Spotlight (2015) - full transcript

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How's that going?

The mother's bawling

and the uncle's pissed off.

She's not married?

Divorced with four kids.

I guess Father

was helping out.

Helping out?

Hey, Mr. Burke,

they're in back talking to the bishop.

And Father?

We put him in the break room.

Any press?

Some guy from the Citizen

but we sent him away.

None of the big papers.

Let's keep it that way.

Who's that?

Assistant DA.

It's gonna be hard to keep the

papers away from the arraignment.

What arraignment?

You can tell Father Geoghan

it won't be much longer.

Now, Sheila, you know what good

work the church does in the community.

But I give you

my personal guarantee

that I'm going to take

Father out of the parish,

and this will never

happen again.

We'll just be

another moment, Paul.

Of course, Father.

Now, Sheila, I'm going

to give you my personal card...

Losing a good reporter

is always tough.

But losing

one of our best...

Well, to put it

as eloquently as I can,

it's a real kick in the ass.

But, Robby here

has known Stewart

longer than most of you

have been alive,

so, I'll hand it off

to him. Robby.

Oh, well, thanks, Ben.

I think.

Although I take issue with your

reference to my seniority,

I will say that Stewart's departure

is especially painful for me

because, uh...

For what, Stewart?

Twenty years now?

Stewart's been more

than willing to part

with his money

at the poker table.

And I've got a kid

in college.

Yeah, but I'm gonna keep playing.

Oh, problem solved.

Godspeed then.

Now, Stewart, I find the

timing of your departure

disconcerting.

The corner office sits empty,

the new editor

arrives on Monday,

so I'm sorry, buddy,

but I gotta ask ya.

What the hell

do you know?

How's the cake?

It's really good.

Are you saving yours?

Nah, it's for Mike.

I can never eat at those things.

They kind of depress me.

I know.

Did you see the numbers

from Washington?

Yeah. Very interesting.

I think so, too.

I'm not asking if the PD's lying,

I know they're lying.

All I'm asking,

who's behind it?

Oh. Okay, I get it.

You don't want to talk.

No, Dan, I'm not mad,

I'm hungry.

I've been talking here

so long I didn't eat lunch.

So I'm gonna go

get something to eat,

and that'll give you

an hour to decide

whether you want to be

on the right side of this

or read about it

like everybody else.

Bye, Dan.

You think

Cahill has something?

Maybe. I just don't think

the story's for us.

Ben likes it. Yeah, it's not bad,

it's just not Spotlight.

What's just not Spotlight?

The PD numbers.

The numbers story. It feels thin.

Oh, you got Cahill to talk?

No, but I will.

Good. Then we'll know

if it's thin.

- How'd it go upstairs?

- Oh, okay.

- Robby gave a good speech.

- Sure he did.

I heard Lubin and Connor

are going to the Times.

- Come on, really?

- Yeah, I heard that.

They're leeching us.

Well, at least they're sending us

a guy from Miami to run things.

That should help.

Has Baron even

spent time in Boston?

I don't think he's ever been here before.

Maybe we should buy him a map.

I have a friend down in Miami

said he cut 15% of the staff.

Great...

Hey, Robby.

New boss coming in

to make some cuts?

I have no idea.

Aren't you sitting down

with him?

Yes, I am.

So is it about Spotlight?

I don't know, Mike,

but I do know

that Ben needs an answer

on the crime numbers story.

I'm telling you,

I really don't think that story's for us.

Mr. Baron.

Walter Robinson. Robby.

Thanks for taking the time

out of your weekend.

Oh, my pleasure.

Appreciate it.

What are you reading?

Uh...

The Curse of the Bambino.

Oh, yeah,

it's a great book.

The Globe has

season tickets at Fenway

once you're settled in,

by the way.

Thank you.

Uh, to be honest,

I'm not much of a baseball fan.

I'm just trying to

get a feel for the city.

Oh, yeah...

So you're originally

from Boston?

I am. Born and raised, yeah.

A lot of the newsroom

is from here.

It really feels like

a local paper in that way.

And did that change at all after

the paper was sold to the Times?

No. No, I don't think

that had a big impact.

Good.

And you're an editor

for the Spotlight team?

I'd prefer to think of myself

as player coach. But yes.

Are you familiar

with Spotlight?

No, not particularly.

Well, we are a four-person

investigative team.

We report to

Ben Bradlee, Jr.,

and we keep

our work confidential.

What're you

working on now?

We just put out a piece on a

shoddy construction outfit,

and right now we're really just

trolling around for our next story.

How long does

that typically take?

Hard to say.

A couple months.

Couple months?

Yeah, we don't like to

rush it.

Once we settle on a project, we can

spend a year or more investigating it.

Is that a concern?

Not necessarily.

Um, but from what I understand

readership is down,

Internet is cutting into

the classified business, and.

I think I'm gonna need to

take a hard look at things.

So, do you anticipate

more cuts?

I think it's safe

to assume so,

but what I'm more focused on

right now is finding a way

to make this paper

essential to its readers.

I like to think

it already is.

Fair enough. I just think

that we can do better.

Mr. Bradlee.

Hey.

Saw the PD numbers.

Looks interesting.

Yeah, there's something there.

How long do you need?

Another week.

Where're you going?

10:30.

Since when?

Technically,

I am an editor.

Technically.

Your sit-down with Baron

go that well?

I couldn't get a read on him.

That's a first.

How about you?

Oh, he's a barrel of laughs.

Morning, everyone.

Let's get started.

Do you wanna

say something, Marty?

Uh, sure.

Uh, hello.

As most of you know by now,

my name is Marty Baron,

I'm delighted to be here.

Um, if you could tell me your name

as we go around, that'd be helpful.

Thank you.

Okay. Peter?

Peter Canellos, Metro.

I've got a major

Big Dig closure.

Hey, Steve. Hey.

Mike.

Crappy game

last night, huh?

Yeah, they can't hit

worth a nickel.

Hey listen, what's Eileen McNamara

doing in the 10:30?

Do you need something, Mike?

No, just curious.

Go be curious somewhere else.

I got work to do, huh?

Okay, Steve.

See you.

Yeah.

And it looks like Pedro's gonna

be out until September 1st.

Jimmy says he'll be back this year,

but the doc didn't seem so sure.

When's the Pats' opener?

Is that everyone?

Yes, that's it.

Okay. Good.

Thank you. Uh...

Did everyone read

Eileen McNamara's column this weekend?

That's the Geoghan case?

Yeah, what's the folo

on that?

It's a column, what kind

of folo were you thinking?

Uh, well, apparently

this priest molested kids

in six different parishes

over the last 30 years,

and the attorney

for the victims, Mr...

Garabedian.

Thanks, Eileen.

Mr. Garabedian says

Cardinal Law found out

about it 15 years ago

and did nothing.

Yeah, I think that

attorney's a bit of a crank,

and the church

dismissed the claim.

He said, she said.

Whether Mr. Garabedian

is a crank or not

he says he has documents

that prove the cardinal knew.

As I understand it,

those documents are under seal.

Okay, but the fact remains,

a Boston priest abused 80 kids,

we have a lawyer who says he

can prove Law knew about it,

and we've written all of, uh,

two stories in the last six months.

This strikes me as an essential

story to a local paper.

I think at the very least, we have

to go through those documents.

How would you

like to do that?

Oh, uh...

I don't know

what the laws are here,

but in Florida

we would go to court.

You want to sue the church?

Technically we wouldn't

sue the church.

We'd file a motion to lift

the seal on those documents.

The church will read that

as us suing them.

So will everybody else.

Good to know.

Gutsy call

for the first day.

That's one word for it.

How do you think that's

gonna play down front?

I think Gilman's

gonna shit a brick.

Hey.

Door.

How'd it go?

Well, Baron wants to sue for the

sealed docs in the Geoghan case.

Wants to sue the church?

Hey, that's great.

We covered Geoghan when the

story broke three years ago.

Baron was still in Miami.

I think he might have been

at the Times then, actually.

He wasn't here.

So do you think

that suit has a chance?

Depends on the judge.

And what parish he belongs to.

Bradlee. Yeah.

Okay.

Baron wants to talk to us.

Us?

Okay, Jon. Thank you.

Yes. Okay, thanks.

I've set up a meeting for

tomorrow with outside counsel.

Jon Albano?

Yeah.

Who's the judge

in this case?

Um...

Constance Sweeney.

Tough.

Why's that?

Good Catholic girl.

Huh.

So, um,

judging from what I've read,

it doesn't seem like we've done

a very thorough investigation

into the Geoghan case.

Is that right?

No, it's not.

We looked hard at Geoghan.

David Armstrong from Metro,

Michael Paulson for Religion.

Okay, but, uh,

just so I understand,

beyond our daily coverage,

we haven't...

We haven't committed any long-term

investigative resources

to the question of whether or not

Cardinal Law knew about this?

No, we haven't.

And that's the kind of thing

your team would do?

Spotlight? Well, yeah.

But we're still prospecting the

Boston PD story I told you about.

Could you set that aside?

We could.

Marty, in past Spotlight's

had success in large part

because they pick

their own projects.

Would you consider

picking this one?

I don't know if

he's writing about you,

but I will let him know

you called.

Okay, bye.

Hey.

Hey, how'd it go?

Okay. Uh...

Baron wants us to scrub

the Geoghan case.

That's great.

Didn't we cover Geoghan?

Yeah, there's a lawyer alleging

Cardinal Law knew about it.

- Mmm. Mitch Garabedian, right?

- Yeah.

I covered him

at the courthouse.

Can you get to him?

I only interviewed him once.

He's kind of a character.

I like characters.

I'll take him.

Good. You take him.

Also, we should be

talking to, uh,

the lawyer who repped the

victims in the Porter case.

Eric Macleish.

Uh-huh.

That guy was always on TV.

Yeah, the Porter case?

Remind me.

Yeah, um, Father Porter, similar story.

Molested dozens of kids in

Fall River about 10 years ago.

So, we're dropping

the Boston PD?

I vote yes.

No, no.

We just gotta set

it aside for now.

Listen, I don't need

to tell you guys this.

We need to be more

discreet than usual.

All right?

Everybody's gonna be interested in this,

not just the Herald.

We can't let Cardinal Law get wind

of this until we know what we have.

Good luck with that.

So when

do you leave, Nana?

The bus is picking us up in the

church parking lot at 9:00.

We have 40 people going.

And is Father Dominic going?

No, he says

he's unlucky.

But luck has nothing

to do with it.

You know, last time Nana won $160.

Wow.

You gonna tell her?

We don't even know

if there's a story yet.

Well, "Globe sues church"?

It's gonna be a story.

Hey, Lisa. Could you pull all the

relevant clips on that for me?

Yeah.

Is this for Spotlight?

Just drop them off

when they're ready? Thanks.

Excuse me, do you know where

the publisher's office is?

Will do.

How are you, Marty?

Settling in?

Yeah, I think so.

Good.

What can I do for you?

Um...

I'd like to challenge the protective

order in the Geoghan case.

You want to sue

the Catholic Church?

Um...

We're just

filing a motion, but...

Yes.

You think

it's that important?

Yes, I do.

Because obviously the Church

will fight us very hard on this.

Which won't go unnoticed

by our subscriber base.

53% of them are Catholic.

Mmm-hmm.

I think

they'll be interested.

Okay.

Marty, Lake Street

will probably contact you

about a face-to-face

with the Cardinal.

It's customary.

Yeah. They already have.

It's set up for next week.

I wouldn't mention this.

Hello?

Hello?

Can I help you?

Oh, hi.

I'm Mike Rezendes

from The Boston Globe.

I'm here to see

Mitchell Garabedian.

He's on a call.

Please have a seat.

Okay.

All right, I'm listening.

Go ahead.

Okay.

Bill! Where the hell

are those papers?

I asked you to

put 'em on my desk!

The famous Walter Robinson

in my conference room.

Good to see you again, Eric.

Sacha Pfeiffer,

Eric Macleish.

Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

You don't play golf,

do you?

Uh, no.

Good.

Your colleague here

took some money off me

at a charity event

last year.

It was a very lucky putt. I actually

had my eyes closed, by the way.

Mmm-hmm.

So, how can I help

you guys?

Uh...

You're familiar

with the Geoghan case?

Sure.

Eighty plaintiffs.

All of them individual cases.

Garabedian must be swimming.

Well. And the allegations

against Cardinal Law?

Yeah, it's tricky. Um...

This is what you need to understand.

These are shitty cases.

The statute of limitations

is only three years,

and most of these victims don't

come forward until long after that.

Oh. Why is that?

Well, they're kids,

you know.

Guilt, shame.

And most of these kids come

from tough neighborhoods.

Nobody wants to admit

this kind of thing.

So, you're screwed

on the time limit.

And, uh,

even if you argue

your way around that

the charitable immunity statute

caps damages at 20 grand.

Twenty grand for

molesting a child?

That is the way

the system is set up. Yes.

The Church is tough.

So, your best shot

is to try these cases

in the press

like I did on Porter.

Hmm. But, you know,

most of the victims,

they don't wanna have

anything to do with TV.

And, uh,

Mitch isn't exactly

a people person.

Yeah, and if Garabedian

can't get his victims

to go before the press,

then he's really...

That's right.

He has a long road ahead of him.

My guess is he doesn't

have anything on Law.

What? You think

he's bluffing or...

I think he's grandstanding

to cut a better deal.

Seems a bit reckless.

Have you met

Mitch Garabedian?

I asked you to write up that motion,

Bill. I didn't ask you to file it.

Hey, Bill, here's

the case files from yesterday.

Hi.

Who are you?

I'm Mike Rezendes from The Boston Globe.

I had an appointment

with you about an hour ago.

I can't talk to you.

I'm very busy. Sharon!

No, no. She went out for coffee.

She said she'd be right back.

I'm following up

on an article.

The one in the Phoenix?

No. In the Globe.

Did you see

the one in the Phoenix?

No, I didn't.

I thought it was very good.

I have a copy here somewhere.

That's all right.

I'll track it down.

I'm actually

following up on a column

that Eileen McNamara

wrote about your suit.

Suits.

There are 84 of them.

It's not a class action.

You should get your facts straight.

No, you're right. I should.

So I'm trying to get some

background information on...

You're not

recording this, are you?

No, I wouldn't do

that without asking.

I can't show you those Church's

documents if that's what you're after.

They're under seal.

Yeah, I know that.

Did you know that

they tried to bring me up

before the Massachusetts Board

of Bar Overseers three times?

They're watching me

very closely.

The Church?

Yeah. The Church. Yeah.

They'd like to get me disbarred.

In fact, put that away.

Put it away.

Sure.

I don't want you recording this

in any way, shape or form.

Not on paper,

not on tape, nothing.

In fact, I probably shouldn't

even be speaking to you. So...

Look, Mr. Garabedian,

I know there's things

you cannot tell me,

but I also know

there's a story here.

And I think

it's an important story.

I already talked

to the Phoenix.

Yeah, and there's a reason

I didn't see it.

Nobody reads

the Phoenix anymore.

They're broke.

They don't have any power.

The Globe does.

If we cover this story,

everybody will hear about it.

The Church thinks

in centuries, Mr. Rezendes.

Do you think your paper has the

resources to take that on?

Yeah, I do.

But if you don't

mind me asking,

do you?

I can't talk to you right now,

Mr. Rezendes, I'm very, very busy.

Sharon? Yeah.

Thank you.

Can I at least talk to some

of your clients? The victims?

I'd really like

to do that.

Call me tomorrow, I gotta think about it.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Yeah, yeah.

I got more clips

from the library.

Leave 'em right there.

Are you guys doing

a story on the Church?

No, we are not doing

a story on the Church.

Matt, you find anything

on this guy, Phil Saviano?

No. Who is he?

He's part of

a victims' organization.

Kurkjian did a story on him

right after the Porter case.

There's a victims'

organization?

Yeah, it's called SNAP.

It's Survivors Network

of those Abused by Priests.

- Crummy acronym.

- Hmm.

You want me to track him down?

Yeah. Bring him in.

How much longer you need

to get through the clips?

I mean, a few days.

There's a lot.

Lisa's still sending up more.

Okay.

Hey, guys. I think I got

another priest.

Liam Barrett.

Molested some kids in Philly

and was moved to Boston.

Did the same thing

and was moved again.

Really?

That sounds like Geoghan.

Is that one of our clips?

Yeah. Byline's

Diego Ribadeneira, 1997.

Must've been back when

he was working Religion.

Was there any folo?

Not much. One short piece.

Huh.

The Church settled the case.

Don't you know

Jim Sullivan?

Yeah. Why?

Looks like the Church

brought him in to help out.

Jesus...

Has anybody but Manny gotten

the ball out of the infield?

Nope. Why do you even

bother with that thing?

It distracts me

from the game.

Know what else

is good for that?

Oh, yeah. Good idea.

My round. I'll be right back.

Anybody want any food?

No.

I'm all set.

Hey, a hot dog.

So you guys

making any progress?

Absolutely. It's a good story.

Why?

Because you're another lapsed

Catholic pissed off at the Church?

We've got a lot of good stuff.

Like what?

I'm just watching the game.

Omertà.

They got another priest,

Liam Barrett.

We reported on him.

I'm just saying, we did.

Okay,

but this guy was shuffled around from

parish to parish every few years,

just like Geoghan

and Porter.

I think there's a pattern.

Sounds thin.

What else you got?

Sacha's got another guy from a

victims' organization, Phil Saviano.

From SNAP? Oh, boy.

We reported on him, too.

I thought you were watching

the game, Steve.

That guy's pretty

banged up, Mike.

We did a couple

stories on him.

That guy would not

stop writing letters.

He wants a holy war.

What? So he's not

worth talking to?

Where are you

on Garabedian?

I'm working on it.

Robby said Macleish

thinks he's bluffing.

I think there's

something there, Ben.

Get me something solid,

or I'm taking you off it.

I don't want us chasing

our tails on this.

Stay away

from that trap.

You couldn't reach that

trap in a million years, partner.

I've reached that trap before.

Yeah? Now Paul, maybe.

- How we doing?

- We're good.

We're two up in the front.

Good.

How's that new editor

working out?

Well, he doesn't

like baseball.

But he seems like

a smart guy.

Yeah, I read an article

about him.

Said he's the first

Jewish editor at the Globe.

Must have been

a slow news day.

He got a family,

this guy?

No. He is not married.

Divorced?

I don't think so, no.

So the new editor of the Globe is an

unmarried man of the Jewish faith

who hates baseball?

Yeah.

Should have given it to Ben.

He's a Bradlee,

for crying out loud.

Didn't raise his hand

fast enough, I guess.

Hey, by the way,

I've been reading about this priest,

Father Barrett.

Said you were

involved with that.

Barrett, yeah. Bad egg.

Lake Street asked

for help, I pitched in.

Victims said Cardinal Law knew about

Barrett when he came from Philly.

Is that true?

You know I can't talk

about the case, Robby.

Off the record?

Off the record

I can't talk about it.

All right.

This related to the lawsuit?

You know about that?

Look,

I don't know this guy Baron

or what his agenda is.

Frankly, I don't care.

I just don't want to see you

taking a bullet for him.

I think you're away.

Put it over here.

Let's go. Let's go.

So the other day

I was on the World Wide Web.

Anything you want to know.

It's right there.

Now, I have to admit

that as a priest,

this makes me

a little nervous.

Should I be worried

about job security?

I don't think so.

You see,

knowledge is one thing,

but faith...

Faith is another.

Hey.

Hey.

Shouldn't you be

golfing or something?

Golfing's not a verb.

And I couldn't get

a tee time.

Is that what they call it?

"Tee time"?

They also call it "a leisure activity."

You ought to try it, Mike.

I do. I run.

Yeah, you run to work.

So why are you here today?

Going over these clips

of Saviano.

Yep, Ben and Steve

think it's a dead end.

They gave me a bunch of

crap about it at the game.

Yeah, Ben emailed me.

He did?

Yeah.

He said we should

let it go.

What do you wanna do?

I wanna bring Saviano in.

So, just ignore those guys?

I think we've got to start

ignoring everybody on this one.

I'm good with that.

Mmm.

Do you think Marty has any idea

what's coming down the pike?

Nope. I don't think

he cares either.

That's refreshing.

Yeah.

Unless he's wrong.

I've always been

fascinated with the newspaper business.

I used to sit in on the lectures

with the Nieman fellows

when I was at Harvard.

I read that you were

an editor once.

Oh, yes.

Yeah, that was

a very long time ago.

The Mississippi Register.

Small, diocesan newspaper.

But for a 30-year-old pastor,

it was a big responsibility.

Too much at times.

How so?

I was close with

the Evers brothers.

We took a stand

on civil rights.

Our readership

was not pleased.

They saw me

as a meddling outsider.

I can imagine.

Tough seat to sit in,

especially in a small town.

I think you'll find that Boston's

still a small town, too, Marty,

in many ways.

But if I can be of any help,

Marty, don't hesitate to ask.

I find that

the city flourishes

when its great institutions

work together.

Thank you.

Personally I'm of the opinion that for

a paper to best perform its function,

it really needs

to stand alone.

Ah. Of course.

But my offer still stands.

Thank you.

Come in.

Ah!

Thank you, Maureen.

A little gift, Marty.

Think of it as a Cardinal's

guide to the city of Boston.

I'm here to see

Sacha Pfeiffer.

Your name?

Phil Saviano.

Okay, just a minute.

So am I the first

survivor you've talked to?

Yeah, Phil.

You are.

Okay, well...

First of all, let me say thank you

for having me in today.

And I want you to know

that you have the full cooperation

of my organization, SNAP.

How many members are in

your organization, Phil?

We had 11 at

our last chapter meeting...

Uh, no, 10.

Karen just moved.

You had a woman

in your group?

Of course there was a woman.

They don't discriminate,

not when it comes to abuse.

And this has nothing

to do with being gay.

What this is, is priests using

the collar to rape kids.

Kids. Boys and girls.

I was 11,

and I was preyed upon by Father

David Holley in Worcester.

And I don't mean prayed for.

I mean preyed upon.

Are any of you Catholic?

I was raised Catholic.

Now I go to my wife's Presbyterian church.

I'm lapsed.

I go to church with

my grandmother sometimes.

It's safe to say we were all

raised Catholic, but now...

Not so much.

Okay. Well,

let me tell you.

When you're a poor kid from a poor

family, religion counts for a lot.

And when a priest pays attention

to you, it's a big deal.

He asks you to collect

the hymnals

or take out the trash,

you feel special.

It's like God

asking for help.

So maybe it's a little weird

when he tells you a dirty joke,

but now you got a secret

together, so you go along.

Then he shows you a porno mag,

and you go along.

And you go along,

and you go along,

until one day he asks you to jerk

him off or give him a blow job.

And so you go along

with that, too,

because you feel trapped,

because he has groomed you.

How do you say

no to God, right?

See,

it is important to understand that

this is not just physical abuse,

it's spiritual abuse, too.

And when a priest does this to you,

he robs you of your faith.

So you reach for

the bottle or the needle.

Or if those don't work,

you jump off a bridge.

That's why we call

ourselves survivors.

Have you read

Jason Berry's book?

He wrote about the Gauthe

case in Louisiana?

Uh, that's "G"...

G-A-U-T-H-E.

Here. And talk to

Richard Sipe.

He worked in one of the

Church's treatment centers.

He's an ex-priest,

married a nun.

Here.

This is his testimony

from the Kos case.

Uh, Phil,

what's a treatment center?

It's where they send priests

when they get caught.

This is all right here

in the box,

I sent this all to you guys

five years ago.

Uh, to the Globe?

Who did you send it to?

I don't wanna say who, but they

said that they weren't interested.

Uh, but Phil, we did run a

couple of stories on you.

I saw them in the clips.

Yeah, but to be completely frank,

it wasn't enough.

You guys gotta understand,

this is big.

This is not just Boston. It's the

whole country. It's the whole world.

And it goes right

up to the Vatican.

Do you have any

proof of that, Phil?

No, not yet. But think about it,

there are so many of them.

How else could they have

hidden it for so long?

So many what?

Priests!

Priests!

I know of 13

right here in Boston.

You know 13 priests in Boston

who have molested children?

Yeah, why do you keep

repeating everything I say?

I just like to

clarify things.

Maybe you should have

clarified it five years ago

when I sent you

all of this stuff!

It's all right here!

May I use your bathroom?

Yeah, sure, Phil.

Come on.

Well, what do you think?

Well, the guy, he's got an agenda,

that's for sure.

You think?

He's obviously been through a lot.

But he's smart, and if he's

right about 13 priests...

Yeah, it might be

a big "if" with this guy.

Do a background check

on him,

and follow up with some of the

other survivors of his group.

I'll track down

this ex-priest, Sipe.

Okay, but stay on Garabedian.

That's more important.

Garabedian,

what a pain in the ass.

You can be a pain

in the ass, Mike.

Mmm.

Mitchell, what a surprise.

How are you?

I'm fine, Mr. Rezendes.

Good.

You know, I haven't heard back from you.

I left you a couple of messages.

I know. I've been very busy.

I don't have time for calls.

Oh, jeez,

I'm sure you don't.

Listen, listen, Mitch, let me

talk to a couple of the victims.

You could sit in

on the interview,

and if you're not happy,

you could kill it.

I spoke to my clients, and they don't

want to be in the press. I'm sorry.

I get that, but I don't need

to name names.

I don't believe you, Mr. Rezendes.

I'm sure you don't.

I don't.

Listen, Mitchell.

Look, Mr. Rezendes,

please...

I'm not writing

a profile here.

I'm working on something bigger.

Bigger?

I don't know

what that means.

I'm not supposed

to tell you this,

but I'm digging around

for Spotlight.

Spotlight's on this?

Yeah, we're looking into it,

but you gotta help me.

You gotta let me talk to some

of these victims, please.

Please.

Come back tomorrow.

9:30 a.m.

Thank you.

Ms. Pfeiffer?

Joe?

Hi.

Oh, shoot.

Oh, that's okay.

Sorry.

No, no problem.

Please sit.

Thank you.

Is this table okay?

This is perfect.

I had a muffin

while I was waiting.

Two, actually.

I eat when I'm nervous.

I do that, too, actually.

I hope I'm not late.

Phil told me 1:00.

No, you're fine.

I got here early.

About an hour.

Um, would you mind if I took some notes?

Would that be all right?

You don't mind

if I take some notes, do you?

- Are you going to use my name?

- No.

Not if you don't

want me to. No.

I just had a kid.

He's only one, but I'm not sure

I want him to know about this.

Sure. I get that.

You can stop this interview

at any time, Patrick.

All right?

Okay.

Go ahead with your notes.

Okay. So, um...

Where'd you live

when it first happened?

In the projects,

over in Hyde Park.

Over by the Stop & Shop?

Yeah, you know it?

Yeah, I drove a cab

for a few years.

Open early.

Bad coffee, right?

Yeah, I guess.

How old were you

when it happened?

I was 12.

Just after my dad

killed himself.

Ah, jeez.

He was a real

piece of shit.

And my mom,

she wasn't so stable either.

How do you mean?

I mean, she was nuts.

She was a schizophrenic.

Same shit.

When did you

first meet Geoghan?

Well, my sister,

she saw him over

in the Dunkin' Donuts.

Tells him about my old man passing,

and he rushed right over.

And there was this nun,

Sister Barbara,

and she ran this group for

kids from troubled families.

Mmm-hmm.

Where was that?

St. Ambrose in Dorchester.

Okay.

She's the one who introduced

me to Father Shanley.

He was a street priest.

Long hair. Very hip.

He invited me to his

apartment in Back Bay.

Where in Back Bay?

Beacon Street.

Beacon. Okay.

Are you from here?

Uh, no. I grew up in Ohio,

but my mom's from Southie.

Okay, so you get it.

I'd never even seen Back Bay.

So what happened

on that first visit, Joe?

Well, he was very nice

at first,

very funny, very casual.

And I think he could tell

I was gay,

so he showed me this mobile he had,

like, over a baby's crib?

Mmm-hmm.

But with different words.

"Homosexual,

transsexual, bisexual."

Okay, and did you know you

were gay at that time, Joe?

Yeah.

But that wasn't information

I was sharing with anybody.

Not in Dorchester.

Okay.

So, what happened after

he showed you the mobile?

Well, I was

a little freaked out.

Mmm-hmm.

I think he could tell,

so he said, "You know what'll

help is if we play strip poker."

Course I lost.

And, uh, things went on

from there.

Can you tell me

specifically what happened?

Specifically, he...

He molested me.

Joe, I think that the language is

going to be so important here.

We can't sanitize this.

Just saying "molest" isn't enough.

People need to know

what actually happened.

We should probably get these to go.

Right.

Geoghan shows up,

and my mom, you know, she's...

She's thrilled.

I mean...

This was like God

showing up, you know?

Sure. Right.

So what happened then?

You really want to

hear this shit?

Yeah. Yeah, Patrick, I do.

He offers to take me

to get ice cream.

And, you know, he's a priest.

I'm a kid, so I go.

Sure.

So we're driving home and he...

He starts patting my leg,

you know, then

his hand just slides right up,

and he grabs my dick.

You know, I just froze up.

I was fucking petrified, I couldn't move.

I didn't know what to do.

I was just a little kid.

Yeah.

You know, I never even

touched my ice cream.

It just melted down my arm.

Did you, um...

Did you see him again

after that?

Yeah.

All right. That's good.

Let's stop there for now.

Sure.

He said it was a way to make me

more comfortable with my body.