Doctor Who: 30 Years in the Tardis (1993) - full transcript

A specially extended video edition of the documentary filmed to mark the 30th anniversary of the long-running BBC Science Fiction serial, "Doctor Who". Linked by specially filmed footage featuring members of the cast from the series and various old foes & monsters, the show is explored in depth and there are interviews with members of the cast & production team plus input from experts, critics and fans, as well as plenty of (often rarely seen) archive footage and clips from the series.

- WOMAN: I just...
- Hi, kids. All right?

- Get the recording going.

JON PERTWEE: I had a great belief

that it was much more frightening
fo stay on Earth,

that all the threats
should come to Earth,

rather than us going
off into other planets.

There's nothing more alarming than
coming home and finding a yeti

sitting on your loo in Tooting Bec.

TOYAH WILLCOX: I can remember I used to
watch it sitting on my mother's lap,

when I was terribly young.


And the majority of the time my head was
buried in my mother's breast

or in a pillow.

But I really enjoyed
the tantalising fear

and I really believed
what I was watching.


TOM BAKER: Doctor Who is watched at
several levels in an average household.

Excuse me?

Excuse me?

TOM BAKER: The smallest child terrified
behind the sofa or under a cushion

and the next one up laughing at him

and the elder one saying, "Shh, I want
to listen. " And the parents saying,

“Isn't this enjoyable?”

COLIN BAKER: It's endeared itself to
generations of people in this country,

because even though the Doctor

comes from a placed called
Gallifrey and is a Time Lord,

there is an essentially British quality
to the programme.

I think that's probably
why it's popular overseas.

SYLVESTER McCOY: It is part of our
television culture, Doctor Who,

and it has a great influence
on young people.

' Exterminate!


NARRATOR: It was 16 minutes past 5,
Earth time,

on Saturday, the 23rd of November, 1963,

Just a day after the assassination
of President Kennedy,

when Doctor Who first materialised
on BBC television.

Squeezed between the football results
and The Telegoons, a legend was born.

Have you ever thought what it's like to
be wanderers in the fourth dimension?

Have you?

To be exiles?

Susan and I are cut off from our own
planet, without friends or protection.

But one day, we shall get back.

Yes. One day...

He was a mystery, an enigma.

It becomes clear later that he is not
in fact a human being

but they didn't know
that right from the start.

- I'm a Time Lord.
- Oh, I know you're a Time Lord.

You don't understand the implications.

I'm not a human being,
I walk in eternity.

(LAUGHING) What's that supposed to mean?

It means I've lived for
something like 750 years.

- You'll soon be middle aged.
- Yes!

He's an old-fashioned hero.

He's always an extremely good,
extremely moral character.

He's always on the side of
right and truth and justice.

There are some corners of the universe

which have bred
the most terrible things.

Things which act against everything
that we believe in.

They must be fought.

In all my travellings throughout the
universe, I have battled against evil.

Against power-mad conspirators.

I should have stayed here,

the oldest civilisation,

decadent, degenerate
and rotten to the core.

Power-mad conspirators?
Daleks, Sontarans, Cybermen!

They're still in the
nursery compared to us.

Ten million years of absolute power,

that's what it takes to
be really corrupt.

DICKS: He's never cruel,
he's never unkind.

He's always trying to make peace,
he always protects the underdog.

Do you run all your factories
like that, Controller?

That was not a factory, Doctor.

- Then what was it?
- A rehabilitation centre.

A rehabilitation centre
for hardened criminals.

Including old men and women?

Even children?

I'm not sure he always won but
I mean, what separated him from

the evil that he encountered,
uh, was his...

And this is paradoxical,
but it was his human qualities.

But I think basically he acted
out of a moral impulse.

You know, that was his defining trait.

I'm gratified that you appreciate it.

Appreciate it?

Appreciate it!

But you commit mass destruction

and murder on a scale
that's almost inconceivable

and you ask me to appreciate it?

Just because you happen to have made
a brilliantly conceived toy

out of the mummified remains of planets!

Devilstorms, Doctor! It is not a toy!

Then what's it for? Huh?

What are you doing?

What could possibly be worth all this?

COLIN BAKER: I suppose
what sums up the Doctor, really,

is an essential belief
in the rightness of things.

And if things aren't right,

then he feels compelled to do
something about it.

And right doesn't always necessarily
mean beautiful or happy or pretty,

but right. It's got to be right.

They dare to tamper

-with the forces of creation?
- Yes. They dare.

And we have got to dare to stop them.

I saw the character of Doctor Who as
an anti-establishment character

and I really do feel initially that's
one of the reasons why people

were drawn towards... Kids particularly,
because they felt that

here was an adult, you know, who was as
against the establishment as they were.

And they sort of bonded with him
in a strange way,

even though they were sort of
scared of him at the same time.


Hey, what's that for?

Oh, well you see, the problem is

coming back to the
20th century, my dear,

the Tardis, I'm afraid, is often
mistaken for the real Police Box.

I see what you mean.

Yes, and fortunately, he can't get in.


Two hearts beat inside
the Doctor's unearthly body.

The Doctor once claimed that
an aspirin might kill him.

The Doctor can only regenerate 12 times.

Then, it really is the end.

LAMBERT: William Hartnell,
who was the first Doctor Who,

I think absolutely fell in love
with the character

because Doctor Who, as I envisaged,
was a rather cantankerous,

difficult, unpredictable character,

who also had a bit of
the child in him there as well

I was only little
when the programme started

but it seemed quite natural to me

that my grandfather should be on
television with a long, white wig,

playing the character. But of course
it meant that I could watch it

without getting scared.
So I didn't watch from behind the sofa.

I knew that it was going to be all right

and that my grandfather would
win in the end.

I know that he did a lot
of personal appearances as Doctor Who.

I think he really enjoyed doing that

because he really appreciated
all the fans

and the fact that so many kids thought
it was such a exciting programme.

With two young grandchildren,

he'd suddenly become
aware of children again

in way that he probably
hadn't been for years.

He believed in the programme and loved
getting through to the kids

and I think he...
It was important to him

that it wasn't too violent
and too frightening.

But he also knew that kids loved
the excitement of it as well

Well, he was quite bossy
in some ways, Bill.

Yes, he was.

He had very definite ideas about how one
should behave, especially a young girl.

The trouble is I think that he rather
confused the fact

that I was playing a 15-year-old.

And he treated me like a 15-year-old.

He took the part a little bit
beyond the bounds of duty.

I've been finding out a lot about
my grandfather lately

because I'm in the middle of
writing a biography of him.

So it's been really
interesting for me to

look over his past and
see how many films he did

and what actually led up to
him being cast as Doctor Who.

Because I think it's quite curious that
someone who was well-known for playing

angry army sergeants
and tough criminals

should have become so well-known
and so loved by children.

Come along, my dear,
it's time we were off.


LETTS: One of the reasons why Doctor Who
has managed to survive for so long,

is precisely because of this bright
idea they had

when William Hartnell wanted to leave
the show after three years,

that he could regenerate into
a different-looking person.

And he did indeed regenerate into
Patrick Troughton.

POLLY: Ben, do you remember what he said
in the tracking room?

Something about "This old
body of mine is wearing a bit thin."

BEN: So he gets himself a new one?
POLLY: well, yes.

I was really miffed.
I didn't like it at all.

I didn't understand it.
It was heartbreaking to see

this familiar face go and to accept...

Well, it was rather kind of...

romantically put that he was
regenerating into another Doctor Who.

I mean, in my eyes, he was dying,

and I'd never see him again.

And it was just hard to accept but I
think I had forgotten about him

within... Four episodes
into the new Doctor Who,

I'd forgotten who William Hartnell was.

Shows how fickle we are, doesn't it?

Oh, so you're my replacements?

A dandy and a clown.

- Have you done anything?
- Well, we've assessed the situation...

Just as I thought


Billy had made him this crotchety

old gentleman. He was very serious
and I had to be very serious, too.

But the way I made it serious was by...

Well, by making him a bit of
a clown to start with.

Sort of offbeat thing, you see.

Ah, Doctor, at last!


- Right!
- Let go of me!

We started rather wild and we
mellowed as the time went on, you see.

Now, then, where shall we go?

Ah, let's just get our breath back first
before you start tearing off anywhere.

Anyway, as you know,
the Tardis has a mind of its own.

You know you can't control it.

- Can't control it?
- No.

We'll see about that.

We'll see about that!

- Here we go again.
- Wonder where it'll be this time?

Yes, I wonder.

I remember the first day of rehearsals,

I walked into the rehearsal room
and I was actually terrified.

Very scared, very young, very shy.

And Pat was marvellous,
he made me feel at home immediately.

What about me?

- Did I as well?
- Well sort of, yes.

Well, yes you did, actually,
I must be nice to you.

- I was lusting after you at the time.
- No, you weren't, Frazer. Stop it!

Anyway, Pat... had a lovely
sense of humour as well,

With the twinkling eyes.
Very naughty eyes, Pat always had.

But he became really to me like a...

-second father.
- Hmm.

- And a best friend, really.
- And a brilliant actor as well.

- Super.
- A believable Doctor.

Yes, yes. Now, come along.

Oh, no. No, don't let's go
into the tunnel, please!

But we've got to get above ground,

Now, let's try the next station.

- Come on...
- No, Jamie, no! Don't move!

Don't touch the rail!
whatever you do, stand still!

- What's the matter?
- Stand still.

Don't move.

Keep quite still, Jamie.


It's all right.

You can relax. The electricity is off.

It's very hard to describe Troughton.

Whereas Jon was much more Holmesian,
wasn't he? Very grand and...

He's so shockingly recognisable,
isn't he?

He's rather like a tall light bulb,
isn't he?

Glitters. (CHUCKLES)

There are very few men who can
get away with a velvet jacket

and a frill-fronted shirt.

I can think of Jimi Hendrix and
Jon Pertwee and they are the only ones.

Do you mean me?

TURNER: Doctor Who started as
a very Edwardian gent.

Very genteel, slightly dandy
but not too wild.

And as you look at what
happens over time,

there's always this Edwardian feel
that runs right the way through.

He might have assistants who verge
on the sort of youth element at times,

but he is always the gentleman.

Clothes, obviously, are very important
to Doctor Who.

Don't quite know where
he gets them from.

Somewhere, somewhere in space.

Jon Pertwee was, without doubt,
my favourite of all the Doctors,

because I just think
he's so damn sexy, I mean,

I certainly would have followed him
into that Tardis anywhere.

Even if we got fo the wrong place,
I wouldn't have minded.

Come on.

We'll just take a quick look around.

Then I'll try and get you back to Earth,
all right?

ERIC SAWARD: Pertwee reflected
the popularity of James Bond.

Drawing on what was happening at the
time, he was very much James Bond,

the way he dressed.

MAN: Action!
SAWARD: It was very much more into

hardware, cars... Whomobiles.

Hello, old girl.

He's turned off to the right, Brigadier.

It's got a Hillman Imp engine
at the back,

which is a real popped-up engine.

And the front end is a Bond
with a little tiny wheel about this big.

And I'm sitting in
a sort of two-inch steel box

because I thought
we'd need a bit of safety.

And it certainly is the most
extraordinary car I've ever seen.

Jon, it looks rather like a hovercraft.

- Is it allowed to go on the road?
- Yes it is. It's a one-off.

- There's nothing like it in the world.
- I'm sure.

And it isn't a hovercraft.
It's a proper car that is

-taxed and insured.
- How does it run?

It looks as though
it's on a cushion of air.

- It's in fact on three wheels.
- One at the front and two at the rear.

- Mind the jets at the rear.
- Right.

- Don't frighten the dog.
- Here we go.

Bye, Jon.


Doctor, we're flying!

Yes, of course we're flying.

All the Doctors had their own
particular eccentricities.

Would you like a Jelly Baby?

They're rather good. Go on, have one.

There were the Jelly Babies, which
I think ran through several Doctors,

as did the sonic screwdriver.



Even the sonic screwdriver
won't get me out of this one.

Drop the sonic device.


Isn't my day, is it?

I feel as though you've
just killed an old friend.

JAMIE: What's that?
DOCTOR: It's a sonic screwdriver.

NARRATOR: The Doctor's
trusty sonic screwdriver

first appeared in an episode
which, sadly, no longer exists on film.

DOCTOR: All done by soundwaves.

It's such a sad thing that the BBC,
you know, hasn't got in its archives

Doctor Who from...

-day one.
- Day one.

It was a long time ago, I know,
and it was in black and white

but no, that's the period.

My era they called the monster era,
do you think?

HINES: Hmm, yeah.

WATLING: And it's looked on
as a classic.

IAN LEVINE: There had been
a consistent five-year run

of Doctor Who episodes being junked.

From '72 to '78 all the BBC Enterprises
had destroyed all the negatives,

without checking that they
existed anywhere else.

'X came in in 1378 to BBC Enterprises, '

went into a vault and found
the very first Dalek story

all taped up and marked for destruction.

And the guy that let us into the vault
said it was due to be taken out

and burnt that day.
So if I had been a day later,

we would have lost
the very first Dalek story forever.

DALEK: Fire!


NARRATOR: There are currently 110
episodes of Doctor Who still missing.

DALEK: Stop!

NARRATOR: Fortunately,
we can still enjoy this.

The very first appearance
of the creatures

who secured the programme's
early success.

DALEK: Your legs are paralysed.

You will recover shortly

unless you force us to use
our weapons again.

In that case the condition
will be permanent.

They were such an immediate success

that, in a way, they put the whole
of Doctor Who on the map

and made it a programme
which everyone knew about.

Surely you don't expect all the people
to welcome you with open arms?

DALEK: We have already conquered Earth.

Conquered the Earth? You poor pathetic
creatures, don't you realise?

Before you attempt to conquer the Earth,

you will have to destroy
all living matter.

DALEK: Take them. Take them.

DALEK: We are the masters of Earth.

We are the masters of Earth.

We are the masters of Earth.

Humanoid female observed in river area.

Pursue and detain!

Pursue! Pursue! Pursue! Pursue!

Stand by. Order Dalek Hoverbout
to Sector 4.

I obey.

Today when I saw those Daleks,
I remembered the first time

when we went out to shoot that.

And it was a Sunday morning

because that's the only time
you could shoot like this.

And very early, and there were these
creatures coming across the bridge.

And even though I knew that it was
unreal, I almost felt it could be real

There's something about them that made
people suspend their disbelief.

A man called Sydney Newman,
who was a Canadian,

who was then Head of BBC Drama, and who
had thought of the basics of Doctor Who,

he was furious about the Daleks
because he had told me

that he didn't want any BEMs, which is
short for bug-eyed monsters.

And he considered the Daleks
to be the epitome of BEMs.


The word "Dalek" means "a far and
distant thing" in Serbo-Croat.

Dalek, is an anagram of "Kaled,”
the race from which the Daleks evolved.

' When its top is removed, '

a Dalek emits an automatic
distress call

What are you waiting for?

Just touch these two strands together

and the Daleks are finished.

Have I that right?

To destroy the Daleks?
You can't doubt it!

Well, I do.

You see, some things could
be better with the Daleks.

Many future worlds will become allies

just because of
their fear of the Daleks.

It isn't like that...

But the final responsibility is mine
and mine alone.

SARAH JANE: We're talking about
the Daleks,

the most evil creatures ever invented.

You must destroy them! You must complete
your mission for the Time Lords.

DOCTOR: Do I have the right?

DALEK: On course for planet Desperus.

Impact in point-six...

DICKS: The appeal of the Daleks
is total nastiness.

There is absolutely nothing
good about a Dalek.

They have no redeeming qualities,
they have no conversation.

You know, they have no lighter side.


Their one response to being frustrated
in any way is to exterminate you.



A few weeks ago, you may remember, we
launched our own Doctor Who competition

to mark the programme's
30th anniversary.

Yes, the question we asked was
"Who created the Daleks?"

And the answer is writer Terry Nation.

Hundreds of people wrote in.

I'm going to ask Jon

to pick one of these cards
that's in our special Doctor Who...

Excuse me, are you sure that
Terry Nation invented the Daleks?

Oh, don't, he'll know!

DALEK: Daleks conquer and destroy!
Daleks conquer...

ALAN WHICKER: These are the villains
of children's hour, the heavies,

perambulating metal monsters
with a tendency fo exterminate.

They've had a
comfortingly unhorrific effect

upon the life and
surroundings of their creator,

a former comedian turned scriptwriter,
Terry Nation.

Those who cater for the public taste

have always found the monstrous
a profitable preoccupation.

Well, a lot of people said
Terry Nation, anyway.

I think Terry wrote
about it in a script.

But it was in fact invented...
The machine was invented by

a gentleman on the staff of the BBC.

Who got an ex gratia payment
of 250 quid, I think.

Okay, we're delighted
that you came to see us today, Jon.

WHICKER: Now television
offers its rewards.

- So this is... This is how it all began?
- That's it.

How did a Dalek come to be a heavy?

It... Well, I needed a villain.

You know, a very quick job. There was
to be six episodes of Doctor Who,

which was take the money
and fly like a thief.

I needed a villain
and the Daleks appeared somehow.

I couldn't tell you
an interesting story.

They were just the villainous creatures
that came out of nowhere.

Oh, there was going to be Dalek films,
they were going to make Dalek soap

and Dalek tea towels.

You know,
everyone had visions of lots of money.

Um, I...

Was quite friendly then
with Terry Nation.

And we appeared on

a very famous show on BBC2
called Late Night Line-Up.

And I remember asking him
after the show,

"What about the films, Terry?" And he
said, "Leave it to me," you know.

And I never saw him again.

- The judge's decision is always final.
- Absolutely.

It is, and the judge's
decision has been final.

- Yeah, yeah.
- Whether it was right or not.

- Terry Nation is the answer.
- Right.

- We'll pick the Terry Nation winner.
- Good.

I suppose it's the fact that it is
totally unhumanoid, that it's...

It has no arms or legs,
no facial distinction,

so it's not something that's...

that's a man dressed up.

- Have another go. The answer's wrong.

And they were horrified
but they never stopped looking.

That was the beauty of it.
The letters came from

the parents, saying,
"How dare you put these things on?"

But the letters came from
the kids saying, "Please don't stop."

Doctor Who competition.
Answer, "Davros". That's wrong.

That's the third one that says Dav...
Look, I'm beginning to panic here.

If I may have your attention.

The inventor of the Daleks
was Terry Nation.


I've never been sure
of the truth of this.

I now say

that the Daleks were very much

based on the SS and the Nazis.

Line up.

It wasn't as if it was a concealed
subplot, subtext in the story,

it was right there out in the open
what they were

and what they symbolise.

Mass exterminations followed by
absolute suppression of the survivors.

DALEK 1: Operate pyro-flames.

DALEK 2: We obey.

NARRATOR: The Daleks blazed a trail
for the next 30 years,

returning time and again to do battle
with each of the seven Doctors.

They became so familiar

that the word "Dalek" even found its
way into the English Dictionary.

DICKS: Daleks, in fact, are not robots.

Inside the Dalek is a small,
squiggly, helpless creature.

The Dalek is really a tank
with a living being inside it,

only the two have kind of
grown interfused.

And I think every little kid likes
the idea of getting inside the Dalek

and zooming around giving
Mum, Dad, Teacher

and anybody else who gets up their
nose, you know,

a quick exterminating blast.

When I was about nine,
I had a Dalek suit.

It was wonderfully perverse,
it was red PVC

with kind of little knobs on.

And I used to like smelling it
because I loved the smell of PVC.

And it had this cardboard head

and this kind of knob at the end.

This is the Dalek suit
given to me Christmas, 1964.

There was another Dalek suit as well,
given to my brother,

but I'm afraid that's disintegrated.

My parents got very worried because they
didn't know the factory had burnt down

and they didn't arrive,
they didn't arrive,

then at 10:00 at night
on Christmas Eve they arrived.

It was a special delivery
because after all,

my grandfather was William Hartnell.

Christmas morning, my brother and I
opened the packages and saw these

wonderful Dalek suits.

We put them on.

I was a little bit too tall and
my feet showed under the bottom

but my brother was completely covered.

I exterminated my brother about
10 times a day. It was just bliss.

CHILD: Exterminate!
Exterminate! Exterminate!

I thought they were a bit silly because
they weren't frightfully manoeuvrable.

I mean, here they were supposed to be
the greatest threat on Earth,

from wherever.

And you only had to go down
two flights of stairs

and that was that, they couldn't follow
you. They had to say, "Oi, come back!"

If you're supposed to be the superior
race of the universe,

why don't you try climbing after us?


I made lots of jokes about that in
the past but of course, that's out now.

No longer does the story mean anything,
because Daleks can now go down stairs.

NARRATOR: It was 25 years
before the Dalek

was seen to conquer
the staircase on-screen.

But in the famous comic strips
of the mid-'60s

they dominated the skies
from their Transolar discs.

Dalek Hoverscout reporting
from Sector 4.

Target observed escaping
in time capsule.

Order pursuit by new proto-Daleks.

The trouble is, you see,
they couldn't always necessarily see

where they were in relation
to everybody else.

And you'd have the director
yelling directions to them.

And if he'd say,
“You in the middle, move to the left, "

They wouldn't necessarily know
that they were in the middle.

So we decided the best thing to do
would be to stick

Dalek 1, Dalek 2, Dalek 3, etcetera,

you know, in a sufficiently prominent
place so the director could say,

"Right. Dalek 1, move to your left."

Trying out which side camera,
out to the left?

Can you come forward please, John?

Right, and direct to camera?

LETTS: The Daleks were
never popular with directors.

One director said to me when I asked her
if she'd like to direct a Doctor Who,

she said, "Yes, as long as
I don't have to direct any tin cans."

MAN 1: Done, Geoff?

MAN 2: Hold it. Hold the fire.
Can we go on a single on Murphy?

- Murphy is the right-hand one, isn't he?
- This one.

Yes, that one.

NARRATOR: The Daleks really hit the big
time with two movies in the mid-'60s.

And when Susan next stepped
from the Tardis,

she was played by Roberta Tovey,

at the tender age of 77.

ANNOUNCER: Doctor Who,
the brilliant science professor,

the young man who triggered
off this strange journey,

the professor's
frightened granddaughter

and the youngster who inherited her
grandfather's adventurous spirit

A lot of people forget
that there's been two movies.

They seem to remember

all the television Doctor Whos,
which it was originally made for.

But it's nice that there are quite a
few fans out there that remember.

ANNOUNCER: 2750 AD, a year that
will thrill you and terrify you.


We did a scene
on the back lot at Shepperton

where we were driving along,
bumpily along,

and it was going quite fast,

and one of the Dalek airships
was supposed to have spotted us,

so it's chasing us along.

And I can remember at the time
being quite terrified

that I was going to get thrown out
of this van any moment.

ANNOUNCER: Leading the resistance
fighters is Peter Cushing,

his most thrill-making role.

TOVEY: Peter Cushing
was Doctor Who for me,

and he was like a grandfather to me.


Aided by Bernard Cribbins,

a reluctant traveller into
the dangerous future.

Have you seen the girl?

Listen, where's the girl?

ANNOUNCER: Ray Brooks,
the boy with the knack...

who doesn't find life so easy
in the year 2150 AD.

Andrew Keir, fill Curzon,
Roberta Tovey.

It would be wonderful to do
another film after all these years,

that Susan has grown up, but...

That would be nice,
but it's still nice to know that

we did the two films. And...

that still stands at the moment.

No one else has ever made
any more films of them.

Stop the countdown!
The bomb will destroy the planet!

DALEK: We are coming back to see you!

We expect you to be here fo meet us!

- Bring back memories?
- It certainly does.


You have invaded
the world of the Daleks.

The sets were amazing.

I think actually, it was the
first plastic set

that was ever made, it was also
the first colour version of Doctor Who.

That's right.

And big screen. So it was sold on that.

ANNOUNCER: Now you can see them
in colour on the big screen,

closer than ever before.

So close you can feel their fire.

So thrilling you must be there.

They were meant to shoot fire
and they changed that because

-it was sort of...
- Too frightening...

Too frightening for the kiddos.

So they shot foam, didn't they?

- Fire extinguishers.
- Yes, that's the word

- I was looking for. Fire extinguishers.
- Fire extinguishers.

Foam. And they were full of dancers
who were specially selected

because they were so agile.

And I think they must have been very hot
and very uncomfortable.

In fact, I know they were.

The Daleks was, for me,

the great scene where I beat up
this Dalek with a baseball bat.

Under attack! Under attack!

Vision impaired!

Reinforcements requested!

And then it was one of those wonderful
Doctor Who-y like endings

which I always remember
from my childhood, which is...

Oh, my goodness!

How on earth is the assistant
going to get away from this one?

DALEK: Stay where you are. Do not move.

Exterminate! Exterminate!

DALEKS: Exterminate! Exterminate!

Exterminate! Exterminate!
Exterminate! Exterminate!

I loved those endings.

These were very, very alarming indeed

and it was the atmosphere
that made it the success it was.

Jumping Jehoshaphat!

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- Do you like it?
- Do I like it?

I love it!

- Is it really a Prime Computer?
- Do you know about them?

Know about them!

I have seen them on Gallifrey,
in the constellation of Kasterborous.


- At last, I am up to date.
- Would you like to be introduced?

- It's terribly interactive.
- Interactive?

- You mean immediate response?
- Immediate.

Okay, Prime.

How long is my scarf?

- Well, it's not that impressive.
- What?

In seven computer languages
and five protocols?

- Protocols?
- Yes.

- That's how it talks to other computers.
- It talks to other computers?

Well, of course it does.

It's a Prime.

You're going to be all right, kid.




Where do monsters come from
is a chicken and an egg story.

I mean, do they come from fairy tales?

Where did the monsters in
fairy tales come from?

Where do the monsters
in myths come from?

Monsters, there've always been monsters.
People have always believed in monsters.

People have always told
stories about monsters.

I think small children
liked to be frightened

because it's safe. It's safe to be
frightened by something on the TV.

We cast that head in rubber.

- It's all made of rubber, is it?
- Nearly all made of rubber.

Yes, this is a sort of fabric here,
which is a plastic.

As you can see, this is...

solid rubber,
and I imagine for the unfortunate artist

who has to wear this for a long period,
very uncomfortable indeed.

INTERVIEWER: I mean, did you set out
to try and make them

as horrible as you possibly can?
Are there no limits?

I don't think so, I think the author
in any of the Doctor Who stories,

and as you know,
there are number of authors,

and they obviously create
these monsters in their own minds

and we try and interpret them
as faithfully as possible.

INTERVIEWER: After you've created
some of these,

or helped to create some
of these monsters,

do they then take on
a sort of personality of their own?

Do they become either more horrific than
you'd intended or perhaps more amusing?

WILKIE: They certainly
take on a personality

because particularly with the Draconian,

we're looking at the mutant at the
moment but there is an ugly creature.

And obviously, an actor wearing that,
he very much becomes a mutant.

And one wouldn't stand next
to him in the tea queue.

INTERVIEWER: Outside, I think we can
use one of your monsters again right now

to hopefully walk straight
through that pane of glass.

Here he goes.


There's a monster called the Cybermen,
who are humans who have replaced

most of themselves
by various metal parts.

These humanoids are not like us.
They still have fear.

Place the Cybermats on the runway.

Cybermats will attack.

I have to say, I remember the Cybermen

because I thought that
they were particularly sexy.


Because they were so masculine
and there they were

in these kind of fetish suits,
these kind of silver suits.

The earliest Cybermen,
in early editions of Doctor Who,

they were rather absurd creatures,

it was as though someone had got
dressed up out of a kitchen drawer.

They were wearing sort of household
bolts and bayonet sockets.

And the highest expression of
technological outerwear

was wearing gumboots painted silver.

But slowly and slowly, the Cybermen
evolved into latter-day Cybermen,

who are actually wearing
immersion suits,

like military aircraft pilots.

So, curiously, the Cyberman is
one strain of Doctor Who

which is in touch with genuinely
advanced thinking about technology.

LETTS: Monsters do divide
into more mechanical monsters

like the Daleks and the Cybermen
and the more organic ones.

Like the Drashigs, which were
40-foot-high caterpillars

with faces like dogs

and horns as well, and made
the most ghastly roaring noise.


They haven't got a thought in their
head except just fo eat anything

that came near them, you see.

Or you had the giant maggots.
Maggots as big as this, or that size.

And if they bit you or even touched
you, you turned bright green and died.

Good grief!

Green, the colour for monsters is green
for some reason or other,

that seems to be a particular thing.

On the whole, the organic, the living
creature sort of monster predominates.

The Zygons, for instance, who were
very blobby and slimy and organic.

Immediately, Commander.

This our planet,
we were here before man.

The Draconians, for instance, were
an example of the people monster.

They were an intelligent being,
an intelligent alien race,

and they had morals
and a culture and a way of life,

rather like Japanese samurai,

with codes of honour of their own
and as far as they were concerned,

they were the good guys.

And man was getting in the way.

May I have permission
to address the emperor?

- Wait!
- This is an insult.

My life at your command, sire.

How dare you address the emperor in a
manner reserved for a noble of Draconia?

Ah, but I am a noble of Draconia.

The honour was conferred on me
by the 15th emperor.

The 15th emperor reigned 500 years ago.

Your Majesty, do not be taken in
by this ridiculous story.

Be silent!

Why I like these particular monsters
better than any other

is because you can see the human eye
and you can see the mouth.

And therefore you get
real, true expression.

Unlike the Ice Warriors, in my opinion,
or the Cybermen, who just have a slit,

you just heard the voice.

But here you can see the mouth.
Will you speak to me, sir?

My life at your command.

There you are, you see?
Perfect example.

Eyes can be seen, mouth can be seen.

That's why they were
my favourite monsters.


The noise of a dying Zygon
is made by squelching hand cleanser.

Gold to a Cyberman is like
garlic to a vampire.

And a yeti's roar
is a flushing lavatory.

Slowed down, of course.

We used to sort of sit behind the,
as we are now,

sort of just peering round,
just to see what was coming round,

one of the Cybermen
or the Ice Warriors or something.

' And it was really quite frightening. .

What is that? Let me have it.

- Give it to me at once.
- Zondal.

To a certain extent,
we set out to frighten the viewer.

It's traditional, everybody
talks about how they watched,

when they were little,
Doctor Who over the top of the sofa

or between their fingers
or through the crack in the door.

Well, of course I have made
a lot of children's programmes.

Things like Thunderbirds and Captain
Scarlet, foe 90 and so forth.

But the real tragedy of my life

is that my son Jamie is...

A Doctor Who fan.

Yes, a Doctor Who fan.

The biggest joy is that a year and half
ago, Sadie started to notice Doctor Who,

to watch it and...

- You enjoyed it, didn't you?
- Yeah.

And our house is literally packed with

Tardises of all shapes and sizes

and videos and books.
I mean, you name it, it's there.

We're going to have to
move house shortly

to make more room
for his Doctor Who collection.

I had no idea, you see,
the videos are coming out now.

There's whole new audience,
it's so exciting.

It's really back to youngsters again,
and this wonderful thing

about a hero, and Doctor Who will win.
They need it, they love it.

LETTS: I think that the role of the
monster and the frightening story is

very much the role of the ogre
and the giant in fairy stories.

It's something to be frightened of,
which is...

containable because
it's obviously made up.

A child can accept a monster

when it's quite clearly not something
he's going to meet round the corner.

Together with Doctor Who,
we went through all those

quarter of a million entries,
and it takes quite a long time

to look through that many.

And the winner is really
a very new idea,

and here it is, it's a steel octopus

and it's been designed by Karen Dag.

NOAKES: And we sent this design to
the BBC's special effects workshop

and so here's a life-sized model
of Karen's steel octopus.

Well, the next monster
to win a first prize

is in the 8s-fo-70s group,
and here is the design.

It's a Hypnotron, and it's been invented
by Paul Worrell.

SINGLETON: Quite fearsome
and gruesome that is.

PURVES: Just keep it away from me.

SINGLETON: Yes, well,
in the 11s-and-over section,

this is the first-prize-winning design.

It's an Aguaman, and it's been
created by Stephen Thompson.

I don't think this one can smile
but by gum, he can wink.

LETTS: We actually ran into a great deal
of trouble over one story

where things did come fo life

which were normal.

There was a troll doll
that when it got warm

came to life and
tried to strangle people.

And we got a lot of flak from that
because children were really scared.


A friend of mine said that
his little boy wouldn't take

his teddy bear to bed with him,

in case it came to life
and strangled him.

Well, I'd just got used to going onto
the Underground, perhaps my first trip,

when your mum says go up into the
guards train and make sure you're okay.

And all of a sudden, we saw the yetis
in the Underground.

And that really put a little bit of
the mockers for a couple of weeks.

We had phone calls
from Scotland Yard saying

please don't make policemen frightening

because we had policemen
who had false faces.

The Doctor leant forward
and peeled off the policeman's face

and he had this awful blank
robotic face underneath.

It was a different sort of frightening,
you see.

It's okay to frighten with something
which you are not going to meet

in everyday life,
but it's not otherwise.

Well, it's absolutely fantastic,
isn't it?

I certainly wouldn't like to come round
the corner of the building

and just walk into one of those.

'Deane me, no. What...


What's that strange noise?

Goodness me, it's absolutely enormous!
Look at the size of it!

Quite fantastic.

Well, I think I'll chance...
And go and have closer look to it.

Now, these are the great arms
that do all the smashing.

Look at that for size, look at it.

You can see the power in that,
it can smash through anything.

Now, down here must be this
sort of caterpillar track.

' WAR MACHINE: Let go. .

Well, that is absolutely fantastic,
isn't it?

Just look at the strength of it.

I shouldn't think anything would stand
up, would you? It'd just go, "Broom!"

- Straight through it.
-1 should think Doctor Who

is in for quite a lot of trouble
in his next adventure.

He certainly is. Well, I am going
to certainly look in

on Saturday and see how he gets on.


is about playing Cowboys and Indians,

only it's moved on to television.

And the idea of
the intergalactic traveller

who takes young people with him

and therefore connects
to children and families is a...

is a warm idea,
it's one that makes people happier.

Well, Doctor, can you see anything?
Any sign of life?

DOCTOR: No, no, no.
No sign of life.

Oh, let me have a look?

It's fabulous!

Colin, what do you think is the role of
the companion?

Well, apart from being to lovely to
look at, you mean?

You've always known the answer to that.
You tell me, go on.

- Well, to ask a lot of questions.
- Yes, true. what else?

- To make the Doctor look very clever.
- Of course. What else?

To let the audience know
what's going on.

You're getting there. What else?

To reaffirm the patently obvious.

- That's about the size of it.
- Yes, I thought we'd agree there.

You do know there's a lot of
Cybermen following us?

Yeah, I know that. I knew that.


Twenty-eight companions
have travelled with the Doctor.

Susan was the first Ace was the last

Three companions have
met untimely deaths

on their travels
through time and space.

And one companion posed
with a Dalek. Both were topless.

Yep. They're on their way, yeah.
Here they come now.

NARRATOR: Across the years,
only one companion, a VIP,

has appeared with each of the
seven television Doctors.

Brigadier Alistair Gordon

as played by Nicholas Courtney.

That's me, actually.

My Lord Merlin.


- Oh, he has many names.
- He has many faces.

And he has many companions.
This must be the latest one.

We've checked the perimeter.

Dr Warmsly is staying
with the vehicles.

Oh, Thank you, Bambera.

Oh, see if you can get a blanket
for this young lady, will you?

Yes, sir.
Perhaps I should make some tea, too.

- Well, are you all right, Miss, erm...
- Just call me the latest one.

And I can get my own blanket.

Oh, dear.

Women not really my field.

Don't worry, Brigadier.
People will be shooting at you soon.

My first appearance in
Doctor Who was in 1965,

in "The Dalek Master Plan",
in which I played Bret Vyon.

Desperus is the penal planet
of the solar system.

Well, if it's one of your
prison planets,

surely there are guards and wardens
there to help us?

There aren't any.

They only craft which stop there are
prison ships bringing other criminals.

If we crash there, we'll be left there
to rot the rest of our lives away.

You must try to land softly somewhere.

I can't.
This vessel is out of my control.

Working with Bill Hartnell

was interesting, it was towards the end
of his time as the Doctor.

And I think he was
getting a little tetchy

because he wasn't a particularly
well man. But he seemed to like me.

But the funny thing was, he said,
"You're with the wrong agent, Nick,

"I'll put you with mine."
And I didn't work for a year.

How nice to see you again, Doctor.

It's Colonel Lethbridge-Stewart.

Brigadier now,
I've gone up in the world.

Pat Troughton was leaving

and Jon Pertwee was going to
be the next Doctor.

And they wanted to do a dummy run
to see if the idea of UNIT would work,

whereby this army outfit
would assist the Doctor.

Well, since the Yeti do,
I've been in charge

of an independent intelligence group
that we call UNIT.

That's United Nations
Intelligence Task-force.

You mean you're like
a world secret police?

Not quite, we don't actually
arrest people, we just investigate.

You can call it, not Dad's Army, but
Brig's Army, you have a brigadier,

a captain, a sergeant. And that's it.

It's rather a small group of people
to be fighting alien monsters

and saving the world.

What are we waiting for?
Let's get after him.

Wait, sir. Look.

Yes, I see what you mean.

Never mind, we'll soon fix him.

- Jenkins?
- Sir.

Chap with the wings there,
five rounds rapid.

I mean, that is the military solution
to everything, isn't it?

Five rounds rapid will dispose
of this appalling chap.

Look out!

Thank you, Brigadier.

But do you think for once in your life

you could manage to arrive
before the nick of time?

I'm glad to see you too, Doctor.

The Brigadier,

played by Nicholas Courtney, was
the most wonderful actor to work with

because he was always
so absolutely rock solid.

You never could throw him.

- That line, you mean?
- WOMAN: Yes.

Ah, fine. Yes, sure.
No, okay. Yes, indeed. Yeah, sure.

WOMAN: Studio running. Shh.
Shot 43, take 3.

He was always so straightlaced
and so true about it,

you know, he never wavered,
he knew what he was doing.

And it allowed Sarah to make fun of him
without demeaning him.

Anyway, it's nice to see
you again, Brigadier.

And you, Miss Smith.

But I didn't expect to see you
in a kilt.

My dear Miss Smith, as you'll remember,
my name is Lethbridge-Stewart.

The clan Stewart.

Oh, sorry, I thought
you were doing a Doctor.

BRIGADIER: What an absurd idea.



Where is she?

From a writer's point of view,

the companions have a practical
use in that enables you...

It enables you to split the story
from time to time. I mean,

I always say that the classic
Doctor Who story is

they are travelling in the Tardis.

They land and it's a horrible place.
The Doctor says, "Oh, dear,

“something's gone wrong.

"Let's have a look round.
You go that way, I'll go this way. "


DICKS: They bump into
two opposing perils,

different kinds of perils.

And that gives you a way that you can

split your story into two and have two
story strands going rather than one.


DICKS: The other thing, I think,
is viewer identification.

The Doctor is the other.

So how can you identify with the Doctor?
You are always saying,

"What's the Doctor doing?
What's he up to?"

He's a stranger, he's not really human.

But ah, now, here's the person that
yes, I can go along with.

And feel that she's one of us
or he's one of us.

SARAH JANE: (ON TV) Mrs Scarman? Hey.


SLADEN: I am the audience.

I am that little person watching and
saying, "Oh, why's he done that, Mum?"

You know, so you play that part.

- Oh! Sometimes you don't seem...
- Human?

Typical Osirian simplicity.

- A man has just been murdered.
- Four men, Sarah.

Five, if you include
Professor Scarman himself.

And they may be the first of millions,
unless Sutekh is stopped.

"Know thine enemy."

DOCTOR: Admirable advice.




Fifi from "Happiness Patrol".

Get back, Doctor.

I knew at once. You see, the real
Sarah wasn't wearing a scarf.


What have you done with Sarah, hmm?

Where is the real Sarah?

SLADEN: There were so many things
that happened fo Sarah on Doctor Who.

I didn't realise until recently,
when I was making a list of them.

She met a lot of monsters.

She was shot at.

She was hypnotised, blinded,
her mind was taken over.

She was tied up.

She was tortured.

She was transported elsewhere through
various methods of time and space.

I mean, it was mental and physical.

I don't think I can take much more.

I used to reason out that why I made
the same mistake every episode

was I had this best friend,
the Doctor was my best friend,

and wouldn't you do something
to help your best friend?

It didn't matter if you fell into a bog,
tripped over a twig every five minutes.

You would just go for it and you
would help him. And that was...

motivation, if you wish.

I think what's interesting is the way
in which the programme has reflected

changes in society.

Back in the 1960s,
all the Doctor's young women

where just sort of there
to scream and faint

and collapse and be
generally sort of decorative.

Jamie, the Doctor! (SCREAMS)


Polly, what's happened?

Oh, Doctor! It was horrible!

That's all the women did,
scream and scream and scream.

I think in my very first
episode, when I met you,

I screamed. Not at you, at the Daleks.

For pity's sake, let me go!

DALEK: Speak when you are told to speak!

And I literally screamed
for the whole year.

I screamed my way out of the show.

Help! Somebody!


This accusation has been
frequently levelled at the Doctor

that he's somewhat sexist
or patronising

in his attitude to female companions.

It's not without a certain
amount of truth, I would say.

You couldn't put your hand on your heart
and swear that this was not so.

You found something?

Oh, Polly, I only wish I had.

Why not make some coffee to keep them
all happy while I think of something?

All right.

- Stand by, Liz.
- Standing by, Doctor.

LETTS: Though there was a companion

who was a very clever scientist

So she could talk to
the Doctor on equal terms.

Well, that was fine.
They could discuss things

and the science fiction fans
or the scientists in the audience

would know exactly
what they were talking about,

but the majority of
the audience wouldn't.

And so, quite deliberately,

we decided to change it.

- I'm your new assistant.
- Oh, no.

She said when she first met him,

"Yes, I took science at A level."

-1 took general science at A level.
- Yes, I'm sure you did but even so.

Later on she made a
silly blunder and he said...

I thought you took an
A level in science?

I didn't say I passed.

I think we're talking,
you know, James Bond

and the bikini'd lovelies.

I mean, no better and no worse.

# La-la, la-la

# La-la-la-la

# It could be Mars or Venus
But whatever he may do

# He'll always be a friend of mine
# Who?

# Doctor Who

# Doctor Who #

Look, Jo, why don't you go
and get out of that ridiculous garb?


NICOLA BRYANT: I had a lot of questions
asked to me about

what did it feel like
wearing a bikini on Doctor Who?

And I thought, I felt
fine wearing a bikini

because I was swimming and I felt
stupid wearing a three-piece suit.

But I was very intrigued by
certain shots that were put in,

which I think other people enjoyed.


I think I'm going to die.

of him having a sort of, um,

a savage as a companion.

In other words, doing a sort of
Professor Higgins, Pygmalion,

have that kind of relationship.

The idea really was to
make the girl assistant more...

You know, less The Perils of Pauline

and more able to
be more dynamic, actually.

I mean, I wanted a bit more of a sort of

dynamic role model for the girls
who watched the programme.

In a house this size,
there must be protection.

The professor will have
weapons in fixed positions,

to guard the approaches.

I brought you to the wrong time,
my girl.

You would have loved Agincourt.

She was meant to be a cave woman.

So that meant she had to
wear an awful lot of chamois leather.

Although in a way, not an awful lot
because there was so little of it.

It was a tiny little dress.

K9: Negative, negative, negative...

TURNER: She was immensely
popular with the dads.

'Cause she came on
after the football results.

And so, you know, they just
hung around with their cup of tea

and caught sight of her in a leotard.

The main thing was to get the
adults involved in the programme

so it was a sort of
family viewing event.

I believed that the stories should be

very well-plotted and
should have a lot of jeopardy

and genuine excitement in them.



Violence in Doctor who
is very difficult.

The Doctor is involved in adventures
that deal with violent people.

And sometimes the only way to
deal with violence, unfortunately,

is to be violent in return.

- How dare you touch me!
- Oh!

SAWARD: That's what I feel
That if you display violence,

you should show it for what it is.

I don't think you should dwell on it.
I don't think it should be gratuitous.

But I think that when you do display
violence, you should show it hurts.




Now, last week you may remember
we were discussing Doctor Who.

Is it too violent for children?

Well, perhaps it really came back to
is it too violent for the parents?

Inevitably, with any programme, there
are complaints every now and then

about the level of violence.

And I think that's something that has
dogged the show right from day one.

To me, I think it's extraordinary

that people with a brilliance,
in many ways,

and making a programme
of that kind, couldn't have

extended their awareness.

Not only to their cameras
and all the rest of it

but to the effect of what they were
doing upon the children

who were receiving it.

That was a...
Almost as though they were a bit dumb.

I must admit that quite often, you know,
in my prayers by the side of the bed,

I would pray that Mrs Whitehouse
had watched the programme

and thought it was too violent.

'Cause it automatically put two million
viewers on our audience figures.

We've received very good
punch-in appreciation figures.


One particular programme,
and I can see it still in my mind's eye,

where Doctor Who...

The final shot of the episode
was Doctor Who drowning.

You're finished, Doctor!

You're finished!

These sort of images,
the final shots of the programme,

with the image that was
left in the mind of the child

for a whole week.

Some of the stories in my era were
latched onto as being more frightening.

But I don't think we ever
overstepped the mark, in my view.

And people seemed to like it
because the ratings were very high.







Oh, bloody corridors.
We're always in corridors.

-I know, this takes me back.
- Lucky you're not in a quarry.


(COUGHING) Dear, oh dear.


Hi! I've just discovered I can increase
the power of my Prime by five times

In 111 seconds.

Office automation, revolution.
Accounting, no more books.

Around the planet
communications, instantly.

I can design ships,
run power stations, oil, gas.

Where would the energy
industry be without Prime?

Ask it how to handle a woman.

- Romana, would you marry...
- Yes.

Oh, Prime.

- Clever Prime.
- You can say that again.

Clever prime.


- No, it's not Doctor Who!
- It's Friday!

- It's 5:00!
- And it's Crackerjack!


- Ah! How are you, me old friend?
- Hi, there.

- Now, what was it?
- How are you doing?

Which one was it we worked in?

- Come on now, tell...
- Um...

-"Curse of Fenric".
-"Curse of Fenric", ah.

Haemovore. Haemovore, she woman.
Me Doctor. How.

Its structure of line and colour

is curiously counterpointed by the
redundant vestiges of its function.

And since it has no call to be here,

the art lies in the fact
that it is here.



Because when I was working on
Doctor Who,

inevitably quite a lot of humour
was in the programme,

and some people
liked this and some people didn't.

I have to say that in fact the way
the humour went into the programmes

wasn't exactly the way
that I intended it to.

I say.

A danger one runs, and I kept on
running into this problem,

is that the moment you have
anything in the script

that's clearly meant to
be funny in some way,

everybody thinks, "Oh, well, we can do
silly voices and silly walks and so on."

And I think that's exactly
the wrong way to do it.



What are you doing here?
You're not even in this series.

Yeah, no, that's perfectly all right.
Harry had to go into hospital.

(LAUGHS) Had to have
his duffle coat removed.

Of course.


Quick, the lift door! Oh! Ah!

My dear, I don't think
he's as stupid as he seems.

My dear, nobody could be
as stupid as he seems.

I think that Doctor Who is at its best

when the humour and
the drama work together.

And that however absurd
a situation may be,

it is actually very, very real
and has very real consequences.

That's the moment at which
something that's inherently absurd

actually becomes frightening.

We have the power
to do anything we like,

absolute power over
every particle in the universe.

Everything that has ever
existed or ever will exist,

as from this moment.

Are you listening to me, Romana?

- Yes, of course I'm listening.
-'Cause if you're not listening,

I can make you listen.

Because I can do anything.

As from this moment,
there's no such thing

as free will in the entire universe.

There's only my will because
I possess the key to time!

Doctor, are you all right?

Well, of course I'm all right.
But suppose that I wasn't all right?

This thing makes me feel in such a way
I'd be very worried if I felt like that

about somebody else feeling like
this about that. Do you understand?

- Yes.
- What do you understand?

That the sooner we hand this over
to the White Guardian...

BOTH: The better!

- How's Mr Banerjee?
- DALEK: He's not very well!

- Why?
- I exterminated him, too!

Well, you shouldn't have done that.


DALEK: Put him in the curry.

MAT IRVINE:. The main problem with K9
was that he was designed for one story,

which was set all inside a studio.

When Tony Harding, the designer,
actually put K9 together,

he didn't know that he was actually

going to go out on location
at various times.

And he'd have to go over grass
and pavements and gravel paths.

Because he had to be
completely redesigned

and there were still occasions
when he would get stuck.

DALEK: Put him in the curry!

When K9 was first invented,
he was working on

a system of radio control that was
in some ways now quite old.

And the very first time he was in the
studio he had a terrible job because

he'd interfere with the cameras and
the cameras used to interfere with him

and he used to go haywire
and drive into the scenery.

This is why eventually we had to
rebuild him and rebuild the insides,

change the radio control system
around so he'd be a lot more reliable.

He's usually okay on a flat floor,
but getting him in and out of the Tardis

could be a bit of a problem.
There was actually just no way

he'd climb into the Tardis.

- K9: Mistress.
- Come along, K9.

- Goodbye.
- Goodbye, then.

ANNOUNCER: And in London
and the Southeast tonight,

a world safe for Daleks.

We talk to Tom Baker about his
decision to hang up his scarf

and travel through time no more.

Well, thank goodness he's gone.

Well, Tom Baker, this is extremely sad
news that you're leaving the show,

and K9's announced his resignation
two weeks ago.

So with master and dog gone,

what's going to happen
to the series now?

Well, it will just
go on and on and on and on,

because it's part of our...

television, isn't it?
why should it stop? There's no evidence.

Everybody's been very successful at it.

But what's going to happen
in the series?

There'll be a new Doctor who,

- There will, there will.
- He will be regenerated.

That's the trouble with regeneration.

You never know quite know
what you're going to get.

We decided on a cricketing motif.

Peter Davison and the cricket was
a quite interesting sort of concept

and obviously, if the series was on
during the winter

and I was away on tour,

I'd get the wife to tape them
for me and I'd sit down and watch

the whole sort of winter series.


You've seen the sonic screwdriver
being a great sort of a,

if you like, a bit of instrument
for the Doctor.

And all of a sudden,
we see a cricket bat

and a cricket ball being swung around.

But it was nice to have
something like that to sort of say,

well, he was the Doctor.
He loved cricket You know, it was nice.

SAWARD: I didn't think a young man
could have played it back in the '60s.

In the '80s, it was possible.

The audience could more readily
relate to him being 900 years old

and yet, in reality, he was
only in his early 30s.

NATHAN-TURNER: When Peter decided
that after three years

he wanted to move on to something else,

once again one was faced with this
dilemma of trying to cast

A, a good actor,

And also someone who did not
resemble the outgoing Doctor.

- You are a Time Lord?
- Yes!

And at the moment, a rather angry one!

I want to see the Cybermen dealt
with as much as the Time Lords do.

You weren't frightened, were you?

Frightened? No, of course not.
You can knock their heads off, you know.

I zapped the Cyber Controller
once, you know. And I enjoyed it.


BOTH: They're not so tough.

an essential Doctorness

that runs through all the Doctors.

And I thought it was a nice idea to
draw heavily on William Hartnell.

'Cause he was number one.
He was the guvnor.

-It is?
- Word for word.

And that quality of his,

of being a little bit, occasionally,

could be construed as being unpleasant.

You don't even know what a peri is,
do you, Peri?


I'll tell you.

A peri is a good and beautiful
fairy in Persian mythology.

The interesting thing is before
it became good, it was evil.

And that's what you are.

The most important thing
about the Sixth Doctor

was it was a very different beginning.

The regeneration was very
traumatic for him and so he...

He came out rather disturbed.




I wanted to draw on the alienness
as well, to make him more alien.

I mean, it was particularly important
coming straight after Peter.

Because Peter Davison had
been such a four-square fellow

and kind and gentle
and nice and accessible.

So, I mean, it seemed
sensible to make a contrast.


1t feels different this time.


As I remember, the regeneration sequence
was a very sort of

stressful, tense time, anyway.
I mean, it was emotional

in that Peter was leaving the show.
And it was emotional for Colin,

in that he was joining the show.

WOMAN: 173-D, take 2.

Oh, Doctor!

There must be something I can do.
Tell me!

It's too late.

Going soon.

It's time to say goodbye.

Then Peter is moved out and I have to
stay in the same position

and Colin is placed in.

MAN: So Nicola...

WOMAN: Are you playing it
down in the monitor here?

- I'm glad you know what you're doing.
- I'm going upstairs.

You're going to go scrabbling up
and you need to get to here.

- Like that, okay?
- Okay.

Directly behind his face there.
Thank you.

BRYANT: There was a lot of special
effects put onto Peter.

- Adric?
- You know that.

You mustn't die, Doctor.

MASTER: No, my dear Doctor,
you must die.

Die, Doctor!

Die, Doctor!

Basically, then, the new Doctor steps
into the shoes of the old doctor

by re-emerging in exactly the same spot.


DICKS: The thing I always remember
is how long everything seemed fo take.

It was such an incredibly
drawn-out process, I mean,

how much did we get out
of a typical studio day?

Well, if you work it out, we...

Each episode was meant to be
24 and a half minutes long.

And you reckon one day of film
per episode,

exterior film, location film...
It wasn't always, but..

DICKS: But on average.
LETTS: On average,

which would be three to five
minutes maximum.

So, yes, we were trying to
get 20 to 22 minutes

shot in one day in the studio.

And of course it was always complicated
with Who because we'd got

the special effects.
We were very keen on using

chroma key, most of the world calls it

And the BBC always insists on calling it
Colour Separation Overlay, CSO.

The blue screen process, so as
you can put backgrounds in.

There was an awful lot of patience
needed for those special effects.

Because they could go
right the first time

or they could go right
not until the 46th time.

MAN: Keep going, Liz.

SLADEN: You really had to know where you
were, no messing about at rehearsals

at some point, because
once you were on the studio floor,

the special effects had to
be the first consideration.

Rehearsals, they were always fun.
They were always wonderful fun.

We didn't have to think of normal
things. We were saving the universe.

This is the Doctor,

president-elect of the
High Council of Time Lords,

keeper of the Legacy of Rassilon,

defender of the Laws of Time,

protector of Gallifrey.

I call upon you to surrender
the Hand of Omega

and return to your
customary time and place.

Ah, Doctor!

You have changed again?

We wanted to bring back the mystery.

So that's why... Because we thought
too much had been

told about the Doctor.

And also the slight danger...

In the end, you are
merely another Time Lord.

Oh, Davros,

I am far more
than just another Time Lord.

And I wanted to bring back the anger
of the first Doctor, he was a crabby

old man when he arrived.
And I thought that was rather good.

But I wanted to mix them
all up and make this cake.

We all have a universe
of our own terrors to face.

I face mine on my own terms.

But don't you want to
know what happened here?


You've learned something
you didn't recognise when you were 13.

Like what?

The nature of the horror
that you sensed here.

That's alien.

Ace's character was very different,
as far as I was concerned,

from any other companion
that had gone before.

When I first read the script I thought,
"This is a bit different.

"She doesn't scream and
she's got a Cockney accent

"and she's a bit street cred and tough."

There. You should be able to
get up and walk about now.

Cheers, Professor.

McCOY: The thing about being a Time
Lord is when I was being a Time Lord,

we were never given enough time.

Time was always the
thing that you really wanted.

That was the luxury that we begged for.
We didn't want more money,

we wanted more time.
Just to get in the can.

And we used to regularly...
We'd come towards the end of the story,

at the end of the shoot,
we'd be in the studio.

And it would become panic.
"We've got to get this in in one."

"No, no. We want it in in half!"

Hang on, Ace!

It was a frantic day.

And we'd been really rushing because
we had to get the tank done in this day.

And I rushed over to the water tank

and kind of got in it

Had a quick test The visual
effects guys were up on the fop,

pumping water in over my head.

"Doctor, look out."
Then the Doctor comes in, all right?

McCOY: And I was running up
and banging on this...

I mean, she's screaming
and all this stuff.

Suddenly I realised
that the glass was bulging.

And I just felt under my hands this

A crack.


McCOY: Shit, get her out!
WOMAN: Get her out of there.

McCOY: Move back, the water will...
MAN 2: Everybody get back.

MAN 1: Move back!
MAN 2: Get the pump in!

But it was actually Sylvester
who saved my life because

nobody really realised what
was happening and he shouted,

"Get her out of there!"
And they reached down and grabbed me.

That was the only time
I've ever been heroic in my life.

Except when I was acting. (CHUCKLES)

Some people call it acting.

What am I doing? I've got to stop.

- We've got to go!
- We can't go.

- Not this time.
- Yes, we can!

Escape to what?
I don't choose to live as an animal.

If we fight,
we will destroy this planet.

NARRATOR: The series finished
in December '89.

we'll destroy ourselves!

NARRATOR: The Doctor lives on in videos,
novels and comics.

But the fans still campaign
for new television adventures.

If we fight like animals,
we'll die like animals!

I think the Seventh Doctor and Ace
are a very successful combination,

which is why we use
them in the comic strip.

They're very popular with fans.

They're popular with older fans who like
sort of the mysteriousness of the Doctor

and the younger ones
who really latch on to Ace.

They're a good combination.

I also feel that a great
many people think that

Sylvester McCoy and
Sophie Aldred did not have

a good enough innings,
if you like, on television.

Sylvester always says that
he's the last person to hear about

everything to do with
Doctor Who and then he tells me.

And it was true in this case that I was
actually rehearsing for Corners

one day at the BBC
and got a phone call through

from Sylvester, who said,
"Are you sitting down?"

And then he told me that
it had been cancelled.

And suddenly they came along and said,
"No, we're not doing it. Stopping it."

And so I was slightly annoyed.
I also thought it was a shame, really.

Very short sighted.

I felt like I could run forever.

Like I could smell the wind
and feel the grass under my feet

and just run forever!

The planet's gone.
But it lives on inside you.

It always will.


And the Master?

Who knows?

Where to now, Ace?

- Home.
- Home?

- The Tardis.
- Yes, the Tardis.

DOCTOR: There are worlds out there
where the sky is burning,

where the sea's asleep
and the rivers dream,

people made of smoke
and cities made of song.

Somewhere there's danger,
somewhere there's injustice,

and somewhere else
the tea's getting cold.

Come on, Ace.
We've got work to do.


Well that's it. Doctor Who.

Thirty years, who would have thought it?

Things come back to haunt you
just when you least expect it.

Go! Now!

DALEK: Do not move!

You are my prisoners!

The Daleks have command of the Tardis!

THIRD DOCTOR: # I cross the void
beyond the mind

# The empty space that circles time

# I see where others stumble blind

# To seek a truth they never find

# Eternal wisdom is my guide

# I am the Doctor

# Through cosmic waste the Tardis flies

# To taste the secret source of life

# A presence science can't deny exists
Within, outside, behind

# The latitude of human minds

# I am the Doctor

# My voyage dissects the course of time

# "Who knows?" you say
But are you right?

# Who searches deep to find the light?

# That glows so darkly in the night

# Toward that point I guide my flight

# As fingers move fo end mankind

# Metallic teeth begin their grind

# With sword of truth I turn to fight

# The satanic powers of the night

# Is your faith before your mind?

# Know me
Am I the Doctor? #




MAN: Right, waiting patiently,
thank you.

He's a different person.

You got enough?

INTERVIEWER: We understand that you're
in negotiations with Steven Spielberg

for the future of Doctor Who.

You may well think that
but I couldn't possibly comment.

You know what these things are like.

You know there's
endless discussions, negotiations.

You know what
the American networks are like.

You know what Hollywood is like.
You know what the BBC is like.

You can't trust anyone.

These things take a while.
So there are no promises.

DALEK: Stand still

All allies of the Doctor beware!

The Daleks have returned.

DALEKS: We shall return!
We shall return!

We shall return! We shall return!

We shall return!


It's good isn't it, hmm?