Vigilante: The Incredible True Story of Curtis Sliwa and the Guardian Angels (2017) - full transcript
The incredible story of a man, a mission, and an organization that transcended race and gender to save New York City from a pit of despair in the late 1970's and 1980's.
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(funky music)
(police sirens in distance)
(dramatic jazzy music)
- It was a normal night,
I had my three hours
and then all of a sudden
woke up in a cold sweat
because I'm always
fearful I'm gonna be late.
And I was doing the morning radio show
at the most powerful radio
station in the nation.
So, I'm out of the house,
immediately I'm running up
to the all-night news stand
in the Lower East Side
which was part of the
Alphabet Jungle back then,
avenues A, B, C, D, I'm
able to hail a yellow cab.
And the yellow cab comes right to me.
And when I jump in the
back of the car and I say,
"Hey, Mack, Madison Square
Garden, I'm running late."
And he said, "Hey, no problem, Curtis."
It's like I hit Powerball, the Lotto, whoa.
Remember this is 1992, most cab drivers,
they were tending goats
outside of Amman, Jordan,
just three days before,
they didn't have a hack
license, they didn't
know their way around,
they didn't even know how to drive a car.
Yet somehow, they were in a yellow cab.
This guy, a white guy, a guy
who spoke English, a guy who
knew me, now I could max and
relax, read the sports pages,
I was in Seventh Heaven,
this was Nirvana for me.
And then at about 13th
Street, instead of going left
to the West Side, where
Madison Square Garden is,
he turns right and he goes
east towards the East River.
And I said, "Hey, Mack,
turn this hack around."
And now he really bares
down, and all of a sudden,
I hear strange ruffling from the front
of the car near the passenger side.
And unbeknownst to me, a guy
had been stuck underneath
the dashboard, awaiting his opportunity.
And he comes up with a
.38, he's wearing a mask,
an Irish walking cap, and
he has his ass, his tuchus,
on the back of the dashboard,
and all of a sudden,
he's aiming that .38 at my
three-piece set, and I'm not
talking about the knife,
the spoon, and the fork.
I'm gonna dive and try
to open up the door,
unbeknownst to me, they
had taken this stolen cab
to a chop shop and they had
turned it into a rolling coffin
'cause they knew I would fight back.
And they sawed off the
handles, and put 'em back on
with crazy glue, so what
happens when I grab the handle
to open up the door to
dive into incoming traffic?
The handle comes into my hand and pop!
And I see how the gun goes
back, and then all of sudden
the flames are coming right
out of the barrel of the gun.
And it's heading towards my
lower extremity, and clearly
I had been hit but I don't
feel jack diddly squat.
I had never been shot
before, shot at, yeah.
But never shot before,
and I'm assuming, wow,
I'm gonna be gripped in
pain, I'm gonna be bleeding.
But there's nothing, and
then all of a sudden,
he raises the gun and he shoots it again.
And I see the fire coming
out of the barrel of the gun.
But this time, I feel pain,
incredible pain, cramping.
The most incredible cramping
I had ever had in my life.
I can't even breathe now,
now, I had been shot twice.
So I'm bleeding like a
sieve, and the gunman
had hollow-point bullets so
when upon impact they hit me,
they started shredding everything inside
before they tried to make
their way out my back.
I used the seat behind me as a trampoline,
and I dive in the
direction of what I think
is an open window, the
gunman has now put the .38
in my back and clicked off his final shot.
And upon doing that,
pushes me out the window.
And the assumption is,
I think from the driver
and the gunman is he's dead on arrival.
There's no way he's gonna survive that.
Well, guess what, John Gotti
Junior, let me ask you this.
If you're such a man's man, alright,
you see all this damage, you see all this?
These are the bullets that
Iannotti put into me based
on your orders, from Gambino headquarters.
And he took the Code of
Omerta to protect you.
He's doing 20 years and you're
out of your ponderosa there
in Oyster Bay, Long
Island, pleading poverty
like you can't live that
you were used to living
when you were the number
one capo di tutti (boss of all bosses)
in organized crime, in
the shadow of your father,
the man who called on
me to get hit by you,
John Gotti Senior, you're all a disgrazia.
(uptempo alt-rock music)
Oh, the ugly '70s, it turned New York City
into like, the armpit of
the cesspool of crime.
I gotta tell ya, it was
an era of Uzi toting,
dope sucking, psychopathic
killing machines
laying siege to the outer
boroughs and Manhattan itself.
Various street gangs with
cut-off knee jackets,
rockets and patches, trying
to imitate the Hell's Angels
except they had no Harley Davidsons
But they were an enemy
and a menace to society.
And they were on the trains
and the trains themselves
were scarred with graffiti,
you couldn't look out
of the train windows to
even know what train station
it was coming to, with
the smell of defecation
and urine everywhere, it was
an attack on your senses.
And even if nothing
happened to you on your trip
on the subway, you just felt so violated.
- [Reporter] The
graffiti-scarred subway system,
deafening sounds, frequent
equipment failures,
three million people
jammed together each day,
riding through 230 miles
of what often can be
a subterranean nightmare, a
haven for crime and violence.
- Hey, do you have any money?
- I'm not your street pawn,
I'm not your street pawn.
- Yeah, she want
no beef right now.
- And then let's say
you were going to the Deuce, 42nd Street.
You would go right on
this great white wave,
Broadway, and you would
see theater after theater
that had no shows on it's promenade.
You go down Restaurant Row and
restaurants were being closed
because of the cretins
with chromosome damage,
and so many miscreants who were
just snatchin' pocket books,
who were pickpocketing and jostling.
Then you had these greasy-haired pimps
that looked like Super
Fly, TNT, out of those
black exploitation movies in the '70s.
And then they had their
men, women, I don't know
if they were frozen
vegetables, who were walkin' up
and down, they would sell ya their butt,
they would sell you anything you wanted
and take you 'round the
world in 80 seconds.
And naturally, like
vendors selling popcorn,
drug dealers everywhere,
so the feeling was
that when you're finished
walking through Times Square,
you needed to take like, a hot shower.
Now, some people would
get a vicarious thrill
out of that but most people
would be paralyzed by fear.
And all of a sudden, you
were living a life of fear.
You're a grown man, 6 foot
2, 220 pounds, all buff,
and some little cretin
could come up to you
who's like 4 foot 8, 80 pounds
soaking wet, and grimace,
and have a frown on their
face, and you would give 'em
all your money because you
would be afraid that they would
take your life.
$5, give ya three flicks, the
brothers would be in there
talking trash at the
screen, they'd be pullin'
their tooties out, sometimes
shooting at the screen.
And that behavior would go
right out into the streets.
It was just a seething
cesspool of crime, drugs,
prostitution, decadence, and debauchery.
This is the era of the '70s
that bled into the crack era
of the 80s, and had New York
City in the grip of decadence,
of debauchery, of
hopelessness and despair.
People who had money,
they packed their bags
and they left, people who
were living on fixed income,
like in the Bronx where I
started the Guardian Angels,
all they did was put
more bars on the windows,
more locks on the doors,
and that's the New York City
that spawned yours truly, Curtis Sliwa.
You know, in the 1960s,
all roads led to Canarsie
or through Canarsie out to Long Island,
that's one up the county,
because it was the last refuge
in the city for white ethnics.
Jews escaping Brownsville,
the public housing projects
and tenements, and Italians
from nearby East New York,
they stopped off in
Canarsie, but it was like two
totally different worlds; the
very best, the very worst.
Oh, I remember that day I
broke my mother's heart,
Francesca, I was going to
junior high school at the time,
Bildersee Junior High
School, my grades were good.
But then all of sudden,
I started chasin' skirts.
I was interested in trim,
you know, a shot of lake.
And my grades plummeted, all
you had to do was throw on
some cheap Chanel Number 5,
some toilet water, and have
a nice pear figure, and all
of sudden I went mishegoss.
And my mother said to me, "Curtis, Curtis,
what is wrong with you, you used to sleep
with your baseball glove,
now you're talking about
sleeping with girls,
we gotta get you into
an all-boys school, you gotta
go back to Catholic school."
I said, "Oi, back to Catholic school."
And it was my dad who came to my rescue.
He left the ship where
he was a merchant seaman
and he said, "Hey, kid,
you got three choices.
Go back to school, that's the easiest.
Pack your bags, and
get the hell outta here,
I never wanna see you again,
or go out and get a job,
and pay $70 a week, room and board."
I had no negotiable skills and I saw an ad
in the New York Daily News,
night managers for McDonald's,
wanting, and I heard my
calling from Ray Kroc,
and I got on that number
two train to Beast,
went for my interview, and
the next thing ya know,
I'm a night manager at Micky D's.
It was a nightmare AM and
a double nightmare PM.
And luckily, I didn't
listen to Marvin Barnes,
the general manager
that I was assigned to,
because he did everything by the book.
Oak Brook, Illinois, you
know, McDonald's University.
They wouldn't even let me go.
- And courtesy
is what makes it all run smoothly.
- Give me a filet o fish.
- Thank you.
- Good afternoon.
- And a chocolate shake.
- May I help you?
- Sure, hi, yeah.
- [Narrator] Courtesy that begins working
for you the minute you great the customer.
You've got the idea.
- Right, coming right up.
- [Narrator] Smile, all the time,
whenever there are customers around.
And even when they're not,
smiles are contagious too.
- I came under the influence of my mentor,
and my (foreign language),
my friend for life, Don Chin,
who was another night manager who said,
"You could either do it the McDonald's way
in the Bronx and six of
our employees will carry
your casket, and be at your burial.
And we'll give ya, I'll
give ya a great eulogy.
Or you can do it the Don Chin way
and survive to live another day."
(jazzy music)
And he told me,
"Lesson number one, you're a white boy,
you're a (foreign language),
you're dead meat up here."
Where it's mostly blacks and Hispanics.
"You're a sucker, you
have, on your forehead,
the word sucker and everyone
is gonna try to Vic you down.
They're gonna try to victimize you
from the time you come into the store,
the time you run your shift,
to the time you gotta make
the drop, the bank depository
drop across the street
in the bank, to the time you gotta leave
to take the train all
the way back to Brooklyn,"
where I was livin' at the time.
So I listened intently, and
then I walked into the area
where they prepare the burgers,
fries, and strawberry shakes
and over the warmers, over
the bin, Don had an array
of pipes, sticks, bats, all
kinds of home-made weapons.
And he said, "Lesson number
two is that you're gonna hire
a crew to cover your back,
I don't care if they burn
burgers on the grill, I
gotta know, when I go over
the counter to deal with
the problem in the lobby
that my crew is in solidarity."
It's us and we not I and
me, and that stuck with me.
And so time and time
again, I'd have to go over
the counter, brothers would come up to me,
and they pull the old classic trick.
They'd buy a Big Mac and eat
seven-eighths of the Big Mac,
come back up front say,
"I wanna see the manager."
And I'd come up front, and I'd look
and I'd see most of the Mac was gone.
"Hey, I want either another
Mac or I want my money back."
And I would say to them,
based on Don Chin's training,
"What do you think, 'cause
I'm white, I'm a sucker?
Nah," and they'd say,
"Okay, (stammering angrily)
you're gonna claim that I'm
ripping you off, white boy?
You better come over here and we'll
settle our differences man to man."
And back then, it was one on one.
The crowd would yell,
"One on one, one on one!"
Black and white, that's all you had to do.
And people started pourin'
in, in the streets.
And I can handle myself, and
man, I would pick 'em up,
body slam 'em, and you
would hear the bones
in their ribcage rattle
and all of a sudden,
I had street rep, hey, the
mad Chinaman, Don Chin,
was considered number one, second to none.
But I was earnin' my strikes
and I slowly but surely
got to the point where I
understood what Don meant.
And then Don decided to
give me the ultimate test.
One night, he was off, and
he must've been in a gin mill
banging back a few Irish car bombs.
He loved Jameson, and he
comes in on his Harley,
into the lobby at
McDonald's, and he's wielding
a machete, the wild
Chinaman, and he jumps over
the counter and he comes
back into the grill area.
And he challenges me to a
duel and I remember, as a kid,
I loved Zorro, that was my hero
as a little whipper snapper
growing up, so I grab my
machete and it was like
I was Zorro and he had the best of me.
And at one point, I was
blockin' his machete thrust
and he had me bent over this hot grill.
And lucky for me, he snapped out of it.
And then he started to laugh,
he had this belly laugh
in which I passed the final Don Chin test.
He hopped over the counter,
he got onto his Harley,
and he rode away, and
everyone in that McDonald's,
nobody left, none of my crew
members, they had my back.
And I made my bones,
and I knew from then on,
I could dominate the streets
and the subways of the Bronx.
(dramatic music)
- They have reclaimed
our neighborhood for us.
I can now walk out in my neighborhood
because of these citizens.
- Wouldn't you feel safer?
They're having a gang like
that walking through your
streets, of course you
would, so we do too.
(uptempo music)
- And then one night,
things really, deep six.
The Savage Nomads were
competing with the Savage Skulls
and the Black Spades to
be the number one gang
in all of the Bronx, bum rushed me
in that Micky D's.
- Conquered enemies.
Those are our conquered
enemies right there.
Which one's there or what their names are.
Hit it floor, Joe, relax, relax.
I'm just explaining to them
about enemies, compadre,
cool?
(uptempo music)
Past-tense enemies, what
happened through the past.
- So they come in and they
start pullin' the chairs out.
You know, these are metal
chairs, and they start smashing
the front window panes,
now, we're talking a lot
of moola shmoola, a lot of
duckets, a lot of cheddar there,
that was gonna come out of my pocket.
So I jump over the counter
and I'm catching a beat down
and my crew, at first, hesitated
'cause these guys were
Bad with a capital B.
And then slowly but surely,
I heard 'em jumpin' over,
they were pulling guys
off, they were hitting guys
with the bats, the sticks, and the chains
that we had assembled on the
grill area in preparation
for any kind of all-out assault.
And we fought off the Savage Nomads.
We had created a sanctuary,
we had created a zone
probably the only place
in the Bronx at that time
where you could go at
night, and be unfettered
by any gangbangers, criminals,
miscreants, or thugs,
or thugettes, and I
said, you know something,
I should apply this to the trains.
And that's when I realized,
after watchin' Bronson
in Death Wish, De Niro in Taxi Driver,
I wasn't gonna live vicariously
through these vigilante
movies that were the hits of the '70s.
It was time for me to fight back.
But I couldn't do it by myself.
And the seeds of the subway
patrol that I created
were put into place.
(dramatic music intensifies)
(rock music)
So now I started to think
about a uniformed presence.
Something identifiable,
a red beret, a t-shirt,
something that would equate to people
that this is organized,
there's a regiment,
there's a discipline,
it's not a street gang.
Because that's what the
Bronx was known for.
There were street gangs
in every neighborhood.
Sometimes there'd be two on every block.
And so I went through the preparation.
I brainwashed my closing
crew which consisted of,
lucky for me, blacks, Hispanics, whites,
and yeah, even two Chinese brothers.
And I convinced 'em, come on out!
Ride the trains with me at night.
But slowly but surely, I
was able to convince them
that we could do this, and
everyday they would come back
to renew their shift at like 4 o'clock
or 8 o'clock at night,
and work to closing,
12:00 or 2:00 in the morning,
and suddenly they would
be deflated because everyone
at home would say, hey,
that guy's a white devil, are you crazy?
He's putting nonsense into your head.
You could be shot, killed,
who's gonna care about you?
No, no, no, no, no,
avoid him at all costs.
And yet, I would get back
into their hearts, minds,
and souls, and eventually,
we began to patrol.
But, oh, I couldn't have
been more hopelessly wrong
about the way this would be accepted.
I thought we were gonna
earn the Congressional
Medal of Honor, I thought
this was the highest form
of selfless service, risking your life,
going out on patrol on
the number four train,
the muggers express, the
number two train, the Beast,
wearing a uniform that made you look
like a Pop-and-Fresh Pillsbury
Doughboy and Doughgirl
in a red beret and a white t-shirt.
And all of a sudden,
the Warriors was debuted
by Paramount Pictures, it's
become a cult-classic film.
In which it depicted gangs on the subways.
That was February 8th of 1979,
February 13th I announced
that 13 young men would begin to patrol
the city subway system and one day
there would be 13,000,
and before I could get
that last word out of my mouth,
the guy who had befriended
us and who would actually
put us on a pedestal,
Ed Koch, that's the
new mayor, vilified us.
He put the scarlet letter on us.
He said this is vigilantism,
he would call us
the Hell's Angels,
reporters would correct him
and say, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're the Magnificent
13 Subway Safety Team."
"Aw, they're like the Hell's Angels,
they're vigilantes, I'm not gonna let
13 young men in sneakers
provide public safety
in the city of New York," and from that,
the cops, who had suffered
incredible cut-backs
in staffing because the
city was on the brink
of going chapter 11,
so they were concerned
about their colleagues
getting back on the job.
And now, all of a sudden, the
police unions were saying,
by any means necessary, stop them.
- They're inexperienced,
they really know nothing
about what they're doing,
someone's going to get hurt.
I think it all comes to a head,
maybe when one of these kids gets killed.
- We are prepared to
die for our commitment,
we get paid well, it's true,
but we are the representatives
of law enforcement for the society.
Not a bunch of rag-tag
kids with sneakers on,
who have absolutely no concept
of what law enforcement is.
- And so, the call to
arms for all the cops was,
arrest them, you see them,
cite them, write 'em tickets,
lock 'em up, drive this
idealism out of them
because we truly believe it,
you scratch 'em right down
to their bones, they're nothin'
but thugs and thugettes.
That in fact their motivation
is such that they'll just
become another gang.
- On December 30th, 1981,
Guardian Angel, Frank Melvin,
on patrol in the Dayton Street
housing project in Newark,
New Jersey, was shot once
through the heart and killed
by a Newark police officer.
- A police officer, identified
to us by the members
of this patrol, badge number 891,
a sergeant, called Kasey,
stopped Frank dead in his tracks.
Frank opened up his jacket, said,
"No need to shoot, I'm a Guardian Angel."
Exposed the shirt, no
weapon being exposed,
no threat to any police officer,
and without one word being
uttered by any other police
officers there, was shot dead.
For you and I who fight back,
we get called vigilante.
We get called, accusing of
abusing other personal rights
and privileges, who have
been the hemorrhoids
most often to Guardian Angels?
The criminals who we're risking
our life without weapons
to stop, why is it that the
police have been our major
adversaries in the cities around America?
The deck was stacked against us.
And Ed Koch, who had
been one who saluted us,
was now doin' everything he
could to stick the shiv in us.
People were coming to the McDonald's,
from Brooklyn, from
Queens, from other parts
of the Bronx, from Manhattan,
even Staten Island, to join.
And this was great, we put 'em
through a training program.
And they started subway
patrols in their own areas.
And all of a sudden, we
began to slowly grow.
But in the interim, I
was getting locked up.
Other Guardian Angels
were getting locked up,
set up by the cops, they
just try to so decompress us,
so depress us that we would
give up these patrols late
at night until the wee
hours of the morning.
And then on September
4th, Labor Day, 1979,
our numbers had grown
so we were no longer 13.
- [Reporter] The Guardian Angels,
they started as 13 kids with
a plan to fight street crime.
Now they've grown to more than 1,000.
From New York, to Philadelphia,
Atlanta, Los Angeles.
Across the nation, the
red berets are helping
the cities in fear.
- And we were asked
to patrol Central Park
because there was a series
of gay bashings in the rambles.
And at the time, the police
were very homophobic.
Ha, they'd say, "Oh, you're a gay guy?
You deserve it then," and
so we took it upon ourselves
to go in there and patrol
so that they gay bashings
would stop, and all of a
sudden we were embraced
by the counter-culture,
in fact, the Clash,
the counter-culture group of our lifetime,
actually dedicated a song to our exploits
called Red Angel Dragons, oh,
now, we were considered like,
hip-hop, graffiti artists,
and Guardian Angels.
And I walk into this Bushido,
this Japanese art gallery,
and I see this drop-dead
gorgeous statuesque woman.
Well-spoken, just radiating,
not only with beauty
but with strength, and class,
totally above what anything
I had ever been with
involved with before that.
She was top-shelf, five
star, a woman would come
from a privileged background,
enriched with New Jersey,
as opposed from the heart of the hood.
But she had a way of mesmerizing,
and she was intoxicating.
And she walks up to me and she says,
"You know, I was thinkin' about joining
the Guardian Angels, what
do I have to do to join?"
I said, "Well," I said, "Lady, you know,
you have to come up to the Bronx.
And you gotta fight your
way through an Apache line,
because that's the way
you had to earn your cred
to join us because it was considered
you were like a kamikaze pilot."
It was suicidal to join us at that time.
You had to have fighting skills.
She said, "Oh, I'm a
practitioner of Goju-ryu Karate,
I'm a black belt," and
I said, "Well, look,
anytime you're ready, come on up.
Six guys on one side, six
guys on the other side,
and then there's a guy at the end.
And you gotta fight through all of 'em.
And you're gonna catch
quite the beat-down."
Well, guess what, she
showed up on a Friday night.
She was gi'd down, we took her in the park
where we train, and she
fought through the 13.
She got hit but she gave
it as good as she took.
She had 13 inch combat
boots on at the time.
Which, I say, yeah, she's hardcore.
And from there, she earned her cred
by going out on patrols,
developed the leadership,
that obviously she was a natural
born leader to begin with.
And earned the credibility of a group
of predominantly black and Hispanics,
and convinced us, the male
machismo that was pumping
through our veins and arteries,
that we needed to get women involved.
And through her leadership,
she attracted so many
other women, and diversified
the makeup of the group.
And assisted me, she was
side by side with me.
- I joined the Guardian Angels
because I wanted to help other people.
And once I learned how to defend myself,
I thought that I could share that
and make some impact on the community.
And I think I joined for the same reason
that a lot of other kids did,
and that's we live in a rough
neighborhood, and we didn't
like what we were seeing.
- And I fell hopelessly in love with her.
I mean, that was the real
first love of my life.
Because we were working
together, we had a mission,
we were idealistic, we
had so much in common
that we couldn't have been more different
in terms of our orientation
and our upbringing.
She had gone to the best schools.
She had the pedigree, I was
the blue-collar working class
kid from Canarsie, Brooklyn,
but not only did we have
the urge to merge but
it was a spiritual bond
that helped us overcome all
the adversarial situations
that we had to face in the future
as our group began to grow and expand
throughout the country and the world.
- Tonight on Prisoners of
Fear, the Guardian Angels.
They have been described by
some as thugs, vigilantes,
amateur crime fighters,
they have been criticized
by police departments across the country
but praised by ordinary
citizens who say they feel safer
with the Angels around.
- These people are puttin'
their lives on the line,
they're very respectful,
they don't bother anybody,
they don't look for trouble.
They carry no weapons,
they have our full support.
- I feel very strongly
that the Guardian Angels,
I've had some experience
from particularly at night,
and I'm very happy to see them.
And I feel they provide
a worthwhile service.
- I'm very glad they're around.
I'm very glad they're around.
- A person committing
a crime, they think twice
before they do anything
because these guys are there.
- You know, we've seen them
up in our neighborhood,
we live up in the Bronx.
They were escorting some ladies home.
- To church.
- You know,
when you see something like
that, that's very nice.
- They're actin' like angels.
(laughing)
- Guardian Angels.
- More or less, yeah.
- [Reporter] I mean, what
is it they do, I mean,
don't you think that maybe
a bunch of vigilantes--
- They stop people from
harming other like,
older people, like,
ladies, you know, females
that be riding the trains
late from home from work.
You know, things like that.
- I see 'em
more than I see cops, 'cause you know,
they be on the train, they
be on the train every time
I get off the train, I always bump into
a Guardian Angel, not always,
but as I get off the train,
I seen one walks past.
- They watch out for you,
you know, like a Guardian Angel.
- Now, at the time, my
nickname was the Rock.
Because I could rock your world.
I could hit you so hard,
your mother would feel
the vibrations, and I
had a nasty veneer on me.
In fact, I would chew
nails, it was all part
of the psychology, of proving
that I was tougher than tough.
Because, again, in this urban environment,
being a white guy immediately
targeted you as a sucker,
as being soft, weak, someone
who would fold like a cheap
camera, and not necessarily be
absorbed into the street culture
that was dominated by
the black and Hispanics.
And yet, with Lisa, obviously
she revealed my softer side.
So, I was a guy at the time
who threw nickles around
like manhole covers, here
she was, an elite model.
She's doing magazine spreads,
she's with the paparazzi,
she's with the page-six
people, she's with the cultural
elite, and I am down there,
you know, knuckle dragging
with street folks, so I
approached her one time
in a moment of weakness,
'cause we were out of sight,
out of mind, and I took her
for some dirty water hotdogs
right, and we had some Doctor Brown's
'cause I loved Doctor
Brown's, the cherry soda.
And we began to bond
then, and I could see,
this wasn't beneath her,
a dirty water hotdog,
a Doctor Brown's, I mean,
it was cool that I could see
that she could relate,
and slowly but surely,
we began to work with one another.
We began to go to events with one another.
We became one of those
couples that everyone
was fascinated with because
they couldn't quite figure out
what would she be doing with this guy.
And what would this
guy be doing with Lisa.
And she was living in the Lower East Side.
Right there on Avenue
8 and St. Mark's Place.
And I moved from the Bronx
to be with Lisa 24/7, 365.
People were shocked because they said,
"Man, what happened to the Rock?"
He's become a pebble!
- So, I've never seen
the show, I don't like the show.
I'm sure the audience
doesn't even like the show.
- Howard, you're in such a bad mood today.
- Yeah, but the truth that I came on
is because I like you two guys.
- Well, thank you.
- We're the hosts,
you're supposed to be the guest.
(laughing)
The other thing, wait a minute, wait
a minute, the other thing is, no.
The other thing I wanna tell you
is maybe--
- Doesn't she look great
without that stupid beret?
(laughing)
Doesn't she look great?
(applauding)
Isn't that beautiful?
(hooting and hollering)
The first time I've seen
the top of your head.
(old pop music)
- Today we're going to attempt to find out
why younger and younger children
are turning to crime and drugs,
what's really influencing
children to choose a
path of crime and drugs,
a group dedicated to
fight crime, Curtis Sliwa.
(uptempo 80s music)
- [Announcer] Welcome to Larry King Live.
Tonight, taking back the streets.
- Here to talk about the
drug crisis from the street
perspective, is the founder
of the Guardian Angels,
Curtis Sliwa.
(uptempo 80s music)
(crowd applauding)
- Old friend, Curtis Sliwa,
founder of the Guardian Angels
civilian patrol group.
- Founder and president
of the Guardian Angels, Curtis Sliwa.
- [Reporter] Members in this
band of angels are all over 60.
Let's meet them.
(uptempo 80s music)
- I'm Julian Khan, age 70.
- I'm George Glover, I'm 65.
- I'm Henry Goodman, aged 78.
- Cleaver Vincent, 80 years
old, the oldest Guardian Angel
in the United States.
- Ladies and gentlemen,
live at the Clash of the Champions,
the man who stands for law and order,
weighing 337 pounds, the Guardian Angel.
(crowd chanting)
(uptempo music)
- Everyone on the periphery,
everyone was involved
in the artistic world, the creative world,
couldn't get enough of
the guardian angels.
I remember, there we were in Studio 54,
as all the freakazoids, the
jetsetters, the trendoids,
were down on the dance
floor, as all of a sudden,
people like Stallone wanted
to take pictures with us,
Trump, people were just coming to us.
The dark side of the
Batman, as he emerged,
we recognized this sort
of new creation of Batman.
Some of it was attributed to the effect
of the Guardian Angels in the streets.
The Watchmen Series attributed
to the Guardian Angels.
So many things I had no
idea what the origin was,
attributed to the effect
that the Guardian Angels were
having not only on our culture,
but in our way of life.
And this fight-back mentality
of being independent,
and autonomous, and it was sort
of like David versus Goliath
the Guardian Angels taking on City Hall,
the Guardian Angels
taking on the power elite,
getting arrested, getting
humiliated, getting vilified.
And yet, we were the peoples' choice.
And then suddenly the
people who controlled
the processing of the
culture of our society,
who said that, oh, the Guardian
Angels are like hip-hop,
are like graffiti, are like the Clash.
So from day one, this, the
house that I grew up in,
that my mother spent most
of her time in her life
growing up in, served as the
administrative headquarters
of the local effort and
then the global effort
of the Guardian Angels,
so, in the basement
is where a lot of our
paperwork and our archiving,
and documents are stored, this
is where all the day-to-day
needs of running a
non-profit are satisfied
by administrators, but it's also a place
where Guardian Angels have come and gone.
Particularly when they're
visiting, they'll stay here
instead of no-tell motel, Holiday Inn.
But it was also the home
of my father and mother.
My father, when he was alive,
my mother who lives upstairs,
it's her house, and
originally, it was the home
of my grandparents, of Fidel
and Nicoletta Bionquino.
They lived all in just that one room.
My two sisters lived
and slept in bunk beds
in this front room, this
was our living room,
that was our kitchen, my mom
and dad had a room to the side
and the smallest room
in the corner was mine.
And we all lived down here.
(rising music)
There was a prejudice in this city
that if you are black and
Hispanic growing up in the hood,
and especially the Bronx,
or parts of Brooklyn,
that you had a criminal
orientation, that it was in your DNA
so when we were taking in recruits,
we did something to defy the authorities.
And defy pragmatic and common sense.
If you came to me and said,
"I have a record, can I qualify?"
And I'd say, well, thanks for being honest
but we have to know the extent
of what you were accused of,
and what you were found guilty of.
And other than murder, or
arson, or selling weight
in terms of drugs, or rape,
or incest, or sexual assault,
we took you on, even if you had quite
the criminal record, you know,
like 500 Scott tissue papers
long, and we would tell these
young men and young women,
hey, today, you start all over again.
It's like you had a
re-birth, a resurrection.
You start with a fresh piece of paper
because once you get through
the training, the orientation
to become a Guardian
Angel, now all of a sudden
people were gonna glom onto you.
They're gonna wanna praise you.
They're gonna wanna beep their horn,
they're gonna wanna pat you on the back.
They're gonna wanna take
you home and introduce you
to your family where normally,
if you weren't wearing
the red beret and the white t-shirt
with the Guardian Angel logo,
they'd be running from you
scared, they wouldn't
make eye contact with you
because they believe the stereotype.
- When I put these colors on, I go through
the streets with a lot of pride.
- I've always wanted to
join the Guardian Angels,
ever since I was a little kid.
- I have a conscience,
I've always felt guilty
for what I've done in my past.
And I just chose to do something about it.
When an old lady comes up
to me and says, you know,
God bless you, I'm glad you're here.
You can't replace that feeling with money.
You know, that's pure,
that's from the heart.
And you can't buy that feeling.
- You have an opportunity of
not just elevating yourself
and redoing all the negatives
you've done throughout
your life but also recasting
in your entire community
with a different look.
(disrupting commotion)
(whistle blowing loudly)
- A lot of people
would always wanted to see, are
we just to trust you, how do
we know that it's not gonna go
over the top, over the edge?
Well, at times it does,
but that's where you have
the checks and balances,
we have no weapons,
no special powers or privileges.
Every Guardian Angel is
searched before they go out
on patrol and searched when
they return from patrol.
And you may ask, why do you search them?
Hah, because we don't trust 'em.
This is not like the blue
wall of silence with the cops.
And in fact, if the
cops trusted one another
so much, why do they have master locks
on their lockers in their dressing room?
Because they'll steal from one another.
And remember, you're constantly told,
no special powers or privileges,
you just have the rights
that a citizen has to
make a citizen's arrest.
But if you grab the wrong person,
you use excessive physical
force, not only will you get arrested,
but the organization,
including the grand poobah,
Curtis Sliwa, are gonna get sued.
- If you're the type of
person that has a hot head,
if you're the type of
person that thinks yeah,
as soon as I get the
t-shirt and the beret,
that's it, I'm gonna do my own thing.
Then there's the door.
- Have I arrived
at scenes where the Guardian
Angels were in the gray area?
You better believe it, have
I had to clean up the mess
in terms of what the Guardian
Angels were accused of doing?
Yeah, you have to believe
it, but each and every time
that I was able to clean
up a mess, I was able
to incorporate that into
a better training program
so as to avoid making
the same mistake again.
And more importantly, acknowledge it,
that that was a setback for us.
(steady somber music)
- I personally don't believe
in what would be termed
as paramilitary groups, I
think that if you want to help
in law enforcement and
you're not a police officer,
you should join the auxiliary police.
- I was branded with a scarlet letter,
the big V for vigilante,
couldn't shake it.
So I had reverse osmosis, I decided,
why fight the label, vigilante?
Because it's like being on a treadmill,
I was getting nowhere,
I saw with Mayor Koch,
one on one at city hall in New York.
I sat with Jane Burn in city
hall in Chicago, the mayor.
I sat with Diane Feinstein
who was the mayor
in San Francisco, all of them said,
in a one on one meeting,
they would bag and tag me
as a vigilante and run me out
of their respective cities.
And I stood up and I
said, A, we have the right
to make a citizen's arrest
like any other citizen.
That's not a vigilante
act but the whole notion
of vilifying vigilantes is so reflective
of how you have distorted the history.
You are revisionists,
vigilantes were necessary
when there was no law and order.
When there was no badge,
there was no shield.
There was no organized policing.
There were times when
settlers were moving west
in this country where
you had no law and order.
The town residents had to get together.
They called it Posse Comitatus
and they would go after the horse thieves,
they would go after the bank robbers.
They would go after the
rapists and marauders.
And sure, often times,
there would be justice
in which all of a sudden
you'd get a necktie
hung from the nearest tree, and
that was the bad part of it.
But the whole notion of
organizing and going out there
and grabbing the bad guys was good.
And so all I did was
eliminate all the negatives
and maintain the positive core.
That we would bring together
young men and young women,
the least likely to get together,
the ones that you were generally afraid
of, paralyzed of, and you would
hope that if nothing more
they would mind their P's and Q's,
sit on the sidelines and
not get into trouble.
And we would proactively
get them to preemptively
stop crime and if necessary,
grab the individuals
responsible and be positive role models.
And if that meant that
I was gonna be labeled
with a scarlet letter, the
big V of vigilante, so be it.
(funky music)
You know, the question I'm always asked
no matter where I travel around the world,
hey, Sliwa, what ever happened to that guy
in the subway, you
know, the subway gunman?
They forget the name, Bernhard Goetz.
And on this particular day, Bernhard Goetz
passed for milquetoast, geek, right?
You know, with the pocket
protector, you know,
just a real fuddy duddy, basically
with a big V on him that
said victim, victim.
But unbeknownst to us, we
didn't know that prior,
on prior occasions, Bernhard
Goetz had been victimized
in the subways, one time,
down near the Lansley Street,
thugs took him and threw him
through a plate glass window
as they robbed him, and it
degraded him, humiliated him.
And he said, never again, he
went off to New Hampshire,
live free or die, where
they believe in guns.
And he took rapid gun response training,
combat gun training, and
he carried that piece
wherever he went, and then
on one Saturday, he's going
downtown, not far from city hall.
And all of a sudden, walking
through that number two train,
the Beast, was Troy Canty,
James Ramseur, Barry Allen,
and Darrell Cabey, oh I remember
all four of their names.
We knew that they would
go onto the trains,
on the weekends especially,
first the arcades
on the Deuce, 42nd street, and
would sharpen screwdrivers.
They'd try to break into machines
that had a lot of coin,
they would break in
to all the pay telephones
that were always vandalized
and broken into for the
coin, and then, it was like
Clockwork Orange, they loved
to get a vicarious thrill,
all four of them, by coming up to people
in the subways and chumping them up.
Not always to rob them but
to show them at any point,
they could reach out, touch
them, rob them, kill them,
rape them, and just
completely emasculate them.
And when they saw Bernhard
Goetz sitting in front of them,
oh, they came out to play, and
they had sort of surrounded
him, anybody being in that circumstance
would know right then, you
were gonna get victimized.
Most people wouldn't know what do.
He pulled out his gun and
he fired in rapid sequence.
Bang, bang, bang, and
then when all of a sudden,
one of the guys fell to the ground.
He said, "You don't look so bad."
Bang, shot him right in the back.
And that's what paralyzed him.
And then he fled through the
cars, jumped out the back
of the train, into the
darkness of the tunnels
and disappeared, and all of a sudden,
he was lionized, he was a hero.
What you saw was a
silhouette on the front pages
of the newspapers of
America, everybody wanted
to know where was this subway gunman?
Because he had fought back,
he represented everyone out
there who had been victimized,
who had been taunted,
who had been humiliated, who themselves
had been emasculated,
and he was on the lam.
(uptempo instrumental)
- [Reporter] From WNBCT TV,
this is News For New York.
- [Anchorwoman] Police
are calling the gunman
a vigilante, they say
that he methodically shot
four young men on a crowded
Seventh Avenue IRT Express
just north of Chambers
Street in Manhattan.
The gunman said he shot them
because they were trying
to rob him, Rolanda Watts has more.
(first responders radio chatter)
- [Rolanda] New York City
police are calling this
the most serious subway crime this year.
Four men, 18 and 19 years old,
shot by a gunman who is still at large.
A gunman who police
say, told the conductor
of the southbound number two
train that the four victims
were trying to mug him and
that's why he shot them.
Police say the gunman then fled the train
using the subway tracks
as his escape route.
The gunman is described as a
white man in his late 30s,
blonde hair, wearing
glasses, and neatly dressed
in a gray sweater and blue jacket.
Two of his victims are in
critical condition tonight,
suffering from gunshot
wounds in the chest.
The other two shot in the
back are in serious condition.
Police say they did find
several sharpened screwdrivers
in the coat pockets of the victims,
screwdrivers sometimes used
as weapons or theft tools.
Mayor Koch was among those attending
tonight's press conference.
- It came down to simply
because the uniqueness of the situation
involving four people being
shot in this incident.
- This particular incident
also brings to light
that some citizens are carrying weapons
to protect themselves just
in case there's trouble.
And while that's comforting
to some, others are concerned.
- If I had more bullets,
I would've shot 'em all
again and again, my problem
was I ran out of bullets.
And I was gonna gouge
one of the guy's eyes out
with my keys afterwards,
you can't understand this.
I know you can't understand
this, that's fine.
- But we stood firm for
Goetz, we fought for his right
to fight back, and even though,
it turns out he was titched,
and (foreign language), and
he would chase squirrels
in the park, has he ever
gotten into trouble again?
No, he rides the subways to this day.
And people recognize him,
and a lot of people run away
'cause they think he's the subway gunman.
He's harmless but in that
moment, he became infamous
as the subway rider who
finally fought back.
(rushing train)
- I don't think they clean up the streets,
I think they're part of the problem.
Bunch of vigilantes runnin' around here
with no badge whatsoever,
if everyone did that,
it'd be chaos.
- The people down here
don't want 'em, they're
just, if you get 12 people
walkin' down the street
all dressed the same,
if somebody's going to do a crime,
they're gonna see 'em
coming, they're gonna wait
till they pass, and they're
gonna do it anyways.
(profane bickering)
(crowds verbally altercating)
- Ain't none of these motherfuckers
ever fucking know what
stuff is all about, you get the
fuck out of my way, alright?
I'm a private citizen,
and I got ID and all.
Get off me, bud!
(crowds clamoring)
Oh don't you go taking pictures of me.
- Alright, alright.
- Call your Angels, here.
(dramatic ominous tone resonates)
(birds chirping in distance)
- Well, well, you wanna know about Curtis.
Now, excuse me if I have to think awhile.
You know, usually I'm like
that, but 91 years old now.
- You're 92, 92, today you're 92.
That's already done, here.
- But you don't have
the seeds or anything.
- We'll add one, don't worry.
- Okay, get ready.
- Okay, ready.
- One, two, three.
(group sings Happy Birthday)
(applauding and cheering)
(whistling and applauding)
- So now what we wanna do is make a wish.
Let's everybody make a wish, okay?
And wish something really
great, you too, mom.
Okay, this is a really strong wish.
Now you gotta blow the candles
out so the wish happens.
- Yay!
(cheering)
- Alright, I was born in
Chicago, her first child.
(chuckling)
And I always wanted
a baby brother so I would
ask my mother constantly
from the moment I could speak,
please can I have a baby brother?
And then finally, my mother got pregnant.
And I was at Ursuline Academy, and the day
that he was born, I went to the nuns,
it was in the Bronx, and I
said, my brother is born.
They said, "How do you
know it's a brother?"
'Cause at that time, they
didn't do the checking.
I said, I know it's a
brother and he's born.
They said, "Uh-uh, he's not
born yet, we know this."
Sure enough, (clicks tongue)
as soon as I nailed it
he was born, and the interesting thing
is that I was going to
school in the Bronx.
It was the the Ursuline Nuns in the Bronx
and they took him right
after he was christened,
and placed him on the
altar at Ursuline Academy
in the church and dedicated
him to helping mankind.
My mom was always instrumental
in helping Curtis,
she'd always jump in there, she did the PR
for the Guardian Angels,
she was wearing white.
And she was always Mama
Angel, and she was helping
all the angels, they
would come into the house,
and my father was there,
and she was like the mother
to many of these kids.
- Let them see you.
- Yeah.
- See,
he's a Guardian Angel.
- Yeah.
- He wants to be like his father.
- Mm-hmm.
- Are you
proud of your dad, Anthony?
- Yes, I am, very much.
- Can you tell us why?
- 'Cause he's a hard-working
dad, he's a hard-working
dad and everything.
- Okay, this is good, this is good.
- This is a good one, okay.
- Faster, faster, out.
- So, this is my mom's
room, and obviously,
when my dad was alive, he was here.
And this is their shrine
to democrats, to liberals,
and to progressives, because
they have a picture up
of Barack Obama, Jesus Christ, the Pope,
other iconic figures in
Roman Catholic faith.
And this is where they would
pray, and they would have
sort of quiet contemplative thought.
But you would never see Ronald
Reagan up there, or Rudy
Giuliani, or Bush '41 or
Bush '43, or any Republican.
That would be considered
a (foreign language).
(dramatic instrumental)
- Curtis asked me questions about crime,
the corruption that's
around and everything.
And I said we had a great backer
for the American Revolution, Edmund Burke.
And he wrote this one statement
that I always quote, "All
it takes for evil to triumph
is that good men remain
silent and do nothing."
And the other thing he said,
"The worst kind of tyranny
are bad laws," and I
constantly hammer that
into my children, to
understand that when you see
a crime or something wrong,
you have a right to stop it,
to get involved, because most
people, they talk about it
but are never involved directly.
They're afraid to put up,
they're afraid to make
a commitment.
- You know,
in the day and age that I grew up in,
where everyone was
hardened in their views,
my dad was a combination of a
libertarian and a Unitarian.
I know, a libertarian and a Unitarian,
because he was open-minded,
he had traveled the world
as a seaman, he would bring back books,
and he would tell me
stories of what it was like
in all of these exotic locations
that I couldn't pronounce,
and I couldn't find on a map.
And I was just mesmerized,
and he had movie star looks.
Blonde hair, blue eyes,
and he exuded strength.
And he told me what it was
like, against all odds,
that his family had survived
the depression in Chicago,
and I was able to compare
that with my mother's family
in Brooklyn that survived depression.
But most importantly, he
would straighten me out.
He wasn't my wartime consigliere,
he was my peacetime consigliere.
Soon after he was in
intensive care, heart failure,
all other kinds of problems,
and then there came
that moment in which our
family was gathered around
together and we were told he
doesn't have long to live.
And all of a sudden, he's no longer lucid,
he's no longer able to communicate.
You can see, he was trembling,
he was in such incredible
pain, and I said to the doctors, why?
Why are we continuing
his life, he's suffering.
And they said, well, there's an option.
We can continue his life but
we'll have to break his ribs
and give him CPR.
(slow music)
We can't do this, dad
is suffering so much.
So I said, let me take
over, I'm the medical proxy.
And I went in that room
and I stared and glared
at all the doctors, the
physicians, and the nurses.
And I said, I know what I
gotta do, leave the room.
They said, "We can't leave the room."
I said, fuckin' leave the room!
And I grabbed my father's
hand, it was shaking.
And I put my mouth right to his ear.
And I knew he could hear me, and I said,
"Dad, don't worry about it, you can go.
"I'll take care of mom,
I'll take care of the house.
"I promise, you were the
greatest father to us,
"all three of us, you gave us everything.
"You worked overtime,
you gave us piano lessons,
"martial arts, anything I wanted,
"parochial school education,
you were there for me
"in my time of need, you can go now, dad."
And his grip lessened, and he
began to breath peacefully.
He was no longer in that dire circumstance
where I knew it was more
mental than it was physical.
And I knew where the magnet was
because he had a pacemaker,
and I knew exactly
what I had to do as his
son, and I took that magnet,
and I waved it over his pacemaker,
and it stopped his heart.
And he passed on to the hereafter.
And I felt the energy
leave the body of his being
here on this plane, and it almost like
it transferred to me, and
the staff came back in,
and they knew what I had done.
And it was hush, hush, mush, mush.
And I know a lot of
families go through that.
And a lot of times, that's
exactly what transpires
when you have to make a
decision, what's in the best
interest of your father or your mother.
And I know my dad is lookin' down on me
and understanding that
I carry on the torch.
He passed it right on to
me, that day, in that bed,
in Maimonides, when he
drew his last breath.
Two people had the biggest
influence in my life,
both passed away in my arms, my
grandfather, Fidel Bianquino
at 99, and my father,
Chester Sliwa, at 93.
(train rushing)
(rising ominous music)
- I think it's really a
question of ego, the male ego,
that's what it comes
down to, because these,
'cause the Mayor of New
York, the Police Commissioner
of New York, and as well as
many, many, other cities,
have told we the people that
there is nothing that can be
done about the drug problem,
that it's too big to control.
Do you realize that all
across the United States,
all summer long, children
have not been able
to go out of their apartments to play
because they're afraid of getting killed
in the crossfire of drug dealers.
What kind of freedom is that?
- It was the mid 80s
and it was the time when crack cocaine
smashed the city's
face, and crack was wack
as many people say because
the NYPD was a dollar short
and a day late, they had never dealt
with these kinds of dope fiends.
- It's a crack head eatin'
a car battery, yeah.
And I'm gonna tell ya right now,
crack addict say, he's a crack head.
(stammering mindlessly)
- I mean, before that, those
guys were shooting heroin,
maybe a little bit of cocaine
mixed with the heroin.
But at some point, they would
drop off, and catch a few Z's.
But when these folks suddenly
were beaming themselves up
to Scotty in a glass
pipe, smoking those rocks,
they were catatonic, they
were going 24/7, 365.
They were crime machines to
feed their insatiable appetite
to smoke this crack, and
immediately, the Guardian Angels
were pressed into
service in the front lines
because in a lot of the neighborhoods,
the inner-city neighborhoods
and especially the Bronx,
the cops had basically
waved the white flag.
They had given up,
meantime, what we decided
to do was to rob the crack dealers.
When we get inside, you're slamming
and jamming, asking no questions.
Hands on the head, you pass
them down beyond the floor.
One of you will be scoopin'
it up, drugs, money,
paraphernalia, we're right outside.
We perform our little act, we destroy it,
we alert the public, English and Spanish.
And then we're on our way,
we don't have time to play.
So, are we ready?
- Let's go.
- Are we bricks?
(chanting in agreement)
- Alright.
- Yeah, yeah!
(chaotic yelling)
- I'm gonna fuck you up!
- Get up, get off me!
(chaotic yelling)
- What were you doin' in that building?
What are you doin' in this building?
You're smoking crack,
you're selling crack,
and you're hookin'.
(uptempo music)
You know how many complaints we've had
about this building from the
people in this community?
They're tired of seeing this crap go on.
They're tired of seeing crack,
crime, and hookin' goin' on.
Somehow, they sniffed out
that we were in the area
doing recon, and this time when I called
upon the raid to take
place, we were entrapped,
we were surrounded, the drug
dealers were shooting off their
guns, the muscle heads were
outside, they were flexing.
Got into the back of the
truck, and as we tried
to make our getaway, guys and gals
were coming at us with
bats and pipes, and sticks,
and hatchets, meantime, the
cops were a few blocks away,
they're spectating, they're
waiting to see if the Guardian
Angels are gonna have to
be carried out on gurneys,
if they're gonna have to
send in the meat wagons.
Luckily, we were able to get outta there
as the shots continued to
be fired from the rooftops,
we would stop at certain sections
and which we would see a huge
gathering of young people.
We would step into the streets,
we would empty the drugs
out of the fanny packs,
the money on the street.
We would count the
money up, and bundle it,
and we would destroy the drugs
in front of all the young
people and put it down the sewers.
- This is what the children
of America dying for.
No, this is what the
people of America kill for.
You know this is what's
destroying our nation,
crack cocaine and blow, you know,
I don't want you doing this.
(chanting crowds)
Right here is the main reason
that the Guardian Angels do what we do.
This is our future, alright,
when we leave drugs this way,
maybe this damn country have a chance.
- And naturally they were aghast,
they couldn't believe this,
we're talking about thousands,
tens of thousands, hundreds
of thousands of dollars worth
of narcotics of all time,
mostly crack and heroin,
and a lot of currency,
and we would bundle it up.
And we would bring it
back to Restaurant Row,
where we began our Crackdown on Crack
near the Great White Way, Broadway,
when we liberated Times
Square from the menace
of the crack dealers and the crack users.
And there was a Lutheran
Church which had the largest
soup kitchen in Manhattan at that time,
and we would hand it over to the pastor,
Pastor Hanson, who was in charge.
And his assistant, who
else can say in 37 years,
walking amongst the Uzi-toting,
dope-sucking psychopathic
killing machines,
physically getting involved,
not just being eyes and
ears, which, you know,
see something, say something, that's good
if you wanna be passive, but
if you wanna be proactive,
and aggressive, and deter
crime, there's gotta be a little
bit of oomph in terms of what you do.
Only one lawsuit, six Guardian
Angels shot and killed
in the line of duty, 36 seriously
injured including myself,
and when you look at the other
ledger, who's been seriously
injured, who's been
killed, who's been maimed?
I think the ledger suggests
that we've maintained quality
control to the best of our ability.
(uptempo funky music)
(ominous music)
I decided, okay, I don't have every fact
but I'm gonna talk about the murder
that John Gotti did, that
would get him triple life
without parole that nobody had
ever talked about publicly.
It had been related to
me by my cousin, Butchie.
Hey, he was a lush, you
know, he liked the booze.
He had been at the Silver
Fox which was a combination
gin mill and dance hall
in South Ozone Park.
And who rolls in that night, as
a lot of the young
ladies and men are on
the dance floor, but Gotti and his crew.
There was Rogerio, there
was McClaughlin, Caplin,
a whole crew, and they were
lookin' for Danny D'Silva.
Because Danny D'Silva they
had given a kilo of cocaine
on consignment and they surrounded him,
and Gotta Jr. says, "Hey, Danny,
we've been lookin' for
you, where's our snaps?
Where's our moola-shmoola?"
(dramatic music)
And Danny said, "Fuck you, Gotti."
Now, this is in front of all of his guys.
'Cause naturally, he's
dancin' with his woman.
So, Gotti gets a shiv
from Rogerio who sticks it
into the back of his
hand, and he now stabs him
46 times, he holds him
up, keeps stabbing him
as his homeboys hold him up,
and then, when he's laying
on the ground, he's stabbing
him over, and over, and over
in a psychotic rage, he
has to be dragged away
and taken back to his father's social club
on 101st Avenue, the Burgen Hunt, Fish,
and Shooting Human Beings Club.
And then these guys tell,
"Hey, your son just killed
this guy on the floor
there, the dance floor."
And Gotti says, "Don't worry about it.
Everybody knows they didn't see nothin'."
So, guess what?
The DT's come and he
starts asking questions.
And nobody saw nothin', oh,
Gotti was here, I didn't know.
What, the Gambino's, ah,
what are you talking about?
Eh, the guy must have fell
on a knife, what, 46 times?
Yeah.
And then from the crowd
emerges Danny D'Silva's
best friend and he says, "I
know what happened, officers."
"Well, come with us,"
he goes to the precinct
and he says, "John Gotti Jr.
stabbed my friend 46 times.
He murdered him," the
call goes up to the Queens
District Attorney, John Santucci.
And all of sudden, he says,
"Gotti, you got a problem.
I've got good evidence here that your son
killed Danny D'Silva,
do what you gotta do
because if not, I'm
gonna have to charge him
and he's gonna get arraigned."
So, Gotti Senior says, "No problem.
Thank for the heads
up," a few days later,
this guy is found hanging from
a tree, strung by his neck
but his knees were touchin'
the sidewalk in Ozone Park.
A clear signal to everyone,
he didn't hang himself.
He was killed and then hung out to dry.
A message that everyone,
hush, hush, mush, mush.
Meantime, the coroner comes
and says it was a suicide.
Really, how much did
the coroner get greased?
And so, Gotti Senior
figured that that chapter
was put to rest until Curtis Sliwa
told a story that day,
and that began the road
to the decision that
by all means necessary,
they were gonna wack and kill Curtis Sliwa
to silence me and have me
swimmin' with the fishes
in Jamaica Bay.
(dramatic music)
- Well, the hunt is on
tonight and Mayor Dinkins is
pledging his help to find the
gunman that ambushed and shot
Curtis Sliwa, the Guardian
Angels founder and leader is
recovering from surgery at
Bellevue Hospital tonight.
Magee Hickey is there now
with a live report for us.
Magee?
- Chuck, Curtis Sliwa
is still in critical
condition at this hour
after undergoing more
than six hours of surgery
to remove five bullets, he's expected
to recover fully from his injuries
in a shooting that took place this morning
at exactly the same place
where he'd been attacked
by three men with baseball
bats two months earlier.
It happened just after 5:00
AM, near this news stand
at Seventh Street and Avenue
A, Curtis Sliwa told police
he had just gotten into this
cab to head to his morning
radio show when he was shot five times
in the thigh and lower
abdomen by someone he said
was crouching in the front seat.
- He jumped out the window to get away.
He's got the scrapes and
bruises on the side of his leg.
- Had this bullet gone,
I would say approximately
one inch higher, he might've
been paralyzed for life.
- They're out to get him, he was set up.
This was not the first
time he's been put upon.
Several weeks ago, he was attacked
by fellas wielding bats.
- Later, police determined
the cab had been stolen the day before.
Police say Sliwa's two white assailants
switched into a white
town car, a few blocks
from the shooting.
- I admire Curtis Sliwa
and I think he places his
life into his own hands
doing what he does.
- I just hope everything
works out for him, and
that his work continues
because it's not easy, what he does,
and the city needs more people involved,
and people doing things.
(fading into ominous tone)
- So, I'm laid out on the asphalt
on the corner of Avenue
B and Sixth Street,
after being shot multiple
times, diving out of that cab.
The original plan was,
they would shoot me up,
I would bleed out, they
would drive me over
the Williamsburg Bridge, they
would chemically incinerate
me at one of their chop
shops and junkyards.
And all of a sudden there
would be no evidence.
Not of any of my DNA anywhere.
Well, there was a problem,
I decided to thwart
that plan even though I didn't
know what the ultimate goal
was and dive out of the car
after being shot multiple times.
And as they stripped me
of my clothes, the EMT's
and put me in the body
bag, and pumped it up
with a bicycle pump to try
to repress the bleeding,
and it felt like a baby
grand piano had been rested
on my breastplate, and
I'm screaming in pain
in the middle of the street,
and it's attracting more
and more people, and they
throw me on the gurney,
and they race me to Bellevue Hospital.
And we must've hit every
pothole on the way to Bellevue
because I could feel my blood
slushing in the body bag.
And I'm thinking to myself, hey, God,
as my judge, I'm too
young to go, c'mon, man!
I got so much more to
do, I can't die this way,
at the hands of my enemies,
please, give me another shot!
But God wasn't listening,
the guy that was listening
was Dr. Leon Pachter 'cause as
they wheeled me into the ER,
as they were already getting the scalpel
and cutting the first slice into me
because they had to operate El rapido
because I was expiring quickly.
Dr. Leon Pachter, amazingly,
all roads lead to Canarsie.
Born and raised in Canarsie,
whispered in my ear,
he says, "Curtis, we got your back."
So, the machine is keeping me alive.
They're monitoring my vital signs.
I'm slowly coming out of, well,
being in a deep, deep, deep,
REM sleep, something
I've never had before.
And all of a sudden, as I look to my left,
I see the image of the
former mayor of the city
of New York, Ed Koch, who
had been my lifelong enemy,
my nemesis, who had called us vigilantes,
who had made my life (foreign language),
who led to me being arrested
76 times on his orders.
And there he is, he's smiling at me.
And I said to myself, this is it.
I must've gone straight to
hell without an asbestos suit
and here he is, it's Lucifer
welcoming me into the furnace.
He was there to suddenly
say, you know something?
Let bygones be bygones, if anything,
the Guardian Angels are like chicken soup
when you have a cold,
it certainly can't hurt,
it can only help.
- With the passage
of time, everybody
accommodates, and they reach
a point where people, including the cops
who perceive them as positive.
- They tried to get me
twice, two times up,
two times they failed,
I got a lot more in me.
I got a lot more life in
me, and I've got a lot more
to accomplish on this plane
before I cash in my ticket.
- Curtis Sliwa has been showed photos
of about 15 members of young Gotti's crew.
If there is any validity to this theory,
why would the son of a powerful mob boss
take out a contract on
the high-profile leader
of the Guardian Angels?
(suspenseful instrumental)
- Right now, the interesting thing is that
they tell the whole story
of when they wanted to kill
Curtis Sliwa, so, John,
today, how do you feel
sitting next to Curtis?
- Well, I don't blame him.
Obviously, if guys are trying to kill him,
and hurt him, and I'm part
of that Gambino family,
I would feel the same way as him.
(suspenseful music)
- Where's that Gotti Jr. now, John White?
- Well, tellin' tales still,
he won't apologize to Curtis.
And he's still free, he's
free, he's runnin' around,
he's scared to come into the neighborhood,
he won't go to any of the Boroughs
and he knows guys will
hurt him or kill him.
So he's hiding behind his attorney.
And still spinning tales
instead of being a man
and apologizing to this
man sitting next to me.
I'm actually denouncing that life.
And I'm out running around
trying to tell kids,
follow Curtis, follow guys like yourself,
and become men.
- So what do you feel
sitting opposite this guy?
- The fact that he testified
in the fourth trial
against John Gotti Jr.,
hoped to put him away, he's
trying to square the deal.
In terms of will I ever shake his hand?
Hell no, if he slips and
falls and breaks his neck
in the bathroom, God's done justice.
(dramatic music)
- [Interviewer] Set the
record straight, John.
Were you responsible for his shooting?
- [John] No, Sliwa was a
situation that was very unique.
Sliwa was somebody that he
hoped, he prayed, he needed
the guys to shoot him,
that's what he needed.
Because he wanted to
build a career out of it.
He was a nobody and nobody
paid attention to him.
But once that had happened to him,
once he had gotten shot, okay?
He turned around, turns
this great radio career,
making half a million dollars a year,
and he became a bit of a
media darling, you know.
The fact that he's irritated every entity
in New York City throughout his career
really was of little nada but
the fact that he cashed in
on the accusations the
Gotti's had him kidnapped
and shot, well, that's a little different.
(heartfelt music)
- Nothing compares to the love that I have
for this city of New York that birthed me.
My baptism in fire was
in the city of New York.
I'm a Borough boy, I'm
not a Manhattan guy.
I can relate to average, everyday people
and the struggles that they go through.
And I hope as I continue to be humble,
that I maintain that love.
- I love that he gives
to New York City, and
he's there for the people.
And anytime he has a
problem with any issues
that's going on, he attacks it
instead of trying to
put it under the cover
and sheets and stuff, and he's there
for the community no matter
what ethnicity you are.
And he's the truth.
- Been in the Angels
since 1986, first time that
I saw the Guardian Angels,
I was on the Four Train,
had a lady getting attacked
on the train and nobody would help.
The only person that was helping this lady
was Guardian Angels.
- I like what he's for.
Servin' us.
- I'm goin' on 26 years now
of bein' a member of the New
York City Guardian Angels
and one of the reasons why I joined
in this organization
was to make a difference
in the community and help those
that can't help themselves.
- I remember them from back in the day.
C'mon, you gotta jump in on this one.
'Cause we knew them
when, 'cause we're old.
C'mon, Ed.
- I joined in 1982.
I was 18-years-old, I'm
52 years old right now.
The Guardian Angels have
been everything to me.
Curtis has been a great role model.
I didn't have a father when I was younger
so I always looked up to him.
- I wake up 4:30 in the morning
and you know, me and
my family, we watch him
or go to work, my grandma
loves him especially.
I don't know his name but
he says some funny things.
I see a lot of the people
in the subway too.
- It's preparing me for the future.
I wanna be in law enforcement,
so this is kind of,
a step, it's a process, it's
getting me more used to
what I have to do in the future,
what I want to do in the future.
- I was raised in the
projects of East Harlem.
If I would have never
join the Guardian Angels,
who knows where I would be today.
(crowds bustling)
Curtis Sliwa, man.
(upbeat music)
- We have to justify the
time that we were allowed
on this earth, what did you stand for,
what did you do, what did you contribute?
Not to the demise of
others but to the support
and maintenance, and to the enlightenment,
and the enrichment of others, that's how
you're gonna be defined, I
hope that's how I get defined.
And I know the millennials,
I have faith in them.
I have faith in all
people, will actually leave
a better mark on society than
my baby boomer generation did.
And nowadays, what I'm most fearful of
is that I haven't done enough.
I have so much more that
I'm capable of doing.
You can say, "What are you talking about?
You're approaching retirement."
I say, retirement, the only
retirement I'm gonna have
is when I'm room
temperature, are you kidding,
I'm gonna work till the day that I die,
on this, what I'm most passionate
about, the Guardian Angel
principles and concepts,
which are global and local.
When all of a sudden it's
my time to take a dirt bath
then boy, I will be
wrestling the grim reaper,
as I have on many previous occasions.
When I'm six feet under, in a pine box,
or at the rate I'm goin fiscally,
it'll be a cardboard box,
it may be potter's field,
I hope it says one thing on my tombstone.
RIP, he tried, he died, because
I certainly gave it my all.
(uptempo music)
(alt-rock music)