Bryn & Stephanie (2021) - full transcript
Bryn thought he'd met the one when he was introduced to Stephanie, but as Nev and Kamie poke holes in Stephanie's story, Bryn begins to doubt his dreams, especially when a surprise call threatens to end their whole relationship.
- Bryn has been talking
to Stephanie for a year.
- If somebody can stimulate
my brain
and my heart
just through a phone call,
I can imagine
what it can be in person.
- He said she was staying
at the hotel.
- [gasps]
- Let's give 'em a call
and ask for Stephanie.
- Wow, when you can't go up
to doors and knock on 'em,
you sure find other ways
to be invasive.
- What the [bleep]?
- Whoa.
- Oh, [bleep] me.
- Calling all Kamies.
Calling all Kamies.
A catfish case and need you
to report to Zoom ASAP.
Oh, there she is. Ready.
Hello?
[upbeat music]
- You know how long it takes
to find
the damn investigator emoji?
- Did you update your phone?
- I don't believe in updates.
- Ah, well, then don't complain
about not having a way
to search for emojis,
'cause in the new update,
you can just search.
- I'll learn about it
on Twitter later.
Where are you?
- Now that I'm back
in New York, luckily,
my brother and Henry
have a really cool
little production office.
- The "Catfish" OGs.
- Exactly. The original
"Catfish" documentary
started in the office
that I shared with my brother
and Henry.
So now in a weird way,
it's kind of amazing
to be back in this HQ.
- Oh...
- Anyway, let's open
the old email.
All right, we got
an email here from Bryn.
It says, "I really
want to see her."
"Hello. My name is Bryn.
I'm a 23-year-old guy/
"And I'm living
in South Carolina.
"I hope it's okay to tell you
that I only saw the show
"for the first time
a few days ago
and that I'm hoping
you can help me."
Wow, a newcomer.
- I'll give you a pass, Bryn.
- "I met this girl,
Stephanie from Washington
"about a year ago
through a mutual friend.
"She's my age
and a traveling nurse.
We talk on the phone
all the time."
[line trilling]
"I'm really into her."
- ♪ Oh, it's like
the stars aligned ♪
- "She's beautiful and caring
'and our phone conversations
are incredible.
"I'd like to take our
relationship
"to the next level.
"But she's so busy
with the pandemic,
"we haven't been able to meet.
"I get that she's busy, but we
also haven't video chatted,
"and I'm extremely frustrated.
"I believe that Stephanie
is who she says she is,
"but I'm tired of not
being able to see her.
"I know her traveling nurse
life is stressful right now,
"so I'm okay waiting
a little longer for a visit.
"But I hope you can help me
convince her
"that a FaceTime call
isn't asking too much.
"I've never felt this way
about anyone before,
"and I'm desperate
to finally meet her.
Thank you for your time, Bryn."
Wow. So, first of all, we get
a lot of "nurses" on the show.
- A lot.
- What's better than being
a nurse?
A traveling nurse
- During a pandemic.
- Your work schedule's
already hectic,
so it's very hard to get--
Where are you? Are you busy?
Are you gonna be able
to come down?
I just got called.
I got to travel to be a nurse.
This is a new one.
- Mm-hmm.
- Well, let's--let's text Bryn.
See if he could tell us a bit
more about this Stephanie.
- I mean, not FaceTiming.
It's the most simple thing.
Searching emojis
is very difficult
but hitting the FaceTime button
is instantaneous.
- Oh, he wrote back.
He said, "Okay, cool."
[computer chimes]
- Hey.
- Hey, guys.
- What's up, Bryn?
I like all your tchotchkes.
Is that
your personal collection,
or are you
at your family's house?
- This is
my grandmother's house.
I just moved back here
from Spartanburg,
like, six months ago,
and I'm still deciding on
where I want to go next.
- What was going
on in "Spartansburg"?
- That's where me and my
ex-girlfriend moved to.
- Ooh.
- Oh, wait.
So if you just moved back
six months ago,
does that mean you only
broke up six months ago?
- Basically. Right.
- You said you've been talking
to Stephanie, like, a year.
- Yeah.
- Ah.
- Ah, whatever. You're 23.
You're supposed to be
figuring stuff out.
Tell us about Stephanie.
Take us back to the beginning
and kind of give us
the tour.
- All right. So there's this
is this guy, Isaax, on TikTok
and he's always, like,
my positive attitude,
and he's always uplifting me,
and Isaax messaged me.
He was like,
"I've got my friend
Stephanie who I think
you would look good with."
So I was like, "Well,
send me pictures of her."
And he sent me pictures
of her.
I was like, "Yeah."
I was like,
"Give her my number.
She's very attractive."
- And Isaax,
you know him in person?
- No.
- Just through TikTok,
and he's on my Snapchat.
- Got it.
- So I give him my number,
and then when she called me,
it came up
on a blocked number.
We talk.
And it was kind of,
like, introducing ourselves,
you know, what we're about.
And it basically it
just went from there--
us talking more regularly.
And when you got somebody
to talk to that cares
about your feelings, I mean,
it kind of makes you realize
what you actually deserve,
you know what I mean?
- Right.
How often are you guys talking?
- It really just depends.
She says she works like 12-
to 16-hour shifts.
Well, I guess twice a day.
- So wait a second.
So do you even have her number
at this point?
- No, it's literally a blocked
number every single time.
- Do you guys text?
- Never text message.
Never a FaceTime call.
- What?
- She has to call you?
You can't even call her?
- Yes.
- Oh, my God.
- From a blocked number
every time?
- Yes, she says
it's her work phone
and that's the only phone
she has
and that she can't give out
her work phone number.
- Oh, my God.
- So what happens
if you're busy,
you get a call
from no caller ID?
- I mean, I'm not gonna miss
the phone call.
I only get to talk to her
when she calls me,
you know what I mean?
- So you just have
to drop everything.
- Basically.
- Oh, my God.
- And she says that she can't
send or receive pictures
from her work phone--
I just kind of rolled with it.
- So wait. So the only pictures
you've seen
are the ones
that Isaax sent you?
- Correct. She said that
she doesn't like social media
because it's drama.
- What 22-year-old girl
doesn't have a personal phone,
a Snapchat, a Instagram?
- She's telling me that she
has, like, "no friends
that she could
FaceTime me off of"
or send pictures
with, you know what I mean?
- Yeah.
- Like, something just kind of
does not add up to me.
- So what do you know
about her?
- She's 22.
She's from Moses Lake,
Washington.
- Washington state, okay.
- Yeah.
She grew up, not so good
family life, just like I did.
My--my grandparents adopted me
when I was three months old.
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah.
- So Stephanie's also had
some issues with her family.
So you guys obviously
relate on that.
- Look, honestly, when we talk,
it's really about how life
has affected us,
how we can better ourselves.
I mean, she really just listens
to whatever I've got to say,
and I do the same for her.
If somebody can simulate
my brain and my heart,
like,
just through a phone call,
I can imagine
what it can be in person.
- Where would you say you're at
with your feelings?
How do you feel towards her?
- I ain't never had, like,
a connection
with somebody
who I can just talk to.
Like, two months in, I did say,
"I love you."
- Wow.
- She said it back?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
- So do you guys now say
"I love you,"
like,
when you are on the phone?
- Yeah, I really do care
for her
and I want to see
where things could go.
When we talk late at night,
you know,
sometimes we'll get intimate.
- How intimate?
- How intimate is intimate?
- That's what I'm asking you.
- You know, you talk for a year
on the phone late at night,
you know, talking
to the jibber jabber.
- Oh, is that what it's called?
- That's what I'ma call it.
- The jibber jabber.
[laughter]
- What about, like--
have you guys
talked about meeting up?
- I've asked to do it,
and every time it's,
"I'm working but whenever
I get a month off,
we can do something."
- But you guys have been
talking for a year now,
so she's
got to be due, right?
- And it's not happened
one time.
- I'm interested in seeing
what Stephanie looks like,
because is she, like, a nurse
or is she, like,
a Blink-182 cover art nurse?
- Do you still have
her pictures?
- Yeah, you want to see 'em?
- Yeah, I want to see 'em.
- Oh, yeah.
- Here we go.
- Mm.
- Cute. She's got
a little Latin flavor.
- Mm-hmm.
- She's cute.
She looks like
a normal, beautiful girl.
- And the voice matches
how she looks.
- Now, wait a second.
What about Isaax?
How does he factor into this?
'Cause aren't you
still friends with him?
- Honestly, we haven't talked
for the longest,
but we still have each other
on social media.
- Have you ever talked to him
about Stephanie
and, like, found out more?
- Not really.
- Not really.
- How does he say
that he knows Stephanie?
- He just said
they were friends.
I really didn't get into
the backstory of it.
- Is there any chance
that it is Isaax?
- I would flip the hell out.
- Some guy you know through
social media just wants
to set you up
with this beautiful girl
but you can't FaceTime
with her,
she has no social media.
- I've heard his voice, though.
- And he's talked to Stephanie
on the phone,
so you would know
if you're talking to a girl.
- Is there any chance
that it could be your ex?
- No, their voices
are different.
- All right, all right. Okay.
What do you want us to do?
Because you don't even have
a phone number.
- You got your work cut out
for you, I know.
- I mean,
I guess you have her name
and some photos,
but this is a real challenge.
- I'm just really hoping
y'all can help me
get to the bottom of this
so I can figure out
if I need to go on with my life
or put more time into this,
you know what I mean?
- For sure.
All right, so sit tight.
Let us do some research.
I'm hoping that we can find
something
in the next few hours,
and then we'll report back,
and we'll let you know
what we got.
- Awesome. Thank you, guys.
It was a pleasure
talking to you.
- Thanks Bryn.
I'm sorry.
The whole caller ID [bleep].
- Crazy.
- What?
- But also feel like Bryn's,
like, a hot guy.
He's finally starting to get to
the age where he's, like,
realizing
what he actually wants
is someone he can connect with
who--who's caring
and listens to him.
And Stephanie
is providing that.
- He's looking for more
than just jibber jabber...
- [laughs]
- Now.
- He's got a year of his life
and a lot
invested in this girl.
We got to find something.
- All right, we got
a serious situation.
Bryn was set up with Stephanie
from one of Bryn's
internet friends, Isaax.
Brynn doesn't even
really know Isaax,
and Isaax's setting
Bryn up with Stephanie
so there's, like, three
degrees
of internet intricacy here.
But long story short,
now it's been a year.
Stephanie is a traveling nurse.
She only has her work phone.
So she can't give
that number out,
which doesn't really
make sense, right?
- No.
- Clearly, there's something
bogus about this girl,
because after a year
of talking to this guy,
there is no excuse
why she hasn't been able to
at least video chat.
- Fishy.
- All right.
So let me check
the email here.
"Hey, guys. All I know about
Stephanie is that her name
"is Stephanie [bleep].
She's 22 and is from
Moses Lake, Washington."
Well, that's
a probably small area.
"Guy who introduced us
"is Isaax, and I follow him
on TikToK and Snapchat.
"I hope you guys can find
something out about her.
Thank you for your help."
And the pictures.
All right. So what do you want
to start with?
Image search?
- Yes.
- All right,
let's get it out of the way.
Here we go. I'm going
to start with this one.
All right, so nothing there.
Blonde in this one.
No. No hits on these pictures.
- That's an old picture.
But I feel like
all of these photos
are old, from the filtering
that's on them.
- Right, right.
- The style.
- All right. So no surprise.
No hits on the pictures.
So what do we want to do?
We want to just go to Facebook
and look her up?
- Yes.
- All right.
Let's do a little search here
for Stephanie [bleep].
And then let's do city
Moses Lake, Washington.
What? Come on. Too easy.
- [gasps]
- There's a Stephanie [bleep]
who works at McDonald's.
- Wow.
- Is that her?
- This is her. This is her.
That's her smile.
- Does that look like her?
- Yes.
- But this is--oh, my God.
This hasn't been used
since 2013,
which feels kind of weird,
right?
- Yeah.
- We found an old,
defunct Facebook page,
which is something.
- Yeah.
- All right.
So what are we doing?
So we have some loose leads
on a Stephanie [bleep]
in Moses Lake.
So that leaves us
basically with Isaax.
- I mean how far-fetched is it
to think that Isaax saw Bryn,
thought Bryn
was an attractive guy
and made up this girl
to, like, get him interested?
- But they're talking
on the phone.
Let's see if we can find
this guy on Facebook.
All right.
So let's look up Isaax.
We're gonna finding out
a little bit more
about this guy.
- Oh, there he is. Number one
in Moses Lake, Washington.
- You got to be kidding me.
He's from the same exact town,
a tiny town.
First of all,
let's just get a sense
of Moses Lake, Washington.
What are we talking
about here?
Wow. I mean, they are
out there.
20,000 people.
- That's very small.
- All right,
so here's our guy.
He's in a relationship.
He just posted
a couple days ago.
A lot of pictures of him,
but, I mean,
he seems very much in love.
Very happy.
So that's promising.
- Mm.
Don't get ahead of yourself.
- Look, maybe they know
each other in real life.
If Isaax and Stephanie
are from the same small town,
then you would think that
they actually know each other.
So this should be easy.
He should be able to tell us
more about Stephanie.
- Yeah.
- All right, I'm just
sending him this message.
"Hey, Isaax.
I'm helping your friend Bryn
out with his friend
Stephanie
and could use your help."
All right.
I mean, I don't know.
This guy seems
pretty legit to me, right?
- I mean, I'm pretty sure
this is his account
but I think Isaax has been
shady from the beginning.
There's just something
weird about it.
I just don't--how are you
playing matchmaker for someone
that you barely know
to someone that you might know?
- Oh, wait a second.
I got a message.
- [gasps]
- Oh, he wrote back.
Although I think he thinks
this is a joke.
He wrote, "Funny. Who is this?
[chuckles]
It's Nev from "Catfish."
Jump in our Zoom,
and I'll prove it
and explain everything.
- Don't ask any questions.
Just join the Zoom.
[computer chimes]
- Oh, wait a second.
It worked. Hello.
- Hey.
- How's it going?
- Isaax, what's up?
- Is this for real right now?
- You thought it was
bull[bleep].
I know. I would, too.
- Here's what we're doing.
You introduced
your internet friend
Bryn to a girl named Stephanie
about a year ago.
Do you remember that?
- Yes
- So I don't know if you
followed up
with either of them
that much about it,
but they've been talking,
and it's been going well.
- Okay.
- But here's the snag.
Stephanie's been
very sort of shady.
She's never given Bryn
her number.
She always just calls him
from a blocked number.
He's been wanting
to meet up with her,
and she's always too busy,
and he's just starting
to wonder
if she is who she says she is.
- Okay.
- And you are the closest link
we have to Stephanie
because you introduced them
so we just wanted to know
how you know Stephanie.
- We're pretty close.
I've known her 'cause she's
actually from my hometown.
- Well, that makes sense.
- Long story short,
I ended up talking to him,
and I said,
"Hey, I have a friend.
She's single."
And I pretty much, you know,
got them to talk
but I haven't really kept up.
- So you and Stephanie are
actual friends from Moses Lake,
and you spend time
together in person?
- Yeah, it's--I mean,
it's been a while
because she works a lot.
- But you still live
in Moses Lake?
- Yeah, yeah.
- And she still does,
too, right?
- No, but right now
she's in town visiting family.
I do know that she's staying
at the [bleep] Hotel.
- So she's from your hometown,
but do you know
where you met her
the first time?
- Yeah, we met
at some apartments
that my friend used to live
at--we met at a party.
- When did you meet Stephanie?
- I would say, like,
ten years ago, nine years ago.
- Wait. But she's only 22,
and you met her
nine years ago at a party?
- Yeah, people party down here.
It's like Mexico.
- All right, I mean,
do you have her phone number?
- Yeah.
- Whoa. Really?
Bryn said she only
has a work phone,
and she can't give out
the number.
- I'm not quite sure.
- So she has a cell phone.
Not just a work phone.
- Yeah.
- And I know you guys
are old friends,
but, like,
I don't see any reason
why she couldn't give
that number to Bryn.
- I'm not sure.
- Okay.
Well, I mean,
do you mind sharing
Stephanie's number with us?
- I can definitely contact her,
but I feel like
if Stephanie wanted Bryn
to have her number,
then he would have it,
so I definitely need to talk
to Stephanie
and see what's going on.
- Time is of the essence, okay?
So get in touch with Stephanie.
Let her know we're trying
to just help them meet up
and encourage her
to reach out to us.
- Okay.
- I'll message you right now
with my phone number.
- Okay, perfect.
- Well, thanks, Isaax.
Hopefully, we'll hear
from you soon or Stephanie.
- All right. Thanks, guys.
- Okay.
- Thanks, Isaax.
- Uh-huh. Bye.
- Bye.
- Okay.
- I don't trust him
for [bleep].
I don't trust him.
I don't trust him at all.
- Well, here's what we're going
to do right now.
He said she was staying
at that hotel, [bleep].
- [laughs]
- Moses Lake...
There's a [bleep].
- Okay.
- All right, let's give 'em
a call and ask
for Stephanie [bleep].
- [gasps] Nev.
- I mean,
if she's staying there...
- Wow. When you can't go up
to doors and knock on 'em,
you sure find other ways
to be invasive.
[line trilling]
- [softly] Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
- Hey, can you connect me to
Stephanie [bleep] room, please?
Yep. Thanks.
[line trilling]
[mouths words]
- [laughs]
What are you gonna say?
- I don't know.
I didn't expect there would be
a person with that name
registered in that hotel.
- Oh, my God.
[line trilling]
- Well, probably not home
right now.
- The fact
that he connected it.
- I hung up
because I don't think
they're going to answer it
but wait a second.
So that means that there is
a Stephanie [bleep]
staying at the [bleep].
- But we don't know
what she looks like.
- Right.
But that at least makes me
believe
Isaax a little bit more.
- I don't know.
7I met her at a house party
when she was 12"?
- I know. Come on.
Well, now I don't know
what to think
because it looks like
there might actually be
a Stephanie [bleep]
at the [bleep] Hotel.
Now, is that the girl
in the pictures?
- [imitates buzzer sounding]
- I think we got to give Bryn
an update
and just cross our fingers
that Isaax is telling the truth
and does contact Stephanie
and that we hear from her.
- I'm sure we'll be hearing
from someone,
but I bet it won't be the girl
in the pictures.
- Let's give Bryn an update.
See what he thinks
about all this.
"Hey, buddy...
- I don't know. I feel like
if Bryn wasn't weary before,
he definitely has reason
to be now.
Something is not right.
[computer chimes]
Hey.
- What's up, guys?
- How are you?
- I'm doing pretty good.
- You haven't heard
from Stephanie
at all today, have you?
- No.
- No anonymous calls?
- Nope.
- All right.
Well, we did a lot of digging.
Found a couple little things.
Not sure exactly what it
all means yet.
- Okay.
- So here, I'm going to
share my screen.
All right.
So we went on Facebook
and just did a search
for Stephanie [bleep].
This is what came up.
Someone named
Stephanie [bleep]
from Moses Lake, Washington.
- Okay.
- But this profile hasn't been
used since 2013.
- I mean,
it kind of looks like her.
- Kind of looks like her.
- I mean, it's hard to tell.
Seven years
is a big difference.
- Right. So to me,
the fact that this exists
could be evidence
that she exists
and is likely the same
as the girl in the pictures.
The question is, is that
who you're talking to?
I don't know.
- Right.
- So that essentially
brings us now
to where we ended,
which is Isaax.
We found Isaax's Facebook
page, okay?
- Mm-hmm.
- And we were looking
just to get a sense
of who this guy is
because he's at the center
of this whole thing.
- He's the one that made
it happen.
- Yeah, we just went
through his page.
We saw that he's got
a very serious boyfriend.
- Okay.
Did y'all talk to Isaax?
- We did. I messaged him.
He did come in the Zoom,
and we talked to him.
- It was weird.
It was weird to me.
He says that he met Stephanie
at a house party ten years ago.
Ten years ago
she would have been how old?
Everyone, math class.
- 12 years old.
- Yeah.
- Right.
- At a house party?
- Exactly.
But he says that
they've been friends ever since
and that they keep in touch
and that they're pretty close
and he knows that she's in town
right now
staying at
a very specific hotel.
But he wouldn't give us
Stephanie's number
when we asked.
It just sounded
like a bunch of crap to me.
- Right. So did he say he was
going to talk to her or...?
- He said he was going
to get in touch
with her and let her know.
I mean, the whole thing
is weird, obviously.
This guy, Isaax,
I want to believe him.
- Mm-hmm.
- I don't.
- Sounds very sketchy to me.
- Right.
- Go on there, Georgie.
- Even the dog's coming in
for assistance.
- Now here's the [bleep]
crazy part.
- Oh, hell.
- The second we hang up
with Isaax,
I called that hotel
in Moses Lake.
The front-desk guy answered,
and I said,
"Hey, can you connect
to Stephanie [bleep], please?"
And he said, "Okay, hold on."
And then connected me
to a room.
Now, no one answered,
but presumably there is a guest
at that hotel
named Stephanie [bleep].
- Stephanie [bleep].
Right.
- 'Cause otherwise the guy
would have come back
on the phone
and been like, "I'm sorry.
I don't have a guest
under that name."
So now I'm all messed up
because if there is a
Stephanie [bleep] at the hotel,
that means that he was telling
the truth at least about that,
which now makes me wonder
what else he might be
telling the truth about.
- I'm, like,
mind-boggled right now.
- We are no closer to knowing
that it's not her.
We also really don't have
any strong evidence
that it is her at this point.
The only way we're getting
in touch with Stephanie
is if she either calls you
or Isaax speaks to her.
And it sounds like Isaax
is sort of the gatekeeper,
so we're kind of
at his mercy right now.
- Right.
- So I think
we should just message
Isaax one more time
and let them know
that we're still waiting.
I just said, "Hey, Isaax.
Let me know once
you've talked to Stephanie."
All right, I'm sending it.
Now we wait.
- It just doesn't
look good to me.
I don't know how you feel.
- I don't know
how to feel right now.
I feel flabbergasted,
honestly.
I don't even know
whether to trust her or not.
- Yeah, I mean, we'll just have
to check in in the morning
and see what we got.
- All right. Thank you, guys.
Y'all have a good night.
- Try to get some rest.
- I will.
[cell phone ringing]
- Hello?
Yeah, hi. Who's this?
- Hey, Stephanie.
How you doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.
- Yeah. So Bryn reached out,
because as you know,
you guys have been talking now
for a while,
and he felt like
sometime in that year,
you might've been able to
FaceTime or maybe even meet up.
I know it's been a crazy year,
but he was just wondering
if we could help organize,
like, a video chat.
- Okay. Wow. Okay.
- Yeah, look,
I understand that.
Okay.
- I mean, it's not really
so much us.
- Just tell the truth.
- Bryn's been opening up to you
and making time for you
for the last year,
and he just deserves to know
where that's going
or if it's going anywhere.
And I think for him,
part of that is seeing
and hearing you tell him
whatever it is
you feel he should know, and
in this case, it might just be
that you're in a relationship
that's going well
and that you're not interested
in pursuing anything with him
so that he can go pursue
someone else.
- Yeah.
Bye.
[dramatic music]
- Wow.
- I mean, I'm--I don't know.
- My first thought was,
"This is an older woman."
Like, this is a grown woman
Yeah.
- I was like,
"Okay, this person is not 22."
- That sounds like Bryn's
about to get his heart broken
is what it sounds like.
- Well...
- Great. Well, this is going to
make tomorrow very interesting.
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
"Kamie.
I've got an update."
Where you at, girl?
[computer chimes]
There she is. Listen to this.
I have a text.
Hello, Nev. It's Stephanie.
I'm with my family.
So, if you need to reach me,
do not call.
Just text.
At least now
we've got a number.
- I don't know.
I'm still reeling
from that call last night
because I just feel a way.
Like, the way that Stephanie
was coming off felt very, like,
"You guys
are trying to ruin my family.
I participated willingly
and, like, sought him out,
but, like, don't take it
too far."
- Well, yeah. I mean, look,
you can't be surprised that
after a year
of talking to a guy--
well, having
romantic conversations,
I should say--
you can't be surprised
that he's trying to meet you
and, like, wants to FaceTime.
- Duh.
- All right.
Well, let's get Bryn back on.
Fill him in.
- Maybe he's heard
from Stephanie
- All right. Hey, Bryn...
All right, he said
he's hopping in.
[computer chimes]
There he is.
- Hello.
- How y'all doing today?
- Confused.
- Okay.
- Did you hear anything
from Stephanie?
- No. Nothing. Did you guys?
- We did.
- No way.
- So last night she called me.
And the gist of it
was that she said,
"I'm in a relationship.
And I'm happy.'
And she even said,
"And--and we have a family."
- Oh, wow.
- But then I was like,
"Okay, well, so do you want to
just tell him that?
Why don't you just, you know,
jump on a Zoom and..."
- Instead of carrying it on
for a year,
you know what I mean?
- Let him know what's up
so he can move on.
And then, you know,
she started getting vague.
"Well, I don't know.
"I don't know
if that's a good idea.
"I don't know if it's safe
for me,
or it could be bad
for my family."
And I didn't know what to say.
I said, "We owe it to Bryn
to at least tell him the truth,
however you think that's best."
- Yeah, tell me something.
- Right.
- At first, the conversation
on the phone felt
a little dismissive.
She was like,
"He's a young guy.
I don't know, like, what
he kind of thought this was."
And even the way
that she said that,
like, "He's a young guy,"
I don't feel like
a 22-year-old girl would say,
"He's a young guy.
Like, I don't know
what he thought this was."
I don't know how she speaks
on the phone with you.
- I mean, I've never really
gotten the notion
that she could be older.
You know, she's still sounds
like somebody
in their 20s would.
- 'Cause to me, she sounded
like a grown-ass woman.
- Really? That is crazy.
- Maybe she is the Stephanie
in the photos.
She's just older.
- Right.
- It would explain
the old photos.
The fact that Isaax said
that he met
Stephanie nine years ago.
- Mm-hmm.
- It all fits.
- And then this morning
we got a text.
"Hey, Nev. If you need to reach
me, here's my number.
"It's Stephanie.
I am with my family.
"So, if you do want
to reach me, don't call.
Please text."
So at least now
we have a number.
- How are you feeling?
- I don't know.
I don't even know what to say.
- ♪ Been playing with the
weight of the world ♪
♪ Inside my head ♪
I just want to know
what the hell's going on here.
- ♪ Praying for a change ♪
♪ I lay awake
all night again ♪
I just wanted to get down
to the bottom of it
and ask why.
What happened in your life
to make you want to do this?
You know what I mean?
'Cause obviously
you've been hurt before.
You're just an ass.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Electrified,
I'm just a light ♪
♪ Dimming in the dark ♪
- The fact that she texted
is an indication
that she's willing
to now engage.
So I can text her back now.
- Yeah.
- "Good morning.
"I'm hoping you have decided
to do the right thing.
Can you join our Zoom now?"
I know what her response
now will be.
She might be like, "Well, I'm
with my family. I can't Zoom."
But, like, step outside.
We only need five minutes.
Oh, oh, oh, she wrote back.
- Oh, wowza.
That's [bleep].
- "We'll take whatever
we can get."
- Are you guys sweating?
I'm sweating.
- Have you thought
about what you would say?
- I'm just sitting here
going, "I got no clue."
[computer chimes]
- Whoa.
Hey.
- Hi.
- What's up?
- I just wanted
to start off
and say that I wanted
to apologize to Bryn.
- Mm-hmm. Okay.
- I didn't think that
it was this serious.
I thought it was just,
like, flirty and having fun.
I didn't tell him the truth.
- Well, is there any way
you could show us your face?
- I don't know
if I can show my face.
I'm actually married.
- Wowza.
- And I'm older
than I told him.
I know that was a lie.
I do care about Bryn.
He's a great guy,
but our relationship
can't grow past this.
And I think this whole thing
is done now,
and I have to get back
to my marriage.
I mean, I think
that Bryn should move on.
- Well, do you have anything
to say to Bryn?
'Cause he's been talking to you
for a year,
and, you know, he's right here
and this is--
this is a big moment for him.
I know it's scary for you,
but it's also equally
just as scary for him.
- Um...
[sighs]
I mean, yeah, there's a lot,
you know,
that I do have to say.
Um...
[clears throat] Dude, I can't
[bleep] do this anymore.
I'm sorry.
- Wait, what just happened?
- What the [bleep]?
- [clears throat] Dude, I can't
[bleep] this anymore.
I'm sorry.
- Wait, what just happened?
- What was that?
- What the [bleep]?
- Is there any ways
I can talk to you guys alone?
- You mean just Kamie and I?
- Sure. Why the [bleep] not?
- Sure. All right,
so we're here to listen.
So, Bryn, why don't you
hang out for a second?
We'll put you in, like,
a waiting room.
- Yeah.
- And we'll talk to Stephanie
for a second
and see what's up.
- Sure. Why not?
[computer chimes]
- Okay. So now it's just us.
Stephanie, are you still there?
- Yes, I'm still here.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Ahh!
- Ah. Hi, guys.
- Wow.
- Hello, Isaax.
- Hi.
I just have to confess
that it's definitely me.
Obviously, me, clearly.
- Wait a second.
Who is that woman
that was just talking to us?
- That was my friend.
I really--I-I didn't want
to hurt Bryn.
I felt like it was less
embarrassing, like,
if it was to be a--like,
a woman, a married woman.
And I just didn't expect it
to get this far.
I didn't think that it was
going to end up like that.
- Right, but who did I talk
to last night?
Was that you, or was
that your friend?
- That was me.
- So it has been you
talking to Bryn
this whole time?
- It has.
- When your friend
started talking,
I felt like
Bryn would've noticed
if her voice was different,
but was she trying sort of do
a voice that you've been doing?
- That wasn't her talking.
That was me.
- Oh, that was you
talking off camera.
- Yes.
- What?
- I need evidence.
Where's the voice
that we heard last night?
- Did you want to meet
Stephanie?
- Yes, we want to meet
Stephanie
- [high-pitched voice] Hi, I'm
Stephanie, and how are you?
- Yeah, there it is.
- Kamie, you look
a little shocked?
- [squeals]
- We had a little bit
of a suspicion
that it could have been you,
but you seem so happy
and in love with your boyfriend
that we just figured
that it couldn't be.
- I am. I'm in
an open relationship
and so came across Bryn
and his TikToks,
and I didn't think
it was gonna progress.
I think the more
that I got to know him,
the more that I started
to fall for him
and the more that I started
to feel guilty.
So, with or without the show,
I was already planning
on ending things
because I felt
that it was getting
a little too out of hand
and a little too serious.
- Wait a second.
I called the hotel
after we spoke yesterday,
and I asked to be connected to
Stephanie [bleep]'s room.
Are you checked in
under Stephanie [bleep]?
Like, I'm just confused.
- No. I actually work here,
and I created the account.
- So you're not even
really checked in.
You just, like, put a room
under Stephanie [bleep]
'cause you can?
- Correct.
- Okay.
Well, that answers that.
Why take it
to such crazy lengths?
- I really care about him.
You know, he seems to be
an open-minded guy,
so I'm hoping that he maybe
can see that love is love.
- Still? You want to be
in a relationship with Bryn?
- I do.
- Isaax,
I just don't think
that it's fair to say,
well, love is love,
and he should just love me
as me, when you know that Bryn
is straight
and into heterosexual women.
And you also knew that
before creating Stephanie,
which is why you created
Stephanie in the first place.
- Well, I'm just hoping
for the best,
because I really feel
that my personality
is still the same personality.
I just--appearance-wise,
it's not.
- Wait, wait, you should be
telling all this to Bryn.
Why don't we just bring Bryn
back in
so he can hear all this?
- I'm just--I'm really
nervous, but okay.
- It's better for him to know
and to hear it from you,
and now's the moment.
So I'm going to bring him
back in the room,
and you'll just explain.
- Okay.
- All right.
Let's bring Bryn back in.
- He is going to be shocked.
♪ ♪
[computer chimes]
♪ ♪
- Oh, [bleep] me.
- Why don't we just bring Bryn
back in
so he can hear all of this?
- I'm just--I'm really
nervous, but okay.
[computer chimes]
- Isaax is the one you've been
talking to on the phone.
- Oh, [bleep] me.
- Hi, Bryn.
So, you know, I'm Stephanie.
- Who was that?
- The girl on the chair?
- Yeah.
- So that was my friend.
- I think the idea was, he
was hoping to play it off
like you were actually talking
with this married woman,
and that way, it would be
less embarrassing for you.
- That's just insane to me.
- But she wasn't
really talking.
It was Isaax's voice
off camera.
- Kind of blows my mind,
honestly.
- I just want to say that
my intentions weren't bad.
I didn't think it was
going to go this far.
And, you know, the more that
I got to see your social medias
and the more I got to know
you through that,
the more that I, like,
started to like you
and the more that I felt like
I started to fall for you.
- I don't even know how to feel
right now, dude.
Like, we told each other
so much [bleep].
It's probably made up
on your end.
- I'm still
the same person.
- You're not
the same person.
- I am the same person,
same personality.
Every time that I told you
I'd be supportive for you,
every time I told you
I'd be there for you,
that was me.
- Isaax was there,
not Stephanie.
- Right now I feel like
you're trying
to be brand-new
about the situation.
And, like, I'm telling you that
I'm putting my heart out there.
That was still me.
- I understand completely,
but that's not me,
you know what I mean?
Like, I don't--
- That's not you.
Okay, Bryn, really?
Like, let's keep it real.
I feel like Bryn
has given me mixed signals.
Like, you know, he has talked
to me as me as Isaax
and, I mean, he wanted to come
in my back door
and play in this mud,
so quit playing, Bryn.
You're acting real brand-new
right now, so...
- Listen here, I am comfortable
with sexuality.
- I'm a little confused.
Have you two had sexual
conversations as each other?
- No.
- In the very begi--yes.
In the very beginning,
there would be times
where he would forget to say
send this to Stephanie,
and it'd be
a shirtless picture.
So was that solely
for Stephanie?
And then he would be,
like, flirty.
- That's crazy.
- He definitely has sent,
like, kissy emojis.
Little kissy emojis when he's
telling me good night,
you know, as Isaax.
- I mean, look,
this does sound petty,
but, like, did you send him
a kissy-face emoji?
- I probably did.
[chuckles] I probably did.
- I feel like that's how
young guys texts these days.
What you take as flirty
is just me being who I am.
And the "conversations"
we would have late at night,
I would never have
those conversations with a man.
That's just personally not me.
- But, look-it, you did.
You did. I mean...
- Yeah, I did.
- And you got to see that
there was a personality
that could care
about you, like,
if you just
took away the image.
- Oh, if that's your real
personality as Stephanie,
then you have
a beautiful personality,
but doing things like that,
that [bleep] with somebody's
head and heart, man.
It's not cool.
- But, listen, Isaax, you had
your own friendship with Bryn.
You already had an opportunity
to see if he was interested
in you.
If he had been,
it would have happened.
Like, the opportunity
was there.
So, for you to say, "Well,
I just feel like he needed
to get to know my personality
better," is basically saying,
"I didn't like that
he wasn't interested in me,
so I wanted to make him
interested in me,"
and that's not okay.
- But, you know, like, okay,
look-it, in the past,
I've catfished,
and there has been incidences
where I go for straight guys.
And some of these guys
have got to know me as Isaax.
I came clean to them...
- Okay.
- And it ended up
being a relationship,
you know what I mean?
- Well, Isaax, even though
you've done it in the past
and it's worked out for you,
that doesn't make it right.
If you are talking to Bryn
and you know
that Bryn is talking to you
because he thinks
that you are a woman,
you are actively trying
to manipulate the situation
to get what you want.
If somebody is not into you,
you can't make them
be into you.
- Yeah. I mean, I can see
what you're saying.
I see it differently.
I just didn't see that
I was making him do anything.
- We know you see it
differently.
That's the problem.
Listen, I don't blame you
for falling in love with Bryn.
He's an attractive guy.
He's always
spreading positivity.
What's not to like?
But you can't be [bleep]
perpetuating the stereotype
that gay guys are out
to turn straight men.
Like, it's a stereotype
that's rooted
in lies and homophobia,
and we can't make anyone think
that it's even remotely true
when it's not.
- Right. I understand.
It's worked for me in the past.
So I guess
that's why I went this route.
And I know that some people
are not going to agree,
but let's keep it real.
Not all of us are gonna agree
on every single thing,
'cause what is love?
Love is what you make it.
It's your world. You create it.
But I do want to apologize.
I know that you were looking
for a woman.
I felt like that was a fantasy
I believe that I created.
But at the time
that's what seemed right to me.
And I'm sure it hurt you.
But I mean, I hope that we can,
you know, be friends.
- [sighs]
- We won't be talking
after this.
But I'll still be
on my Snapchat.
If you ever need anything,
I'll be there.
- Sounds good.
- Well, Isaax, look, now
he knows the truth.
You've come clean,
which I think you'll feel
better about,
and hopefully
this whole situation
can now be over with.
- I'm definitely going to
hang up Stephanie's heels.
It's definitely something
that I think I do need to do.
- Right.
- But if Bryn ever gets
that wild hair in his ass
and, you know, he wants to call
Stephanie, I'm still here.
Only for Bryn.
- Okay. Well, we'll give him
your number, so he has it.
Goodbye, Isaax.
- Bye, guys. Bye.
- Jesus.
- All right. Well, that's that.
- Oh, my God.
- Sorry it didn't work out
and that, you know,
this guy wasted your time.
- Are you gonna be okay?
- Yeah, I'll be straight.
I promise you I will never
be doing that again.
- Yeah.
- FaceTime, pictures.
I want to know.
- Yeah, a phone number.
How about to start there?
- Yeah, no [bleep]. This has
been an adventure, guys.
It was a pleasure
to meet y'all.
- Nice to meet you.
All the best.
- Thank y'all.
- Yeah.
- Thanks, Bryn. Good luck.
- ♪ And you keep on playing
games with me, games ♪
♪ And you always got to play
with me, play ♪
♪ And I hate the way you're
breaking and taking ♪
♪ You tell me you don't ♪
♪ Boy, you really ought to
knock it off right now ♪
- April got a message
from Daryl saying,
"I drew a picture
from your photos."
- The fact that somebody
is making drawings of me.
- You're his muse.
- He does say that to me.
- But you've never heard
his voice or seen him?
- No.
- I want to
search his profile.
- [gasps]
- Something is definitely up.
- I'm really freaking out.
[computer chimes]
Oh, my goodness.
to Stephanie for a year.
- If somebody can stimulate
my brain
and my heart
just through a phone call,
I can imagine
what it can be in person.
- He said she was staying
at the hotel.
- [gasps]
- Let's give 'em a call
and ask for Stephanie.
- Wow, when you can't go up
to doors and knock on 'em,
you sure find other ways
to be invasive.
- What the [bleep]?
- Whoa.
- Oh, [bleep] me.
- Calling all Kamies.
Calling all Kamies.
A catfish case and need you
to report to Zoom ASAP.
Oh, there she is. Ready.
Hello?
[upbeat music]
- You know how long it takes
to find
the damn investigator emoji?
- Did you update your phone?
- I don't believe in updates.
- Ah, well, then don't complain
about not having a way
to search for emojis,
'cause in the new update,
you can just search.
- I'll learn about it
on Twitter later.
Where are you?
- Now that I'm back
in New York, luckily,
my brother and Henry
have a really cool
little production office.
- The "Catfish" OGs.
- Exactly. The original
"Catfish" documentary
started in the office
that I shared with my brother
and Henry.
So now in a weird way,
it's kind of amazing
to be back in this HQ.
- Oh...
- Anyway, let's open
the old email.
All right, we got
an email here from Bryn.
It says, "I really
want to see her."
"Hello. My name is Bryn.
I'm a 23-year-old guy/
"And I'm living
in South Carolina.
"I hope it's okay to tell you
that I only saw the show
"for the first time
a few days ago
and that I'm hoping
you can help me."
Wow, a newcomer.
- I'll give you a pass, Bryn.
- "I met this girl,
Stephanie from Washington
"about a year ago
through a mutual friend.
"She's my age
and a traveling nurse.
We talk on the phone
all the time."
[line trilling]
"I'm really into her."
- ♪ Oh, it's like
the stars aligned ♪
- "She's beautiful and caring
'and our phone conversations
are incredible.
"I'd like to take our
relationship
"to the next level.
"But she's so busy
with the pandemic,
"we haven't been able to meet.
"I get that she's busy, but we
also haven't video chatted,
"and I'm extremely frustrated.
"I believe that Stephanie
is who she says she is,
"but I'm tired of not
being able to see her.
"I know her traveling nurse
life is stressful right now,
"so I'm okay waiting
a little longer for a visit.
"But I hope you can help me
convince her
"that a FaceTime call
isn't asking too much.
"I've never felt this way
about anyone before,
"and I'm desperate
to finally meet her.
Thank you for your time, Bryn."
Wow. So, first of all, we get
a lot of "nurses" on the show.
- A lot.
- What's better than being
a nurse?
A traveling nurse
- During a pandemic.
- Your work schedule's
already hectic,
so it's very hard to get--
Where are you? Are you busy?
Are you gonna be able
to come down?
I just got called.
I got to travel to be a nurse.
This is a new one.
- Mm-hmm.
- Well, let's--let's text Bryn.
See if he could tell us a bit
more about this Stephanie.
- I mean, not FaceTiming.
It's the most simple thing.
Searching emojis
is very difficult
but hitting the FaceTime button
is instantaneous.
- Oh, he wrote back.
He said, "Okay, cool."
[computer chimes]
- Hey.
- Hey, guys.
- What's up, Bryn?
I like all your tchotchkes.
Is that
your personal collection,
or are you
at your family's house?
- This is
my grandmother's house.
I just moved back here
from Spartanburg,
like, six months ago,
and I'm still deciding on
where I want to go next.
- What was going
on in "Spartansburg"?
- That's where me and my
ex-girlfriend moved to.
- Ooh.
- Oh, wait.
So if you just moved back
six months ago,
does that mean you only
broke up six months ago?
- Basically. Right.
- You said you've been talking
to Stephanie, like, a year.
- Yeah.
- Ah.
- Ah, whatever. You're 23.
You're supposed to be
figuring stuff out.
Tell us about Stephanie.
Take us back to the beginning
and kind of give us
the tour.
- All right. So there's this
is this guy, Isaax, on TikTok
and he's always, like,
my positive attitude,
and he's always uplifting me,
and Isaax messaged me.
He was like,
"I've got my friend
Stephanie who I think
you would look good with."
So I was like, "Well,
send me pictures of her."
And he sent me pictures
of her.
I was like, "Yeah."
I was like,
"Give her my number.
She's very attractive."
- And Isaax,
you know him in person?
- No.
- Just through TikTok,
and he's on my Snapchat.
- Got it.
- So I give him my number,
and then when she called me,
it came up
on a blocked number.
We talk.
And it was kind of,
like, introducing ourselves,
you know, what we're about.
And it basically it
just went from there--
us talking more regularly.
And when you got somebody
to talk to that cares
about your feelings, I mean,
it kind of makes you realize
what you actually deserve,
you know what I mean?
- Right.
How often are you guys talking?
- It really just depends.
She says she works like 12-
to 16-hour shifts.
Well, I guess twice a day.
- So wait a second.
So do you even have her number
at this point?
- No, it's literally a blocked
number every single time.
- Do you guys text?
- Never text message.
Never a FaceTime call.
- What?
- She has to call you?
You can't even call her?
- Yes.
- Oh, my God.
- From a blocked number
every time?
- Yes, she says
it's her work phone
and that's the only phone
she has
and that she can't give out
her work phone number.
- Oh, my God.
- So what happens
if you're busy,
you get a call
from no caller ID?
- I mean, I'm not gonna miss
the phone call.
I only get to talk to her
when she calls me,
you know what I mean?
- So you just have
to drop everything.
- Basically.
- Oh, my God.
- And she says that she can't
send or receive pictures
from her work phone--
I just kind of rolled with it.
- So wait. So the only pictures
you've seen
are the ones
that Isaax sent you?
- Correct. She said that
she doesn't like social media
because it's drama.
- What 22-year-old girl
doesn't have a personal phone,
a Snapchat, a Instagram?
- She's telling me that she
has, like, "no friends
that she could
FaceTime me off of"
or send pictures
with, you know what I mean?
- Yeah.
- Like, something just kind of
does not add up to me.
- So what do you know
about her?
- She's 22.
She's from Moses Lake,
Washington.
- Washington state, okay.
- Yeah.
She grew up, not so good
family life, just like I did.
My--my grandparents adopted me
when I was three months old.
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah.
- So Stephanie's also had
some issues with her family.
So you guys obviously
relate on that.
- Look, honestly, when we talk,
it's really about how life
has affected us,
how we can better ourselves.
I mean, she really just listens
to whatever I've got to say,
and I do the same for her.
If somebody can simulate
my brain and my heart,
like,
just through a phone call,
I can imagine
what it can be in person.
- Where would you say you're at
with your feelings?
How do you feel towards her?
- I ain't never had, like,
a connection
with somebody
who I can just talk to.
Like, two months in, I did say,
"I love you."
- Wow.
- She said it back?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
- So do you guys now say
"I love you,"
like,
when you are on the phone?
- Yeah, I really do care
for her
and I want to see
where things could go.
When we talk late at night,
you know,
sometimes we'll get intimate.
- How intimate?
- How intimate is intimate?
- That's what I'm asking you.
- You know, you talk for a year
on the phone late at night,
you know, talking
to the jibber jabber.
- Oh, is that what it's called?
- That's what I'ma call it.
- The jibber jabber.
[laughter]
- What about, like--
have you guys
talked about meeting up?
- I've asked to do it,
and every time it's,
"I'm working but whenever
I get a month off,
we can do something."
- But you guys have been
talking for a year now,
so she's
got to be due, right?
- And it's not happened
one time.
- I'm interested in seeing
what Stephanie looks like,
because is she, like, a nurse
or is she, like,
a Blink-182 cover art nurse?
- Do you still have
her pictures?
- Yeah, you want to see 'em?
- Yeah, I want to see 'em.
- Oh, yeah.
- Here we go.
- Mm.
- Cute. She's got
a little Latin flavor.
- Mm-hmm.
- She's cute.
She looks like
a normal, beautiful girl.
- And the voice matches
how she looks.
- Now, wait a second.
What about Isaax?
How does he factor into this?
'Cause aren't you
still friends with him?
- Honestly, we haven't talked
for the longest,
but we still have each other
on social media.
- Have you ever talked to him
about Stephanie
and, like, found out more?
- Not really.
- Not really.
- How does he say
that he knows Stephanie?
- He just said
they were friends.
I really didn't get into
the backstory of it.
- Is there any chance
that it is Isaax?
- I would flip the hell out.
- Some guy you know through
social media just wants
to set you up
with this beautiful girl
but you can't FaceTime
with her,
she has no social media.
- I've heard his voice, though.
- And he's talked to Stephanie
on the phone,
so you would know
if you're talking to a girl.
- Is there any chance
that it could be your ex?
- No, their voices
are different.
- All right, all right. Okay.
What do you want us to do?
Because you don't even have
a phone number.
- You got your work cut out
for you, I know.
- I mean,
I guess you have her name
and some photos,
but this is a real challenge.
- I'm just really hoping
y'all can help me
get to the bottom of this
so I can figure out
if I need to go on with my life
or put more time into this,
you know what I mean?
- For sure.
All right, so sit tight.
Let us do some research.
I'm hoping that we can find
something
in the next few hours,
and then we'll report back,
and we'll let you know
what we got.
- Awesome. Thank you, guys.
It was a pleasure
talking to you.
- Thanks Bryn.
I'm sorry.
The whole caller ID [bleep].
- Crazy.
- What?
- But also feel like Bryn's,
like, a hot guy.
He's finally starting to get to
the age where he's, like,
realizing
what he actually wants
is someone he can connect with
who--who's caring
and listens to him.
And Stephanie
is providing that.
- He's looking for more
than just jibber jabber...
- [laughs]
- Now.
- He's got a year of his life
and a lot
invested in this girl.
We got to find something.
- All right, we got
a serious situation.
Bryn was set up with Stephanie
from one of Bryn's
internet friends, Isaax.
Brynn doesn't even
really know Isaax,
and Isaax's setting
Bryn up with Stephanie
so there's, like, three
degrees
of internet intricacy here.
But long story short,
now it's been a year.
Stephanie is a traveling nurse.
She only has her work phone.
So she can't give
that number out,
which doesn't really
make sense, right?
- No.
- Clearly, there's something
bogus about this girl,
because after a year
of talking to this guy,
there is no excuse
why she hasn't been able to
at least video chat.
- Fishy.
- All right.
So let me check
the email here.
"Hey, guys. All I know about
Stephanie is that her name
"is Stephanie [bleep].
She's 22 and is from
Moses Lake, Washington."
Well, that's
a probably small area.
"Guy who introduced us
"is Isaax, and I follow him
on TikToK and Snapchat.
"I hope you guys can find
something out about her.
Thank you for your help."
And the pictures.
All right. So what do you want
to start with?
Image search?
- Yes.
- All right,
let's get it out of the way.
Here we go. I'm going
to start with this one.
All right, so nothing there.
Blonde in this one.
No. No hits on these pictures.
- That's an old picture.
But I feel like
all of these photos
are old, from the filtering
that's on them.
- Right, right.
- The style.
- All right. So no surprise.
No hits on the pictures.
So what do we want to do?
We want to just go to Facebook
and look her up?
- Yes.
- All right.
Let's do a little search here
for Stephanie [bleep].
And then let's do city
Moses Lake, Washington.
What? Come on. Too easy.
- [gasps]
- There's a Stephanie [bleep]
who works at McDonald's.
- Wow.
- Is that her?
- This is her. This is her.
That's her smile.
- Does that look like her?
- Yes.
- But this is--oh, my God.
This hasn't been used
since 2013,
which feels kind of weird,
right?
- Yeah.
- We found an old,
defunct Facebook page,
which is something.
- Yeah.
- All right.
So what are we doing?
So we have some loose leads
on a Stephanie [bleep]
in Moses Lake.
So that leaves us
basically with Isaax.
- I mean how far-fetched is it
to think that Isaax saw Bryn,
thought Bryn
was an attractive guy
and made up this girl
to, like, get him interested?
- But they're talking
on the phone.
Let's see if we can find
this guy on Facebook.
All right.
So let's look up Isaax.
We're gonna finding out
a little bit more
about this guy.
- Oh, there he is. Number one
in Moses Lake, Washington.
- You got to be kidding me.
He's from the same exact town,
a tiny town.
First of all,
let's just get a sense
of Moses Lake, Washington.
What are we talking
about here?
Wow. I mean, they are
out there.
20,000 people.
- That's very small.
- All right,
so here's our guy.
He's in a relationship.
He just posted
a couple days ago.
A lot of pictures of him,
but, I mean,
he seems very much in love.
Very happy.
So that's promising.
- Mm.
Don't get ahead of yourself.
- Look, maybe they know
each other in real life.
If Isaax and Stephanie
are from the same small town,
then you would think that
they actually know each other.
So this should be easy.
He should be able to tell us
more about Stephanie.
- Yeah.
- All right, I'm just
sending him this message.
"Hey, Isaax.
I'm helping your friend Bryn
out with his friend
Stephanie
and could use your help."
All right.
I mean, I don't know.
This guy seems
pretty legit to me, right?
- I mean, I'm pretty sure
this is his account
but I think Isaax has been
shady from the beginning.
There's just something
weird about it.
I just don't--how are you
playing matchmaker for someone
that you barely know
to someone that you might know?
- Oh, wait a second.
I got a message.
- [gasps]
- Oh, he wrote back.
Although I think he thinks
this is a joke.
He wrote, "Funny. Who is this?
[chuckles]
It's Nev from "Catfish."
Jump in our Zoom,
and I'll prove it
and explain everything.
- Don't ask any questions.
Just join the Zoom.
[computer chimes]
- Oh, wait a second.
It worked. Hello.
- Hey.
- How's it going?
- Isaax, what's up?
- Is this for real right now?
- You thought it was
bull[bleep].
I know. I would, too.
- Here's what we're doing.
You introduced
your internet friend
Bryn to a girl named Stephanie
about a year ago.
Do you remember that?
- Yes
- So I don't know if you
followed up
with either of them
that much about it,
but they've been talking,
and it's been going well.
- Okay.
- But here's the snag.
Stephanie's been
very sort of shady.
She's never given Bryn
her number.
She always just calls him
from a blocked number.
He's been wanting
to meet up with her,
and she's always too busy,
and he's just starting
to wonder
if she is who she says she is.
- Okay.
- And you are the closest link
we have to Stephanie
because you introduced them
so we just wanted to know
how you know Stephanie.
- We're pretty close.
I've known her 'cause she's
actually from my hometown.
- Well, that makes sense.
- Long story short,
I ended up talking to him,
and I said,
"Hey, I have a friend.
She's single."
And I pretty much, you know,
got them to talk
but I haven't really kept up.
- So you and Stephanie are
actual friends from Moses Lake,
and you spend time
together in person?
- Yeah, it's--I mean,
it's been a while
because she works a lot.
- But you still live
in Moses Lake?
- Yeah, yeah.
- And she still does,
too, right?
- No, but right now
she's in town visiting family.
I do know that she's staying
at the [bleep] Hotel.
- So she's from your hometown,
but do you know
where you met her
the first time?
- Yeah, we met
at some apartments
that my friend used to live
at--we met at a party.
- When did you meet Stephanie?
- I would say, like,
ten years ago, nine years ago.
- Wait. But she's only 22,
and you met her
nine years ago at a party?
- Yeah, people party down here.
It's like Mexico.
- All right, I mean,
do you have her phone number?
- Yeah.
- Whoa. Really?
Bryn said she only
has a work phone,
and she can't give out
the number.
- I'm not quite sure.
- So she has a cell phone.
Not just a work phone.
- Yeah.
- And I know you guys
are old friends,
but, like,
I don't see any reason
why she couldn't give
that number to Bryn.
- I'm not sure.
- Okay.
Well, I mean,
do you mind sharing
Stephanie's number with us?
- I can definitely contact her,
but I feel like
if Stephanie wanted Bryn
to have her number,
then he would have it,
so I definitely need to talk
to Stephanie
and see what's going on.
- Time is of the essence, okay?
So get in touch with Stephanie.
Let her know we're trying
to just help them meet up
and encourage her
to reach out to us.
- Okay.
- I'll message you right now
with my phone number.
- Okay, perfect.
- Well, thanks, Isaax.
Hopefully, we'll hear
from you soon or Stephanie.
- All right. Thanks, guys.
- Okay.
- Thanks, Isaax.
- Uh-huh. Bye.
- Bye.
- Okay.
- I don't trust him
for [bleep].
I don't trust him.
I don't trust him at all.
- Well, here's what we're going
to do right now.
He said she was staying
at that hotel, [bleep].
- [laughs]
- Moses Lake...
There's a [bleep].
- Okay.
- All right, let's give 'em
a call and ask
for Stephanie [bleep].
- [gasps] Nev.
- I mean,
if she's staying there...
- Wow. When you can't go up
to doors and knock on 'em,
you sure find other ways
to be invasive.
[line trilling]
- [softly] Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
- Hey, can you connect me to
Stephanie [bleep] room, please?
Yep. Thanks.
[line trilling]
[mouths words]
- [laughs]
What are you gonna say?
- I don't know.
I didn't expect there would be
a person with that name
registered in that hotel.
- Oh, my God.
[line trilling]
- Well, probably not home
right now.
- The fact
that he connected it.
- I hung up
because I don't think
they're going to answer it
but wait a second.
So that means that there is
a Stephanie [bleep]
staying at the [bleep].
- But we don't know
what she looks like.
- Right.
But that at least makes me
believe
Isaax a little bit more.
- I don't know.
7I met her at a house party
when she was 12"?
- I know. Come on.
Well, now I don't know
what to think
because it looks like
there might actually be
a Stephanie [bleep]
at the [bleep] Hotel.
Now, is that the girl
in the pictures?
- [imitates buzzer sounding]
- I think we got to give Bryn
an update
and just cross our fingers
that Isaax is telling the truth
and does contact Stephanie
and that we hear from her.
- I'm sure we'll be hearing
from someone,
but I bet it won't be the girl
in the pictures.
- Let's give Bryn an update.
See what he thinks
about all this.
"Hey, buddy...
- I don't know. I feel like
if Bryn wasn't weary before,
he definitely has reason
to be now.
Something is not right.
[computer chimes]
Hey.
- What's up, guys?
- How are you?
- I'm doing pretty good.
- You haven't heard
from Stephanie
at all today, have you?
- No.
- No anonymous calls?
- Nope.
- All right.
Well, we did a lot of digging.
Found a couple little things.
Not sure exactly what it
all means yet.
- Okay.
- So here, I'm going to
share my screen.
All right.
So we went on Facebook
and just did a search
for Stephanie [bleep].
This is what came up.
Someone named
Stephanie [bleep]
from Moses Lake, Washington.
- Okay.
- But this profile hasn't been
used since 2013.
- I mean,
it kind of looks like her.
- Kind of looks like her.
- I mean, it's hard to tell.
Seven years
is a big difference.
- Right. So to me,
the fact that this exists
could be evidence
that she exists
and is likely the same
as the girl in the pictures.
The question is, is that
who you're talking to?
I don't know.
- Right.
- So that essentially
brings us now
to where we ended,
which is Isaax.
We found Isaax's Facebook
page, okay?
- Mm-hmm.
- And we were looking
just to get a sense
of who this guy is
because he's at the center
of this whole thing.
- He's the one that made
it happen.
- Yeah, we just went
through his page.
We saw that he's got
a very serious boyfriend.
- Okay.
Did y'all talk to Isaax?
- We did. I messaged him.
He did come in the Zoom,
and we talked to him.
- It was weird.
It was weird to me.
He says that he met Stephanie
at a house party ten years ago.
Ten years ago
she would have been how old?
Everyone, math class.
- 12 years old.
- Yeah.
- Right.
- At a house party?
- Exactly.
But he says that
they've been friends ever since
and that they keep in touch
and that they're pretty close
and he knows that she's in town
right now
staying at
a very specific hotel.
But he wouldn't give us
Stephanie's number
when we asked.
It just sounded
like a bunch of crap to me.
- Right. So did he say he was
going to talk to her or...?
- He said he was going
to get in touch
with her and let her know.
I mean, the whole thing
is weird, obviously.
This guy, Isaax,
I want to believe him.
- Mm-hmm.
- I don't.
- Sounds very sketchy to me.
- Right.
- Go on there, Georgie.
- Even the dog's coming in
for assistance.
- Now here's the [bleep]
crazy part.
- Oh, hell.
- The second we hang up
with Isaax,
I called that hotel
in Moses Lake.
The front-desk guy answered,
and I said,
"Hey, can you connect
to Stephanie [bleep], please?"
And he said, "Okay, hold on."
And then connected me
to a room.
Now, no one answered,
but presumably there is a guest
at that hotel
named Stephanie [bleep].
- Stephanie [bleep].
Right.
- 'Cause otherwise the guy
would have come back
on the phone
and been like, "I'm sorry.
I don't have a guest
under that name."
So now I'm all messed up
because if there is a
Stephanie [bleep] at the hotel,
that means that he was telling
the truth at least about that,
which now makes me wonder
what else he might be
telling the truth about.
- I'm, like,
mind-boggled right now.
- We are no closer to knowing
that it's not her.
We also really don't have
any strong evidence
that it is her at this point.
The only way we're getting
in touch with Stephanie
is if she either calls you
or Isaax speaks to her.
And it sounds like Isaax
is sort of the gatekeeper,
so we're kind of
at his mercy right now.
- Right.
- So I think
we should just message
Isaax one more time
and let them know
that we're still waiting.
I just said, "Hey, Isaax.
Let me know once
you've talked to Stephanie."
All right, I'm sending it.
Now we wait.
- It just doesn't
look good to me.
I don't know how you feel.
- I don't know
how to feel right now.
I feel flabbergasted,
honestly.
I don't even know
whether to trust her or not.
- Yeah, I mean, we'll just have
to check in in the morning
and see what we got.
- All right. Thank you, guys.
Y'all have a good night.
- Try to get some rest.
- I will.
[cell phone ringing]
- Hello?
Yeah, hi. Who's this?
- Hey, Stephanie.
How you doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.
- Yeah. So Bryn reached out,
because as you know,
you guys have been talking now
for a while,
and he felt like
sometime in that year,
you might've been able to
FaceTime or maybe even meet up.
I know it's been a crazy year,
but he was just wondering
if we could help organize,
like, a video chat.
- Okay. Wow. Okay.
- Yeah, look,
I understand that.
Okay.
- I mean, it's not really
so much us.
- Just tell the truth.
- Bryn's been opening up to you
and making time for you
for the last year,
and he just deserves to know
where that's going
or if it's going anywhere.
And I think for him,
part of that is seeing
and hearing you tell him
whatever it is
you feel he should know, and
in this case, it might just be
that you're in a relationship
that's going well
and that you're not interested
in pursuing anything with him
so that he can go pursue
someone else.
- Yeah.
Bye.
[dramatic music]
- Wow.
- I mean, I'm--I don't know.
- My first thought was,
"This is an older woman."
Like, this is a grown woman
Yeah.
- I was like,
"Okay, this person is not 22."
- That sounds like Bryn's
about to get his heart broken
is what it sounds like.
- Well...
- Great. Well, this is going to
make tomorrow very interesting.
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
"Kamie.
I've got an update."
Where you at, girl?
[computer chimes]
There she is. Listen to this.
I have a text.
Hello, Nev. It's Stephanie.
I'm with my family.
So, if you need to reach me,
do not call.
Just text.
At least now
we've got a number.
- I don't know.
I'm still reeling
from that call last night
because I just feel a way.
Like, the way that Stephanie
was coming off felt very, like,
"You guys
are trying to ruin my family.
I participated willingly
and, like, sought him out,
but, like, don't take it
too far."
- Well, yeah. I mean, look,
you can't be surprised that
after a year
of talking to a guy--
well, having
romantic conversations,
I should say--
you can't be surprised
that he's trying to meet you
and, like, wants to FaceTime.
- Duh.
- All right.
Well, let's get Bryn back on.
Fill him in.
- Maybe he's heard
from Stephanie
- All right. Hey, Bryn...
All right, he said
he's hopping in.
[computer chimes]
There he is.
- Hello.
- How y'all doing today?
- Confused.
- Okay.
- Did you hear anything
from Stephanie?
- No. Nothing. Did you guys?
- We did.
- No way.
- So last night she called me.
And the gist of it
was that she said,
"I'm in a relationship.
And I'm happy.'
And she even said,
"And--and we have a family."
- Oh, wow.
- But then I was like,
"Okay, well, so do you want to
just tell him that?
Why don't you just, you know,
jump on a Zoom and..."
- Instead of carrying it on
for a year,
you know what I mean?
- Let him know what's up
so he can move on.
And then, you know,
she started getting vague.
"Well, I don't know.
"I don't know
if that's a good idea.
"I don't know if it's safe
for me,
or it could be bad
for my family."
And I didn't know what to say.
I said, "We owe it to Bryn
to at least tell him the truth,
however you think that's best."
- Yeah, tell me something.
- Right.
- At first, the conversation
on the phone felt
a little dismissive.
She was like,
"He's a young guy.
I don't know, like, what
he kind of thought this was."
And even the way
that she said that,
like, "He's a young guy,"
I don't feel like
a 22-year-old girl would say,
"He's a young guy.
Like, I don't know
what he thought this was."
I don't know how she speaks
on the phone with you.
- I mean, I've never really
gotten the notion
that she could be older.
You know, she's still sounds
like somebody
in their 20s would.
- 'Cause to me, she sounded
like a grown-ass woman.
- Really? That is crazy.
- Maybe she is the Stephanie
in the photos.
She's just older.
- Right.
- It would explain
the old photos.
The fact that Isaax said
that he met
Stephanie nine years ago.
- Mm-hmm.
- It all fits.
- And then this morning
we got a text.
"Hey, Nev. If you need to reach
me, here's my number.
"It's Stephanie.
I am with my family.
"So, if you do want
to reach me, don't call.
Please text."
So at least now
we have a number.
- How are you feeling?
- I don't know.
I don't even know what to say.
- ♪ Been playing with the
weight of the world ♪
♪ Inside my head ♪
I just want to know
what the hell's going on here.
- ♪ Praying for a change ♪
♪ I lay awake
all night again ♪
I just wanted to get down
to the bottom of it
and ask why.
What happened in your life
to make you want to do this?
You know what I mean?
'Cause obviously
you've been hurt before.
You're just an ass.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Electrified,
I'm just a light ♪
♪ Dimming in the dark ♪
- The fact that she texted
is an indication
that she's willing
to now engage.
So I can text her back now.
- Yeah.
- "Good morning.
"I'm hoping you have decided
to do the right thing.
Can you join our Zoom now?"
I know what her response
now will be.
She might be like, "Well, I'm
with my family. I can't Zoom."
But, like, step outside.
We only need five minutes.
Oh, oh, oh, she wrote back.
- Oh, wowza.
That's [bleep].
- "We'll take whatever
we can get."
- Are you guys sweating?
I'm sweating.
- Have you thought
about what you would say?
- I'm just sitting here
going, "I got no clue."
[computer chimes]
- Whoa.
Hey.
- Hi.
- What's up?
- I just wanted
to start off
and say that I wanted
to apologize to Bryn.
- Mm-hmm. Okay.
- I didn't think that
it was this serious.
I thought it was just,
like, flirty and having fun.
I didn't tell him the truth.
- Well, is there any way
you could show us your face?
- I don't know
if I can show my face.
I'm actually married.
- Wowza.
- And I'm older
than I told him.
I know that was a lie.
I do care about Bryn.
He's a great guy,
but our relationship
can't grow past this.
And I think this whole thing
is done now,
and I have to get back
to my marriage.
I mean, I think
that Bryn should move on.
- Well, do you have anything
to say to Bryn?
'Cause he's been talking to you
for a year,
and, you know, he's right here
and this is--
this is a big moment for him.
I know it's scary for you,
but it's also equally
just as scary for him.
- Um...
[sighs]
I mean, yeah, there's a lot,
you know,
that I do have to say.
Um...
[clears throat] Dude, I can't
[bleep] do this anymore.
I'm sorry.
- Wait, what just happened?
- What the [bleep]?
- [clears throat] Dude, I can't
[bleep] this anymore.
I'm sorry.
- Wait, what just happened?
- What was that?
- What the [bleep]?
- Is there any ways
I can talk to you guys alone?
- You mean just Kamie and I?
- Sure. Why the [bleep] not?
- Sure. All right,
so we're here to listen.
So, Bryn, why don't you
hang out for a second?
We'll put you in, like,
a waiting room.
- Yeah.
- And we'll talk to Stephanie
for a second
and see what's up.
- Sure. Why not?
[computer chimes]
- Okay. So now it's just us.
Stephanie, are you still there?
- Yes, I'm still here.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Ahh!
- Ah. Hi, guys.
- Wow.
- Hello, Isaax.
- Hi.
I just have to confess
that it's definitely me.
Obviously, me, clearly.
- Wait a second.
Who is that woman
that was just talking to us?
- That was my friend.
I really--I-I didn't want
to hurt Bryn.
I felt like it was less
embarrassing, like,
if it was to be a--like,
a woman, a married woman.
And I just didn't expect it
to get this far.
I didn't think that it was
going to end up like that.
- Right, but who did I talk
to last night?
Was that you, or was
that your friend?
- That was me.
- So it has been you
talking to Bryn
this whole time?
- It has.
- When your friend
started talking,
I felt like
Bryn would've noticed
if her voice was different,
but was she trying sort of do
a voice that you've been doing?
- That wasn't her talking.
That was me.
- Oh, that was you
talking off camera.
- Yes.
- What?
- I need evidence.
Where's the voice
that we heard last night?
- Did you want to meet
Stephanie?
- Yes, we want to meet
Stephanie
- [high-pitched voice] Hi, I'm
Stephanie, and how are you?
- Yeah, there it is.
- Kamie, you look
a little shocked?
- [squeals]
- We had a little bit
of a suspicion
that it could have been you,
but you seem so happy
and in love with your boyfriend
that we just figured
that it couldn't be.
- I am. I'm in
an open relationship
and so came across Bryn
and his TikToks,
and I didn't think
it was gonna progress.
I think the more
that I got to know him,
the more that I started
to fall for him
and the more that I started
to feel guilty.
So, with or without the show,
I was already planning
on ending things
because I felt
that it was getting
a little too out of hand
and a little too serious.
- Wait a second.
I called the hotel
after we spoke yesterday,
and I asked to be connected to
Stephanie [bleep]'s room.
Are you checked in
under Stephanie [bleep]?
Like, I'm just confused.
- No. I actually work here,
and I created the account.
- So you're not even
really checked in.
You just, like, put a room
under Stephanie [bleep]
'cause you can?
- Correct.
- Okay.
Well, that answers that.
Why take it
to such crazy lengths?
- I really care about him.
You know, he seems to be
an open-minded guy,
so I'm hoping that he maybe
can see that love is love.
- Still? You want to be
in a relationship with Bryn?
- I do.
- Isaax,
I just don't think
that it's fair to say,
well, love is love,
and he should just love me
as me, when you know that Bryn
is straight
and into heterosexual women.
And you also knew that
before creating Stephanie,
which is why you created
Stephanie in the first place.
- Well, I'm just hoping
for the best,
because I really feel
that my personality
is still the same personality.
I just--appearance-wise,
it's not.
- Wait, wait, you should be
telling all this to Bryn.
Why don't we just bring Bryn
back in
so he can hear all this?
- I'm just--I'm really
nervous, but okay.
- It's better for him to know
and to hear it from you,
and now's the moment.
So I'm going to bring him
back in the room,
and you'll just explain.
- Okay.
- All right.
Let's bring Bryn back in.
- He is going to be shocked.
♪ ♪
[computer chimes]
♪ ♪
- Oh, [bleep] me.
- Why don't we just bring Bryn
back in
so he can hear all of this?
- I'm just--I'm really
nervous, but okay.
[computer chimes]
- Isaax is the one you've been
talking to on the phone.
- Oh, [bleep] me.
- Hi, Bryn.
So, you know, I'm Stephanie.
- Who was that?
- The girl on the chair?
- Yeah.
- So that was my friend.
- I think the idea was, he
was hoping to play it off
like you were actually talking
with this married woman,
and that way, it would be
less embarrassing for you.
- That's just insane to me.
- But she wasn't
really talking.
It was Isaax's voice
off camera.
- Kind of blows my mind,
honestly.
- I just want to say that
my intentions weren't bad.
I didn't think it was
going to go this far.
And, you know, the more that
I got to see your social medias
and the more I got to know
you through that,
the more that I, like,
started to like you
and the more that I felt like
I started to fall for you.
- I don't even know how to feel
right now, dude.
Like, we told each other
so much [bleep].
It's probably made up
on your end.
- I'm still
the same person.
- You're not
the same person.
- I am the same person,
same personality.
Every time that I told you
I'd be supportive for you,
every time I told you
I'd be there for you,
that was me.
- Isaax was there,
not Stephanie.
- Right now I feel like
you're trying
to be brand-new
about the situation.
And, like, I'm telling you that
I'm putting my heart out there.
That was still me.
- I understand completely,
but that's not me,
you know what I mean?
Like, I don't--
- That's not you.
Okay, Bryn, really?
Like, let's keep it real.
I feel like Bryn
has given me mixed signals.
Like, you know, he has talked
to me as me as Isaax
and, I mean, he wanted to come
in my back door
and play in this mud,
so quit playing, Bryn.
You're acting real brand-new
right now, so...
- Listen here, I am comfortable
with sexuality.
- I'm a little confused.
Have you two had sexual
conversations as each other?
- No.
- In the very begi--yes.
In the very beginning,
there would be times
where he would forget to say
send this to Stephanie,
and it'd be
a shirtless picture.
So was that solely
for Stephanie?
And then he would be,
like, flirty.
- That's crazy.
- He definitely has sent,
like, kissy emojis.
Little kissy emojis when he's
telling me good night,
you know, as Isaax.
- I mean, look,
this does sound petty,
but, like, did you send him
a kissy-face emoji?
- I probably did.
[chuckles] I probably did.
- I feel like that's how
young guys texts these days.
What you take as flirty
is just me being who I am.
And the "conversations"
we would have late at night,
I would never have
those conversations with a man.
That's just personally not me.
- But, look-it, you did.
You did. I mean...
- Yeah, I did.
- And you got to see that
there was a personality
that could care
about you, like,
if you just
took away the image.
- Oh, if that's your real
personality as Stephanie,
then you have
a beautiful personality,
but doing things like that,
that [bleep] with somebody's
head and heart, man.
It's not cool.
- But, listen, Isaax, you had
your own friendship with Bryn.
You already had an opportunity
to see if he was interested
in you.
If he had been,
it would have happened.
Like, the opportunity
was there.
So, for you to say, "Well,
I just feel like he needed
to get to know my personality
better," is basically saying,
"I didn't like that
he wasn't interested in me,
so I wanted to make him
interested in me,"
and that's not okay.
- But, you know, like, okay,
look-it, in the past,
I've catfished,
and there has been incidences
where I go for straight guys.
And some of these guys
have got to know me as Isaax.
I came clean to them...
- Okay.
- And it ended up
being a relationship,
you know what I mean?
- Well, Isaax, even though
you've done it in the past
and it's worked out for you,
that doesn't make it right.
If you are talking to Bryn
and you know
that Bryn is talking to you
because he thinks
that you are a woman,
you are actively trying
to manipulate the situation
to get what you want.
If somebody is not into you,
you can't make them
be into you.
- Yeah. I mean, I can see
what you're saying.
I see it differently.
I just didn't see that
I was making him do anything.
- We know you see it
differently.
That's the problem.
Listen, I don't blame you
for falling in love with Bryn.
He's an attractive guy.
He's always
spreading positivity.
What's not to like?
But you can't be [bleep]
perpetuating the stereotype
that gay guys are out
to turn straight men.
Like, it's a stereotype
that's rooted
in lies and homophobia,
and we can't make anyone think
that it's even remotely true
when it's not.
- Right. I understand.
It's worked for me in the past.
So I guess
that's why I went this route.
And I know that some people
are not going to agree,
but let's keep it real.
Not all of us are gonna agree
on every single thing,
'cause what is love?
Love is what you make it.
It's your world. You create it.
But I do want to apologize.
I know that you were looking
for a woman.
I felt like that was a fantasy
I believe that I created.
But at the time
that's what seemed right to me.
And I'm sure it hurt you.
But I mean, I hope that we can,
you know, be friends.
- [sighs]
- We won't be talking
after this.
But I'll still be
on my Snapchat.
If you ever need anything,
I'll be there.
- Sounds good.
- Well, Isaax, look, now
he knows the truth.
You've come clean,
which I think you'll feel
better about,
and hopefully
this whole situation
can now be over with.
- I'm definitely going to
hang up Stephanie's heels.
It's definitely something
that I think I do need to do.
- Right.
- But if Bryn ever gets
that wild hair in his ass
and, you know, he wants to call
Stephanie, I'm still here.
Only for Bryn.
- Okay. Well, we'll give him
your number, so he has it.
Goodbye, Isaax.
- Bye, guys. Bye.
- Jesus.
- All right. Well, that's that.
- Oh, my God.
- Sorry it didn't work out
and that, you know,
this guy wasted your time.
- Are you gonna be okay?
- Yeah, I'll be straight.
I promise you I will never
be doing that again.
- Yeah.
- FaceTime, pictures.
I want to know.
- Yeah, a phone number.
How about to start there?
- Yeah, no [bleep]. This has
been an adventure, guys.
It was a pleasure
to meet y'all.
- Nice to meet you.
All the best.
- Thank y'all.
- Yeah.
- Thanks, Bryn. Good luck.
- ♪ And you keep on playing
games with me, games ♪
♪ And you always got to play
with me, play ♪
♪ And I hate the way you're
breaking and taking ♪
♪ You tell me you don't ♪
♪ Boy, you really ought to
knock it off right now ♪
- April got a message
from Daryl saying,
"I drew a picture
from your photos."
- The fact that somebody
is making drawings of me.
- You're his muse.
- He does say that to me.
- But you've never heard
his voice or seen him?
- No.
- I want to
search his profile.
- [gasps]
- Something is definitely up.
- I'm really freaking out.
[computer chimes]
Oh, my goodness.