Broken Noses (1987) - full transcript

A documentary, photographed in black-and-white, with a hip jazz soundtrack, looks at the boys and coach of a small but accomplished boxing club near Portland, Oregon. The film focuses on the coach, former Olympic contender and pro athlete Andy Minsker, and tells not only the story of his devotion to his young athletes, but hints at childhood obsticles which may have prompted Minsker, as an adult, to give his students guidance, support and love with such enthuasism and dedication.

[music playing]

-When one of the-- when one of
the kids is in a fight and

starts to cry, the first thing
I tell 'em to do is take a

couple of deep breaths.

Then I tell them, think about
it, you know, just like I'm

talking to a fighter.

I'll say, think about it.

I say, is that crying going to
get you any more points?

Is that crying gonna make the
judges feel better for you.?

I said, if you-- if you want
to cry, you can go home to

your momma and cry.



You're in front of hundreds
of people

here, and you're bawling.

You're from the best boxing
team probably in the West

United States, if not the
nation, and you're bawling.

You-- you're here with 14 or 15
studs that are tough, that

train five days a week, two
hours a night, four miles.

They sacrifice their friends,
their pleasure, their going

out, and you're bawling from--

it's-- it's not just
you in the corner.

I said, you are the
boxing team.

If one guy bawls, it's
just as good as the

whole boxing team crying.

And I don't want no crybabies.

I've had Morgan fight.



And he-- it was only like
his fourth fight.

He was fighting an awfully
good fight.

He got hit once hard on
the nose, real hard.

He thought it broke his nose.

He come back to the corner.

He was bawling.

He was bleeding.

My nose is broken!

I slapped him.

I grabbed him by the head,
shook his head, and said,

Morgan, you're in front of
a lot of people here.

And the boxing team's
sitting right there.

You gonna let these guys know
that you're beat already and

you got two more rounds to go?

I said, OK, the guy might
be a little bit better.

He might be a little
better boxer.

But he doesn't have the-- he
hasn't been in the gym every

day training like you.

He hasn't been pumping like
you've been pumping.

He hasn't been doing what
you've been doing.

But if you want to give up now,
I'll throw the towel in

and we'll let everybody--
and we'll all go home.

And everybody will be saying,
oh, jeez, Morgan was--

jeez, Morgan pussed out.

Morgan pussed out.

You're on the best boxing
team around.

You gonna let-- you gonna
let these guys down?

And all the sudden he
stopped crying.

He shook it off.

He went out there and just beat
the shit out of the guy.

We win a decision,
and he goes home.

[music playing]

-This is an imitation of Andrew

coaching one of his fighters.

Jeez, man, what's wrong
with you, man?

You're backing up
all the time.

You don't-- you don't want to
back up and shy away from him.

All you're doing, you're
not punch or anything.

You're not scoring anything.

You just get in there.

You just fucking keep your
hands right here

and move after him.

You're making all these moves,
making real nice moves, but

then you're backing up.

You're not throwing anything
off of them.

Get in there.

You make a move.

You throw something
off of them.

Look sharp!

Don't look like a pussy.

-Andy, uh, when you bring a girl
to his bedroom, what do

the girls usually say
about this bedroom?

-Well, when I bring a girl--

[laughs]

Oh, wow.

When I bring a girl to
this bedroom, the--

mostly the first thing they--
they talk about or that they

see of course is the trophies.

You have, as you can--

as you can kind of see,
I got a small,

small collection here.

Actually, this isn't--

this isn't all of my trophies.

This is a--

this is an accumulation of some
of my most favorite or

my-- the best ones that
I've won over the--

since I was an amateur.

I have an awful lot more.

I have boxes of them
that I just don't

have room for in here.

But, uh, just for example,
oh, here we go.

This, uh, this trophy here--

careful.

This trophy here is the Oregon
AU Novice Championships

November of 1970.

When I was, uh-- when I was
younger, my stepmom, Mary,

would, uh, would have my name
engraved on them and the-- and

the date, 11/7/70.

This--

this is when I won Outstanding
Boxer from the very--

from my very first tournament
that I ever boxed in.

And, uh, you know, I
had five fights.

And I--

and I won them all.

And I won an Outstanding
Boxer trophy.

I didn't really know what it
meant at the time, but now--

you know, obviously I--

I kind of know now.

I thought I had my very first
trophy that I won stacked up

in here, but I--

but I don't.

That's one of-- that's one of my
most-- my most prized ones,

there, this one here, along
with, of course,

a lot of them here.

This--

this trophy here's when I won
the National Golden Gloves.

I have a pair of snakeskin
cowboy boots-- a little

interesting story--

I have a pair of snakeskin
cowboy boots that are in my

closet there that my dad--

that my dad told me if I ever
won a national title that he

would give me, buy me a pair
of snakeskin cowboy boots.

And, uh, I finally--

I took five or six tries,
and I finally--

I finally got the shot
and finally--

finally won.

So now I get-- got that.

But this is--

[ringing]

-Oh, there's--

oh my god, it's my duck.

[ringing]

-Yes, this is a telephone.

Hello?

Yes.

Yes.

How you doing, Mom?

Oh my goodness.

It's my mom.

[laughs]

Oh, if you only knew.

[laughs]

Hey, Mom?

(LAUGHING) We're kind of busy.

We're kind of busy.

OK.

Oh, OK, great.

All right, see you later, Mom.

Bye.

[hangs up]

I know it's hard to believe, but
I got a duck for a phone.

-Minsker comes right back out
with that good straight left

jab and has scored here
early on Franklin.

On the inside on-- on this
one, and jabbed this

way into the body.

We are indeed here in the ring
with Andy Minsker, a slightly

disappointed Andy Min--

Andy Minsker, if I read
you correctly.

Uh, you said, darn it, or words
to that effect, after

the fight-- nothing
too bad, folks.

And I think it was because you
had things going your way very

well early, and you
won the fight.

But maybe the last part of that
fight didn't go the way

you'd like it.

-Yeah, so I felt the third and
fourth round slip, and I--

I got--

I got real fatigued,
which was, uh--

you know, it's kind of-- it
worried me a little bit.

After the second round I was
started getting fatigued.

And I thought maybe I
just over-trained.

Maybe I was--

I picked up my running
for the last--

the last few weeks.

And, uh, I just think
I over-trained.

I just was training
way, way too hard.

Too many rounds in the gym, and
maybe too much roadwork.

If I may, I'd like to take this
opportunity to thank Bob

Arum at ESPN for televising
my fights.

And I'd like to say hi to
everybody back home.

OK.

-So Andy, tell us what your
mom said on the telephone.

-[laughs]

She calls up, and she goes,
Andrew, Andrew, I'm having a

nervous breakdown, she says.

I told her about--

I told her yesterday that--
that-- they'd want-- that

people would be coming over
there and maybe doing a little

bit of, uh, a little bit of
sound work, and-- or a little

bit of filming work and
stuff like that.

And she--

and she goes, oh, no, no, no.

She said, I don't want--

not over here, not
at this house.

She goes, you can't have
them come over here.

And I go, Mom, I said, this
means an awful lot to me.

And you says, uh, she
says, well, I'll

borrow Gertrude's house.

This Gertrude, she's a friend
of the family's.

She lives right across
the street.

Got an immaculate, just an
immaculate house, just stuff

in it you wouldn't believe.

And she, uh--

and my mom has always wanted
her house, wants all her

furniture and everything.

You know, if she ever goes,
she wants to make sure she

gets her furniture stuff
because it's all old

and it's real nice.

And, uh, my mom--

my mom's nervous as anything
about-- you know, just about

somebody coming over there.

Wait till I tell her that-- that
we're going to show up at

the barbecue.

She'll probably go
crazy on me.

She's, uh, she's
something else.

Get a load of these
people looking.

They--

they look-- they probably
think I'm some

kind of movie star.

[laughs]

Tell you guys about my--

my roommate, Martin Mernand.

We call him Marty.

He's the, uh--

he's probably what
you guys would

call the classic womanizer.

I mean, anything and everything
that's female, from

eight to 80, he'll hit on.

And that's a promise.

When I moved in with him,
he told me that--

he told me, Andy, if you just
do one thing for me, just

don't ever hit on Joanie.

He says, that's all I ask.

Even if we're not going out or
if we're fighting, just don't

ever hit on her.

And I said, all right, Marty.

I--

I said, I won't, you know.

And--

And I've been with--

I've been alone at the house
with her for a lot of times,

and I-- and I never
hit on her.

And, uh, you know, I was
kind proud of that.

I have a lot of respect
for Marty as a friend.

You know, if you can't trust a
friend, who can you trust?

So anyway, I, uh, I got
to know Tassie.

And I've been going out with
Tassie for a year.

Anyway, one-- one day last week
she stops by the-- she

stops by the house to drop off
a birthday present for my

cousin, Two Bit.

And Marty was there.

And she come in and-- there's
ABC Plumbing.

That's my uncle's truck!

My uncle owns that plumbing
business.

Anyway, he was talking me down,
saying I was cheating on

her and going out all the time
and that I never treated her

right and that he could treat
her way better and he could

really show her how a woman's
supposed to be treated, and

this and that.

Got her talking, you know, got
her thinking, you know, got

her pissed at me, basically.

And then, uh, he asks her out,
gives her his phone number.

There's a '57 four-door wagon,
or a '55 four-door wagon.

Anyway, so he's talking away,
talking, talking me down,

talking shit about me.

And this is supposed to be
a good friend of mine.

I've lived with the guy for a
year, known him for six years.

I mean, we've told each other
lots of things that he'd

never, ever tell, you
know, anybody else.

And this guy-- and he-- and not
to mention that is that

he's talking behind my back.

He-- he's saying that, you know,
let's go out, Tassie.

We'll just do it behind
his back.

It'll be fun.

And this is supposed to be a
good friend of mine, you know?

Now I don't know what the
hell to think about him.

You know, what the hell do you
do with a guy like that?

He thinks with his dick,
is what he does.

-I went up to Spokane with
my team, and I fought--

I--

I was really nervous before
we got into the fight.

I was really nervous.

I had my hand wraps
on and everything.

And I went in.

And I thought my guy was going
to be really tough, see.

So I went in there,
and, um, he was.

And he's a little fat kid, and
I mean, I'm going, him?

I'm going, what?

Am I supposed to fight him?

I mean he's really-- looks
really easy to fight.

I went in there and, um, I was
planning on knocking him out.

Well, I didn't knock him out.

As a matter of fact, he
was pretty tough.

So I went in there,
and um, hit him.

And he hit me, gave
me a bloody nose.

And I--

I thought I--

I thought I really
had to fight.

And so I didn't really--

I had faith in myself,
but I didn't--

I won the fight.

And--

and, um, at the end of the fight
I was sort of bragging

and saying, yeah, I beat him.

And, um, so I went
and my trainer--

my trainer told me not to
brag as much as I did.

And--

and it made me real
embarrassed.

And so I remembered it the
next time I fought.

So, that's all.

-Somebody would more than likely
be driving this '57 off

before I give up that
boxing team.

It's kind of hard to explain,
but them little kids just kind

of grow on you.

And once you get hooked up
with them, there ain't no

backing out.

[hitting sounds]

-Go ahead, go ahead.

Just keep working.

Just keep working.

There you go.

You got to make them
effective.

Just do it another way.

Don't open up.

There you go.

There you go.

Hold on a second.

You ever noticed your hook's
coming around your head all

the time, instead of coming
right here, right

where it should be?

You swing and he comes around
your head all the time.

Right here.

Here's his head.

Your hand's out here.

You've got to look at what
you're punching at, and it's

got to be shorter.

If these are your clothes, you'd
better hop from here,

not down here, not
way down here.

[hitting and punching]

-There you go.

There you go.

Nice box.

-Nice moves.

-Nice moves.

-Hang on.

Hang on.

Aiming, aiming, same thing,
different principle.

Go down there.

This hand's here.

This one's down here
by the body, and

this one's right here.

Then you step away and
you're right here.

Nothing's up here, nothing.

It's right here.

If you're down here, you
can pull this one back.

When you're up here like this,
you can't do nothing to me.

You're going to go down
there and get it in

there, get in there.

Damn quick coming back
at the mean time.

Not down here.

[bell rings]

-Yeah, bloody hooks.

[hitting and punching]

-There you go.

Keep your hands moving.

Keep your hands moving.

All the time.

There you go.

There you go.

Keep walking.

Keep walking.

There you go.

Keep it going.

Keep it going.

There you go.

Nice move.

[music playing]

-Thing that I enjoy the most is
how they look up to me, and

how they trust me, they trust in
my judgment, on what to do

and how to do it.

They--

they brag about me.

If some other coach is saying,
yeah, I've seen Minsk fight,

they'll come up and
they'll defend me

just as quick as anything.

And being a two-time national
or three-time national

champion, I know that they have
the confidence in me.

If they're getting out-- if they
go out there and they're

getting their ass kicked, and
they come back and I say, I

want nothing but left jabs this
round, and if you throw

another punch I'll swat you
when you get back to the

corner, 12 out of 12 guys will
go out there and that's all

they'll throw.

The respect from them
is amazing.

If I ever have a son,
I certainly

won't push him to box.

Of course, I always
hope that he will.

I boxed two years before I
finally figured out that my

dad had boxed.

My dad's love for it was so
great that it was somehow

inbred into me.

[music playing]

-You know, my dad--

my dad told me that if I ever--
when I was living with

him when I was a little
kid, I got in a little

altercation at school.

You know how kids in
fights at school.

My dad told me if he ever-- if
I ever got in another fight

outside the ring, he'd
take me downstairs.

Because, you know, he thought--
maybe thought I was

going and picking on
guys or something.

But he said if he'd take
me downstairs and we'll

put the gloves on.

And I certainly didn't want to
do that, because my dad-- you

know, I have all the respect
in the world for my dad--

most of the respect in
the world for my dad.

Always wanted to ask you this
question, and just-- just for

the hell of it.

Why--

do you think I-- do you think
that I deliberately tried to

follow in your footsteps
through boxing?

Or do you think that--

do you think I'm doing it now
because I like to box, or

because I'm just trying to
follow in your footsteps, or

try to do better than--

-Well--

-You did when you--

-You've gone farther-- you've
gone farther, you know, with

your boxing career
than I ever did.

-I mean, as an amateur, you
know, I think I already told

you that was my goal
to meet or beat--

-Well, yeah.

---your best.

-That was the promise.

And you remember what I told you
what you won the ABF-- or

the National Golden Gloves?

-I told them about the boots.

[laughs]

-No, I mean, that was just, you
know, that was something

that, uh, that, uh was
part of it, you know?

-[laughs]

-If-- if--

if anybody has a son, I'm sure
that they would like them to

pursue a career in their
father's footsteps.

But you've-- you've exceeded
what I-- what I did as an

amateur boxer.

But you've been at it--

you've been at it longer
than I was, too.

-So your looking at a boxer
here that in 1954 was the

Olympic alternate due to
politics, basically.

I heard it from his coach.

I've heard it from a lot
of other people.

Now you're looking 30
years, exactly 30

years later, in 1984.

You're looking at another
Olympic alternate.

-Politics got to be, in
1954, as the politics

got to you in 1984.

-I think my was more--

more so a little bit
worse, because I

won the Olympic trials.

I don't know if-- did they, in
'54, did they have box-off?

-No box-offs.

-When you won the
Olympic trials--

-You were-- you were the Olympic
champion, represented

the United States.

And that year--

-In the Olympic games.

---people went to Finland.

I could have went to Finland
with them, and I decided--

I decided not to under
the circumstances.

And I probably--

I don't feel that I
made a mistake.

But my mother was--

people that remember back in
19-- during the late '50s, the

early '50s and the late '50s,
the Iron Curtain was--

was coming down.

And there was lots of problems
in that part of the world.

And my mother just put her
foot down and said,

no, you're not going.

So that was one of
the reasons.

Plus there were some other
factors that entered into the

thing why I didn't go.

-See, I also had an opportunity
to go as an

Olympic alternate.

I also had an opportunity to
go to the training camp.

They wanted me to go to the
training camp to help the kid

that they-- they pushed into
the Olympic games, to spar

with him and get him ready to
win an Olympic gold medal.

-There was a lot of things--

there was a lot of
things involved--

-Yeah.

---in this--

in this.

-The racial--

racial things is what I'm almost
positive, racial--

the racial thing, the
black and white--

I think that had a lot to do.

See, I was the only
white boxer to

win the Olympic trials.

The only one.

-There's so many things
that I've wanted to--

that I've wanted to get
out about this that--

that it's just, uh--

you know, it makes you sick,
as much time and effort,

effort, money, whatever you want
to call it, that we've

invested in this thing in
the past five years.

You know, and to have it go down
because somebody besides

the training people that were
training these kids had--

well, they got the final say.

They know who's going to win
and who isn't going to win.

There's no doubt about that.

If anybody that's close to it
knows, you know it before

hand--

-They know who they
want in there.

-They know who they want, and
they-- they do whatever they

have to to get what they want.

And there's big money
behind it.

They were looking at big dollars
in Meldrick Taylor,

Pernell Whitaker--

-Breland.

-Holyfield, Mark Breland,
uh, Biggs.

I mean, it's, you know--

they're all black, and, uh, and
the people that are behind

them are white, and they've
got lots of money.

And that money is what, uh, you
know, what-- what talks.

It says it.

-See, if our fighters make the
Olympic team and they win,

you're looking at a lot of--

that's what they're saying,
that you're making a--

that we'll donate $1 million, $1
million, $2 million to the

United States Amateur
Boxing Federation.

You know, they're not telling
that we want our guys winning,

but they're telling them--

-All that's-- all
that's said is--

-Lot of money involved.

---is that there's a big
donation coming.

You know, so what--

you can't--

there's no way getting
around it.

You just--

-They're looking
for themselves,

of course, you know.

I think that if the Eastern Bloc
countries would have been

there, I would have been--

I would have been on
the Olympic team.

Because they wouldn't have
chanced Meldrick Taylor going,

because he's so young, taking
a chance on getting beat.

I think they had the confidence
in me that I could

have beat the Russian,
the Cuban, whoever.

You want to know the story, it's
actually had-- they had

the Olympic trials.

They had a box-off to box-off
to see who got to fight me.

What they did was they had
Bernard Gray and Meldrick

Taylor box off at the training
camp, in a closed session

where just the boxers got to
watch, to see who got to fight

me in the-- in the actual
box-off to see who was on the

Olympic team.

So they went through
two or three steps.

Bernard Gray fought Meldrick
Taylor in the box-off at the

training center in Colorado
Springs, and in my opinion,

and in all the other boxers'
opinion, beat him and beat him

soundly for three rounds.

And he didn't get
the decision.

They gave Meldrick Taylor
the decision.

And he's who I boxed in the
Olympic-- in the box-offs, and

which I didn't get a chance
to prepare properly.

It's an excuse, sure, it's
an excuse, but it's

a legitimate excuse.

They told us that--

that I would sacrifice my spot
on the Olympic team or a

chance to box-off for the
Olympic team if I didn't go to

the training camp.

Well, I went to the training
camp and got there, and half

the boxers didn't show up.

But they still got to box
in the Olympic box-offs.

I got seven rounds of sparring
in three weeks to prepare for

the most important
fight of my life.

They're the ones, the Olympic
training center and the

coaches and everything, they're
the ones-- and they

wouldn't allow our personal
trainers to come up

and help train us.

They wouldn't allow it.

If my dad would have came up, or
Ed would have came up, they

wouldn't let them in the gym.

They wouldn't let
them train me.

And consequent--

but Emanuel Steward had three
or four guys there.

He was the head coach
of the team.

So his boys are all
taken care of.

He flew in guys for his
boys to spar to

prepare for the fight.

I managed seven rounds of
sparring in two weeks to

prepare for the most important
fight of my life, and I lost.

I'm not the most emotional
guy in the world.

I never have been.

Never-- you know, I can remember
twice in my lifetime

ever hugging my dad.

And--

and those two times
were basically

when we were hunting.

He shot a deer one time when
I was a little tiny kid.

We went out on one day, and
just he got a deer, and he

hugged me and said, we did it.

You know, and it was
just me and him.

And it was snowing.

It was kind of-- you know,
I'll remember it always.

-Mr. Minkser, Andy didn't think
you were going to show

up here today.

-Well, as you know, I've got--

I've got some obligations
that-- that it's

tough for me to, uh--

tough for me to turn down.

I got to make a living.

I got to get going to college.

You know, and it's expensive.

And, uh, and I'm not
a great provider.

But, uh, you know,
I got to keep--

I got to keep at it.

And I've got a wife that works
full-time, too, and that's the

only way that we can-- that we
get our boy through college.

And before he started college,
the majority of what we spent

was on this guy right here.

That's why I went to
all the flights and

flew around the country.

It was a joint venture
between--

between my wife and made to be
able to make these trips.

And Andrew wonders why I
haven't been to these

professional fights.

Uh, I'll be truthful with
you, I can't afford to.

I can't afford those $300 or
$400 flights once or twice or

every month or so.

I--

I'm just not in that category.

I wish I was.

I wish I could afford to, you
know, travel with him and

spend all the time with him,
but I just can't do it.

And I know--

I know what the situation is.

-I--

did I not, though--

correct me if I'm wrong.

I offered to pay your way over
there, fly you over there.

Billy said he'd fly
you over there.

-Well, the thing was,
the offer--

this is-- this is
new to me, see.

I never heard anything
about it.

I wouldn't have accepted
it, for--

for one reason is I don't want
to be obligated in any way,

shape, or form to--

to any of that bunch
in-- in Las Vegas.

-There's no obligation there.

-Well, yes--

-We just wanted you--
wanted you--

I wanted you there to
watch me fight.

-Yes, I realize.

I realize that, Andrew.

But, well, we'll go back.

We'll go back a little
bit farther, when

we went down and--

and made the deal with
your manager.

I felt at that time,
you know--

you know how I felt about it.

-Yeah.

-I wanted to--

I wanted you to find
a trainer.

You know, and you didn't want
to go along with that.

You said no.

-Here it comes.

-Well, hey, I'm telling you.

Because I--

I knew from experience what
was in line for him.

He could be--

he could make $1 million real,
real easy if he had the right

people behind him helping him,
doing the things for him.

But he didn't--

he was too young.

He didn't understand this.

He didn't understand the massive
thing that was there

for his grabbing.

And now I feel bad that I didn't
maybe insist that he--

that he get the right caliber
of a manager--

-Just--

---or a trainer to start with.

-To me it was just that how
can you-- how can you--

you know, now I realize
that I should

have done it, of course.

And I'm looking back and
saying, I wish I

would've done it.

But how do you tell him, an old
guy like Ed, who's trained

me since I was eight
years old--

-But Andrew, no let's
get-- let's get back

to the point now.

Let's start-- let's
start over.

-Well, how do you tell him you
don't want him to train me no

more?

-OK, now wait just a minute.

-I'm too good for him.

-Who--

who trained you the last two
years of your amateur career?

-Nobody.

Or you.

-Well, all right.

All I was doing was-- and
we did-- we did more.

I spent the money and
traveled and went.

And I didn't want to get
involved in the training in

the professional thing.

All I wanted you to do was
find a good professional

trainer to train you.

And that was the whole
thing in a nutshell.

And-- and I feel that you--

that you--

that you've lost the
opportunity.

Maybe not.

Maybe it's still there.

-Lost what opportunity, to
find a good professional

trainer?

-No.

-For what, then?

Just kind of hard to swallow,
you know, being with a trainer

for 16 years and all the sudden
telling him that he's--

I'm the one that has to
tell him to go up to--

that I'm not going to be the
one, or that I'm going to be

the one that has to tell him
that he's not going to be my

trainer anymore.

You know, it's--

it's just not--

it shouldn't be me the one that
should be telling him.

It should be the people that
are-- that are saying that

he's not the one for me.

Because Ed knows I love him.

And I'm sure my dad
knows I love him.

But, you know, some things
are just too hard to do.

How long ago was it, Ed, that
you-- that you met my dad or

even knew of my dad?

-Well, I'd say a long time ago
when he was a very good

amateur boxer.

When I first met him I
think was about 1948.

-'48?

-1948.

He was boxing.

-(LAUGHING) I didn't know
he was that old, Ed.

-He was boxing for Multnomah
Athletic Club.

And he, uh, he was beginning
to come up in--

-Hello.

-Hi.

-Hi.

-How are you this evening?

-Fine.

-Been better.

-What can I get you?

-I'll have a--

I'll have a Stroh's.

-Stroh's?

-Yeah.

Ed, Stroh's?

-Black coffee.

-Oh.

-I'll have tea, iced
tea, please.

-He won't have nothing.

-He can't have anything.

He'd go to sleep again.

-OK, I'll be right back.

-Thanks.

-Did you ever--

did you ever fight against
anybody from the Multnomah

Athletic Club?

-Yeah.

Yeah--

-Did you ever-- were you and my
dad even close to the same

weight class?

-No.

-I don't even know that.

-Your dad was a little guy.

I was quite glad.

-(LAUGHING) "I was
quite glad."

-I was about 147
and he was 118.

He fought in 118, 126.

He would go and he'd box
top-rank boxers all the time.

I remember when, uh--

-Thank you.

---when he neat a national
champion.

It seems to me that the man's
name was Martinez.

-Are you Andy Minsker?

Sir?

-Oh, don't start that.

No, no.

I can't.

-Oh, I can't believe it.

You're here!

-Oh, no.

-His face is turning red.

He's embarrassed.

-I'm flabbergasted.

I can't believe it.

You're here!

I saw you fight in the, uh,
the Olympic trials in '84.

-Thank you.

-Oh, it was great!

-Thanks.

-Look at me, I just can't
believe you're really here.

-Yeah, I'm really here.

[laughs]

-You know, I just can't
believe it.

-Yeah, neither can I?

-Can I ask you a favor?

-Sure.

-Can I have your autograph?

-He probably can't write.

-I know this is only a drink
ticket, but I'd just love it.

-Sure, I'd be more than happy
to give an autograph.

-Oh, thank you.

-What more can you
possibly ask for?

Hey, this is the only--

-More?

-Don't you think you oughta
have yourself paged, too?

-It's the only reason
that I'm fighting.

It's to who?

-Armida.

-Spell it.

-A-R-M-I-D-A.

-There you go.

-Oh, thank you so much.

-You're welcome.

-Can I ask you just--

-Hey.

---one more?

-Yeah.

-Can I have the honor of
giving you a kiss?

-[laughs]

-Now, watch this.

-Oh, I knew this-- why'd
I know this was coming?

Sure.

Thank you.

-Oh, thank you.

-My coach is sitting here.

I can't--

don't worry, Ed, I
don't know her.

-Well, Ed did a good
job with this man.

God, I love it.

Well, you have nice evening.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

-Bye.

-"Thank you," he said.

See what happens?

You hit good.

Kiss all the girls, too.

-You won more tournaments.

The very first tournament that--
that you won as boxing

60 pounds--

-50, Ed.

55.

-Was it 50?

55.

OK.

You know, I knew your
dad quite well.

And I knew he was a tall
kid, you know.

He was always kind of a string
bean kind of a guy.

-Thanks, Ed.

That's me, too.

-When I-- first time I saw you,
you were kind of low to

the floor, and you had your
collar turned up.

I thought, man, that--

he isn't built like a
national champion.

I don't-- you know.

But as time went by and I began
to know you a little

better, why, I could see you
had those fast reflexes.

And--

and, uh, you had--

we--

we tested you out kind
of early to see

whether you had any heart.

Yeah, you had some heart.

-Donny Parks tested
me out early.

Donny Parks beat the shit
out of me for--

for weeks, for months on end.

Every day I'd--

Chuck and you'd make us
spar with them guys.

I had tears in my eyes every
night when I left that gym.

Every night, I'm telling you.

They were--

I didn't like it.

-Remember how we used
to go to the fights.

And a lot of the kids had to go
to church Sunday morning,

so we'd get out of bed and we'd
take the kids to church.

And you were one of them too.

-Yeah, I remember having
to go to church.

-Then we'd come back.

And we'd have kids that would
be scared, had to

sleep with me and Ed.

-Yeah.

-Yep.

-And it was-- sometimes
it was pretty--

pretty bad.

Sometimes we even had kids
get their feet stuck.

When we went to Boise, Idaho.

-Remember, what was his name?

Brent?

-I don't know.

We rode on the train.

We rode all night.

-What was his name?

It wasn't--

his name was Brent or something,
wasn't it?

-Yeah, he lived over
in Milwaukee.

-Man, this kid [inaudible].

-His feet stunk.

-You think Randall's
feet stink.

This guy's feet stunk so
bad-- we were going

on a train to Idaho.

His feet stunk so bad we were
in-- we were in a room.

We had to have him set his
shoe-- we made him, Alex and--

and Bob Neukom--

-They beat him up.

-Yeah, we'd get him down, say,
you're gonna wash your damn

feet.

-Made him wash his feet.

-We'd make him wash his
feet, set his tennis

shoes out in the hall.

People would look out
in the hallway and

say, what's that smell?

His feet stunk so bad.

Remember that first day I
came back when I was 16?

My hair was--

I mean, my hair was
down to here.

And it was in front
of my eyes.

It was down over
my eyes, bushy.

-In those days, in the '60s
when the Beatles were all

growing hair and everybody
showed up with a head of hair,

nobody could see.

And there was always a chance of
getting eye damage, because

you'd get hit with a haircut.

And, uh, it was a--

it was frustrating to me.

I was--

now you see you with this Jack
Dempsey thing again.

And that's just, it's amazing.

The world's really
progressing.

-I'm getting old, Ed.

-Yeah.

-I'm getting old.

I mean, look at this guy.

You know why, Ed, why
all these kids--

why Damien, last year, he
started last year, he had his

first fight in January,
and by June he beat--

he beat Eugene Washington with
90-something fights on his

seventh fight.

And he didn't just beat him, he
kicked the shit out of him.

And you know, the reason
he's so good and--

-Because he lives at the gym.

---all my kids are so good, is
he lives at the gym, and

he's-- and it's because
I'm teaching them.

I have all the confidence
in the world that

I'm teaching them.

But you know what I'm
teaching them?

I'm teaching them everything
I know.

And you know where I got
everything I know.

It makes men out of them
real quick, huh, Ed?

-Yes, it does.

-I like boxing because,
um, I want--

I like doing something, doing
something and staying in it

instead of just playing over
in people's houses and

everything.

I think Andy Minsker always
looks dirty and scrungy and

looks like he has zits, and--

and I think he's very ugly.

-Aaron, what do you think
your toughest fight was?

-Um, when I lost.

-Aaron--

-Have you ever had a fight that
you thought you won but

you really lost?

-Yeah, at the Old Moose Lodge
when I fought the guy from

Warm Springs.

How about you?

-Um, uh, yeah, when I fought
Nathan at the, um, match bout.

-Yeah?

Was that a close fight?

-Uh-huh.

Everybody thought I won.

-Um--

son of a bitch.

[laughs]

Um, what an asshole.

[music playing]

[laughter]

-This is my-- this is my famous,
uh, Grandpa Dean.

-Hi, Grandpa!

-You know high school, like
high school letterman's

jackets and letterman
sweaters and stuff?

-Yeah.

-He started making those letters
and stuff in the

basement of our house on
26th and turned it

into a great big--

a huge company.

He's--

this man, he's the money
maker in the family.

[laughter]

-And he also golfs a lot.

-He's a golfer.

[chattering]

-Yeah, it was great.

-Dad's a golfer too, though.

-You know all the award
letters and stuff?

I remember when I was a little
just-- well, I can't even

remember how old I was.

-It probably is on the back of
your sweater as we speak.

-How old was I when we lived
in the house on 26th?

I was young.

It was before I started boxing,
so it must have been--

I was six, seven years old?

-Four, five.

-Four, five, six, seven.

I remember there were-- they had
a bunch of machines in our

basement of our house on 26th,
and they were always sewing up

them letters, them
award letters.

I remember, I had a whole--

I had a whole big box
somewhere of the

letters to go through.

-Yeah!

-Yeah, what was that, boys?

[laughter]

-That was Jill.

[chattering]

-Oh, did you bring
the new truck?

Too good to bring it
out here, huh?

It might get--

you didn't want to scratch it.

-It's bad news to have
a big, bad cab.

Really, it is.

I've got one.

-Where's the kid?

There he is.

-There, get a little Chucky
on his camera here.

Remember that--

remember that Fu Manchu mustache
you put on him?

-Oh, yeah, you remember that?

See, he's not scared of me.

Look, made him smile.

-Yeah, he likes you.

-You're not scared of
Andrew, are you?

He's gonna be a little
a guy like me.

Gonna be like me.

He's looking just like
me, don't you?

Chucky, Chucky, you look just
like me, don't you?

Huh?

Yeah, he's gonna be--

he's gonna be a little
guy like me?

You want to be a-- you going to
let him fight a little bit,

maybe, or--?

I mean, if he-- if he
chooses to do so?

All right.

Chucky.

-You said he's got a
good jaw, right?

-You gonna box?

Yeah, small.

See the nice small jaw?

They could be winging hooks by
him, miss him by that much.

Piece of cake.

-It'll tear easy, that one.

-See, he's already got a couple
of strikes there.

-Yeah, you want to be
a boxer, buddy?

Huh?

Huh?

Look at him.

Huh, you gonna be a boxer?

Oh, look at that, he took a
swing at me, too-- he took a

swing at me.

-He's got your mouth,
the Minsker mouth.

-He looks just like me.

Look at you, you
little rug rat.

You look just like me, buddy.

-Except he don't have no
chew in his mouth.

-He can't hear.

See this time, he can't hear.

-Give him a plug there, Andy.

-Chucky, Chucky, want
some candy?

[laughs]

Huh?

You want some?

Middle name's Drew, right?

-It's, uh, Charles Henry Drew.

-Charles Henry Drew.

Yeah, you're named
after Andrew.

You're named after
Uncle Andrew.

Yeah.

You don't know it yet.

You don't know it yet.

-He's still a child.

I don't want him to be, like I
say, embarrassed, because I'm

telling people these things.

-He's told us--

-But, see, he would
never tell anybody

anything about his mother.

-And the fact of it
is-- is that--

-He turned out halfway decent.

-He could have turned out to be,
like, the worst person in

the world.

-He could be one of these
kids out here.

-Do you know what I mean?

And ins he Turn out taking
care of these kids.

-Yes.

We got a midnight phone call
from Andrew's mother, telling

us that that afternoon the kids
had been taken by the

Children's Protective division
from school and put in a

children's home.

The teachers had found out
because the kids could not sit

in their chairs.

So they took them to the nurse,
who checked them over.

And then they called
the police.

The kids had been beat with a
rubber hose, because the stick

that the father was
using broke.

So he got--

went out and got a
piece of hose.

They were beat because the
mother had told them to pick

up their room or clean their
room, some type of a child

thing, and they didn't do it.

So he beat them.

And it took us about six months,
through court, with

the systems back then
for a father to get

custody of his children.

But we did get full custody
of the children.

And they all did come
to live with us.

They--

they wanted to go back home.

They were used to this.

They were used to
physical abuse.

They were used to
mental abuse.

They were used to being
on their own.

It was their way of life.

At eight years old, that's
all they knew.

And it was then up to
us to try and give

them a stable home.

And that's how Andrew
started boxing.

At eight years old, each child
was allowed one activity.

And that's all I told them I
could handle, because we do

participate with them.

And I couldn't run any
more than that.

And he decided he wanted to box,
because he had seen his

father's boxing trophies.

The girls had Bluebirds, 4H,
Girl Scouts, but he did not

want to be a Boy Scout.

He wanted to be a boxer.

-You think I'm talking out my
ass when I tell you guys about

the weight?

-I don't know, are you?

-I said, come over here.

Come here for a second.

I want to show you something.

I want to show you
something, baby.

-What?

-I can see from here.

-I want to show you something.

-Show me.

-Come here!

No, you can't see from here.

You can't see from
here, bitch.

-Come on.

Come on!

You do what I tell you.

Want you to come over here, I
want you coming over here.

-No!

-[yelling]

You're a real tough guy.

You're real tough now.

We'll see how tough you
are at the nationals.

-Ow!

Come on, man, you could
hurt somebody.

Oh, god!

Dang!

God, ow!

-You're strong.

-No, I'm--

Ow, I just--

-Ow!

Ow!

[grimacing]

-Got any better than
that, you wimp?

You 100-pound piece of shit?

-You're a 125-pound
piece of shit.

-Piece of shit?

I'm killing you.

I'm killing you.

You understand me?

I'm killing you.

-(CHANTING) Drop
him, drop him!

-OK, OK, knock it off now!

Cassie, for Christmas, she
gave me these underwear.

And she took them to this
print shop and had

a picture of her--

had a picture of her
printed on them.

-Drumroll!

-Drumroll.

-Yeah!

-And these guys, they wanted
me to film it.

And I--

I wouldn't do it.

I didn't want to do it.

And-- and I was--

and I said, OK, $100 in my hand
and I'll do it, because I

figured they--

I figure--

I'm figuring they'd say, oh,
forget it, you know.

And there it was,
just like that.

-So you did it.

-Then they come, so I had to,
uh, I had to show them.

Incredible, isn't it?

-I--

I mean, I like this.

All this, uh, joking
around is all--

all fine.

But, uh, there's, uh, some
things like, uh, like what

we're talking about,
give you--

gives everybody the impression
that you're a

real ladies' man.

And I know that's
not really true.

-Definitely that's
not really true.

-But, I mean, if you weren't--

you weren't my son I would trust
you with my daughter.

Your know, I mean, I don't--

I mean, I--

I think you're a pretty good--

-Am I hearing things I've never
heard before today?

-No, I mean, you're
a good person.

I mean, I--

you got good judgment.

And the way you treat your
parents, you know, that--

that-- that right there is--

-Applause.

-No, a good sign of character.

You--

you've never been
disrespectful.

Uh, well, maybe, uh, to the
mother, mommy here.

-Mommy dearest.

-A little smart mouth.

-Well, how about the time,
Andrew, I asked you--

now, when he--

-To say hi, Mom on camera.

-Yeah, to say, hi Mom, Vivian
dealing with eight kids.

-But you get-- you get--
when I'm in there--

-He gets up there and he goes,
you know, I want to thank the

Davises in--

-Yeah, but they're the first--

---Forest Grove.

-Yeah, but my girlfriend
at the time was--

-Tassie, the one you
brought-- yeah.

---from Forest Grove.

Yeah.

And her dad, I've known her
dad for a couple years.

-Big time, big time.

-And we were real
good friends.

And that's just the
first thing that

pops into your mind.

Because you don't have
a bunch of time--

-Your mom, who carried you for
nine months and watched you

for, like, all those years?

-But when you're in a
professional fight like that

and you're in there to save your
ass, and all the sudden

the fight's over with, and
you're trying to come down and

trying to think of something
normal and trying to act

fairly sound--

-Mom is normal, Andrew.

-Well, you'd think so.

-Mom is apple pie.

-But how long's it been since
I've lived with my mom?

-What do you think about when
he gets hit in the ring?

What is your feeling?

You like it?

-I think a little pain
builds character.

I think it's good for him.

-Yeah, see?

-Oh, I love it.

And I--

I'm--

I'm the "I hate."

-It builds character.

-I hate seeing you get your--
get your face hit.

-Maybe I'll get hit a
little more, have a

little bit of character.

[laughs]

-(LAUGHING) Yeah, yeah.

Maybe I'll do it, Andrew.

-No, I've always--

everybody--

Dad, everybody that I've talked
to that, you know, that

asks me about boxing and
everything, they always-- they

always ask me and say,
boy, your mom's a

real big fan of yours.

Or your dad must be a real
big fan of yours.

Or your coaches must be.

Or your kids just
must really be.

But through the years, I
mean, for the last--

I know for the last four or five
years anyway, that, uh--

and all, of course, my sisters,
they of course they

want you to do good
and everything.

And-- and even though--

I mean, even though you're my
stepdad, and you know, you're

my stepdad.

And, you know, I've never been
able to call, like, Mary-- you

know, she's my stepmom--

I never have been able, really,
to call her "Mom."

-Well because I'm such a good
mom you could never call

anyone else "Mom."

-But I've never been
able to call, uh--

-I mean, I carried him
for nine months.

-I could never call her "Mom,"
but it was-- it wasn't any

trouble for me, like, to call
you "Dad." I think that you

taught me more about what hard
work will do for me than--

than my dad kind of did.

He taught me the-- the skills.

You taught me the, more or
less, the conditioning.

-Maybe I should get
on the payroll.

[laughing]

-Yeah, please do.

-Because I remember when we were
little kids, you'd get

outside-- get outside, pick up
all the sticks in the yard,

you know, and stuff.

And discipline, Bruce or
whatever, he thinks I get my

character form--

from you.

-Me?

-Yeah.

And I know I get my
discipline, the

way I run the kids--

the way I run those kids and the
strictness that I do with

them, it certainly didn't
come from-- it

didn't come from Dad.

And it didn't come from Mary.

That came from you.

Because I know that when
you said something--

-Oh, Henry, you mean.

-Hell yes.

When you said something, by God,
when we were small, even

now--

-You did it.

-When you said something, boy,
you went out and did it.

-Those 12 little kids, how
do you treat them?

Would you treat them like you
do your own kids, or--?

-Hell yes.

I--

I'm firm with them, real
firm with them.

If one of them needs to--

needs to get their ass kicked,
I'll cuff them around and

I'll--

-You're kidding, you do that?

-I'll kick their ass.

Hell yes.

They're all from the street.

They don't know no different.

That's with they're used to.

That's what they're-- that's
what they listen to.

And I know when I was a little
kid, by God, when you told us

to get out there and do
something, if we didn't do it

or we screwed up, we got our
asses kicked for it.

And I-- and I know that was
more beneficial to me.

I certainly never held any--

any kind of grudge, or
never felt any--

anything bad towards you when
you whipped our ass.

Because I knew every time we--

we got our asses whipped--

-You had it coming.

-We had it coming, and we
had it coming full tilt.

-I'm gonna kiss you.

-I love you, Mom.

-Love you.

I mean, I'm hearing things
I've never heard before!

-Happy Father's Day, Dad.

-Thank you, Andrew.

-You bet.

By God.

-This is great.

I love it.

Man, you guys ought to all come
to Portland all the time

and straighten families out.

[music playing]

-Hope nobody from the
gym sees this.

[clears throat]

OK.

"For God's sakes, let us sit
upon the ground and tell sad

stories of the death of kings,
how some have been deposed,

some slain in war, some
haunted by the--

some haunted by the ghosts
they have deposed, some

poisoned by their wives, some
sleeping killed, all murdered.

For within the hollow crown that
rounds the mortal temples

of a king keeps death
his court.

And there the antic sits,
scoffing his state and

grinning at his pomp, allowing
him a breath, a little scene,

to monarchize, be feared, and
killed with looks, infusing

him with self and vain conceit,
as if this flesh

which walls about our life were
brass impregnable, and

humored thus--" Whoops, wait a
minute. "--and humored thus

comes at the last with a little
pin bores through his

castle wall, and
farewell king.

"Cover your heads and
mock not flesh and

blood with solemn reverence.

Throw away respect, tradition,
form, and ceremonious duty,

for you have but mistook
me all this while.

I live with bread like
you, feel want,

taste grief, need friends.

Subjected thus, how can you
say to me, I am a king?"

-One, two, three!

[music playing]

[music playing]

-Andrew, when's the first
time you got laid?

-Well, Morg, uh, ay ay ay.

I was, um--

how old-- you're in eighth
grade, right?

-14.

-You're 14 now?

Well, you just turned
14, right?

-Yeah, I was, uh, I
was 13 years old.

There's a little story
behind it, Morgan.

I'm going to go ahead and
share it with you.

All, uh--

all my friends and everything
kept telling me, oh, they

were-- they were getting laid
this, and they were

getting laid that.

And they were all saying, oh,
they were going down behind

the creek and-- and doing it.

And I'm going, Jesus.

You know, and I figured
I'd better--

I'd better get with it or I'm
not gonna get [inaudible] by

the time I was 30.

So--

so me and my girlfriend, I'll
leave her name out of it, we

went-- we went down there.

And I didn't even know what
I was doing, really.

But we went ahead and, uh, and
got the good job done.

And I came back up.

And I was telling everybody,
bragging to everybody.

And they were all
going, you did?

Really?

And I said, yeah.

And they were all
bullshitting.

They told me, they said,
oh, we never did.

We were just kidding.

So I--

you never had so many
girlfriends after that.

You know?

That reminds--

oh boy, here we go--

that reminds me--

that reminds me of a joke.

All right, this--

-Oh, please no.

-Please.

-Please!

-These guys don't
like my jokes.

Hey, hey, hey.

This guy--

this guy and his wife get
in a fight at home.

And he goes to a bar.

He's sitting there drinking.

He's sitting there
with his buddy.

And he's pissed at his wife.

And his buddy-- they're
sitting there,

drinking and talking.

Pretty soon his buddy asks him,
he says, say, say, does

your wife, does your wife close
her eyes when you're

fucking her?

And he says, yeah, she'd do
anything to keep from seeing

me have a good time.

[laughs]

Look, these guys don't laugh.

You guys don't appreciate
good humor, you bums.

How about you, Aaron?

-Um, why are you
usually a dick?

Explain that to me.

What do you mean, why
am I usually a dick?

-I mean, why are you
usually a dick?

-Like how?

-Like--

-When have I been
a dick to you?

-Like, um--

-The way he acts, Aaron?

-When?

-Yeah, the way you act.

-How do I act?

-Like a dick.

-Well, what's a dick
act like, then?

Then if you're going to call me
a dick, I want to know why

I'm being called one.

-Well, a dick's an
asshole, and--

like an asshole, then.

-Well, like what?

What have I done to you to make
you call me an asshole?

-Um, pinched my nose.

-Why did I pinch your nose?

-To pinch my nose.

-Why, though?

You're telling me I just pinched
your nose for no

reason at all?

-Yeah.

-You're lying.

-I ain't lying.

-Oh, plea-- you're lying.

I never come directly up to some
of this that's two-bit

and take a swipe at you or pinch
your nose or anything,

unless there's a reason.

-Uh-huh.

-No I don't.

-Yes you do.

-How many of you guys have I
came up directly to, just

directly to, without you do
anything to me, and took a

swat at you or pinched your
nose, give you a charley horse

or anything?

How many of?

-You've hit me before.

-Huh?

-You've hit me.

-How many of you?

-Right here.

-Yeah.

[all agree]

-OK, so I was lying.

[laughs]

Got to keep you guys
in line somehow.

Right?

-No.

-No.

-So you're going to call me
a dick just for that?

None of these other guys
call me a dick.

-Dick.

-Dick!

-Dick.

-To your face, anyways.

-Asshole.

-Yeah, you guys have a
good time while you

can, you little bastards.

-I know you had a hard time
where you stopped.

What brought--

what helped you come back?

And, you know, what
made you want it?

-My desire to win.

I think still that my desire
to win is by far and away

greater than any boxer
alive right now.

I lost that last fight.

By God, I couldn't
go to sleep.

I was--

I couldn't go to
sleep at night.

For three weeks I couldn't
sleep at night.

I got mono, strep throat,
bronchitis, was sick as a dog,

because I just don't
like to lose.

I trained hard for that fight.

I knew I should've won it.

I could've won it.

And I didn't.

And I--

you know, to me, my
desire to win--

above it-- and in anything.

It don't matter whether it's
checkers or sandlot baseball

or anything, man,
I hate to lose.

I just hate to lose.

I can't see putting all the time
and effort into something

and not getting something
out of it.

I got world travel, and
I got paid for it.

I got status, notabil--

notoriety from everybody around
me, pride from my

family and friends.

People looked up to me.

And I think basically
everybody--

I think that's kind of
what everybody wants.

Anybody, you know--

like this film crew, you know.

They--

they're hoping that maybe this
will be just something great,

that they'll get some notoriety
and some-- some

greatness out of.

And that's what--

the way I felt towards--
in boxing, you know?

I--

I wanted all that.

I saw guys on TV, and they're
raising their hands up and

they're-- and they're
feeling great.

-Guys you'd beat?

-Yeah, especially guys
that I had beat.

That's what made me come
back to boxing.

That kid that won a national
title after I had beat him

twice as a junior kid
and I had quit--

I saw him on TV, beating the
East Germans, one of the

toughest teams in the world.

And I said, Jesus, to myself.

Because I beat that guy
twice as an amateur.

I looked through my scrapbook,
you know.

And I've told you countless
amounts of times, and I don't

tell this to every kid
that comes around--

that hey, I haven't ever said it
to Chad or-- or to-- or to

like Jerry or to, you know, any
of them guys, that, hey,

you've got the ability.

I think you could be a national
champion, especially

a senior national champion.

Juniors is fine.

But seniors is they're
all striving for.

They want to win the junior
nationals so it'll set them up

for the senior nationals.

Everybody wants to win the
senior nationals so it'll set

them up as a pro.

-Yeah.

-For you it's hard.

I don't know what-- what
you want to do.

Do you want to--

do you want to-- do you want
to fight pro eventually?

-Yeah.

-I mean, do you admire the
way that my lifestyle is,

basically?

-Yeah, I do.

-And I know you like cars.

I like cars, too.

I wouldn't be able to own these
nice cars if I wouldn't

have won when I was a little kid
and trained hard and ran.

I--

I bring it all back to boxing.

I wouldn't have the things
I've got now, you know,

material things.

But the material things are
secondary, basically.

The pride that my family feels
in me when I come back from a

fight that I've won, and--

and my boxing team and my
friends when they look up to

me and say, boy, you did a hell
of a good job in there,

you know, to me that's worth
everything in the world.

[music and cheering]

-Good afternoon, ladies
and gentlemen.

I would like to welcome you
to the annual [inaudible].

-You're going to see some
real fighting today.

-Excellent.

That's what we're waiting for.

-You're going to see it.

Our fighters are ready.

[music and cheering]

-Come on!

-What are you gonna do
out there, Two Bit?

-Kick his ass.

-How bad?

-Bad.

-This guy here is awful.

All he's got to do is get
one good shot in.

-Now, no mercy in there.

No mercy at all.

-You guys, get a good picture
of this guy right here.

He's the guy to watch.

He's going to be the
new champion.

-I don't want him thinking about
nothing but winning,

nothing but winning the fight.

-What are you gonna do when
you get him in trouble?

-I'm gonna stay on, I'm
gonna kick his ass.

-What happens if you
get him hurt?

-Keep on going with it.

-I don't want you just
letting him go.

Banish him.

[cheering]

[cheering]

[music playing]

-Andy, one of the reasons why
we came out here to do this

film on you was that ever since
we first met you at the

Colorado Sports Festival,
everybody on part of my team,

my friends, kids we'd worked
with, do you know what they

always said about you?

-What?

-They'd never forget you.

-[laughs]

Well, that's good.

I'm glad that they'll
never forget me.

-Hey, look, like, if you bought
this record to learn

how to speak hip from a record
man, that is the squarest

thing I ever heard of.

I mean, wow.

But, look.

So like you bought it,
you must need it.

So that was a smart move.

You know what I mean
or something?

-[clears throat]

Hello there, and welcome to
the exciting world of hip.

-Oh, just relax, baby.

Me and this other cat, we're
gonna straighten you out.

-This is a new departure in
language instruction.

For English speaking people
who want to talk to and be

understood by jazz musicians,
hipsters, beatniks, juvenile

delinquents, and the
criminal fringe--

-What time is it?

I got to make a phone call.

-Shh.

Ladies and gentlemen, your
instructor, Mr. Geets Romo.

-Look, is it going to be
a long session, man?

Let's head out for some pizza
or something, huh?

-Mr. Geets Romo, your
instructor, will pronounce a

series of hip words
and phrases.

After each one there will be a
pause so that you can repeat

the phrase aloud.

Mr. Romo.

-Dig.

Dig it.

Dig yourself, baby.

Dig the chick.

Dig the cat.

Dig the shades on the cat.

-Greetings.

-Hey, do you have any idea how
boring this must be, what a

drag?

-Oh, please, Mr. Romo, just
read your little list.

-Oh, man.

Phew.

Hey, what's happening baby?

What's shaking, man?

Hey, there you go.

Hey.

-And farewells.

-Hey, I'm gonna split.

This is a drag.

I'm gonna cut.

You got eyes to split?

Let's make it.

You going uptown?

I got wheels.

Want to ride?

My short's outside.

Hey, we're going to
get in the wind.

Later.