Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump (2020) - full transcript

In the armed forces, there's a
nuclear weapons program called

the personnel reliability program.

Do you have personal defects?

Do you have financial problems
which could compromise you?

Do you have a problem with infidelity?

This is the program where they screen you.

To see if you can be trusted to
hold an M 16 to guard the truck

that might carry a nuclear weapon.

Not that it will, then it might.

That also is the program where they
determine whether you're an air

force missile flight officer, whether
you can go down into a bunker and



be responsible to turn the keys on
a minute, man, three missile, the

chairman of the joint chiefs that is
an entire scaled evaluation program.

That shows your personal reliability
to carry out your orders and

to do the highest risk things
like fly a B 52 bomb or a B two

bomber and drop a nuclear weapon.

The president of the United States doesn't
have to meet any of these parameters.

None of them whatsoever, because the
electorate choosing you clears you.

Into all of these programs.

We have a president of the United
States who was duly elected.

He was put into office, given the great
faith of the people who voted him in.

I, Donald John Trump do solemnly swear.

I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear.

And if we look at the great presidents of
the United States is one unifying thing.

They maintained the continuity in how
the constitution was upheld and defended.



So help me, God.

So help me go.

Congratulations, Mr.

President,

the first two where it's mostly chest
flirting or name calling and Enstone

suggesting Donald Trump was a lunatic.

This man is a pathological liar guarantee.

I have a vocabulary
better than all of them.

Most of them.

I know I have an IQ
better than all of them.

I'm very highly educated.

I know words I have the best
words I have to, but there's

no better words than stupid.

Ah, I don't know what I said.

I don't remember.

I could stand in the middle of
fifth Avenue and shoot somebody

and I wouldn't lose any voters.

Okay.

Recently, the conversation about
the president's mental state

has taken a more serious tone.

I can't explain this crazy
behavior, but I can call it crazy.

We've taken this.

Big beautiful ship.

And it's being turned around very quickly.

I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist,
but the guy needs therapy USA.

I am the chosen one.

Everyone seems to have that opinion.

Donald Trump being unfit.

Good evening.

Uh, thank you guys for coming.

I know our fish first official press
briefing is going to be on Monday,

but I wanted to give you a few
updates on the president's activities.

Uh, but before I get to the news of the
day, I think I'd like to discuss a little

bit of the coverage of the past 24 hours.

Yesterday at a time when our nation
and the world was watching the

peaceful transition of power, some
members of the media were engaged

in deliberately false reporting.

Photographs of the inaugural
proceedings were intentionally framed

in a way in one particular tweet to
minimize the enormous support that

had gathered on the national mall.

No one had numbers.

This was the largest audience to
ever witness an inauguration period,

both in person and around the globe.

Even the New York times printed a Fataar.

Why put him out there though for the
very first time and utter a false hood.

Why did he do that?

It undermines the credibility of
the entire white house press office.

Yeah, don't be so don't be
so overly dramatic about it.

Chocolate.

What is it?

You're saying it's a falsehood and
they're giving Sean Spicer our press

secretary gave alternative facts
to that, but the point that look

alternative facts are not facts.

They're false sites.

My name's George Conway.

I'm a lawyer.

I'm a litigator.

Principally practice securities litigation
I've argued appeals, including a case.

In the big case in the Supreme court.

My wife was Donald Trump's
campaign manager, and now is

counselor to the president.

I was a Republican since
probably about 1980, when Ronald

Reagan was elected president.

I voted for Donald Trump in 2016.

And I almost took a job in the justice,
taught myself to run the civil division

of the trauma of justice, Donald Trump.

Wasn't my first choice among the
Republican nominees, but I was hopeful

that he would calm down and get better.

As time went on, he started to
show a little more discipline.

He would only go off the rails every
third day instead of every day.

But the problem was once he got into
the Supreme position of power, he lost

some of his incentive to be disciplined.

And I'm thinking at this point in time,
what is wrong with Donald Trump is like

a practical joke that got out of hand.

I mean, that's the problem.

I mean, I didn't go into
the administration for.

A lot of reasons, but the
fundamental reason was it was a mess.

I guess I must've been Googling
Trump and mental health because I

clearly thought there's something
seriously wrong with him.

And I came across an article
in rolling stone magazine.

Is Trump a malignant narcissist
and a number of people like Dr.

Gartner or interviewed.

And as soon as I read
that, I realized that's it.

You cannot understand his
presidency without knowing this.

My name is John gardener.

I'm a psychologist.

Um, I taught in the department
of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins

university for 28 years.

I've written some books and I'm the
founder of duty to warn an organization of

mental health professionals that believe
that Donald Trump should be removed

because he's psychologically unfit.

My name is Lance Doda, so I'm a
psychiatrist and a psychoanalyst.

I've spent most of my research career
looking at compulsive and addictive

behavior, and I've become interested
in importance of psychology and

politics in recent years because
of the threat to our country.

My name is Justin Frank, a psychoanalyst
and a psychiatrist I've been in

practice in DC for about 40 years.

Does Donald Trump fit to serve as
the president and commander in chief?

I can answer that with one word.

No, Trump is associate path, a
sadist, a con-artist racist and

misogynist, a sexist in general.

And I think it is a problem.

How dare liberals people
on the left try to.

Undo democracy by accusing a president
of being mentally ill without any basis.

Look, these psychiatrists now who are
trying to diagnose without ever having

met the man, this is not the first
time the left has gone at Republicans.

They did the same thing
to Barry Goldwater.

They did the same thing to Ronald
Reagan over the thousands of

CAPTRUST diagnosed Barry Goldwater
and said he was a mentally ill.

They were then rebuked by the
American psychiatric association

and said, do not make diagnoses.

Without seeing the patient and
they continue to do it today.

The election campaigns in full swing and
New Hampshire battle, whether it's state

of the nation that goes to the polls
on March 10th and growing support for

Goldwater.

So the Goldwater rule has an
interesting history in 1964, Barry

Goldwater ran for president and a now
defunct magazine fact magazine did a

survey of psychiatrists and published
an article saying, psychiatrists,

think the gold water is unfit.

Goldwater sued them.

And he won.

Uh, and as it turns out,
actually he deserved to win.

It was libelous.

Uh, he was not, um, unstable
and the psychiatrists who wrote

those statements about Goldwater.

It's important for people to
understand the history of our field.

This was in the sixties when Freudian
psychiatry really ruled through the roost.

This is what I've discovered.

We are constantly bedeviled
by powerful unconscious

forces in RV.

And so their explanations were
things like he's a latent homosexual.

He's been scarred by his potty training.

He has an unresolved Oedipus
complex based on unconscious

hate of his own father
caused by childhood jealousy,

40th psychiatri.

Though it has many important
and positive aspects and help

move the profession forward.

It's not been used well, in terms
of it's analyzing public figures.

I actually interviewed the last
living member of the ethics committee

that formed the Goldwater rule.

And he said, these were
obviously wild speculations.

They weren't founded in fact.

And so they embarrassed the
profession because they were

really, uh, idle speculations.

And so that's why they passed that rule.

He said to me, we never intended it to
be a gag order, meaning that psychiatrist

could never speak up about public figures.

We just didn't want them
making unfounded statements.

The Goldwater

rule today has been incorrectly, extended,
and the incorrect part about it is

that it now is being used to suppress
speech about things that are knowable.

It says nonsensical saying
an orthopedic surgeon.

Shouldn't be able to watch somebody
in a football injury and say that

person probably has an ACL tear.

He can say it because he's
an expert in the field.

Something happened.

He observed

it.

People need to understand is that
actually the psychiatric interview is

the least reliable method of making
a diagnosis because art current

diagnostic system, the DSM is based
on observable behavioral criteria.

Well, when you meet with
someone, they can lie to you.

So they can say, Oh, I never did that.

Or I don't do that.

But if you could actually observe their
behavior, if you could follow them

around, if you can watch them on TV, if
you could read their social media, if

you could talk to all their significant
others, you'd probably get a much more

reliable indicator of how they behave.

Hey, I'm not

concerned about anything with you
may have shy investigation because

it's a hoax or you that's enough.

Put down the mic.

I

am more confident in my diagnosis
with Donald Trump than any

diagnosis I've ever made before,
because I have more information

by outward appearance.

You're 10 years older
than you were a year ago.

Some weirdnesses vetted my bones.

It's not true that having any kind
of mental health disorder would

make someone a bad president.

Uh, one of my favorites books is
a book called Lincoln's melancholy

about how Lincoln's being a
depressive personality is part of

what allowed him to win the civil war.

He had a capacity to endure mental
suffering that was baked in to who he was.

And so the enormous
burden of the civil war.

Was something he was
actually able to endure.

I have seen what's happened
in this last four years.

When in my state, when people lose
their jobs, it's a good chance.

I'll know them by their names.

Uh,

bill Clinton, I wrote a biography of
bill Clinton about how his hypomania

was part of what energized him in terms
of his charisma and his creativity.

And it also had to do with his impulse
control problems and his hypersexuality.

So it was a double-edged sword,
but it, it doesn't just qualify

someone for being president.

If they have a.

Psychological disorder, but Donald
Trump shows clear signs of the

most severe personality disorder.

It's called malignant narcissism.

And it was first introduced by Eric, from
who escaped the Nazis and spent a lot of

his life trying to understand that the
psychology of evil and he formulated this

diagnosis of malignant narcissism, which
has four components, narcissism, paranoia.

Antisocial personality
disorder and sadism.

I think everybody knows Donald
Trump's a narcissist by now.

I will be the greatest jobs
producer that God ever created.

I know more about ISIS than the
generals do believe me or you're

consulting with consistently,
so that you're ready on day one.

I'm speaking with myself.

Number one, because I
have a very good brain,

but it's the other three components
that make him truly dangerous.

Because many politicians are
narcissistic, but he's also paranoid.

So all of his crazy conspiracy

theories, the state of Hawaii released
my official long form birth certificate.

The birth certificate
was produced in 2011.

You continued to tell the story
and question the president's

legitimacy in 2012, 13, 14, 15.

Yeah.

How about this one about Ted Cruz.

His father, father was with Lee Harvey
Oswald prior to Oswaldo being shot.

And nobody

even brings it up.

And his sense of being victim,

Mr.

Trump turned his sights
on Google tweeting.

They have it rigged for me and others.

So that almost all stories and news is

bad.

And is demonization.

Of anyone who disagrees with him

nasty guy.

Now I know why he doesn't have one
endorsement from any of this colleagues.

John, I pick from the buffet

they're nasty guy.

These are all signs of a paranoid
process, antisocial personality

disorder, or what used to be
called psychopathy or sociopathy.

That's constant lying.

Well, he's the most documented
liar in human history.

I think at this point, It's
violating the rights of other

people and exploiting other people.

So sexual assault would be violating
the rights of other people, uh,

not paying your bills or defrauding
people through Trump university viewed

example of exploiting other people.

And it's breaking laws and breaking norms.

Well, he's broken every
norm of the presidency.

That's one of the reasons he's so out
of control, there's certain norms we

thought no one would ever break, but
it's part of his personality disorder

to break norms and to break laws.

And it's a lack of remorse.

He has no guilt or anxiety about
the destructive things that he does.

Impeachment for that.

It was beautiful.

It was just a perfect conversation.

And the fourth component that Erich
Fromm identified is sadism, truly

taking pleasure in harming humiliating
and degrading other human beings.

If you read his tweets, I wrote an
introduction to a book about the streets.

I had to read thousands of his tweets.

And they literally made me ill
because it was just one vicious

attack on and humiliating insult.

After another, after another, I was
like, how can someone even come up with

thousands of vicious things to say about
so many people, but he enjoys degrading

and humiliating and insulting others.

I do think that we have enough evidence
that most psychiatrists would feel like

it's important to warn about Trump.

We have a duty to warn.

Psychologists and really all,
uh, mental health professionals

have the duty to protect society
if there's a risk to society.

So the terrorist off case was
in the 1970s, a patient said to

a psychologist, I'm going to go
home and murder my girlfriend.

The psychologist didn't warn the
potential victim and the patient

went home and killed the girlfriend.

And it's now the law in all 50 States,
that if you are aware that a patient might

be a danger to someone, confidentiality
goes out the window and confidentiality

is one of our core values, but it's
more important to warn someone who

could be harmed than it is to maintain
even our core value of confidentiality.

Trump is not my patient.

He's not saying I'm gonna
go kill my girlfriend.

But the number of people who were
at risk, the number of people who

could be harmed, isn't one person,
it's hundreds of millions of people.

So if we didn't speak up
would be the immorality.

What annoys me about the Goldwater rule?

The way it's being interpreted
now is it's being interpreted as

if we are being not unethical by
speaking out and warning the public.

When in fact I asked this question
to whom will history be kinder?

Those who spoke up during the age when
Trump Rose or those who were silent.

I want the cleanest water owners.

I want the cleanest air on earth
and that's what we're doing.

And I'm an environmentalist yet.

A lot of people don't understand that
I have done more environmental impact

statements probably than anybody
that's I guess I can say definitely.

Cause I've done many, many, many of them.

More than anybody that's ever been
president or vice president or

anything even close to precedent.

And I think I know more about
the environment than most people.

Gaslighting is a crucial tool
of abusive personalities.

It is lying to someone in a
way that makes them doubt their

own perception of reality.

I'm Dr.

Romany de Fossella.

I'm a professor of psychology.

It's an interesting in the place
where the origin of this term

Gaslight came from, it came from a,
what was a play in the thirties, and

then became a film called Gaslight.

And it was about a man who was
slowly trying to drive his wife.

Matt,

look, I asked him, does it, does when
someone turns on another light in the

house, Did you turn on another light?

No, there's no one in the house.

Fidesz the guests lights kept
getting turned up and down and

he was denying having done it.

You're going to see a doctor.

I met him.

Nope.

More than one doctor tomorrow morning.

Very common sorts of gaslighting
statements or things like

it never happened that way.

You must be losing your mind.

Um, they'll literally say things
happened that didn't happen.

I didn't do that.

I didn't say that many people call
gaslighting a form of emotional abuse

because what you're really doing is
setting out to confuse another person.

When you confuse someone like that,
you really do almost render them more

vulnerable to you and actually easier
to coerce because now they don't.

Really know which way is up.

It's as though you've sort of turned
gravity off and turn them upside down.

Remember the point where
Trump said, listen, don't pay

attention to what you're seeing.

Don't pay attention to
what you're hearing,

what you're seeing and what you're
reading is not what's happening.

And it's interesting because as human
beings we're actually vulnerable to this.

There's a famous experiment and.

Social psychology called
the Ash experiment.

The Ash experiment is they
showed lines on a screen.

One is clearly longer than the other,
and they asked them to which line

is longer and they get a correct
a hundred percent of the time too.

Then you bring in four Confederates who
work for the experimenter, but you pretend

they're also in the study as, as subjects.

And they all say that the
shorter line is longer.

Three, three, three.

Three.

50% of the time the person will reverse
themselves and say, you're right.

I must, the shorter
line is the longer one.

We're very subject to the influence.

Our reality testing is very subject
to the influence of social pressures.

So when he does these things that are
blatantly destructive and disordered,

and yet people act as if they're normal
and they poopoo these, uh, observations.

Eventually, we began to question ourselves
and think, Oh, well maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe it's actually is normal.

It has been so disturbing is that
we've discovered at least some of us

that it's much quicker to demolish
a building than to build one.

And Trump understands that and I
think he can demolish a lot of our

faith as a nation in our institutions.

He can demolish the
effectiveness of institutions.

He can certainly.

Uh, psychologically, uh,
confused and Gaslight people,

uh, like nobody's business.

I said during the transition,
I'll say it up here.

Uh, I think there's been
at times a disconnect.

Between the way we see the president and
how much we love the president and the way

some of you perhaps see the president on.

I certainly see the American
people probably see the president

the way I do, uh, but we want
to get that message out there.

Uh, and, uh, do you use
a wall street expression?

There might be an arbitrage spread
between how well we are doing and how

well some of you guys think we're doing
and we're going to work hard to close

that spread my name's Anthony Scaramucci.

Um, I spent 11 days in the white house as
the president's communications director.

Trump is wickedly smart.

The guy made it to the
American presidency.

He's not stupid.

You can hate Trump because
he says asshole ish things.

Okay.

And he's an obnoxious guy at times, but
what you're missing is that he's now a

reflection of the cultural Zeit guest.

He's an avatar of that anger.

So when he's lighting people up
on Twitter, a very large group of

people in United States that are
actually giggling and they enjoy it.

What are your earliest
memories of don't Trump?

My own.

Remember that Donald Trump were
actually 1983, uh, during the Christmas

season, um, I visited the Trump tower.

The Trump tower, when it's completed
will be $400 million worth of high

priced apartments, commercial space, and
boutiques what's happened is phenomenal.

I've never seen anything to the
extent that I have in New York.

Now from a real estate
standpoint, it's probably become

the hottest city in the world.

That building was a brand new
building in the center of New York.

And it was a lot of publicity and fanfare
Scott brass and a ton of pink marble.

And it's a modern structure.

And he did a great job marketing it.

He sold out the condominiums and he
built himself a triplex, which literally

looks like Louis the 14th, smoke crystal
meth, and then decorated it for him.

I mean, it's like ridiculous
walking into his office.

He had a ton of pictures of himself
on the wall, ton of magazine

covers and all that sort of stuff.

I read the art of the deal when I
was in law school, when it first came

out and I said, okay, this guy's.

Uh, got it going on.

Uh, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
the author of this book right here.

Trump, the art of the deal, Donald Trump
at the beginning of the show, I said,

you either love him or you hate him.

Not.

Do you find that that's true
or does everybody love you

or does everybody hate you?

People love me and a few really
have great distaste for me.

Yeah.

Uh huh.

And why, why, why is it that those
people, that few would not care

for you because you're saying no.

No, I don't think so.

It's just a, I sort of speak
my mind a little bit, a little

bit like you in that race.

Yeah.

A little bit like a little
bit like me, not too much.

Hopefully.

What were you like as a kid?

Very normal in a lot of respects,
but a very, very solid job.

He grew up in Queens.

Uh, his father was making good
money as he was being raised.

He built a lot of lower
middle income housing on the

border of Brooklyn and Queens.

Fred Trump was a successful businessman.

He made a lot of money and
he was smart at what he did.

However, Fred Trump was
a dishonest, crooked guy.

Who stole from the federal government
who wouldn't allow blacks, people

to move into his apartments?

His father said, you've
got to be a killer.

You've got to be King.

You've gotta be tough.

And he took that in.

Is is what you do, something
you've always wanted to do.

I know your father, wasn't
still as a real estate followers

in the real estate business.

And I've, uh, I've been in that in
other businesses, different things.

Uh, I like what I'm doing.

I just enjoy what I'm doing.

I love the real estate business.

I learned a lot from my father
more than anything else.

I learned a lot.

He wanted to make a name for himself.

And he believed early on in his career
that having a lot of publicity and a

lot of profile was going to be good
for the sales and marketing of his.

Apartment buildings and condominiums and
things that he was doing, but he also

wanted to have a unique celebrity persona.

And so Howard stern
represented that for him.

said that, uh, the best way to treat
a woman is to treat her like duty.

No, I never said that, but I never did.

It was attributed to men.

So you never did say that.

No, I never said that, but it
was attributed to me, I say, so

you treat women with respect.

Uh, I can't say that either.

All right.

Good.

All right.

Somewhere in between I do I diamond.

I treat women with great respect,
treat women somewhere in between

respect and, uh, do-do initial
impressions of Donald Trump.

Like everybody else.

I was starstruck.

Back then speaking about women that way it
was more, yeah, the norm where's Marla go.

I think we have to put moral or right up.

Come on.

Let's do that.

Let's take down Frederick.

I went to a fundraiser right
after Ivana and Donald divorced.

So I was excited that he was there.

I went up to him and I said, hello.

I'm a huge Howard stern fan.

And I wanted to introduce myself and
he said, why would I speak to you when

there's so many beautiful women here?

I wouldn't even let you suck my Dick.

One of the problems here is that
Donald Trump doesn't have empathy

and that's not a modest statement.

He literally has no empathy.

He does not feel emotions like
care and, and its associate path.

Well, that's, I've said since 2016 in
the new Yorker, when he started to run

for president, yes, he is associate path.

There is no question.

He's associate path, meaning
he neither has a conscience,

nor does he have a heart.

You make it sound like blade runner.

When they, they go to the replicant, the
replicant knows you've found the man.

He doesn't feel anything.

Anyway.

Doesn't feel anything.

Empathy is a normal human trait.

It's actually normal in all.

Mammals.

It starts in childhood with a.

Parents and a child and it
continues throughout society.

It's what glues people together instead
of just fighting against each other.

Almost everybody has
empathy, but not everybody.

People who don't have empathy
are the people that we call

sociopaths or psychopaths.

That sounds like a very
destructive business philosophy.

They often were treated cruelly.

They were treated without
empathy themselves.

You talk in your book about
getting even the importance

of getting even his revenge.

Sweet.

I strongly in getting, even if somebody
has hurt you, if somebody's gone out of

their way to hurt you, I think that if you
have the opportunity, you should certainly

go out of your way to do a number of them.

And I've had more criticism
about that one statement in my

book than any other statement.

The clergy is called the ministers,
the priests, the rabbis, they've all

said what a terrible thing to say.

That's against our teachings.

I just believe it.

I believe in an eye for an eye.

If you don't have normal empathy,
you're going to mistreat people

because they don't matter.

There's an absence of loyalty.

The absence of loyalty is a sign
of antisocial personality disorder.

Loyalty at its best means.

I care about this person.

I value this person.

So I will stick by this person.

If you have a person without empathy,
what you find is that loyalty disappears.

As soon as the other person crosses them.

As soon as somebody says, I'm not
with you anymore, or I disagree.

It flips from you are the greatest
person to you are a horrible person.

You are a worthless person
and I will attack you.

I will destroy you.

You know, some of the people that
were most loyal to me and people

that I didn't think would be some
of the people that were least loyal

to me or people that I think I
would have treated him differently.

I think it would have treated
different groups differently.

I would have wiped the floor with
the guys that weren't loyal, which

I will now do, which is great.

You know, I love getting even
with PayPal, but you're going

to get, even with some people.

Because was given the opportunity.

If given the opportunity, I will
get either with some people that

were just loyal to here comes.

One of the things they say about you
is that they're ticks within you, a

vindictiveness, the people who climb
to the top by squashing other people.

Those are what we call a
successful associate path.

So let's see pads can be successful.

It's because they're con men.

If you're a con man, you're convincing
them that you are much better, greater,

more caring, more honest than you are.

My name is Rick Riley.

I'm a golf writer and
I've known Trump for.

35 years, maybe

Trump is among our best golfing
precedents for 72 year old guy.

Trump is a good golfer.

He's got a really good, powerful move
through the ball and he hits a long way.

And, uh, his pudding is good.

It's very risky, sort of old school.

Putter

cheating in golf at all

is completely wrong because it's
the easiest sport to cheetah.

There's no reps, there's no ups.

You could cheat every shot if
you want it, but it reveals your

character that you don't, or it
reveals your character that you do.

And he cheats all the time.

I actually played golf with him
with Anthony Anderson one day.

Gotcha.

And we were all playing together and we
clearly saw him hit a ball, hook the ball

into a Lake at Trump national in Jersey.

And his caddy told him he found it.

You know, people don't know
this, but Jerry rigs has

golf carts to go really fast.

He has somebody do that.

Only one golf cart at every
course, he owns goes about 30

miles an hour and that's his.

It's number one, everyone else
goes is about 15 to 18 miles per

hour, so he can hit the ball.

Zip he's out.

You're still, Hey, where's trunk.

You hit, you hit by then he can
kick the ball, move the ball,

take it out of lakes, whatever.

Usually you would put a
Mark down, pick up the ball.

What he does.

He secretly puts the marker on
the end of the putter, and then

he looks like he's marking it.

But really now the Mark
is three feet closer.

That's a ways your putt.

He tried to cheat tiger
woods and around the golf.

Once tiger fricking woods, he's off to the
right he's playing against tiger woods.

They each have a partner.

Uh, he chokes one flat
into the water splash.

He says to his partner,
throw me another one.

They didn't.

I make that's tiger woods tiger.

We are inspired by everything.

You've become an attained.

The job you've done is incredible.

He's telling people he's
won club championships.

That he didn't even play him.

He won a club championship.

That's being played in
Bedminster, New Jersey when he

was playing in Philadelphia.

And he said, called and said, Hey, what,
what won the club championship today?

And the guy goes, uh, 75,
Joe Schmoe, Joe Schmo on it.

Ah, I shot 73 today.

Make me the champion
and the pros, like what?

Yeah.

Make me the champion.

I played better here today.

So Joe Schmoe's name comes off the
wall, maybe one of his great moments of

his life and Trump's name goes up, and
this has happened over and over again.

And then he won at least six or seven
times tournaments where he was the

only guy playing in the tournament.

He'll buy a new golf course, play the
first round by himself and millennia.

And unless millennia gets hot,
he's going to be the winner.

And so if you go to any of his
courses, his first few years, it's

just him because no one else played.

As a writer.

I love Donald Trump.

I loved him because he would say anything.

It was like, yeah, I banged Marilyn
Monroe and I punched out Sinatra and

we're like, yeah, what else you got?

Because he'd say it.

But as an American, I
don't like him at all.

He terrifies me.

If

he's going to cheat a golf, you don't
think he's going to cheat on his taxes

and he's going to cheat on his wives.

You don't think he's going
to cheat to win an election.

You're just going to cheat
to stop an investigation.

You don't think he's going

to cheat.

To break rules to get information
from foreign countries.

My God, he just admitted he does it.

So I came to Washington over 30 years
ago to work in the Reagan administration

was chief of staff to the vice president
and the George H w Bush white house.

So I worked in government, worked in some
Republican politics, edited the weekly

standard for the lower two decades.

I'm Richard painter.

I'm a law professor at the
university of Minnesota.

I was the chief white house ethics
lawyer for president George W.

Bush.

Most of my life, I was
in the Republican party.

Uh, Malcolm Nance, uh, former
us intelligence officer started

out actually in, in cryptology.

And I'm sort of an expert in all
things related to foreign intelligence,

operations, counterterrorism,
and now Russian intelligence

activities in the United States.

the traits that are important
in a leader vary, but there

are some absolute constants.

And the way to look at them is.

The titles and the Val core values
that we see for each arm service

honor, courage, commitment, country,
duty service above self excellence.

In all that we do always
faithful, always prepared.

These are some of the core values that we
entrust in our national military leaders.

And those should be the same
core values that we should

have in our political leaders.

To be a good leader.

A person has to, first of all,
recognize that other people have

rights and individualities that
you need to take into account.

You appreciate who they are and,
and what's important to them.

The problem arises in leadership.

When you have a person who does
not appreciate that others are

there as independent folks,
but who are there to serve you.

We

expect leaders to bring people
together, to try to unify

the country as best they can.

The number of attacks that this president
is making on Twitter are astronomical.

And then the attacks on the media
on top of that, I've never been, I

really liked the Trump is an idiot.

Trump is a buffoon sort of aspect of
the anti-Trump rhetoric because I think

it does diminish where that it should.

Some of the real dangers he poses.

No, he's not fit

to serve.

I think either by character or judgment,
I don't agree with his policies.

I don't think he has much experience.

He doesn't know how government
work works, but all that can

all be tolerated or survived.

But in terms of it's just basic,
uh, character and judgment.

Is basic sense of putting the country
first, at least in key moments, you know,

every politician has moments where he
cuts corners and watches out for himself

or herself, but the Trump, it was Trump.

It's the opposite.

It's a mirror.

I almost think it's a miracle when
he actually seems not to simply put

his own narrow interests first and
the recklessness and the demagoguery.

So undercuts democratic norms and
sort of constitutional processes

that it's dangerous to the country.

Why do they hate his guts?

They hate his guts because he
represents a threat to their status quo.

It's almost, it's a very weird
salad because it doesn't fit in the

box of the traditional Republican
establishment or the democratic party.

I mean, he is a reflection of
our politically correct society.

If I'm not allowed to say what I'm
thinking, and everyone's got me in a

tight box, when I go into the voting
booth, I'm going to vote for him.

The more politically correct?

The society is the greater,
the reaction formation is of

the orange man comes to town.

Why I support Trump is pretty easy.

He is the only president in
the last, probably 40 years

that has been for the people.

And, you know, I had an epiphany
at my first Trump rally.

I tell people that it was a
reconnection to my life because I

grew up in a blue collar situation
and I hustled my way to some dough,

went to Tufts and Harvard law school.

I worked at Goldman build two
successful hedge fund businesses

started to become independently wealthy.

And then what ends up happening is
you pick up the collective biases.

Of the people around you.

And so you don't really have
a good ear to the ground.

And so when I got to the first
Trump rally, I crossed the security

perimeter, went and started talking to
people and I was like, Oh my God, Mr.

Trump is talking to the
people I grew up with.

And these are people that
are economically desperate.

We went from a economically middle-class
and lower middle-class working

class aspirational society to a
desperation, all society in 35 years.

And I can explain what happened through
the forces of trade and globalism

and our mistakes about repositioning
manufacturing away from the United States.

All of those things that we did, some
of it accidental, some of it intentional

left a very large group of people
feeling very, very desperate about their

economic aspirations and their wellbeing.

And so that first Trump rally, I was like,
Whoa, there's a lot of people out here

that are in a lot of pain and I missed it.

They had the economic anxiety and they are
going to vote to reject the status quo.

It's a, it's an anger based vote.

And, uh, you have to work on
policy solutions to fix that.

You have to heal that because when
you create a breach in the social

fabric of the society, you create
a systemic rise of populism and

you get all of these unintended
or unexpected political outcomes.

I didn't see it myself.

But Trump saw it.

And so that's something you have to
give him credit for eras, a billionaire.

So you'd have to say this is a completely
out of touch dude, but he saw it.

I did not see it.

And I grew up with it.

So take a step back.

We racked up $18 trillion of debt.

We killed a million
people in the middle East.

We wounded 70,000 service men and
women, 7,000 service, men and women

have died and 22 are dying a day.

In the United States from suicide
related to post-traumatic stress,

our educational system K through
12 is completely uneven and broken.

Our infrastructure
completely failed and broken.

We have no industrial policy.

There's nobody in the United States as a
public servant that has a ten-year plan.

I don't even have a five-year plan.

So the American population is looking
at the situation and saying, wait a

minute, this is not working for me.

The stock market crashes.

And the very big bank is
about to go out of business.

The government sends them a
trillion dollars to protect them.

What about me?

And so people feel that the
system is rigged and the

system is unfair towards them.

You call these people deplorable,
white ethnocentric, white

nationalists, or whatever, those like
knuckle dragging misnomers, those

adjectives of attack on these people.

They tune you out.

You'd be better served going into those
areas of the country and listening to

them and saying, Hey, you know what?

I don't think you're a racist
or you're a white trash person.

I think you're a person that really just
wants your family to have a better life.

And as a public servant, I'm
going to try to come up with

policies that help you do that.

David axle rusted me.

Remember Anthony people
will vote for somebody.

They don't like they gave
Richard Nixon a landslide.

Nobody liked him.

They gave him a landslide.

If they don't like doing this, they don't
like voting for people that dislike them.

See the difference.

So you're standing at a podium,
calling people deplorable.

They're like, okay, give
my vote to the orange man.

Let's see how he does.

I think Trump speaks to people
in a really very good way.

He is appealing to people who are hurt.

Angry.

They feel bypassed, ignored
and not taken seriously.

The problem is that he doesn't
speak to the humanity of the

people who don't agree with him.

They're bringing drugs, they're bringing
crime, they're rapists, but building

that wall and it's going up very big.

If you have any racism in you.

Trump's going to let you bring it out.

I get to be a jerk again.

I get to be 1956

America.

Again, it's

not a racist.

There's not a racist.

This guy treats everybody like shit.

He is not a racist.

Okay.

It doesn't matter if you black,
white, lesbian, transgender.

He treats everybody the same.

Okay.

And he went to Elton
John's wedding Eastland.

He's an asshole.

That's different from being a racist.

And he's obviously an ass.

It's

so

sad that so many people.

I've let their worst side
come out through Trump.

Are you racing the least racist
person that you have ever.

I look at my African American over here.

Look at him.

Are you the greatest, you
know what I'm talking about?

I have a great relationship
with the blacks.

I have.

I've always had a great relationship
with a black, I love the old days,

you know, what they used to do
to guys like that when they were

in a place like this, they'd be
carried out on a stretcher folks.

I resisted.

For quite some time, the notion that
he is racist, it's more a function

of his narcissism than anything else.

It's not really racist.

That was sort of a way I viewed
Trump that he doesn't like

them because they oppose it.

And that's really what it's about.

It's all a function of his narcism.

And when he kind of says things that
were supportive of some of those bad

people at Charlottesville, that's again
a function of his narcissism because.

The people who were attacking
those people were attacking him.

I had a group on one side that was bad.

And you had a group on the other
side that was also very violent.

But you also had people that were
very fine people on both sides.

You had people in that group.

Excuse me, excuse me.

I saw the same pictures as you did.

Awesome.

You had people in that group that
were there to protest the, taking

down a statue, Robert Lee to them,
a very, very important statute.

My mother came from the Philippines.

She came to the United
States in the late 1950s.

So I'm half Filipino.

The other half is some mixture of Irish,
Scottish, you know, classic American mud.

I think of myself as an American and
I just assume people aren't racist.

And I tend to forget that well,
Some people are, and that sort

of the lesson with Trump is I
just gave him the benefit of it.

Now these are people that if they
don't like it here, they can leave.

But what he said about those
members of Congress, it brought

back that memory of the one time.

I really remember.

Wow.

There really are people like that.

Here I was with my mother.

When I was a teenager in a parking
lot in Massachusetts, when somebody

said to her, go back to your country,

sorry.

And I found that to be, and it
really, it came, it came home

to me that this man is a racist.

He is evil.

Democrat party is now being led
by four left-wing extremists to

reject everything that we hold.

Dear.

he's a racist beyond any question.

The first time I saw Trump at a rally.

Telling the crowd that he loved them,
but he also hated everybody else.

When I saw him leading them in a loyalty
of using emotions in that way, I realized

that this was not politics as usual.

Hello.

Do you swear that you're going to
vote for Donald Trump tomorrow?

Raise that.

I love you.

I love you.

He had talked about being president for
many, many years, uh, with his advisor

of the time, Steve Bannon, who is a
white nationalist and unabashed racist.

Steve Bannon considers himself
a student of history and he

likes to think that he knows.

Uh, the cycles of history and in
terms of resentment and racism,

and in this case, he was correct.

Italy in 1922, these marching
men are charter members of a

new Italian political party.

The fascists founded and led by a
flamboyant X editor ex army cop road,

ex socialist, but he's almost leaning
his movement numbers on million

members, including uniform black
shirts and miscellaneous successfully.

It bosses his leadership on
the Italian King on people.

Despite the fact that 80% of Italians
still support the constitutional monarchy

is threats of violence on revolution.

When him, the office of premier on
his first anniversary with the aid

of gunfire, kidnapping and castor
oil, he is absolute dictator.

At the time was Selena came on
the political scene in 1919,

Italy was eliminated democracy.

People had to vote, women could
vote and miscellany came in as a

revolutionary, as a rabble rouser
to completely shake things up.

But one of the most crucial
moments of authoritarian capture

is when traditional elites.

In fight.

The authoritarian in the making into
power fascism was a very violent movement.

The political establishment.

These traditional conservatives were
so frightened of the continuation

of the violence that they actually
invited him to become prime minister.

He was invited into the office and they
thought that he could be contained and he

would kind of do their dirty work and then
they could control him and tragically.

That was not to be.

He attacked the press.

He, he attacked, uh, democracy as
something that wasn't necessary.

He joked about having term limits,
removed arch enemy Jack Mazziotti.

The leader of the socialist party was
seen being taken away by fascist thugs.

Eventually his body was found, but it was
a huge outrage and a special investigation

was launched with a prosecutor.

And in the course of this mostly
needs career looked like it was over

and he was being asked to resign
and to end this, yes, he declared

a dictatorship in January, 1925.

He changed the special prosecutors.

The assassins were given light
prison sentences, and eventually

pardoned because dictators love to
pardon criminals and, uh, Italian

society was never the same again.

there are times in history when figures
appear, who are able to coalesce existing

hatreds and anxieties that exist in a
culture and form from them, a movement.

Through rallies through propaganda,
through promises to them, we

will be ending the AIDS epidemic
and curing childhood cancer.

Only.

They know the truth only
they can fix the problem.

We are finally putting America first.

My name is Cheryl COOs, and I'm
a historian of inner war, Europe

and fascism and authoritarianism.

Hitler gained his followers by
promising them a better life, a better

Germany, but he also had a scapegoat
use as diseased and foreign objects.

One of the most dangerous things
about authoritarian leaders is

that their particular personal
quirks, their obsessions, their

preoccupations often become state

policy.

And I think one of the manifestations
of that, that we've seen in

policy is the zero tolerance

policy immigration.

Is the fault and all of the
problems that we're having, you

look at what's happening in Europe.

You look at what's
happening in other places.

We can't allow that to
happen to the United States.

Not on my watch,

the separating of children from parents.

Think about the kind of mind
that the, I know how we're

going to restrict immigration.

Let's take their children away.

I mean, it's a cruel, almost
cartoonishly evil kind of thing to do.

Who's number one with Hispanics and Trump.

It's a violation of, of human rights
to take children away from their

parents to be so uncaring about the,
the permanent effect on these children.

And it is going to be permanent
is cruel and sadistic behavior.

It's completely different from saying, we
need to have strong borders or we need to

limit immigration or something like that.

Those things, if they are
worth doing can be done without

destroying children's lives.

One institution, my opinion, that hasn't
stood up to fit themselves at all our

Congress and the Republican party.

It's quite extraordinary that the
Republican party they're slotting

right into behavior in Italy, in the
1920s and Germany and early 1930s.

And so on.

I want to know who's the person
in the game to listen to.

Well, first the versus the game, then
this would lower the information.

Cause that's close to a five.

You know what?

We usually do the spies and Tracy
recently handled a little bit differently.

He does not believe in democracy the way
he rules in the white house shows that.

It reminded me of something I read by
Ivana Trump, uh, when he was married to

her and in their divorce proceedings, she
had written that he liked reading Hitler,

speeches, and Hitler speeches would always
build you up to this crescendo, right.

Of shouting and repeating
things three times.

Because if you repeat something three
times, it breaks through the audience

and it becomes a fat in their mind.

And I want you all to know that we are
fighting the fake news, fake phony fake

a few days ago, I call it the fake news,
the enemy of the people, and they are,

they are the enemy of the people, the big
lie technique that came from the Nazis.

So now we're faced with the same problem.

People say over and over and over again,
something which has never been true.

It's a lie basically, or it may be
a prejudice, but when you repeat it,

unless it's challenged quickly and
effectively, it becomes the norm.

It becomes accepted.

Wisdom, even though it's completely wrong.

Repeat everything three times.

The third time it becomes the truth.

He is capitalizing on the authoritarian.

Playbook is a way that these
kinds of men capture democracy.

After they get power, they
proceed to tame the judiciary.

They attack the press and the ultimate
aim is to get people to believe

that reality is what they say it is.

The fake news, right?

They're not about the greater good and
calling people to their better angels.

They're about fostering sense of
victimization and fear and how the

nation could be pure and how the nation.

Would be better without X, Y AMC elements
from all our people hail victory.

So is it

appropriate to compare Trump to,
I compare Trump to Hillary all the

time, and that makes people angry.

And I'm not going to stop doing it.

And I'll tell you why I'm not
going to stop doing it because

my father was a great historian
and student of Jewish history.

And he used to say to me all
the time, John, the meaning of

history is in the Holocaust.

We cannot be silent.

It's not that he's as bad as him or
that he's the equivalent of that,

but he has the same diagnosis.

He's in the same category.

That it's a psychological type that
can be more or less extreme, but they

share these common characteristics.

They're cut from the same cloth.

Those of us who have been raised
in this current era, we don't

realize how spoiled we've been.

We've been raised from the world
war II, boom of prosperity to today.

One of the greatest periods of peace
and prosperity in human history.

Um, and.

We've also taken it for granted
that our democracy was solid.

That liberal democracy is now becoming
the touchstone for the planet.

That's what we believe Greg years ago,
but Plato predicted thousands of years ago

that democracies always ended autocracy.

And we're so naive.

We don't understand that every
democracy is always vulnerable to being.

Taken over and turned into an autocracy.

We are in the third era.

Of the rise of charismatic,
threatening, strong men in history.

The first was during the fascist
period in the twenties and thirties,

uh, after world war two, you had
anti-colonial strong men like Mobutu

and Kadafi and today we have a new crop.

Of leaders who are threatening
liberal democracy or have

already partly destroyed it.

Trump has helped autocrats
all around the world.

Just, I mean, almost immediately
out of the box, early one in Turkey,

Turkey has the right to eliminate all
possible threats to its sovereignty

with or without its allies.

I'll CC in Egypt.

Whenever there is a minority trying to
impose their extremist ideology, we have

to intervene regardless of their numbers.

Even in Libya, they're backing the strong
man I'll have Tara is most important.

Aim is to take over the capital.

Of course, because the one who takes
over the capital is the one in power.

You have presidents like
both Sinero in Brazil.

Now these red outcasts will
be banished from our homeless.

It will be a cleansing, never
seen in Brazilian history.

You have strong men in the
Philippines, like Duterte kicked it

out of mass effect 3 million years.

No, there is 3 million, 3 million.

I'd be happy to Vladimir Putin.

Russia is actually fueling right-wing
extremist governments in Europe.

They're funding them AFD in
Germany, alternative for Deutschland

largest political party in
Germany fueled mainly by hatred

of liberalism in immigration.

These people are all fellow travelers now.

And as fellow travelers, they
all believe in the same thing.

And they believe that democracy is
a failed experiment and that the

polar axes of the world should shift.

We are in a battle for our
political and ideological lives.

What was America is now
under siege around the world.

This is a dangerous,
dangerous time for the world.

Are we moving to a time where
the 1930s have been forgotten?

And people are viewing it as
a template, not a warning.

The only way we can perpetuate a democracy
is by people sharing those values and

thinking that that is something to

be upheld.

I mean, Trump is a

symptom of a lot of things, including
a rise of a kind of ethno nationalism

and authoritarianism, but he's a symptom
who's become a very important cause if

the United States is standing against.

Ethno nationalist, sentiments and
authoritative and authoritarian

regimes around the world.

I think that puts a certain
amount of check on them with the

American president on their side.

It's a kind of exponential shot in the
arm for them and an exponential weakening

of liberal democracy around the world.

I actually go back to believe
it or not chimpanzees.

No.

When Jane Goodall was observing
chimpanzees, you know, one of the things

showed us is how loving they were,
you know, and how human they were.

And she bonded with them and formed
these relationships with them.

And then the males would come up, Pete
for dominance, you know, they pound

their chest and they throw dirt up in
the air and they'd throw heavy rocks.

And the river to show who is more
powerful, but no one ever really got

hurt was all called display behavior.

Just to sort of show who was the toughest
and that person would become the alpha.

What happened though after many years
is that troop that she observed became

so big that they split into two troops.

So everything she taught us about
chimpanzees is really what we

would call within group behavior.

It says nothing about
between group behavior.

Once the troops had split apart, a very
aggressive, charismatic, alpha male from

one of the groups would start beating
his chest and hooting and slapping the

other males and getting them excited.

And then he would start marching.

Towards the other group's territory
and the other males would follow him

and they would wait at the edge of the
territory for another male, maybe even

someone they were friends with when the
troop was one troop and they will barrel

down the Hill and beat that male to death.

And they'll do that systematically
until they're able to take over the

other groups, females, and their land.

Now think about this from an evolutionary
point of view, whose genes got to

move on the troop with the malignant
narcissistic leaders that let's

go kill all the other chimpanzees.

So,

this is very deep in our genetic
programming, and this is why

demagogues, like Trump are able to
be successful because before Trump,

we had fractures in our society, but
we had this overarching identity as

Americans, Donald Trump fractures it
and says, no, we're actually two troops.

And our troop is being
attacked by that troop.

And.

If we don't go over there and
beat the crap out of them,

they're going to destroy us.

And that is like a siren song to
the deep genetic programming in

the base of our animal brains.

Yes.

If somebody convinces us that other
troopers tried to kill us and I don't care

how bad my leader is, but he's the one
who's leading us to the edge of the truth.

So only one of us has got to survive.

Who cares if he's a
liar we want to survive.

And the only way we survive is by
attacking those other people, that

primitive programming is actually not.

Atypical.

They're not anomalous.

They're not unusual.

Humankind has been at war in
every place at every time.

Right.

And they've been horrible, you know,
in war to burning down villages, raping

women, torturing people, killing people.

That's actually normal
for the human animal.

Unfortunately it's the
psychology of power.

We all tend to fall behind
the powerful leader.

Out of self preservation and out of group
preservation, it's the natural instinct.

What are you most

fearful of about this precedent?

Nuclear war?

I mean, that's, that's the long term.

I mean, that's, that's the biggest
risk is that some, he gets in a

confrontation with a foreign leader,
North Korea, a worth with China.

Uh, where his ego's on the line
several months ago, uh, uh, a foreign

policy expert on the international
level went to advise Donald Trump.

And three times he asked about
the use of nuclear weapons.

Three times T asked at one point, if
we have them, why can't we use them?

North Korea best not make any
more threats to the United States.

They will be met with fire and fury.

The likes of which this world
has never seen before, uh,

president of the United States.

Even if he's being a showman
saying that we will bring

fire and fury to your country.

That is an implicit nuclear threat.

Donald Trump does not have the
temperament to be around these systems.

Welcome to the white house, this
ceremony and the treaty we're

assigning today are both excellent
examples of the rewards of patients.

It was 1987 and president Reagan and
Soviet leader Macau Gorbachev celebrated

the intermediate range, nuclear forces
treaty as calming cold war tension.

The inf scrapped thousands of ground
launch nuclear and conventional

missiles ranges of 300 to 3,400 miles.

Moscow and Washington have repeatedly
accused each other of violating the treaty

deal that helps to protect the security
of the U S and its allies in Europe.

And the far East Russia has condemned
president Trump's intention to withdrawal

from the pact, the deputy foreign minister
saying it would be a very dangerous step.

The president of the United States.

Is a nuclear Monarch.

He is a King, there are no safe guards
other than his whim that determines

when he launches an atomic bomb and
where the briefcase that he has, the

football is a communications device.

And all it does is authenticates
him to the nuclear arsenals

chain of command unlock code.

Enter Juliet.

Papa and it executes his order.

Once he has authenticated himself, Mark,

not one bombs going
multiple bombs are going.

So when you choose that option,
that missile will blow that

country up in 35 minutes.

And there is no turning it off
once they boost into space.

They're gone.

The president has the authority to order a
nuclear attack, including a first strike.

And, uh, it is extremely unlikely,
uh, that they, uh, military

command would not take his order.

The president can decide that
France is a national security threat

and he can order an ICBM strike.

That's not the correct procedure.

Screw that procedure.

I want somebody on the goddamn
phone before I killed 20

million paper.

We

have a launch order.

Put your hand on the keys, sir.

So what do you say to people
who say that Trump has a

bluffer he's strategic thinker.

He won't do this.

Are you willing to bet
your children's life?

Are you winning the bet, the lives
of every person in this nation on it.

And if you're willing to say that
about any person who will have a

logically lie to you to your face,
documentable, quantifiable, we lie

to you, your wife, your children on
a daily basis, then you don't really

understand what the stakes are.

We cannot allow that kind of
gamesmanship to continue this

man controls those weapons.

Don't think you can understand
Trump or much else of what's

going on in the world today.

Without factoring in the
effects of death, anxiety.

Are we doing what

we're doing for the reasons that we
claim, or could there be something

that lurks beneath the surface of

consciousness

in the denial of death Bakker argues
that it is our awareness that we

will inevitably die and our inability
to accept the reality of the human

condition with grace and courage.

That underlies almost
all human one activity

pointed out as that we're animals.

And we don't like that.

We're breathing pieces of deprecating
meat that aren't any more significant

or enduring than lizards or potatoes.

So if you think about
it, I'm going to die.

I could walk outside and
get smoked by a comment.

You wouldn't be able to
stand up in the morning.

You would literally be overwhelmed
by paralyzing existential

terror.

What we

do to bury that anxiety, to embrace
belief systems that Fife has meaning, and

we have value in a single word culture.

So the prevailing belief in the U S in the
last century is that, you know, America

is the home of the free in the brave.

Anybody

who works hard

enough can be the successful, uh,
as Oprah or bill Gates or Warren

buffet that we will always be the
world's foremost, economic as well.

As military power.

And so, you know, one of the first knees
in our psychological Bryan was nine 11.

When both our military and economic power

had been challenged,

then we get clobbered with the recession.

Combined with globalization combined
with demographic reality that by

the middle of the century, white
people will be in the minority.

And so for many Americans,
their worldview have been

completely upend.

So fast forward to 2015 Donald Trump
declares that he's running for president.

He comes down the escalator.

He's like Mexicans are rapists.

I'm going to keep you safe.

And I said to myself that guy's gonna win.

The American dream is dead,

but if I get elected president,
I will bring it back bigger

and better and stronger.

Than ever before and we will
make America great again.

Thank you.

Thank you, bruh.

When the psychological shit hits the
fan, if you'll pardon the expression

and when people are economically
and psychologically insecure, when

somebody comes along and confidently
proclaims in very simple terms.

Uh, that, uh, they will keep them safe.

They will make them prosper.

They will bring back the good old days.

That's the psychological hook.

If you look at it, you know,
from a detached perspective,

we're really at a crossroads, the
impending environmental apocalypse.

Juxtapose with simmering ethnic
tensions, juxtaposed with race,

but it's economic inequality.

Uh, and sure

we have Trump magnifying.

All of those difficulties.

What Trump also did masterfully was
to take non-existent problems and

render them potentially traumatic by
grotesquely overemphasizing, the danger.

Once you get on board
psychological, once you commit to

a demagogue dish, ideal log, that

puts up a fact proof

screen between you and the world.

Once you are

fully onboard, there is no

rational argument that
will alter your opinion.

There is always a tendency for
charismatic leaders to bring

out the tribal nature of humans.

It is very easy to lapse into
an us versus them mentality.

Rationality will lose every time.

Where is the red line?

Where do you say, okay, Hey, no Moss.

I'm not supporting this guy anymore.

Where is the line?

So it's obviously been crossed
by many people before for me, the

line would be when you look at
our documents and you look at our

constitution, North Korea, Russia,
Venezuela has the exact same language.

Go look at their constitution.

They have the same flowery
language related to human

rights and all of that stuff.

But what makes us unique is the checks
and balances and the power diffusion

in the construction of the government.

So if Trump starts to trample on
that, then I'm going to turn out,

have to you can't disrupt a 243 year
experiment for one dude's personnel.

It has now been a week since the
centers for disease control confirmed

the first community transmission of
coronavirus in the United States.

We all have personalities.

Some people are more dependent.

Some people are more aggressive.

It becomes pathological.

When you see the whole world
through a screen that makes

everything fit your need.

Now the Democrats are
politicizing the coronavirus.

It's not just being manipulative.

It's a fundamental, inability to not
be that way in this big, vast land

of ours is great country of ours.

We have 240 cases.

Most of those people are going to be fine.

Donald Trump doesn't care about experts.

So weigh in on this issue
of hydroxychloroquine.

What, what do you think about this and
what does it need to be a fifth doctor?

15 times.

He only cares about people who will
tell him what he already wants to hear.

He makes himself ignorant about
almost everything, because he only

wants to hear what he wants to hear.

We have it so well under control.

I mean, view this the same as
the flu, when somebody sneezes,

I mean, I try and bail out as
much as possible, and I haven't

touched my face in weeks and weeks.

I miss it.

And one of the most devastating things
he's been doing is to emotionally

train Americans, not to care about
others, to extinguish, compassion,

extinguish kindness in themselves.

He terms it being tough.

He is giving people a license
to hate, uh, to provide a source

of anger to go after each other.

How are we all tolerating?

This?

Loyalty is not blind obedience
unless you're supporting a demagogue.

Okay.

And so you don't want to ever
be like that in your life.

Relax.

You're doing great.

The Dow is now down nearly 900 points.

Economists have been ramping
up their projections, the virus

spreading explosively, like

quote, a

bomb to be president.

You have to exercise good
judgment on behalf of the American

people for their interests.

I have to go back to work.

Our country has to go back.

Our country is based on that.

I think it's going to
happen pretty quickly.

It's got nothing to do with
the safety of the people.

It's about him.

It's not about the country.

He spent a lot of time on Twitter today.

Boasting about the excellent
television ratings.

His news conferences have received lately.

We have Monday night football type ratings
and that these are like, Bachelor finale.

He's not fit because he is unable to
think he could only react and attack.

What do you say to Americans who are
watching you right now or scared?

I say that you're a terrible reporter.

That's really bad reporting is unfit
to be president because he cannot sing.

The U S is surpassing
Italy as the country.

With the most

fatalities, he says he wants to
reopen the country with a big

bang pursuing truth is to
the mind like food is to the

body without pursuing truth.

Your psyche starves and Trump's psyche
has been starving for a long time.

Say, sir, what

metrics

you will use to make that,
uh, the metrics right here.

If we can hold that down between
a hundred and 200,000, uh, we all

together have done a very good job.

I am very proud to be a precedent.

Thank you very much.

Thank you everybody.

He's detached from reality.

I mean, this is just demented.

fathers always knew that a King like IRA
would try to rule as a personal dictator

and use the powers of the presidency
to enhance or enrich himself, but

they never foresaw the Senate and the
judiciary might completely abdicate their

responsibilities and go along with that.

The natural tendency of history
in many ways is towards greater

liberalism and altruism.

But human nature has
these competing forces.

And so what we're seeing now is
this amazing regression, right?

From where we were, we are
literally going backwards.

I think a century or two, we all
have to do everything that we

can do because our society is at
risk and we could lose it all.

We could lose this.

Grand experiment in democracy.

I think we're more than halfway there.

I think people don't realize how
far this has actually progressed

when you're in a period of
rising authoritarianism.

It's very easy to get exhausted
because the news comes at you

like bullets from a machine gun.

All of it bad.

One of the best weapons
against authoritarianism

is protests in the street.

And protests are key because not only
does the leader see that he's unpopular,

but even more important, his allies see
that the public is actually against them.

Think of what you tell your kids.

You tell them to be honest, you
tell them to tell the truth.

Tell them don't think of yourself.

Don't brag, don't trash other
people to make yourself feel good.

How can you support Donald Trump?

How can you support somebody who
centrally violates all of the

things that we want them to follow?

He makes no sense.

It's corrosive for them.

It's croesor for you.

It's corrosive for the country.

This is a phenomenal, phenomenal country.

It's one of the most unique
historical experiments in the

5,500 years of recorded history.

We have to figure out a way to
help people and bring them into

the new world of globalization.

They have to feel like they're part of
the aspirational success of America.

That our parents felt, I believe at
our best that we have the capacity to

radically reconceptualize who we are
and the extent to which the wheat can

accept our commonality as human beings.

I think therein lies the key
because then there's no one left

to hate and that's not
going to stop us from

hating.

But as Ernest Bakker, put it, maybe
we can hate stuff that we should

like poverty and injustice, and
maybe we can then use righteous

indignation to everybody's best name.

Okay.

okay.