the mid-'90s.
Started in '94, moved in in '96.
Paid 200,000 bucks for the lot.
Wow.
Construction contract
with pool was about $600,000.
Had it all in for less than a
mil.
I was 24 years old --
24 or 25 years old -- and all my
neighbors were like 70.
They probably thought,
"Wait, who's building that?"
When did you sell it?
In 2000.
Why did you sell it?
Uh, you know, I think it was
only three bedrooms or four
bedrooms, and we had Luke and
then when you guys were coming,
we weren't gonna have room.
Or something.
Sold it for two.
There's room for a couple
of kids in this house.
Yeah, right.
[ Laughs ]
You can go faster.
Okay.
Lance left my house when he
was 17 years old and grew up.
He was out of the country
90% of the time.
When he was home,
that was off-season.
I was running one of the more
popular bars in Austin.
If you wanted to get into my
bar, you had to wait in line.
We had a line
wrapped around the corner.
But if you wanted to get in
without waiting in line,
you needed to know me.
So I knew almost every girl
in town
that wanted to get into my bar.
Lance was not very well known.
I mean, they knew, like, "I
think that's the cyclist guy."
So Lance just thought, "Oh, my
God, this guy knows every girl."
Our day consisted of wake up in
the morning, go for a bike ride,
go have some lunch.
I had a ski boat.
We would go out on the boat.
I'd call a few girls.
They'd come join us in the boat.
We'd ski.
I'd come home,
I'd take a nap for a little bit,
I'd go to work,
Lance would come in the bar,
hang out, I'd introduce him
to a lot of people,
wake up the next day
and just do it all over again.
Every day.
It couldn't get any better.
One day we're out on a bike ride
and he told me about this pain
in his testicle, which was not a
comfortable conversation that
you want to have with your
friend.
Not only big,
but just...hurt.
Like to the touch, to --
if -- if you just --
any -- sitting on the bike.
It just -- And I'm like --
I'm like, "Jesus, is this
what -- I mean, is it because
I'm -- is it because
I sit on a bike all day long?"
Today was supposed to be
Lance Armstrong's day
at the Tour de France.
Instead, the Austinite
has called it quits.
He's feeling so bad, he thinks
he might have bronchitis.
When I came home in September
after the season,
then the symptoms got a little
more serious.
Even then I ignored them.
Until the day
that I started to cough.
Blood everywhere.
And I kept coughing and more
blood, coughing, more blood.
It's just everywhere.
It looked like a crime scene.
And so I called my neighbor.
He's like, "All right.
We're going to the doctor."
However long it takes them
to print out an X-ray, minutes.
He just -- three or four of them
up there and he says, "You have
advanced testicular cancer."
And I mean, it is just -- the
chest, both sides, both lungs --
just littered -- golf balls.
I was like, "Whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa. whoa. Stop.
Time out. Hang on. Are you --
I mean, I know I see this,
but are you sure, like..."
And he said, "I'm so sure,
I've scheduled surgery
for 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning."
And I was like, "Oh...
It was...
It was a long drive home.
He calls me, and my knees
just buckled.
I'm like, "What?"
Like, you don't know what to
say.
And so he's like, "I have to go
into surgery tomorrow morning."
And I'm like, "Well, on what?"
I mean, this just shows you
the ignorance of a 27-year-old
that has never dealt with this.
I'm like, "On what?"
He's like, "They've got to
remove my testicle."
I never knew anybody
who had cancer.
Nobody I knew.
Nobody I worked with had cancer.
Certainly, she never thought
that she would have
to face this
and to face that dilemma of,
"Oh, my God, am I going
to outlive my only son?"
I was praying to God...
[voice breaking] ...it's not
Stage 4.
It'll be 2. It'll be 3.
And then learning
it was Stage 4...
Devastating.
Realistically, what
are his chances?
With what Lance had,
almost none.
We told Lance initially 20%
to 50% chance, mainly to give
him hope.
But with the kind of cancer
he had, with the lung X-rays,
the blood tests, almost no hope.
You know, cancer was what you
got when you smoked cigarettes
or when you led a poor lifestyle
or, you know, had asbestos in
your house, or --
I was like, wait a minute,
I'm one of the fittest people
in the world.
Why?
On Wednesday, October 2nd,
I was diagnosed
with testicular cancer.
On Thursday,
October 3rd, I underwent surgery
at St. David's Hospital
here in Austin to have
the malignant testicle removed,
and the surgery was successful.
In terms of degrees of the
disease, my condition is
considered to be between
moderate and advanced,
and thus yesterday I began
my first day of chemotherapy
treatment.
I will undergo chemotherapy
for at least 12 weeks,
and then depending on
how I respond to the treatment,
may have to undergo
more chemotherapy
and other procedures
to fight this disease.
We found out that it had
metastasized to his brain.
He looked sick.
They shaved his head
to do the surgery, and that was,
you know, that was the period
where you thought, yeah,
he might not make it.
You kind of thought, hey,
you know, survival is success.
Survival with
your faculties intact.
Survival and the ability
to have a job.
I mean, survival and be
a bike racer was, you know,
almost too good to consider.
First he had a testicle removed.
Then he had brain surgery.
Then he had chemotherapy
for his lymph nodes and lungs
and, you know, his whole body.
Laying in the hospital bed
and puking your brains out, not
knowing if you were gonna
live or die...
It was a competition to me.
Right, so you had cancer as
the -- as the enemy,
and you had me as the good guy.
And all of the things that we
monitor, tumor markers, chest
X-rays, those were all stats
and things on the scoreboard.
The tumor marker
was the scoreboard.
It was a game to me.
But it was a game
of life and death.
Armstrong's toughness
recently paid off
in some holiday cheer.
His blood levels are now normal,
the spots on his lungs reduced.
This is the very, very best
Christmas that I have ever had
in my whole life, bar none --
that he will be cured
and that we'll be blessed
with his health from now on.
Until you're five years clear
from a cancer treatment, you're
always worried about relapse.
And, you know, it was in the
back of everybody's mind,
this moment may not last.
Do you think you got cancer
because of the doping?
You know, I [sighs] I don't
know the answer to that.
And I don't want to say no
because I don't think that's
right either.
I don't know if it's yes or no.
But I certainly wouldn't say no.
The only thing I will tell you
is the only time in my life
that I ever did growth hormone
was the 1996 season.
And so just in my head
I'm like, "Growth, like
growing, hormones and cells --"
Like if anything good needs
to be grown, it does.
But wouldn't it make also sense
that if anything bad
is there that it too would grow?
So, how did you come up
with the idea for
the Lance Armstrong Foundation?
When I was diagnosed, I think
that I looked at my situation
and you had a disease
that young men didn't want
to talk about, which they still
don't want to talk about.
And I don't blame them.
You know, almost immediately,
within a month or two, I
thought, "Let's do something
here.
Let's try to help."
There's no awareness about it.
I didn't know a testicle bigger
than another is a problem.
And that's why when I win this
battle, everybody's gonna know.
And it starts today.
He came to me and to Bart
and a few other people
and wanted to do something.
We had very modest
expectations or ambitions.
We were -- We were gonna have
an annual bike ride in Austin,
try to raise some money,
find somebody to give the money
to and that's it.
We chose a ride that I had
always run as a non-competitive
kind of training race in Austin.
We did the first Ride for the
Roses, I guess that would have
been the February of '97.
It was a major success.
They had like 5,000 riders.
People were on bikes
that they had just dusted
out of their garage.
I mean, just squeaking
down the road.
And you've got to remember,
in Austin, Texas, people kind of
knew who he was but didn't
really know who he was.
They're not out there just to
"I'm gonna ride my bike and
get in shape and everything."
Like, no, they're there
because this is my cause.
To raise money for testicular
cancer awareness.
And for Lance.
It's a great cause.
It was an amazing time.
And you start to learn
about this cancer community.
And we were just going
to donate the money
to the American Cancer Society.
They came, and we met with them.
And we started asking questions.
And all their answers,
boy, it was just not
the answers that we wanted.
They weren't addressing
awareness, patient navigation,
all these things
that would just help a person
navigate the cancer world.
We realized at that time
we needed to do more.
This idea of cancer survivorship
really came home,
and so we started to build
the idea of the foundation
around this idea
of how do we help people
with cancer right now?
We started heading down
the road of doing our own
foundation.
Everyone had the passion,
the purpose,
and that's how great companies,
how great not-for-profits
get started.
And that's how Livestrong
eventually developed.
Oh, wow, there's a...
[ Indistinct talking on radio ]
Byrnesy, quit talking. Let's go.
Is it bad that Anna has her
seat belt on and I don't?
How do you not put
a seat belt on, dude?
What?
You don't have to have it on in
the back seat.
Of course you do.
No, you don't.
It's not a law.
You don't have to have
a seat belt on.
Yes, you do!
No, you don't.
There's not a law
in the back seat
you can have your seat belt off.
It's just if you have a seat
belt, you have to put it on.
If you're on a bus
and you have a seat belt,
you got to put it on.
If there's a seat belt
available, you got to put it on.
We should really -- We should
go.
We got to go.
We do have to go.
We're gonna -- we --
You got to put
your seat belt on.
It'd be kind of a...
move to be late.
[ Chuckles ]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
[ Camera shutters clicking ]
I think they should --
speaking of PR, I think
we should change the name.
A lot of people throughout
this process were like,
"Take him off the ticket.
We don't want him."
But at the end of the day,
someone has to do
what they think is right,
and I think it's right
to give an award to somebody
who has done a lot of good.
Lance Armstrong
is one of the best dudes
I've ever met in my life.
And to see him tonight,
to be able to sit here
and present the Inspiration
Award Babes for Boobs,
to this dude,
I couldn't be any more honored.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Lance Armstrong.
[ Cheers and applause ]
Okay. All right.
Uh, I just want to say one thing
real quick because it's
really -- it is the reason that
breast cancer has become such,
for lack of a better word,
such a successful story.
Because you women
had the courage
and the brains to mobilize
and tell your story
and to ask people to help
and to, you know,
have Washington, D.C.,
get off their ass.
So here's to the women
in the room,
and thank you very much.
[ Cheers and applause ]
[ Laughs ]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
Hey, bro, I think you could
have walked right out the front
and no one would give a...
I mean, at this point
though, isn't the back alley
thing where we've got to walk
by nine dumpsters to get out
of a place a little tired?
Nobody cares.
They either love or hate him.
Take it easy, all right?
Yeah, you too,
thank you very much.
The last five years has really
caused me to, you know, pause
and try to understand not just
myself, but what this story
meant to other people, what this
story meant to the world, right?
And, you know, that's
a heavy thing to think about.
I never knew this story
was as big as it was.
I just -- I knew it was big,
but I didn't know it was --
I didn't know it was that big.
If I was competing today,
I could tell you
who my peers would be, right?
My peers would be
Michael Phelps, LeBron James,
and so I can -- I see where they
are.
And so only now do I realize,
"Okay, that's where you were."
That's where I was.
I really don't miss that.
And I think if I'd have stayed
there, it wouldn't have been
good for my family.
[ Man speaking French ]
[ Applause ]
Motorola lost its sponsorship
in '96.
So that was the last year
of Motorola.
So we were all kind of
just left on our own
to find our own teams.
We had wound up all signing
for team Cofidis, which
is a brand-new French team.
I feel good, I feel strong
standing here, but I still
have a ways to go on the bike.
Lance showed up
at our training camp.
Seeing the other French riders
almost be scared to touch him
or shake his hand,
it was crazy to see him in
that condition where he wasn't
that magnet in the room,
that he was frail,
that he was fragile.
Doesn't have any eyebrows.
Doesn't have any,
you know, hair.
That definitely felt like it
was just a matter of time
before they found a way
to get him out of his contract.
We were at Interbike
together, and that's the big
bike convention.
It's held in Las Vegas
every year.
Lance and Bill could meet with
maybe some of these teams,
and he was getting the stiff arm
from all of them.
And he's like, "Man,
they're just screwing me or
they don't respect me anymore."
We called every team,
and it was either...
or a short conversation.
Part of me was like,
"Well, dude, what do you want?
You wanted them to pay you
$500,000 or $1 million a year
and you haven't done anything.
Let alone you had cancer."
I thought that I'd have a
home, I'd have a team,
I'd have a place,
and there was nothing.
It just didn't seem possible
that he was going to be able
to come back
to the highest level of sport
after cancer.
Only one team wanted me.
Good morning, everyone.
We're very excited about the
news that we're about to
announce.
The Postal Service
is very proud to deliver
this great American athlete
back to the sport of cycling.
It's not like the deliveries
that we normally make.
[ Laughter ]
Lance, on behalf of
the 750,000 men and women
of the US Postal Service,
we're proud to welcome you
to our team.
It wasn't my first choice,
but it was the only choice I
had.
Just one year -- just over
a year ago on October 9, 1996, I
sat before you and shared the
devastating news of my diagnosis
with testicular cancer.
This past year has truly been...
Thom Weisel, who at that time
owned the Postal Service team,
was like, "I want you, Lance,
but we're only gonna pay you
this much."
Which was kind of a little bit
of a slap in the face.
And Lance was like, "Man,
that's just -- That's a joke."
So Bill came up with an idea,
I think, I wasn't there for
this part of the negotiation,
but I do remember
it was tied to UCI points.
UCI is the organization
that runs cycling.
The more points that you have,
the more value you have as a
rider -- just as in football,
the more rushing yards that you
have or more passing yards
that you have, your value's
going to go up.
They said, "Okay,
for every UCI point Lance gets
he'll get $1,000 bonus."
So they took the deal.
He goes and does his first race.
He doesn't do
what he's known to do.
He got dropped in the race
in Pyr?n?es, and he just said,
"I'm out."
He went home.
Like, he didn't know what he was
gonna do.
And I remember we were in France
somewhere and he was just like,
"I can't do this anymore."
That was like the one
of the very few times in my life
or my experience with Lance
where I saw him
where he wasn't sure of himself.
I came back and thought,
"Oh, my God, like, I raced
probably for years
with metastatic cancer
in the lungs, in the abdomen,
in the brain.
Like, it's all gone now.
Like, I'm ready."
And it -- And I got my -- I went
over and got my ass kicked.
There was a lot
of expectations
he would do well here,
but instead mentally
he was broken.
He left for America.
[ Sea gulls calling ]
How did you meet Lance?
I met Lance last year
at the Ride for the Roses.
I was working for an advertising
and public-relations firm,
and we got to be friends.
Both of us were dating
other people at the time
but just sort of clicked.
We were in love and we wanted
to be married and start a
family, and she was a great
supporter of mine as a guy who
was being sort of reentered into
society.
In Santa Barbara,
we all went out to dinner
and she seemed
very sophisticated.
Almost, you know, soft-spoken,
demure, but Lance liked her
because she called him out.
Kind of like
the way Frankie did.
So that's what he really liked
about her.
After dinner he took me aside,
we were walking to the car
and he said, "Bets, come here."
And I said, "What?"
And he said, "What do you
think?"
And I said, "She seems nice.
I don't know why
she's with you."
[ Chuckles ]
I'm easy to get along
with, though.
No, I'm just kidding.
It depends on who you ask.
I am not always
the most level-headed person.
I'm pretty volatile.
She's pretty steady
and I certainly know
I need that in my life.
I need that steadying force,
and before I never had that.
I think for him he was
in this state of mind of,
"Okay, I've been through this
hell physically and...
I want all these things in my
life."
I think that's just natural.
That people that have been
on their death bed
when they come back,
if they don't already have that,
they want it, and they want it
quickly.
After you faced death,
was it hard to take EPO?
Um...you mean the decision?
Because it took --
we did EPO before
and then obviously did it after.
No.
[ Chuckles ]
No.
No.
Because?
Jesus. Sorry.
Um...
In many ways -- and this is not,
you know, this is not going
to be a popular answer,
but in many ways,
EPO is a safe drug.
And, you know,
assuming certain things.
Assuming taken properly,
assuming taken
under the guidance
of a medical professional,
taken in, you know,
conservative amounts.
There are far worse things
you can put in your body.
Do you ever see yourself
doing the Tour again?
[ Sighs ]
I mean, it's such
a long way off, but, I mean...
Yeah, that's --
Uh...
That's a tough one to answer.
My gut tells me, no, never
again.
That's my first instinct.
Yeah.
It's such a hard event,
and I don't know
what's gonna happen with me
and cycling in 1999.
This year it certainly won't
happen.
An investigation into the use
of banned substances
at this year's Tour de France
has led to the expulsion
of the top-rated Festina team.
The team manager admitted
that some of his riders had been
using performance-enhancing
drugs under medical supervision.
The world's most grueling
sporting event all
but collapsed today under
the weight of a drug scandal
that has threatened the very
future of the Tour de France.
[ Woman speaking French ]
All of us were a little bit
shocked that, you know,
law enforcement would come in
on this.
This isn't just a sporting issue
anymore.
Now this is a legal, you know,
penal issue.
Festina showed that a team
was actually --
you could near enough say
on an industrial basis --
utilizing doping products.
These guys were going
to jail.
They were getting, you know,
the old French strip search,
body cavity search
sort of things.
Luckily, I didn't speak
very good French at that time.
[ Man speaking French ]
We would just go into our room,
lock the door, watch MTV,
and wake up in the morning
ready to go again, all motivated
and looking forward to the day.
And then we'd get
to the breakfast table
and all of our French teammates
would have like bags
under their eyes, bloodshot eyes
because they were up listening
to everything on the news.
People are either arrested,
they drop out of the race,
they disappear in the night.
ONCE disappeared.
They just put everybody
on the bus and took off.
Carnage.
It was utter carnage.
People were getting rid of drugs
like they were going out
of fashion -- which I guess
they were, at that race, anyway.
Up till that moment
when that happened,
it was like the Wild West.
Everything very open.
White lunch bags getting
passed out like this.
[ Speaking French ]
Doctors were petrified.
And actually I quite enjoyed
seeing the doctors scared,
because I'd always had a problem
with the doctors.
Because I thought you're meant
to look after people's health,
and kind
of providing performance
enhancing drugs isn't looking
after someone's health, is it?
It was seen that there was
a need for an objective
third party to enforce the
anti-doping rules of a sport.
It was that scandal which led
to the creation of WADA.
The problem at that time
was that the athletes
were ahead of the system.
And it took several years
for WADA to catch up
with exactly what products
the athletes were using
and to create tests for those.
The effects of this Tour --
not over at this point.
Phil Liggett, you've seen 26 of
these.
You've been a part of that
for all these years.
You told me it's the most
amazing race you've ever seen.
What about the Tour de France
in the future?
What kind of an effect
will the controversy have?
The important thing
is the sport of cycling
has been hit very hard.
It must take a real hard
look at itself.
We want the cheats out,
and the only way to achieve that
is to have better dope controls
and to give much
stiffer penalties for those
who are guilty of cheating.
Lance didn't ride
the Tour in 1998.
He had kind of a stop-and-start
season.
I grew really frustrated.
Basically quit.
My wife at the time, Kristin,
and a group of friends
were like, "Look, you can't --
you can't quit like this.
You have to finish the season.
Just go finish the season.
Just ride it out,
and then you can retire."
So when I came back
in the late summer and fall,
I made a deal with myself.
I said, "The only promise I have
is that I will finish
every race that I start.
I won't quit a race."
And I started winning.
Everything.
I won the Tour of Luxembourg.
I won a big race in Germany.
Fourth in the Tour of Spain.
So that's the first time
that I had proven myself
in a three-week race.
And that was a surprise
to everybody.
Surprise to me.
I convinced in the fall,
I convinced Johan Bruyneel
to come on and be
the new director of this team.
You have the Tour de France,
Tour of Italy, Tour of Spain.
There's three races
that are three weeks long.
Anybody who gets a good result,
top five or podium
in one of those big races
has the potential
to be in the front.
I'm not talking about winning,
but in the front
at the Tour de France.
This realization that "Oh,
my God, I'm gonna get
another shot at this --"
another shot at life,
another shot at sport,
another shot at glory,
another shot at money,
another shot at fame.
All these other shots.
Johan said, "You're going
to look really good
standing on the podium at
the Tour de France next year."
That moment cemented
their relationship
because Lance was still
in a very defiant mode
at that point about his illness.
That, you know,
"I'm gonna come back
and I'm gonna show you all."
I held on to a lot
of bitterness about --
If you have 20 teams in the Tour
those other 19...them.
And I was gonna get them.
With the beauty and the
tradition as classic as
the French countryside itself,
the curtain now comes up
on the 1999 Tour de France.
Lance Armstrong now completing
a miraculous recovery
from testicular cancer.
Since 1903, the only thing
that has ever canceled the
Tour de France has been
world war.
Not even last year's
drug scandal could do that.
But when you look at the numbers
and the overview of the course,
this may be
an attempt by Tour organizers
to create an easier race
so that cyclists don't have to
use performance-enhancing drugs.
The challenge the first year
was find or have nine guys
that were actually capable
of riding the Tour de France.
First year was Lance, George,
Kevin Livingston,
Hamilton, Frankie Andreu,
we had a French guy --
Pascal Deram?,
Danish guy, Peter Meinert,
Christian Vande Velde,
who was a young rider,
and then Jonathan Vaughters.
Nine guys.
One is a protected leader for
the team.
Everybody else essentially is --
they use the French term
"domestique," which means
you're in service of the leader.
So we're going into the '99
Tour of redemption.
Everybody's thinking, "Okay.
Well, we had our worst
experience and everything's
gonna be clean now."
And obviously, you know,
I thought so too.
I didn't think
it could get worse.
The drug that was the most
beneficial for cyclists, EPO --
That drug was still
undetectable.
So people could take it
and not get caught.
The performance-enhancing
benefit can be 10%.
Now, consider that the
difference between the first-
place rider and the last-place
rider in the Tour de France
generally is about two hours,
okay, and that's
for a 100-hour race.
So from first to last is 2%,
and the difference of EPO
is 10%.
Now, it's more complicated
than that, of course.
But that gives you a lens
into how much of a difference
this particular drug made.
You had the tremendous
performance benefit,
and you had the fact that nobody
was scared to take it.
If you want to win
the yellow jersey in Paris,
you've got stay up near
the front throughout the race.
And you do that
by doing well in time trials.
And this is the prologue
time trial.
As he was coming back
and getting ready for the Tour
there was one company
that we had talked to,
Bristol-Myers Squibb.
They made all three
of the chemotherapy drugs
that Lance used
to save his life.
It seems like the most obvious
sort of commercial partnership
you could come up with, right?
I spent a year with this company
trying to convince them
and never was able to do it.
He is aiming at 8:09.
He's certainly ahead
of Chris Boardman at this point!
My goodness me! 802.51.
Lance Armstrong with that
performance, Paul, I think may
have done enough.
Look at the face
on Armstrong there.
He's come here on a mission
and today, Phil, he's done
the best prologue time
trial of his life.
Lance wins the prologue,
and my phone rings
and it's John Kouten
from Bristol-Myers Squibb.
He said, "This is the most
embarrassing phone call
I've ever had to make.
We're ready to do a deal."
I didn't expect Lance
to win the prologue.
All of a sudden you go
from like, okay, maybe I can
try to get in the breakaway
or try to win a stage to like...
we've got to, like, protect
the overall lead here."
We were not prepared at all.
It just happened to us
and we were living it
from day to day,
you know, "Okay, another day.
Okay, we survived another day."
In cycling and in general,
I think you'll realize
that most of the guys,
it's such a hard sport
that most people are
just not too big of egos
that are involved just because
one day you're doing great, the
next day you're on the ground.
So I think it keeps
everyone quite humble.
What about Lance?
Lance?
[ Laughs ]
That's good.
Then you have Lance.
Armstrong has won three time
trials this year, two of them
prologues, one on the open road.
I bet he'd trade all three
for the win right now.
This is traditionally one
of the most significant days
of any Tour de France.
Whoever wins today immediately
becomes the odds-on favorite
to win the Tour
and subsequently establishes
the tactics that must be used
by the rest of the field
as we go into the mountains
in the final two weeks.
This is it.
Lance Armstrong has got the
world time trial champion in his
sights, and he's going in.
This is unbelievable.
You could have got
any odds on this happening
and they would have been long.
And he's gonna catch him.
In 1999, I was
It was hosted out of my buddy's
garage in Tampa Bay,
Florida, on a 286 computer.
I got this call.
My friend says, "You have
crashed every server that I
have," because Americans were
starting to clamor for
information about how well Lance
was doing.
We had the opportunity
to take this to the masses
in a way that had never
really been done before, and the
masses cared.
[ Cheers and applause ]
Despite the fans' continued
support this has been
a Tour of Suspicion following
last year's Tour of Shame.
The French media in particular
have speculated that a man
who has been so ill
could only win one of the most
grueling events in sport
with the help of illegal drugs.
A lot of the journalists
who were skeptical about Lance
were skeptical in the first week
of the Tour de France.
And then as Lance
kind of cemented his position
in the yellow jersey,
they found themselves
being more challenged.
The guy's been through so
much.
He deserves this more than
anybody.
He's gonna do it,
and it's for him.
This is his Tour de France.
Tour de Lance!
You can get terrible cancer,
you can recover,
you can come back,
and you can be better
than you ever were before.
People love that story.
But if you were prepared to look
at it with any degree of
honesty, you would say,
"Hold on."
The race would be slower
because they would be using
far less drugs, so the speeds
would drop.
And '99 was the fastest Tour in
history.
Hein Verbruggen and
Pat McQuaid looked the other way
when it was pretty obvious
that Armstrong had been doping.
There were media complaints
that Lance was -- he was a
favored rider of Hein's.
He was helping the sport
become a global sport.
And so Hein at that time would
have thought that Lance was,
you know, a great star and that
he was good for the sport.
If the question is, "How much
did you have Hein Verbruggen
in your pocket?" there's a lot
of different ways to answer
that.
Financially, zero.
Did Hein --
And he's no longer with us
to answer this question himself,
but do I believe that Hein
wanted to protect the sport?
Yes.
Protect me?
Yes, because that protects the
sport.
He was coming off the heels of
Festina.
The world is following this
story of this cancer survivor,
and then bam --
the headline "Cortisone
found in his urine sample."
A number of publications,
including a leading French
sports journal, have insinuated
that Armstrong is on
performance-enhancing drugs,
that a cancer
survivor could not possibly be
strong enough to lead the
world's toughest bicycle race.
There was a sample that came
back that had traces of
a particular type of cortisone,
which I had taken
intramuscularly.
That type of cortisone
was available
a lot of different ways.
You could inject it,
you could have eye drops,
you could have a nasal spray
or you could have a cream.
He's using the cream for saddle
sores.
And so Hein just...
It's like, "That's it.
In one of the controls, there
was in fact some minute traces
of cortisone that was due to the
fact I was using a skin cream.
If it was another cortisone that
was only available through an
injection, I'm...
A year ago today, the Tour de
France, very honestly, was
almost dead.
Scandal surrounding the use of
performance-enhancing drugs
had just about killed this bike
race and ruined the reputation
of the sport.
Ironically, it took
an American, Lance Armstrong,
who had faced death himself, to
breathe life back into cycling
and almost single-handedly
save the Tour de France.
Absolutely right.
If you believe in miracles,
if you believe in fairy tales,
if you believe in life,
then you believe
in Lance Armstrong.
I remember sitting with him,
and Friday
was the final time trial.
Saturday was an easy stage
and then Sunday's
the ride into Paris.
And I remember sitting with him
going, "Hey, man, I wouldn't try
too hard on this time trial.
Like, it doesn't matter.
You've won the thing."
And he looked at me like,
"You are...crazy.
You do not understand anything.
I am the yellow jersey,
and I will win this time trial."
What if he falls over and, like,
something bad happens?
Like, we're going to do
"Letterman" next week.
As he comes up to the line,
it's 16 seconds -- 15, 14.
It is getting desperately
close here.
Zulle versus Armstrong,
and Zulle loses.
Armstrong is the winner
of the time trial -- 01:08:17.
Armstrong takes an almost
unassailable lead of 7:37 into
tomorrow's final stage, which
finishes on the Champs-Elys?es
in Paris.
The specialist climbers
and sprinters have tried
to upstage him along the way,
but Armstrong proved too good
for all of them.
Thousands flocking to see
the yellow jersey's procession
towards the finish line.
The overall winner
of the Tour de France
is the American Lance Armstrong.
And he has been without doubt
the finest rider in this race.
Armstrong says he's living
proof that if life gives you
a second chance, you take it
and make it better
than the first.
I didn't understand
that this story
was going into the hearts
and minds of Americans
and embedding itself
in American sports history.
Congratulations, friend,
on behalf of all of us
in Texas and America.
We're so proud of you.
How are you feeling?
Oh, I'm wasted.
I bet you are wasted.
Tonight, Austin will make
sure he feels welcome.
Thousands of people came
on bicycles and pedaled down
Congress Avenue in Austin,
Texas, to pay tribute to the
most famous bicyclist in the
world.
[ Crowd cheering ]
An outpouring made
all the more special, he said,
because three years ago
when tumors had spread
to his lungs and brain
Austin residents
never gave up on him.
If you're looking
for a personal hero,
if you're looking for somebody
by whom to be inspired, you
could certainly do a lot worse
than this next guy.
Please welcome a champion
and a hero, Lance Armstrong.
When he won after coming back
from cancer, that put him
on a whole different level.
It transcended the sport.
It was about something entirely
different from that day on.
---
When my life took the turn
that it took,
I said to myself, "Everywhere
that I go for the rest of my
life, somebody is gonna walk
up to me and say...you.'"
And so a couple of days go by
and nobody said...you."
And then months go by and years
go by, and I'm like...
I always know when somebody
wants to say...you,"
but nobody does.
Nobody ever does.
So it took five years.
I was staying in this
rental house, called an Uber.
He pulls up on the other side
of the street
right in front of the bar.
We cross the street
and this guy stands up,
and he says, "Hey, Lance."
And I'm like, "What's up, man?"
And he goes...you!
...you! ...you! ...you!"
And the next thing you know --
he's with like six or seven
people -- they all stand up
and start going...you!
...you! ...you!
You...cheater! ...you!"
My friend says, "Get in the car
right now," 'cause she's
thinking, "He's about to walk
over there and punch
the...out of this guy,"
which would have been obviously
a really bad idea.
And I would have done
that most of my life.
I was shocked and I was mad,
and I was like,
"I have to do something.
I have to act. I'm me.
Me, Lance Armstrong,
doesn't just let...like that
happen and not do something."
Call the bar.
"Here's my credit card number.
Whatever they're eating,
whatever they're drinking --
I don't care what it is,
how much it is, how expensive --
it's on me, under one
condition -- You have to go out
there and say, 'Guys, Lance
took care of everything,
and he sends his love.'"
I said, "Make sure you tell them
that I send my love."
Some people just can't chill
the...out.
They're pissed still,
and they will be pissed forever.
He does evoke a strong
response.
Positive or negative.
He is a person that gets
into people's heads.
And he knows that.
He likes that.
It's just
the core of his identity
that he's able to do that.
The talk out there is that
this is basically something to
feature Lance Armstrong's effort
to resurrect his reputation,
and that yours is going to be
a fairly sympathetic portrayal.
It would be hard for me
to believe that Lance won't try
to shape any narrative
about him, including yours,
including anyone he deals with.
I'm not gonna lie to you,
Marina, I'm not.
And I'm not saying
that they will.
But I'm gonna tell you my truth,
and my truth is not my version.
My truth is the way
I remember it.
This case with the postal
qui tam case, there are really
three parties, right?
There's me, there's
the government and then there's
the whistleblower,
which is Floyd Landis.
So, in order for the deal
to go away or a deal to be made,
all parties have to agree.
So we have agreed
and settled with the government.
You know, they started
eight years ago
for 100 million bucks, and, you
know, and we settled it for
five.
So it's still a lot of money,
but I avoid the nuclear option.
Which is?
Well, which is potentially
$100 million,
which is a number I don't have.
You know, each side has
to be willing to make a decision
they don't want to make.
I went above and beyond that,
and at some point
you just have to stop.
Why would you not want
to go to trial?
It's funny.
Like, if -- it sounds --
and it sounds stupid because
if you believe in your case,
you believe in your case
and you think it's 100%.
But they literally handicap
these things.
Like, okay, if they want
$100 million, and there's a 10%
chance you lose,
then you should be willing to
give them $10 million.
They handicap it like that.
So was there a 5% chance that I
was gonna lose and get smoked?
I mean, probably.
Um...
So, yeah.
I never would've imagined I
would've settled for that, but
I'm happy that I did.
So basically, what it means
is we won't spend
the month of May here.
So I just got -- I just got
a month of my life back...
for $5 million.
[ Chuckles ]
The first time you
ever doped, how old were you?
[ Clears throat ] Wow.
Straight into that.
[ Chuckles ]
The first time
you ever doped?
Oh, this is a sensitive
topic.
Um...
[ Sighs ]
You're gonna go there,
right from the gun?
[ Chuckles ]
Probably...21.
I had started doping,
not extensively, but I had
started doping by 1996.
So I kind of got introduced
to it from -- indirectly from a
teammate.
I knew it was either like
join the club or go home
and like finish school
and go get a real job.
There's a bunch of ways
to define doping.
The easiest way to define
it is breaking the rules.
Right, so were we getting
injections of vitamins
and other things
like that at an earlier age?
Yes, but they weren't illegal.
So that, you know...
But did you know?
Know what?
What was in those in --
Oh, of course.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on.
I'm not one of those guys.
I was like, "Ooh.
What do we have here?"
I always asked, I always knew
and I always made the decision
on my own.
Nobody said, "Don't ask.
This is what you're getting."
I never, ever would have gone
for that.
I educated myself on what was
being given,
and I chose to do it.
[ Rain falling ]
As a kid in Texas, you start
with all the sports
that everybody starts with --
with football, baseball,
basketball, soccer.
I just wasn't good.
I wasn't coordinated, I'm
not -- I don't have great
hand-eye coordination, I'm not
fast.
My mom said to me, "Why don't
you join the swim team?"
And I was like,
"Well, I don't know how to swim"
and 12 is late
to join the swim team.
I had to swim
with the 6-year-olds.
It was awful.
It was -- It was just -- It was
miserable.
I cannot believe
that I hung in there.
I just didn't quit.
And I never wanted to quit.
I never came home like,
"Mom, this is embarrassing.
I'm swimming with 7-year-olds.
I'm 12."
If I do quit, then I don't
start doing triathlons
and I don't get on a bike.
I caught on quickly,
so I just kept moving up.
It seemed like it was every week
I was moving a lane over,
moving a lane over.
Until eventually I was,
you know --
Well, then eventually
at the age of 14, then I was --
I don't know -- I got like third
at the Texas championships
in the mile.
I think he was 14 years old,
and I met him at the swimming
pool in Plano, Texas.
We were in town for a big pro
race, so we just found this
pool -- it was kind of random --
and there's this little guy.
He jumped in our lane
and was just looking at us
the whole day, and then after
we got done with our workout,
he was just hanging around
and checking us out
and asking questions.
I mean, you couldn't --
he wouldn't be denied.
In the water, it was
unbelievable.
He would just swim away from me.
He was an amazing swimmer.
Not a pretty swimmer -- a lot of
water flying everywhere.
But he was just really strong.
[ Water splashing ]
Did Higgs tell you about this
crazy thing we're doing up
in Seattle there?
September 23rd?
Yeah.
It sounds amazing.
...crazy.
Really? What is it?
I've never done it,
but it's like a swim run.
But you have to swim
with your running shoes,
run with your wet suit.
No!
Like four miles of swimming,
20 miles of running.
Wow.
That's why
we're here right now.
So we'd been training
together almost a year.
The President's Triathlon
at the time was a big event.
A lot of money,
big invitational.
So I knew the promoter,
and I just said, "Hey, I've got
this kid that I'm working with,
and he's 15.
I know that sounds ridiculous,
but I would really like him
to start the pro race."
And this is the first time
I've raced against Lance in a
race where we start together.
I never saw him.
Out of the water way ahead of
me, and then the story is --
of course, I'm not there,
I'm behind, but I'm hearing
all this stuff -- it's like
he gets out of the water
with the front guys.
They were all looking
at me going, "What
is this kid doing here?
Why is he coming
out of the water ahead of me?"
He's like talking to them,
and they're like going, "Go
away!"
And I'm hearing these stories,
and at the end of the day,
like, he ended up leading
this race at one point.
Like, he started -- I think
he started the run out front
by a long ways.
And this is a 15-year-old kid
with the best triathletes
in the world.
And it's so funny because
I believe it was Mark Allen
that won that race.
It was Lance on television.
It was Lance
getting the interviews.
He was the story.
His life was never the same
after that.
I like going out on
the weekends and having fun
with my friends.
And I like girls, too.
[ Chuckles ]
Even from an early age, he
had that very A-type
personality.
It was full throttle
all the time.
If we went to go do something
it was -- he had to just do it
better or crazier.
If we lit one firecracker, he
had to light 100 firecrackers.
It was just that constant --
that constant push at all times.
Four-point range.
Armstrong
for the three-pointer.
That's what made it, I think,
hard for a parent
is at an early age he had
an idea of where he wanted to go
and what he was gonna do,
and there was no stopping that.
When you're competing
on a professional level
with the pros,
you've got competition.
And Lance is a very driven
person, and he loves challenges.
She always believed
I could do anything.
She wasn't a real disciplinarian
either.
I mean, I sort of did
whatever I wanted to do, which
is a miracle I'm not, like, a
mass murderer at this point.
But she was -- and she was
young, I mean, we know that --
everybody knows she was young.
I was this young, young girl
growing up in Texas.
Drill team, homecoming princess
and this and that.
And I'm 16 years old,
and I get pregnant.
Not something your mom
wants to hear about,
but truly this was my salvation.
And I gave birth
to this 9-pound, 12-ounce --
almost 10-pound baby boy.
Came the day he was due
when I was 17 years old.
Golly darn, he was so cute!
If you think about having me
at 17, we really grew up
together.
When I was 5, she was 22.
So, and, you know,
when I was 20, she was 37.
I didn't know anything about
my biological father.
I mean, he -- I knew his name.
His name was Eddie Gunderson.
But if somebody would have said
to me, "Where does he live?"
I would have said,
"I don't know."
And I didn't want to know.
Not in a mean way, but I just --
I wasn't interested.
He chose to leave our lives
and he never tried
to come back into the lives.
The marriage ended quickly.
It was an abusive
relationship, and again,
it was just one of those
situations that for the good
of my son and myself
I needed to move on.
I had a date with Linda.
I picked her up at her
apartment, and we went out to
dinner.
And we came home,
and here was this little boy.
I saw the picture in my mind
of a family ready to go.
I adopted Lance when, I believe,
he was 3 years old.
That's why Lance's last name
is Armstrong, because when you
adopt somebody, they change
the birth certificate.
So my name is on his birth
certificate as the father.
As I was growing up,
she was married twice.
And they were -- You know,
they were okay guys.
I mean, they were --
they were not terrible.
Terry Armstrong might have been
kind of terrible.
I mean, you talk
about disciplinarian --
I mean, if I left --
if he said, "Don't leave your
drawer open or you're gonna
be in trouble," and sure enough
I would leave a drawer open,
and he would pull out his
fraternity paddle and just beat
the...out of me.
It's like, if I did that, I
mean, my kids would be getting
spanked every minute of every
day.
Like, who cares
if the...drawer is open?
I was tough on him as far
as cleaning his room up
and, you know, being orderly.
And Linda was always there
when I -- when I did it.
It wasn't a belt.
There wasn't hitting him.
It was just bend over
and take your licks.
That came from five years
in a military school.
Very regimented.
So I was kind of by-the-book.
The failure of my bringing up
Lance...I was the taskmaster,
but I didn't put my arms around
him enough and tell him I loved
him.
I was always there,
always coaching him,
always pushing him,
but I didn't show him the love
that I should have.
Lance would not be the champion
he is today without me,
'cause I drove him.
I drove him like an animal.
That's the only thing
I feel bad about --
did I make him too much
win-at-all-cost?
They were sort of done
when I was around 15,
which was great and fine
and then it was back to me
and my mom.
I would always think about
changing my name back to --
I guess my biological name.
But I never even began to start
that process, so it couldn't
have been that serious.
And then at some point
it's too late, you know, because
by the age of 15, you know,
I was already establishing
myself and my career and "brand"
or whatever that means,
and so then it was too late.
Plus it's a good name.
I like the name.
Lance Armstrong.
I think that's a good name.
It's better
than Lance Gunderson.
That's kind of a weird name.
A lot of these races in
the Texas or in the Southwest,
you had to be minimum age
to do a triathlon,
you had to be 16.
So we'd forge my birth
certificate.
I understand the reason
for the certain age requirements
because there's
a lot of liabilities,
they were gonna swim
in a lake and this and that.
But it meant so much to him.
Get in, just enter and then
kick their ass.
Like, just win.
So forge the birth certificate,
compete illegally
and beat everybody.
That bully thing that has
come up a lot in the rhetoric
about him over the years,
I mean, I saw that from day one.
Bermuda was the biggest
race in the world.
Ridiculous prize list.
Everybody was flown in.
All the top triathletes
were flown in.
I rented him a scooter.
My credit card.
"This is how you get around.
This will be fun
if you want to go somewhere."
Well, he abused the scooter
pretty bad.
He didn't take care of it.
He didn't bring it back
when he should have.
"Well, man, don't worry about
it.
Just don't worry about it."
Like he's actually saying,
"I can beat you, so there's
nothing more you can do for me."
And then I remember having
a hard time with Linda on that.
It's like, "Okay, Linda, take
him to Bermuda, he's breaking
stuff, he takes no
responsibility for anything and
then he's mouthy and
disrespectful."
And she's like, "Well, you don't
have any authority over him."
I'm like, "You're the one
that sent me there
to be his chaperone."
So I kind of got flicked
at that point, and that stung.
That stung a lot.
I was the hot shot junior,
the poster boy of USA Cycling.
We were at the Olympic training
center, and we started hearing
stories about these two kids
from Plano, Texas, that were
triathletes.
And I hear all these stories
about this one kid
in particular named Lance.
And I'm like, "Okay, how good
could this guy be?"
Of course the coach pairs me
with Lance for a 10-minute,
two-man time trial,
which is basically two guys
swapping off as hard
as you can go five minutes
down the road,
five minutes up the road.
First segment was a tailwind.
So we were going quite fast,
and I wasn't impressed.
I was like, "This is the guy
that they're talking about?"
I was just like,
"Okay, you know,
this was a lot of talk."
But as soon as we turned
around into the headwind,
which is much harder,
he started taking these pulls,
and I was, like,
absolutely on the rivet.
I was faking it
as good as I could,
but when the horn
was sounded from behind
and I'm just relieved
that it's over,
and he starts yelling at me,
"Come on, you...
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
I'm not done yet."
I can barely stay on my bike now
and this kid is basically
just warming up.
And you realize right then
and there -- This kid
is a totally different level.
And I just happened to meet
the strongest cyclist
maybe of all time
when I was 17 years old.
[ Laughs ]
I don't -- I don't --
I don't remember,
but that's entirely possible.
I might have called him a...
but we're buddies now.
But he wasn't -- he wasn't a --
He was a whiner,
but he wasn't a...
I did one of the first races,
bike races, pure bike races
that he ever did.
And we didn't know who he was.
I didn't know
what he looked like.
I didn't even know he was there
at that race.
I'd kind of heard a little bit
about the legend.
Right from the first 10 feet
of the race we were full blast.
I mean, we were going 35 miles
an hour before, you know,
before I'd even warmed up.
As we were in
the first miles of the race
and we were going twice
the speed that we would have
normally at that section of
road -- Bobby
was my buddy back then.
And, you know, I rode up
to Bobby and I'm like, "What is
going on?"
And, you know, he screamed back,
and he was like, "That's Lance!"
And, you know,
and that's sort of in a way
how I was introduced to Lance --
as in that Bobby -- you know,
Bobby said, "That's the guy
you've been hearing about.
That's why we're going so fast."
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[ Engine starts ]
Okeydokey...slowpokey.
Well, I graduated high school
at 17 and then left right away.
And came here or not?
Drove -- Drove --
Loaded up a U-haul and drove
here.
I was just making the transition
then to full-time cycling.
So no more tris, no more
swimming, no more running.
From a very young age,
even on a little BMX bike
I enjoyed the escape
of being on a bike.
I was just gonna give it a go
and see what happened.
I got my first -- I guess 1990
was like my first contract
with a cycling team.
I made $18,000 a year.
$1,500 a month.
My rent was $300.
I was like, "I'm...loaded.
I'm loaded."
I was saving money.
And then I think the next year
I made like $24,000.
$2,000 a month.
Then I got recruited away
to go to Motorola, which was
a big professional team.
And then it was sort of
off to the races.
No pun intended.
When I ride a bike,
I can get in a faraway place,
right, or space.
I would think about my goals
or my competition.
And if it was an intense day,
I'd have to -- In my mind,
I would have to
make up these little rivalries,
even if they didn't exist.
I'd just get my hate on.
But then also think about plans.
I would think about making plans
or what my plan was
in my sport, my future.
Yeah, just sort of daydreaming.
How old were you
when you decided to use
an illegal doping product?
In terms of crossing the line
into something that
if you would have admitted
or could've tested positive
for, then that -- that wouldn't
have been until 21 years old.
My first professional season.
[ Indistinct conversations,
gunshot ]
Well, the gun goes and nobody
is going to be in any particular
hurry here to break away.
They're expecting the best part
of six and a half hours in the
saddle, and if these conditions
do persist, then they are going
to be very miserable indeed.
At that time in the sport,
it was cortisone
or cortisone precursors
or, you know, drugs
that stimulate your body's
own production of cortisone.
Well, the hat has gone
in the pocket.
It's come down to very serious
stuff now by the 21-year-old.
He won't be 22 till the end
of this year.
He's one of the youngest-ever
riders to win a world
championship at the professional
level, and the gap
is there for him now.
It is there for Lance Armstrong,
and surely that's big enough.
Now he's looking back and seeing
nobody as he becomes champion
of the world.
Lance Armstrong, 21 years of
age, is America's second only
world road race champion.
I remember sitting
with people in the stands
and they're like,
"Who is this kid
Lance Armstrong?"
Lance, you can't believe it
what you've done?
I can't believe it.
On the last hill,
I looked at my computer and
said, "Maybe there's still one
lap to go," but...
That really kind of opened
the doors
and changed the next phase
of his cycling career.
He rides the roads of Texas
virtually unnoticed, but
Lance Armstrong went anything
but unnoticed in the cycling
world during 1993.
This outspoken 22-year-old
has not won
any popularity contest,
a fact not lost
on the Motorola rider.
The bottom line
is I'm a competitor
and I still like training hard
and going out and kicking ass.
I like that.
And I got a lot more ass to
kick, so...
I mean, in that sense,
I have to look forward to that.
I have to look forward
to going back to Europe
and doing the big races
and winning.
Look out, world.
Yeah, look out.
I mean, there's a lot of races
I haven't won.
I'm not saying I'm gonna win
every race in the world, but...
You can try.
I can try.
Good luck.
All right, man.
At the time, cycling was
a European sport.
Very European.
Not at all American.
Still not, but more.
I'm from Belgium.
Belgians, they're hard workers,
they're ambitious
to a certain point.
But not overly ambitious.
The Belgians were always
a little bit sneaky,
a little bit clever.
The Spanish
are normally very calm.
The Spaniards tend
to be modest,
humble, very unpretentious.
Italians were, and are, loud,
vain, outrageous showmen.
Then the Germans,
which are very organized
and very, like, structured.
And then you have the French.
Yeah, I have to be very careful
because I am German, but...
the French are slightly
superior.
They think they are a little
bit higher up
than everybody else because
they have the Tour de France.
And then you have the Americans.
I've never, never,
never met more weird people
than American cyclists.
And I think there's
an explanation for that, because
it's not your logical choice.
American popular sports
are basketball, football.
So, typically an American
who chooses cycling
is a guy who doesn't fit in.
So you're a kid
from suburban Dallas
living on the shore of Lake Como
surrounded by Renaissance
Italian palaces and very wealthy
Italian vacationers.
It seems kind of out of step
with where you came from.
Well, I always liked the
water.
[ Laughter ]
No, I got real --
I mean, I -- I have had --
the team is --
most of the team lives in Como.
So we've sort of adjusted there
real nicely.
We race on that continent
90% of the time.
I have to live there.
It was eye opening.
I mean, I went from, you know,
being a kid, everything kind of
taking care of me to, hey,
you've got to move to Europe,
find a place to live,
figure it out.
Try to learn the language.
We had a really cool
American young network
with myself, Lance, Frankie,
Kevin Livingston, Bobby Julich.
That was nice.
We had our own little sort of
American family away from home.
Four of us were living
in a three-bedroom apartment,
so when everyone was there
I was on the couch.
And Lance had
this beautiful house on the lake
that he lived with by himself.
And you know, you're an
American, you're lonely,
you want to hang out with people
and speak your native tongue
and, you know, have fun.
Frankie was one of his
closest friends.
He was the only friend who could
tell Lance no repeatedly, tell
Lance how he was screwing up,
tell Lance how he was getting on
his nerves and he didn't have to
worry about Lance cutting him
off.
Everybody else had to honor
the ground that he walked on.
When I was visiting,
we went out for pizza.
Lance, he was hungry, so
he wanted his food right away.
And so he started saying,
"These f'ing Italians take so
f'ing long to get the food out."
I said, "You're not in America.
This is Italy.
Eating is a little bit different
here.
It's gonna take a while.
They understand
what you're saying."
He said, "I don't care."
I speak a few words
of Italian, but it's rough.
I mean, when you go somewhere
and you just can't get your
point across.
It's very frustrating.
In America, it's the
World Series.
In England, it's the soccer
Cup Final.
In France, it's the
Tour de France.
The emphasis is on endurance
as the world's hardiest
bicyclists travel 3,000 miles.
Mountains, rough roads
and hairpin curves
add to the hardship.
The first Tour de France
was in 1903.
It was born as like a
promotional scheme for
newspapers to get attention in
the summer.
And so the whole thing
was like concocted
as this circus at the boundary
of human performance.
At first the people that
competed at the Tour de France,
they were working in mines
and it was a dirty sport.
It was rough.
It was for people that are used
to working physically very hard.
Cycling was a
working-class sport.
People felt as though they could
really identify with the riders
because the riders were the sons
of farmers and factory workers.
The kind of people that
they would have contact with
on a daily basis.
[ Speaking French ]
[ Speaking Italian ]
The Tour de France is hard
to explain to the average
person.
You need to see it.
You need to breathe it
and live it one time to
understand how nuts it truly is.
It's arguably the world's
most difficult athletic event.
It's 21 days, over 2,500 miles,
on some of the world's
most punishing roads.
It's like running a marathon
every day for three weeks.
The peloton can be a pretty
scary place.
The peloton is essentially
the group of cyclists
that ride a race.
It looks like an amoeba,
but it's traveling at the speed
of a high-speed train.
Riders will be within
a few millimeters of each other
and a few millimeters
of crashing.
A moment's inattention
can bring the whole thing down.
The shoulder -- Oh!
There's a crash!
He's hit a wheel and has gone
down...
When it's game on, it's the
most intense pain and suffering.
Like, I mean, you're at
the absolute maximum and you're
in the best shape of your life.
Everyone is at the absolute
maximum.
And you're going as fast
as everybody can.
And there's gonna be crashes.
Everyone knows there's going
to be crashes.
It creates nervous energy.
Like, it's just like,
"There's gonna be a crash.
Who's gonna be in it?"
There's helicopters.
There's police on motorcycles
trying to get by honking.
There's cars behind you.
Like, it's so many variables
happening at once.
It's traumatic.
[ Chuckles ]
Yeah.
It's such an intensely
dangerous sport.
We're going down hills
in the Alps on roads
that are five feet,
six feet wide
at 60 miles an hour in the rain,
on little tiny bikes
with very skinny wheels
and dressed in essentially
what's the equivalent
of your underwear.
Everyone is willing
to risk their life to win.
If we were seriously
concerned about our health,
then we would find
another sport.
So in that sense,
it's not a valid argument
saying that doping is dangerous
because we are risking our lives
every day anyways.
The whole idea of riding
that far over three weeks
is vaguely ridiculous,
and so to do it
at the highest level, people
have always just sought
additional help to get it done.
There was a period
in the sport
where people started to learn
that you could do things
to enhance your performance.
But this was before it was
considered to be cheating.
And there were no morals
and ethics around this.
They were still figuring it out,
and we forget that now.
And there are periods where
nobody frowned upon
taking external substances
to improve your performance.
It was not considered
to be doping.
It was just ingrained
in the culture of the sport,
you know, up until the time
that I got there from Plano,
Texas, and I was like, "Hmm."
At that time, there
was Russian rider
on this Italian team.
And he was like my age or 23
or so, and I said to him,
"Look, do you think actually
that it's really fair what
we're doing, like ethically?"
And he said, "Look, I'm 23,
I'm living in Italy,
I'm normally from Siberia
and I have two kids.
What should I do?"
Painkillers, cocaine,
amphetamines.
People have taken every
imaginable drug during the Tour
and pushed the limits
of what's ethical
since the sport began.
The real dynamic of the race
changed when Amgen developed
synthetic erythropoietin, EPO.
That drug suddenly
increases your body's ability
to transport oxygen by raising
the red blood cell count.
The rumors of EPO
began in '93.
I mean, that plague began
in the late '80s truly.
People were scared of it.
There was all these ideas
that people were dying from it.
And then I won the world
championships in '93 somehow.
Wore the rainbow jersey
through '94.
I got my ass kicked every day.
All year long.
Wearing the world champion's
jersey.
We had already been dabbling
in low-octane,
you know, whatever it was,
cortisone, whatever was around.
But EPO was a whole
nother level.
The performance benefits were
so great that the sport
went from low-octane doping,
which had always existed, to
this really high-octane
rocket fuel.
And so that was
the decision we had to make.
This Italian team
Gewiss completely dominated.
The Gewiss-Ballan team,
they had some fantastic years
from '93 to '95 and basically
won everything they touched.
People were like,
"Who the...is training
these guys?"
That was Ferrari's coming out.
[ Speaking Italian ]
EPO was like wildfire,
and we still didn't.
We refused.
Nobody on Motorola '94 made
that leap.
All the way through the year,
had no results.
'95, um...it's even crazier.
Like, it's just everywhere.
Lance Armstrong was
the last American to win
a stage in the Tour de France.
That was 1993.
Now here he is trying to get
position on Serguei Outschakov.
The gap is now 35 seconds,
and that is big enough
I would think for these two
to decide this stage
of the Tour de France together.
Armstrong is in
a developmental phase
of his career.
He's only 23.
He admits he's made
some mistakes in this Tour.
He's aware of the pressure
there is on him to excel --
some of it self-imposed.
Lance has him where he
wants him now and he's not going
to come by him again
until he goes for the gears
and gives him just about all the
speed he has left in those legs
after what has been
a tremendously long day
in the saddle
for all of the breakaway.
Outschakov is gonna ride
close to the barriers on the
left so Armstrong must come over
on his right shoulder.
Give him one way.
Armstrong now begins to make his
move.
Outschakov goes immediately
but goes right
to the center of the road.
Armstrong holding the back wheel
of Outschakov.
Very shortly Armstrong
is going to have to kick,
but I don't think he's got it.
Outschakov has everything.
Outschakov takes it on the line.
Armstrong will be very,
very annoyed about that,
but he never had it on the line.
That was terrible.
It's just terrible.
[ Chuckles ]
I mean, I really feel bad.
I can't tell you
how disappointed I am.
I didn't --
I was out there 200 K's,
and every 200 of them,
every one of them, I thought
for sure I was gonna win.
And to get second is...
it's devastating.
I think it's a learning
experience for him here this
year, and we're on our mission
and our objective to finish the
race.
So I don't think that
Lance is doing anything
except right now really taking
in a lot of information
and hoping to be able to use
that next year.
He hated losing
with a passion.
He couldn't if when someone
was better than him.
He couldn't stand
if someone was beating him.
He couldn't stand just not
being part of a winning team
or winning himself.
He should have been
at that point
in time progressing his career,
and instead he was regressing
in his career.
And the anger was -- you could
just feel it coming off of him.
As he called it, I think at the
moment, "There is an EPO
epidemic going on."
He's like, "These...
need to be caught.
You know, these...
need to be taken out."
Eddy Merckx had sent Axel,
his son, to go and see Ferrari,
to be trained by Ferrari.
Eddy Merckx was by general
consensus the greatest cyclist
of all time.
He won the Tour de France
five times,
he won the Giro d'Italia
five times,
he won every race you could win
in professional cycling.
I asked Eddy, I said, "Will
you introduce me to Ferrari?"
So I went there in the winter of
'95 for my first test
and then started working
with him full time in '96.
My relationship with Ferrari
was highly confidential.
As was his relationship
with everybody.
We would dread seeing Ferrari
because the first thing
he would do would be like grab
your stomach like, "Oh, you've
been eating a bit too much."
Or like, the first thing
he would do is measure your fat.
Telling you you're fat
when you, you know,
you're pretty much anorexic
is probably not the best thing
for a 24-year-old kid.
He was direct.
But it worked for me.
Whatever he said, I did.
To the word.
Ferrari was a proponent of less
is more.
Because we would ask, we'd be
like, "Oh, I heard somebody is
doing this, I heard somebody is
doing that.
And should we think about that?"
He's like, "Lance, all you need
is the red cells."
So EPO, which then
became transfusions or bags,
and that's it.
I don't have any personal
experiences with Dr. Ferrari
to point to.
I did have to deal with athletes
that Dr. Ferrari
manipulated values on.
To me, that's a continuation
of people who want to lie,
cheat and steal from others
to gain an advantage trying
to justify what they're doing.
There were clean athletes who
did not get to have experiences
because of their actions,
and I'm one of them.
I had people tell me
when I came over there,
"It's like you've got a choice.
You're gonna do it or you're
not.
And if you're not, have
no expectation of any success
whatsoever, because you won't."
By the start of 1996,
he physically looked
like a different person.
You know, he was much lower
body fat and much --
just looked stronger.
And, you know, he was winning
or placing in every single race
he was entering and was no
longer upset about people
doping.
There's a wild-looking house
up there too.
Man, I haven't seen that.
What is that?
I'm gonna make you very
happy.
We'll grab Grace.
[ Cellphone ringing ]
This is the house that I built
in the mid-'90s.
Started in '94, moved in in '96.
Paid 200,000 bucks for the lot.
Wow.
Construction contract
with pool was about $600,000.
Had it all in for less than a
mil.
I was 24 years old --
24 or 25 years old -- and all my
neighbors were like 70.
They probably thought,
"Wait, who's building that?"
When did you sell it?
In 2000.
Why did you sell it?
Uh, you know, I think it was
only three bedrooms or four
bedrooms, and we had Luke and
then when you guys were coming,
we weren't gonna have room.
Or something.
Sold it for two.
There's room for a couple
of kids in this house.
Yeah, right.
[ Laughs ]
You can go faster.
Okay.
Lance left my house when he
was 17 years old and grew up.
He was out of the country
90% of the time.
When he was home,
that was off-season.
I was running one of the more
popular bars in Austin.
If you wanted to get into my
bar, you had to wait in line.
We had a line
wrapped around the corner.
But if you wanted to get in
without waiting in line,
you needed to know me.
So I knew almost every girl
in town
that wanted to get into my bar.
Lance was not very well known.
I mean, they knew, like, "I
think that's the cyclist guy."
So Lance just thought, "Oh, my
God, this guy knows every girl."
Our day consisted of wake up in
the morning, go for a bike ride,
go have some lunch.
I had a ski boat.
We would go out on the boat.
I'd call a few girls.
They'd come join us in the boat.
We'd ski.
I'd come home,
I'd take a nap for a little bit,
I'd go to work,
Lance would come in the bar,
hang out, I'd introduce him
to a lot of people,
wake up the next day
and just do it all over again.
Every day.
It couldn't get any better.
One day we're out on a bike ride
and he told me about this pain
in his testicle, which was not a
comfortable conversation that
you want to have with your
friend.
Not only big,
but just...hurt.
Like to the touch, to --
if -- if you just --
any -- sitting on the bike.
It just -- And I'm like --
I'm like, "Jesus, is this
what -- I mean, is it because
I'm -- is it because
I sit on a bike all day long?"
Today was supposed to be
Lance Armstrong's day
at the Tour de France.
Instead, the Austinite
has called it quits.
He's feeling so bad, he thinks
he might have bronchitis.
When I came home in September
after the season,
then the symptoms got a little
more serious.
Even then I ignored them.
Until the day
that I started to cough.
Blood everywhere.
And I kept coughing and more
blood, coughing, more blood.
It's just everywhere.
It looked like a crime scene.
And so I called my neighbor.
He's like, "All right.
We're going to the doctor."
However long it takes them
to print out an X-ray, minutes.
He just -- three or four of them
up there and he says, "You have
advanced testicular cancer."
And I mean, it is just -- the
chest, both sides, both lungs --
just littered -- golf balls.
I was like, "Whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa. whoa. Stop.
Time out. Hang on. Are you --
I mean, I know I see this,
but are you sure, like..."
And he said, "I'm so sure,
I've scheduled surgery
for 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning."
And I was like, "Oh...
It was...
It was a long drive home.
He calls me, and my knees
just buckled.
I'm like, "What?"
Like, you don't know what to
say.
And so he's like, "I have to go
into surgery tomorrow morning."
And I'm like, "Well, on what?"
I mean, this just shows you
the ignorance of a 27-year-old
that has never dealt with this.
I'm like, "On what?"
He's like, "They've got to
remove my testicle."
I never knew anybody
who had cancer.
Nobody I knew.
Nobody I worked with had cancer.
Certainly, she never thought
that she would have
to face this
and to face that dilemma of,
"Oh, my God, am I going
to outlive my only son?"
I was praying to God...
[voice breaking] ...it's not
Stage 4.
It'll be 2. It'll be 3.
And then learning
it was Stage 4...
Devastating.
Realistically, what
are his chances?
With what Lance had,
almost none.
We told Lance initially 20%
to 50% chance, mainly to give
him hope.
But with the kind of cancer
he had, with the lung X-rays,
the blood tests, almost no hope.
You know, cancer was what you
got when you smoked cigarettes
or when you led a poor lifestyle
or, you know, had asbestos in
your house, or --
I was like, wait a minute,
I'm one of the fittest people
in the world.
Why?
On Wednesday, October 2nd,
I was diagnosed
with testicular cancer.
On Thursday,
October 3rd, I underwent surgery
at St. David's Hospital
here in Austin to have
the malignant testicle removed,
and the surgery was successful.
In terms of degrees of the
disease, my condition is
considered to be between
moderate and advanced,
and thus yesterday I began
my first day of chemotherapy
treatment.
I will undergo chemotherapy
for at least 12 weeks,
and then depending on
how I respond to the treatment,
may have to undergo
more chemotherapy
and other procedures
to fight this disease.
We found out that it had
metastasized to his brain.
He looked sick.
They shaved his head
to do the surgery, and that was,
you know, that was the period
where you thought, yeah,
he might not make it.
You kind of thought, hey,
you know, survival is success.
Survival with
your faculties intact.
Survival and the ability
to have a job.
I mean, survival and be
a bike racer was, you know,
almost too good to consider.
First he had a testicle removed.
Then he had brain surgery.
Then he had chemotherapy
for his lymph nodes and lungs
and, you know, his whole body.
Laying in the hospital bed
and puking your brains out, not
knowing if you were gonna
live or die...
It was a competition to me.
Right, so you had cancer as
the -- as the enemy,
and you had me as the good guy.
And all of the things that we
monitor, tumor markers, chest
X-rays, those were all stats
and things on the scoreboard.
The tumor marker
was the scoreboard.
It was a game to me.
But it was a game
of life and death.
Armstrong's toughness
recently paid off
in some holiday cheer.
His blood levels are now normal,
the spots on his lungs reduced.
This is the very, very best
Christmas that I have ever had
in my whole life, bar none --
that he will be cured
and that we'll be blessed
with his health from now on.
Until you're five years clear
from a cancer treatment, you're
always worried about relapse.
And, you know, it was in the
back of everybody's mind,
this moment may not last.
Do you think you got cancer
because of the doping?
You know, I [sighs] I don't
know the answer to that.
And I don't want to say no
because I don't think that's
right either.
I don't know if it's yes or no.
But I certainly wouldn't say no.
The only thing I will tell you
is the only time in my life
that I ever did growth hormone
was the 1996 season.
And so just in my head
I'm like, "Growth, like
growing, hormones and cells --"
Like if anything good needs
to be grown, it does.
But wouldn't it make also sense
that if anything bad
is there that it too would grow?
So, how did you come up
with the idea for
the Lance Armstrong Foundation?
When I was diagnosed, I think
that I looked at my situation
and you had a disease
that young men didn't want
to talk about, which they still
don't want to talk about.
And I don't blame them.
You know, almost immediately,
within a month or two, I
thought, "Let's do something
here.
Let's try to help."
There's no awareness about it.
I didn't know a testicle bigger
than another is a problem.
And that's why when I win this
battle, everybody's gonna know.
And it starts today.
He came to me and to Bart
and a few other people
and wanted to do something.
We had very modest
expectations or ambitions.
We were -- We were gonna have
an annual bike ride in Austin,
try to raise some money,
find somebody to give the money
to and that's it.
We chose a ride that I had
always run as a non-competitive
kind of training race in Austin.
We did the first Ride for the
Roses, I guess that would have
been the February of '97.
It was a major success.
They had like 5,000 riders.
People were on bikes
that they had just dusted
out of their garage.
I mean, just squeaking
down the road.
And you've got to remember,
in Austin, Texas, people kind of
knew who he was but didn't
really know who he was.
They're not out there just to
"I'm gonna ride my bike and
get in shape and everything."
Like, no, they're there
because this is my cause.
To raise money for testicular
cancer awareness.
And for Lance.
It's a great cause.
It was an amazing time.
And you start to learn
about this cancer community.
And we were just going
to donate the money
to the American Cancer Society.
They came, and we met with them.
And we started asking questions.
And all their answers,
boy, it was just not
the answers that we wanted.
They weren't addressing
awareness, patient navigation,
all these things
that would just help a person
navigate the cancer world.
We realized at that time
we needed to do more.
This idea of cancer survivorship
really came home,
and so we started to build
the idea of the foundation
around this idea
of how do we help people
with cancer right now?
We started heading down
the road of doing our own
foundation.
Everyone had the passion,
the purpose,
and that's how great companies,
how great not-for-profits
get started.
And that's how Livestrong
eventually developed.
Oh, wow, there's a...
[ Indistinct talking on radio ]
Byrnesy, quit talking. Let's go.
Is it bad that Anna has her
seat belt on and I don't?
How do you not put
a seat belt on, dude?
What?
You don't have to have it on in
the back seat.
Of course you do.
No, you don't.
It's not a law.
You don't have to have
a seat belt on.
Yes, you do!
No, you don't.
There's not a law
in the back seat
you can have your seat belt off.
It's just if you have a seat
belt, you have to put it on.
If you're on a bus
and you have a seat belt,
you got to put it on.
If there's a seat belt
available, you got to put it on.
We should really -- We should
go.
We got to go.
We do have to go.
We're gonna -- we --
You got to put
your seat belt on.
It'd be kind of a...
move to be late.
[ Chuckles ]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
[ Camera shutters clicking ]
I think they should --
speaking of PR, I think
we should change the name.
A lot of people throughout
this process were like,
"Take him off the ticket.
We don't want him."
But at the end of the day,
someone has to do
what they think is right,
and I think it's right
to give an award to somebody
who has done a lot of good.
Lance Armstrong
is one of the best dudes
I've ever met in my life.
And to see him tonight,
to be able to sit here
and present the Inspiration
Award Babes for Boobs,
to this dude,
I couldn't be any more honored.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Lance Armstrong.
[ Cheers and applause ]
Okay. All right.
Uh, I just want to say one thing
real quick because it's
really -- it is the reason that
breast cancer has become such,
for lack of a better word,
such a successful story.
Because you women
had the courage
and the brains to mobilize
and tell your story
and to ask people to help
and to, you know,
have Washington, D.C.,
get off their ass.
So here's to the women
in the room,
and thank you very much.
[ Cheers and applause ]
[ Laughs ]
[ Indistinct conversations ]
Hey, bro, I think you could
have walked right out the front
and no one would give a...
I mean, at this point
though, isn't the back alley
thing where we've got to walk
by nine dumpsters to get out
of a place a little tired?
Nobody cares.
They either love or hate him.
Take it easy, all right?
Yeah, you too,
thank you very much.
The last five years has really
caused me to, you know, pause
and try to understand not just
myself, but what this story
meant to other people, what this
story meant to the world, right?
And, you know, that's
a heavy thing to think about.
I never knew this story
was as big as it was.
I just -- I knew it was big,
but I didn't know it was --
I didn't know it was that big.
If I was competing today,
I could tell you
who my peers would be, right?
My peers would be
Michael Phelps, LeBron James,
and so I can -- I see where they
are.
And so only now do I realize,
"Okay, that's where you were."
That's where I was.
I really don't miss that.
And I think if I'd have stayed
there, it wouldn't have been
good for my family.
[ Man speaking French ]
[ Applause ]
Motorola lost its sponsorship
in '96.
So that was the last year
of Motorola.
So we were all kind of
just left on our own
to find our own teams.
We had wound up all signing
for team Cofidis, which
is a brand-new French team.
I feel good, I feel strong
standing here, but I still
have a ways to go on the bike.
Lance showed up
at our training camp.
Seeing the other French riders
almost be scared to touch him
or shake his hand,
it was crazy to see him in
that condition where he wasn't
that magnet in the room,
that he was frail,
that he was fragile.
Doesn't have any eyebrows.
Doesn't have any,
you know, hair.
That definitely felt like it
was just a matter of time
before they found a way
to get him out of his contract.
We were at Interbike
together, and that's the big
bike convention.
It's held in Las Vegas
every year.
Lance and Bill could meet with
maybe some of these teams,
and he was getting the stiff arm
from all of them.
And he's like, "Man,
they're just screwing me or
they don't respect me anymore."
We called every team,
and it was either...
or a short conversation.
Part of me was like,
"Well, dude, what do you want?
You wanted them to pay you
$500,000 or $1 million a year
and you haven't done anything.
Let alone you had cancer."
I thought that I'd have a
home, I'd have a team,
I'd have a place,
and there was nothing.
It just didn't seem possible
that he was going to be able
to come back
to the highest level of sport
after cancer.
Only one team wanted me.
Good morning, everyone.
We're very excited about the
news that we're about to
announce.
The Postal Service
is very proud to deliver
this great American athlete
back to the sport of cycling.
It's not like the deliveries
that we normally make.
[ Laughter ]
Lance, on behalf of
the 750,000 men and women
of the US Postal Service,
we're proud to welcome you
to our team.
It wasn't my first choice,
but it was the only choice I
had.
Just one year -- just over
a year ago on October 9, 1996, I
sat before you and shared the
devastating news of my diagnosis
with testicular cancer.
This past year has truly been...
Thom Weisel, who at that time
owned the Postal Service team,
was like, "I want you, Lance,
but we're only gonna pay you
this much."
Which was kind of a little bit
of a slap in the face.
And Lance was like, "Man,
that's just -- That's a joke."
So Bill came up with an idea,
I think, I wasn't there for
this part of the negotiation,
but I do remember
it was tied to UCI points.
UCI is the organization
that runs cycling.
The more points that you have,
the more value you have as a
rider -- just as in football,
the more rushing yards that you
have or more passing yards
that you have, your value's
going to go up.
They said, "Okay,
for every UCI point Lance gets
he'll get $1,000 bonus."
So they took the deal.
He goes and does his first race.
He doesn't do
what he's known to do.
He got dropped in the race
in Pyr?n?es, and he just said,
"I'm out."
He went home.
Like, he didn't know what he was
gonna do.
And I remember we were in France
somewhere and he was just like,
"I can't do this anymore."
That was like the one
of the very few times in my life
or my experience with Lance
where I saw him
where he wasn't sure of himself.
I came back and thought,
"Oh, my God, like, I raced
probably for years
with metastatic cancer
in the lungs, in the abdomen,
in the brain.
Like, it's all gone now.
Like, I'm ready."
And it -- And I got my -- I went
over and got my ass kicked.
There was a lot
of expectations
he would do well here,
but instead mentally
he was broken.
He left for America.
[ Sea gulls calling ]
How did you meet Lance?
I met Lance last year
at the Ride for the Roses.
I was working for an advertising
and public-relations firm,
and we got to be friends.
Both of us were dating
other people at the time
but just sort of clicked.
We were in love and we wanted
to be married and start a
family, and she was a great
supporter of mine as a guy who
was being sort of reentered into
society.
In Santa Barbara,
we all went out to dinner
and she seemed
very sophisticated.
Almost, you know, soft-spoken,
demure, but Lance liked her
because she called him out.
Kind of like
the way Frankie did.
So that's what he really liked
about her.
After dinner he took me aside,
we were walking to the car
and he said, "Bets, come here."
And I said, "What?"
And he said, "What do you
think?"
And I said, "She seems nice.
I don't know why
she's with you."
[ Chuckles ]
I'm easy to get along
with, though.
No, I'm just kidding.
It depends on who you ask.
I am not always
the most level-headed person.
I'm pretty volatile.
She's pretty steady
and I certainly know
I need that in my life.
I need that steadying force,
and before I never had that.
I think for him he was
in this state of mind of,
"Okay, I've been through this
hell physically and...
I want all these things in my
life."
I think that's just natural.
That people that have been
on their death bed
when they come back,
if they don't already have that,
they want it, and they want it
quickly.
After you faced death,
was it hard to take EPO?
Um...you mean the decision?
Because it took --
we did EPO before
and then obviously did it after.
No.
[ Chuckles ]
No.
No.
Because?
Jesus. Sorry.
Um...
In many ways -- and this is not,
you know, this is not going
to be a popular answer,
but in many ways,
EPO is a safe drug.
And, you know,
assuming certain things.
Assuming taken properly,
assuming taken
under the guidance
of a medical professional,
taken in, you know,
conservative amounts.
There are far worse things
you can put in your body.
Do you ever see yourself
doing the Tour again?
[ Sighs ]
I mean, it's such
a long way off, but, I mean...
Yeah, that's --
Uh...
That's a tough one to answer.
My gut tells me, no, never
again.
That's my first instinct.
Yeah.
It's such a hard event,
and I don't know
what's gonna happen with me
and cycling in 1999.
This year it certainly won't
happen.
An investigation into the use
of banned substances
at this year's Tour de France
has led to the expulsion
of the top-rated Festina team.
The team manager admitted
that some of his riders had been
using performance-enhancing
drugs under medical supervision.
The world's most grueling
sporting event all
but collapsed today under
the weight of a drug scandal
that has threatened the very
future of the Tour de France.
[ Woman speaking French ]
All of us were a little bit
shocked that, you know,
law enforcement would come in
on this.
This isn't just a sporting issue
anymore.
Now this is a legal, you know,
penal issue.
Festina showed that a team
was actually --
you could near enough say
on an industrial basis --
utilizing doping products.
These guys were going
to jail.
They were getting, you know,
the old French strip search,
body cavity search
sort of things.
Luckily, I didn't speak
very good French at that time.
[ Man speaking French ]
We would just go into our room,
lock the door, watch MTV,
and wake up in the morning
ready to go again, all motivated
and looking forward to the day.
And then we'd get
to the breakfast table
and all of our French teammates
would have like bags
under their eyes, bloodshot eyes
because they were up listening
to everything on the news.
People are either arrested,
they drop out of the race,
they disappear in the night.
ONCE disappeared.
They just put everybody
on the bus and took off.
Carnage.
It was utter carnage.
People were getting rid of drugs
like they were going out
of fashion -- which I guess
they were, at that race, anyway.
Up till that moment
when that happened,
it was like the Wild West.
Everything very open.
White lunch bags getting
passed out like this.
[ Speaking French ]
Doctors were petrified.
And actually I quite enjoyed
seeing the doctors scared,
because I'd always had a problem
with the doctors.
Because I thought you're meant
to look after people's health,
and kind
of providing performance
enhancing drugs isn't looking
after someone's health, is it?
It was seen that there was
a need for an objective
third party to enforce the
anti-doping rules of a sport.
It was that scandal which led
to the creation of WADA.
The problem at that time
was that the athletes
were ahead of the system.
And it took several years
for WADA to catch up
with exactly what products
the athletes were using
and to create tests for those.
The effects of this Tour --
not over at this point.
Phil Liggett, you've seen 26 of
these.
You've been a part of that
for all these years.
You told me it's the most
amazing race you've ever seen.
What about the Tour de France
in the future?
What kind of an effect
will the controversy have?
The important thing
is the sport of cycling
has been hit very hard.
It must take a real hard
look at itself.
We want the cheats out,
and the only way to achieve that
is to have better dope controls
and to give much
stiffer penalties for those
who are guilty of cheating.
Lance didn't ride
the Tour in 1998.
He had kind of a stop-and-start
season.
I grew really frustrated.
Basically quit.
My wife at the time, Kristin,
and a group of friends
were like, "Look, you can't --
you can't quit like this.
You have to finish the season.
Just go finish the season.
Just ride it out,
and then you can retire."
So when I came back
in the late summer and fall,
I made a deal with myself.
I said, "The only promise I have
is that I will finish
every race that I start.
I won't quit a race."
And I started winning.
Everything.
I won the Tour of Luxembourg.
I won a big race in Germany.
Fourth in the Tour of Spain.
So that's the first time
that I had proven myself
in a three-week race.
And that was a surprise
to everybody.
Surprise to me.
I convinced in the fall,
I convinced Johan Bruyneel
to come on and be
the new director of this team.
You have the Tour de France,
Tour of Italy, Tour of Spain.
There's three races
that are three weeks long.
Anybody who gets a good result,
top five or podium
in one of those big races
has the potential
to be in the front.
I'm not talking about winning,
but in the front
at the Tour de France.
This realization that "Oh,
my God, I'm gonna get
another shot at this --"
another shot at life,
another shot at sport,
another shot at glory,
another shot at money,
another shot at fame.
All these other shots.
Johan said, "You're going
to look really good
standing on the podium at
the Tour de France next year."
That moment cemented
their relationship
because Lance was still
in a very defiant mode
at that point about his illness.
That, you know,
"I'm gonna come back
and I'm gonna show you all."
I held on to a lot
of bitterness about --
If you have 20 teams in the Tour
those other 19...them.
And I was gonna get them.
With the beauty and the
tradition as classic as
the French countryside itself,
the curtain now comes up
on the 1999 Tour de France.
Lance Armstrong now completing
a miraculous recovery
from testicular cancer.
Since 1903, the only thing
that has ever canceled the
Tour de France has been
world war.
Not even last year's
drug scandal could do that.
But when you look at the numbers
and the overview of the course,
this may be
an attempt by Tour organizers
to create an easier race
so that cyclists don't have to
use performance-enhancing drugs.
The challenge the first year
was find or have nine guys
that were actually capable
of riding the Tour de France.
First year was Lance, George,
Kevin Livingston,
Hamilton, Frankie Andreu,
we had a French guy --
Pascal Deram?,
Danish guy, Peter Meinert,
Christian Vande Velde,
who was a young rider,
and then Jonathan Vaughters.
Nine guys.
One is a protected leader for
the team.
Everybody else essentially is --
they use the French term
"domestique," which means
you're in service of the leader.
So we're going into the '99
Tour of redemption.
Everybody's thinking, "Okay.
Well, we had our worst
experience and everything's
gonna be clean now."
And obviously, you know,
I thought so too.
I didn't think
it could get worse.
The drug that was the most
beneficial for cyclists, EPO --
That drug was still
undetectable.
So people could take it
and not get caught.
The performance-enhancing
benefit can be 10%.
Now, consider that the
difference between the first-
place rider and the last-place
rider in the Tour de France
generally is about two hours,
okay, and that's
for a 100-hour race.
So from first to last is 2%,
and the difference of EPO
is 10%.
Now, it's more complicated
than that, of course.
But that gives you a lens
into how much of a difference
this particular drug made.
You had the tremendous
performance benefit,
and you had the fact that nobody
was scared to take it.
If you want to win
the yellow jersey in Paris,
you've got stay up near
the front throughout the race.
And you do that
by doing well in time trials.
And this is the prologue
time trial.
As he was coming back
and getting ready for the Tour
there was one company
that we had talked to,
Bristol-Myers Squibb.
They made all three
of the chemotherapy drugs
that Lance used
to save his life.
It seems like the most obvious
sort of commercial partnership
you could come up with, right?
I spent a year with this company
trying to convince them
and never was able to do it.
He is aiming at 8:09.
He's certainly ahead
of Chris Boardman at this point!
My goodness me! 802.51.
Lance Armstrong with that
performance, Paul, I think may
have done enough.
Look at the face
on Armstrong there.
He's come here on a mission
and today, Phil, he's done
the best prologue time
trial of his life.
Lance wins the prologue,
and my phone rings
and it's John Kouten
from Bristol-Myers Squibb.
He said, "This is the most
embarrassing phone call
I've ever had to make.
We're ready to do a deal."
I didn't expect Lance
to win the prologue.
All of a sudden you go
from like, okay, maybe I can
try to get in the breakaway
or try to win a stage to like...
we've got to, like, protect
the overall lead here."
We were not prepared at all.
It just happened to us
and we were living it
from day to day,
you know, "Okay, another day.
Okay, we survived another day."
In cycling and in general,
I think you'll realize
that most of the guys,
it's such a hard sport
that most people are
just not too big of egos
that are involved just because
one day you're doing great, the
next day you're on the ground.
So I think it keeps
everyone quite humble.
What about Lance?
Lance?
[ Laughs ]
That's good.
Then you have Lance.
Armstrong has won three time
trials this year, two of them
prologues, one on the open road.
I bet he'd trade all three
for the win right now.
This is traditionally one
of the most significant days
of any Tour de France.
Whoever wins today immediately
becomes the odds-on favorite
to win the Tour
and subsequently establishes
the tactics that must be used
by the rest of the field
as we go into the mountains
in the final two weeks.
This is it.
Lance Armstrong has got the
world time trial champion in his
sights, and he's going in.
This is unbelievable.
You could have got
any odds on this happening
and they would have been long.
And he's gonna catch him.
In 1999, I was
It was hosted out of my buddy's
garage in Tampa Bay,
Florida, on a 286 computer.
I got this call.
My friend says, "You have
crashed every server that I
have," because Americans were
starting to clamor for
information about how well Lance
was doing.
We had the opportunity
to take this to the masses
in a way that had never
really been done before, and the
masses cared.
[ Cheers and applause ]
Despite the fans' continued
support this has been
a Tour of Suspicion following
last year's Tour of Shame.
The French media in particular
have speculated that a man
who has been so ill
could only win one of the most
grueling events in sport
with the help of illegal drugs.
A lot of the journalists
who were skeptical about Lance
were skeptical in the first week
of the Tour de France.
And then as Lance
kind of cemented his position
in the yellow jersey,
they found themselves
being more challenged.
The guy's been through so
much.
He deserves this more than
anybody.
He's gonna do it,
and it's for him.
This is his Tour de France.
Tour de Lance!
You can get terrible cancer,
you can recover,
you can come back,
and you can be better
than you ever were before.
People love that story.
But if you were prepared to look
at it with any degree of
honesty, you would say,
"Hold on."
The race would be slower
because they would be using
far less drugs, so the speeds
would drop.
And '99 was the fastest Tour in
history.
Hein Verbruggen and
Pat McQuaid looked the other way
when it was pretty obvious
that Armstrong had been doping.
There were media complaints
that Lance was -- he was a
favored rider of Hein's.
He was helping the sport
become a global sport.
And so Hein at that time would
have thought that Lance was,
you know, a great star and that
he was good for the sport.
If the question is, "How much
did you have Hein Verbruggen
in your pocket?" there's a lot
of different ways to answer
that.
Financially, zero.
Did Hein --
And he's no longer with us
to answer this question himself,
but do I believe that Hein
wanted to protect the sport?
Yes.
Protect me?
Yes, because that protects the
sport.
He was coming off the heels of
Festina.
The world is following this
story of this cancer survivor,
and then bam --
the headline "Cortisone
found in his urine sample."
A number of publications,
including a leading French
sports journal, have insinuated
that Armstrong is on
performance-enhancing drugs,
that a cancer
survivor could not possibly be
strong enough to lead the
world's toughest bicycle race.
There was a sample that came
back that had traces of
a particular type of cortisone,
which I had taken
intramuscularly.
That type of cortisone
was available
a lot of different ways.
You could inject it,
you could have eye drops,
you could have a nasal spray
or you could have a cream.
He's using the cream for saddle
sores.
And so Hein just...
It's like, "That's it.
In one of the controls, there
was in fact some minute traces
of cortisone that was due to the
fact I was using a skin cream.
If it was another cortisone that
was only available through an
injection, I'm...
A year ago today, the Tour de
France, very honestly, was
almost dead.
Scandal surrounding the use of
performance-enhancing drugs
had just about killed this bike
race and ruined the reputation
of the sport.
Ironically, it took
an American, Lance Armstrong,
who had faced death himself, to
breathe life back into cycling
and almost single-handedly
save the Tour de France.
Absolutely right.
If you believe in miracles,
if you believe in fairy tales,
if you believe in life,
then you believe
in Lance Armstrong.
I remember sitting with him,
and Friday
was the final time trial.
Saturday was an easy stage
and then Sunday's
the ride into Paris.
And I remember sitting with him
going, "Hey, man, I wouldn't try
too hard on this time trial.
Like, it doesn't matter.
You've won the thing."
And he looked at me like,
"You are...crazy.
You do not understand anything.
I am the yellow jersey,
and I will win this time trial."
What if he falls over and, like,
something bad happens?
Like, we're going to do
"Letterman" next week.
As he comes up to the line,
it's 16 seconds -- 15, 14.
It is getting desperately
close here.
Zulle versus Armstrong,
and Zulle loses.
Armstrong is the winner
of the time trial -- 01:08:17.
Armstrong takes an almost
unassailable lead of 7:37 into
tomorrow's final stage, which
finishes on the Champs-Elys?es
in Paris.
The specialist climbers
and sprinters have tried
to upstage him along the way,
but Armstrong proved too good
for all of them.
Thousands flocking to see
the yellow jersey's procession
towards the finish line.
The overall winner
of the Tour de France
is the American Lance Armstrong.
And he has been without doubt
the finest rider in this race.
Armstrong says he's living
proof that if life gives you
a second chance, you take it
and make it better
than the first.
I didn't understand
that this story
was going into the hearts
and minds of Americans
and embedding itself
in American sports history.
Congratulations, friend,
on behalf of all of us
in Texas and America.
We're so proud of you.
How are you feeling?
Oh, I'm wasted.
I bet you are wasted.
Tonight, Austin will make
sure he feels welcome.
Thousands of people came
on bicycles and pedaled down
Congress Avenue in Austin,
Texas, to pay tribute to the
most famous bicyclist in the
world.
[ Crowd cheering ]
An outpouring made
all the more special, he said,
because three years ago
when tumors had spread
to his lungs and brain
Austin residents
never gave up on him.
If you're looking
for a personal hero,
if you're looking for somebody
by whom to be inspired, you
could certainly do a lot worse
than this next guy.
Please welcome a champion
and a hero, Lance Armstrong.
When he won after coming back
from cancer, that put him
on a whole different level.
It transcended the sport.
It was about something entirely
different from that day on.