One October: A Nightmare in Las Vegas (2018) - full transcript
Survivor, journalist, and attorney interviews come together to paint a picture of a community who chose strength in the face of terror, who will forever be VegasStrong.
♪ I stand beside her
♪ And guide her
♪ Through the night with
the light from above ♪
♪ From the mountains
♪ To the prairies
♪ To the ocean white with foam
Sing it now, sing it now!
- It was an irony.
You know that he was
up there in that room,
looking through that
scope, watching us do that.
- We actually were
having so much fun
before everything happened,
and then horror,
terror, blood, screams.
Run!
- It is a three-day festival.
Top country artists
that come in and play,
it runs from like four
to eleven, or midnight.
- Real cross-section
of people there,
young, old, seemed all races.
- This is the first
time I had gone.
The venue was wonderful.
And just to be with my friends.
- And it was kids and
children and you know,
everybody was there,
it's a family event.
- It was a night without
our kids and you know,
it was kinda like our
first date again, so.
- Well, I was working.
It was a great day, great music.
I mean, nobody arguing,
everybody's having a good time.
- You had worked all
weekend this concert?
- No, that's the funny thing.
That was my night for that
Sunday and the thing is
they weren't gonna use me,
because I had the
wrong-colored tennis shoes.
So they were like
well just hold off
and we'll see if we can use you.
I'm like all right,
so I just waited.
So they almost sent you home?
- One of the ladies,
she was like,
I can use some big guys.
And she was like all
right, go with her.
I'm like all right and
everybody goes like well,
you must've been
there for a reason.
I'm like, I don't know.
- It was our third
day at the concert,
so we went to the back.
Probably the first
time that we sat
in the back to
watch the concert.
Usually we were up in the front,
dancing, having a good time.
It was Sunday night,
we were flying out the next day,
Jason Aldean was the last act.
- Me and my husband had just
gotten back from the stage.
We went up to the stage
and we'd gotten a drink
at one of the bars
that were up there.
- It was getting late,
it was about ten o'clock.
And at one point I even
thought about leaving,
'cause I was tired,
it was the third day.
But it was a beautiful night
and Jason Aldean came out
and things were rockin.
- I was in the VIP area
where we were working at.
When the entertainer,
Jason, came on,
before the shooting
I remember he asking
where's all the veterans at?
Where's all my
soldiers in the crowd?
Where's the police department?
We need to quit being
disrespectful to the flag
and start saluting the flag.
That's what he said.
And when he said we're gonna
sing this song for you,
everybody raise your beer
up and raise your lights up,
that's why it was really,
really dark at that time,
because it was like a
dedication kind of song.
- I was over by
concessions so I was
about 100 yards
from my main group,
the other nine or 10
people that were with me.
And I had just went
over there for a beer
and was kinda standing
watching things from the side.
And Jason Aldean I think started
his second or third song.
- And were heard
a bunch of noise
and it sounded like fireworks.
I said wow that's
weird that fireworks
would be going off as he's
actually singing a song.
- But I knew right away
that they were gunshots
and I told him
those are gunshots.
- She knew right away
that they were gunshots
and I was what you call
a deer in the headlights.
I was lost and I
didn't believe it.
I was like no,
that's not gunshots.
- I was sitting next
to my friend, Jerry,
he said those aren't fireworks,
those are gun rounds.
And he said they're
coming from over there
and he pointed over
towards the strip.
And I thought oh,
it's probably gang-related,
the police are gonna
take care of it.
- I looked at my husband
and I grabbed his hand
and I asked him what
drunk idiot would set off
a brick of firecrackers
in a crowd of people?
And my husband,
I'll never forget
the look on his face,
because it was like
he knew it wasn't
firecrackers or fireworks.
- We were all just
kinda looking around
like who the heck is
doing fireworks right now?
And we're like okay,
where are the fireworks?
'cause you expect to
see something in the
air by that point.
And we're looking up like okay,
what the heck is that?
- My thoughts were it was just
a confrontation out on
Tropicana Boulevard.
And then the concert resumed.
- Jason Aldean paused for
a second and the music,
you could tell they
missed their chords,
but then he started back up
and people seemed to be fine.
So I thought maybe a
speaker was acting weird.
- We heard like six shots first,
different caliber.
And then we're
looking up, nothing,
then all of a sudden
another caliber
came out all with a ping sound.
I'm like no, that's
not fireworks,
that's a gun.
- We knew something
was going on,
but we were just not
reacting quite yet.
Then once Jason
Aldean ran off stage,
we kinda really knew
something was really serious.
- I looked back at my
friend and our other friend
had already said
that that's gunshots.
It was like her face was just
it was just her
eyes were teared up
and I knew that it was bad.
- And then I could see the
crowds starting to move.
They were moving towards me,
because the crowd was
between me and Mandalay.
So at that point I
knew it was gunfire.
- What I saw was
basically the front of
the stage getting
shot up pretty good.
The screens where
they showed the video
of the concert going on
so people in the back
can see what actually
the artist is doing,
was getting shot up on
the right-hand side.
- I was staring at,
I guess he was on duty officer,
but he was in the vest,
I saw him draw his gun,
duck down,
and start running straight
towards Mandalay Bay.
And I was like what
the heck is going on?
It felt like it was slow motion.
I looked over to the right
at the rest of the lounge
and it was one of the guys,
he was wearing like
the village t-shirts
like he was one
of the volunteers,
it's almost like
he made eye contact
with all of us at the same time
and he was like those
are gunshots, get down.
Get down, everybody get down.
And that's like
when it all hit us.
- After three, four
minutes went by,
that's when it hit me.
No, this could be
a terrorist attack.
Like I say,
we didn't know where
it's coming from.
But it sounded very close.
And I was calling my daughter
and leaving them a video
in case something happen.
We don't know what's going on,
but somebody is shooting at
this event that I'm working at.
And we don't know who
or is it a terrorist
attack or what?
But just in case I
don't make it out,
I just want you to
know I love you.
- We thought there
were multiple shooters
the way that it sounded,
the difference from the first
volley to the second volley.
I can't explain it,
but it sounded differently
than the firecracker round,
first round that went off.
And we started to
run not knowing
where we were gonna exit,
because the only exit we knew of
was the main entrance and exit.
- Were more people
running or hiding?
- None of us expected it to
be coming from 32 stories up,
we thought at ground level.
So I think that
most people got down
to try to avoid the
gunfire that way.
- I witnessed my best
friend, Natalie Grumet,
being shot in the face.
- I saw Natalie get shot and
Natalie's blood all over me.
And then hearing my sister
scream I'm shot, I'm shot.
She was bleeding
all over the place.
She kept saying my side.
I'm shot in my side and I
was like no, you're not,
'cause there was no blood,
the bullet had lodged.
So there was no blood,
it was stuck.
Thank god the bullet didn't
go any further or come out
'cause that could have been
a very worse-case scenario.
You shielded your
body to protect your wife.
- It was just natural instinct
I think when you love and you
care for somebody so much.
- We were on the floor and
he put his body on top of me.
I just told him I don't
care if it's not gunshots,
I just wanna leave now.
I don't wanna be here anymore.
And he said okay.
And he got up and the moment
he got up is when he got shot.
- I got struck in
my back left armpit
and it shot out the
front of my chest.
I got really mad and
angry and I cursed
'cause I knew somebody shot me.
And I was just screaming
at whoever it was,
I didn't know who it was,
but I just knew I was shot.
- I was in shock.
I couldn't move anymore.
He was trying to get me to like
talk to him and I couldn't.
He just grabbed my hand and
he just told me I got shot,
I need you to run and
don't stop running.
And I couldn't move.
I didn't even respond to him.
An he's like are
you listening to me?
I need you to run.
- It was a nightmare.
We were at a war and
it just felt like
it's people after us right now.
Hey there's
some guy right up there,
you see him?
I don't know.
- Our group said to get down,
but the seats were so small.
They were like little
tiny stadium seating,
they were very small,
so getting down meant just,
I mean what are you gonna do?
You're still exposed.
I mean I had 11 friends
and I was alone,
I didn't know where anybody was.
I sent out a text to my family.
We have a group family text,
there's like 25 of us on it,
and I just said shots
fired, I loved you.
I'm sorry.
The guns were just, the noise,
it sounded like a machine gun.
And it just wouldn't stop.
And it started to
hit the bleachers
and ricochet off and I just
laid down on the ground
and just like I knew
it was gonna hit me.
For some reason I just felt
like it was gonna hit my back.
And I didn't think it was fair
'cause I just had a grandchild.
- Everything was going
through our heads,
but at the same time
we're having that moment
where it's just like,
we're gonna die.
We're gonna die tonight.
Luckily, there was a good amount
of space in between
the bleachers.
But we were practically
laying on top of each other,
like everybody who
was in that row.
I'm looking down
and I see a lady
who had been shot on her
abdomen on the left side
and she was laying
like flat on her back.
She was alone and I
couldn't reach her.
We were six to
eight feet elevated
from the ground and she
was laying on the ground.
And I couldn't see
if she was okay,
I couldn't tell if
she was dead or alive,
breathing or anything.
I couldn't even call out to her.
I just stared at her.
I just remember seeing her
laying there and thinking wow,
there's literally like
gunshots flying all over us.
Shots fired
at the fucking concert.
My daughter.
Where the fuck
is that coming from?
- I was on the west
side of the concert.
So I was closest to where
the gunman was shooting.
His exact location
I did not know.
And that's a very fearful thing,
because you don't know,
nobody knows where the
gunfire is coming from.
Did you see anybody get shot?
- Yes, a lot of people
got down on the ground.
And so it was hard
to tell who was shot
and who was just on
the ground for cover.
It's a feeling of helplessness.
No matter what you
do or where you run,
you don't know if
you're gonna get hit.
There was no point of safety.
- I had no idea where any
firing was coming from.
In fact, even when I got
behind the bleachers,
I didn't know if
there was a shooter
up front walking our way.
I didn't know what was going on.
- And we just kept going until
we made it over to the
front of the stage.
And then we hid in
between two speaker boxes
with gunshot just
firing the whole time.
- I had tied a tourniquet with
my flannel and my sister's
headband around my arm.
And so I had tried to stop the
bleeding as much as I could.
And while we were running,
that's when I started
to feel that my body
was losing control of
its self for a minute.
- We made it under the stage
and that's when we
had a brief minute.
She was able to call her
husband and call my husband
and say our goodbyes
to our family.
'cause we thought
that was goodbye.
- Very chaotic scene.
People running,
people screaming,
some huddled around people
that had already fallen.
Is there one moment
that you will never forget?
- Is when I was holding
my friend's hand
and I saw a body in
blood laying there
and I had to jump over.
And there was nothing
I could do to help,
because your first
mind was to just run.
And it's a lot of guilt,
because the guilt
come from we wish,
well I can't say for everybody,
but for me,
I wish I could turn back
around and help more people.
You think it was better
for people to run or hide?
- Definitely run.
But like I said,
we didn't know where
it was coming from.
But coming from the
outside looking in,
laying down just made it worse.
Because the way the lights
came on at the concert,
when he start shootin’
the lights came on.
Where now you can see the target
just laying down like that.
- Some people criticize that,
'cause if the lights are on,
then he can have a clearer
look on who to shoot at.
- Right, but I guess they
were trying to figure out
with the lights coming on maybe
where this person is shooting at
or they can see better.
I don't know.
- It's like a total war zone.
I'm like what is going on here?
Then I see a lot of
people running around
like not knowing where to go.
So I open the gate and
everybody came out.
- There was really no safe
place in the venue to go.
- My husband and I were
able to stay together.
We were running and we got over
probably two or three
fences and I heard someone
crying and screaming
my name hysterically.
And I looked to
my left and about
30 yards away was
my best friend.
She had been separated
from her husband,
and were all in a large group,
like I said about 15,
we'd all been separated
and my friend was
running by herself.
And the look of panic and
fear and terror on her face.
Get down.
Those are shots.
Those are shots.
Run. Those are shots.
Run. Don't look.
Run. Go.
Go. Go.
Everybody go.
Go. Run.
Keep your head down.
Go.
Keep your head down.
Go.
Run, keep your head down.
- I covered my wound and
grabbed Kimberly and we ran.
- At the moment that
we started running,
everybody started running.
Keep your head down.
Run. Go.
Keep your head down.
Go, you guys go.
Go. Go.
Run, run, run, run.
Are you fucking shitting me?
Let's go, get up.
Get up. Run.
Get up on your feet.
On your feet.
Let's go.
One of
you can certainly help me.
- Here.
- Thank you.
Get down.
- This lady started
following us and she,
she got hit in the face
by a bullet and she fell.
Her lifeless body just fell.
And that's when I
started talking now.
Basically me seeing her die,
it woke me up.
- So I rounded the corner and
it just kept getting closer.
And right at the base of the
bleachers there were two girls,
they were laying down,
I didn't know if they were hurt.
So I jumped over them,
which is maybe four seats in
front of my wife and friends,
'cause by then the noise was
so close I just knew it was,
so I jumped over
them and laid there.
And I remember thinking
just if I get hit,
make it be not a major organ.
And then I could
hear the bullets
hit the metallic bleachers.
Tink, tink, tink,
six or eight of them bounced up
and then the shooting stopped.
So I got off of the two girls,
I asked them if
they were all right.
And they said yeah,
what do we do?
What do we do?
- We ran into Losers tent,
everybody was in there
hiding behind the bar,
the gunfire still going off.
Then my boyfriend's a
sergeant with Metro,
we were there,
he wasn't working,
pulled out his badge and
he's telling everybody
in the tent when the
gunfire stopped that time
that we had to get out of there.
That bar wasn't gonna
stop the bullets
and if he shot into that tent,
we were all dead.
So I'm calling 9-1-1,
I can't get through,
I can't get through.
So I threw a post of
Facebook real quick
saying shots fired
from Mandalay Bay.
How were able to know that,
that it was coming
from Mandalay Bay?
- Because I saw that blinking
light on the tenth floor.
Well which was actually
the sixth floor,
because I didn't
count the bottom.
But the shots
came from the 32nd floor, so?
- I know, but it
was explained later
it was either a strobe
light or a reflection.
But it was just weird.
When that second
series came out,
I happened to be
looking at Mandalay Bay.
And so as it was firing it
was like.
And that like was going.
So I whole-heartedly believed
and that's why I said
I posted on Facebook.
I mean I have 1,200
friends and I'm like
somebody will see it,
tell the police where
it's coming from
'cause I couldn't
get through to 9-1-1.
- I never go to
the Mandalay Bay.
Never, never at that time.
At that time at ten
o'clock at night
and I just happened to drop off
from the airport across the way
and I came over and I thought
let's see what's goin on.
And I wanted to look at
something on Facebook
so I'm sitting there
looking on Facebook
and then we were moved
up just one or two cars.
So there I was still sitting
there at the Mandalay Bay
when I should've gone
back to the airport.
Something's going on.
And all the taxi drivers,
we're just doing whatever.
Just you know sitting there.
It wasn't very busy that night
so we were just minding
our own business,
waiting for us to keep
moving up in the taxi line.
I just thought it
was jackhammering.
And yeah, they do have
jackhammering at night
because it's warm.
For there being gunfire,
sure doesn't seem like
people are running.
Shit.
Seriously, I don't
know what's going on.
Never in the front of my mind,
the back of my mind, anywhere,
never did I think
that it was somebody
shooting and killing
people across
the street at a festival.
Where are the cops at?
I'm right here by the
porch at Mandalay Bay
and everything just
seems to be normal here.
But I finally did
pull out of line,
even though the other taxi
cabs were already there,
went underneath
where the valet is
and everybody's just
standing around.
Some dude sitting there
smoking a cigarette.
Do not go to Mandalay Bay.
Stay away from there.
- All right, I'm leaving.
This is ridiculous.
I don't know why
people aren't leaving.
This is insane.
Everybody is just
standing around.
It doesn't seem like
anybody's moving.
It seems like it's
coming from...
Shots fired.
They don't even know
the details yet.
I just talked to Metro
here at the airport.
They're still
getting the details.
- Just people standing around.
There's multiple injuries and...
You guys, there's shots fired.
That's all they're telling me.
They're not telling me
anything other than that.
They just said stay
away from there.
They're shutting the
whole place down.
All right this is crazy,
I don't know.
So the night goes on and I saw
that you picked up
a lot of people.
- I did.
Yeah, I picked up five
people and they all
crammed in the back of my cab.
Shooting at the festival
across from the Mandalay Bay.
Please try to stay away.
So now you got people running.
You got people climbing
over the fence there.
Peter said it
was across the street
at the festival by Mandalay Bay
where they have that
festival going on.
Yeah, you got people
climbing over the fence here
at the festival and
people running around.
Broken leg, broken leg.
Broken leg.
What happened?
Is there somebody out there?
Go. Go.
All right.
Oh god, there is
an after shooter.
Okay.
So many people are dead.
Are you kidding me?
No, we're not.
Go. Go. Go.
Close the door.
Close the door.
We're trying to.
Close the door.
I'm trying to.
Is everybody in?
Okay, all right.
I'm going, I'm going.
Oh shit.
Please drive as fast as you can.
I am.
Where are we going?
The first two people that got in
they said broken
leg, broken leg.
She's got a broken leg.
I said okay, get in.
Where you wanna go?
And they're all
just drive, drive.
And then I guess all these
other people started,
three other people got in,
and they're like go, go, go, go.
And they were just scared
out of their minds.
No, I'm not going
anywhere near the Luxor.
Can you take us far away?
Get the fuck out of Vegas.
Oh my god.
Just keep driving out of town.
Seriously,
thousands of people are dead.
Everybody's bloody.
You're kidding.
No, swear to God.
No joke, just drive.
I'm driving.
There are people in the street.
All right.
Get out of the way.
Good lord.
Okay.
Drive faster.
All right, I'm going.
- Please.
- Drive faster.
All right.
Yeah, this is a really
serious situation.
I've got a bunch of people
in my cab from that festival.
Everybody's shot, thousands.
Thousands are shot, all right.
Okay, I'm going.
We're going, we're
getting out of here.
- We live literally
probably five miles away
and actually I can see
the strip from my house
and I could see helicopters
flying in that
general direction.
You hear cop cars,
you hear ambulances.
It was just chaos, utter chaos.
And we received a phone call
from one of our employees
that shots were
fired on the strip.
We turn on the news,
nothing had happened yet,
nothing was said.
Went to social
media, on Facebook,
and we noticed some posts
of saying shots fired,
gunshots heard at Mandalay Bay.
Then proceeded to
check my wife's phone
who has closed
circuit cameras of
her galleries that she works at.
And pulled up the
Mandalay Bay Gallery
and we noticed people
running down the hallway,
people running into the
store hiding behind desks.
- That night I was working in
the casino in a store there.
Then one of my other
co-workers calls me up
to let me know that
there's a shooting
going on across the street.
So I'm on the phone with him now
and I think he's
playing a prank on me.
I'm like I know you're
playing with me, man.
He's like no, I
wouldn't joke with you
about something like this.
So I go to the computer
and I start to look it up.
I'm looking up the
Route 91 Festival
and what's goin go and
there's nothing on it
'cause it's happening right now.
So then I get a customer come in
and start asking me questions
and it takes my mind
off of it for a second.
Two more people come
in and they say hey,
there's an active
shooter going on,
we have to hide.
So my instinct was to rush the
people that are in the store,
there's four people and then me,
so five people total,
I rush us all out through
the back of the store
into the storage room that
is back behind the shops.
- I was standing on
Las Vegas Boulevard
and there's two officers
standing about 10 feet from me
and so I looked at them,
I said that's gunfire, right?
And so they started walking
towards Mandalay Bay
and I started walking
that way also.
And so I just grabbed my phone
and just kinda held it up.
Do you want
me to take care of this
and you go there?
I just need bandages, man.
Four by fours or gauze.
Shit.
Medical, they're not gonna come
while shots are
still being fired.
You're gonna be all right.
- What is going on right now?
- A lot of people were
coming out of this one exit,
so I was helping to direct
them to go the right direction.
Keep your head down,
run this way.
Keep your head down.
Run this way.
Keep your head down.
Run that way.
Keep your head down.
Run this way.
Keep your head down.
Run that way.
And there was some
people that were huddled
by the fence and
I was just trying
to tell them you'd
be safer to go.
You need to run that way,
you'd be a lot safer.
- Which way?
- Run that way.
Go while they're not shooting.
Go.
There was a pretty good
amount of time in between
when he was shooting and
when he wasn't shooting.
We're trying to
just get the people
to move when it wasn't,
when the fire wasn't happening.
The one gentleman
asked for help,
he said he'd been shot.
And so I walk him back
over to the safe area.
I need help.
What's wrong?
I've been shot in the arm.
You've been shot?
- I need 9-1-1.
I need an ambulance.
Okay, here.
Try and keep your head down,
go this way.
You have a tourniquet on?
- Yeah, they put one on me.
Stay low, go left.
- I need an ambulance.
There ain't nobody
here to help us.
Where are the ambulances?
You okay?
No. I
need an ambulance.
I've been shot.
Get down. Get down.
There's a guy shooting
from the Mandalay Bay.
He's been shot.
Do we have medical
setup somewhere yet?
- Take them east.
They're not gonna come this way,
take them east.
Come on this side of the wall,
come this way.
Stay right here.
He's been shot.
Just relax.
Relax, relax.
You okay, you okay?
Keep it above your heart.
Yeah, hold it up.
Hold it above your heart.
Is that fucking tight enough?
Tourniquet?
- He's got a tourniquet.
Someone let me see that shirt.
He's got one on it.
Put some pressure on it.
You got in the elbow?
No, my forearm.
My gut hurts though.
Did you get shot in the gut?
Does somebody have a flashlight?
I need to get this tight enough.
Ah it's tight.
No, it's not.
He's got one in his chest too.
You got in the
upper ribcage, chest.
I do got one?
Yes.
It probably went through your arm
and then went
through the ribcage.
- I'm medical, stop.
Turn that light off.
Put this on his chest.
The chest ain't gonna do it,
it's a chest wound.
It ain't gonna fuckin do nothin’,
but this is gonna stop
this bleeding on his arm.
Hey, look at me.
What's your name, bro?
- Doug.
- Doug, I'm sergeant Layton,
I'm Las Vegas Metro, Okay?
Relax, we've got you.
- I'm trying.
- I'm off duty cop,
just look at me.
- I don't care.
I want help.
I want an ambulance.
I'll go try and find medical.
I'll be right back.
And I went and got my truck
and came back to get him
and anyone else who
was in the area.
So I loaded up I think six
or seven people in the truck.
We got shot.
Can we put him in your car?
Yeah, let's bring him here.
I'll take him to the hospital.
Okay, let's
get him in the truck.
I'll take him to metro.
Bring the guy with the chest.
And one there.
Right here, come in here.
Come in on this side,
Right here.
Do we have any other
wounded people you can take?
- Not right now.
Okay, let's go.
The quiet of being in the truck,
it was just silent.
I think I even said out loud
now what am I gonna
do with these people?
As I saw the ambulances over on
the other side of the street
I just made a u-turn to
where all the medics were.
I got five wounded.
Ease me up.
One second, man.
We have one critical
with gunshot wound
to the chest here.
Someone help me, please.
Please, I'm bleeding
so much, man.
Sit down, sit down.
Sit down.
Were you afraid
while you were filming
that you may lose your life?
- I didn't really
think about it at all.
It was kinda just I said before,
it was almost like I felt
like I was in a movie.
It was almost like I was just
going through the motions.
It wasn't until days after
that it kinda sunk in.
- And we stayed low and
we went up the bleachers,
we went through the lounge,
we went down the stairs,
and we kind of ended
up on the field.
And I remember
looking at the field
and couldn't tell you why
I looked at the field,
in some sense I wish I
hadn't looked at the field,
but all you saw was
bodies and blood.
- I was a paramedic
for a long time,
so I was fighting
with trying to decide
if my role was to
go back and help
or to help my friends get out.
And one our best
friend's wife grabbed me
by the back of the shirt
and I turned around,
I didn't even notice
she was there,
and she said just please
get me out of here.
And at that point I
decided to get her out.
So we ended up going
out and unfortunately
when we got out of
the concert venue,
we were back on the street
and could see the
Mandalay Bay again.
So we waited for a
break in the shooting
and took off down the street.
And I remember
looking to my right,
there was a body laying
by the police cars
and that was like my
first visual reality.
Up until then I heard
people getting hurt
and knew people
were getting hurt,
but then I knew that
it was really serious.
- There was a lot of heroism,
there was a lot of humanity.
I saw it firsthand
when I was able
to get out onto the street.
There at that time there
were not many ambulances,
if any at all.
But there were people
in regular automobiles
and SVUs taking bodies, people,
into their cars and
taking them to hospitals.
- I've never seen
anything like it.
It was amazing.
It was amazing to see
people running into that
to help other people,
complete strangers
they didn't even know.
- Strangers just making
sure like when I fell,
a guy just came
from out of nowhere,
picked me up,
are you okay?
- A lot of people ran
under the stage, hiding.
So we had to get flashlights
and pull everybody out of there.
Seeing people crying.
I look and then I see
another people carrying
another barricade
with a lady facedown
and you could see the red
bullet hole on her back
and they were carrying
her out like that.
- For you to stick around
and think of others
rather than yourself,
that says a lot about you.
- Not for me to say.
I just did what I could and
there was times I would lay down
in bed thinking what
more could I have done?
Maybe going around looking
for more gates to open up,
I don't know.
- So you turned your Toyota
Tacoma into a rescue car.
- Inside of my vehicle was full,
outside of my vehicle was full.
- How many can you fit in there?
- Realistically, six in
the back of the truck,
five in the front of the truck,
but I'm telling you there
was a lot more than that.
Once we started loading we
had plenty of people in there.
I felt lost because it's
such a small vehicle,
I wished I had a bigger vehicle,
I wish we could take everybody.
You didn't wanna deny anybody.
- There was a bullet
hole in your car,
when was that
bullet fired at you
and do you recall being shot at?
- There's been a
couple different ideas
where that came from,
my initial thought
was that was ricochet
and it came off the pavement.
But it was interesting
because I had a gentleman
running to the vehicle
that I ran into
at the survival group
later at a meetup group
who identified himself as the
person who ran to my vehicle
and put a dent in my door
just trying to get in,
whatever else.
And he said the time
we were loading people
he heard the gunshot
and he recalls it
hitting my truck then and there.
I can't prove or deny that,
nor do I need to,
but he's very adamant
that it happened
while we were loading people
in the back of the truck.
- Is there one image
from that night
that will stick
with you forever?
- Absolutely.
A very vibrant, beautiful
young girl was delivered to me.
I remember looking at
her wanting to help her,
get her to safety,
and she was delivered
in a wheelbarrow.
And I'm looking at her just
like we're gonna be okay,
we're gonna get you there,
and then somebody comes around
the corner around my shoulder,
looks at a friend of
hers and said honey,
how long she not been breathing?
Hit me, hit me real hard.
'cause I had no clue.
That moment there
from everything that
happened afterwards was
just adrenaline going,
just reacting.
I was lost at that point.
- The medic tent was full.
I said to someone is
there something I can do?
I work in health care.
And she said well
maybe over there,
if you go over there there's
an ambulance over there.
Maybe you can help over there.
I just walked.
I was alone.
I don't know where
anybody else was.
So I walked over and
there were people
loading people onto the rails
that they make the fence with,
the metal rails.
They loaded this guy
that had been shot
up onto this monster truck.
And he was laying on this rail
and they started to take off.
So I kept walking,
I got over to the ambulance,
there was a young girl there.
She was hyperventilating,
she was kinda coming in
and out of consciousness.
Somebody said can you help her?
And I started doing
the sternal rub on her
trying to keep her conscious.
And she said my boyfriend,
he's been shot,
they took him away.
I left him,
he's all alone.
I've gotta find him.
I said okay, okay.
I didn't cry,
I was okay.
I said okay,
we gotta go somewhere
where we can
get you a ride to the hospital.
Hey you guys,
get down.
Go that way.
Get out of here.
There's gunshots
coming from over there.
Go that way.
Go that way.
Go that way,
go that way,
go that way.
They're shooting
right at us, guys.
Everybody stay down.
Stay down.
So when did you
find out that the shooter
was firing from the top
of the Mandalay Bay?
- When we went back to the room
and we had the news
on, early morning.
We were in our hotel room
'cause we were bunkered down
and we had all the lights off,
all the doors locked.
We didn't turn the
TV on until later on
'cause we were kind of afraid,
we didn't know
what was going on.
So you were just quiet?
- We were quiet.
Social media started going
crazy at the same aspect,
so when we were there
they were saying it was
an active shooter at the New
York New York at the time.
They were saying there
were active shooters
at the Tropicana, at Hooters.
They were saying there were
shooters all over the strip.
So we had no idea
what was going on.
This was all on social media.
Did you think you
were gonna die that night?
- I did, I did.
In Tropicana I definitely
started to feel pretty weak
and I was just
waiting for that light
supposedly they
say was gonna come.
- We got to the
backside of Tropicana
and we went up the stairs and
the turmoil didn't stop there.
All of a sudden you
see a group of people
running out going there's
a shooter inside Tropicana,
run, run, run.
And I'm just like at that
point I looked at my husband,
I was like you have
got to be kidding me.
And so we turned around
with everybody else
and came back down the stairs.
And I remember seeing one of
the security guards
like on the bottom
and he was holding the door open
for people to run into
the basement area.
And I remember
just looking at him
and I was like is there a
shooter inside the hotel?
And he was like what?
And I was like is there a
shooter inside the hotel?
They're all running out saying
there's a shooter
inside the hotel.
And he was like no,
there's no shooter
inside the hotel.
And I was like okay.
I looked at my husband and I'm
like we're going to our room.
- Made it to the first floor,
got in the room and I told
everybody leave the lights off.
We ended up with maybe six kids,
I call them kids,
25, 20, 25 year olds that were
scared to death hiding up there,
so we brought them in our room
and just sat in the
dark below the windows
for a couple of hours before
we were brave enough
to turn the TV on.
These are complete strangers?
- The kids were
complete strangers.
We were sharing phone chargers,
we had like two phone
chargers in the bathroom.
So we were rotating them,
because their parents were
trying to get ahold of them.
Did you take
anyone else anywhere?
- No, because well I was
freaked out as it is,
but they were
saying on the radio,
on my radio,
okay, well they've
closed off the strip,
they closed off everything,
you can't get near the strip.
I just went back to my base,
my taxi base.
And it was so weird, Charlie.
I've never shook like this.
I was shaking,
I was in shock I guess.
It was the most surreal
18 minutes of my life.
It really was.
It's like it wasn't happening.
It was like I was
in a dream world.
Tell us how you
found out about the story.
- I think I found out like a
lot of people did that night.
So my producer
gives me the call,
I immediately hop out of bed,
put on whatever
shirt I could find.
- My editor had actually
texted a group of our reporters
hey, there's word that there's
an active shooter
at Mandalay Bay.
I just kind of thought okay,
well let's figure out
if this is real or not.
The second I realized that
this was probably real,
there was like a switch
that went on inside of me.
Going to something where you
really don't know
what's going on,
grounded myself and I
just went to the hospital.
It was around 10:30, 11:00,
by the time that we
got these reports.
Just got in my car
and started driving.
The highways were
backed up already.
Police were starting
to shutdown exits.
- So the strip's shutdown,
freeway's shutdown,
the only cars we seem
to see on the road,
on the freeway,
were police cars.
And it's just empty.
You don't see emptiness
on the strip on any day,
let alone a weekend,
let alone a weekend night.
- The editor texted me and said
to go to Sunrise Medical Center
where some of the victims
had been transported.
So I got in my car,
drove there.
And that was a very
heavy experience.
There was discarded clothing
in the front of the
shopping center,
there was a discarded bloody
plaid shirt by the parking lot.
That image has stuck with me.
- And I went to, again,
University Medical
Center which is the only
level one trauma
center in Nevada.
And because I knew that,
I figured if this was serious,
that most of the critical
victims would be taken there.
Stayed out of the way,
I was around the corner
from the trauma entrance.
There was a trauma
nurse that came out,
I was kinda chatting
with her for a little bit
and her face was white and
she just kept saying it's bad,
it's bad, it's bad.
I've worked here for 10 years,
I've never seen anything
like this, it's bad.
- I think some of us might find
some form of peace
with just answers.
It's not gonna
change what happened,
but I don't understand it.
Why haven't videos
been released?
If MGM did everything
they were supposed to do,
why haven't they put it
all out on the table?
- Periodically we need to know
that they're working on it.
I can't just have
you tell me that
we're investigating
it and that's it.
I need to know well what
are you investigating
and what were your findings?
I feel like we're being letdown
and with that comes the
we're being forgotten.
- I do find myself at
night looking at videos
trying to find different
perspectives of what went on.
To see some of the
other questions
that people have out there
that are not answered.
There's a lot of things that
they're changing as it goes on
and it seems like they're trying
to make the scenario
work this way,
because this is how
we need to spin it.
I'm not pushing the blame
anywhere to anything,
all I wanna know is
why this happened.
Why this guy took 58
people's lives for no reason,
had so much arsenal
up in a hotel room
that nobody knew about.
How does he drill
holes in walls,
setup surveillance for three
days and nobody notice?
Do you think
about this every single day?
- Every single hour of the day.
It's hard.
I try to think of
the happy moments,
but it won't go away.
And I would just like answers.
I would like to know
what really happened.
- The ER department has
worked through the night
to identify all the
victims of Sunday evening's
mass shooting at the
Route 91 Harvest Festival.
We have identified
all but three victims.
We still have an active
scene at the grounds
near Mandalay Bay
so we ask anyone
to stay away from that
area until further notice.
The FBI is working diligently
to clear that scene.
So he gets shot
and he calls it in right away
and he gives the room number.
And there was police
inside the Mandalay Bay
when it was called
in by Jesus Campos,
right when the rampage began.
So armed security
is there as well.
I'll give them three minutes
to get to the 32nd floor,
especially when you hear
that shots were fired.
- Right.
So then that shooting
could've been interrupted
right in the beginning stages.
Police took at least 10 minutes
to get to the killer's room.
Do you have a problem with that?
- You know that 10 minutes
that they said he shot,
seemed like an hour.
I hope someone starts
bringing it up again
and talking about what
really went on in Vegas,
what really happened.
'cause like you said,
the victims that died that day,
they deserve it.
They deserve to know why
their loved ones were lost.
- I just felt like they
were being overly cautious.
And I know that's
easy for me to say
because I didn't have to
breach the room where he was.
I just think that they could
have done things faster.
Metro dropped the ball and I
feel bad saying that because...
How so?
- I think more people
could have been saved.
And now when I say
dropping ball now,
I think they should
keep us more informed.
I think that's why there's
so many conspiracy theories.
- Oh it's very troubling that
it took so long for cops,
for police officers
to enter the room.
Clearly the Mandalay Bay resorts
and MGM resorts
were not prepared.
They didn't do what
they needed to do
to protect the innocent people.
- For the amount of
time that it took
for him to take those lives,
something should've been done.
Somehow he could
have been stopped.
There should've been
more cops up there.
They knew where the room was,
it took them awhile.
It took them awhile to get the
okay to go up to the floor.
Why do you think
they would need the okay
when here is a guy that
says shots were fired?
- That I don't know.
That I don't know.
- There's a lot of
information I do know,
but it's an ongoing
investigation.
And when I say I do not know,
I may know.
But as you can imagine in
a criminal investigation,
we wanna ensure the continued
safety of our community
and that all those
questions are answered.
And I assure you this
investigation is not ended.
- What happened inside
that hotel suite?
That's what we want to know.
What happened and
how did it happen?
How did they let this happen?
- And they know.
- They do know.
And they're not telling us.
- My name is Doug Poppa.
I'm a former US Army
military policeman,
former police officer,
deputy sheriff
criminal investigator,
and spent 20 years in the hotel
casino industry in Las Vegas
as director of security
at two properties.
Prior to that I was
an investigator for
the MGM Grand hotel.
MGM Resorts International
and the Las Vegas
Metro Police Department
Sheriff Lombardo
to this date have not
released one shred of evidence
to back up anything
that they have said
on anything that they've
comment to the press.
What I did initial in my
investigation when I did this,
I timed from the first time
they knew about shots fired
and the first call that came in
came from a police officer
inside the concert venue.
He calls in we have shots fired.
I timed it from that
point until the time
the officers arrived
on the 32nd floor
and it was about
18 minutes later.
Now when they arrive
on the 32nd floor,
the first comment
those officers say
is we have a security
officer who's been shot,
the shots are definitely
coming from room 135
and the officer,
the security officer,
is standing by the elevator.
So my thing has
always been this,
if metro police officers and
Mandalay Bay security officers
are in the conversation
and that all of a sudden
across the security radio
they hear Jesus Campos
calling in that he's
shot from the 32nd floor,
why didn't the police
dispatcher know
right then where the
shots were coming from?
Because then people
could have immediately
responded up to that floor,
but that did not happen.
Because we never hear
that on the police radio.
For 15 minutes everybody's
talking on the radio
where are the shots coming from?
Campos said the room number.
- Yes.
So then why
should there be any confusion?
- That's exactly my point.
If he said over the
radio and I didn't hear,
I heard the recording they
released later on, okay.
MGM released recording.
He said 3-2-1-3-5.
- That's what he said.
Now Sheriff Joe Lombardo at
the first press conference
in the early morning
hours of October second
told the press that once
we found out the shooter
was coming from the 32nd floor,
the officers went up there
and they engaged the suspect.
He left out a very
important factor.
Fact was is they didn't
go into that room,
that room was not
breached until an hour
and five minutes after
the last shot was fired.
According to the police,
the last shots were
fired at 10:15.
One lone SWAT officer,
I'll get into that
a little bit later,
but the lone swat officer
with three patrol officers
breached that door at 11:20.
So that's one hour
and five minutes
after the last shots were fired.
A full SWAT team never
arrived in that stairwell.
When that door was
breached at 11:20,
there was one lone SWAT officer.
His name was Levi Hancock.
His team members never
arrived to back him up.
He had to use an ad
hoc team of officers,
two K-9 officers,
with Sergeant
Bitsko K-9 officer,
Dave Newton was a K-9 officer,
and Matthew Donaldson
who was in uniform.
He used those three
officers as his team,
because his SWAT team
members never showed up
to back up their lone
SWAT team officer.
That question to me
is very important.
Where were they?
- I don't think the blame lies
on the police for
getting there slowly.
If there is blame,
and this will come
out eventually,
is the way the call was made.
Should it have gone to his boss?
Which is common
practice at casinos,
some say because it
prevents the public
from knowing about crime
that takes place in casinos.
Or is that a good thing?
Because some say if
he calls his boss,
his boss can then
call the police
which will make it easier
for them to find the spot
where the crime is taking place.
Sheriff Lombardo has
been very appreciative
publicly of MGM for
all the help they've
been able to give through
this investigation.
MGM has financed
and will probably
continue to finance
the sheriff's campaign.
Is that a conflict of interest?
I don't know.
Do you think there's some
kind of coverup going on here?
That's what a lot
of people are saying
that I've interviewed.
- I'm really uncomfortable
with the lack of information.
The shooter they're saying
the news we have now
is he has no Facebook presence,
he was a basic kind of a ghost.
The security guard initially
no Facebook presence,
no online presence.
I just don't know how an
individual could do that
accidentally in
this day and age.
- And Campos disappeared
right after the shooting
and then showed up on Ellen
with a scripted
response and story.
And that's not just
my interpretation
of Campos on Ellen,
that's coming from all of my
clients that I've spoken to.
And some who didn't
wanna watch it,
did anyways and couldn't believe
that that was the story that
was being provided to them.
- It's just not an event that
you make a comedic event.
And she made it comedic in every
which way she could possible.
Then she went and rewarded
them with football tickets.
It was a
horrendous softball interview,
let's face it.
- It pissed all of us off.
It pissed me off.
I couldn't even watch
the whole interview.
I read more about it
and when I found out
ate the end he got season
passes to go watch the Raiders,
I was like this is a joke.
This is an absolute joke.
- It was a publicity stunt to
try to get their good PR back.
Right, they're trying to get
themselves to look good again.
Let’s present him as a hero.
Let’s tell Ellen what to ask,
let’s tell him what to say to
make him look like a hero.
And it was offensive to the
22,000 people that were there.
To this day he's
gone underground.
No one else has been able
to contact him, find him.
MGM had him sequestered in
a property that they own.
One of our investigators
went to his house
and there is a security guard,
plain clothes,
parked outside of
his house in a car,
just an unmarked car,
that is most likely
employed by MGM
who hopped out quickly and
cut her off at the path
and said whoa, whoa, whoa,
what do you need?
Can I help you?
No, you can't
knock on that door.
No, you can't go in.
No, he's not here.
So they're holding him.
So the whole thing is a sham.
If you saw Campos
what would you ask him?
- Why are you in hiding?
What are you hiding?
- We're a community here for you
if you're part of
our survivor group,
but hiding makes me
feel like you're not.
- MGM is concerned
about their liability.
They should be.
- The liability,
the magnitude of liability
on this case for MGM
is potentially chapter
11 bankruptcy for MGM.
That's how much
liability exists.
So they're going to be hunkered
down protecting themselves
and that's the way that it
is because it is a major
need that the people who
where involved, our clients,
that they know what happened.
Psychologically and to
heal from the trauma.
So MGM's by protecting
their money,
they're hurting the
people that were
the victims of this
horrendous crime.
- I said that incompetence
led to this massacre
and the death of 58 people
and the wounding and injuring.
And people said why
do you say that?
And I said it's very simple.
Number one, the Las Vegas
metropolitan police department,
they coordinate all
these festivals,
the concerts like this.
The Route 91 music
festival was almost
on the corner of Tropicana
and Las Vegas Boulevard,
right behind the
Tropicana hotel,
Mandalay Bay's over there,
Luxor over there,
Excalibur over there,
New York New York across
the street over there,
MGM Grand across the street on
Tropicana on the other side.
Now, nobody from
the command staff
of the Las Vegas metro
police department
ever thought that
that outside venue
opened up from the top
could be vulnerable
to an elevated sniper attack?
Because that's happened 20,
30, 40 years in this country,
elevated sniper attack
in this country.
Nobody thought about that.
And the reason why I say that is
because had they had counter
snipers available standing by,
they could have
responded very quickly
and at least countered his fire,
the gunman's fire from
coming out the window.
So suppress it.
That didn't happen.
Were the exit signs
clearly marked at the venue?
- No.
And I had made reference
to that two years ago
and then this year I had
made the same statement.
Specifically about Route 91?
- Specifically about Route 91.
That I felt like we were
being herded in like cattle.
In and out.
There was only one way in and
one way out that we knew of.
- And I also blame the hotels.
I spent 20 years in the
hotel casino industry,
not only as an investigator
but as director
and security surveillance
at two different properties.
Since 9/11, every hotel
casino in Las Vegas
was advised by the US
Department of Homeland Security
that the infrastructure
is vulnerable
to an active shooter incident
or a Mumbai-type
terrorist attack.
And people say what
does that have to do
with the gunman at
the Mandalay Bay?
Very simple,
he rolled in 23 weapons,
loaded magazines,
a thousand rounds ammunition,
hundreds of magazines.
Now, had there been
an explosive K-9
detection team there as
stuff was rolling in,
that K-9, the dog,
90% with their
nose would have hit
on the explosive
residue in those bags.
The magazines,
if he touched ammunition,
the guns were fire,
they weren't cleaned.
The dog would have hit on it.
- How did he get all
of that stuff up there?
How do they have no
videotape of him?
How did they not hear
him drilling a hole
as a person next
to him in a room?
- The cameras in Las Vegas
can zoom in so close.
Well today with
modern technology, yeah.
- With the technology I mean,
if I'm a bartender
and my bank is short,
security can pull
up right up under me
and watch me count every dollar.
Be like oh she counted 20
dollars short or something.
So I just don't
understand with all these,
I know everybody just not
looking at the blackjack table.
You can catch
people counting cards,
we couldn't catch all this?
- Why do you think
we have virtually no
video of the killer?
- Well we've requested
surveillance footage
of the gunman in the casino.
Obviously we know he walked
in the casino at some point,
had bags helped up to
his room at some point.
He did switch rooms
at some point.
And he I'm guessing
was gambling,
because we know he was a pretty
consistent video poker player.
So we know that there's probably
footage that exists
of him around
the casino and
we've requested it.
But again, that's just
one of the many things
that we haven't had access to.
- Our office sent out the
subpoenas to MGM right away
and we were met with
legal maneuvering
and denials and refusals.
- The statement in
response has always been
we will out of respect
for the victims
we will address this through
the appropriate legal channels.
But really just hunkering down,
not providing any information,
fighting us at every turn.
And that has been
a big frustration
not just for the lawyers,
for myself and for Catherine,
but also for our clients.
Somebody most likely
helped him move
10 large suitcases full
of ammunition and guns.
Whether or not the employee knew
that that's what he was doing,
the general elevator where
you're going up and down,
you're gonna be seen by people.
There's gonna be people
that are watching you.
And if you're a high
roller and you're just
going up and down
the freight elevator,
that's considered
okay by the employees.
And that is very
concerning for us
that that was allowed.
From what we know it does
not look good for MGM.
From my understanding
and from what I know
is that the killer had
a do not disturb sign
on his door for three days.
And that went
unquestioned by security.
- Now the big debate is what
level of privacy should we
expect when we go to a casino
on the Las Vegas strip?
What is the difference
between safety and security?
I don't know what
their policy is,
because MGM won't say
what the policy is
when it comes to
stuff like that.
Some casinos are already
changing their policies
to say we have a 12 hour policy.
If you have a do no
disturb on your door,
we're gonna check that
out after 12 hours.
Because no one should
have a placard on
for that long without
it being checked.
- MGM Resorts is running
a publicity campaign
to claim that somehow they
couldn't foresee this happening.
But I'm not buying that,
because I believe it
was totally foreseeable
based on the recent terror
events not only in the US,
but around the world.
All they had to do
was tell the people
staying at the hotel
in the view rooms
if they went through an
airport style metal detector,
the gunman never
would have been able
to bring up all his weaponry,
all his ammunition.
He would have been stopped.
It never would have happened.
So mothers and fathers
would still be alive,
husbands and wives
would be alive,
boyfriends, girlfriends
would be alive,
children would have their
mothers and fathers.
What's your
reaction to people saying
well you can't go around
checking everyone's luggage,
it's impossible?
- You can check luggage
very, very quickly,
very, very efficiently.
Especially if
you're only checking
people who are just moving
it up into the upper floors.
And I understand
people they understand
their privacy's at risk and
that does have to be weighed.
And that's something
the legal process
is also going to address.
Privacy concerns are a
matter of public policy
and they are addressed
on the judicial level.
So I would tell people
let's see what MGM knew
and what could have
been done to prevent it
before we start
talking about well,
we're gonna have to
just check every bag
or we're gonna have to
have metal detectors
and our privacy's all gone.
Well I think we shouldn't jump
to those types of conclusions.
I think we should take
a look at the evidence,
see what could have
been done to prevent it.
But of course,
if that's what has to be done,
then people have to
understand when they go
and stay in a large
hotel where everybody's
safety is at stake,
they're going to have to
submit just like on an airplane
or a at large theme park,
to some level of security.
Just to make sure someone can't
bring in an arsenal of weapons.
- Vegas was honestly
Vegas Strong.
Everybody came together.
And it should be like
that all the time.
It shouldn't have to
take something like this
to get everybody together.
The next day the blood drives,
it was incredible.
Everybody showed up.
There was like a
seven hour wait,
five hour wait,
they still stayed there.
Everybody actually cared
about the humanity,
about the fellow man.
- We are a lot
stronger after this.
Those people will never
be forgotten in this town.
This town will survive,
but this horrible tragedy
will never be forgotten.
This is what puts
food on our table.
This is what makes
this city run.
Without tourism this
city isn't here.
This is just desert.
And for that to happen,
it was just a slap
in the locals' faces
and I felt disgusted
that someone
would come here and do that.
- It has changed
a lot internally.
We are very resilient
her in Vegas,
a strong community,
we have #vegasstrong that
we're promoting worldwide.
All the hotels and businesses
are showing their support
for people that were
injured in the event.
If you had all 58
fallen victims in one room,
what would you tell them?
- First of all
probably that I'm sorry
that a lot of their lives
were ended so quickly,
so soon.
But I guess that in honor
of them and because of them,
they have sparked this
revolution across the world.
It isn't even just here,
it's everywhere
from this tragedy.
That people are doing good
things in their memory.
And I think that's
a wonderful thing.
I think that's the best thing
that anybody can
do for somebody.
I wouldn't want
somebody mourning me.
I would want somebody going out
and doing good deeds
in memory of me.
- You're so afraid
to go to sleep
'cause you don't wanna
have those nightmares.
Do you think
about this every day?
- Every day.
- Every day.
- We live, we breath it.
And you almost want not to.
And we're not the same
women we were before,
we're two different people.
We left and came home not whole.
And we're finding
our new normal.
- There hasn't been
a day that's gone by
that I don't think about it.
I'm grateful,
if grateful's even
a big enough word,
to be out alive.
I had cuts and
scrapes and bruises,
but grateful to be alive.
To be able to go home and
hug my kids and my family.
We live near a shooting range,
an outdoor shooting range.
I don't walk my kids
to school anymore.
I don't go to the
school and pick them up.
We're close,
they can walk home,
they're old enough now.
But we live by an
outdoor shooting range
and the sound of automatic
gunfire every day comes in.
I'll hear it and it
puts me right back
in that moment when I
look at my husband and say
what drunk idiot set off a brick
of firecrackers in
an crowd of people?
And the whole thing replays.
- At first the first
couple of weeks,
it was depression.
And I just didn't even
wanna get out of bed.
It's almost like you're going
for a funeral for 58 people
when you go visit
the Mandalay Bay.
It was very, very sad.
And I had to leave work
after a couple of weeks,
panic attacks.
And then one day I just said
I can't keep living like this.
It humbled me.
And I'm happy to be
alive, I made it.
So it changed me to just
appreciate good people
and to help people.
- A friend of mine
that I worked with
was passing out the
bands and giving us
our polo shirts to wear,
21 years old, Erick Silva,
he didn't make it.
And I will never take this off.
Never.
So that thing's been
on your wrist since
October first?
- Yeah, and it will
never come off.
- Who knows what
could've happened
if I moved differently
one second prior to that.
- And there's 58
people that passed away
and didn't get to live that
second chapter of their life
and I feel like I need
to live it for them.
- Will you ever go back
this concert, Route 91?
- Absolutely.
You don't go back, he wins.
Whoever the shooter was or were,
they win if you don't go back.
- How do you think the
community changed in Vegas?
You're someone who's lived
there for a long time.
- Yeah, I don't think
it's changed a lot.
I think it just showed how tight
of a community it is.
It's a big city,
but it's a small town feeling.
It showed how good the people
are that live in the city.
It was amazing to see
after what all happened
you would go to
the grocery store,
we went to pick some stuff
up for the fire department
and there's four,
five different people
filling carts full to take it
all over the city
wherever they needed it.
And you're going
to the blood bank
and you're getting turned down,
because the line's
around the corner.
So it just showed the
support that everyone
had in the city
for what happened.
We're 65 games in,
whatever we are now,
there's still a big part of us
that are playing for the city.
You still get told
that the games
are just a time
for people to take
their mind of what happened.
Whatever we can do to
help those people heal
we're willing to do it.
And when you're winning games
it makes it that much better.
- Anything else Deryk Engelland
actually would like to add
to tell all the Las Vegas fans
and just anything you'd
like to add about anything?
- We're still Vegas Strong.
Do you get a lot of customers
asking you about the incident?
- Yeah, I do.
And before I wanted
to tell everybody,
but now I only talk about
it if they bring it up.
If they say how's Vegas doing?
And I say well
you know it's okay
and did you see
any of the videos?
No, and then I don't
really say anything.
But if they say
so were you there
the night of the shooting?
I say well,
you asked me so
I'm gonna tell ya.
And sometimes I even
show them the video.
- It tells you that
tomorrow's not a given.
And I never thought I'd
say that here in America,
that I'd be part of
something like this.
You take your day that
you have, enjoy it.
Because you never know.
♪ And guide her
♪ Through the night with
the light from above ♪
♪ From the mountains
♪ To the prairies
♪ To the ocean white with foam
Sing it now, sing it now!
- It was an irony.
You know that he was
up there in that room,
looking through that
scope, watching us do that.
- We actually were
having so much fun
before everything happened,
and then horror,
terror, blood, screams.
Run!
- It is a three-day festival.
Top country artists
that come in and play,
it runs from like four
to eleven, or midnight.
- Real cross-section
of people there,
young, old, seemed all races.
- This is the first
time I had gone.
The venue was wonderful.
And just to be with my friends.
- And it was kids and
children and you know,
everybody was there,
it's a family event.
- It was a night without
our kids and you know,
it was kinda like our
first date again, so.
- Well, I was working.
It was a great day, great music.
I mean, nobody arguing,
everybody's having a good time.
- You had worked all
weekend this concert?
- No, that's the funny thing.
That was my night for that
Sunday and the thing is
they weren't gonna use me,
because I had the
wrong-colored tennis shoes.
So they were like
well just hold off
and we'll see if we can use you.
I'm like all right,
so I just waited.
So they almost sent you home?
- One of the ladies,
she was like,
I can use some big guys.
And she was like all
right, go with her.
I'm like all right and
everybody goes like well,
you must've been
there for a reason.
I'm like, I don't know.
- It was our third
day at the concert,
so we went to the back.
Probably the first
time that we sat
in the back to
watch the concert.
Usually we were up in the front,
dancing, having a good time.
It was Sunday night,
we were flying out the next day,
Jason Aldean was the last act.
- Me and my husband had just
gotten back from the stage.
We went up to the stage
and we'd gotten a drink
at one of the bars
that were up there.
- It was getting late,
it was about ten o'clock.
And at one point I even
thought about leaving,
'cause I was tired,
it was the third day.
But it was a beautiful night
and Jason Aldean came out
and things were rockin.
- I was in the VIP area
where we were working at.
When the entertainer,
Jason, came on,
before the shooting
I remember he asking
where's all the veterans at?
Where's all my
soldiers in the crowd?
Where's the police department?
We need to quit being
disrespectful to the flag
and start saluting the flag.
That's what he said.
And when he said we're gonna
sing this song for you,
everybody raise your beer
up and raise your lights up,
that's why it was really,
really dark at that time,
because it was like a
dedication kind of song.
- I was over by
concessions so I was
about 100 yards
from my main group,
the other nine or 10
people that were with me.
And I had just went
over there for a beer
and was kinda standing
watching things from the side.
And Jason Aldean I think started
his second or third song.
- And were heard
a bunch of noise
and it sounded like fireworks.
I said wow that's
weird that fireworks
would be going off as he's
actually singing a song.
- But I knew right away
that they were gunshots
and I told him
those are gunshots.
- She knew right away
that they were gunshots
and I was what you call
a deer in the headlights.
I was lost and I
didn't believe it.
I was like no,
that's not gunshots.
- I was sitting next
to my friend, Jerry,
he said those aren't fireworks,
those are gun rounds.
And he said they're
coming from over there
and he pointed over
towards the strip.
And I thought oh,
it's probably gang-related,
the police are gonna
take care of it.
- I looked at my husband
and I grabbed his hand
and I asked him what
drunk idiot would set off
a brick of firecrackers
in a crowd of people?
And my husband,
I'll never forget
the look on his face,
because it was like
he knew it wasn't
firecrackers or fireworks.
- We were all just
kinda looking around
like who the heck is
doing fireworks right now?
And we're like okay,
where are the fireworks?
'cause you expect to
see something in the
air by that point.
And we're looking up like okay,
what the heck is that?
- My thoughts were it was just
a confrontation out on
Tropicana Boulevard.
And then the concert resumed.
- Jason Aldean paused for
a second and the music,
you could tell they
missed their chords,
but then he started back up
and people seemed to be fine.
So I thought maybe a
speaker was acting weird.
- We heard like six shots first,
different caliber.
And then we're
looking up, nothing,
then all of a sudden
another caliber
came out all with a ping sound.
I'm like no, that's
not fireworks,
that's a gun.
- We knew something
was going on,
but we were just not
reacting quite yet.
Then once Jason
Aldean ran off stage,
we kinda really knew
something was really serious.
- I looked back at my
friend and our other friend
had already said
that that's gunshots.
It was like her face was just
it was just her
eyes were teared up
and I knew that it was bad.
- And then I could see the
crowds starting to move.
They were moving towards me,
because the crowd was
between me and Mandalay.
So at that point I
knew it was gunfire.
- What I saw was
basically the front of
the stage getting
shot up pretty good.
The screens where
they showed the video
of the concert going on
so people in the back
can see what actually
the artist is doing,
was getting shot up on
the right-hand side.
- I was staring at,
I guess he was on duty officer,
but he was in the vest,
I saw him draw his gun,
duck down,
and start running straight
towards Mandalay Bay.
And I was like what
the heck is going on?
It felt like it was slow motion.
I looked over to the right
at the rest of the lounge
and it was one of the guys,
he was wearing like
the village t-shirts
like he was one
of the volunteers,
it's almost like
he made eye contact
with all of us at the same time
and he was like those
are gunshots, get down.
Get down, everybody get down.
And that's like
when it all hit us.
- After three, four
minutes went by,
that's when it hit me.
No, this could be
a terrorist attack.
Like I say,
we didn't know where
it's coming from.
But it sounded very close.
And I was calling my daughter
and leaving them a video
in case something happen.
We don't know what's going on,
but somebody is shooting at
this event that I'm working at.
And we don't know who
or is it a terrorist
attack or what?
But just in case I
don't make it out,
I just want you to
know I love you.
- We thought there
were multiple shooters
the way that it sounded,
the difference from the first
volley to the second volley.
I can't explain it,
but it sounded differently
than the firecracker round,
first round that went off.
And we started to
run not knowing
where we were gonna exit,
because the only exit we knew of
was the main entrance and exit.
- Were more people
running or hiding?
- None of us expected it to
be coming from 32 stories up,
we thought at ground level.
So I think that
most people got down
to try to avoid the
gunfire that way.
- I witnessed my best
friend, Natalie Grumet,
being shot in the face.
- I saw Natalie get shot and
Natalie's blood all over me.
And then hearing my sister
scream I'm shot, I'm shot.
She was bleeding
all over the place.
She kept saying my side.
I'm shot in my side and I
was like no, you're not,
'cause there was no blood,
the bullet had lodged.
So there was no blood,
it was stuck.
Thank god the bullet didn't
go any further or come out
'cause that could have been
a very worse-case scenario.
You shielded your
body to protect your wife.
- It was just natural instinct
I think when you love and you
care for somebody so much.
- We were on the floor and
he put his body on top of me.
I just told him I don't
care if it's not gunshots,
I just wanna leave now.
I don't wanna be here anymore.
And he said okay.
And he got up and the moment
he got up is when he got shot.
- I got struck in
my back left armpit
and it shot out the
front of my chest.
I got really mad and
angry and I cursed
'cause I knew somebody shot me.
And I was just screaming
at whoever it was,
I didn't know who it was,
but I just knew I was shot.
- I was in shock.
I couldn't move anymore.
He was trying to get me to like
talk to him and I couldn't.
He just grabbed my hand and
he just told me I got shot,
I need you to run and
don't stop running.
And I couldn't move.
I didn't even respond to him.
An he's like are
you listening to me?
I need you to run.
- It was a nightmare.
We were at a war and
it just felt like
it's people after us right now.
Hey there's
some guy right up there,
you see him?
I don't know.
- Our group said to get down,
but the seats were so small.
They were like little
tiny stadium seating,
they were very small,
so getting down meant just,
I mean what are you gonna do?
You're still exposed.
I mean I had 11 friends
and I was alone,
I didn't know where anybody was.
I sent out a text to my family.
We have a group family text,
there's like 25 of us on it,
and I just said shots
fired, I loved you.
I'm sorry.
The guns were just, the noise,
it sounded like a machine gun.
And it just wouldn't stop.
And it started to
hit the bleachers
and ricochet off and I just
laid down on the ground
and just like I knew
it was gonna hit me.
For some reason I just felt
like it was gonna hit my back.
And I didn't think it was fair
'cause I just had a grandchild.
- Everything was going
through our heads,
but at the same time
we're having that moment
where it's just like,
we're gonna die.
We're gonna die tonight.
Luckily, there was a good amount
of space in between
the bleachers.
But we were practically
laying on top of each other,
like everybody who
was in that row.
I'm looking down
and I see a lady
who had been shot on her
abdomen on the left side
and she was laying
like flat on her back.
She was alone and I
couldn't reach her.
We were six to
eight feet elevated
from the ground and she
was laying on the ground.
And I couldn't see
if she was okay,
I couldn't tell if
she was dead or alive,
breathing or anything.
I couldn't even call out to her.
I just stared at her.
I just remember seeing her
laying there and thinking wow,
there's literally like
gunshots flying all over us.
Shots fired
at the fucking concert.
My daughter.
Where the fuck
is that coming from?
- I was on the west
side of the concert.
So I was closest to where
the gunman was shooting.
His exact location
I did not know.
And that's a very fearful thing,
because you don't know,
nobody knows where the
gunfire is coming from.
Did you see anybody get shot?
- Yes, a lot of people
got down on the ground.
And so it was hard
to tell who was shot
and who was just on
the ground for cover.
It's a feeling of helplessness.
No matter what you
do or where you run,
you don't know if
you're gonna get hit.
There was no point of safety.
- I had no idea where any
firing was coming from.
In fact, even when I got
behind the bleachers,
I didn't know if
there was a shooter
up front walking our way.
I didn't know what was going on.
- And we just kept going until
we made it over to the
front of the stage.
And then we hid in
between two speaker boxes
with gunshot just
firing the whole time.
- I had tied a tourniquet with
my flannel and my sister's
headband around my arm.
And so I had tried to stop the
bleeding as much as I could.
And while we were running,
that's when I started
to feel that my body
was losing control of
its self for a minute.
- We made it under the stage
and that's when we
had a brief minute.
She was able to call her
husband and call my husband
and say our goodbyes
to our family.
'cause we thought
that was goodbye.
- Very chaotic scene.
People running,
people screaming,
some huddled around people
that had already fallen.
Is there one moment
that you will never forget?
- Is when I was holding
my friend's hand
and I saw a body in
blood laying there
and I had to jump over.
And there was nothing
I could do to help,
because your first
mind was to just run.
And it's a lot of guilt,
because the guilt
come from we wish,
well I can't say for everybody,
but for me,
I wish I could turn back
around and help more people.
You think it was better
for people to run or hide?
- Definitely run.
But like I said,
we didn't know where
it was coming from.
But coming from the
outside looking in,
laying down just made it worse.
Because the way the lights
came on at the concert,
when he start shootin’
the lights came on.
Where now you can see the target
just laying down like that.
- Some people criticize that,
'cause if the lights are on,
then he can have a clearer
look on who to shoot at.
- Right, but I guess they
were trying to figure out
with the lights coming on maybe
where this person is shooting at
or they can see better.
I don't know.
- It's like a total war zone.
I'm like what is going on here?
Then I see a lot of
people running around
like not knowing where to go.
So I open the gate and
everybody came out.
- There was really no safe
place in the venue to go.
- My husband and I were
able to stay together.
We were running and we got over
probably two or three
fences and I heard someone
crying and screaming
my name hysterically.
And I looked to
my left and about
30 yards away was
my best friend.
She had been separated
from her husband,
and were all in a large group,
like I said about 15,
we'd all been separated
and my friend was
running by herself.
And the look of panic and
fear and terror on her face.
Get down.
Those are shots.
Those are shots.
Run. Those are shots.
Run. Don't look.
Run. Go.
Go. Go.
Everybody go.
Go. Run.
Keep your head down.
Go.
Keep your head down.
Go.
Run, keep your head down.
- I covered my wound and
grabbed Kimberly and we ran.
- At the moment that
we started running,
everybody started running.
Keep your head down.
Run. Go.
Keep your head down.
Go, you guys go.
Go. Go.
Run, run, run, run.
Are you fucking shitting me?
Let's go, get up.
Get up. Run.
Get up on your feet.
On your feet.
Let's go.
One of
you can certainly help me.
- Here.
- Thank you.
Get down.
- This lady started
following us and she,
she got hit in the face
by a bullet and she fell.
Her lifeless body just fell.
And that's when I
started talking now.
Basically me seeing her die,
it woke me up.
- So I rounded the corner and
it just kept getting closer.
And right at the base of the
bleachers there were two girls,
they were laying down,
I didn't know if they were hurt.
So I jumped over them,
which is maybe four seats in
front of my wife and friends,
'cause by then the noise was
so close I just knew it was,
so I jumped over
them and laid there.
And I remember thinking
just if I get hit,
make it be not a major organ.
And then I could
hear the bullets
hit the metallic bleachers.
Tink, tink, tink,
six or eight of them bounced up
and then the shooting stopped.
So I got off of the two girls,
I asked them if
they were all right.
And they said yeah,
what do we do?
What do we do?
- We ran into Losers tent,
everybody was in there
hiding behind the bar,
the gunfire still going off.
Then my boyfriend's a
sergeant with Metro,
we were there,
he wasn't working,
pulled out his badge and
he's telling everybody
in the tent when the
gunfire stopped that time
that we had to get out of there.
That bar wasn't gonna
stop the bullets
and if he shot into that tent,
we were all dead.
So I'm calling 9-1-1,
I can't get through,
I can't get through.
So I threw a post of
Facebook real quick
saying shots fired
from Mandalay Bay.
How were able to know that,
that it was coming
from Mandalay Bay?
- Because I saw that blinking
light on the tenth floor.
Well which was actually
the sixth floor,
because I didn't
count the bottom.
But the shots
came from the 32nd floor, so?
- I know, but it
was explained later
it was either a strobe
light or a reflection.
But it was just weird.
When that second
series came out,
I happened to be
looking at Mandalay Bay.
And so as it was firing it
was like.
And that like was going.
So I whole-heartedly believed
and that's why I said
I posted on Facebook.
I mean I have 1,200
friends and I'm like
somebody will see it,
tell the police where
it's coming from
'cause I couldn't
get through to 9-1-1.
- I never go to
the Mandalay Bay.
Never, never at that time.
At that time at ten
o'clock at night
and I just happened to drop off
from the airport across the way
and I came over and I thought
let's see what's goin on.
And I wanted to look at
something on Facebook
so I'm sitting there
looking on Facebook
and then we were moved
up just one or two cars.
So there I was still sitting
there at the Mandalay Bay
when I should've gone
back to the airport.
Something's going on.
And all the taxi drivers,
we're just doing whatever.
Just you know sitting there.
It wasn't very busy that night
so we were just minding
our own business,
waiting for us to keep
moving up in the taxi line.
I just thought it
was jackhammering.
And yeah, they do have
jackhammering at night
because it's warm.
For there being gunfire,
sure doesn't seem like
people are running.
Shit.
Seriously, I don't
know what's going on.
Never in the front of my mind,
the back of my mind, anywhere,
never did I think
that it was somebody
shooting and killing
people across
the street at a festival.
Where are the cops at?
I'm right here by the
porch at Mandalay Bay
and everything just
seems to be normal here.
But I finally did
pull out of line,
even though the other taxi
cabs were already there,
went underneath
where the valet is
and everybody's just
standing around.
Some dude sitting there
smoking a cigarette.
Do not go to Mandalay Bay.
Stay away from there.
- All right, I'm leaving.
This is ridiculous.
I don't know why
people aren't leaving.
This is insane.
Everybody is just
standing around.
It doesn't seem like
anybody's moving.
It seems like it's
coming from...
Shots fired.
They don't even know
the details yet.
I just talked to Metro
here at the airport.
They're still
getting the details.
- Just people standing around.
There's multiple injuries and...
You guys, there's shots fired.
That's all they're telling me.
They're not telling me
anything other than that.
They just said stay
away from there.
They're shutting the
whole place down.
All right this is crazy,
I don't know.
So the night goes on and I saw
that you picked up
a lot of people.
- I did.
Yeah, I picked up five
people and they all
crammed in the back of my cab.
Shooting at the festival
across from the Mandalay Bay.
Please try to stay away.
So now you got people running.
You got people climbing
over the fence there.
Peter said it
was across the street
at the festival by Mandalay Bay
where they have that
festival going on.
Yeah, you got people
climbing over the fence here
at the festival and
people running around.
Broken leg, broken leg.
Broken leg.
What happened?
Is there somebody out there?
Go. Go.
All right.
Oh god, there is
an after shooter.
Okay.
So many people are dead.
Are you kidding me?
No, we're not.
Go. Go. Go.
Close the door.
Close the door.
We're trying to.
Close the door.
I'm trying to.
Is everybody in?
Okay, all right.
I'm going, I'm going.
Oh shit.
Please drive as fast as you can.
I am.
Where are we going?
The first two people that got in
they said broken
leg, broken leg.
She's got a broken leg.
I said okay, get in.
Where you wanna go?
And they're all
just drive, drive.
And then I guess all these
other people started,
three other people got in,
and they're like go, go, go, go.
And they were just scared
out of their minds.
No, I'm not going
anywhere near the Luxor.
Can you take us far away?
Get the fuck out of Vegas.
Oh my god.
Just keep driving out of town.
Seriously,
thousands of people are dead.
Everybody's bloody.
You're kidding.
No, swear to God.
No joke, just drive.
I'm driving.
There are people in the street.
All right.
Get out of the way.
Good lord.
Okay.
Drive faster.
All right, I'm going.
- Please.
- Drive faster.
All right.
Yeah, this is a really
serious situation.
I've got a bunch of people
in my cab from that festival.
Everybody's shot, thousands.
Thousands are shot, all right.
Okay, I'm going.
We're going, we're
getting out of here.
- We live literally
probably five miles away
and actually I can see
the strip from my house
and I could see helicopters
flying in that
general direction.
You hear cop cars,
you hear ambulances.
It was just chaos, utter chaos.
And we received a phone call
from one of our employees
that shots were
fired on the strip.
We turn on the news,
nothing had happened yet,
nothing was said.
Went to social
media, on Facebook,
and we noticed some posts
of saying shots fired,
gunshots heard at Mandalay Bay.
Then proceeded to
check my wife's phone
who has closed
circuit cameras of
her galleries that she works at.
And pulled up the
Mandalay Bay Gallery
and we noticed people
running down the hallway,
people running into the
store hiding behind desks.
- That night I was working in
the casino in a store there.
Then one of my other
co-workers calls me up
to let me know that
there's a shooting
going on across the street.
So I'm on the phone with him now
and I think he's
playing a prank on me.
I'm like I know you're
playing with me, man.
He's like no, I
wouldn't joke with you
about something like this.
So I go to the computer
and I start to look it up.
I'm looking up the
Route 91 Festival
and what's goin go and
there's nothing on it
'cause it's happening right now.
So then I get a customer come in
and start asking me questions
and it takes my mind
off of it for a second.
Two more people come
in and they say hey,
there's an active
shooter going on,
we have to hide.
So my instinct was to rush the
people that are in the store,
there's four people and then me,
so five people total,
I rush us all out through
the back of the store
into the storage room that
is back behind the shops.
- I was standing on
Las Vegas Boulevard
and there's two officers
standing about 10 feet from me
and so I looked at them,
I said that's gunfire, right?
And so they started walking
towards Mandalay Bay
and I started walking
that way also.
And so I just grabbed my phone
and just kinda held it up.
Do you want
me to take care of this
and you go there?
I just need bandages, man.
Four by fours or gauze.
Shit.
Medical, they're not gonna come
while shots are
still being fired.
You're gonna be all right.
- What is going on right now?
- A lot of people were
coming out of this one exit,
so I was helping to direct
them to go the right direction.
Keep your head down,
run this way.
Keep your head down.
Run this way.
Keep your head down.
Run that way.
Keep your head down.
Run this way.
Keep your head down.
Run that way.
And there was some
people that were huddled
by the fence and
I was just trying
to tell them you'd
be safer to go.
You need to run that way,
you'd be a lot safer.
- Which way?
- Run that way.
Go while they're not shooting.
Go.
There was a pretty good
amount of time in between
when he was shooting and
when he wasn't shooting.
We're trying to
just get the people
to move when it wasn't,
when the fire wasn't happening.
The one gentleman
asked for help,
he said he'd been shot.
And so I walk him back
over to the safe area.
I need help.
What's wrong?
I've been shot in the arm.
You've been shot?
- I need 9-1-1.
I need an ambulance.
Okay, here.
Try and keep your head down,
go this way.
You have a tourniquet on?
- Yeah, they put one on me.
Stay low, go left.
- I need an ambulance.
There ain't nobody
here to help us.
Where are the ambulances?
You okay?
No. I
need an ambulance.
I've been shot.
Get down. Get down.
There's a guy shooting
from the Mandalay Bay.
He's been shot.
Do we have medical
setup somewhere yet?
- Take them east.
They're not gonna come this way,
take them east.
Come on this side of the wall,
come this way.
Stay right here.
He's been shot.
Just relax.
Relax, relax.
You okay, you okay?
Keep it above your heart.
Yeah, hold it up.
Hold it above your heart.
Is that fucking tight enough?
Tourniquet?
- He's got a tourniquet.
Someone let me see that shirt.
He's got one on it.
Put some pressure on it.
You got in the elbow?
No, my forearm.
My gut hurts though.
Did you get shot in the gut?
Does somebody have a flashlight?
I need to get this tight enough.
Ah it's tight.
No, it's not.
He's got one in his chest too.
You got in the
upper ribcage, chest.
I do got one?
Yes.
It probably went through your arm
and then went
through the ribcage.
- I'm medical, stop.
Turn that light off.
Put this on his chest.
The chest ain't gonna do it,
it's a chest wound.
It ain't gonna fuckin do nothin’,
but this is gonna stop
this bleeding on his arm.
Hey, look at me.
What's your name, bro?
- Doug.
- Doug, I'm sergeant Layton,
I'm Las Vegas Metro, Okay?
Relax, we've got you.
- I'm trying.
- I'm off duty cop,
just look at me.
- I don't care.
I want help.
I want an ambulance.
I'll go try and find medical.
I'll be right back.
And I went and got my truck
and came back to get him
and anyone else who
was in the area.
So I loaded up I think six
or seven people in the truck.
We got shot.
Can we put him in your car?
Yeah, let's bring him here.
I'll take him to the hospital.
Okay, let's
get him in the truck.
I'll take him to metro.
Bring the guy with the chest.
And one there.
Right here, come in here.
Come in on this side,
Right here.
Do we have any other
wounded people you can take?
- Not right now.
Okay, let's go.
The quiet of being in the truck,
it was just silent.
I think I even said out loud
now what am I gonna
do with these people?
As I saw the ambulances over on
the other side of the street
I just made a u-turn to
where all the medics were.
I got five wounded.
Ease me up.
One second, man.
We have one critical
with gunshot wound
to the chest here.
Someone help me, please.
Please, I'm bleeding
so much, man.
Sit down, sit down.
Sit down.
Were you afraid
while you were filming
that you may lose your life?
- I didn't really
think about it at all.
It was kinda just I said before,
it was almost like I felt
like I was in a movie.
It was almost like I was just
going through the motions.
It wasn't until days after
that it kinda sunk in.
- And we stayed low and
we went up the bleachers,
we went through the lounge,
we went down the stairs,
and we kind of ended
up on the field.
And I remember
looking at the field
and couldn't tell you why
I looked at the field,
in some sense I wish I
hadn't looked at the field,
but all you saw was
bodies and blood.
- I was a paramedic
for a long time,
so I was fighting
with trying to decide
if my role was to
go back and help
or to help my friends get out.
And one our best
friend's wife grabbed me
by the back of the shirt
and I turned around,
I didn't even notice
she was there,
and she said just please
get me out of here.
And at that point I
decided to get her out.
So we ended up going
out and unfortunately
when we got out of
the concert venue,
we were back on the street
and could see the
Mandalay Bay again.
So we waited for a
break in the shooting
and took off down the street.
And I remember
looking to my right,
there was a body laying
by the police cars
and that was like my
first visual reality.
Up until then I heard
people getting hurt
and knew people
were getting hurt,
but then I knew that
it was really serious.
- There was a lot of heroism,
there was a lot of humanity.
I saw it firsthand
when I was able
to get out onto the street.
There at that time there
were not many ambulances,
if any at all.
But there were people
in regular automobiles
and SVUs taking bodies, people,
into their cars and
taking them to hospitals.
- I've never seen
anything like it.
It was amazing.
It was amazing to see
people running into that
to help other people,
complete strangers
they didn't even know.
- Strangers just making
sure like when I fell,
a guy just came
from out of nowhere,
picked me up,
are you okay?
- A lot of people ran
under the stage, hiding.
So we had to get flashlights
and pull everybody out of there.
Seeing people crying.
I look and then I see
another people carrying
another barricade
with a lady facedown
and you could see the red
bullet hole on her back
and they were carrying
her out like that.
- For you to stick around
and think of others
rather than yourself,
that says a lot about you.
- Not for me to say.
I just did what I could and
there was times I would lay down
in bed thinking what
more could I have done?
Maybe going around looking
for more gates to open up,
I don't know.
- So you turned your Toyota
Tacoma into a rescue car.
- Inside of my vehicle was full,
outside of my vehicle was full.
- How many can you fit in there?
- Realistically, six in
the back of the truck,
five in the front of the truck,
but I'm telling you there
was a lot more than that.
Once we started loading we
had plenty of people in there.
I felt lost because it's
such a small vehicle,
I wished I had a bigger vehicle,
I wish we could take everybody.
You didn't wanna deny anybody.
- There was a bullet
hole in your car,
when was that
bullet fired at you
and do you recall being shot at?
- There's been a
couple different ideas
where that came from,
my initial thought
was that was ricochet
and it came off the pavement.
But it was interesting
because I had a gentleman
running to the vehicle
that I ran into
at the survival group
later at a meetup group
who identified himself as the
person who ran to my vehicle
and put a dent in my door
just trying to get in,
whatever else.
And he said the time
we were loading people
he heard the gunshot
and he recalls it
hitting my truck then and there.
I can't prove or deny that,
nor do I need to,
but he's very adamant
that it happened
while we were loading people
in the back of the truck.
- Is there one image
from that night
that will stick
with you forever?
- Absolutely.
A very vibrant, beautiful
young girl was delivered to me.
I remember looking at
her wanting to help her,
get her to safety,
and she was delivered
in a wheelbarrow.
And I'm looking at her just
like we're gonna be okay,
we're gonna get you there,
and then somebody comes around
the corner around my shoulder,
looks at a friend of
hers and said honey,
how long she not been breathing?
Hit me, hit me real hard.
'cause I had no clue.
That moment there
from everything that
happened afterwards was
just adrenaline going,
just reacting.
I was lost at that point.
- The medic tent was full.
I said to someone is
there something I can do?
I work in health care.
And she said well
maybe over there,
if you go over there there's
an ambulance over there.
Maybe you can help over there.
I just walked.
I was alone.
I don't know where
anybody else was.
So I walked over and
there were people
loading people onto the rails
that they make the fence with,
the metal rails.
They loaded this guy
that had been shot
up onto this monster truck.
And he was laying on this rail
and they started to take off.
So I kept walking,
I got over to the ambulance,
there was a young girl there.
She was hyperventilating,
she was kinda coming in
and out of consciousness.
Somebody said can you help her?
And I started doing
the sternal rub on her
trying to keep her conscious.
And she said my boyfriend,
he's been shot,
they took him away.
I left him,
he's all alone.
I've gotta find him.
I said okay, okay.
I didn't cry,
I was okay.
I said okay,
we gotta go somewhere
where we can
get you a ride to the hospital.
Hey you guys,
get down.
Go that way.
Get out of here.
There's gunshots
coming from over there.
Go that way.
Go that way.
Go that way,
go that way,
go that way.
They're shooting
right at us, guys.
Everybody stay down.
Stay down.
So when did you
find out that the shooter
was firing from the top
of the Mandalay Bay?
- When we went back to the room
and we had the news
on, early morning.
We were in our hotel room
'cause we were bunkered down
and we had all the lights off,
all the doors locked.
We didn't turn the
TV on until later on
'cause we were kind of afraid,
we didn't know
what was going on.
So you were just quiet?
- We were quiet.
Social media started going
crazy at the same aspect,
so when we were there
they were saying it was
an active shooter at the New
York New York at the time.
They were saying there
were active shooters
at the Tropicana, at Hooters.
They were saying there were
shooters all over the strip.
So we had no idea
what was going on.
This was all on social media.
Did you think you
were gonna die that night?
- I did, I did.
In Tropicana I definitely
started to feel pretty weak
and I was just
waiting for that light
supposedly they
say was gonna come.
- We got to the
backside of Tropicana
and we went up the stairs and
the turmoil didn't stop there.
All of a sudden you
see a group of people
running out going there's
a shooter inside Tropicana,
run, run, run.
And I'm just like at that
point I looked at my husband,
I was like you have
got to be kidding me.
And so we turned around
with everybody else
and came back down the stairs.
And I remember seeing one of
the security guards
like on the bottom
and he was holding the door open
for people to run into
the basement area.
And I remember
just looking at him
and I was like is there a
shooter inside the hotel?
And he was like what?
And I was like is there a
shooter inside the hotel?
They're all running out saying
there's a shooter
inside the hotel.
And he was like no,
there's no shooter
inside the hotel.
And I was like okay.
I looked at my husband and I'm
like we're going to our room.
- Made it to the first floor,
got in the room and I told
everybody leave the lights off.
We ended up with maybe six kids,
I call them kids,
25, 20, 25 year olds that were
scared to death hiding up there,
so we brought them in our room
and just sat in the
dark below the windows
for a couple of hours before
we were brave enough
to turn the TV on.
These are complete strangers?
- The kids were
complete strangers.
We were sharing phone chargers,
we had like two phone
chargers in the bathroom.
So we were rotating them,
because their parents were
trying to get ahold of them.
Did you take
anyone else anywhere?
- No, because well I was
freaked out as it is,
but they were
saying on the radio,
on my radio,
okay, well they've
closed off the strip,
they closed off everything,
you can't get near the strip.
I just went back to my base,
my taxi base.
And it was so weird, Charlie.
I've never shook like this.
I was shaking,
I was in shock I guess.
It was the most surreal
18 minutes of my life.
It really was.
It's like it wasn't happening.
It was like I was
in a dream world.
Tell us how you
found out about the story.
- I think I found out like a
lot of people did that night.
So my producer
gives me the call,
I immediately hop out of bed,
put on whatever
shirt I could find.
- My editor had actually
texted a group of our reporters
hey, there's word that there's
an active shooter
at Mandalay Bay.
I just kind of thought okay,
well let's figure out
if this is real or not.
The second I realized that
this was probably real,
there was like a switch
that went on inside of me.
Going to something where you
really don't know
what's going on,
grounded myself and I
just went to the hospital.
It was around 10:30, 11:00,
by the time that we
got these reports.
Just got in my car
and started driving.
The highways were
backed up already.
Police were starting
to shutdown exits.
- So the strip's shutdown,
freeway's shutdown,
the only cars we seem
to see on the road,
on the freeway,
were police cars.
And it's just empty.
You don't see emptiness
on the strip on any day,
let alone a weekend,
let alone a weekend night.
- The editor texted me and said
to go to Sunrise Medical Center
where some of the victims
had been transported.
So I got in my car,
drove there.
And that was a very
heavy experience.
There was discarded clothing
in the front of the
shopping center,
there was a discarded bloody
plaid shirt by the parking lot.
That image has stuck with me.
- And I went to, again,
University Medical
Center which is the only
level one trauma
center in Nevada.
And because I knew that,
I figured if this was serious,
that most of the critical
victims would be taken there.
Stayed out of the way,
I was around the corner
from the trauma entrance.
There was a trauma
nurse that came out,
I was kinda chatting
with her for a little bit
and her face was white and
she just kept saying it's bad,
it's bad, it's bad.
I've worked here for 10 years,
I've never seen anything
like this, it's bad.
- I think some of us might find
some form of peace
with just answers.
It's not gonna
change what happened,
but I don't understand it.
Why haven't videos
been released?
If MGM did everything
they were supposed to do,
why haven't they put it
all out on the table?
- Periodically we need to know
that they're working on it.
I can't just have
you tell me that
we're investigating
it and that's it.
I need to know well what
are you investigating
and what were your findings?
I feel like we're being letdown
and with that comes the
we're being forgotten.
- I do find myself at
night looking at videos
trying to find different
perspectives of what went on.
To see some of the
other questions
that people have out there
that are not answered.
There's a lot of things that
they're changing as it goes on
and it seems like they're trying
to make the scenario
work this way,
because this is how
we need to spin it.
I'm not pushing the blame
anywhere to anything,
all I wanna know is
why this happened.
Why this guy took 58
people's lives for no reason,
had so much arsenal
up in a hotel room
that nobody knew about.
How does he drill
holes in walls,
setup surveillance for three
days and nobody notice?
Do you think
about this every single day?
- Every single hour of the day.
It's hard.
I try to think of
the happy moments,
but it won't go away.
And I would just like answers.
I would like to know
what really happened.
- The ER department has
worked through the night
to identify all the
victims of Sunday evening's
mass shooting at the
Route 91 Harvest Festival.
We have identified
all but three victims.
We still have an active
scene at the grounds
near Mandalay Bay
so we ask anyone
to stay away from that
area until further notice.
The FBI is working diligently
to clear that scene.
So he gets shot
and he calls it in right away
and he gives the room number.
And there was police
inside the Mandalay Bay
when it was called
in by Jesus Campos,
right when the rampage began.
So armed security
is there as well.
I'll give them three minutes
to get to the 32nd floor,
especially when you hear
that shots were fired.
- Right.
So then that shooting
could've been interrupted
right in the beginning stages.
Police took at least 10 minutes
to get to the killer's room.
Do you have a problem with that?
- You know that 10 minutes
that they said he shot,
seemed like an hour.
I hope someone starts
bringing it up again
and talking about what
really went on in Vegas,
what really happened.
'cause like you said,
the victims that died that day,
they deserve it.
They deserve to know why
their loved ones were lost.
- I just felt like they
were being overly cautious.
And I know that's
easy for me to say
because I didn't have to
breach the room where he was.
I just think that they could
have done things faster.
Metro dropped the ball and I
feel bad saying that because...
How so?
- I think more people
could have been saved.
And now when I say
dropping ball now,
I think they should
keep us more informed.
I think that's why there's
so many conspiracy theories.
- Oh it's very troubling that
it took so long for cops,
for police officers
to enter the room.
Clearly the Mandalay Bay resorts
and MGM resorts
were not prepared.
They didn't do what
they needed to do
to protect the innocent people.
- For the amount of
time that it took
for him to take those lives,
something should've been done.
Somehow he could
have been stopped.
There should've been
more cops up there.
They knew where the room was,
it took them awhile.
It took them awhile to get the
okay to go up to the floor.
Why do you think
they would need the okay
when here is a guy that
says shots were fired?
- That I don't know.
That I don't know.
- There's a lot of
information I do know,
but it's an ongoing
investigation.
And when I say I do not know,
I may know.
But as you can imagine in
a criminal investigation,
we wanna ensure the continued
safety of our community
and that all those
questions are answered.
And I assure you this
investigation is not ended.
- What happened inside
that hotel suite?
That's what we want to know.
What happened and
how did it happen?
How did they let this happen?
- And they know.
- They do know.
And they're not telling us.
- My name is Doug Poppa.
I'm a former US Army
military policeman,
former police officer,
deputy sheriff
criminal investigator,
and spent 20 years in the hotel
casino industry in Las Vegas
as director of security
at two properties.
Prior to that I was
an investigator for
the MGM Grand hotel.
MGM Resorts International
and the Las Vegas
Metro Police Department
Sheriff Lombardo
to this date have not
released one shred of evidence
to back up anything
that they have said
on anything that they've
comment to the press.
What I did initial in my
investigation when I did this,
I timed from the first time
they knew about shots fired
and the first call that came in
came from a police officer
inside the concert venue.
He calls in we have shots fired.
I timed it from that
point until the time
the officers arrived
on the 32nd floor
and it was about
18 minutes later.
Now when they arrive
on the 32nd floor,
the first comment
those officers say
is we have a security
officer who's been shot,
the shots are definitely
coming from room 135
and the officer,
the security officer,
is standing by the elevator.
So my thing has
always been this,
if metro police officers and
Mandalay Bay security officers
are in the conversation
and that all of a sudden
across the security radio
they hear Jesus Campos
calling in that he's
shot from the 32nd floor,
why didn't the police
dispatcher know
right then where the
shots were coming from?
Because then people
could have immediately
responded up to that floor,
but that did not happen.
Because we never hear
that on the police radio.
For 15 minutes everybody's
talking on the radio
where are the shots coming from?
Campos said the room number.
- Yes.
So then why
should there be any confusion?
- That's exactly my point.
If he said over the
radio and I didn't hear,
I heard the recording they
released later on, okay.
MGM released recording.
He said 3-2-1-3-5.
- That's what he said.
Now Sheriff Joe Lombardo at
the first press conference
in the early morning
hours of October second
told the press that once
we found out the shooter
was coming from the 32nd floor,
the officers went up there
and they engaged the suspect.
He left out a very
important factor.
Fact was is they didn't
go into that room,
that room was not
breached until an hour
and five minutes after
the last shot was fired.
According to the police,
the last shots were
fired at 10:15.
One lone SWAT officer,
I'll get into that
a little bit later,
but the lone swat officer
with three patrol officers
breached that door at 11:20.
So that's one hour
and five minutes
after the last shots were fired.
A full SWAT team never
arrived in that stairwell.
When that door was
breached at 11:20,
there was one lone SWAT officer.
His name was Levi Hancock.
His team members never
arrived to back him up.
He had to use an ad
hoc team of officers,
two K-9 officers,
with Sergeant
Bitsko K-9 officer,
Dave Newton was a K-9 officer,
and Matthew Donaldson
who was in uniform.
He used those three
officers as his team,
because his SWAT team
members never showed up
to back up their lone
SWAT team officer.
That question to me
is very important.
Where were they?
- I don't think the blame lies
on the police for
getting there slowly.
If there is blame,
and this will come
out eventually,
is the way the call was made.
Should it have gone to his boss?
Which is common
practice at casinos,
some say because it
prevents the public
from knowing about crime
that takes place in casinos.
Or is that a good thing?
Because some say if
he calls his boss,
his boss can then
call the police
which will make it easier
for them to find the spot
where the crime is taking place.
Sheriff Lombardo has
been very appreciative
publicly of MGM for
all the help they've
been able to give through
this investigation.
MGM has financed
and will probably
continue to finance
the sheriff's campaign.
Is that a conflict of interest?
I don't know.
Do you think there's some
kind of coverup going on here?
That's what a lot
of people are saying
that I've interviewed.
- I'm really uncomfortable
with the lack of information.
The shooter they're saying
the news we have now
is he has no Facebook presence,
he was a basic kind of a ghost.
The security guard initially
no Facebook presence,
no online presence.
I just don't know how an
individual could do that
accidentally in
this day and age.
- And Campos disappeared
right after the shooting
and then showed up on Ellen
with a scripted
response and story.
And that's not just
my interpretation
of Campos on Ellen,
that's coming from all of my
clients that I've spoken to.
And some who didn't
wanna watch it,
did anyways and couldn't believe
that that was the story that
was being provided to them.
- It's just not an event that
you make a comedic event.
And she made it comedic in every
which way she could possible.
Then she went and rewarded
them with football tickets.
It was a
horrendous softball interview,
let's face it.
- It pissed all of us off.
It pissed me off.
I couldn't even watch
the whole interview.
I read more about it
and when I found out
ate the end he got season
passes to go watch the Raiders,
I was like this is a joke.
This is an absolute joke.
- It was a publicity stunt to
try to get their good PR back.
Right, they're trying to get
themselves to look good again.
Let’s present him as a hero.
Let’s tell Ellen what to ask,
let’s tell him what to say to
make him look like a hero.
And it was offensive to the
22,000 people that were there.
To this day he's
gone underground.
No one else has been able
to contact him, find him.
MGM had him sequestered in
a property that they own.
One of our investigators
went to his house
and there is a security guard,
plain clothes,
parked outside of
his house in a car,
just an unmarked car,
that is most likely
employed by MGM
who hopped out quickly and
cut her off at the path
and said whoa, whoa, whoa,
what do you need?
Can I help you?
No, you can't
knock on that door.
No, you can't go in.
No, he's not here.
So they're holding him.
So the whole thing is a sham.
If you saw Campos
what would you ask him?
- Why are you in hiding?
What are you hiding?
- We're a community here for you
if you're part of
our survivor group,
but hiding makes me
feel like you're not.
- MGM is concerned
about their liability.
They should be.
- The liability,
the magnitude of liability
on this case for MGM
is potentially chapter
11 bankruptcy for MGM.
That's how much
liability exists.
So they're going to be hunkered
down protecting themselves
and that's the way that it
is because it is a major
need that the people who
where involved, our clients,
that they know what happened.
Psychologically and to
heal from the trauma.
So MGM's by protecting
their money,
they're hurting the
people that were
the victims of this
horrendous crime.
- I said that incompetence
led to this massacre
and the death of 58 people
and the wounding and injuring.
And people said why
do you say that?
And I said it's very simple.
Number one, the Las Vegas
metropolitan police department,
they coordinate all
these festivals,
the concerts like this.
The Route 91 music
festival was almost
on the corner of Tropicana
and Las Vegas Boulevard,
right behind the
Tropicana hotel,
Mandalay Bay's over there,
Luxor over there,
Excalibur over there,
New York New York across
the street over there,
MGM Grand across the street on
Tropicana on the other side.
Now, nobody from
the command staff
of the Las Vegas metro
police department
ever thought that
that outside venue
opened up from the top
could be vulnerable
to an elevated sniper attack?
Because that's happened 20,
30, 40 years in this country,
elevated sniper attack
in this country.
Nobody thought about that.
And the reason why I say that is
because had they had counter
snipers available standing by,
they could have
responded very quickly
and at least countered his fire,
the gunman's fire from
coming out the window.
So suppress it.
That didn't happen.
Were the exit signs
clearly marked at the venue?
- No.
And I had made reference
to that two years ago
and then this year I had
made the same statement.
Specifically about Route 91?
- Specifically about Route 91.
That I felt like we were
being herded in like cattle.
In and out.
There was only one way in and
one way out that we knew of.
- And I also blame the hotels.
I spent 20 years in the
hotel casino industry,
not only as an investigator
but as director
and security surveillance
at two different properties.
Since 9/11, every hotel
casino in Las Vegas
was advised by the US
Department of Homeland Security
that the infrastructure
is vulnerable
to an active shooter incident
or a Mumbai-type
terrorist attack.
And people say what
does that have to do
with the gunman at
the Mandalay Bay?
Very simple,
he rolled in 23 weapons,
loaded magazines,
a thousand rounds ammunition,
hundreds of magazines.
Now, had there been
an explosive K-9
detection team there as
stuff was rolling in,
that K-9, the dog,
90% with their
nose would have hit
on the explosive
residue in those bags.
The magazines,
if he touched ammunition,
the guns were fire,
they weren't cleaned.
The dog would have hit on it.
- How did he get all
of that stuff up there?
How do they have no
videotape of him?
How did they not hear
him drilling a hole
as a person next
to him in a room?
- The cameras in Las Vegas
can zoom in so close.
Well today with
modern technology, yeah.
- With the technology I mean,
if I'm a bartender
and my bank is short,
security can pull
up right up under me
and watch me count every dollar.
Be like oh she counted 20
dollars short or something.
So I just don't
understand with all these,
I know everybody just not
looking at the blackjack table.
You can catch
people counting cards,
we couldn't catch all this?
- Why do you think
we have virtually no
video of the killer?
- Well we've requested
surveillance footage
of the gunman in the casino.
Obviously we know he walked
in the casino at some point,
had bags helped up to
his room at some point.
He did switch rooms
at some point.
And he I'm guessing
was gambling,
because we know he was a pretty
consistent video poker player.
So we know that there's probably
footage that exists
of him around
the casino and
we've requested it.
But again, that's just
one of the many things
that we haven't had access to.
- Our office sent out the
subpoenas to MGM right away
and we were met with
legal maneuvering
and denials and refusals.
- The statement in
response has always been
we will out of respect
for the victims
we will address this through
the appropriate legal channels.
But really just hunkering down,
not providing any information,
fighting us at every turn.
And that has been
a big frustration
not just for the lawyers,
for myself and for Catherine,
but also for our clients.
Somebody most likely
helped him move
10 large suitcases full
of ammunition and guns.
Whether or not the employee knew
that that's what he was doing,
the general elevator where
you're going up and down,
you're gonna be seen by people.
There's gonna be people
that are watching you.
And if you're a high
roller and you're just
going up and down
the freight elevator,
that's considered
okay by the employees.
And that is very
concerning for us
that that was allowed.
From what we know it does
not look good for MGM.
From my understanding
and from what I know
is that the killer had
a do not disturb sign
on his door for three days.
And that went
unquestioned by security.
- Now the big debate is what
level of privacy should we
expect when we go to a casino
on the Las Vegas strip?
What is the difference
between safety and security?
I don't know what
their policy is,
because MGM won't say
what the policy is
when it comes to
stuff like that.
Some casinos are already
changing their policies
to say we have a 12 hour policy.
If you have a do no
disturb on your door,
we're gonna check that
out after 12 hours.
Because no one should
have a placard on
for that long without
it being checked.
- MGM Resorts is running
a publicity campaign
to claim that somehow they
couldn't foresee this happening.
But I'm not buying that,
because I believe it
was totally foreseeable
based on the recent terror
events not only in the US,
but around the world.
All they had to do
was tell the people
staying at the hotel
in the view rooms
if they went through an
airport style metal detector,
the gunman never
would have been able
to bring up all his weaponry,
all his ammunition.
He would have been stopped.
It never would have happened.
So mothers and fathers
would still be alive,
husbands and wives
would be alive,
boyfriends, girlfriends
would be alive,
children would have their
mothers and fathers.
What's your
reaction to people saying
well you can't go around
checking everyone's luggage,
it's impossible?
- You can check luggage
very, very quickly,
very, very efficiently.
Especially if
you're only checking
people who are just moving
it up into the upper floors.
And I understand
people they understand
their privacy's at risk and
that does have to be weighed.
And that's something
the legal process
is also going to address.
Privacy concerns are a
matter of public policy
and they are addressed
on the judicial level.
So I would tell people
let's see what MGM knew
and what could have
been done to prevent it
before we start
talking about well,
we're gonna have to
just check every bag
or we're gonna have to
have metal detectors
and our privacy's all gone.
Well I think we shouldn't jump
to those types of conclusions.
I think we should take
a look at the evidence,
see what could have
been done to prevent it.
But of course,
if that's what has to be done,
then people have to
understand when they go
and stay in a large
hotel where everybody's
safety is at stake,
they're going to have to
submit just like on an airplane
or a at large theme park,
to some level of security.
Just to make sure someone can't
bring in an arsenal of weapons.
- Vegas was honestly
Vegas Strong.
Everybody came together.
And it should be like
that all the time.
It shouldn't have to
take something like this
to get everybody together.
The next day the blood drives,
it was incredible.
Everybody showed up.
There was like a
seven hour wait,
five hour wait,
they still stayed there.
Everybody actually cared
about the humanity,
about the fellow man.
- We are a lot
stronger after this.
Those people will never
be forgotten in this town.
This town will survive,
but this horrible tragedy
will never be forgotten.
This is what puts
food on our table.
This is what makes
this city run.
Without tourism this
city isn't here.
This is just desert.
And for that to happen,
it was just a slap
in the locals' faces
and I felt disgusted
that someone
would come here and do that.
- It has changed
a lot internally.
We are very resilient
her in Vegas,
a strong community,
we have #vegasstrong that
we're promoting worldwide.
All the hotels and businesses
are showing their support
for people that were
injured in the event.
If you had all 58
fallen victims in one room,
what would you tell them?
- First of all
probably that I'm sorry
that a lot of their lives
were ended so quickly,
so soon.
But I guess that in honor
of them and because of them,
they have sparked this
revolution across the world.
It isn't even just here,
it's everywhere
from this tragedy.
That people are doing good
things in their memory.
And I think that's
a wonderful thing.
I think that's the best thing
that anybody can
do for somebody.
I wouldn't want
somebody mourning me.
I would want somebody going out
and doing good deeds
in memory of me.
- You're so afraid
to go to sleep
'cause you don't wanna
have those nightmares.
Do you think
about this every day?
- Every day.
- Every day.
- We live, we breath it.
And you almost want not to.
And we're not the same
women we were before,
we're two different people.
We left and came home not whole.
And we're finding
our new normal.
- There hasn't been
a day that's gone by
that I don't think about it.
I'm grateful,
if grateful's even
a big enough word,
to be out alive.
I had cuts and
scrapes and bruises,
but grateful to be alive.
To be able to go home and
hug my kids and my family.
We live near a shooting range,
an outdoor shooting range.
I don't walk my kids
to school anymore.
I don't go to the
school and pick them up.
We're close,
they can walk home,
they're old enough now.
But we live by an
outdoor shooting range
and the sound of automatic
gunfire every day comes in.
I'll hear it and it
puts me right back
in that moment when I
look at my husband and say
what drunk idiot set off a brick
of firecrackers in
an crowd of people?
And the whole thing replays.
- At first the first
couple of weeks,
it was depression.
And I just didn't even
wanna get out of bed.
It's almost like you're going
for a funeral for 58 people
when you go visit
the Mandalay Bay.
It was very, very sad.
And I had to leave work
after a couple of weeks,
panic attacks.
And then one day I just said
I can't keep living like this.
It humbled me.
And I'm happy to be
alive, I made it.
So it changed me to just
appreciate good people
and to help people.
- A friend of mine
that I worked with
was passing out the
bands and giving us
our polo shirts to wear,
21 years old, Erick Silva,
he didn't make it.
And I will never take this off.
Never.
So that thing's been
on your wrist since
October first?
- Yeah, and it will
never come off.
- Who knows what
could've happened
if I moved differently
one second prior to that.
- And there's 58
people that passed away
and didn't get to live that
second chapter of their life
and I feel like I need
to live it for them.
- Will you ever go back
this concert, Route 91?
- Absolutely.
You don't go back, he wins.
Whoever the shooter was or were,
they win if you don't go back.
- How do you think the
community changed in Vegas?
You're someone who's lived
there for a long time.
- Yeah, I don't think
it's changed a lot.
I think it just showed how tight
of a community it is.
It's a big city,
but it's a small town feeling.
It showed how good the people
are that live in the city.
It was amazing to see
after what all happened
you would go to
the grocery store,
we went to pick some stuff
up for the fire department
and there's four,
five different people
filling carts full to take it
all over the city
wherever they needed it.
And you're going
to the blood bank
and you're getting turned down,
because the line's
around the corner.
So it just showed the
support that everyone
had in the city
for what happened.
We're 65 games in,
whatever we are now,
there's still a big part of us
that are playing for the city.
You still get told
that the games
are just a time
for people to take
their mind of what happened.
Whatever we can do to
help those people heal
we're willing to do it.
And when you're winning games
it makes it that much better.
- Anything else Deryk Engelland
actually would like to add
to tell all the Las Vegas fans
and just anything you'd
like to add about anything?
- We're still Vegas Strong.
Do you get a lot of customers
asking you about the incident?
- Yeah, I do.
And before I wanted
to tell everybody,
but now I only talk about
it if they bring it up.
If they say how's Vegas doing?
And I say well
you know it's okay
and did you see
any of the videos?
No, and then I don't
really say anything.
But if they say
so were you there
the night of the shooting?
I say well,
you asked me so
I'm gonna tell ya.
And sometimes I even
show them the video.
- It tells you that
tomorrow's not a given.
And I never thought I'd
say that here in America,
that I'd be part of
something like this.
You take your day that
you have, enjoy it.
Because you never know.