The Underground (2017) - full transcript
What has the government been hiding just beneath your feet?
As we mentioned Donald Trump today
called for more and
more military spending.
More troops, more ships,
more submarines, more planes.
Didn't say how big the increase
in military spending would be,
but he did throw out a lot of numbers
in justifying the increase.
And look at this, almost
600 billion in spending there,
almost as much as all the other
nine of the top 10 combined Anderson.
The Pentagon has secured
a 630 billion dollar budget
for next year, even though
it's failed to even account
for the money it's received
since 1996,
A daunting 6.5 trillion
dollars of taxpayer cash
have gone to defense programs,
none of which has been
audited and this black budget
has sparked concerns over
political fraud.
The Reuters investigation
says since 1996
the Pentagon has spent
8.5 trillion dollars
in taxpayer money that has
never been accounted for.
One thing I found very
interesting in this report
is that the Pentagon
apparently uses
standard operating procedure
to enter false numbers
or so-called plugs to cover
lost or missing information
in their accounting in order
to submit
a balanced budget to the treasury.
So they can write in everything.
I mean that's probably the
most shocking part of this
is that they get to the end
of the day
and they say oh there's money missing,
what do we do?
Well we'll just put a number
in there
that says it's there and
we'll sort it out later.
I mean again, this is the
type of operating practice
that if you did it in your
own business,
if you tried to do it with your
own taxes for the government
they'd haul you off to jail.
What is the Pentagon's
black budget being used for?
Weapons, defense?
This is the story of one
military family's
extraordinary claims.
Claims that could be found
true in a hidden reality.
I'm Phil Schneider.
I spent 17 years in black
budget programs.
I'm a government geologist,
I was an engineer,
structural engineer with
aerospace applications.
Self-taught metallurgist.
In working with the black projects,
I was involved in something
very controversial,
almost totally unbelievable
to most of you,
but I was involved in
building another base
inside of Dulce, New Mexico
which is Los Alamos Laboratory.
In the southwest part
of the Archuleta Mesa.
We were in the process of the
early stages
of building, we drilled four
large tunnel-like holes.
Some of them ran 2 1/2
miles under the surface.
Anyway after we drilled all
four holes,
took about two days to
drill all four of them,
and when you build an
underground base,
you drill four basic holes
and you build
called stokes or cross member
holds across
and then you use blasting equipment.
Yeah you literally blast out
or tunnel out
or deflagrate or melt rock out.
The equipment kept coming up broken.
So we wanted to send somebody
down there,
a human observer or human
observers in this case
and find out what was going on.
When I saw Green Beret
and Black Beret people
in camp,
inside of our geologist camp
I knew something was up,
the gig was up.
In this process, I was
lowered down the basket
of one of these holes and
about from me
to this elderly woman here in
the front,
was sitting a seven foot tall
alien gray,
the stench was worse than
the worst garbage can
you can imagine.
I didn't waste any time,
I reached for my pistol.
At that time I was an engineer.
I didn't have time to carry
all the full
or one of these big
submachine guns
at all the seize and the
yellow fruit
on the outer perimeter and
inner perimeter
security people carried.
I carried an old Walther PBK
pistol with a nine shot clip.
Plus you're in almost like
a spacesuit environment
and you're reaching for a gun,
it's not the easiest thing to do
and then to pop a clip in it
and start shooting.
And I killed two of them.
Yes they're mortal and they
do die.
However, in the process,
one of them did this.
All I remember is that he
just kind of waved his hand
in front of his chest
and the next thing I know
this blue beam hit me and just
literally opened me up like
a fish.
It was some form of
electrical force
because kind of like being
hit by lightning bolt,
burned all my toenails off of me
and there was a Green Beret
that was right behind me,
but he risked his life, he
shoved me back in the basket
and hit the button and took
me up.
And I wouldn't be alive
talking to you today
if it wasn't for him,
so I'm forever indebted.
He lost his life.
66 secret service agents,
Green Berets, Black Berets,
crack troops lost their
lives because the government,
our United States government lied,
did not tell us anything
about the alien threat.
There's a war underneath there
and I'm talking dead serious.
The large alien grays
had been in camp there
for as best as believed possible
about four or 500 years.
It had been one of their
internal bases,
and we drilled holes right on
top of it.
All the stink and air,
all the black, sooty air
came right out as soon as
the first hole was sunk
and all this soot came up and well,
that's when all the
hell broke loose really.
How it started.
I have a picture of one of
the aliens
been working for the
United States Pentagon
for the last 58 years.
His name is Val, Val Valiant Thor.
He's right here.
There's my father in the background.
This whole place, the ready
room of the USS Eldridge,
Al Bilika has probably explained
or maybe even shown you this picture
and it's a list of the, some
of the notable people in it
and they're all the atomic
bomb scientists of the day.
All the time variant
experimentalists of the day,
all the top physicists
of that particular day.
This was in August of 1943.
Phil Schneider gave
most of his lectures in 1995.
He gained a following speaking
around the United States,
telling people about
his alleged experiences.
Phil claimed that he
personally knew people
who also worked in black
budget programs
who were murdered,
and that most of them
were made to look like a suicide.
11 of my best friends in the
last 22 years have been murdered.
Eight of them called suicides.
I finally got wind of one of them.
Portland Police is now
involved in one of them.
Murder by suicide they call it.
On August 6, 1993 two years
before his lectures
one of Phil's best friends,
Ron Rummel
was found dead in
St. Macleay Park in Oregon.
He had suffered a fatal
gunshot wound to the head
and a gun was found nearby.
Police ruled it as suicide,
but Phil and many others
strongly believed that he was murdered.
Ron Rummel was best known for
publishing The Alien Digest,
a newsletter filled with
stories and testimonies
regarding the UFO coverup.
Author Ron Rummel was
about to publish a book
revealing what he believed
to be the real purpose
of the Star Wars project
when his body was found
here in Macleay Park in
Portland, Oregon.
His death was ruled suicide,
but few agree with that verdict.
As far as the police and the FBI
are concerned it's case closed.
Unfortunately there's the
shocking thing
that his murderer,
I believe his murderer
is still out there at large.
Why is it you're speaking out?
There have been enough lives taken
under the premise of
suicide when they were
actually very stable individuals,
always had, they had families
and they had lives to look
forward to
and they had every reason to live
and if there is some form
of conspiracy out there
then the more people that are talking,
might end up saving lives in
the long run.
My friend Ronald Lee Rummel
was an Air Force officer,
he was a silver star winner.
There's a good chance that
when I fly back to Reno,
excuse me,
to Vegas I have to drive home.
I left my car down in Vegas.
I have to drive home alone.
I'm scared to hell.
On January 17, 1996
after not being seen
for at least five days,
Phil Schneider was found
dead in his apartment
by his landlord and a detective
from the Clackamas
County Sheriff's Office.
The autopsy report listed the
cause of death as unknown,
but it was later discovered
that Phil
was actually strangled
by his own catheter hose.
Was this a case of negligence,
or a cover-up?
I, there's a number
of you ladies present
so I won't gore you out
but Al has seen some of the wounds
and there's a few other people
that have been to a few
of my other lectures
and they can attest that
I have been shot.
I've been run off the road.
I've been pushed off the road.
This is an account of Phil's death,
a case that reeks of suspicion,
neglect of duty,
and disregard for human dignity.
The first official police report
defines Phil's cause of death
to be from natural causes.
On January 16, 1996, deputy
officer McLeland is alerted
by a suspicious apartment manager
that he has not seen Phil for weeks.
Upon first investigation when
entering Phil's apartment,
officer McLeland finds
Phil's body beside his bed,
with his face lying in the
seat of his own wheelchair.
Medical and forensic examiner
Mr. Coleman
chooses not to respond to the
crime scene.
At this point, Phil had been
dead for three to four days.
January 17, his body is then
whisked away to a funeral home.
January 18, Mr. Took calls
from the funeral home
to alert the police that he
has found a catheter cord
wrapped around Phil's neck.
This leads to the starting
of detective Haggin's
investigation on the same day.
Haggen seems to be the only
one interested
in following up this case honestly.
He calls medical examiner Coleman
and segeant Joyce who
both elect not to respond.
Upon further investigation,
while interrogating deputy McLeland,
the deputy recalls the
catheter cord
being near Phil's neck at
the scene of the crime.
It is concluded in this report
that the only person who
could have
been around Phil at this time
was a woman
from the Oregon Senior
and Disabled Services.
Other things recovered from
the scene of the investigation
were seven pill medications.
Detectives Harris and Kennell
are then assigned to the case.
An autopsy is to be held by
Dr. Gunson on January 19.
This was requested as well
by Cynthia, Phil's late wife.
The autopsy report surmises Phil's
cause of death by
asphyxiation ruled a suicide.
Recovered stomach material
showed no signs of pills.
Furthermore, blood and urine
are placed
on a three month hold,
only to be reported as lost
when Cynthia calls after
the given time has passed.
The catheter cord is described
as being wrapped around the
neck once
and then tied from the front,
very tight.
Now, you must ask yourself
how can Phil
be found dead via strangulation
with his face in the seat
of his own wheelchair?
Is this something that he
could do himself
without taking any form
of medical assistance
in order to sedate?
What do we have here?
Is this a clean cut case of suicide?
Or could there likely be foul play?
Could this be a case of murder
by suicide?
This case was determined on
January 19 as death by suicide
which is further indicated
on his death certificate.
But something of even more
suspicion appears in this case.
In the Oregonian obituaries,
a statement is given
not by Cynthia, that
he died from a stroke.
So what happened here?
Trying to get some
samples of Phil, my dad
and my mom.
They were suddenly missing,
mysteriously missing.
And did, what did they say?
They were just as surprised
as you were?
Yeah, oh we don't have those samples.
It's like they
never did or they just
or just didn't even know.
They said we'll hold them for
a year.
Mom came back, 11 months
before the due date, you know.
Or you know there's one month
until the,
they would not hold them anymore.
And they suddenly didn't have
'em anymore.
Yeah.
Let's get right down to it.
When you're dealing with
something of the magnitude
what it appears to be,
that is the presence of
a variety of non-humans here
on Earth
that are here for some sort
of agenda
and everything else that
goes along with that
including possible collaboration
by various human groups but then
this is obviously incredibly
explosive material
and so it goes without saying
that the intelligence agencies,
the deep black agencies,
black ops groups that are
involved in this
would need to keep this
as quiet as possible.
They would have to, for
their own preservation.
So in other words secret becomes
the ultimate goal for this
and that means secrecy in
theory forever, forever.
Secrecy forever.
If there are leaks that are
going to come out about this,
you have to find a way
to disable those leaks.
Either by disabling the information
or the individual behind it.
Doesn't have to be by killing them.
It could be by ruining their reputation,
by discrediting them
in one way or another.
That's just as good.
Certainly one thing that we
know in the last 60, 70 years
is that assassination techniques
have become very, very sophisticated.
Very sophisticated.
The art of suiciding someone,
that is killing them
making it be a suicide.
This is widespread.
It's been widespread for many years.
During the days of the Cold War
the KGB was very good at this.
To this day, you're not gonna
get the CIA to admit it,
but we know that this happened.
It happened in the case of a
fellow named
Frank Olson in 19, the early 1950s.
He was a biological warfare expert
who was given LSD without his knowledge
by a CIA friend.
Long story short, he was
taken to a large hotel
in New York City, the tenth floor
and was thrown out the window.
Made it seem like a suicide,
it was no suicide.
Olson was killed.
Because he'd become a
security risk.
This is a game.
So back to our scenario here
of multiple non-human groups
with possible human alien
interaction going on,
this is a secret that has to
be kept
from their point of view.
And anyone who threatens that
secrecy has got to be handled
whether by discrediting that person
or failing all else,
by killing them.
Upon examination, it seems easy
to accept the theory that
Phil was a victim of homicide
but what does that mean for
his claims
of aliens living underground?
Years after Schneider's death,
other claims of a joint human
alien base
underneath Dulce, New Mexico
are surfacing left and right.
The book UFO Highway by
Anthony Sanchez
is essentially transcripts of interviews
with a person only known as
Colonel X
who supposedly worked inside
this facility
and is known to believe that
Phil Schneider was really there.
Shows like History Channel's
UFO Hunters
have even visited the
area looking for clues.
It's a 14 mile underground tunnel
that goes under that mountain there.
Yes.
Even Jesse Ventura's
Conspiracy Theory
on TruTV paid a visit to the
alleged location of the Dulce base.
Do they?
Yeah.
Some other pretty credible sources
for alien activity in the
Archuleta Mesa
include the high number
of Apache Native Americans
who have some pretty insane stories
of strange happenings in the area.
Rumor has it there is a
secret base
hidden underneath the
Archuleta Mesa here.
The mountain overlooks Dulce.
Some people in town say
the base is run by aliens
working with our federal government
to conduct mind control
and genetic experiments.
Do you believe that?
Yeah.
A whole bunch of people seen it,
you know.
The ground opened up,
steam coming out of it.
Geri Julian says she had her first
extraterrestrial encounter
right here,
on her Dulce ranch about 40
years ago.
It was huge.
I just saw the bottom of it,
you know it was like flat
like this.
Many of her neighbors
claim similar, strange sightings.
Fat in the middle and kind
of like rounded on the sides.
You're speechless you know?
You just don't know what to think.
Sometime in the seventies,
things changed.
That's when cows started
turning up mutilated.
They just cut out in between
the legs right here.
We seen one.
I know it's not a
predator that's doing it.
There's, someone's doing it.
Local police never
definitively said
who's to blame.
Locals say it has to be
something out of this world.
They say they know it sounds crazy.
I'll submit to a lie detector
test or anything you know?
To be fair,
at this point we have to also
play devil's advocate with
Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims.
It is entirely possible that
he simply
heard about the tales of
UFOs and underground bases
in the Archuleta Mesa area
and made up
his own story based on those stories.
In order to at least make an attempt
at finding out if he was
telling the truth or not,
we must first know who Phil
Schneider was.
I kind of knew about Phil.
Lee and I had met him through the
Oregon Agate and Mineral
Society in Portland, Oregon
and I had been a past
president of the society.
Had about 500 members.
So you know it was a large
group of people
who came together every other week
to study rocks and minerals.
What year was this?
1985.
Philip grew up in a
navy, armed forces family
'cause he was all over
places with his dad.
So let's see, while he was young
I think they also went to London.
It was in the early fifties, 1950s.
So he was in London and I think
that's when Oscar was working
in NATO.
He was doing a lot of
armed force work in NATO,
but he kind of knew that his dad
was doing a lot of top secret
things later on in life.
I'd like to also mention
something about my father.
My father was a U-boat
captain in Hitler's navy.
He was captured by the French,
turned over to the third army,
the US third army
and then US third army
turned him over to the navy
and he was a master machinist.
Now that's not a journeyman,
a master means
they can take a block
of metal and make a gun
or a watch or some other fine instrument.
He was a master machinist,
he later became an MD doctor
in part of the aerospace
medicine group
of the United States Navy.
Was instrumental in helping
build the USS Nautilus
and its predecessor the Enterprise,
first nuclear powered
aircraft carrier
and other ships like it.
Phil's father, Oscar Otto Schneider
was also involved in government
secrecy and black projects.
In the 1990s, during Phil
Schneider's lecture tour
across the United States,
he was known
to carry many documents and pictures
providing evidence to certain testimony
about controversial subjects
he would be discussing.
Furthermore there were four documents
which Phil carried with
him on lecture tour.
These documents were allegedly
owned by Oscar Schneider
while he was in office working
for the United States Navy
in the 1950s.
During this time, the rumored
Philadelphia Experiment
took place and perhaps these
documents are the smoking gun
that prove in fact the
Philadelphia Experiment did occur.
The first document
details an autopsy report
on one of the crew members
from the Philadelphia Experiment.
One of the letters that Oscar
wrote about the autopsy
of the Philadelphia
Experiment crew member,
Items that he was pulling
out of the back of their eyes
and their arms and their legs
these little things that
looked like transistors.
That's exactly what they were.
They were little surveillance items
that were placed into the bodies
of the Philadelphia
Experiment crew members.
In this letter, it is addressed
to lieutenant Nathan F. Twining.
Oscar seems to report on the vessel
which Twining's staff
couldn't find.
Furthermore, it includes an
order from J. Edgar Hoover
to have all personnel undergo
psychological testing.
The third letter addresses
Edward Condon.
Edward Condon is well
known for his involvement
explaining away all UFO phenomenon
as simply optical illusions.
However in this letter,
Oscar seems to be
reporting to Edward that seven
Philadelphia Project experiencers
had escaped from a psych ward
that Oscar
was holding and testing them at.
He goes on to say that J. Edgar
had declared the incident
classified as a
1A prime directive, possibly meaning
something in regards to a top
secret security clearance,
finishing this letter with a reference
to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer.
This is significant because
Nikola Tesla
has always been known to be involved
with the design of the
machine which would create
the fabled Philadelphia
Experiment's invisible technology.
Condon, having been known
most notoriously
as the leading UFO debunker
of his time
paved the way for secrecy and coverups
in this realm that we study today.
The fourth and final letter
Oscar Schneider writes again.
In consideration of the latent facts
considering the fate of
the USS Farenseth DE-173,
all ships, personnel, and material
must be quarantined absolute
until further notice.
No exceptions.
An on site naval inspection
is ordered forthwith
as bureau of ships reticent requirements
in section 93A.
Please include DE-173's ship's log
to admiral Roscoe Hillenkoult, USN.
Consider them and all events
of nature above secret.
See class ARH-9 project Blue Sky.
Oscar Schneider, captain, USN.
At this point it appears that
Phil Schneider's father Oscar
was very likely involved
in classified operations
that involved top secret technologies.
But what about his son Phil?
What do we really know about
his work?
I would say late sixties,
he started his work and
I have social security records
under the wrong social
security number
and I think this was how the
black ops
get away with a lot of things
is they put you under the
wrong social security number
so you can't prove your
work history with them.
But I can prove that under
the wrong
social security number he
worked for Morrison-Knudsen
which is a contractor,
a civilian contractor
that works for the army or
the navy.
He did some work at Trojan Nuclear
and after that, by the early 1980s
he was applying for SSI.
So I know by the early
1980s his career is done.
He's so injured that he
cannot do any more work
and his memory is like
totally lost
as to what he did before.
It wasn't until after we got married
that he got good medical care
and stopped taking the medications
he was taking when I first
met him
that he started to
remember all of the things
that are now on the internet.
Hello Marie.
Hi.
Want a Squirt?
Lots of food and soft drinks.
There ya go.
So tell me when did Phil
start telling you about
his past and his work?
It was soon after he kept saying
that he had to take Dilantin
to prevent seizures.
But I noticed when he took Dilantin,
he would have a seizure.
It was the other way around.
It was actually killing him
and it was disrupting him
emotionally, physically,
so much that he
didn't have much of a memory
of anything in his past.
And then after we were married
he got really good medical care.
It slowly started to come back.
I mean it was like, he
would even say to me
gee I hope you don't think
I'm lying
because I'm just remembering this
but wow, you know these
things start coming up
and I just suddenly remember
what's really happened.
But that's really when it started.
When Oscar died,
it might have been '94.
Phil went down into his basement,
and found a file cabinet full
of stuff
that was just unbelievable.
And he showed me most of that.
I mean I saw the original envelopes
with the original paperwork
that had the drawings on it.
I saw the original photographs
with the stamps on the back
from the Navy.
I mean it was all real stuff.
This is not faked.
He shared so much with me,
even though we were divorced
at the time.
So I saw all this stuff that
came out of the file cabinet,
but he'd been talking
to Ron about it a lot.
They were doing a little alien
magazine, a little digest.
And then his dad died and he found
all this stuff in the basement.
Well Ron was murdered that
same year,
and that infuriated him.
As Philip grew up he went to
Lincoln High School here in Portland
'cause I have a transcript
of his senior high school,
so that was pretty normal
except it does indicate
on that transcript that
he had an IQ of 163.
So I know Phil told me that
before he had his medical issues
he could speak 11 languages
and I believe that
because he was suddenly
in the middle of the night
sleeping together he would suddenly
start rattling off different languages,
so this is all though in his sleep.
He consciously couldn't remember
how to speak those languages,
but in his sleep unconsciously
he could still connect with
some of it.
First of all the idea
of underground bases
and underground civilizations,
this is actually this is a
very old idea in human history
you know going back thousands
of years
you've got ancient tribes
around the world
that have made these claims.
We would say they were myths,
but that there are secret caverns,
secret races, secret tribes
that exist under the ground
and really when one talks about
for example hollow earth theory,
that's a lot of what
they're talking about here.
But not all hollow earth theorists
say that the entire Earth is hollow.
A lot of them will say that
there are just substantial
caverns under the ground where
there are civilizations
that are down there.
So that's an old idea.
You get it in a lot of Asian European
I think like the Germans
have the tradition.
You have Native Americans
have this tradition.
The Tibetans may have the
most extensive
tradition of this for all I know.
On South America traditional
tribes had this as well,
so the idea in the Tibetan tradition
from what I have understood about it
is that there are different races
below the surface of the Earth
including reptoid or
reptilian races
that are supposedly from
other worlds.
I'm not making this up.
So that by itself is interesting
and you might ask why
do all of these disparate
civilizations have these
kinds of ideas, and I don't
have an answer to that.
But I can tell you
that's an old, old idea.
Dolan goes on to explain
the supposed connection
between the Nazis
and Tibetan hollow earth theories.
What you really get
into the 20th Century
where Nazis and their predecessors
let's just call them the
Thule Society
which was a kind of a mystical sect
that the Nazis really drew a
lot out of
in forming their own ideology.
The Thule Society was very interested
in Tibetan myths about
openings into the earth.
This idea of deep underground tunnels,
bases, crisscrossing the world.
And since this was a Tibetan idea,
we have to presume that
the Nazis themselves
were familiar with this idea
as well.
There's no question that the secret
underground bases do exist,
and by the way it's not only
the military of the United States
or other countries you know
who are making
these underground and
also undersea facilities.
Other agencies and
organizations do it as well.
All that is needed is the
requisite will,
funding, expert personnel,
and technology.
In the early to mid 20th Century,
you had the French of
course who constructed
the Maginot Line in eastern France
to guard against German
invasion in World War II.
There was a military civil
engineering organization
in the Third Reich called
the Todt Organization.
And it was named after Fritz Todt.
Fritz Todt was a brilliant
civil engineer.
He was the father of the
German Autobahn System.
During the World War II period,
Adolf Hitler asked Fritz Todt
to lend his
engineering expertise to the
military program of the
Third Reich, which he did.
He established an engineering agency
which was called the Todt Organization.
Now Fritz Todt died in
a plane crash in 1942,
and one of his deputies named
Xaver Dorsch
took over control of the agency.
I did find a couple of
project Paperclip memos
from 1947 that specifically
requested Xaver Dorsch by name
to be brought to the United States
to work on the United States military's
underground plant construction program.
The American military certainly
was well aware of who
Xaver Dorsch was
and his expertise.
In his day he was probably
the preeminent authority
on underground base construction,
whether in Germany or
in the United States.
Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina
but they're not from an
ancient civilization.
They're reportedly connected
with the Nazi regime.
According to an article
in the New Zealand Herald
a secret bunker was found
which appears
to have been planned for
members of the Nazi party
to use as a hideout after
losing the war and fleeing to
South America.
I had people tell me that
some of the bases
are as deep as 10, 12, 14
miles down.
Okay so if they're one mile deep,
how would they make that?
Like can you state possibly
a piece of technology
that you came across say in
documents you were
researching or?
Oh yes, oh yes.
Since at least the 1950s, the
mining and civil engineering
industries have had the capability
to sink major shafts straight down.
One even two miles or more,
and then to tunnel out from
the bottom of these shafts
whether for mining purposes
or for tunnel complexes.
One of the most common forms
is to use
a very hard cutting edge on
the tunnel boring machines
that rotate,
would be like a huge version
of the drills used in
petroleum industry
or natural gas industry to drill
very deep underground burrows.
I've heard theories
of also nuclear power drills.
Yes, I cite this
technology in my first book.
These are called subterrains.
Subterrains are nuclear powered.
They use a small fission
nuclear reactor.
The nuclear reactor is
contained within the machine.
The research and design was done
at Los Alamos National
Laboratories back
during the 20th Century
and there were some patents
granted to the research
team at Los Alamos.
If they are in use,
they are being used
clandestinely in great secrecy.
Could you also maybe lend to
the audience
some examples of real
underground facilities?
The most famous one
would be under Cheyenne
Mountain in Colorado
which used to be the NORAD headquarters.
Now it's a backup dormant base,
but that'd be the most famous
one I guess.
It's appeared in many movies.
It is large, it is
sophisticated, it's deep.
Then you also have the
famous FEMA underground base
beneath Mount Weather
in northern Virginia.
It's run by FEMA, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency.
It's also quite deep,
sophisticated, large.
This so-called site R complex
that is the Pentagon's
alternate command center
which is underground
on the border between
Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Then of course you have the
well known Area 51 facility.
There's been quite a lot of
underground excavation done there.
Many people have spoken
about facilities out there.
Yes sir.
Let's go back to the
so-called area 51
because in people's minds when
you say I can't talk about it
because it's classified,
conjures up
oh there it is,
there's the cover-up.
Can you give us any hint
without violating any sense of
confidential nature what kinds
of things might be happening?
Sir I cannot, forgive me.
I just do not know.
Is there anyone
in the Air Force that can?
I'm gonna have to defer
that to public affairs.
It's outside of my area of expertise.
Do you believe in UFOs?
Firstly no sir.
Why not?
Ma'am I have no reason to
believe that they're real.
And then there are other ones
that are perhaps less well known.
The NSA in Laurel, Maryland
which is at Fort Meade.
Now Fort Meade is an armed facility
but the NSA is actually
the major activity there
and there are just literal acres,
multiple acres of supercomputers
beneath Fort Meade
that go down and down and down.
I have been told 20 levels,
maybe more
and then Los Alamos National
Lab in northern New Mexico.
Then you have Camp David in Maryland.
Many people are familiar
with Camp David as
a United States presidential retreat
where presidents often
helicopter to
for rest and relaxation,
but less commonly known
is there is a massive
underground facility
that spreads out for miles.
In the route to the
first war against Iraq,
Bechtel built three deeply buried
sophisticated underground
facilities in Saudi Arabia.
They were used during the war,
the first war.
Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf
who was
the American military commander
spent most of that war
underground in Saudi Arabia.
And the Chinese,
it has come to light
that the Chinese have
constructed something like
3,000 miles of underground tunnels
to house their nuclear arsenal.
What is, what's the benefit
of building all of these bases
in and around the world?
What is it for?
Is it for keeping things secret,
and what are they keeping secret?
Is it for keeping things
away from the public?
Is it also for protection in
some way?
Could you elaborate on that?
Yes to all of that.
All of those are considerations.
The motivation for going deep underground
and or deep undersea is often
driven by
concerns of security and secrecy.
Weapons production and
storage happens underground
whether for nuclear
weapons or other kinds.
This has been going on ever
since the World War II period.
It looks almost like
a scene from an action movie.
Dozens of ballistic
missile launching systems
inside a gigantic cave.
But the video shows Iran's
Missile Program
is very real and very big,
as the head of the elite
revolutionary guards
aerospace division says.
The missiles in various
ranges are mounted
on launchers in all bases
and are ready to be launched
he told an Iranian state
TV reporter and added
that is if enemies make a mistake.
You also have
scientific research
facilities underground.
The CERN supercollider on the border
of Switzerland and France
would be a good example.
That one is very publicly
known and discussed.
There are other underground
research facilities
including like Area 51 and elsewhere
that operate much more
out of the public eye.
There are many rumors about clandestine
extraterrestrial facilities
both underground and undersea,
and a growing number of people
have come forward over the years
with ample accounts of having seen
and or been taken into such facilities
by a variety of reasons.
Both by extraterrestrials and also
by shadowy elements of the
United States military,
by clandestine units.
I do take these stories seriously.
I do believe that these
types of facilities exist.
One of the big reasons
that they would be here
and underground again,
for secrecy, for security,
and for purposes of communication,
command, and control.
The same reasons that the
United States military
builds underground bases.
Secrecy, how corporations
and military rule the underworld.
I've spent years going
through heaps
of technical documentation
in the military industrial complex
and Morrison-Knudsen is one
of those
that would pop up in the bibliographies.
Companies like Parsons
Brinckerhoff, William Douglas,
Kiewit, Black and Veatch.
Of course you have the
two military agencies,
the Army Corps of Engineers
which is definitely involved
in constructing underground
bases and tunnels.
It has been for more than
half a century.
You also have the US Navy
Seabees who also work
in underground and undersea construction.
Those would be two of the
lead military agencies,
but there are large
corporations that are involved.
The Bechtel Corporation is one.
Then you have the tunnel
boring machine companies
such as the Robbins Company.
A number of these
companies which for decades
have worked very closely with
not only the United
States military agencies,
but also other agencies in
construction of underground
facilities and tunnels.
These are massive undertakings,
and to do that you need to
have large organizations
with the bureaucratic
administrative structure
that's capable of supporting
projects like this.
You won't easily find this
stuff on the internet.
I found these documents by
going to
federal document repositories
at major university libraries
in the United States
and also federal agency
document repositories.
With these corporations
it's like a shell game,
and it's harder and harder to
find out
who is working for whom
and what they're doing
and under what conditions.
The so-called
Morrison-Knudsen is now owned
by something called URS as of 2007.
So you see, it makes it hard
to follow what they're doing
and to follow the money and
the contracts
because the names in
the corporate alliances
are constantly changing
in a state of flux at a very
high level.
Now these mega bases are
gobbling up
our gross national product.
Right now we're spending 28%
of the gross national product
on building underground bases solely.
That doesn't count for the
defense budget.
That doesn't count for
the spare parts budget.
And the black budget is dead,
dead wrong.
It sidesteps the
United States Congress
and its Constitution of its people,
and says you're a bunch of
morons, you don't need to know.
Now, all this alien thing is fine
except for one thing.
Alien takeover is a serious threat.
Kept totally out of the public view,
off the surface, I'm sure
the underground bases
without question
are being used as forum, a
place to house alien takeover.
Alien takeover means the implementation
of a one-world government.
Direct opposite of
constitutional law.
Direct opposite of freedom of choice.
Freedom of religion.
Other freedoms that go with it.
Right to bear arms.
If we allow another election
to go by
with the same ilk in the White House,
we have only ourselves to blame.
One of the questions that
arises is
whether or not there is a legendary
much talked about deal between
human government groups
and non-humans, a human-alien deal.
You know all I can say at this point
is that anything's possible.
I do believe that there are
a number of other beings that
are here,
so if that is possible is it
then possible
that such a deal went wrong?
For example what would
the deal have included?
It could have included we humans
getting certain technologies
and knowledge from them,
in exchange for them having
the ability
to do certain things in our society
without us giving them a
hassle for.
For them having a permanent
base somewhere maybe in Nevada.
Or for them every now and
then taking a human being
to examine them,
but then returning them.
This is the claim of the
human-alien deal.
And the claim furthermore
is that we learned,
during the seventies and eighties
that they were not abiding
by their agreement.
That they were taking
humans, not telling us,
not telling the human
government and so forth.
None of this I have any
idea if this is true or not.
I have no idea.
What I would say is that
it would very much be in the
interest of a visiting race
to make a deal with the
US government, why not?
Sure they might be able to
wipe us out
if they felt like it,
but maybe that's
too much of a hassle for them.
Maybe it's just somewhat easier
to deal with the local
governing power.
So it would make sense
to make an arrangement
with the local strong arms, strongman
which would be the US
Military and the US Government
and if you really want to get
subterranean here so to speak,
there would be a lot of benefit
from a visiting race of extraterrestrials
to exploit Earth and that to
the max.
You know a lot of folks in
this field
believe that any visiting ET race
would by their nature be
peaceful and nonviolent.
I never agreed with this.
I don't understand why just because
you have better technology
then that means you're nicer.
You can be just as exploitative.
Look at human history.
We've got great technology
these days.
It doesn't mean we're any
less exploitative of people
than we were 5,000 years ago.
Well look if you come from
some place that's not here,
really makes sense doesn't it
to create
a secure environment for yourself
probably under the ground.
It's the best place to be.
All the features of planet Earth
are suitable for human beings.
They may not be as suitable
for some other type of species
that didn't come from here.
When I go through the
various witness reports,
alleged reports of encounters
that people have had
with these other entities,
that also reinforces my opinion
that we're dealing with
multiple groups.
So at this point in the
game, my working assumption
is that humanity right now is interacting
really on a covert basis with multiple
highly intelligent non-human
groups that are here,
and they're here for purposes
that might very well be quite varied.
It's not necessarily the case
that they all have one agenda.
Now some of these groups,
or some of these entities
according to again witness accounts
are like the prototypical grays,
that is the short humanoid
large black eyes, big head.
Another type of non-human
that's been discussed
are reptoid types, that is large,
kind of intimidating
reptilian creatures.
Yet another type that's been reported
are what we might call a mantid
or insectoid type creature.
All of this is bizarre,
but yet these reports
are consistent across many
many years
and many different types of people.
Some who are utterly ignorant
of the lore
or of the literature about this
and they still report these.
You know, ordinary people.
So that gives me pause and
that makes me really wonder
if these reports are consistent
with some of the more ancient myths
that people have reported
back in earlier times.
Deep underground military bases,
extraterrestrials living
beneath Earth's surface,
a race that might not even
be from another planet
but rather one that has
existed here,
in the shadows, throughout
mankind's entire development.
Is this the biggest coverup
in our history
or just another conspiracy theory?
In 2017 we still have no
definitive proof
that any of these claims are true
which is all the more reason
why this just might be
one of the greatest journalistic
responsibilities of our time.
And I'm not asking you
to believe me in total.
I am asking you to seriously
do enough homework
that you can go out
through the public record,
through the congressional records,
find out who's voting for
what and go from there.
Do your own program,
do your own agenda,
and do your own speaking out
and if enough of us do this
there is some saving grace.
called for more and
more military spending.
More troops, more ships,
more submarines, more planes.
Didn't say how big the increase
in military spending would be,
but he did throw out a lot of numbers
in justifying the increase.
And look at this, almost
600 billion in spending there,
almost as much as all the other
nine of the top 10 combined Anderson.
The Pentagon has secured
a 630 billion dollar budget
for next year, even though
it's failed to even account
for the money it's received
since 1996,
A daunting 6.5 trillion
dollars of taxpayer cash
have gone to defense programs,
none of which has been
audited and this black budget
has sparked concerns over
political fraud.
The Reuters investigation
says since 1996
the Pentagon has spent
8.5 trillion dollars
in taxpayer money that has
never been accounted for.
One thing I found very
interesting in this report
is that the Pentagon
apparently uses
standard operating procedure
to enter false numbers
or so-called plugs to cover
lost or missing information
in their accounting in order
to submit
a balanced budget to the treasury.
So they can write in everything.
I mean that's probably the
most shocking part of this
is that they get to the end
of the day
and they say oh there's money missing,
what do we do?
Well we'll just put a number
in there
that says it's there and
we'll sort it out later.
I mean again, this is the
type of operating practice
that if you did it in your
own business,
if you tried to do it with your
own taxes for the government
they'd haul you off to jail.
What is the Pentagon's
black budget being used for?
Weapons, defense?
This is the story of one
military family's
extraordinary claims.
Claims that could be found
true in a hidden reality.
I'm Phil Schneider.
I spent 17 years in black
budget programs.
I'm a government geologist,
I was an engineer,
structural engineer with
aerospace applications.
Self-taught metallurgist.
In working with the black projects,
I was involved in something
very controversial,
almost totally unbelievable
to most of you,
but I was involved in
building another base
inside of Dulce, New Mexico
which is Los Alamos Laboratory.
In the southwest part
of the Archuleta Mesa.
We were in the process of the
early stages
of building, we drilled four
large tunnel-like holes.
Some of them ran 2 1/2
miles under the surface.
Anyway after we drilled all
four holes,
took about two days to
drill all four of them,
and when you build an
underground base,
you drill four basic holes
and you build
called stokes or cross member
holds across
and then you use blasting equipment.
Yeah you literally blast out
or tunnel out
or deflagrate or melt rock out.
The equipment kept coming up broken.
So we wanted to send somebody
down there,
a human observer or human
observers in this case
and find out what was going on.
When I saw Green Beret
and Black Beret people
in camp,
inside of our geologist camp
I knew something was up,
the gig was up.
In this process, I was
lowered down the basket
of one of these holes and
about from me
to this elderly woman here in
the front,
was sitting a seven foot tall
alien gray,
the stench was worse than
the worst garbage can
you can imagine.
I didn't waste any time,
I reached for my pistol.
At that time I was an engineer.
I didn't have time to carry
all the full
or one of these big
submachine guns
at all the seize and the
yellow fruit
on the outer perimeter and
inner perimeter
security people carried.
I carried an old Walther PBK
pistol with a nine shot clip.
Plus you're in almost like
a spacesuit environment
and you're reaching for a gun,
it's not the easiest thing to do
and then to pop a clip in it
and start shooting.
And I killed two of them.
Yes they're mortal and they
do die.
However, in the process,
one of them did this.
All I remember is that he
just kind of waved his hand
in front of his chest
and the next thing I know
this blue beam hit me and just
literally opened me up like
a fish.
It was some form of
electrical force
because kind of like being
hit by lightning bolt,
burned all my toenails off of me
and there was a Green Beret
that was right behind me,
but he risked his life, he
shoved me back in the basket
and hit the button and took
me up.
And I wouldn't be alive
talking to you today
if it wasn't for him,
so I'm forever indebted.
He lost his life.
66 secret service agents,
Green Berets, Black Berets,
crack troops lost their
lives because the government,
our United States government lied,
did not tell us anything
about the alien threat.
There's a war underneath there
and I'm talking dead serious.
The large alien grays
had been in camp there
for as best as believed possible
about four or 500 years.
It had been one of their
internal bases,
and we drilled holes right on
top of it.
All the stink and air,
all the black, sooty air
came right out as soon as
the first hole was sunk
and all this soot came up and well,
that's when all the
hell broke loose really.
How it started.
I have a picture of one of
the aliens
been working for the
United States Pentagon
for the last 58 years.
His name is Val, Val Valiant Thor.
He's right here.
There's my father in the background.
This whole place, the ready
room of the USS Eldridge,
Al Bilika has probably explained
or maybe even shown you this picture
and it's a list of the, some
of the notable people in it
and they're all the atomic
bomb scientists of the day.
All the time variant
experimentalists of the day,
all the top physicists
of that particular day.
This was in August of 1943.
Phil Schneider gave
most of his lectures in 1995.
He gained a following speaking
around the United States,
telling people about
his alleged experiences.
Phil claimed that he
personally knew people
who also worked in black
budget programs
who were murdered,
and that most of them
were made to look like a suicide.
11 of my best friends in the
last 22 years have been murdered.
Eight of them called suicides.
I finally got wind of one of them.
Portland Police is now
involved in one of them.
Murder by suicide they call it.
On August 6, 1993 two years
before his lectures
one of Phil's best friends,
Ron Rummel
was found dead in
St. Macleay Park in Oregon.
He had suffered a fatal
gunshot wound to the head
and a gun was found nearby.
Police ruled it as suicide,
but Phil and many others
strongly believed that he was murdered.
Ron Rummel was best known for
publishing The Alien Digest,
a newsletter filled with
stories and testimonies
regarding the UFO coverup.
Author Ron Rummel was
about to publish a book
revealing what he believed
to be the real purpose
of the Star Wars project
when his body was found
here in Macleay Park in
Portland, Oregon.
His death was ruled suicide,
but few agree with that verdict.
As far as the police and the FBI
are concerned it's case closed.
Unfortunately there's the
shocking thing
that his murderer,
I believe his murderer
is still out there at large.
Why is it you're speaking out?
There have been enough lives taken
under the premise of
suicide when they were
actually very stable individuals,
always had, they had families
and they had lives to look
forward to
and they had every reason to live
and if there is some form
of conspiracy out there
then the more people that are talking,
might end up saving lives in
the long run.
My friend Ronald Lee Rummel
was an Air Force officer,
he was a silver star winner.
There's a good chance that
when I fly back to Reno,
excuse me,
to Vegas I have to drive home.
I left my car down in Vegas.
I have to drive home alone.
I'm scared to hell.
On January 17, 1996
after not being seen
for at least five days,
Phil Schneider was found
dead in his apartment
by his landlord and a detective
from the Clackamas
County Sheriff's Office.
The autopsy report listed the
cause of death as unknown,
but it was later discovered
that Phil
was actually strangled
by his own catheter hose.
Was this a case of negligence,
or a cover-up?
I, there's a number
of you ladies present
so I won't gore you out
but Al has seen some of the wounds
and there's a few other people
that have been to a few
of my other lectures
and they can attest that
I have been shot.
I've been run off the road.
I've been pushed off the road.
This is an account of Phil's death,
a case that reeks of suspicion,
neglect of duty,
and disregard for human dignity.
The first official police report
defines Phil's cause of death
to be from natural causes.
On January 16, 1996, deputy
officer McLeland is alerted
by a suspicious apartment manager
that he has not seen Phil for weeks.
Upon first investigation when
entering Phil's apartment,
officer McLeland finds
Phil's body beside his bed,
with his face lying in the
seat of his own wheelchair.
Medical and forensic examiner
Mr. Coleman
chooses not to respond to the
crime scene.
At this point, Phil had been
dead for three to four days.
January 17, his body is then
whisked away to a funeral home.
January 18, Mr. Took calls
from the funeral home
to alert the police that he
has found a catheter cord
wrapped around Phil's neck.
This leads to the starting
of detective Haggin's
investigation on the same day.
Haggen seems to be the only
one interested
in following up this case honestly.
He calls medical examiner Coleman
and segeant Joyce who
both elect not to respond.
Upon further investigation,
while interrogating deputy McLeland,
the deputy recalls the
catheter cord
being near Phil's neck at
the scene of the crime.
It is concluded in this report
that the only person who
could have
been around Phil at this time
was a woman
from the Oregon Senior
and Disabled Services.
Other things recovered from
the scene of the investigation
were seven pill medications.
Detectives Harris and Kennell
are then assigned to the case.
An autopsy is to be held by
Dr. Gunson on January 19.
This was requested as well
by Cynthia, Phil's late wife.
The autopsy report surmises Phil's
cause of death by
asphyxiation ruled a suicide.
Recovered stomach material
showed no signs of pills.
Furthermore, blood and urine
are placed
on a three month hold,
only to be reported as lost
when Cynthia calls after
the given time has passed.
The catheter cord is described
as being wrapped around the
neck once
and then tied from the front,
very tight.
Now, you must ask yourself
how can Phil
be found dead via strangulation
with his face in the seat
of his own wheelchair?
Is this something that he
could do himself
without taking any form
of medical assistance
in order to sedate?
What do we have here?
Is this a clean cut case of suicide?
Or could there likely be foul play?
Could this be a case of murder
by suicide?
This case was determined on
January 19 as death by suicide
which is further indicated
on his death certificate.
But something of even more
suspicion appears in this case.
In the Oregonian obituaries,
a statement is given
not by Cynthia, that
he died from a stroke.
So what happened here?
Trying to get some
samples of Phil, my dad
and my mom.
They were suddenly missing,
mysteriously missing.
And did, what did they say?
They were just as surprised
as you were?
Yeah, oh we don't have those samples.
It's like they
never did or they just
or just didn't even know.
They said we'll hold them for
a year.
Mom came back, 11 months
before the due date, you know.
Or you know there's one month
until the,
they would not hold them anymore.
And they suddenly didn't have
'em anymore.
Yeah.
Let's get right down to it.
When you're dealing with
something of the magnitude
what it appears to be,
that is the presence of
a variety of non-humans here
on Earth
that are here for some sort
of agenda
and everything else that
goes along with that
including possible collaboration
by various human groups but then
this is obviously incredibly
explosive material
and so it goes without saying
that the intelligence agencies,
the deep black agencies,
black ops groups that are
involved in this
would need to keep this
as quiet as possible.
They would have to, for
their own preservation.
So in other words secret becomes
the ultimate goal for this
and that means secrecy in
theory forever, forever.
Secrecy forever.
If there are leaks that are
going to come out about this,
you have to find a way
to disable those leaks.
Either by disabling the information
or the individual behind it.
Doesn't have to be by killing them.
It could be by ruining their reputation,
by discrediting them
in one way or another.
That's just as good.
Certainly one thing that we
know in the last 60, 70 years
is that assassination techniques
have become very, very sophisticated.
Very sophisticated.
The art of suiciding someone,
that is killing them
making it be a suicide.
This is widespread.
It's been widespread for many years.
During the days of the Cold War
the KGB was very good at this.
To this day, you're not gonna
get the CIA to admit it,
but we know that this happened.
It happened in the case of a
fellow named
Frank Olson in 19, the early 1950s.
He was a biological warfare expert
who was given LSD without his knowledge
by a CIA friend.
Long story short, he was
taken to a large hotel
in New York City, the tenth floor
and was thrown out the window.
Made it seem like a suicide,
it was no suicide.
Olson was killed.
Because he'd become a
security risk.
This is a game.
So back to our scenario here
of multiple non-human groups
with possible human alien
interaction going on,
this is a secret that has to
be kept
from their point of view.
And anyone who threatens that
secrecy has got to be handled
whether by discrediting that person
or failing all else,
by killing them.
Upon examination, it seems easy
to accept the theory that
Phil was a victim of homicide
but what does that mean for
his claims
of aliens living underground?
Years after Schneider's death,
other claims of a joint human
alien base
underneath Dulce, New Mexico
are surfacing left and right.
The book UFO Highway by
Anthony Sanchez
is essentially transcripts of interviews
with a person only known as
Colonel X
who supposedly worked inside
this facility
and is known to believe that
Phil Schneider was really there.
Shows like History Channel's
UFO Hunters
have even visited the
area looking for clues.
It's a 14 mile underground tunnel
that goes under that mountain there.
Yes.
Even Jesse Ventura's
Conspiracy Theory
on TruTV paid a visit to the
alleged location of the Dulce base.
Do they?
Yeah.
Some other pretty credible sources
for alien activity in the
Archuleta Mesa
include the high number
of Apache Native Americans
who have some pretty insane stories
of strange happenings in the area.
Rumor has it there is a
secret base
hidden underneath the
Archuleta Mesa here.
The mountain overlooks Dulce.
Some people in town say
the base is run by aliens
working with our federal government
to conduct mind control
and genetic experiments.
Do you believe that?
Yeah.
A whole bunch of people seen it,
you know.
The ground opened up,
steam coming out of it.
Geri Julian says she had her first
extraterrestrial encounter
right here,
on her Dulce ranch about 40
years ago.
It was huge.
I just saw the bottom of it,
you know it was like flat
like this.
Many of her neighbors
claim similar, strange sightings.
Fat in the middle and kind
of like rounded on the sides.
You're speechless you know?
You just don't know what to think.
Sometime in the seventies,
things changed.
That's when cows started
turning up mutilated.
They just cut out in between
the legs right here.
We seen one.
I know it's not a
predator that's doing it.
There's, someone's doing it.
Local police never
definitively said
who's to blame.
Locals say it has to be
something out of this world.
They say they know it sounds crazy.
I'll submit to a lie detector
test or anything you know?
To be fair,
at this point we have to also
play devil's advocate with
Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims.
It is entirely possible that
he simply
heard about the tales of
UFOs and underground bases
in the Archuleta Mesa area
and made up
his own story based on those stories.
In order to at least make an attempt
at finding out if he was
telling the truth or not,
we must first know who Phil
Schneider was.
I kind of knew about Phil.
Lee and I had met him through the
Oregon Agate and Mineral
Society in Portland, Oregon
and I had been a past
president of the society.
Had about 500 members.
So you know it was a large
group of people
who came together every other week
to study rocks and minerals.
What year was this?
1985.
Philip grew up in a
navy, armed forces family
'cause he was all over
places with his dad.
So let's see, while he was young
I think they also went to London.
It was in the early fifties, 1950s.
So he was in London and I think
that's when Oscar was working
in NATO.
He was doing a lot of
armed force work in NATO,
but he kind of knew that his dad
was doing a lot of top secret
things later on in life.
I'd like to also mention
something about my father.
My father was a U-boat
captain in Hitler's navy.
He was captured by the French,
turned over to the third army,
the US third army
and then US third army
turned him over to the navy
and he was a master machinist.
Now that's not a journeyman,
a master means
they can take a block
of metal and make a gun
or a watch or some other fine instrument.
He was a master machinist,
he later became an MD doctor
in part of the aerospace
medicine group
of the United States Navy.
Was instrumental in helping
build the USS Nautilus
and its predecessor the Enterprise,
first nuclear powered
aircraft carrier
and other ships like it.
Phil's father, Oscar Otto Schneider
was also involved in government
secrecy and black projects.
In the 1990s, during Phil
Schneider's lecture tour
across the United States,
he was known
to carry many documents and pictures
providing evidence to certain testimony
about controversial subjects
he would be discussing.
Furthermore there were four documents
which Phil carried with
him on lecture tour.
These documents were allegedly
owned by Oscar Schneider
while he was in office working
for the United States Navy
in the 1950s.
During this time, the rumored
Philadelphia Experiment
took place and perhaps these
documents are the smoking gun
that prove in fact the
Philadelphia Experiment did occur.
The first document
details an autopsy report
on one of the crew members
from the Philadelphia Experiment.
One of the letters that Oscar
wrote about the autopsy
of the Philadelphia
Experiment crew member,
Items that he was pulling
out of the back of their eyes
and their arms and their legs
these little things that
looked like transistors.
That's exactly what they were.
They were little surveillance items
that were placed into the bodies
of the Philadelphia
Experiment crew members.
In this letter, it is addressed
to lieutenant Nathan F. Twining.
Oscar seems to report on the vessel
which Twining's staff
couldn't find.
Furthermore, it includes an
order from J. Edgar Hoover
to have all personnel undergo
psychological testing.
The third letter addresses
Edward Condon.
Edward Condon is well
known for his involvement
explaining away all UFO phenomenon
as simply optical illusions.
However in this letter,
Oscar seems to be
reporting to Edward that seven
Philadelphia Project experiencers
had escaped from a psych ward
that Oscar
was holding and testing them at.
He goes on to say that J. Edgar
had declared the incident
classified as a
1A prime directive, possibly meaning
something in regards to a top
secret security clearance,
finishing this letter with a reference
to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer.
This is significant because
Nikola Tesla
has always been known to be involved
with the design of the
machine which would create
the fabled Philadelphia
Experiment's invisible technology.
Condon, having been known
most notoriously
as the leading UFO debunker
of his time
paved the way for secrecy and coverups
in this realm that we study today.
The fourth and final letter
Oscar Schneider writes again.
In consideration of the latent facts
considering the fate of
the USS Farenseth DE-173,
all ships, personnel, and material
must be quarantined absolute
until further notice.
No exceptions.
An on site naval inspection
is ordered forthwith
as bureau of ships reticent requirements
in section 93A.
Please include DE-173's ship's log
to admiral Roscoe Hillenkoult, USN.
Consider them and all events
of nature above secret.
See class ARH-9 project Blue Sky.
Oscar Schneider, captain, USN.
At this point it appears that
Phil Schneider's father Oscar
was very likely involved
in classified operations
that involved top secret technologies.
But what about his son Phil?
What do we really know about
his work?
I would say late sixties,
he started his work and
I have social security records
under the wrong social
security number
and I think this was how the
black ops
get away with a lot of things
is they put you under the
wrong social security number
so you can't prove your
work history with them.
But I can prove that under
the wrong
social security number he
worked for Morrison-Knudsen
which is a contractor,
a civilian contractor
that works for the army or
the navy.
He did some work at Trojan Nuclear
and after that, by the early 1980s
he was applying for SSI.
So I know by the early
1980s his career is done.
He's so injured that he
cannot do any more work
and his memory is like
totally lost
as to what he did before.
It wasn't until after we got married
that he got good medical care
and stopped taking the medications
he was taking when I first
met him
that he started to
remember all of the things
that are now on the internet.
Hello Marie.
Hi.
Want a Squirt?
Lots of food and soft drinks.
There ya go.
So tell me when did Phil
start telling you about
his past and his work?
It was soon after he kept saying
that he had to take Dilantin
to prevent seizures.
But I noticed when he took Dilantin,
he would have a seizure.
It was the other way around.
It was actually killing him
and it was disrupting him
emotionally, physically,
so much that he
didn't have much of a memory
of anything in his past.
And then after we were married
he got really good medical care.
It slowly started to come back.
I mean it was like, he
would even say to me
gee I hope you don't think
I'm lying
because I'm just remembering this
but wow, you know these
things start coming up
and I just suddenly remember
what's really happened.
But that's really when it started.
When Oscar died,
it might have been '94.
Phil went down into his basement,
and found a file cabinet full
of stuff
that was just unbelievable.
And he showed me most of that.
I mean I saw the original envelopes
with the original paperwork
that had the drawings on it.
I saw the original photographs
with the stamps on the back
from the Navy.
I mean it was all real stuff.
This is not faked.
He shared so much with me,
even though we were divorced
at the time.
So I saw all this stuff that
came out of the file cabinet,
but he'd been talking
to Ron about it a lot.
They were doing a little alien
magazine, a little digest.
And then his dad died and he found
all this stuff in the basement.
Well Ron was murdered that
same year,
and that infuriated him.
As Philip grew up he went to
Lincoln High School here in Portland
'cause I have a transcript
of his senior high school,
so that was pretty normal
except it does indicate
on that transcript that
he had an IQ of 163.
So I know Phil told me that
before he had his medical issues
he could speak 11 languages
and I believe that
because he was suddenly
in the middle of the night
sleeping together he would suddenly
start rattling off different languages,
so this is all though in his sleep.
He consciously couldn't remember
how to speak those languages,
but in his sleep unconsciously
he could still connect with
some of it.
First of all the idea
of underground bases
and underground civilizations,
this is actually this is a
very old idea in human history
you know going back thousands
of years
you've got ancient tribes
around the world
that have made these claims.
We would say they were myths,
but that there are secret caverns,
secret races, secret tribes
that exist under the ground
and really when one talks about
for example hollow earth theory,
that's a lot of what
they're talking about here.
But not all hollow earth theorists
say that the entire Earth is hollow.
A lot of them will say that
there are just substantial
caverns under the ground where
there are civilizations
that are down there.
So that's an old idea.
You get it in a lot of Asian European
I think like the Germans
have the tradition.
You have Native Americans
have this tradition.
The Tibetans may have the
most extensive
tradition of this for all I know.
On South America traditional
tribes had this as well,
so the idea in the Tibetan tradition
from what I have understood about it
is that there are different races
below the surface of the Earth
including reptoid or
reptilian races
that are supposedly from
other worlds.
I'm not making this up.
So that by itself is interesting
and you might ask why
do all of these disparate
civilizations have these
kinds of ideas, and I don't
have an answer to that.
But I can tell you
that's an old, old idea.
Dolan goes on to explain
the supposed connection
between the Nazis
and Tibetan hollow earth theories.
What you really get
into the 20th Century
where Nazis and their predecessors
let's just call them the
Thule Society
which was a kind of a mystical sect
that the Nazis really drew a
lot out of
in forming their own ideology.
The Thule Society was very interested
in Tibetan myths about
openings into the earth.
This idea of deep underground tunnels,
bases, crisscrossing the world.
And since this was a Tibetan idea,
we have to presume that
the Nazis themselves
were familiar with this idea
as well.
There's no question that the secret
underground bases do exist,
and by the way it's not only
the military of the United States
or other countries you know
who are making
these underground and
also undersea facilities.
Other agencies and
organizations do it as well.
All that is needed is the
requisite will,
funding, expert personnel,
and technology.
In the early to mid 20th Century,
you had the French of
course who constructed
the Maginot Line in eastern France
to guard against German
invasion in World War II.
There was a military civil
engineering organization
in the Third Reich called
the Todt Organization.
And it was named after Fritz Todt.
Fritz Todt was a brilliant
civil engineer.
He was the father of the
German Autobahn System.
During the World War II period,
Adolf Hitler asked Fritz Todt
to lend his
engineering expertise to the
military program of the
Third Reich, which he did.
He established an engineering agency
which was called the Todt Organization.
Now Fritz Todt died in
a plane crash in 1942,
and one of his deputies named
Xaver Dorsch
took over control of the agency.
I did find a couple of
project Paperclip memos
from 1947 that specifically
requested Xaver Dorsch by name
to be brought to the United States
to work on the United States military's
underground plant construction program.
The American military certainly
was well aware of who
Xaver Dorsch was
and his expertise.
In his day he was probably
the preeminent authority
on underground base construction,
whether in Germany or
in the United States.
Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina
but they're not from an
ancient civilization.
They're reportedly connected
with the Nazi regime.
According to an article
in the New Zealand Herald
a secret bunker was found
which appears
to have been planned for
members of the Nazi party
to use as a hideout after
losing the war and fleeing to
South America.
I had people tell me that
some of the bases
are as deep as 10, 12, 14
miles down.
Okay so if they're one mile deep,
how would they make that?
Like can you state possibly
a piece of technology
that you came across say in
documents you were
researching or?
Oh yes, oh yes.
Since at least the 1950s, the
mining and civil engineering
industries have had the capability
to sink major shafts straight down.
One even two miles or more,
and then to tunnel out from
the bottom of these shafts
whether for mining purposes
or for tunnel complexes.
One of the most common forms
is to use
a very hard cutting edge on
the tunnel boring machines
that rotate,
would be like a huge version
of the drills used in
petroleum industry
or natural gas industry to drill
very deep underground burrows.
I've heard theories
of also nuclear power drills.
Yes, I cite this
technology in my first book.
These are called subterrains.
Subterrains are nuclear powered.
They use a small fission
nuclear reactor.
The nuclear reactor is
contained within the machine.
The research and design was done
at Los Alamos National
Laboratories back
during the 20th Century
and there were some patents
granted to the research
team at Los Alamos.
If they are in use,
they are being used
clandestinely in great secrecy.
Could you also maybe lend to
the audience
some examples of real
underground facilities?
The most famous one
would be under Cheyenne
Mountain in Colorado
which used to be the NORAD headquarters.
Now it's a backup dormant base,
but that'd be the most famous
one I guess.
It's appeared in many movies.
It is large, it is
sophisticated, it's deep.
Then you also have the
famous FEMA underground base
beneath Mount Weather
in northern Virginia.
It's run by FEMA, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency.
It's also quite deep,
sophisticated, large.
This so-called site R complex
that is the Pentagon's
alternate command center
which is underground
on the border between
Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Then of course you have the
well known Area 51 facility.
There's been quite a lot of
underground excavation done there.
Many people have spoken
about facilities out there.
Yes sir.
Let's go back to the
so-called area 51
because in people's minds when
you say I can't talk about it
because it's classified,
conjures up
oh there it is,
there's the cover-up.
Can you give us any hint
without violating any sense of
confidential nature what kinds
of things might be happening?
Sir I cannot, forgive me.
I just do not know.
Is there anyone
in the Air Force that can?
I'm gonna have to defer
that to public affairs.
It's outside of my area of expertise.
Do you believe in UFOs?
Firstly no sir.
Why not?
Ma'am I have no reason to
believe that they're real.
And then there are other ones
that are perhaps less well known.
The NSA in Laurel, Maryland
which is at Fort Meade.
Now Fort Meade is an armed facility
but the NSA is actually
the major activity there
and there are just literal acres,
multiple acres of supercomputers
beneath Fort Meade
that go down and down and down.
I have been told 20 levels,
maybe more
and then Los Alamos National
Lab in northern New Mexico.
Then you have Camp David in Maryland.
Many people are familiar
with Camp David as
a United States presidential retreat
where presidents often
helicopter to
for rest and relaxation,
but less commonly known
is there is a massive
underground facility
that spreads out for miles.
In the route to the
first war against Iraq,
Bechtel built three deeply buried
sophisticated underground
facilities in Saudi Arabia.
They were used during the war,
the first war.
Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf
who was
the American military commander
spent most of that war
underground in Saudi Arabia.
And the Chinese,
it has come to light
that the Chinese have
constructed something like
3,000 miles of underground tunnels
to house their nuclear arsenal.
What is, what's the benefit
of building all of these bases
in and around the world?
What is it for?
Is it for keeping things secret,
and what are they keeping secret?
Is it for keeping things
away from the public?
Is it also for protection in
some way?
Could you elaborate on that?
Yes to all of that.
All of those are considerations.
The motivation for going deep underground
and or deep undersea is often
driven by
concerns of security and secrecy.
Weapons production and
storage happens underground
whether for nuclear
weapons or other kinds.
This has been going on ever
since the World War II period.
It looks almost like
a scene from an action movie.
Dozens of ballistic
missile launching systems
inside a gigantic cave.
But the video shows Iran's
Missile Program
is very real and very big,
as the head of the elite
revolutionary guards
aerospace division says.
The missiles in various
ranges are mounted
on launchers in all bases
and are ready to be launched
he told an Iranian state
TV reporter and added
that is if enemies make a mistake.
You also have
scientific research
facilities underground.
The CERN supercollider on the border
of Switzerland and France
would be a good example.
That one is very publicly
known and discussed.
There are other underground
research facilities
including like Area 51 and elsewhere
that operate much more
out of the public eye.
There are many rumors about clandestine
extraterrestrial facilities
both underground and undersea,
and a growing number of people
have come forward over the years
with ample accounts of having seen
and or been taken into such facilities
by a variety of reasons.
Both by extraterrestrials and also
by shadowy elements of the
United States military,
by clandestine units.
I do take these stories seriously.
I do believe that these
types of facilities exist.
One of the big reasons
that they would be here
and underground again,
for secrecy, for security,
and for purposes of communication,
command, and control.
The same reasons that the
United States military
builds underground bases.
Secrecy, how corporations
and military rule the underworld.
I've spent years going
through heaps
of technical documentation
in the military industrial complex
and Morrison-Knudsen is one
of those
that would pop up in the bibliographies.
Companies like Parsons
Brinckerhoff, William Douglas,
Kiewit, Black and Veatch.
Of course you have the
two military agencies,
the Army Corps of Engineers
which is definitely involved
in constructing underground
bases and tunnels.
It has been for more than
half a century.
You also have the US Navy
Seabees who also work
in underground and undersea construction.
Those would be two of the
lead military agencies,
but there are large
corporations that are involved.
The Bechtel Corporation is one.
Then you have the tunnel
boring machine companies
such as the Robbins Company.
A number of these
companies which for decades
have worked very closely with
not only the United
States military agencies,
but also other agencies in
construction of underground
facilities and tunnels.
These are massive undertakings,
and to do that you need to
have large organizations
with the bureaucratic
administrative structure
that's capable of supporting
projects like this.
You won't easily find this
stuff on the internet.
I found these documents by
going to
federal document repositories
at major university libraries
in the United States
and also federal agency
document repositories.
With these corporations
it's like a shell game,
and it's harder and harder to
find out
who is working for whom
and what they're doing
and under what conditions.
The so-called
Morrison-Knudsen is now owned
by something called URS as of 2007.
So you see, it makes it hard
to follow what they're doing
and to follow the money and
the contracts
because the names in
the corporate alliances
are constantly changing
in a state of flux at a very
high level.
Now these mega bases are
gobbling up
our gross national product.
Right now we're spending 28%
of the gross national product
on building underground bases solely.
That doesn't count for the
defense budget.
That doesn't count for
the spare parts budget.
And the black budget is dead,
dead wrong.
It sidesteps the
United States Congress
and its Constitution of its people,
and says you're a bunch of
morons, you don't need to know.
Now, all this alien thing is fine
except for one thing.
Alien takeover is a serious threat.
Kept totally out of the public view,
off the surface, I'm sure
the underground bases
without question
are being used as forum, a
place to house alien takeover.
Alien takeover means the implementation
of a one-world government.
Direct opposite of
constitutional law.
Direct opposite of freedom of choice.
Freedom of religion.
Other freedoms that go with it.
Right to bear arms.
If we allow another election
to go by
with the same ilk in the White House,
we have only ourselves to blame.
One of the questions that
arises is
whether or not there is a legendary
much talked about deal between
human government groups
and non-humans, a human-alien deal.
You know all I can say at this point
is that anything's possible.
I do believe that there are
a number of other beings that
are here,
so if that is possible is it
then possible
that such a deal went wrong?
For example what would
the deal have included?
It could have included we humans
getting certain technologies
and knowledge from them,
in exchange for them having
the ability
to do certain things in our society
without us giving them a
hassle for.
For them having a permanent
base somewhere maybe in Nevada.
Or for them every now and
then taking a human being
to examine them,
but then returning them.
This is the claim of the
human-alien deal.
And the claim furthermore
is that we learned,
during the seventies and eighties
that they were not abiding
by their agreement.
That they were taking
humans, not telling us,
not telling the human
government and so forth.
None of this I have any
idea if this is true or not.
I have no idea.
What I would say is that
it would very much be in the
interest of a visiting race
to make a deal with the
US government, why not?
Sure they might be able to
wipe us out
if they felt like it,
but maybe that's
too much of a hassle for them.
Maybe it's just somewhat easier
to deal with the local
governing power.
So it would make sense
to make an arrangement
with the local strong arms, strongman
which would be the US
Military and the US Government
and if you really want to get
subterranean here so to speak,
there would be a lot of benefit
from a visiting race of extraterrestrials
to exploit Earth and that to
the max.
You know a lot of folks in
this field
believe that any visiting ET race
would by their nature be
peaceful and nonviolent.
I never agreed with this.
I don't understand why just because
you have better technology
then that means you're nicer.
You can be just as exploitative.
Look at human history.
We've got great technology
these days.
It doesn't mean we're any
less exploitative of people
than we were 5,000 years ago.
Well look if you come from
some place that's not here,
really makes sense doesn't it
to create
a secure environment for yourself
probably under the ground.
It's the best place to be.
All the features of planet Earth
are suitable for human beings.
They may not be as suitable
for some other type of species
that didn't come from here.
When I go through the
various witness reports,
alleged reports of encounters
that people have had
with these other entities,
that also reinforces my opinion
that we're dealing with
multiple groups.
So at this point in the
game, my working assumption
is that humanity right now is interacting
really on a covert basis with multiple
highly intelligent non-human
groups that are here,
and they're here for purposes
that might very well be quite varied.
It's not necessarily the case
that they all have one agenda.
Now some of these groups,
or some of these entities
according to again witness accounts
are like the prototypical grays,
that is the short humanoid
large black eyes, big head.
Another type of non-human
that's been discussed
are reptoid types, that is large,
kind of intimidating
reptilian creatures.
Yet another type that's been reported
are what we might call a mantid
or insectoid type creature.
All of this is bizarre,
but yet these reports
are consistent across many
many years
and many different types of people.
Some who are utterly ignorant
of the lore
or of the literature about this
and they still report these.
You know, ordinary people.
So that gives me pause and
that makes me really wonder
if these reports are consistent
with some of the more ancient myths
that people have reported
back in earlier times.
Deep underground military bases,
extraterrestrials living
beneath Earth's surface,
a race that might not even
be from another planet
but rather one that has
existed here,
in the shadows, throughout
mankind's entire development.
Is this the biggest coverup
in our history
or just another conspiracy theory?
In 2017 we still have no
definitive proof
that any of these claims are true
which is all the more reason
why this just might be
one of the greatest journalistic
responsibilities of our time.
And I'm not asking you
to believe me in total.
I am asking you to seriously
do enough homework
that you can go out
through the public record,
through the congressional records,
find out who's voting for
what and go from there.
Do your own program,
do your own agenda,
and do your own speaking out
and if enough of us do this
there is some saving grace.