Dogging Tales (2013) - full transcript

This programme contains strong

language, scenes of nudity

and some scenes of a sexual nature.

RHYTHMIC MUSIC WITH REPETITIVE

BREATHING

(MAN) Oh, yes! Oh, yes! Oh, yes!

Oh, yes!

Oh, yes! Oh, yes! Oh... Oh, yes! Oh!

Oh, yes! Oh, sh...

So, dogging, tell me

where it came from?

I'm not exactly sure where it

came from, but I mean

I heard about it going back

sort of 20-odd years ago, you know.

Um, when I was in Epping Forest,

I'd be up there with a girlfriend,

and, er, I was having sex in the

car,

and the next thing I know there

was like half a dozen blokes

standing round the car,

and I thought, like,

"Shit? What's this?"

And I jumped out the car

and I said to them, like, you know,

"What's going on?"

And they said, "Oh, we're dogging,"

and I said, "Well, what's dogging?"

And they told me, and I thought,

"Ooh.

"Sounds all right." So it just

sort of went on from there.

Did you carry on having

sex with the girl?

I did, yeah.

There was two actually in there,

two girls in the car.

The ex-wife didn't like it,

you know. I don't know why.

See, dogging isn't

just about everybody going out

and having sex together, you know,

you get a lot of voyeurs who like to

just to watch and have a wank.

They can have a wank and, you know,

and do whatever.

How does that make you feel?

I weren't really paying much

attention to them, I just sort of...

if I'm playing on me own I just

close me eyes and ignore them,

or if me and Les

are doing anything I just

sort of look in the opposite

direction.

Did you enjoy the sex?

Not with my ex. Didn't enjoy it all.

But I enjoy it a lot with Les.

What's dogging done for you?

That's helped

boost my confidence as well.

You would never talk to anybody,

you know, she used to be shy,

and I mean shy.

Her personality now is totally

changed, and I think that's

due to the fact that the last three

years we've been going dogging.

When I go out dogging it's

more about me gaining back

all the control that I never did

have in my old relationship.

I like wearing make-up

because it makes me

feel like a total different person.

It's a way of me

covering up my past.

The bad times.

Old relationships.

Once I've got my make-up on, I don't

see the cracks any more.

I see a prettier me

rather than just a plain me.

And I see a total different person.

AEROSOL SPRAY

Lynx?

Yep, got to be Lynx.

Which one?

Er...Lynx...

I ain't got me glasses on,

what does that say, Sue?

Final Edition.

Yeah, it's the black one.

Can't beat it.

That and Joop.

Brilliant.

ENGINE STARTS

My kids now, they know what we do.

I haven't kept nothing from them,

they know we go out dogging.

What do you think people

think of doggers?

Some people hate us,

but we're not interfering with them.

We try to keep out of people's way,

you know,

if we want to do it, we do it.

We don't want to live a boring life.

People who sit there

and, "Oh, yeah, them doggers,"

and all that crap, and yet

behind closed doors they're all

sitting there watching porns

and stuff like that.

We don't go in for watching porn

films, they're boring,

you know, it's either the real

thing or nothing.

(LAUGHS)

Right, this is a little place

we know.

# Dum-de-dum-de-dum dum-de-dum. #

Come on.

'You can never predict what'll happen

when you go dogging, you know?

'You never know what happens

when you go into the woods.'

BIRD CALLS

MENACING MUSIC PLAYS

CACOPHONY OF ANIMAL AND BIRD CALLS

It's going to be fun, this is,

I tell you.

Move your dress.

'Yeah, when we go out dogging,

when blokes are watching and that,

'you know, I just feel

good in myself that I'm there

'and, I suppose, supplying

that bit of entertainment.'

'I DJed for 35 years,

so I love entertaining people,

'and, you know, you're putting on,

like, a little show.'

'I just feel that little bit

more important.'

Does it get addictive?

This lifestyle?

Well, yeah,

cos I have sex with no strings.

If you're going somewhere you can

get free sex that don't cost

you nothing, you never got

to see the person again,

so it don't matter whether

you do a good job or a bad job.

What could be better? Obviously

that's going to be addictive.

Welcome to my home,

five or six days a week.

(INTERVIEWER) Is it comfy?

Yeah, you make it as comfy as you

want. I mean, the bed is comfy.

I mean, I would probably sleep

better in here than what

I do in a proper bed.

So what do you do in here?

I'm parking up for the night

and going to go dogging.

And you drive a lorry as a living?

Yeah.

You know, on the road five

and six days a week,

covering the whole country.

Dogging in as many

places as I can find.

It's a lonely job.

Out on the road every day.

Out on the road on your own.

So when you park up

in a dogging site,

there's always somebody to talk to.

Most of the people in

the haulage company business

know about dogging,

cos originally dogging was

started with couples

and lorry drivers.

And this is one of the perks

of being a lorry driver.

What percentage of

lorry drivers are into dogging?

Going by the amount of lorry drivers

I know, I would say 70%.

Do you feel like you're

hunting for something?

Yeah, the furry triangle.

The furry triangle?

Yeah.

Obviously you go and try and have...

If you're in a dogging site,

obviously you want to try

and have fun with the females.

There's always females about,

wanting sex.

Some nights you'll sit around

and you won't see a female

and another night, there'll

be five or six females about.

Do you have a family?

No.

Would you like a family?

No.

Isn't it nice to be in love?

What is love?

Sharing something with somebody,

more than just sex?

Personally, I prefer to be

as I am doing the job.

That way, you're not hurting nobody

and you can't get hurt yourself.

Have you been hurt before?

No, I wouldn't say hurt. I've spent

a lot of money in relationships.

Most men,

when they sit and work it out,

they have to pay for sex regardless.

This way you don't pay for it.

MOANING

I like to think that

my wife is desirable.

I'm extremely proud

of the way she looks.

And how long have you been

with John?

15 years.

Married?

Yes.

Are you quite highly sexed?

Like in your normal life?

Yeah.

Yeah. I'd say yeah.

Yeah.

Well, up until, say,

four or five years ago,

we were having sex

every single night.

Yeah, that's not why

we come down here

because we haven't got no

sex life at home. Is it?

No. Certainly not.

I think when we first

started coming up here,

we'd pick one or two

blokes to go with.

Well, I like quite a few blokes

to come up here with us.

I like one after another.

I just come down here, I suppose, to

get through as many blokes as I can.

'I don't want them to care about me.

I don't want them to care about me,

'I just want them to like what

they're looking at, fuck me and go.'

Oh, yeah.

Oh! Oh! Oh!

And the quicker they come,

the better.

Cos they haven't come down here to

make love to someone for hours.

They just want to come

and they just want to go.

Do you pair get up here often?

Been quite a few times

this year, yeah.

This year, yeah.

I like to talk to the blokes

first for a little while.

Just to get an idea of

what they're like.

Just to get a gist of what

they're like.

Once it's in you and you get...

It's like a drug, though.

I do find it...

very moreish.

I've met people

from all walks of life.

I've met undertakers,

I've met vicars, solicitors...

weirdoes, all sorts.

So you get quite different

types of men, do you?

Yes.

Oh, you get a very broad spectrum

of people down here, believe me.

Right from the nice people to

just complete idiots.

You do get people go down there

that think if a woman's down there,

it is just a free-for-all -

you can do what you want cos

that's what they're down there for -

which certainly isn't the case.

There are guidelines and things that

you have to adhere to. You've got

to remember it's still my wife at

the end of the day and you can't be

taking liberties just cos they're

down there for having sex with men.

It doesn't mean that you can just

roll up and just do what you want.

And who makes the rules?

Me.

Do you feel scared that you're

sort of alone in the woods

with your wife and eight men?

Never.

No, I don't either.

No.

I think the more blokes

there is, the safer I feel.

It's a very strange situation.

I think you've got to be quite

confident, I think, of yourself,

to be able to have sex with a woman

in front of an audience,

so to speak.

Do you like this kind of

animalistic nature of dogging?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, I do.

(YAWNS)

(INTERVIEWER) What were

you watching on TV?

It's the X Factor at the minute.

But we haven't been watching it,

we haven't had time.

Why not?

Too busy.

I work in a factory full time.

I work seven days a week,

12 hour days.

When I get home from work,

I'm really tired.

What's got you into dogging?

Just to try something different.

Yeah, just to try something different

and see if we can have some fun

in meeting people

and making friends, really.

And how long have you been

dogging for?

Four weeks now.

Has it been that long?

I thought it'd been

about three weeks.

Three weeks, yeah.

Toffee...

What have you got?

Toffees.

We just drove around for a bit,

went down this quiet path

and then we just pulled up

and we went into the woods

and played with each other.

It was quite good,

actually, quite exciting.

So you're not having sex?

We've tried...

We've tried but we kept getting

disturbed every time we started.

The people kept going past

and it kept putting me off,

because I know it's a dogging area

and people are going

to be going past and watching,

but I think because it was our first

time up there it just put me off,

people going past, even though

I know they would be going past.

And why've you started?

Why have you felt the need

to start dogging?

It was just, I think I got bored

of just being with him,

so I thought I'd try cheating,

it just happened

to get out of control, really.

I was just cheating

with any random person

that would show me the attention.

And I felt guilty each time I did

it, so I had to tell him.

It's not been easy,

it's not been easy at all.

But because I love her,

I've stood by her.

And I want to make a go of it.

I want to be with her.

I think that's the reason

why he proposed we go dogging.

Yeah, I thought we'd go and do it

as a last resort

to try and spice things up

between us as well.

I think it can work for both of us.

I think it's very exciting.

(YAWNS)

(RESIDENT) So this is it.

This is the dreaded lane.

They refer to it

as the dogger's lane.

Well, this land belongs

to The Three Squirrels,

who apparently have told the police

they will fence it off,

but whether they will or not,

I don't know.

(INTERVIEWER) So the cars

would meet here?

Yeah, they'd actually

cut the trees back.

Who'd cut the trees back?

The doggers themselves, yeah.

(LAUGHS) They made

their own little space.

In the woods?

In the woods and at the bottom,

so that they could park their cars.

It's sometimes 16 cars,

that kind of thing, up here.

Every day of the week, I mean,

seven days a week, it never stopped.

I mean, if you come in,

you'll see it.

I mean, it's like a city in here,

They've created

all the little roads.

You can see,

it's just a maze of paths

that they've created around here.

Here's one of

the little hides that they had.

If you went down there,

that was absolutely full of condoms,

full of pornography, knickers...

They dragged mattresses

and things like that up.

They'd created

almost like little rooms.

But it was up here the police said

that they had cut branches

into penis shapes

and were sitting on them,

sticking the tree branches

up their backsides.

They caught a guy

with a bag over his head.

He'd handcuffed himself to a tree,

absolutely nude,

and put a sign around his neck

inviting people to abuse him.

"All I ask is that you don't take

the bag off my head."

I mean, how bad can that be,

not even knowing who's abusing you?

I used to bring my two girls,

who were really young,

we used to bring them

into the woods here,

and of course,

we'd made all little stories up

about fairies living in the trees

and things, you know,

like, little kids love all that.

And then you watch them grow up

with that innocence.

And then you're walking down one day

and all of a sudden,

"Daddy, there's a man there

with no clothes on," you know,

and it's like, "Oh, holy moly!"

You know, somebody said to me

it's that Age of Aquarius love-in.

It's that mental picture

that people have

of people sort of skipping

through the tulips, you know,

in flimsy summer dresses

and then stopping for a quickie,

whereas you've seen the reality

of it, it's nothing like that.

So why did you move down here?

Well, we moved because

of the countryside.

We wanted to live

in the countryside.

We both spent our lives

working in the city.

We didn't expect this.

You don't get this

in central London,

so to get it here in the middle

of the countryside, real bad shock.

What's it like

having your wood back?

It's great.

And this is what it should be

like, you know?

This is what it's for.

It's a nature reserve.

The doggers haven't stopped,

they've just moved

to a different area?

Well, we think that's what happened.

We don't see them, so you'd

have to guess that, yeah,

they've just moved on

somewhere else now.

Some other poor sods

will have to put up with it.

(MOANING)

(MOANING CONTINUES)

How many women and men are going

to sit and watch this programme

and go, "Oh, I wish I could do that"?

I bet there's loads

of people that do,

I bet there's loads of women

that dream about, you know,

having two men or three men

or however many,

but wouldn't dare mention it

to their husband.

While Susie's having sex,

what are you doing, John?

Watching, normally.

I enjoy watching her

having sex, I must admit.

I like it when there's, like,

a small group of blokes

and they're just taking it in turns

on her. I find that really arousing.

I don't know, but a lot of

the blokes have said that

they find you intimidating...

..because of the way you look.

They see you and sort of think,

"Oh, I wouldn't stand a chance of

going with her, cos she looks..."

Yeah, which I've told 'em, they've

only got to come up and talk to me.

Yeah.

And they'll find out what I'm like.

Yeah.

Sometimes when you go with a bloke

they can't get a hard on,

and I do feel a bit disappointed.

I think there's something wrong

with how the way I look then.

I've never felt secure in myself,

ever, ever, have I?

Which is absolutely astounding.

I pull myself to bits all the time.

Where does that come from?

From years of being anorexic

when I was younger.

Anorexia fucks your mind up.

Big time. It does.

I wanted to die.

When I ate, I could feel

the fat going on my body

and I just had to go and be sick.

I couldn't leave it in my body.

It's awful, it's horrible.

If anybody asked us

to go out for a meal,

I would be anxious, sweating...

I was frightened,

frightened that I had to eat.

You'll never be happy

with the way you look.

I'll never be happy with my body,

ever be happy with my body.

Ever.

But then it makes me feel better

when I go out and I get compliments

and blokes say it looks nice,

and so that makes me feel better.

I'm on a high,

it makes me feel good,

it makes me feel nice about myself.

For a little while.

And what scares you in life?

I think getting old scares me.

I think getting old

and not looking nice.

Worrying that John's not going to

find me attractive any more.

That's what scares me.

I am frightened of that.

Hm. Silly.

If you do something different or

you have something that's different,

people will either ostracise you

or treat you differently,

and all I ever wanted to do was

to be treated like everybody else.

I'm a mum, that's what I have to do,

and even though my children have

special needs, I just cope with it.

All three of them have now been

diagnosed with various conditions,

so that's quite hard.

I felt alone for a long while.

When I get dressed up

and go out and play,

I leave all that at home

and I become me.

I'm not Mum, I'm not

someone's other half.

I am me, and I suppose

in a way that's a release.

I leave all that behind.

I find it hard to think

of myself as being sexy

because I'm a big girl,

always been big.

I just didn't class myself as

being attractive to other men.

I suppose it's self-confidence

and self-esteem.

I never felt part of the in crowd,

I was always on the outside,

and I just, I don't know,

I just never felt happy with myself.

But, as I'm getting dressed...

..I can see this sexy,

voluptuous, confident woman

who is ready to go and

have sex with a stranger.

And, you know, they can't wait

to get their hands on me.

That is a hell of an ego boost.

My husband will be downstairs

in the living room.

He knows exactly what I'm doing,

and I always tell him that

I love him before I go out the door,

because I do.

And then thinking about coming home,

even at that point

I can't wait to get home

because I want to get home

and get my hands on him,

because it is,

it's like foreplay.

I enjoy it, but

the best bit is coming home

and knowing that he's

going to be waiting for me.

I think we're looking for

another woman for Terry.

We think if there

was another woman,

he can get his enjoyment

out of all the dogging.

It's always been a dream

of mine to have two women.

So, who's this?

It's Anne.

Yeah, I'm Anne.

How long have you guys

known each other?

About a week.

Only a week?

Yeah.

You guys have become friends?

Yeah, good friends.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Whilst Terry's been at work,

what have you two

been doing all day?

We've been watching TV and

having a laugh together.

Yeah. Nothing, you know...

We won't play without

Terry being here.

Yeah, really.

She's had a stroke of my tit

but that's about it.

I don't know.

Is that what you'd like to do, Anne?

I like to play,

yeah, definitely.

What playing do you like,

do you think?

I like everything, but I do really

like oral, you know what I mean?

Well, I've performed

oral on Terry

and I've sucked

Sarah's breasts.

Yeah.

How do you feel about this, Terry?

I'm fine with it.

Yeah?

Still learning, obviously.

We're still trying new things.

You've got two women now.

Yeah.

(LAUGHS)

Every man's dream.

Definitely.

To be honest, we can't

really do, like,

a lot of things in Terry's car,

cos it's quite small.

And where's Terry

fit in with all this?

I'm the driver.

ENGINE REVS

And how are you, Terry?

You said you weren't very well.

No, I've had a sore throat.

I've been to the doctor's.

A bit croaky.

What did the doctor say was wrong?

Tonsillitis.

It's very bumpy.

Yeah.

Yeah!

Can you not go over the big bumps?

In the woods, anything can happen.

So where are we going?

Into the woods. Not too far.

Not too far, because

we don't want to get lost.

Shit, I can't see fuck all.

Neither can I.

I can now, cos

the light's...

Eurgh!

This part looks muddy.

No, it's dry.

That is fucking muddy as fuck.

Fucking hell. There you go.

Thank you. (LAUGHS)

I will lead the way.

Is this, like, marsh

or something we're on?

What do we do now, then? Terry?

What? You two can have a play.

Why just us?

Yeah, why just us?

No, Terry, let's have

a play with you.

All right, then.

Come on, then, Terry, get 'em down.

THEY LAUGH

If one of you's just going to...

Oh, fuck this.

Go on, Sarah.

Come on.

Awww.

You didn't take any Viagra

today, Terry, did you?

No.

Hopefully this coldness,

like, you know...?

Awww.

It is getting there. It takes time,

cos it's cold, innit?

Yeah.

I'll let you off.

I'll bet this is lovely,

Terry, isn't it?

Yeah, it's great.

It's great.

Do you see my tits?

Of course he can.

Ah, that's good.

THEY LAUGH

Shame there's not another guy here,

you know what I mean?

Yeah.

I think I need a bit of help.

Terry, do you want your dick sucked?

No.

No?

Yeah?

There you go.

That's it. Nice. More like it.

What's it like being out here, then?

Oh, it's good fun.

Great fun, yeah.

Why's that?

Just a thrill, isn't it,

and then you get to play as well,

so it's all good.

Exciting, really.

Ow!

Why do you choose to do this

outside and not in your home?

In the home, it's vanilla,

really, isn't it?

It's like we're young, you know...

We want to have some fun.

We want to have

some fun before we...

..get too old.

Yeah.

I think it's really good.

I think, obviously,

if we had more...

if we had another guy here,

you know what I mean?

I think it would have been great.

It's our second time in the woods

as well, so it's the second time.

Are you going to keep coming out

even though it gets colder?

I... Oh, yeah.

I'd like to see if

we can get it up here...

There's somebody coming.

Yeah, I can hear something.

Who is it?

I don't know, I don't know,

I don't know.

Looks like you've got

your new person to join in.

Sarah, I'm not comfortable

with this.

All right.

Not really.

Pardon?

He said he's not comfortable.

OK.

That's why it's not...

I think he doesn't like

people too close.

..sorry about that.

What do you want to do?

I'm too cold.

OK, we should just leave it, then.

Leave it, then.

Come on, then.

I just want to go home. Oh.

I'm sorry.

I didn't like that at all.

Yeah.

So how's the dogging been going?

Slowed down obviously

cos of the weather.

Down in Kent, it's never been

absolutely brilliant.

There's a lot of

police activity around,

and I think a lot of people

are staying away.

Have they been stopping it?

Yeah, yeah,

it's been stopping big time.

Say hello, Rocky.

Say hello.

It's padlocked in.

He can open this.

And you can see

where he's bent the metal.

Don't want him

killing the cat, do we?

(CHUCKLES)

Stop it! Stop it!

(SQUAWKS)

It's like if you were sitting

in here and I opened up that cage,

he wouldn't come to me,

he would fly straight over to you,

you'd put your arm out,

he will sit on your arm

and he will just sink his beak

straight into you.

No questions asked.

No, don't bite.

See, a lot of parrots,

they pick one person

and one person only.

And anybody else is a threat.

It's sort of like a mate

if you think about it, you know,

cos over the years and that,

they find a mate

and they stay together for life.

But, you know, we have

our little arguments and that,

but it's never, ever, ever about

who I shagged the night before.

I could drop dead tomorrow.

You know, I've seen it happen.

Um...I've seen me brother

fine one minute...

..and then, like, within six months,

cancer and dead.

You know? And I look at him

and I think, like, you know,

I just intend to have

as much fun as possible.

You know, at least when I do die,

I'll die with a smile on me face.

I mean Sue's 29, I'm 49,

my kids like her,

you know, they get on well.

How many kids do you have?

14 boys...

..twin girls,

a stepson and a stepdaughter.

18?

Yeah.

Hopefully 19 coming up.

Really?

Yeah. Game for one more

before I have the chop.

You know, other than that,

I'd have to be using condoms,

and, like, condoms just like...

..don't, er...don't work for me.

Don't fit.

Why's that?

They just don't,

just don't fit, too small.

Can't you get bigger ones?

Tried, no good.

Extra, extra big ones?

Never tried the extra, extra.

Right...

Let's see who turns up.

So what are you doing now?

Just going on the internet

to see...

to see who's about.

I feel sorry for Sue.

She missed the golden years

of dogging

when it was natural and original.

Since the internet's come on,

you know,

dogging's just absolutely

gone to shit.

You know, we spend so much time

on the internet

trying to arrange to meet people,

when really we should be

out in the woods shagging.

What's happening?

No-one about at the moment,

not this area anyway.

Where are they all?

Midlands, Scotland,

Broxton,

A41.

I don't think we'll ever stop

going out dogging.

That's our weekend relaxation.

I think I'll just carry on dogging

till the day I die.

OWL HOOTS

What Sue will do after that,

I don't know.

This burger's really nice.

How's it going, Sarah?

All good.

But...I think deep down

I want to give the dogging up.

Cos I think deep down

I don't want to do it no more.

It's been up and down lately,

to be honest.

What do you mean?

I've thought about quitting myself,

and just stop it altogether now.

So what's this whole

dogging experience done for you?

Made me realise

how much he loved me.

I don't think I realised he cared,

to be honest.

That's a nice feeling.

Really nice.

I don't think I've had people

care like that for me before.

I'll always protect her.

It's my job as her boyfriend.

Just think we're better than that.

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