Spotlight (2015) - full transcript

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How's that going?

The mother's bawling
and the uncle's pissed off.

She's not married?

Divorced with four kids.

I guess Father
was helping out.

Helping out?

Hey, Mr. Burke,
they're in back talking to the bishop.

And Father?
We put him in the break room.

Any press?

Some guy from the Citizen
but we sent him away.



None of the big papers.

Let's keep it that way.

Who's that?
Assistant DA.

It's gonna be hard to keep the
papers away from the arraignment.

What arraignment?

You can tell Father Geoghan
it won't be much longer.

Now, Sheila, you know what good
work the church does in the community.

But I give you
my personal guarantee

that I'm going to take
Father out of the parish,

and this will never
happen again.

We'll just be
another moment, Paul.

Of course, Father.

Now, Sheila, I'm going
to give you my personal card...

Losing a good reporter
is always tough.



But losing
one of our best...

Well, to put it
as eloquently as I can,

it's a real kick in the ass.

But, Robby here
has known Stewart

longer than most of you
have been alive,

so, I'll hand it off
to him. Robby.

Oh, well, thanks, Ben.
I think.

Although I take issue with your
reference to my seniority,

I will say that Stewart's departure
is especially painful for me

because, uh...
For what, Stewart?

Twenty years now?

Stewart's been more
than willing to part

with his money
at the poker table.

And I've got a kid
in college.

Yeah, but I'm gonna keep playing.
Oh, problem solved.

Godspeed then.

Now, Stewart, I find the
timing of your departure

disconcerting.

The corner office sits empty,

the new editor
arrives on Monday,

so I'm sorry, buddy,
but I gotta ask ya.

What the hell
do you know?

How's the cake?

It's really good.
Are you saving yours?

Nah, it's for Mike.
I can never eat at those things.

They kind of depress me.
I know.

Did you see the numbers
from Washington?

Yeah. Very interesting.
I think so, too.

I'm not asking if the PD's lying,
I know they're lying.

All I'm asking,
who's behind it?

Oh. Okay, I get it.
You don't want to talk.

No, Dan, I'm not mad,
I'm hungry.

I've been talking here
so long I didn't eat lunch.

So I'm gonna go
get something to eat,

and that'll give you
an hour to decide

whether you want to be
on the right side of this

or read about it
like everybody else.

Bye, Dan.

You think
Cahill has something?

Maybe. I just don't think
the story's for us.

Ben likes it. Yeah, it's not bad,
it's just not Spotlight.

What's just not Spotlight?

The PD numbers.
The numbers story. It feels thin.

Oh, you got Cahill to talk?

No, but I will.

Good. Then we'll know
if it's thin.

- How'd it go upstairs?
- Oh, okay.

- Robby gave a good speech.
- Sure he did.

I heard Lubin and Connor
are going to the Times.

- Come on, really?
- Yeah, I heard that.

They're leeching us.

Well, at least they're sending us
a guy from Miami to run things.

That should help.

Has Baron even
spent time in Boston?

I don't think he's ever been here before.
Maybe we should buy him a map.

I have a friend down in Miami
said he cut 15% of the staff.

Great...
Hey, Robby.

New boss coming in
to make some cuts?

I have no idea.

Aren't you sitting down
with him?

Yes, I am.
So is it about Spotlight?

I don't know, Mike,
but I do know

that Ben needs an answer
on the crime numbers story.

I'm telling you,
I really don't think that story's for us.

Mr. Baron.

Walter Robinson. Robby.

Thanks for taking the time
out of your weekend.

Oh, my pleasure.
Appreciate it.

What are you reading?

Uh...

The Curse of the Bambino.

Oh, yeah,
it's a great book.

The Globe has
season tickets at Fenway

once you're settled in,
by the way.

Thank you.

Uh, to be honest,
I'm not much of a baseball fan.

I'm just trying to
get a feel for the city.

Oh, yeah...

So you're originally
from Boston?

I am. Born and raised, yeah.

A lot of the newsroom
is from here.

It really feels like
a local paper in that way.

And did that change at all after
the paper was sold to the Times?

No. No, I don't think
that had a big impact.

Good.

And you're an editor
for the Spotlight team?

I'd prefer to think of myself
as player coach. But yes.

Are you familiar
with Spotlight?

No, not particularly.

Well, we are a four-person
investigative team.

We report to
Ben Bradlee, Jr.,

and we keep
our work confidential.

What're you
working on now?

We just put out a piece on a
shoddy construction outfit,

and right now we're really just
trolling around for our next story.

How long does
that typically take?

Hard to say.
A couple months.

Couple months?

Yeah, we don't like to
rush it.

Once we settle on a project, we can
spend a year or more investigating it.

Is that a concern?
Not necessarily.

Um, but from what I understand
readership is down,

Internet is cutting into
the classified business, and.

I think I'm gonna need to
take a hard look at things.

So, do you anticipate
more cuts?

I think it's safe
to assume so,

but what I'm more focused on
right now is finding a way

to make this paper
essential to its readers.

I like to think
it already is.

Fair enough. I just think
that we can do better.

Mr. Bradlee.
Hey.

Saw the PD numbers.
Looks interesting.

Yeah, there's something there.

How long do you need?
Another week.

Where're you going?
10:30.

Since when?

Technically,
I am an editor.

Technically.

Your sit-down with Baron
go that well?

I couldn't get a read on him.
That's a first.

How about you?
Oh, he's a barrel of laughs.

Morning, everyone.
Let's get started.

Do you wanna
say something, Marty?

Uh, sure.

Uh, hello.

As most of you know by now,
my name is Marty Baron,

I'm delighted to be here.

Um, if you could tell me your name
as we go around, that'd be helpful.

Thank you.

Okay. Peter?

Peter Canellos, Metro.

I've got a major
Big Dig closure.

Hey, Steve. Hey.
Mike.

Crappy game
last night, huh?

Yeah, they can't hit
worth a nickel.

Hey listen, what's Eileen McNamara
doing in the 10:30?

Do you need something, Mike?
No, just curious.

Go be curious somewhere else.
I got work to do, huh?

Okay, Steve.

See you.
Yeah.

And it looks like Pedro's gonna
be out until September 1st.

Jimmy says he'll be back this year,
but the doc didn't seem so sure.

When's the Pats' opener?

Is that everyone?

Yes, that's it.
Okay. Good.

Thank you. Uh...

Did everyone read
Eileen McNamara's column this weekend?

That's the Geoghan case?

Yeah, what's the folo
on that?

It's a column, what kind
of folo were you thinking?

Uh, well, apparently
this priest molested kids

in six different parishes
over the last 30 years,

and the attorney
for the victims, Mr...

Garabedian.
Thanks, Eileen.

Mr. Garabedian says
Cardinal Law found out

about it 15 years ago
and did nothing.

Yeah, I think that
attorney's a bit of a crank,

and the church
dismissed the claim.

He said, she said.

Whether Mr. Garabedian
is a crank or not

he says he has documents
that prove the cardinal knew.

As I understand it,
those documents are under seal.

Okay, but the fact remains,
a Boston priest abused 80 kids,

we have a lawyer who says he
can prove Law knew about it,

and we've written all of, uh,
two stories in the last six months.

This strikes me as an essential
story to a local paper.

I think at the very least, we have
to go through those documents.

How would you
like to do that?

Oh, uh...

I don't know
what the laws are here,

but in Florida
we would go to court.

You want to sue the church?

Technically we wouldn't
sue the church.

We'd file a motion to lift
the seal on those documents.

The church will read that
as us suing them.

So will everybody else.

Good to know.

Gutsy call
for the first day.

That's one word for it.

How do you think that's
gonna play down front?

I think Gilman's
gonna shit a brick.

Hey.
Door.

How'd it go?

Well, Baron wants to sue for the
sealed docs in the Geoghan case.

Wants to sue the church?
Hey, that's great.

We covered Geoghan when the
story broke three years ago.

Baron was still in Miami.

I think he might have been
at the Times then, actually.

He wasn't here.

So do you think
that suit has a chance?

Depends on the judge.

And what parish he belongs to.

Bradlee. Yeah.

Okay.

Baron wants to talk to us.

Us?

Okay, Jon. Thank you.

Yes. Okay, thanks.

I've set up a meeting for
tomorrow with outside counsel.

Jon Albano?
Yeah.

Who's the judge
in this case?

Um...

Constance Sweeney.

Tough.
Why's that?

Good Catholic girl.
Huh.

So, um,

judging from what I've read,
it doesn't seem like we've done

a very thorough investigation
into the Geoghan case.

Is that right?
No, it's not.

We looked hard at Geoghan.

David Armstrong from Metro,
Michael Paulson for Religion.

Okay, but, uh,
just so I understand,

beyond our daily coverage,
we haven't...

We haven't committed any long-term
investigative resources

to the question of whether or not
Cardinal Law knew about this?

No, we haven't.

And that's the kind of thing
your team would do?

Spotlight? Well, yeah.

But we're still prospecting the
Boston PD story I told you about.

Could you set that aside?

We could.

Marty, in past Spotlight's
had success in large part

because they pick
their own projects.

Would you consider
picking this one?

I don't know if
he's writing about you,

but I will let him know
you called.

Okay, bye.

Hey.
Hey, how'd it go?

Okay. Uh...

Baron wants us to scrub
the Geoghan case.

That's great.
Didn't we cover Geoghan?

Yeah, there's a lawyer alleging
Cardinal Law knew about it.

- Mmm. Mitch Garabedian, right?
- Yeah.

I covered him
at the courthouse.

Can you get to him?
I only interviewed him once.

He's kind of a character.

I like characters.
I'll take him.

Good. You take him.

Also, we should be
talking to, uh,

the lawyer who repped the
victims in the Porter case.

Eric Macleish.
Uh-huh.

That guy was always on TV.
Yeah, the Porter case?

Remind me.
Yeah, um, Father Porter, similar story.

Molested dozens of kids in
Fall River about 10 years ago.

So, we're dropping
the Boston PD?

I vote yes.
No, no.

We just gotta set
it aside for now.

Listen, I don't need
to tell you guys this.

We need to be more
discreet than usual.

All right?

Everybody's gonna be interested in this,
not just the Herald.

We can't let Cardinal Law get wind
of this until we know what we have.

Good luck with that.

So when
do you leave, Nana?

The bus is picking us up in the
church parking lot at 9:00.

We have 40 people going.

And is Father Dominic going?

No, he says
he's unlucky.

But luck has nothing
to do with it.

You know, last time Nana won $160.
Wow.

You gonna tell her?

We don't even know
if there's a story yet.

Well, "Globe sues church"?
It's gonna be a story.

Hey, Lisa. Could you pull all the
relevant clips on that for me?

Yeah.

Is this for Spotlight?

Just drop them off
when they're ready? Thanks.

Excuse me, do you know where
the publisher's office is?

Will do.

How are you, Marty?

Settling in?

Yeah, I think so.
Good.

What can I do for you?

Um...

I'd like to challenge the protective
order in the Geoghan case.

You want to sue
the Catholic Church?

Um...

We're just
filing a motion, but...

Yes.

You think
it's that important?

Yes, I do.

Because obviously the Church
will fight us very hard on this.

Which won't go unnoticed
by our subscriber base.

53% of them are Catholic.

Mmm-hmm.

I think
they'll be interested.

Okay.

Marty, Lake Street
will probably contact you

about a face-to-face
with the Cardinal.

It's customary.

Yeah. They already have.
It's set up for next week.

I wouldn't mention this.

Hello?

Hello?

Can I help you?
Oh, hi.

I'm Mike Rezendes
from The Boston Globe.

I'm here to see
Mitchell Garabedian.

He's on a call.
Please have a seat.

Okay.

All right, I'm listening.
Go ahead.

Okay.

Bill! Where the hell
are those papers?

I asked you to
put 'em on my desk!

The famous Walter Robinson
in my conference room.

Good to see you again, Eric.

Sacha Pfeiffer,
Eric Macleish.

Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.

You don't play golf,
do you?

Uh, no.
Good.

Your colleague here
took some money off me

at a charity event
last year.

It was a very lucky putt. I actually
had my eyes closed, by the way.

Mmm-hmm.

So, how can I help
you guys?

Uh...

You're familiar
with the Geoghan case?

Sure.

Eighty plaintiffs.
All of them individual cases.

Garabedian must be swimming.

Well. And the allegations
against Cardinal Law?

Yeah, it's tricky. Um...

This is what you need to understand.
These are shitty cases.

The statute of limitations
is only three years,

and most of these victims don't
come forward until long after that.

Oh. Why is that?

Well, they're kids,
you know.

Guilt, shame.

And most of these kids come
from tough neighborhoods.

Nobody wants to admit
this kind of thing.

So, you're screwed
on the time limit.

And, uh,

even if you argue
your way around that

the charitable immunity statute
caps damages at 20 grand.

Twenty grand for
molesting a child?

That is the way
the system is set up. Yes.

The Church is tough.

So, your best shot
is to try these cases

in the press
like I did on Porter.

Hmm. But, you know,
most of the victims,

they don't wanna have
anything to do with TV.

And, uh,

Mitch isn't exactly
a people person.

Yeah, and if Garabedian
can't get his victims

to go before the press,
then he's really...

That's right.
He has a long road ahead of him.

My guess is he doesn't
have anything on Law.

What? You think
he's bluffing or...

I think he's grandstanding
to cut a better deal.

Seems a bit reckless.

Have you met
Mitch Garabedian?

I asked you to write up that motion,
Bill. I didn't ask you to file it.

Hey, Bill, here's
the case files from yesterday.

Hi.

Who are you?
I'm Mike Rezendes from The Boston Globe.

I had an appointment
with you about an hour ago.

I can't talk to you.
I'm very busy. Sharon!

No, no. She went out for coffee.
She said she'd be right back.

I'm following up
on an article.

The one in the Phoenix?
No. In the Globe.

Did you see
the one in the Phoenix?

No, I didn't.
I thought it was very good.

I have a copy here somewhere.

That's all right.
I'll track it down.

I'm actually
following up on a column

that Eileen McNamara
wrote about your suit.

Suits.
There are 84 of them.

It's not a class action.

You should get your facts straight.
No, you're right. I should.

So I'm trying to get some
background information on...

You're not
recording this, are you?

No, I wouldn't do
that without asking.

I can't show you those Church's
documents if that's what you're after.

They're under seal.

Yeah, I know that.

Did you know that
they tried to bring me up

before the Massachusetts Board
of Bar Overseers three times?

They're watching me
very closely.

The Church?
Yeah. The Church. Yeah.

They'd like to get me disbarred.
In fact, put that away.

Put it away.
Sure.

I don't want you recording this
in any way, shape or form.

Not on paper,
not on tape, nothing.

In fact, I probably shouldn't
even be speaking to you. So...

Look, Mr. Garabedian,

I know there's things
you cannot tell me,

but I also know
there's a story here.

And I think
it's an important story.

I already talked
to the Phoenix.

Yeah, and there's a reason
I didn't see it.

Nobody reads
the Phoenix anymore.

They're broke.
They don't have any power.

The Globe does.

If we cover this story,
everybody will hear about it.

The Church thinks
in centuries, Mr. Rezendes.

Do you think your paper has the
resources to take that on?

Yeah, I do.

But if you don't
mind me asking,

do you?

I can't talk to you right now,
Mr. Rezendes, I'm very, very busy.

Sharon? Yeah.
Thank you.

Can I at least talk to some
of your clients? The victims?

I'd really like
to do that.

Call me tomorrow, I gotta think about it.
Thank you.

Thanks.
Yeah, yeah.

I got more clips
from the library.

Leave 'em right there.

Are you guys doing
a story on the Church?

No, we are not doing
a story on the Church.

Matt, you find anything
on this guy, Phil Saviano?

No. Who is he?

He's part of
a victims' organization.

Kurkjian did a story on him
right after the Porter case.

There's a victims'
organization?

Yeah, it's called SNAP.

It's Survivors Network
of those Abused by Priests.

- Crummy acronym.
- Hmm.

You want me to track him down?
Yeah. Bring him in.

How much longer you need
to get through the clips?

I mean, a few days.
There's a lot.

Lisa's still sending up more.
Okay.

Hey, guys. I think I got
another priest.

Liam Barrett.
Molested some kids in Philly

and was moved to Boston.

Did the same thing
and was moved again.

Really?
That sounds like Geoghan.

Is that one of our clips?

Yeah. Byline's
Diego Ribadeneira, 1997.

Must've been back when
he was working Religion.

Was there any folo?
Not much. One short piece.

Huh.
The Church settled the case.

Don't you know
Jim Sullivan?

Yeah. Why?

Looks like the Church
brought him in to help out.

Jesus...

Has anybody but Manny gotten
the ball out of the infield?

Nope. Why do you even
bother with that thing?

It distracts me
from the game.

Know what else
is good for that?

Oh, yeah. Good idea.
My round. I'll be right back.

Anybody want any food?
No.

I'm all set.
Hey, a hot dog.

So you guys
making any progress?

Absolutely. It's a good story.
Why?

Because you're another lapsed
Catholic pissed off at the Church?

We've got a lot of good stuff.
Like what?

I'm just watching the game.
Omertà.

They got another priest,
Liam Barrett.

We reported on him.

I'm just saying, we did.
Okay,

but this guy was shuffled around from
parish to parish every few years,

just like Geoghan
and Porter.

I think there's a pattern.

Sounds thin.
What else you got?

Sacha's got another guy from a
victims' organization, Phil Saviano.

From SNAP? Oh, boy.
We reported on him, too.

I thought you were watching
the game, Steve.

That guy's pretty
banged up, Mike.

We did a couple
stories on him.

That guy would not
stop writing letters.

He wants a holy war.

What? So he's not
worth talking to?

Where are you
on Garabedian?

I'm working on it.

Robby said Macleish
thinks he's bluffing.

I think there's
something there, Ben.

Get me something solid,
or I'm taking you off it.

I don't want us chasing
our tails on this.

Stay away
from that trap.

You couldn't reach that
trap in a million years, partner.

I've reached that trap before.

Yeah? Now Paul, maybe.

- How we doing?
- We're good.

We're two up in the front.

Good.

How's that new editor
working out?

Well, he doesn't
like baseball.

But he seems like
a smart guy.

Yeah, I read an article
about him.

Said he's the first
Jewish editor at the Globe.

Must have been
a slow news day.

He got a family,
this guy?

No. He is not married.

Divorced?
I don't think so, no.

So the new editor of the Globe is an
unmarried man of the Jewish faith

who hates baseball?

Yeah.
Should have given it to Ben.

He's a Bradlee,
for crying out loud.

Didn't raise his hand
fast enough, I guess.

Hey, by the way,

I've been reading about this priest,
Father Barrett.

Said you were
involved with that.

Barrett, yeah. Bad egg.

Lake Street asked
for help, I pitched in.

Victims said Cardinal Law knew about
Barrett when he came from Philly.

Is that true?

You know I can't talk
about the case, Robby.

Off the record?

Off the record
I can't talk about it.

All right.
This related to the lawsuit?

You know about that?

Look,

I don't know this guy Baron
or what his agenda is.

Frankly, I don't care.

I just don't want to see you
taking a bullet for him.

I think you're away.

Put it over here.
Let's go. Let's go.

So the other day
I was on the World Wide Web.

Anything you want to know.
It's right there.

Now, I have to admit
that as a priest,

this makes me
a little nervous.

Should I be worried
about job security?

I don't think so.

You see,
knowledge is one thing,

but faith...

Faith is another.

Hey.

Hey.

Shouldn't you be
golfing or something?

Golfing's not a verb.

And I couldn't get
a tee time.

Is that what they call it?
"Tee time"?

They also call it "a leisure activity."
You ought to try it, Mike.

I do. I run.
Yeah, you run to work.

So why are you here today?

Going over these clips
of Saviano.

Yep, Ben and Steve
think it's a dead end.

They gave me a bunch of
crap about it at the game.

Yeah, Ben emailed me.

He did?
Yeah.

He said we should
let it go.

What do you wanna do?

I wanna bring Saviano in.

So, just ignore those guys?

I think we've got to start
ignoring everybody on this one.

I'm good with that.

Mmm.

Do you think Marty has any idea
what's coming down the pike?

Nope. I don't think
he cares either.

That's refreshing.

Yeah.

Unless he's wrong.

I've always been
fascinated with the newspaper business.

I used to sit in on the lectures
with the Nieman fellows

when I was at Harvard.

I read that you were
an editor once.

Oh, yes.

Yeah, that was
a very long time ago.

The Mississippi Register.

Small, diocesan newspaper.

But for a 30-year-old pastor,
it was a big responsibility.

Too much at times.

How so?

I was close with
the Evers brothers.

We took a stand
on civil rights.

Our readership
was not pleased.

They saw me
as a meddling outsider.

I can imagine.

Tough seat to sit in,

especially in a small town.

I think you'll find that Boston's
still a small town, too, Marty,

in many ways.

But if I can be of any help,
Marty, don't hesitate to ask.

I find that
the city flourishes

when its great institutions
work together.

Thank you.

Personally I'm of the opinion that for
a paper to best perform its function,

it really needs
to stand alone.

Ah. Of course.

But my offer still stands.

Thank you.

Come in.

Ah!

Thank you, Maureen.

A little gift, Marty.

Think of it as a Cardinal's
guide to the city of Boston.

I'm here to see
Sacha Pfeiffer.

Your name?
Phil Saviano.

Okay, just a minute.

So am I the first
survivor you've talked to?

Yeah, Phil.
You are.

Okay, well...

First of all, let me say thank you
for having me in today.

And I want you to know

that you have the full cooperation
of my organization, SNAP.

How many members are in
your organization, Phil?

We had 11 at
our last chapter meeting...

Uh, no, 10.
Karen just moved.

You had a woman
in your group?

Of course there was a woman.
They don't discriminate,

not when it comes to abuse.

And this has nothing
to do with being gay.

What this is, is priests using
the collar to rape kids.

Kids. Boys and girls.

I was 11,

and I was preyed upon by Father
David Holley in Worcester.

And I don't mean prayed for.
I mean preyed upon.

Are any of you Catholic?

I was raised Catholic.
Now I go to my wife's Presbyterian church.

I'm lapsed.

I go to church with
my grandmother sometimes.

It's safe to say we were all
raised Catholic, but now...

Not so much.

Okay. Well,
let me tell you.

When you're a poor kid from a poor
family, religion counts for a lot.

And when a priest pays attention
to you, it's a big deal.

He asks you to collect
the hymnals

or take out the trash,
you feel special.

It's like God
asking for help.

So maybe it's a little weird
when he tells you a dirty joke,

but now you got a secret
together, so you go along.

Then he shows you a porno mag,
and you go along.

And you go along,
and you go along,

until one day he asks you to jerk
him off or give him a blow job.

And so you go along
with that, too,

because you feel trapped,

because he has groomed you.

How do you say
no to God, right?

See,

it is important to understand that
this is not just physical abuse,

it's spiritual abuse, too.

And when a priest does this to you,
he robs you of your faith.

So you reach for
the bottle or the needle.

Or if those don't work,
you jump off a bridge.

That's why we call
ourselves survivors.

Have you read
Jason Berry's book?

He wrote about the Gauthe
case in Louisiana?

Uh, that's "G"...
G-A-U-T-H-E.

Here. And talk to
Richard Sipe.

He worked in one of the
Church's treatment centers.

He's an ex-priest,

married a nun.

Here.

This is his testimony
from the Kos case.

Uh, Phil,
what's a treatment center?

It's where they send priests
when they get caught.

This is all right here
in the box,

I sent this all to you guys
five years ago.

Uh, to the Globe?
Who did you send it to?

I don't wanna say who, but they
said that they weren't interested.

Uh, but Phil, we did run a
couple of stories on you.

I saw them in the clips.

Yeah, but to be completely frank,
it wasn't enough.

You guys gotta understand,

this is big.

This is not just Boston. It's the
whole country. It's the whole world.

And it goes right
up to the Vatican.

Do you have any
proof of that, Phil?

No, not yet. But think about it,
there are so many of them.

How else could they have
hidden it for so long?

So many what?
Priests!

Priests!

I know of 13
right here in Boston.

You know 13 priests in Boston
who have molested children?

Yeah, why do you keep
repeating everything I say?

I just like to
clarify things.

Maybe you should have
clarified it five years ago

when I sent you
all of this stuff!

It's all right here!

May I use your bathroom?

Yeah, sure, Phil.

Come on.

Well, what do you think?

Well, the guy, he's got an agenda,
that's for sure.

You think?
He's obviously been through a lot.

But he's smart, and if he's
right about 13 priests...

Yeah, it might be
a big "if" with this guy.

Do a background check
on him,

and follow up with some of the
other survivors of his group.

I'll track down
this ex-priest, Sipe.

Okay, but stay on Garabedian.
That's more important.

Garabedian,
what a pain in the ass.

You can be a pain
in the ass, Mike.

Mmm.

Mitchell, what a surprise.
How are you?

I'm fine, Mr. Rezendes.
Good.

You know, I haven't heard back from you.
I left you a couple of messages.

I know. I've been very busy.
I don't have time for calls.

Oh, jeez,
I'm sure you don't.

Listen, listen, Mitch, let me
talk to a couple of the victims.

You could sit in
on the interview,

and if you're not happy,
you could kill it.

I spoke to my clients, and they don't
want to be in the press. I'm sorry.

I get that, but I don't need
to name names.

I don't believe you, Mr. Rezendes.
I'm sure you don't.

I don't.
Listen, Mitchell.

Look, Mr. Rezendes,
please...

I'm not writing
a profile here.

I'm working on something bigger.
Bigger?

I don't know
what that means.

I'm not supposed
to tell you this,

but I'm digging around
for Spotlight.

Spotlight's on this?
Yeah, we're looking into it,

but you gotta help me.

You gotta let me talk to some
of these victims, please.

Please.

Come back tomorrow.
9:30 a.m.

Thank you.

Ms. Pfeiffer?
Joe?

Hi.
Oh, shoot.

Oh, that's okay.
Sorry.

No, no problem.
Please sit.

Thank you.

Is this table okay?

This is perfect.

I had a muffin
while I was waiting.

Two, actually.

I eat when I'm nervous.
I do that, too, actually.

I hope I'm not late.
Phil told me 1:00.

No, you're fine.
I got here early.

About an hour.

Um, would you mind if I took some notes?
Would that be all right?

You don't mind
if I take some notes, do you?

- Are you going to use my name?
- No.

Not if you don't
want me to. No.

I just had a kid.

He's only one, but I'm not sure
I want him to know about this.

Sure. I get that.

You can stop this interview
at any time, Patrick.

All right?
Okay.

Go ahead with your notes.

Okay. So, um...

Where'd you live
when it first happened?

In the projects,
over in Hyde Park.

Over by the Stop & Shop?

Yeah, you know it?

Yeah, I drove a cab
for a few years.

Open early.
Bad coffee, right?

Yeah, I guess.

How old were you
when it happened?

I was 12.

Just after my dad
killed himself.

Ah, jeez.

He was a real
piece of shit.

And my mom,
she wasn't so stable either.

How do you mean?
I mean, she was nuts.

She was a schizophrenic.
Same shit.

When did you
first meet Geoghan?

Well, my sister,

she saw him over
in the Dunkin' Donuts.

Tells him about my old man passing,
and he rushed right over.

And there was this nun,
Sister Barbara,

and she ran this group for
kids from troubled families.

Mmm-hmm.

Where was that?

St. Ambrose in Dorchester.
Okay.

She's the one who introduced
me to Father Shanley.

He was a street priest.

Long hair. Very hip.

He invited me to his
apartment in Back Bay.

Where in Back Bay?
Beacon Street.

Beacon. Okay.

Are you from here?

Uh, no. I grew up in Ohio,
but my mom's from Southie.

Okay, so you get it.
I'd never even seen Back Bay.

So what happened
on that first visit, Joe?

Well, he was very nice
at first,

very funny, very casual.

And I think he could tell
I was gay,

so he showed me this mobile he had,
like, over a baby's crib?

Mmm-hmm.

But with different words.

"Homosexual,
transsexual, bisexual."

Okay, and did you know you
were gay at that time, Joe?

Yeah.

But that wasn't information
I was sharing with anybody.

Not in Dorchester.

Okay.

So, what happened after
he showed you the mobile?

Well, I was
a little freaked out.

Mmm-hmm.

I think he could tell,

so he said, "You know what'll
help is if we play strip poker."

Course I lost.

And, uh, things went on
from there.

Can you tell me
specifically what happened?

Specifically, he...

He molested me.

Joe, I think that the language is
going to be so important here.

We can't sanitize this.
Just saying "molest" isn't enough.

People need to know
what actually happened.

We should probably get these to go.
Right.

Geoghan shows up,
and my mom, you know, she's...

She's thrilled.
I mean...

This was like God
showing up, you know?

Sure. Right.

So what happened then?

You really want to
hear this shit?

Yeah. Yeah, Patrick, I do.

He offers to take me
to get ice cream.

And, you know, he's a priest.
I'm a kid, so I go.

Sure.
So we're driving home and he...

He starts patting my leg,

you know, then

his hand just slides right up,
and he grabs my dick.

You know, I just froze up.
I was fucking petrified, I couldn't move.

I didn't know what to do.
I was just a little kid.

Yeah.

You know, I never even
touched my ice cream.

It just melted down my arm.

Did you, um...

Did you see him again
after that?

Yeah.

All right. That's good.
Let's stop there for now.

Sure.

He said it was a way to make me
more comfortable with my body.