A Flash of Beauty: Bigfoot Revealed (2022) - full transcript

A Flash of Beauty: Bigfoot Revealed presents interviews from researchers and eyewitnesses. The film covers historical accounts of Bigfoot, the significance within the indigenous cultures, and the emotional impact of a Bigfoot expe...

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- I'm trying to classify
what this thing is,

but it's not real.

And I know what it is, but
what it is is not real.

- I met this river guide

and he ended up telling me,
"Not only is Bigfoot real,

but I've seen them
several times."

- Then it stood up.

And when he stood up,

he took two great big steps
and squatted back down

and started eating again.

That experience alone, I mean,



it'll never, it changed my life.

I'll never, never be the same.

- There could be a subset
of people out there

who have see this,

but you would
never know about it

because their defenses
kicked in and protected them.

- So the thing walked up
to about 200 yards away,

it stopped, looked at them,
turned and walked away.

- I'm as convinced as I can be

short of having stood
there on the sandbar

on that afternoon.

- It took less than a
second for me to realize

what I was looking at
were not people at all.

- Holy crap, that's
a freaking Bigfoot.



And he's like, "Where?"

And I'm like, "Right there!"

- You don't know what to think.

I mean, it's just, you see
something that doesn't exist.

- The hand prints were
roughly eight feet.

- There's a language here

and that is not a human being.

- All of a sudden, my tent
starts getting pushed in.

- You run into them and you
get this flash of beauty

and they are gone.

- As a child growing
up, I was told stories

by my great, great grandparents.

They would take us

up to the woods in the summer

and we would spend
all summer up there.

We weren't allowed to come
back down into civilization.

Antone, my great,
great grandfather,

would give us a rifle.

And we were eight
years old at the time.

And he said, "Go out and I want
you guys to learn the area.

And I want guys to hunt."

It was a lesson
that he taught us

to go out and learn ourselves.

And if we had done anything
wrong, then we were corrected.

While there, he would
also tell us stories

of the areas that
we would visit.

We have many lakes,

a couple of rivers,

and we have Mt. Adams

and he would tell us stories
of how they were created.

And then he would also tell
us stories about Bigfoot.

Growing up, it was
kinda hard to fathom

why is he telling us
stories like this?

But as I grew up, I became a
skeptic because I didn't know.

And then a few years later,

working for the Yakama Nation,

then that's when everything
started happening.

- With regard to
the subject at hand,

Bigfoot, or Sasquatch,

my wife grew up

in Ferndale, Washington,

right next to the Lummi
Indian Reservation.

Where she grew up, there were
so many Bigfoot sightings,

it was just common.

The thought that
Bigfoot was a legend

or maybe did it exist or
not never even came up.

She was 19 and in college
before she met somebody

that doubted the
existence of Bigfoot

and she was astonished

because there wasn't a
question is Bigfoot real.

It was just another
animal in the woods.

- In talking with
indigenous people,

some of the people will say,
you know, the DNA is there.

We are related. We are
related to the Sasquatch.

For them this is really,
it's family, it's a neighbor.

It's that connection.

It's not different for them.

- I read a story by Paul Kane,

an artist who wrote a book

called "Wanderings of an Artist

Among North American Indians".

And it was published about 1890.

This mountain
has never been visited

by either whites or Indians.

The latter assert that it is
inhabited by a race of beings

of a different species
who are cannibals

and whom they hold
in great dread.

These superstitions are taken
from the statement of a man

who they say, went to
the mountain with another

and escaped the fate
of his companion,

who was eaten by the
skookums or evil genii.

I'd offered a considerable
bribe to any Indian,

but could not find one
hearty enough to venture.

- And they would not guide
him there no matter what.

- There are competing hypotheses
about what Sasquatch is,

what its nature is, and
I've approached this subject

from the perspective

of an anthropologist,
an anatomist, biologist.

And so the evidence
that impresses me

that suggests the
existence of this creature

points to it being a
large bipedal primate.

It's particularly
interesting to me,

due to my interest in the
evolution of human bipedalism,

and sharing that habit with
another species of primate,

living alongside us is a unique
and interesting opportunity

of comparison and contrast
to that adaptation.

- We have a being that is
in the biological record,

that is a 10-feet tall,
upright walking ape.

We have thousands of track casts

that Dr. Jeffrey
Meldrum collects.

We have numerous reports
from all kinds of people

over many years in
the United States,

as well as a complete
cultural record

of all indigenous cultures.

- It's the footprint
evidence that drew me in

and likewise, many of my
scientific predecessors,

Dr. Grover Krantz,
Dr. John Napier,

it was the composite data
set of the footprints

that compelled them to
take this matter seriously.

"Something," as Dr. Napier said,

"something is
leaving footprints."

- The Salish BC
call it Dzunukwa.

The Lakota call it Chiye-Tanka.

And they don't talk
about this being

as being separate from us.

Matter of fact, a
lot of them say,

our brother in the forest,

and a lot of them
will actually explain

how there's the fox, the
bear, and the Sasquatch.

It's not different for them.

How do you
feel just sitting here

and looking over
there again right now?

Yeah, it's nuts,
man. It really is, dude.

I'll tell you, I mean,

it's almost breathtaking.

I just, I keep, I
honestly keep wanting so badly

to be like, look guys,

and then everyone
can see it, dude,

but it's never, like it's
killing me right now to be here.

That experience alone,

I mean, it'll never,
it changed my life.

I'll never, never be the same.

We came here
to do a survival video

for our YouTube channel
back in 2020, mid-October.

We set a camp up on this
side of the mountain.

We had turned our cameras off,

our batteries were running low.

We came down here to
fish for some dinner.

We spent a good half an hour
down here on these rocks

just chit chatting with
a line in the water and-

- Just trying to make
ends meet for the night.

- Yeah, just trying to
get something to eat,

trying to get warm,
get some food.

Austin had noticed a couple
animals over here on this log

that was in the water
and he kinda punched me

and said, "Hey man,
what are those?"

- It was kinda like, "Hey,
you see that over there?"

- Yeah, we, we noticed it.

I didn't know what to
think of it at first.

I was thinking
maybe sow and a cub

and I kinda played it
off for a few minutes

like it's nothing.

And the more I looked,

the more I seen that
it wasn't like a bear.

It was more like a, you know,

- more like a man.
- Human.

Yeah, so hard to explain.

I just can't put it in words.

- The size of it.

It was just remarkable.
- Yeah.

- I mean, larger than
any human I've ever seen.

As soon as you
realize that it wasn't

some kind of animal that you
would normally see out here,

it kinda just like took
everything outta your body.

Just took your whole breath away

and everything just went silent.

You know, you didn't
really hear anything

but what your thoughts were.

- I had a whole career as
a wildlife conservationist

and ended up
working for 27 years

for the tribes.

Over a very long time as I
earned the trust of the tribes,

more and more stories
would come my way,

more and more information,

more and more stories

about where Sasquatch were found

on the res.

And after I became sort of a
trusted mascot of the tribe,

I got a lot of
information just from them

about what they are
and what they want

and where they live.

There's a lot of
films and photos

that are taken that
are never shared

outside of Indian Country.

Bigfoot stories are owned by
the long house that has them

and they do not share with
other members of their tribe

that are in another long house.

It's all Balkanized
within the tribe

as far as Bigfoot stories go

because they're considered
property that a long house owns.

It's like a copyright.

You can't use that
story 'cause they own it

and they don't tell
it to anybody else.

So an outsider like
me in some cases

has more access to those stories

because I am not
seen as a threat

and not seen as something
that you have to compete with.

For example, Vancouver
Island, the Kwakwaka<wakw,

who used to be
called the Kwakiutl,

that tribe has a lot
of Sasquatch contact.

They have a secret society
called the Hamatsa,

which is a hereditary clan

where it's the Wild Man
society in the tribe.

If you're a member
of the Hamatsa,

you can put a Dzunukwa,

which is their
word for Sasquatch,

at the bottom of your totem pole

because totem poles
are read upside down.

The thing closest to the ground
is the most important totem

in the totem pole.

- The story poles are influenced

by the Wild Man
and the Wild Woman.

There's a relationship there

and it must be a really
close relationship.

For them, this is
really, it's family.

It's a neighbor.

I asked some of the
tribal historians,

people that might be
in tune or in touch

with this information.

And I said, "Who were
you emulating with
these head shapes?"

The answer was more than not,

usually the forest
people, the Sasquatch.

When you are in
touch and in tune

with our indigenous
communities in the region,

you will observe

that most of the culture
up and down the coast

is related to the Wild
Man, the Wild Woman.

A lot of the family crests

are related to the Wild
Man, the Wild Woman.

A lot of the
ceremonies are related

to the Wild Man
and the Wild Woman.

The mask artistically,
the regalia,

is related to the Wild
Man and the Wild Woman.

I'm not speaking for
the Native communities.

I don't want to represent
them in any way.

I really feel that if you
wanna know more about this

through oral tradition
or through the
stories or culturally,

then you need to take
the step to do that.

If we can really bridge
the gap with peoples,

we could learn a lot
about this topic.

- In 1840, there
was a missionary

that was out in the
Oregon Territory.

His name was Elkanah Walker.

The Native Americans out
there were telling him

about the giants
that would come down,

steal their salmon.

And he was writing
back to his church

back on the east coast in
New England I believe it was

telling what the Indians
were sharing with him

and how these giants smell bad

and were very strong and
had like 18-inch tracks.

Elkanah Walker

in April of 1840 wrote,

"I suppose you will bear
with me if I trouble you

with a little of
this superstition

which has recently
come to my knowledge.

They believe in the
existence of a race of giants

which inhabit a certain
mountain off to the west of us.

This mountain is covered
with perpetual snow.

They inhabit its top.

They hunt and do all of
their work in the night

and they cannot
see in the daytime.

They come to the people's
lodges in the night

when the people are
asleep and take them

and put them under their skins

and take them to
their place of abode

without even waking.

When they wake in the morning,

they're wholly lost,

not knowing in what
direction their home is.

The account that they
give of these giants,

well, in some measure,

correspond with the Bible
account of this race of beings.

They say their track is about
a foot and a half long."

- I started in the
Bigfoot field in 1956.

I was trekking in the Himalaya,

a small expedition,
to look for the Yeti

and made contact

with this Texan called
Tom Slick, this oil man.

He became a very good friend.

So to make a long story short,

I signed up with him
and I spent three years

in the Himalaya
looking for the Yeti.

When I came down from that,

he invited me to
come to the States.

He said, "You spent
enough time up there,

come to the States
and look for Bigfoot."

Well, I have to say I laughed.

But I came over here and got
into the search for Bigfoot.

In the whole history of Bigfoot,

there's been one
piece of footage,

16mm footage, taken by two men,

Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin.

Patterson has died, passed away.

I met him, interviewed
him half a dozen times

before he died.

He came across to me
as thoroughly credible.

His associate Bob Gimlin

is a man of great integrity,

very much admired.

He lives in Washington still.

And I believe his
story of what happened,

the whole thing.

- And Peter Byrne
ran an organization

called the Bigfoot
Research Project.

And I became part of his project

and we paid for a
group of scientists

to analyze the Patterson film

and prove that it was a
guy in a gorilla suit.

So we dropped about $500,000
and we couldn't do it.

We really tried to
use pure science

and approach it
with hard science.

- The Patterson-Gimlin
film clearly stands

as the most compelling
photographic evidence

that we have to date.

Even in this age of iPhones

and digital cameras
and so forth,

it still has set
the mark so high.

And not only do
we have the film,

but we have a remarkable track
record associated with it.

The cast that Roger
Patterson executed himself

on the day of the filming,

but also some number
of days later,

Bob Titmus, a
researcher from Canada,

came to the scene
and made a series

of 10 footprint casts that
provided a remarkable record.

But having the image
of the track maker,

combined with the
tracks, as an anatomist,

as a functional morphologist,

I'm as convinced as I can be

short of having stood there on
the sandbar on that afternoon

and witnessed the event myself.

The suggestion that you'd
work around the challenge

of finding an oversized
human male subject

by portraying a female
falls to the wayside

when you scrutinize
the specifics

of what would have
to be a fur suit

and someone to
fill that fur suit,

which is just
virtually impossible,

especially given the
technologies available in 1967.

This is a piece of
evidence that stands up

under remarkable rigor

that couldn't have possibly
anticipated the technologies

that we are applying
to it today.

- We had a great copy.

We could see the muscles
moving under the fur

with the resolution we had.

Everything that we
did find in the film

suggested it was
actual observations

of an uncataloged animal.

There's an occipital
protuberance on the
back of the skull.

And it has a point on
the back of the skull

where all the back
muscles attach.

It was designed
for walking erect,

which is a hominid variation.

So it's not a primate,
it's a hominid.

- Going back to the silly
question people ask,

"Where would they hide?"

The Pacific Northwest
is enormous.

Here we had the Mt.
Hood National Forest,

a million acres,

acres that supply
the essentials:

food, water, cover, and space.

Those four things which
a wild animal requires.

When I lived over in
the Hood River Valley

on my second project, a plane
crashed two miles from me,

a small plane.

It took a year to find it.

We're dealing with
an enormous area

which the pilots tell me
they can't see into it.

They fly over it and
it's a carpet of trees.

You can't see into it.

- I spent 20 years

in the military

looking and analyzing,

maintaining various high
complex medical devices

and IT systems for the
United States government.

It's been very easy for
me to transition that

into the world of analytics
for various topics.

It could be pretty
much anything.

And I've taken kind
of an affinity to
the Bigfoot community

from that perspective.

And then doing the
research and finding out

that less than 30%
of North America

has been actually walked by man.

What is in those
areas of uninhabitable

or untraversable environments,

that's to me all the
more alluring to find out

what's in those areas.

I just had a feeling that there
was something more out there

than what we are knowing.

Scholars of the earth
thought the earth was flat

at one point in time

and we are only surpassed

by our utilization of technology

and our understanding of
science to leapfrog each other

to be able to find things
out that we don't know.

- There's now
always a place to go

and see easily and
interpret or digest data

without reading pages
and pages of reports.

And a map puts those data
points right in front of you.

Maps tell a story immediately
when you see them.

I saw a parallel

where I could use my mapping
abilities and background

to catalog and create
a central repository

for data relating to Bigfoot
sightings and encounters

and make it measurable
and quantifiable

and create a standard
database or a data set

where we can apply big data
concepts and principles.

From Alaska all the
way to Australia,

we have sightings that
have been submitted.

Washington is the
number one state.

866 sightings in
Washington State alone.

And then when you start
to go down the coast

to Washington,
Oregon, California,
Bigfoot thrives here.

- Bigfoot's intelligent.

That's what helps
their being elusive.

They're not a herd of elk.

They're not a pod of whales.

They're hominids
that are intelligent

and they don't wanna be seen,

they're not going to be seen.

Most instances are accidental
when we have witness sightings

Patterns are the
same, wherever you go

that I have found in the
areas that I have researched.

So South, Southeast,
and Northwest,

I have seen no difference
and any kind of patterns.

They're all individuals
just like we are.

You're gonna have grumpy
ones, happy ones, sad ones,

fun ones, grouch, you know.

So I think it's more of
a personality difference

between different
individuals than regions.

They're all different
shapes and sizes and color.

Just like we have
different hair colors.

They're red, brown,
black, white, gray.

- The fact that they have
remained unrecognized

or unestablished as a species

simply rests on their rarity

and other aspects of
their reported behavior.

They're nocturnal, they're
solitary, they're far-ranging,

they're very generalized.

Those are characteristics

of any animal species

that render it very
difficult to study

let alone trap or obtain
a specimen in the wild.

- The first encounter I had
that I know for sure of,

I was six years old.

I was at my grandmother's house.

I was outside
playing in the dirt.

I had sticks and
things gathered up

and I was just sitting
there on the ground playing

when I heard somebody walk up.

I thought it was my grandmother

but when I looked up,

there was a young male
juvenile standing there

And I looked at him
for a little bit

and we stared at each other.

And you know, I go
back and try to think

of what was really
going through my mind.

Was I just looking
at him and saying,

man, that's a really hairy kid

or what was this?

And pretty much I jumped up
after he turned and walked away

and went in and
asked my grandmother,

"What was that?"

And all she said to me was,
"What do you think it was?"

And then later, we
began to talk about it

and she began to tell
me things about them,

things that she had
known all her life.

I've been from coast to coast.

And I've had many encounters.

Some of 'em nothing
more than them

just letting us know.

Some of 'em even more

where I actually
interacted with them.

- In '98, I became
a police officer

for Department of Defense in
Puget Sound Naval Shipyard.

That's where I kinda started
my law enforcement career.

I was 21 years old.

And I worked there
for a couple of years

and then I moved
out to the west end,

out in Forks, and I
became a cop in La Push.

And that's where I had my
first Bigfoot encounter.

I was actually coming into
work on swing shift that day

and I was driving
down La Push Road.

Before you get to
the reservation,

you come to to the
Third Beach Trailhead.

And in fact, within
couple hundred yards,

there was just tons
of people on the beach

around the corner.

And I'm coming down
the hill towards this.

And I'm probably like 70 yards

when I first see this thing.

And then it's just big figure
just steps out of the brush.

And then it just kinda just
glides across the road.

And it doesn't even look at me.

And it took about four
steps and it hit the fence

and it disappeared
into the salmonberries.

When I first saw it, I
was a trained observer,

I'm a police officer.

I'm looking at this giant figure

that was like that thick
from chest to back.

I mean, and huge
eight feet tall,

non-human gait, but humanoid.

And I'm trying to classify
what this thing is,

but it's not real.

And I know what it is, but
what it is is not real.

- April 3rd, 1993,

I was participating in a
military training exercise

and this is an exercise where
we use a lot of explosives

in our training,
utilizing rock quarries.

We had three explosions to
do that day in the morning.

And it was shortly
after we set the fuses

on that third and
final blast of the day

that we would get
in our vehicles,

we'd convoy down to a
safety staging area,

wait for the explosion, and
come back and check our work.

I was situated as a
passenger behind a driver

of the second Humvee.

As we rounded this one corner,

I had a direct line of sight

to the second blast site.

We came around that corner,

I'm looking down there

and there's like
these three very dark,

very large figures standing

three abreast of each other,

watching us come down the road
across the ravine from them.

My first thought was,

what are those people
doing down there?

There's not supposed to
be civilians in the area.

It took less than a second

for me to realize

what I was looking at
were not people at all.

The arms of these things
went well below their knees,

unbelievably long arms,
very broad shoulders,

barrel chest, tapered waist.

The legs were
quite long as well.

The one in the middle
was I would estimate

about nine feet in height.

And the two that flanked
it left and right

were probably seven and
a half to eight feet.

The one in the middle though,

he stood there like a
rock, just like a statue.

He, it just did not flinch.

But the two on either
side of this larger one

exhibited this behavior where
they were shifting weight

from foot to foot

and in the process rocking
left to right like this,

these long arms were swinging

in front of their knees.

And they did that the
entire time I saw them.

After say 25
seconds had elapsed,

seemed like an eternity,

we rounded another corner
and I lost sight of 'em.

And just at that, I just
slumped back in my seat,

and I'm just trying to,

trying to comprehend
what I just saw.

- July 1st, 2021.

I'm in Idaho with my buddy, Jim,

and what you'll
see here's his rig.

Anyway, just a
couple minutes ago,

I saw a huge giant Sasquatch
standing right there.

Only saw it for a second or two

through the trees as we drove by

and then Jim backed up and
he caught a glimpse of it

and then it was gone.

We packed up camp and
we started heading

down the forest service
road that follows the creek

and I said to Jim, I go,

"I wouldn't be surprised
if we saw a Bigfoot family

standing right in the
middle of the road."

And we kinda laughed.

And about a half a
mile down the road,

I'm keeping an eye on the creek
as we're driving real slow

about 15 miles an hour,

and I see this huge figure

and I could see
these huge shoulders.

And I said to Jim,

"Stop, I see a huge
moose. Back up."

And I said, "I mean, I see
a huge Sasquatch. Back up."

And he goes, we backed
up a little bit.

And he says, "Oh, I see it too."

It had stood up and you
could just still just see

the massive shoulders

and the body came
in a little bit

and it was just super
big and super thick

all the way to the water.

I think it was
standing in the creek.

One second it's there

and in the blink of an eye,

it's just not there anymore.

- Really like the outdoors.

I've always hunted,
fished, camped,

done it with my
family growing up,

being married and having kids
and we do the same thing.

Been into archery,
pretty hardcore

since I was about 14 years old.

I've seen cougars

in the woods.

I've seen bear deer, elk, moose,

lotta smaller game, fox
and stuff like that.

There's not too many animals
in Oregon that I haven't seen.

Labor Day weekend, 2019.

I'd been going over to
this particular area

in Eastern Oregon
for couple months

since about mid-May.

I sat down by this water trough.

As a hunter, you're
always playing the wind.

You always hunt with
the wind in your face.

So I was set up that
night, wind in my face,

and I'm kind of sitting
there and out of the,

off to my left, I just catch
a little bit of movement.

So I kinda turned
my eyes real slow

and my head real
slow over to look.

And I see a head pop
out and go right back.

And so in my head I thought,

oh, it's a hunter,
another hunter.

But I thought to myself,
that's kinda weird.

I never heard him come in

and I should've
heard him come in.

So I just kinda kept
staring at that same spot.

And then it stuck its head out.

And it was what, you know,

doesn't exist supposedly.

Bigfoot sticks its
head out, stares at me

for probably 10 to 15 seconds

and then slowly
pulls his head back.

I just sat there dumbfounded

like what in the
hell did I just see?

These things don't exist.

I've been in the
woods long enough.

I know of what I've seen.

I knew it was not a bear.

Absolutely 100% not a bear.

So I sat there for, like I
said, probably five minutes

just kinda trying to
gather my thoughts

and get my wits about me.

- I've had a
physical experience.

I put a infrared alarm
system up seven feet

and it will only go
off at seven feet.

At midnight,

my alarm goes off.

I'm up, going
through the ceiling.

The dog's sitting up.

And something's
going around my tent.

And it's going.

And you could hear footfall
as it's going around my tent.

The dog jumps in my face,

goes down into the
bottom of my mummy bag.

I'm scratched up all to pieces.

I'm laying there.

And it stops behind me.

All of a sudden my tent
starts getting pushed in.

And then contact on
the back of my head.

Its palm was at the
base of my neck.

Its thumb right here.

The top of the hand right here,

as it's gently
manipulating my head,

pushing through my tent.

So I go, "What am I gonna
do, what am I gonna do,

what am I gonna do?"

I grabbed my keys for my truck

and I burped the
alarm system on it.

And it backed away.

- In June 2019, seven
loggers were working

place called the
Wilson River Drainage.

And they're in a closed
area which is all gated.

The public does
not get in at all.

They were working with two
very loud pieces of machinery.

One was pulling logs up a hill.

The other was loading
them into trucks.

Tremendous noise.

One of them stops and says,

"Who's that walking down
the road towards us?"

And about 300 yards away,

they say a Sasquatch, a Bigfoot,

was walking down
the road in midday.

These are working loggers.
These are not tourists.

None of them had a camera.

So the thing walked up
to about 200 yards away.

It stopped, looked at them,
turned and walked away.

They said it was seven
feet tall at least,

400, 450 pounds, enormous,

dark brown in color, swinging
its arms, walking upright.

And when it stopped,
stopped like this,

with its hands out,
looked at them,

turned and walked away.

We believe these
things are nocturnal.

So my theory there is the
noise of the machinery

got it up and moving

and it didn't know where
the noise is coming from,

which happens with wild
animals very often.

They can't pinpoint sound.

And started moving, saw the
loggers, and walked away.

They called it the
Seven Man Sighting.

I got into the area
with great difficulty,

got permission, went in there,

spent a whole day,
found some footprints,

great big footprints in a
shallow stream bed nearby.

This is seven
down-to-earth loggers

with 20 or more
years of experience.

They're not mistaking something.

They knew what they saw.

- The way it started for me

was my son actually ended
up finding a single track

deep in the icy mud

outside of the town
of Thurston, Oregon.

And I thought, well,
maybe it's a hoax,

maybe it's legit,

but for us it was a bigger
question of what if?

You know, I'd always
loved a good mystery.

And I thought, well,
I'll introduce Jude

to a really cool mystery.

And so, it just so happened
that one of our neighbors

filmed a movie about
Bigfoot back in the '70s,

loosely based on
Patterson-Gimlin.

And he looked at the photo,

which we had had the mind to
put a scale object next to

to show size.

And he said, "You know,
it's interesting enough.

It could be a hoax, but I know
somebody you can talk to."

And so I met this river guide

and he ended up telling me
after our initial meeting

that "Not only is Bigfoot real,

but I've seen them
several times.

In fact, they come to my house."

Which was a whole new phenomena.

I had no idea that you could
be a witness multiple times

and then be an
extended experiencer

or someone who quite
literally has Bigfoot

in their own backyard.

That right there was really
the trigger point for me

to meet my first
extended experiencer,

which Darrell would
end up becoming

the ultimate
extended experiencer.

- When I first moved to the
house down here below us,

I would hear things at night
up in these hills right here.

It prompted me to
look for someone

that knew what those
sounds might be

'cause they were so strange.

- Darrell wanted
to meet a local.

He had just moved to town

and he didn't really
know any locals here

that were into such a
strange subject or hobby.

And so that's when we
met and we hit it off.

And so we set up
a kind of a date

to meet up at his house.

And that's when
things kinda took off.

- My first sighting
was Christmas Day 1993.

Myself and two nephews went
for a drive looking for deer

and had the usual 15-second
roadside sighting.

The thing was balled
up in a root mass,

stood up and looked at
us, thoroughly annoyed.

I was only about
20 to 30 feet away

and stepped out of the
blow down in two steps,

which was a feat in itself,

and walked into the forest.

I told the boys
it was a big bear.

I didn't even wanna
really think about it.

That was that.

The biggest thing is
to stay awake at night.

Some nights the forest is alive.

It generally has to do
with phases of the moon.

And then we found out that
with proper enticements,

offerings, occasionally
one of these things

would come into camp.

- Let me show you this map.

I'll give you a little bit

of background and provenance.

Can I just hold it up like this?

Yeah, this map was up
somewhere around 12 years

in the BLM office, Bureau
of Land Management office,

in North Bend, Oregon.

And I learned about it from
federal and state officials

that were conversant
in that office.

And so they would
talk to me about it.

And I would say, "I'd sure
like to see that map."

And I'd kinda got nowhere

but there was one
federal official

and I would work
sometimes on his plumbing.

And finally he sent me a
screenshot of it and this is it.

And I think the following
year they took it down

when they found out that
it had been disseminated.

This is a collection
of, among other things,

stories where I am confided in

by my plumbing customers
in their homes,

where they have a Bigfoot story

that they would like
to tell somebody

but they can't and
everyone understands why.

There's a stigma about the
whole thing in many circles

and so what I do
very purposefully

is I let my customers know,

'cause they all know
me, I'm their plumber.

They've known me for many years.

I let them know that I know
that the Bigfoot are very real.

It's not controversial
or it shouldn't be.

Even if in the
beginning, they'll say,

"Well, no, I don't
believe in that stuff."

It's the funniest thing.

Maybe like a half hour later
as I'm doing their plumbing job

and we're conversing,
they'll say,

"Well, here's what
happened to me."

And they'll tell me their story.

And I have a whole
collection of them in here.

Many stories from very,
very credible people

in this area.

Probably I would say anecdotally

more of my customers have had

some kind of a Bigfoot encounter

than have had cougar encounters

'cause it's very
rare to see a cougar.

There's a family of Bigfoot
that has lived for years

at the county dump.

When the lights go out
and the gate is locked

and there's no one
there at the dump,

the Bigfoot come in every night

and there's a smorgasbord there

'cause they're the only animals
that can get into the pit

and back out.

A local historian
and cartographer with
considerable effort,

gotten a few of the
employees at the dump

to admit that the
Bigfoot are there.

This right here is a
photograph that was given to me

of a trail cam.

This is just maybe a
half hour from here.

It's a family, a very,
a reputable family

that owns land all over here

and they're hunters and so
they set out trail cams.

And they took this photograph,

probably I think
10 years ago or so,

and they never
showed it to anybody.

And then they decided to
entrust it to their plumber.

That would be me.

There's a man and woman
that I know here in town

and they're pretty
well-known, great people.

They were camping with
friends for four days

on the Elk River.

And he sent me a
photograph that they got

while they were there.

He said, "We watched
this for awhile,

but it was an obviously
a juvenile ape.

It looked like an
adult old chimpanzee

that was just hanging

out up in a dead
old growth tree."

You can look at this and think,

okay, either it's some sort of
a gnarly growth on that tree

that looks exactly
like a chimpanzee.

And he said, "We
watched it for awhile."

But he said the thing
that was more remarkable

was the noises that the
apes would make at night.

And he said they would
make this loud gibberish

and howling and
barks and whistles

and just all these noises
they would make at night.

It was rather disconcerting.

- This all began for me in 1971

when I was invited into
the camp where these guys

had been experiencing these
horrific sounds around the camp.

It was a nightly thing

and I started going up there.

Eight miles in the wilderness,

a very imposing area

in the Sierra Nevada
Mountains of California.

And nobody up there was
looking for Bigfoot.

It just really wasn't that way.

Because we had repeated
the visits up there,

we started taking
cassette tape recorders

and recording the sounds.

There's two of 'em across
the creek at the big rocks.

- I spent a career in the Navy

as a cryptolinguist,

a translator of Russian,
Spanish, and Persian.

I played it and I
immediately knew.

I could hear it.

And I was stunned.

There's a language here!

And that is not a human being.

The articulation of the phonemes

are virtually the
same as humans.

They make the same
sounds that we do,

ah, with about six
or seven extra ones

that I've never heard a
human make in any language.

It would be impossible

to fake something like this.

- And according to Dr. Lieberman
in 1968 at Brown University

only humans have the
apparatus for language

like we have.

That separates us from
all the other animals

in the kingdom of this earth.

So that tells me something,

something pretty significant.

If they have the vocal
mechanism for language,

maybe they got some
human component to them.

- Skepticism is a useful tool,

but they'll say, "Well, why
don't we have a skeleton?

Why don't we have something?"

And there are several
reasons for that.

One is because the government
isn't going to release

the skeletons because
it would be a disaster.

As that same government
official told me,

"We have to keep
it as a legend."

If we ever tried
to pull the trigger

on the Endangered Species Act,

we can't because you have to
be able to count the population

and they are too intelligent
and elusive to do so.

And then we would end up
with a bunch of primates

out in the woods with guns,
hunting larger primates,

and it would not go well.

And so the government
is well served

by keeping it as a legend.

The chaotic effect
of the invocation

of the Endangered Species
Act over something like that

would be catastrophic.

It'd be terrible.

And so good governance
and good management

is to keep it as a legend.

- There have been quite a
few reports that I've gotten

over the years of Bigfoot.

I have gotten one, maybe
two, in the last few years

that I thought were worth
taking a closer look at.

I've heard of people
thinking that,

or mistaking bears
for Sasquatch.

I've never gotten any reports

of Bigfoot or Sasquatch

in my professional career

that I determined
was actually a bear.

And that has happened
in other cases

in other parts of the
Pacific Northwest.

- I've heard questions
from many people out there,

skeptics, about
where are the bones?

Where are the bodies?
Why haven't we found one?

My major's Forestry. I've
got my degree in Forestry.

If anybody knows
anything about decomp,

animals, ants, whatever,

things decompose so quickly.

Small animals they eat
the bone for the calcium

in the marrow.

Okay, everything is
consumed on an animal

when it dies in the woods.

Seven to 10 days
every trace is gone.

Every trace is gone of
any kind of an animal.

- So it just speaks
to the unlikelihood

of finding remains of animals

out in nature.

Nature has a way of
recycling those resources

in a very efficient
and very prompt manner.

- Western culture wants a body.

Biologists want a body.

They want bones.

They want a hair sample,

all these sorts of physical
hard evidences beyond tracks.

I think personally what
it'll take is contact.

It'll take contact.

It'll take someone
who is willing

to create a
relationship with them

and ask them to come forward.

But I don't think
that's going to happen.

They hide for a reason.

And not only do they
hide for a reason,

I'm on the fence about the fact

that they only show themselves

to people that they want
to show themselves to.

- Most of the time,
if I get hair,

it is usually hog
hair, horse hair, deer,

something of that nature.

I personally have never
received actual hair

that could possibly be Bigfoot.

Lot of footprints, hand prints.

My favorite investigation
was back in 2001

at the water reclamation plant

in the St. John's
River Management Area.

They had a lot of
activity going on there.

I went out there
and investigations,

as far as sightings,
vocalizations.

I had received a
phone call saying,

"Hey, we've got these
hand prints on the window

that happened when this thing

was looking in the
window one night."

My pictures were the hand prints

and in some cases you
could actually see the hair

where it pressed
against the window.

The hand print
isn't the full hand.

It was looking in the window.

So it was kinda like
had bent fingers,

but I got good palm and thumbs

and the tips of the
fingers in some cases.

It wasn't just the, I mean, it
was like he moved his hands,

okay, or he leaned
against the window

so you could see the hair
impressions on the window.

This is my favorite.

This is obviously skin

with hair impressions on it.

The hand prints and
the imprints I received

a lot of oil in them.

This is Debbie who
was my witness.

She's pointing way up here
where the hand prints were.

And the hand prints

were roughly eight feet

because it moved
around and everything.

She worked graveyard.

She came in from
the back warehouse

of the shop into
the reception area

and there it was looking
at the computer screen,

watching the Windows
little logo thing,

going on it.

And then when she
walked in and saw it

and it saw her movement,

then it kinda stood
up and then took off.

- One of my principles
that I work with

is a Hewkin-Sullivan principle

that you have to spend 200
hours feet on the ground

in a reasonably good area

to have an encounter of any
kind or possibly a sighting.

Jim Hewkin was a State
of Oregon biologist.

Jack Sullivan was
a science teacher.

These guys knew their stuff

and they were very
active from the late '60s

up through the early '90s.

One claimed 12 sightings,

the other one claimed 13.

But they all had the same
characteristics of sightings.

They were very brief.
They were very clear.

They knew exactly
what they're seeing,

and they did not have time
to raise their cameras up

or if they did get
their camera up,

it was too dark to
take a decent picture.

And they refused to
engage in blobsquatch.

Blobsquatching is
these goofy pictures

that people have of
Bigfoot that are shadows

and branches waving
and all kinds of stuff.

- We just got glimpses
every once in a while

and people wanna know why
we didn't get a picture.

That might be one of
the questions that's
gonna get asked.

And I get asked
that all the time.

And we tried, we really
tried to get picture,

but these things
seemed outfox us.

We underestimated
what they were,

underestimated them thoroughly.

They move inhumanly fast.

The one I saw was shooting
down through the trees.

The two other ones that
were making sounds out here,

we feel like it was an
adolescent and a mother.

That's what we think,
a family of three.

- This event that I'm
gonna talk about now

has to do with a
nest that I found

while I was at work
with two other people.

And this looked just
like a bird's nest.

It was on a hillside
that was about 60 to 70%.

And what built this nest

had opposable thumbs.

But when animals make beds,

they slide everything out

to the bare soil.

So you've got this mound
of debris around it,

but you have a clear
down to mineral soil.

But what I found here

was tree branches

that were woven together.

These branches were
broken off tree,

two, three trees,
whatever, in the area

and they used that as
their building material

and everything was intertwined
all the way around.

So I knew what built
this had thumbs.

Coulda been a hunter.

I found hairs that were
anywhere from an inch

to about two inches long.

These hairs had
multicoloration to 'em.

They were light at the
bottom and then it got brown,

blonde, and then there
were a few that were dark.

So it was multicolored.

And I showed 'em to my partners

and they were just
flabbergasted.

They were just out, it
was out of this world

what we were looking at.

- In the Mt. Hood
National Forest,

there are billions,

literally billions
of broken branches.

They're caused by
all kinds of stuff.

So occasionally you may find

a trunk or something
of that nature

that's been twisted and
braided by a Bigfoot,

probably as a territorial sign.

- There, right back in there.

- Oh yeah.

Whoa.

- We got some.

- That is whoa.

- So these were brought here.

I mean, you can see
how they're all placed.

This is incredible.

Here we
go. Look at this.

It's due north.

- Yeah.

When people say they
see tree structures,

they see symbols
that mean something,

something that is made
with hands and order.

It, I mean, it takes
a lot more for me.

It takes this to say,

you know, there's nothing
here that would cause

one, two, three,
four, five, six logs

all going the same direction

and then this fencing pattern.

- Uh huh.

- What if it was not due north?

What if it was slightly
away from due north

to northwest, to northeast,

but it's exactly due
north on the zero.

- It comes to a point like
it is pointing to something.

You know, these
have been brought here.

- Right? No, it's very
obvious they've been brought.

Like this isn't pushed over.

I don't think this
is pushed over.

No.

It's not, see.

- There's no root system here.
- Yeah.

This is not pushed
over. It's been placed.

So who knows what
exists around this area?

I mean, it just,

it takes time.
- And this one is actually

intricately interwoven
with this one.

You have to like, you have
to take steps to get to this.

- You know, you just
kinda feel like something-

- You can't help but feel like
they could

- Thinks this is important.

- do this, yeah.

- Or they did think it was
important to build this.

I don't think hunters
built a blind here.

I don't think hunters
would go through this.

Honestly, think

what we're dealing with

is a relic hominid of some sort.

We've had Cro-Magnon
and Neanderthal,

slightly different subspecies,
if you will, of hominid.

- Bigfoot is going to
be part of our genus

and that's gonna, it's
gonna scare some people,

it's gonna excite other people.

I'm gonna be excited.

And I don't think anybody
can really predict

what's gonna happen.

It's gonna be a free-for-all.

It's gonna be...

a little unnerving probably.

- I didn't know what they were

when I first got into this.

I would read the books
and they would say,

we all branched
off from the same

and there's different branches

as the generations progress.

But to me, we're all the same.

And they're the purest
human on this earth yet.

And what I mean by that

is that they're living the life

as they were given it.

They are living as they
have from the very beginning

so they are the purest form
of human left on this earth.

- Their survival depends on
us not knowing about them.

We bring disease,
we bring violence,

we bring lack of understanding,

we bring lack of compassion.

And then I'm on the fence about,

can we actually hurt them?

I don't think we can
hurt them per se.

But I do think we can
destroy their environment.

We're destroying our own
environment, let alone theirs.

- Frankly, I feel their
discovery is inevitable.

There's no question,
as a living being,

they're also a dying being,

and whether they die by age

or disease or injury,

they're gonna die
one time and another.

And I think it's
inevitable, extremely rare,

but inevitable, we
will find a body.

As difficult a is to
find a living Bigfoot,

somewhere out there

there's a body.

- I know a lot of people
think it comes down

to the spotted owl situation
we had back in the '90s.

So if there's this
undiscovered primate

living in the woods now

and okay, now they
say, yeah, it's here.

Well, how much land do we
have to set aside for him?

So does that affect logging?

Is that gonna affect
recreational areas?

Is that gonna affect
hunting grounds?

What's the grand scheme
that it's gonna affect?

It very well could be a
coverup. It very well could be.

- I think they know
more than we do.

I don't think they
wanna put money into it.

As far as they're concerned

it's something out there
and it's not going to,

as long as they don't
show it attention,

it's not gonna affect
the economic portion

of government and
states and cities

because that's
their main concern,

not as much science.

It's how it's going
to affect the economy

of their particular area.

- Let's say that Bigfoot
was discovered in the state

and what was determined

is that there's an existing
population of them here

and that the animal is an
indigenous animal in Oregon.

In that case, jurisdiction
for management of the animal

would fall with Oregon
Department of Fish and Wildlife.

The animal would be listed
under the Protected Animals List

through the Oregon
administrative rules.

It's possible that some other
agency or some other entity,

or maybe an individual

could petition with the US
Fish and Wildlife Service

for that animal to be included

in the Federal
Endangered Species List,

in which case significant
amount of protections

would be afforded the animal.

- If there's an
undocumented humanoid

living in North America,

and obviously with the
thousands of encounters

that's occurred
since pre-history,

that's well established
that there is,

I mean, it means that
they would dedicate

and exhaust all available
resources to find out

as much information

as possible about that
undocumented humanoid.

It's by definition a threat
to national security.

They would use all resources
and exhaust all of them

to find out everything they
possibly could about it.

I have no doubt whatsoever
that they've done that.

I can tell you that
no Bigfoot researcher

that I know of has been
contacted by a government agent

that wanted to know the
information that they had

or what they knew.

Which tells me that
the information that
they already have

is much greater than
anything that we know.

I do know that the US government

has knowledge of the Sasquatch.

I ended up becoming an
intelligence officer

in the United States Army

and I worked specifically
with the 2nd Ranger.

I do know for fact
that the 2nd Ranger

had on many occasions had
to take out a few Sasquatch

just for public safety.

Sometimes people
aren't paying attention

to what the forest
is telling them.

I personally didn't go
out in the field with them

but I saw the after
action review reports

and I do know just from
the ones that I saw

there were four taken,

and they were also taken to
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

for the autopsy.

I don't think it's really
a national security thing.

I think it's more of
a financial thing.

I think they're worried
about the financial impact

of these things could
have to small communities

around the country.

- It was the most amazing
thing I've ever seen in my life

and most frightening thing

I've ever experienced in
my life all in one bundle.

I can't seem to keep my eyes
out of the trees when I'm here.

I just wanna see it again
so bad I can't handle it.

Trying to tell the story
and put it in perspective

for someone to understand
is, it's really hard to do.

It's just something
that I wish everyone

that wanted to see
Bigfoot or was curious

could see it for themselves.

- That's why I think
opening up our story

that we have had would
be able to express that

what people may think that's
not something that's real,

might be able to be like, okay,

I can actually ease
my mind a little bit

and be like what I saw was real.

- The way it pulled
its little one,

it's young behind
it with its arm.

- In a protective fashion.
- In a protective fashion,

was just, it was crazy.

I, my first thing
I thought was like,

this thing's
protecting something

and it's not, I mean, I
can't even put in words,

it was so unreal.

- There's nothing out there

that I have experienced
out in the wilderness

that can move and have

the parental effects

that they had towards its own.

- Protecting its
young like a human,

like I would, like pull
my daughter behind me

in a bad situation, you know.

It was like a dark cinnamon.

Yeah, it was
definitely, it was not black.

It was not what
I've heard people.

It was not what you hear
every day from people,

like this thing was
cinnamon colored.

It had every feature
that you would see,

like if you went to a
zoo and saw a gorilla.

- The arm length
was basically double

of what our arm length was.

- Yeah, it was too its knees,

below its knees almost.
- Easily, easily.

Once they seen us and
once we kinda locked eyes

for that what seemed
to be an eternity,

they moved off the
logs and they kinda hid

along the tree line there.

- You could see
through the trees,

you could see that thing moving

but once it got
behind the trees,

there was nothing.

It was like it just
disappeared in thin air.

- It almost was in
the feeling that it,

they wanted us to see it.

- Yeah.

- Like if I think that if
we did have the equipment,

the cameras, anything like that-

- We wouldn't have seen it.

- Not at all.

We wouldn't have-
- I think if we would've had

our cameras rolling,
we wouldn't have seen.

- They would've never,
never allowed us to.

- Chad and Austin were
gonna come out here

and film a survival
YouTube video

and it was gonna be like
a 24-hour overnight thing

and they didn't want
me to come pick 'em up.

They wanted to do
it all on their own.

And when they went to
go call me at midnight,

first I was upset

and I said, "No, I'm not gonna
come and pick you guys up."

And hung up, they called back.

And when I met them down
at the bottom of the road,

I could just see
it in Chad's eyes

and in the 12 years
we've been together,

I've never seen him that scared.

I definitely am a strong
believer in Bigfoot now.

And it's something that
I know Chad and Austin

will never forget
as well as myself.

- There are many aspects
to what you would consider

quote, a Sasquatch experience.

One of them

is unbelievable fear.

When you talk to somebody
who's had an experience,

most often they're gonna
tell you they have this fear

that is just, they
can't even describe it.

Another is out of
context emotions.

We don't have a mental construct
for these kinds of beings

'cause we're not taught this.

So we're not open to it.

We're only told what exists
and what does not exist.

So our belief
system is such a way

that if something comes in
to our context and leaves,

then we don't a mental
construct for it.

A lot of people cannot handle

that psychologically,
mentally, or emotionally

because it challenges everything
that they've been taught.

- Making eye contact with
something that doesn't exist,

it's...

You just don't
know what to think.

I mean, I didn't
know what to do.

I didn't know who to go talk to

because, you know, I don't
wanna be the crazy one.

I talk to grown men who
will stand there and cry

over what they've seen.

They won't go back
in the woods to hunt.

There was one gentleman
who was a foreman

for a construction crew and
he wouldn't go back to work

for a few days because
of what he saw.

And his wife said he
never missed a day of work

in his life before that.

He knows what black
bears look like.

He knows what's in the forest.

And he says he saw a Bigfoot
and he saw it up close.

- I start to feel like
betrayal I guess I would say

because I start to
think about the fact

that I'm a trained professional,
a trained observer.

I just happened to see something

that's not supposed to be real

and my whole world is in
disarray at this moment

because I'm driving
away from this thing,

having to deal
with a realization

on something that isn't
supposed to be real

that I just happened to
have an encounter with,

real as day.

Like how come I just
had to see this thing

and I'm never told
about it before?

Only as a fairy tale.

I never believed in him
or anything like that.

- My name is Dr.
Michael Adamse and I'm

a clinical psychologist.

I trained conservatively
at the University of Miami,

Yale University
School of Medicine.

I served in the Army
Reserve in the Medical Corp,

and finally, primarily
in my private practice,

and to this date, probably

over 90,000 direct
clinical patient hours.

We all have
psychological defenses.

They allow us to go
through the world

and navigate our experiences.

So everybody has them.

Anybody who has normal
interactions in the world

has to have
psychological defenses.

They're not either good
or bad, they just are.

So when we talk about
rationalization,

that's where we take an event
that's happened in our life

and we just rationalize it.

For example, we see something
strange out in the woods

and we go, no, it can't
be that, it must be this.

And they discard their
original impression

and rationalize it.

No, I couldn't have seen
what I just saw, right?

So there's rationalization.

And then there's
suppression and repression.

Suppression is a conscious act

where I just saw something,

I experienced something,
but it's disturbing to me

so I am not gonna talk
to other people about it

and I'm not gonna even maybe
admit it much to myself.

I don't wanna relive
what I just experienced.

Repression, on the other hand,

is an unconscious process

where we push it so deeply down

where we're not aware of it,

we don't even think about it.

So you may have a subset
of people out there

who experienced Bigfoot,
Sasquatch if you will,

who really don't remember
the experience in some cases,

or remember it and push it down.

So there could be a subset
of people out there again

who have seen this

but you would
never know about it

because their defenses
kicked in and protected them.

- If someone's seen Bigfoot

and they want to recall
more information,

absolutely hypnosis
gives us that tool.

A lot of things happen when
we have a traumatic experience

or we have an
emotional experience.

Our mind is recording
all of this stuff

and it happens rapidly.

So if we can

slow it down using hypnosis,

we can say, okay, what happened?

Stop that, freeze
frame it, zoom in.

We can do all those things.

The unconscious mind can
really do all those things.

So yes, we can get
a lot more details.

And if it's traumatic
or emotional,

there's a bunch of information.

We have different minds that
have different functions.

There's the conscious mind.

It's what we call volatile.

It's the one that says, oh,
I've got an appointment,

I need to be there.

Or is this something that I
should be watching or doing?

It's that questioning
part of us?

It's also the part that
says let's go have fun.

95% of your perceptions
and your behaviors

are controlled by
your unconscious mind.

So everything that's going on,

every moment of day,

your unconscious
mind is recording.

And it is literally filing it.

When we go to sleep,

the stuff that has value gets
shuffled to long-term memory.

If it had an emotional
component to it

or a traumatic component to it,

it gets shuffled deliberately

into long-term because
we need to know

that it has value.

If that experience was
traumatic, created fear,

we need to know about it

so that if it happens
again, we're prepared.

Oh, there he goes.

- You see an event that is
possibly even traumatic,

but we see a profound event,

what we're likely to do
is take a still frame

and a moving shot
of that experience

and we're going to archive
that in our brains.

And it gets seared in the
sense that it is permanent,

it's a permanent image because
it's so profound for us

and it's so out
of the box for us.

So we put it in our minds,

we park it there and we will
keep that seared, if you will,

in our memories for
the rest of our lives.

- I really obsessed on
it for like 30 days,

30 or, few months almost

I was like looking for
answers, you know what I mean?

And finally, I
just with my kids,

I just got distracted in
life and my wife and stuff,

it just kinda slipped
away and I kinda just,

anytime we'd go out for
or a trip in the mountains

or down fishing by the river,
it would pop right back up

in my mind.

I would look down the river
or something like this

and I'd just see a flashback

of almost picturing something
standing down there.

It could really put somebody
in a bad state of mind

if they were to experience
what I experienced.

It can be very traumatizing.

- Like Chad said, me and
him talk to each other

when we get into those
moments, you know, like it-

- Yeah, 11, 12 o'clock at night.

- It don't matterwhat time is,

Just ring the phone, you know?

- 'Cause it almost made you feel

like you were gonna go insane.

It'll never leave you.

You will always
have that with you.

You will always
remember that moment.

- One of my biggest takeaways

from starting the
Bigfoot Mapping Project

is how many people
have had experiences

that because of places

where they couldn't
access somewhere to report

or somebody to talk to,

or they didn't feel comfortable,

now they have it.

So the biggest takeaway would be

that it's a big
anthropological movement.

It's just not just
about Bigfoot.

It's about the impact
it's had on the culture.

And you can take that away

from the stories
people have to tell.

When I set out
starting the project,

I did not expect to
get such emotional

and impactful reports.

I expected people
to be pretty dry.

- I will say that a
good percentage of them,

there's a level
of underlying fear

because they don't
know what this is.

It's making noise,
it's moving past them,

or they see it and
it's moving away.

It's not something that
our unconscious mind

or our conscious mind is
really set to register.

So they can start
out a bit fearful.

They can start out with a
little bit of hesitation.

I have had people
go from that to awe

that, oh my gosh, this
is an incredible creature

that it's amazing.

I had one client talk
about how muscular it was

and how broad its shoulders were

and how it's like
just was in awe

of this incredibly
majestic creature.

I had another client
that I worked with

who actually began to cry.

And I said, "What's
happening now?"

And his response
was so beautiful.

He says, "I realize that I
will never see these again."

That was powerful.

- I don't entertain
a lot of motives

when it comes to the skeptic,
'cause they're impure.

I mean, if people really
wanna know something

and they're skeptical because
they doubt, that's natural.

I can deal with that.

But if people want
to mock and they want

to have their
punchline and to say,

"Oh, you didn't do your
homework, you're lazy."

Well, they don't
know what I know

and that's good enough for me.

I know what I know and it's
made me a better person.

This isn't everybody's journey.

Not everybody's supposed
to take the red pill.

And you have to let
those people go.

You can't force this
message down their throat.

And sometimes they're skeptics,

but sometimes they're A-holes.

- If you want to ignore
the thousands of reports

that are out there,
you can do that.

But does that mean
everybody's lying,

everybody's screwed up?

What does that mean

about all these people
that are saying this

all over the world, and
all over the United States?

All of the Pacific Northwest
now people are saying

they see these things.

Open up your minds
because they're out there.

- As you start
utilizing the data

and you start seeing
the data tell the story,

the whole story unfolds
right before your eyes.

And it just becomes
evident. This is real.

They can't all be making it up.

The data elements
like who did you tell?

How long did you go

before you actually
shared that encounter?

Many people go many,
many years. Why?

If they saw something and they
felt like it had to be shared

and they were hoaxing, why
would they wait 15 to 20 years

or not even tell their spouse?

But now you're able to pull
that information out of 'em

and you see that
direct correlation

between something
that happened in Maine

all the way something that
happened in Southeast Texas.

And that to me is why the
data is gonna tell the truth

every single time.

- People like to
control their world

or their perception
of the world.

So something that's
outside the range

of their perception
or experience,

some people will reject and
sometimes in a militant manner

and sometimes they'll degrade
somebody or demean somebody

who's had that experience.

And I'll tell you what
underlies the denial, fear.

Fear.

They're fearful of something
they can't identify,

understand, or control.

A person who's too rigid,

too rigid in their
worldview, is crazy

because they can only see the
world through one finite lens.

We call those people
sometimes psychotic

because they've lost
touch with reality.

They only see world in
one simple finite way.

Emotional wellbeing,
mental health

is strongly associated
with flexibility,

the ability to think
outside the box,

to experience different
people, different events,

different circumstances with
not such a critical eye,

but an open eye.

Those are mentally
healthy people

because they see
things as possible.

- I'm not out to
prove he's there.

I know he is there and
that's good enough for me.

You're never gonna convince
everybody in the world

until there's one
laying there on a table

or, you know, one caught.

I'm definitely not
gonna be the one

to put one on a table

and I'm definitely
not gonna be the one

to try and catch one.

And to be honest,

even if I get a picture,

and I know there's
pictures out there

'cause I've seen 'em
of actual Bigfoot,

why share it?

'Cause somebody's gonna
say, oh it's fake.

It's makeup. It's
this, it's a mask.

Even if I had absolute
proof, 100% proof,

I don't think I'd share it.

- Bigfoot is a great example
of something, once again,

that people can't categorize.

So who are the people
out there saying

let's investigate this?

Let's take a closer
look at this.

Let's see if there's
some science behind it,

some explanation behind it.

If you're in the mainstream
in terms of science

or a professional, if you will,

you're taking a risk because
you're willing to say

I'm going to pursue this

and I'm not gonna really
pay attention to naysayers.

I'm not gonna be
put down by them.

And those people
are truly pioneers.

And that's been true
throughout history

whether it's religion, politics,

medicine, science,
whatever human endeavor,

people take risks and chances.

And one of the risks
and chances they take

is that people may
think they're foolish.

So people who are
willing to say,

yes, I'm going to get
ridiculed for this,

but I'm going for it anyway,

those are truly pioneers.

They're transformational
people who are willing to say,

let's take a shot at this.

Let's see what's out there.

And that's the kind of person
that we should celebrate.

- 10 years ago I was diagnosed
with melanoma cancer.

Me and God, we're good buddies

and I asked for help

and he sent me people

to tell me what to do.

And so I went to have a
melanoma cancer removed

off the top of my head

but they didn't get it all

and I was eventually
diagnosed with terminal cancer

and that was a death sentence.

Now, fast forward.

I'm going to St. Mary's, Alaska,

with my wife to see
my grandchildren

and my daughter,
Rachel, and son-in-law,

possibly for the last time,

The day that I saw the Bigfoot,

we get into the boat
and we're motoring

up the Andreafsky River,
which flows into the Yukon.

We fished all morning,
caught nothing.

So we found a sandbar
and unloaded the kids.

And then I said, "Let's
go after steelhead."

I had a steelhead
on earlier that day

and so my son-in-law
and I alone jumped in.

We went down river and
he pointed up the hill

and he says, "What is that?"

He whispered, "What is that?"

And I said, "That's a
big old brown bear."

"No, what is that?"

Then it stood up.

And when he stood up,

he took two great big steps
and squatted back down

and started eating.

In my mind as a nonbeliever,

I'm thinking, a
bear can't do that.

He finally passed
me the binoculars

and when I looked,

I saw fingers this long with
the thumb way back here.

And I thought, a bear?

That's a Bigfoot!

And I was just stunned.

And so I handed
him the binoculars

and then I hear this.

"Oh."

Now we're both believers.

And the big guy, that
big, beautiful creature,

stood up and turned

and looked straight at me.

I cannot tell you
what that did to me.

I saw gorilla
wrinkles right here.

I saw a nose twice
as wide as mine.

I saw a bare face,

a bald forehead with a raised
eyebrow ridge right here.

No eyebrows.

The hair started right
on kinda right up here

on the, towards
the top of his head

and went all the
way to his ankles.

The hair started,

I think, at his knuckles

and went all the way down.

I couldn't see hair
on the fingers.

His shoulders were
about this wide

and his body was,
oh, so muscular.

So incredible.

Not much of a neck.

We could see it from the front,

but from the side and the back,
you couldn't see it at all.

His head was about
twice as wide as mine.

The eyes were up a little higher

than normal human eyes

and they were either solid
black or solid black and brown.

I'm not sure which.

And he just looked at us.

You know, our eyes just locked.

And I just, my jaw hit
the bottom of the boat.

His stare was...

His stare, wow.

Well, after about 10 seconds,

he turned and knelt
and laid down,

and then we're trading the
binoculars back and forth

and I'm wanting to see him
again so bad my teeth hurt.

If you look out here in
the field, there's cows

and I was a cow milker
and I sang to the cows.

I taught my kids to
sing to the cows.

And so I started
singing to this Bigfoot.

Got through the verse once

and he didn't stand up

so I thought maybe
he can't hear me.

So I'm raising my voice slowly

as I go into the second verse.

And I finally got right to...

And he stood up! I was elated.

Eventually, after
about 10 minutes,

we watched him walk up
that tundra hillside.

Great big, giant steps.

He walked up that mountain
faster than I could run down.

It was my son-in-law
said, "Look at that!

No human can walk on
the tundra like that."

And he went over the hill

and the last thing
we saw was his,

the top of his head going down
the other side of the hill.

We finally turned around

and went back to the boat.

Most solemn
experience of my life,

going down that river.

Me and God were talking.

"Thank you, God.

I'm diagnosed to die,

thank you for letting me
see such an incredible thing

and to experience this

in the last time of my life."

- Of course, that was

10 years ago.

I am God's miracle.

- I have to come back
here to Vernal, Utah,

and so I knew that the only time

I would be able to talk
to anybody about a Bigfoot

was at the airport.

I walk in, there's about
30, 35 people there.

"I've seen a Bigfoot. Have
any of you?"

I wanted answers.

I wanted knowledge and
I got five stories.

I'm diagnosed to die. I
might as well let it go.

Tell people. It's true.

I became an interviewer

and I have hundreds
of Bigfoot stories,

500 or 600.

When he was walking away,

I called out to him,

"You are the most beautiful
creature in the world.

Please don't go."

He looked more human.

I was hoping he
could understand me

but he never turned to
look back, not once.

My purpose in sharing
this story with you

is to bless those who
have not been able

to share their story
and have been mocked

and ridiculed and belittled.