L'autre monde (2013) - full transcript

Hidden deep in the south of France, practically untouched by the modern age, is a place known by many as 'the Zone'. In this space, the supernatural is an everyday reality of life. Magic is everywhere. It is reason. It is currency. It is unquestionable fact. Prepare yourself for a journey into life on the other side of the mirror. Legendary filmmaker Richard Stanley (HARDWARE, DUST DEVIL, as well as a string of stunning documentaries) has never been under spoken about his studies in mysticism and the occult. A trained anthropologist whose brain glows with secret knowledge and forgotten histories, Stanley has spent decades exploring the literal fantastic.

One cannot penetrate the labyrinth

by moving in a straight line.

THE OTHERWORLD

Here, in the south of France,

exists a web of

concentrated telluric energies.

A portal in Montségur,

Rennes-m-Chéteau and Bugarach.

Together they form a gateway

to the otherworld.

Seven centuries ago,

crusaders perpetuated a genocide

against the Occitan countries

and the Cathar faith.

In 1244, they besieged Montségur

where 210 martyrs

condemned by

the Church of Rome

died at the stake.

But their faith and occult science

didn't die with them.

MONTSEGUR - SUMMER SOLSTICE - 2012 AD

URANIE - sorcerer

It's that time of the year when

there's a sort of portal...

A gate that might open

onto a spiritual world.

And which allows

some people who so desire

to accomplish

a transmutation. It's alchemical.

And it's part of a system

that was adopted by

the Cathars and the Templars

from ancient prehistoric

and megalithic sites

designed to capture and channel

the different telluric

and cosmic energies.

And here in Montségur,

the castle is built according

to a certain geometric shape

according to siderial geography...

It's a sort of... How can I put this?

Sort of testament they left behind.

It's a tradition that goes

way back in time.

And that's the Cathar heritage.

The Cathar Grail that was

described by Otto Rahn:

is the geometric

form of the castle, the way it's built,

the way you make

your way around it...

It's the geometric symbolism

of the star system,

the pentagram: incarnation of the flesh

the hexagram: the union of

heaven and earth...

It's very symbolic and at the same time,

it's like radionics. Waves that form shapes.

The connection has been established

by people who supposedly had access to

the spiritual dimension

and whose mission it was to transmit that

knowledge over time.

And speaking of

those portals or gates,

they're still very much active.

Science and all that...

That's for trying to understand

how all this works,

so as to gain access

to other worlds, you see?

It's a place where obviously,

things happen to people

who come in search of something,

like all the ones present here tonight...

There was a time about twenty years ago

when a lot more people were present

here for the solstices.

There were Occitans, nazis, hippies...

There were Krishnas,

and even inquisitors

recognizable from

their Dominican clothing

present hereto see

what was going on...

They were intrigued,

they were wondering

what so many people were doing

at Montségur, freezing their butt off

just to look at a ray of sunlight.

There are stories about solar temples

because this ray of light was discovered

but what was it really?

It was just a calendar

because the people who lived here,

they were peasants

and they needed to know

when the solstices ended

so they could plant

their seeds and things.

There's nothing weird about it,

it's a sort of clock.

Everybody's going nuts

over this orange ray of light...

Yeah, it's a phenomenon

but that's not the point.

This is a high place

since prehistoric times.

Every man looks to the heavens

in search of God.

You only have to look at

the starry landscape above.

People have always gathered here

because it's a high point,

it's a place full of energy

and submitted

to telluric forces and that's it.

There's every chance of

meeting outsiders

here whose vision and way of thinking

is similar to that of the inhabitants of Montségur.

We're here to see the sunrise tomorrow morning

and everything has been thought out,

everyone will see it...

The sun aligns,

it lights up...

The ultimate goal is

to release our souls trapped

in our material bodies

living in this world of Satan and

ascend towards the kingdom of our Father

of which we were born.

An old Cathar prophecy announces

that after a period of 700 years,

the laurel will turn green again

and the old ways return.

When we come to Montségur today,

in the 21st century,

we're struck by

the magic of this place.

FABRICE CHAMBON - archeologist

- There's the landscape,

and this mountain dominating

the forests facing the Pyrénées

and where sometimes birds of prey fly over.

The feeling here

is that of being out of time.

RICHARD PIGELET - curator

- The mountain of Montségur

is a very particular place.

Whichever side

you observe it from,

you see this emerging peak

and you feel a strong magnetic pull.

Just from looking at it,

you can feel this strong natural magnetism

coming off of Montségur.

There's the history of this region,

the tragedy that took place

Much can be said about

the treasure or the stake...

But you never leave this place

as you came.

To a lot of people,

Montségur is a solar temple.

To others,

it was a temple of worship to the Cathars.

And others still,

by touching the stones of the castle,

try to communicate

with the memory of the rocks.

Some, in a more mundane way,

come to Montségur to meditate.

And a lot has been said about Montségur

Some even said it had

a relation with extraterrestrials.

This place is a site of pilgrimage

that attracts more and more people,

I think it's because they

wonder about Catharism

and its still remaining mysteries.

It's on a spiritual level.

I think they're looking for understanding.

Montségur is a place of initiation.

to their past, to their future

and to their present.

They identify with

the history of the Cathars,

a history worthy of

a novel or a movie.

You get the feeling

that everything was predestined.

You can feel people

searching for something

inside themselves,

as if this place called

for instrospection of the self.

The height of the mountain

symbolizes the union

of heaven and earth.

As in all civilizations, it's the

dwelling place of the gods.

It's where man rises up,

where he has the possibility

to rise toward God.

As you can see,

this place is no simple castle.

It's not just an historical site.

We're in a place that holds a lot of depth

and importance to many people.

AIMEE COUQUET - inhabitant of Montségur

Many people hold magical rituals up there.

Sects still come here to

practice magical rites.

SCARLETT AMARIS - author & esoteric researcher

We know that the Cathars

- and this is very innovative -

did not discriminate between women and men.

There's a woman from here

who's very famous,

she was the sister of the Count of Foix

and her name was Esclarmonde

Ever since she was a child,

she was surrounded

by poets, troubadours and musicians

so she was very gifted, very intelligent.

When the troubadours

sang about Esclarmonde,

they praised the beauty of this woman

but not just her physical beauty,

her inner beauty as well.

She allowed the fortification of Montségur

so as to be able to receive the Cathars

fleeing from the Inquisition at the time.

When the Northern Crusaders arrived

in Languedoc, arms in hand,

they were very surprised

by the freedom women had here.

They were astonished to see

women commanding men.

Countesses of Comminges commandeering their

troops.

There were women,

as in Montségur, who took up arms.

They were like Occitan

Joan of Arcs.

Esclarmonde died in 1240

and didn't witness the fall of Montségur.

What's interesting about Catharism

is the great role played by women.

One might say that

without the Cathar women,

catharism wouldn't have scared

the Roman church so much.

One might extrapolate even further.

Maybe the crusades

never would've existed.

It was the women who really shook

the Roman church in its beliefs.

Beyond that,

it's interesting to note

that when prehistoric people depicted

human beings, they were always women.

The most beautiful examples

of ancient findings

were discovered by archaeologists

deep in the caves of the Pyrenees

and they're called

“Mother Goddesses”.

They're small statuettes

and form the first known traces

of art created by humanity.

Today, even in novels, when Cathar women

and Esclarmonde are mentioned,

it's obviously a direct reference

to the worship of womanhood

that still exists

in the Pyrénées today.

Like I said, the castle of Montségur

is the grail itself.

It holds the keys to the architecture

and the network

in place since prehistoric times.

THE DEVIL'S CHAIR - RENNES-LES-BAINS

We don't know why there's a pentacle,

why there's a hexagram...

In fact, nobody really knows.

Those are astronomical markers

for certain periods of time...

that coincide with...

the places built on telluric

and cosmic landmarks.

THE CIRCLES SPRING

It's the heritage.

In that sense, it is the grail.

The Grail isn't hidden somewhere. It's not about

blowing up Montségur in order to find it.

The grail is the castle itself.

So, if you have some time

on your hands

and you don't know what to do,

you can take a map

and trace lines accordingly

and see what turns up.

So, Hook a map

of the surroundings and the castle...

And I thought to myself, if there's

something to be found,

it must be accessible for everyone,

more or less,

by easy means.

Not everybody's a freemason

of the 33rd degree and carries knowledge

of all the arcana of sacred geometry.

And my first thought was Rennes-le-Chéteau,

Rennes-les-Bains.

So I said to myself that I'd

trace a circle, just out of curiosity...

I took the church of Rennes-le-Chéteau

and put my compass here, hop,

The church of Rennes-les-Bains, toc

We try to make it somewhat precise,

since we're going at it...

And I traced the circle, simply enough.

This is when I realized

that the circle...

was connecting

with Campagne-les-Bains

to the ancient Templar fortress

and the church...

I traced the line and...

The first evident line that stuck out was

the radius connecting

Rennes-le-Chéteau / Rennes-les-Bains

And so I traced...

And I thought to myself, well, these things

have stumbled upon themselves nicely.

I then pursued from Rennes-les-Bains, hop...

and kept the same radius...

Without changing it...

And I then traced what they call

the Vesica Pisces shape

in the construction lingo.

And now, we trace

from Rennes-les-Bains...

And I realized that churches of

Rennes-les-Bains and Bézu.

Were connected

on the same radius.

Well, hum, a whole new coincidence...

Four churches that connect

just by making one tracing like that...

Which made in turn, a composite

of two hexagrams...

with a slight offset, which allowed me

to draw a twelve-branch star.

Drawing this shape

led me to discover other points

and little by little,

that's how it developed.

And I realized that

in relation to my place...

URANIE'S PROPERTY

...on my property, there are landmarks

relating to the phases of

the solstice and the equinox...

So, I had my three axis seen from here

which were already included

in a figure because...

That's sort of the shrewdness...

If you begin this personal research

because that's what it is...

Nobody else can make it for you...

Tracing...

You have to do it on your own... to see.

Already, when we trace,

we find things we can't explain!

And we realize that these

shapes are alive.

They're active.

They act on the spirit.

There's always a moment when

something will happen,

that'll lead you to discover a new figure

made by mistake.

And I've made lots of mistakes.

And found lots of things

by making errors in my angles...

I would be tracing one figure

and end up drawing another!

So yeah, some things

happen on their own

because this site remains active.

RENNES-LE-CHATEAU - SUMMER 2012

(Latin) This place is to be feared, this is

the house of God and the Gate to Heaven.

CHURCH OF THE HOLY MARY-MAGDALENE

The church is dedicated to Mary Magdalene

who is another manifestation of the Goddess.

The first ray of sun on the 17th of January

illuminates the edifice.

In the nineteenth century,

Abbé Bérenger Saunière

allegedly uncovered a fabulous treasure

that made him immensely wealthy.

He built this place

following an occult concept

and took the secret to his grave.

This mystery fed

a prosperous commercial industry

ranging from "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail"

to the "DaVinci Code".

ALAIN X - Stone Mason

-'Rennes-le-Chéteau is a place...

that can be as beneficial

as negative.

ALEX PAINCO - Mayor of Rennes-le-Chateau

-Rennes-le-Chéteau is an old village,

an historical village

and it has changed a lot

since the arrival of

Abbé Saunière in 1885.

Abbé Saunière has built

a lot of edifices here

and that's where the mystery of

Rennes-le-Chéteau springs from.

Rennes-le-Chateau is a place of initiation.

Not everybody

can just go into this.

The elders knew

that Hell had seven gates.

Each one has a guardian

worse than the other.

It's only by passing

through these gates

that we can escape the hell

of the material world.

Or bring heaven

down to earth.

ARTUR SALA - physicist

And the horror movies?

The Fulci films? The Italian horror films?

Yeah. That's what opened the door for me.

The gates of Hell?

Yes.

Rennes-le-Chéteau is...

It's special...

It's a place where you can

either lose your soul or rise.

It's... it's a labyrinth like the ones

that exist in old cathedrals,

built by our ancestors...

With hidden pits and traps...

We get a lot of tourists here,

about 120,000 each year.

For such a small village

with eighteen year-round inhabitants,

ten shops is a lot.

So we can say tourism is what makes

Rennes-le-Chéteau live.

Rennes-le-Chéteau is like a spiderweb

with a spider in the middle.

It's gigantic but invisible

at the same time.

And the people who come here

should know that they're like flies.

If they get caught in the web,

well... They get eaten.

Thanks to Abbé Saunière,

the mystery lives on.

Researchers come here,

several movies have been

made about this place...

...Numerous books have been

written, about 600 until now.

Rennes-le-Chéteau has

become internationally known,

since Abbé Saunière came here.

When you set out in your path of initiation,

when you travel around France...

...It's up to you not to stumble

and keep walking on the right path

to become what is known

as a "companion".

If you're not capable

of being a companion,

if you can't get rid of...

If y0u're just bait and y0u're incapable

of seeing the apprentice side of things,

You can't be a companion.

You're not part of the companionship

in Rennes-le-Chéteau,

it's as simple as that.

For the people to understand.

It comes from ancient times,

it's from a lost world

of gates and...

For the people to understand.

I mean...

For the people who come here,

the ones seeking something,

it's up to them not to get lost.

That's all I have to say.

If some people lose themselves

here in Rennes-le-Chéteau,

others come to seek answers.

That was the case

of François Mitterrand

who came here a few days

before the election

on a very mysterious visit.

As for Mitterand's visit

to Rennes-le-Chéteau,

ANDRE GALLAUD - Journalist

-it didn't go exactly the way it's described

in the books or

the movies made about it.

It happened during

the presidential campaign

that took place in the

month of May, 1981.

Mitterrand was asked

to come to Couiza

to present himself to the people here.

As tradition has it,

a great dinner was held

at the village hall.

After the dinner was over,

president Robert Capdeville

turns to Mitterrand and

asks him if all is well

and Mitterand responds in form...

Capdeville then says

“Listen, if it's all right with you

and in order to properly

digest this excellent meal,

I would like to show you a site

that you’ll remember.

Instead of your usual walk,

I'll take you up

to Rennes-le-Chéteau...

So they went up

to Rennes-le-Chéteau,

They were welcomed by

the departmental councilor and the mayor.

Mitterrand then discovered this site

and was amazed by the view

and What the Abbé had built,

but there was never any question

about a treasure or anything like that.

After walking around a bit, Mitterrand

wanted to see the Magdala Tower.

So we came up here and he

climbed to the top of the Tower

and he was...

He was completely

in awe with the view.

That was that.

That was the way Mitterrand's

visit to the department of Aude,

Couiza and

Rennes-le-Chéteau went.

It all happened very simply,

it was mostly a digestive walk.

As history has it,

something happened here a few years back.

The mirror downstairs

is not the original one.

What happened was

that several youngsters

came up here,

one of which was the owner's daughter.

They looked into the mirror

and saw the Devil.

They were scared

out of their wits.

And they ended up at my place.

The only time they ever came here...!

They told me they'd seen

the Devil in the mirror.

And it reminded me

of what one of the early

researchers told me,

a guy named Jean Pelé.

He said he knew about formulas

to call up the Devil in mirrors.

He had taught this formula

to certain people

and now regretted it because

they'd abused it.

And what probably happened back then,

I think that the people who lived here...

...used those formulas

and opened a gate, toc,

through the mirror...

and saw the Devil.

But they weren't prepared for it.

And I'm the one who broke

that mirror when I came here

in the early nineties...

...to do a sort of purification...

Because it was so loaded that

something had to be done.

And this mirror had

an importance in history.

I don't really know

the bottom of the story,

what happened then...

But point being, I broke it!

And so I closed the door for this devil.

When you dine with the Devil,

you better have a big spoon

otherwise...

you don't eat.

And since this place is a sort

of spider web, you know,

it's like a spider...

This is sort of the center where impulses

are received from various places...

URANIE'S HOUSE

...from as far away as England

or maybe even further...

...it's the whole network that's used...

And over the course of history in

Rennes-le-Chéteau and the area of La Coume...

URANIE'S CAT

I can say that there

have been lots of assaults...

...a lot of things done to destroy...

this place, the community

and the people who live here.

I've made all this over time and it's...

Well, there's no artistic purpose

in exhibiting works with a "vision"...!

The ultimate goal is

to balance the energies

so all this has been

made little by little,

during certain periods,

moments, certain phases...

...over time.

It has a therapeutic purpose.

Magico-therapy.

To balance energies

and avoid taking too much in.

They're like shields.

URANIE'S NEIGHBOR - corporate CEO Jaap

Rameijer

JAAP'S HOUSE

JAAP'S CAT

JAAP'S VIDEO - LES LABADOUS - SUMMER 2012

It's...

To really understand Rennes-le-Chéteau

one must come here,

look around...

And then one must check out a map.

If you have

Rennes-les-Bains here...

Rennes-le-Chéteau there...

And draw the equilateral triangle...

Then you only have to look out

the window and see what there is.

If you look hard enough,

you can see a farm

called Le Carla.

If we divide this in half...

And take the bisector...

Le Carla is at this precise spot.

It's a very particular geometric shape

If you look at the bottom of those rocks...

Just at the edge of the field,

there's a tiny red spot.

All that's needed is a little

bit of phonetic Cabala

to make an anagram of Carla

So, toc, what does Sauniere show us?

The Grail.

It's a nice gift, isn't it?

And then I discovered...

...that a shape appears here...

...of a woman's head...

...right in the axis of

the rising sun and

leading straight

to Le Carla.

Le Carla can be seen

from the Magdala Tower.

Let's see what Saunière

might have wanted to tell us

if it had any such intentions...

It's the alignment of this ramp knob

with the middle of the window, the

church window that has been placed here...

And if we align the two...

We end up on the cave of Mary Magdalene.

It used to be the Fournet Cave but

it has been renamed to Mary Magdalene.

I think it used to be

an ancient celtic or druidic site,

where certain initiations

or rituals took place...

There's all this symbolism

of fecundity,

death and rebirth

related to caves.

And we can see on the church's altar

a painting of Mary Magdalene in the cave...

It's always been a place where

groups of people

come to do rituals... It's always active.

There seems to be a certain

specificity to this place

in that it has this sort

of incubating role...

in the practices of certain occult groups

surrounding the culture of

succubi and incubi and other spirits...

These people are trying to get

women to copulate with the incubi

in order to give birth

to fantastical creatures.

Legend has it that Mérovée,

the first Merovingian king,

was the son of a witch

and a succubus.

Just like Merlin the enchanter.

So there's a persistent underlying

base in Rennes-le-Chéteau

where there's a lot of ceremonials

and sexual rituals that are carried out

in order to incarnate spirits

that are believed to be superior.

I hope the village

will stay as it is, pretty and peaceful,

and keep attracting

tourists, but normal ones.

I've had a lot of

administrative problems

such as obtaining

a building permit...

...of conformity...

Right now, I'm living here

as an outlaw since my house isn't in

accordance with sanitary regulations.

Three years ago, we surprised several

people digging beneath the cemetary.

They were caught in time.

I receive mail from people telling me

that Jesus is no longer buried here,

but is buried in Bayonne.

People who believe that the

body of Jesus is in the church

or that they've uncovered

the treasure...

-- people who believe that Mary Magdalene

is buried beneath the village --...

It took me twelve years,

twelve years and three internments...

...to get the whole property back.

Plus the problems... The worries...

Everything you can imagine...

...all the things that happen

when the powers that be

have decided to

destroy your life.

Things like isolation...

Total isolation, separation

from friends and family...

No more means,

no car, nothing...

Loss of income, the maximum in other words.

We've also had Jesus himself

stop by at the mayor's office,

some guy

claiming to be Jesus.

It's fabulous.

I filed a complaint...

They said I was right.

And then they measured

up the terrain

and to tell me I was right,

they went toc, and reclaimed some of it!

So, yeah. It's that type of

administrative harassment...

But we can't say they did it on purpose.

I don't know.

We can say it's a mistake, at least, that's

what they told me after twelve years.

“We're sorry, we made a mistake”.

They still confined me three times

to a mental hospital

with chemical treatment.

That's not nothing.

It's not an easy situation.

I still have treatments with a psychiatrist.

It's three months in a hospital.

And then it's three months of therapy...

...and injections of psychotropic substances.

In my case it was Aldol.

Generally, I just turn them back nicely

by saying that Rennes-le-Chateau

wants to remain a peaceful place...

So that these types of people

can just go away and not stay here.

Then there were the direct threats

on my life, death threats. Obvious ones.

And several misguided attempts

to eliminate me.

Physically.

There are quite a few people

who are a little “special”,

one might say..

But they're mostly

in Bugarach

To me, Rennes-le-Chéteau

was the precursor

to the Bugarach phenomenon.

BUGARACH - SUMMER 2012

JEAN-PIERRE DELORD - mayor of Bugarach

- We're all a little weird...

People come here

with their own beliefs...

This is a democracy where people are free

to think and believe as they want.

I have no problem with people

coming here on a pilgrimage

or searching for something else.

My problem is if having too many of

them here at once.

36 years as the mayor.

It's a job like any other.

It's like being the chief tribesman.

But it's okay.

Two hundred people to care for...

A superb countryside and...

that!

Fantastic!

That mountain is particular.

We can already see it by its shape

and placement.

It's particular because

geologically speaking,

all the layers are reversed.

If you consult a compass...

there's a definite discrepancy. There must

be a very large mass of iron underneath.

I tell everybody to

"Get up there and you'll see,

you’ll come down different”.

Some never get fully back

down, they stay perched up there!

The truth is that when

I heard about this event,

I notified the prefectoral authorities so

they'd take an interest in the phenomena.

In turn, they notified MIVILUDES, the government

department that monitors cult activity

and which have investigated

the three regional divisions around here.

They indeed thought there was

something going on

and following that discovery, the prefect

decided to put this place under surveillance.

Maybe they'll call in the military.

There's always that possibility.

JEROME VIGUIER - mountain guide

- The mayor's office and the mayor in particular

is very down to earth.

So he's probably afraid

that people are going to climb

the mountain of Bugarach

and throw themselves

into a vortex or portal.

When the month of December is over,

they'll just find another date to hold on to.

They'll all look like idiots.

That's what I believe.

It's all bogus stuff.

It's a complete delirium.

I still have my feet firmly planted

on the ground, I'm not gone yet!

If I'd wanted to set

all this up myself...

Already, with an advertising agency,

it would've cost me a fortune.

It probably wouldn't have

had the same impact.

I'm completely baffled...

by the proportions

this fad has taken.

Of course, these stories about the end

of the world periodically resurface.

We humans are haunted

by the demise of our planet.

I think the real problem

lies therein.

One night, it must've

been around 2 a.m.

I was spending the night

in a cave with friends...

Just near its entrance.

And around 2 a.m.,

I woke up for no reason.

And I saw this huge

white light outside.

It filled up the whole

entrance to the cave

which must've been...

30-50 feet wide.

I didn't have the presence of mind

to get up and check it out.

The next morning,

I talked it over with my friends

and one of them said

he'd seen the same thing.

Like me, he didn't get up

to see what was going on but...

A great white light...

On a moonless night.

We were far from the road

so it couldn't have been car lights.

The mystery remains.

The story stems from a character who lived

- he's passed on, now -

he lived near the "Source Salée" domain

on the edge of the village...

He claimed to hear

humming coming from a cave

and believed the sound was coming from

an underground garage where

they repaired flying saucers, etc...

The myth started from this.

It got in print in UFO magazines

and then the story

came back on the internet, etc, etc.

A trekker took this picture

in Montferrier in 1976...

It shows a flying saucer that

supposedly appeared

in the sky one morning.

The picture has never been

authenticated by professionals

so nobody knows

whether it's fake or not.

The person whose idea it was

to print a postcard

representing a flying saucer

is a photographer

who lives one village over.

He sold it to us.

There's another postcard with a small

blue-green creature next to the peak

who's obviously

an extraterrestrial.

Some people firmly believe that Montségur

is an extraterrestrial landing base.

There was this group who came in

with all sorts of electronic equipment

and who set up antennaes

all over the mountain.

So l went up to them

to ask what was going on...

They told me they were communicating with

extraterrestrials who were living inside the mountain.

I have a lot of friends who are

very much in touch with Nature...

They see faeries, gnomes and goblins

in Bugarach. All sorts of phenomena.

You pass through a gate

where you see

all things material

such as houses, standing stones,

dolmens, trees, hills, mountains, earth...

That's what you see.

And then, there's another gate

where you hear voices,

sounds of horses,

but you can't

communicate with them.

It's as if they don't see you at all.

All the places like that,

like in Montségur, are doors.

There are certain periods of

the year when those energies

are more active than at others...

It's a sort of...

it's a celestial gate...

and at the same time infernal.

Because it's also a gateway to Hell.

If you invoke the Devil

here, no problem,

he'll show up and

ask you what you want.

In general, when

passing through a gate,

there's a mix of the past,

the present and the future.

Let's say that,

a few years back,

I had an intense experience

about Montségur.

I came across a book

about the Cathars

which I'd never

heard about before.

When I looked at the cover picture

of Montségur, I had a revelation.

I think I may have lived

a previous life here.

The first time I went to Montségur,

I remembered who I was...

I don't know...

They say that before you die, all

the important things in your life

flash before your eyes...

I experienced that but

the other way around. In fact...

I was Arpaïx de Péreille,

one of Raymond de Péreille's daughters.

He was co-lord of Montségur.

My role was very important.

But I didn't end up

at the stake with the others.

We ran off... in the direction

of the mountains.

And we were arrested there by our own men.

I don't know the reason why.

It was very hard for me

because I ran away with my husband

and he had our child in his arms.

It was a little boy but I don't know

exactly how old he was.

And we were separated at that point.

I spent the rest of my life

in a prison in Carcassonne.

This is a place I need to

return to regularly

to renew myself.

I feel at home here.

Not so long ago, about

three or fours years back,

I realized that I'd lived

several past lives.

During an akashic lecture,

it was explained to me that

I'd lived a very important one in the

Middle Ages and it had made a mark on me.

Which explains the problems

of my present life.

So I delved into this...

...and I realized that

everybody has had several lives

filled with different experiences

- good and bad -

and that one needs

to find a balance between the two

in order to become

an accomplished soul

and no longer have the need

to reincarnate.

Maybe that's the reason I chose

medieval names for my children.

I didn't yet know

about this past life,

I didn't feel anything towards reincarnation.

I didn't even understand it.

The names I'd chosen

for my children were

Aliénor, Margaux,

Childéric and Alaric

and I know now that it was no coincidence.

I've always been attracted to the Middle Ages.

So evidently, there's a problem with those who mistake

their desires for reality or their dreams for reality.

Still, it's kind of amusing

that during the course

of one year,

four different Raymond de Péreilles

stop by the museum of Montségur

to introduce themselves...

If all the people pretending

to have been reincarnated

were accounted for,

I think the number of Cathars

burned at the stake

would greatly supersede 225. The number

would be closer to the thousands.

I think we're all destined

to find each other.

I've met people in Lavalanet

or in other places who've had

the same experience as me.

- Even on Facebook -

So it's more or less of a coincidence...

JAAP'S VISION OF THE MAGDALENE

I put this clock here

to be sure of what time it is...

Because we're not in the real time.

If you check your watch,

it's probably around 2 p.m.,

maybe a little more?

A little later,

2230 p.m.?

And in fact, there's a two hour gap here

so we live on fake time.

So here's our famous pentagram.

You just have to open

your heart and soul.

The key is the heart.

That's where the grail is.

Since our souls are locked

in this world of flesh

it is our destiny to rise and return

to the Father of all good souls.

That's it. Have a nice journey home...

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