The El Duce Tapes (2017) - full transcript

[Cheering]

Alright, alright, alright,
shut up!

Shut up!

Shut your goddamn mouth,

and let me make
a piece of my mind.

Alright!

Everybody
that likes to rape women,

say, "Sieg Heil!"

[Crowd] Sieg Heil!

What are we doing?

We...



[♪ Music plays]

[♪ Music plays]

Yeah!

[Siren wails]

[Indistinct police radio]

[Man] What's up?

[Woman] Huh? I guess
we're going home.

I'm trying to bring peace
to this world.

I hope you guys are happy.

It's real stoked.

Peace! Love! Whatever...

- No it doesn't.
- It happens all the time.

It's good shit, man.

[Applause]



We are going to keep on

trying to strengthen
the American family

to make American families
a lot more like the Waltons

and a lot less
like the Simpsons.

[Cheering]

[♪ Distorted version of
"The Star Spangled Banner"]

If you believe in free speech,

people have the right
to burn a cross

people have a right
to burn the flag.

It's offending people, and it's
offending somebody's religion

or offending somebody's love of
country. What's the difference?

You offend people every day.
Should you go to jail?

[Screaming indistinct lyrics]

I wanna take the president,

chop off his head, and mail it
to them in a garbage bag.

[♪ Music plays]

♪ Hinkley had a vison

♪ Hinkley had a vision...

[♪ Indistinct lyrics]

[♪ Indistinct lyrics]

[Audience] Jerry! Jerry!

- Jerry! Jerry!
- [Jerry] Thank you very much!

[Announcer]
'And now, here he is,

'the conservative voice
of television,

'Wally George!'

[Overlapping dialogue]

Today we're gonna take a look
into the world of shock rock,

rock music that is violent,
scary, and even perverse.

We have one of the most
disgusting perverts

I've ever seen in my whole life
on the show here.

[Booing]

[Jerry] Here is El Duce.

[Applause]

[Booing]

[Wally George] Hold on!

Hey, hold it!

How do you describe
your music?

[El Duce] Well, it's rape rock.

- [Wally George] "Rape rock"!
- [Booing]

You know, I wanna be polite
to anyone who comes on our show,

but I gotta say, when I hear
that you promote rape,

that is not only
thoroughly disgusting,

but it can't possibly
be viewed as entertainment.

Well, it is to me.

[Man] Duce!

I have two sons,

a sixteen-year-old who's
sitting in the audience now,

an a ten-year-old,

and I try to teach my sons
how to be respectful,

and that sodomizing people...

Do you realize that
Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible

was destroyed by God
because that was wrong?

Do you realize that?

I like music,

but I do not like things that
promote violence against people.

Let me ask you something.
When were you raped?

I was raped in '70.

You look kind of familiar,
I have to say.

- No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
- [Audience groans]

Sorry.

[Jerry] That's just...
That's just plain disrespectful.

- I mean, that's not...
- He doesn't know any better.

That's not a point of view.

[Audience cheering]

Oh, Wally!

You shouldn't have the right
to be on any stage

or any radio station
in the United States of America.

[Jerry] And now,
here they are: Gwar.

- Uh, you like Gwar, huh?
- Yes.

Is it OK that some of the
message, let's say, is violent?

- Would that be OK?
- Yes.

That's OK?

[Cheering]

Well, um, obviously...

I think, yeah,
ours is simulated.

[Man] And theirs is real!

- One time...
- When he's on the sauce!

When he's on the sauce!

One time,
we had the misfortune

of taking El Duce...

Being on bus with him
is horrible.

...from New York City...

The whole band,
the whole band...

There's sixteen of us,
and all of them in our bus.

It was like...
no room at all to do anything.

We were taking him
from New York City to Richmond.

He had this punching balloon
like kids play with.

He kept whacking it.

First, he started
spitting on it,

like, licking
big loogies on it,

and then he'd go,
boogey-boogey-boogey...

so it splashed everywhere.

- Yeah.
- But then...

- But then...
- He peed on it.

And he was, like,
running around the bus,

going tk-uh-tk-uh-tk-uh...

into people's face
with this pee balloon.

He gets on stage,

pulls his pants down,

pulls his dick out, and starts
flopping it around and stuff,

and then some super sick
gross slut

runs out on stage
and starts sucking him off

in front of the whole audience.

- And...
- Gross!

Eurgh!

In front of the whole
fucking audience!

And the bouncers
didn't do a goddamn thing.

[Woman] OK, this is because..

He's one of the weirdest guys
I know, man.

I like him.

I like him, because
he's always nice to me.

He always is nice to me,

but I really...

You know, it does bother me
a little bit,

the way he treats women.

Very early on,

he started referring to the band
as "rape rock", which I...

If you asked me earlier,
was there anything,

any song or anything
that really, uh...

I thought was going
a little too far,

when he first came out
with that,

I thought that was going
a little too far.

Personally, I'm not in favor
of rape, you know,

I think it's hideous, and uh...

So, to that extent, I think
that's going a little too far,

but again,
that's his personal vision.

[Ryan] What kind of people
go to your gigs?

Uh, we get sort of a broad mix,
you know,

we get a lot of your kind
of nihilistic punkers

and some of your intellectuals.

[Ryan] What do you think
of your brother?

I think he's rocking.

Is he?

- He's a real man.
- Yeah.

El Duce, your brother,
is a real man?

- He's a real Aryan man.
- [El Duce] Yeah!

Yeah! Sieg Heil!

[Grunts]

♪ Your daughter is my victim

♪ Yeah-eee-ay!

[Ryan] So El Duce is, um...

Do El Duce's lyrics offend you?

No, not really.

The one song, "On The Rag",
kind of... [Laughs]

"When I'm On The Rag",
that bothers me.

But...

Do you think he is serious
about his lyrics,

or do you think he's kind of
just trying to have a laugh?

I think a little of both.

I don't know which more,
you know,

which one is more...

But...

Does he ever scare you?

No.

He's... you know,
he's pretty nice, you know...

for being a Mentor, you know.

Where do you think he gets
his ideas for lyrics?

Mm...

From um...

what he's seen other people
cringe about.

Like a few...

He loves to see people cringe.

[Broy] Even once or twice
I think they picketed,

feminist groups
have picketed the man.

[Chanting] Rape rock
is not a joke!

Rape rock is not a joke!

What do you think
of the demonstration

that's going on outside?

I think it's great.

[TV] 'Ted Weatherhead,
CBC News, Winnipeg.'

You know, a lot of girls
trip out about it, but...

you know, they shouldn't
take that all so seriously.

Do you think it's clever?

Yeah.

Yeah, the way they come up
with these ideas.

It's pretty perverted,
but, you know...

It's really funny
that they think of these things.

I figure, you know,
El Duce is his own man.

He's, uh...
In his own way he's a genius

and a great comedian
and a great musician.

So I don't want to attempt

to put his point of view
through my filter.

You know, I'm content
to play my part with the music

and whatever he comes up with
in terms of his lyrics, uh...

You know,
I'm a great El Duce fan,

just from being in the band,

it's great to watch him come up
with new lyrics and funny lines.

So I would consider myself

probably one of the greatest
connoisseurs of what he does,

and I'm able -
at least I think I am -

to recognize a good El Duce
performance from a bad one.

I think to a certain extent,
he's, like, a great artist

in that he doesn't really give
a damn what people think of him.

You know, if you look at a
Van Gogh or something like that,

these guys are so far out
in their own thing...

they're just doing
what they're doing,

they're on the auto pilot.

And I think he's on auto pilot.

He's not calculating anything
in minute details.

He's not saying, "I'm going
to sing this particular line

"cos I think this is going
to make the biggest impact."

I think he's going to do
what he...

what comes naturally.

It's a legitimate expression
of his own psyche.

Um...

That's kind of a tough one,

I guess maybe
"Free Fix For A Fuck"

is a big favorite of mine.

The lyrics that sort of

pictorialized
abuse to women and all that

doesn't bother you?

Well, I like the "Straight
Out Of Compton" NWA tape, too.

I heard that and I ran down
and bought it.

It's talking about stuff
that is in some people's heads.

He'll bring it out. Like...

If El and them...

If they were just running around
raping chicks

that didn't want to be raped
and doing all this shit,

if NWA was out gangbanging,

I wouldn't be into their music.

But they're musicians, they're
not into that stuff at all.

You know, they're just
talking about a reflection

of part of the human condition.

And El has just... He has
such a humorous twist to it,

nobody could take it
offensively.

[El Duce] Turn on the camera,
I'm ready to rock.

[Ryan chuckling]

You better have that camera
on there, Ryan.

Is that right?

[Indistinct]

[Man 1] Does this light work?

[Man 2] Yeah.

Peaceful rape.

What's peaceful rape?

That's when you knock
a broad out on...

[hiccups] Thorazine,

maybe some, um...

'ludes.

So you don't believe in, uh...

No, no, let me finish.

Then hypnotism.

Babe...

take your bra off.

Slut.

Peel your panties off.

[Snorts]

[Smacking]

Your clitoris here.

Lock them legs.

[Blows raspberry]

[Squelching, slurping]

Uh! Uh! Mm...

[Blows raspberry]

Ah! Swallow it.

It's as easy as that.

Heil Hitler.

Mm!

Mm, mm, mm, mm,
mm, mm, mm, mm... Mm!

Mm!

Mm!

Have you always drank
for relaxation?

I've been an alcoholic
all my life.

I stole my first beer
from my dad.

- El Duce likes to drink a lot.
- Yeah.

He says he has
an alcohol problem.

Yeah he's a full-on alcoholic.

El Duce when he's sober
is a really nice guy,

when he's drunk he's horrible.

That way I know
that only I can drink it.

Anybody who drinks it,
drinks my spit.

El Duce drinks a lot
when he's around you?

Yeah.

He probably drinks a lot
when he's not around you.

Yeah.

Is that a problem for you?

Sometimes when he's
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

[Laughs]

What do you think of El
as a human being?

Well, see, personally
I'm really fond of him, and...

I don't know,

part of it is because we worked
at the Ivar Theater together

for a long time,
We have memories...

you know, about all the shit
that went down there.

You also are
the Master of Ceremonies

at one of the grimiest places
I know of in Hollywood,

the Ivar Theater,
which features naked dancers.

[Belches]

You worked at the Ivar Theater?

Yeah.

Is that the best job
you ever had?

Yeah.

I worked there
for about eight years,

I got to run the spot light

and play the girls
cassette tapes

and play the porno movies
and announce the girls,

all up in the light booth.

Yeah, he was the light man
at the Ivar.

Yeah.

So, he brought Steve by?

No, actually he wanted me
to go dance, do a show

cos the chicks
he had doing his show...

were flaking out.

And I'd listened to his music,

I thought his music
was really good,

but that wasn't my scene,
I wasn't into going.

But my girlfriend Zylmar says,

"Yeah let's go, let's go."
So I said, "OK."

And then when I started meeting
these other guys, you know.

Yes.

Yes. I'm stripper
at the Ivar Theater,

and I'm damn proud of it, too!

Right on, Duce!

Hey, all you sluts out there,

are tired of hanging out

with a bunch of low-life
glam rock fags?

Why don't you go
for a real man,

a booze-guzzling,
porno-reading man?

Just enter the
Mentors Dream Date Contest,

and you can win a good date
with me, El Duce.

[Cackles]

Do what they're doing in these
dirty magazines with me, baby.

How long have you been
El Duce's girlfriend?

Um...

About six weeks.

So, how did you run into him?

The first time that I met him,

just hanging out in Hollywood,

just hanging out drinking,
trashing.

Do you remember
the first time you met him?

Yeah. Yeah, I remember.

Saw him on the street.

It was him
and a couple of his friends,

and I was the only girl there,

and they wanted to not hang out
in Hollywood drinking,

cos of the cops,

and they wanted to go
to this one place.

First I was up for it,

and then I started thinking,
"This is El Duce.

"There's three guys
and just one of me."

And I just kind of
blew them off.

I was like, "I forgot
I got something to do."

You know, I thought
something would happen.

What did you hear about him?

Oh, a lot of stories.

You know, El Duce stories,
his reputation.

- Like what?
- About... [Laughs]

About being a big pervert

and stuff he does to girls
and stuff.

You know,
cos this guy said,

"Oh, he'll piss all over you,
he'll rape you,"

this and that, you know,
and I was kind of scared of him.

Do a lot of girls come on
to El Duce at the concerts?

Enough do.

Yeah, I...

I think one is enough,
you know, too much.

Duce say anything to 'em?

Oh, yeah, he loves it.

Does he treat you nicely?

Yeah, he treats me pretty good.

How did you all get together
as Mentors?

Well, The Mentors
got together in Seattle,

and we've been
childhood friends.

I've known El Duce
since we were in 4th grade.

We went to the same
elementary school together,

and then I met Sickie
when we were in 7th grade.

We're all the same age.

1976.

Right when the Sex Pistols
came out.

- Before.
- Before?

First of all, I can't believe
that El Duce is only 32, though.

How old are you going to be
this birthday?

- Same age as Jesus Christ.
- As they were nailing him down.

Hey, if he could be nailed,
I'll be nailed.

If Jesus could take it,
I can take it.

When did you start
playing music?

When I was about
seven years old.

And then I got really
into the drums

and I'd listen to records

that my mom and dad
would play and stuff.

When my dad was drunk
and in a good mood,

trying to fuck my mom,

and they'd put on the Tijuana
Brass or whatever, you know,

and I'd listen to it
and I'd go like, "Wow man,

"I dig that drum sound."
You know.

[♪ Drums and brass playing]

He started drums very early.

I think he started drum lessons
in 3rd or 4th grade,

and he had so much native talent

that he established himself very
quickly in the drumming classes.

The best student, essentially.

And I think
when he was in 6th grade,

he joined this All City
Youth Orchestra, you know,

which was like
the crème de la crme

of all musicians in Seattle,
you know, the child musicians.

So he played big concerts
at the Symphony Hall

with this youth orchestra.

Then he was later in drum corps,

which is a marching
kind of drum corps thing.

He was always very good
at that.

He could read music very well

and knew his way around
the drums perfectly.

What really motivated me
was Jimmy Hendrix Experience.

I wanted to play drums
like Mitch Mitchell.

Then I got a hip to The Who

and I wanted to play
like Keith Moon.

And then I got into
jazz fusion music.

Then I wanted to play
like Billy Cobham.

And then as time marched by,

I just kind of combined
all those styles,

all into my own style.

He was into sort of funk and
jazz rock and stuff like that

which we were into, too,

like Mahavishnu Orchestra

and Chick Corea,
"Return to Forever",

and all that kind of
fusion jazz rock

that was going on at the time.

If you were into this kind of

advanced Jazz fusion
type of music

that not many people were
playing, kids your age anyway,

how did you end up in sort of
the punk rock and metal areas?

Well, I guess in a way it was
sort of a conscious sell-out.

We were so into
this fusion thing

and we tried to play fusion,

we worked up
a lot of these original songs

in the band before The Mentors,
the Eldon Hoke Band,

we played exclusively
instrumental fusion.

But there was just
nowhere to play it.

There was one club I remember

that they advertised that
they wanted that kind of stuff,

and we went in there
and tried to get a gig there.

They wouldn't let us play there.
It just was going nowhere,

so it was sort of
the kind of thing that we...

I guess you'd consider it
a conscious sell-out.

Well, see, no one really
understood our fusion music,

so I said, "We got to
entertain these clowns,

"so let's sing
some dirty lyrics.

"Throw them in there."

So we went from jazz fusion...

to perversion,

and then we just broke it down
into easy rock

that they could understand.

- Punk rock.
- Yeah, punk rock.

The Dean of Students
at Roosevelt High school.

I used to cause
a lot of vandalism,

cos I hated everybody.

I used to blow up toilets
with M-80s, and...

you know, write dirty drawings
all over the walls and shoplift.

I did everything, and set fires,
I did all kinds of shit.

Anything that raised hell,
I would do it.

You know,
I used to urinate in jars

and pour them on the radiators
in the morning

because it was freezing cold
in Seattle,

like it was 40 degrees outside,
you're freezing cold.

You come into the school,
you want to warm up,

and here is a radiator with
urine smell pouring off of it.

I used to shit in foil
and stack it in the freezer

and I'd take it to school,
let it thaw out,

and then I'd smear it
all over the door knobs

of all the classrooms,

and vomit.

I did all kinds of sick shit.

I could go on for hours telling
you all the sick shit I did.

But I was just the number one
nuisance to the school.

So finally I'm in this
language arts class,

and the teacher gets this call,

"Will you send El Duce down
to the Dean of Students?"

Oh, no!

Some dipshit finked me off.

So I go down there,

and sure enough these two idiots
that were working for me...

[Farts]

So I go in there,
acting all smooth and shit,

and I sit down,
the Dean of Students goes,

"Alright, El Duce...

"I have had reports that you are
the one behind everything.

"You're the mentor."

And I go, "What?"

He goes, "You're
the mentor behind it all."

I just drilled it in my head
and I go, "Mentor?

"What do you mean, mentor?"

And he goes, "Look it up
here in the dictionary."

And he throws the dictionary
and he goes, "See that?

"Read that to me."

And I go, "Mentor, the one
that everybody looks up to..."

"You are the one
who instructed all these guys

"to shit and piss and throw
garbage all over the school,

"because you are the mentor."

And he threw this big fit
about me being the mentor.

So I just said, "Fine,
that's the name of the band,

"it's got to be The Mentors."
[Laughs]

[Applause]

Rockin' and a rollin'
all the way

Do you guys fight a lot
in the band?

Um, me and Steve don't,

but Sickie throws in the wrench
every time he can.

Boy, maybe you should
write down some questions.

Me and Sickie
bicker probably the worst.

What do you bicker about?

Little petty ass things,

the more pettier,
the more we bicker.

Do you fight about the music?

No, we fight about
whose beer is whose.

- No, I said Miller's Special.
- You owe me five bucks.

How do I owe you five bucks?

Because I loaned you
the money to get it.

Wow, Miller's on sale.

Do you have a car?
Yeah, you came out in a car.

After the gig,

while Broy's waiting around
getting paid, we can trunk up,

so we just better get the six.

Miller in cans,
I hate that shit.

You owe me five bucks.

How do I owe you five?

Because I paid
for the fucking beer,

and you owe me two beers

and you wanted me
to loan you the money.

Broy owes you the money,
he couldn't pay you,

so I gave you five bucks
out of that.

Duh.

Just take five dollars' worth.

Yeah...

- I want my $5 back.
- That's the whole thing...

I loaned you five dollars
so he could get some beer.

- Right.
- Right, so you owe me 5 bucks.

No, you get your two beers.

No, you owe me five dollars.

I owe you five bucks
but if you want to get...

And two beers!

Five dollars and two beers.

It's not that hard
to figure it out.

We've got this one clown,
Ed Danky, in our band

that's sort of in the band
and sort of not in the band.

[Belches] I think Mr. Danky
has something to say.

We're over here,

and this is Sneaky Spermshooter
down here on the ground.

- Time to rock.
- It's time to rock?

We're ready to blow.

- Ready to blow?
- Yeah, heavy rock is coming up.

He doesn't believe
in the Four F club,

and, you know, it doesn't work.

How long have you known El Duce?

Oh, I've known the scum bag
about, oh, 10 grueling years.

In what capacity
have you worked with him?

I do a little background vocals
for them sometimes,

and I jam with the guys
all the time, and you know,

I guess I'm like the
Billy Preston of The Mentors.

I remember you at that bar
when you saw that.

I saw this,
and I went apeshit.

A lot of the songs
are sex oriented.

Were they back then?

Uh, yeah.

Yeah, we kind of hit upon that
as a gimmick.

See, El Duce was...

The one thing
he was known for

when we going
to junior high was,

he was known as the guy
who had all the pornography.

His dad was a porno collector,

and his dad tried to hide
this porno from El Duce.

He had this little work room

that was all locked up
in the basement,

but El Duce knew
how to pick the lock,

and he'd go down there while his
dad and mum were off at work,

and he'd have his buddies
come over

and he'd show them all the porn,

and he'd give
some of the magazines away.

So, El Duce
had a real reputation

as being sort of porn-meister.

And El Duce would do
this drum solo

with these dildos he bought,

these, you know, like,
about 14 inch dildos

he bought down
at the porno store,

and it was just a big gimmick
thing, you know, I guess.

I don't know
if we thought of it like that,

but that was basically
how it wound up.

[♪ Music playing]

♪ I got a donkey dick

♪ It will make you sick

♪ I got a donkey dick

♪ It's big and thick

Not all of our stuff
is pornographic.

I mean if you listen to it
carefully,

you know,
the total catalogue,

now I haven't tabulated it all,

but I'd say maybe 50% is not
wholly concerned with sex.

First thing we do
when we wake up in the morning

- is take a shower...
- [El Duce] No.

- ...and put on a fresh hood.
- Jack off!

This hood smells
like Sickie, though.

- I know.
- Disgusting.

That's what you get
for putting on his hood.

It's not a fresh hood.

[Ryan] Why the hoods?

[Broy] That was El Duce's idea.

He had this idea when we
put together The Mentors,

that they'd have
this very strong image.

[El Duce] I saw it
in the horror films

and I go, "That's what we'll do,
we'll all wear execution hoods."

You see,
I saw KISS do their thing.

I go, "We got to be
as outrageous as KISS."

El Duce told me that
he scheduled their first tour

by calling around people
and telling them

that he had the most incredible
KISS cover band that there was,

and then he took
just the KISS album,

like, he taped a compilation
of KISS records

and sent them as a demo tape
out to people,

and then, like... You know,
that was his press kit,

it was this demo tape that was
just KISS, and he's like,

"We're one of the most
incredible KISS simulation

"that has ever been,"

- and then they show up and...
- Play El Duce!

...and they're the fucking...
they're The Mentors.

[♪ Music playing]

[Ryan] How do you describe
Mentors music?

What is it to you?

Uh, male chauvinism rock.

♪ All women are insane

♪ Some were born with no brain

♪ Bitch and cuss on the rag

♪ They are one hell of a drag

♪ If everything
don't go their way

♪ They must fuck and suck me
for their pay

♪ Males are superior

♪ Females are inferior

Do you think Mentors music
is a joke?

No it's a form of life.

I just speak about what's
on my mind and what I believe.

So when did the ideology
emerge in him?

Uh, the whole...

become fully flowered you mean?

It was probably after
The Mentors had been together

for about two or three years,
when it really...

you know, became very monolithic
like that.

It was just
sort of a slow evolution.

- What about "Golden Showers"?
- Oh, yeah.

See, I caught this one girl
cheating on me.

She goes, "He was so cute,
can you blame me?"

and I go, "Yeah, I can."

"I'm going to have to give you
the treatment."

She goes, "Whatever you want,
I love you...

"Oh, I love you."

I said, "All right,
prove your love."

Now Mr. Chairman,
one point we've already made,

the material which has caused
the concern

is new and different.

It's not just a continuation

of controversies
of past generations.

To illustrate this point,

we would like to show
a slide presentation.

The purpose of this presentation
is to acquaint you

with the type of material
that is in question.

I will be covering the themes
of violence and sexuality.

Bear in mind that what you are
about to see and hear

is a small sample

of the abundant material
available today.

Ozzy Osborne, on his first
solo album shown here,

sings a song called
"Suicide Solution".

Ozzy insists
that he in no way

encourages suicidal behavior
in young people,

and yet he appears
in photographs such as these.

For those of you who can't make
that out because of the lights,

it's a picture of Ozzy with a
gun barrel stuck into his mouth.

My apologies.

How bad can it get?
The list is endless.

This album was released
just recently

by a band called The Mentors.

It was released on the label
Enigma Records,

which also launched
Motley Crue's career.

The album includes songs like

"Four F Club: Find Her, Feel
Her, Fuck Her And Forget Her",

"Free Fix For A Fuck",

"Clap Queen",
"My Erection is Over",

and the song "Golden Showers"
which says these words,

"Listen you little slut,
do as you're told,

"come with Daddy
for me to pour the gold.

"Golden showers, all through
my excrements you shall roam,

"bend up and smell
my anal vapor,

"your face is my toilet paper,

"on your face
I leave a shit tower,

"golden showers."

Mr. Chairman that concludes
my remarks, I thank you.

[Chairman] I'm sorry
your time has expired.

[Laughing]

Thanks to the PMRC,

we tripled our sales,

we're like a nothing band
for a while,

then the PMRC came up there
and bitched about us,

next thing you know
our records skyrocketed.

It's all just bullshit.

I mean, he's successful
because he gets a reaction.

It's like there's a need
for that in society,

otherwise it's just
boring and dull.

I mean, people...
you know, they get all upset

and they go to the Senate,

and they do all this protesting
and all that stuff

that just hypes his trip.

The records
start selling more,

and I mean,
mean they're doing the...

They're giving him
just what he wants.

And I got to give him
a lot of credit.

Man, he gets away with it.

He's exactly...
he's a total success in himself.

[Cheering, booing]

[Man] El Duce!

What kind of clubs were you
playing before the PMRC?

Holes in the wall, dives,

somebody's backyard,

but when the PMRC... [Laughs]

When they snapped into action,

man, we started playing
big halls, auditoriums.

♪ Bend up
and smell my anal vapor

♪ Your face is my toilet paper

♪ Golden shower...

[El Duce laughs]

[Ryan] What kind of bands
did you play with?

Well, we started off playing

with just everybody's local
brother's band, you know.

and then once the PMRC
kicked into action,

we started playing
with big groups,

like Metal Church, Montrose,
Ronnie Montrose, Plasmatics.

Probably the biggest bands
we played with is, like, Fear

and Killing Joke, Black Flag.

What's the best road experience
you ever had with The Mentors?

Probably with Saint Vitus.

I got laid about seven times
on that tour.

If you just look at LA,
you know, the past few years,

there's a huge explosion
of metal bands

that are coming out
and being very popular,

Poison and you know,
whomever else, Warrant.

But I think these guys
are extremely calculated.

First of all, they're part of
a very big money making machine.

Any time you're in that...
your league,

you're talking
to a big conglomerate

putting a lot of money
into you,

expecting you to behave
professionally

as far as not blowing shows,

you know, showing up on time,

producing a record on time,
things of that nature.

This band, you know, Mentors
is not set up for that at all.

I'm not sure if people will
listen to us in 100 years.

I think they might...

as opposed to a band
that's somewhat disposable,

enjoyable music,
quality music,

but yet easily replaced.

So you see Mentor's music
as what?

As art,
I would consider it art

to the extent where
most music that's sold

is less art,

and more of it just product,
it's a commercial product.

What constitutes art to you?

I think art has got...

True art is something
that is independent of time.

Uh...

I would say it deals
with lasting human themes

that are, again,
time-independent to an extent.

They sign a lot
of these glam rock bands,

tens of thousands of these bands

and all look the same,
all sound the same,

you can't tell one band
from the other.

but you could always tell
The Mentors,

cos we stand out.

We're tired of sissy groups
like Motley Crue

and all this sissy stuff.

We want rape rock.

Sneaky, what do you think
of the Beatles?

- Who?
- The Beatles.

They don't rock.

♪ You

♪ Are

♪ My

♪ Sex slave

They could say, "Bon Jovi
is really on an up move,"

you know whatever,

I don't care
if he goes up or down.

I've got my lyrics,
and if they don't like it,

they can eat shit out of my ass.

I want to ask you something.

What does your mother
think about you? Huh?

Was El Duce...

Early on was he a sort of
a teddy bear of a guy

or was he mean,
was he good? Was he...

I mean,
he was obviously your friend.

Yeah.

Um...

I wouldn't call him
Mr. Nice guy.

He had a lot of weird aspects
to his personality.

He was...

See, he was from
a family of four, OK?

As far as other kids.

He had two sisters
and one brother.

Now, one brother and one sister
were older than he was,

and they were
very good students,

and his father is... or was

a highly paid, high-up in the
bureaucracy, engineer at Boeing.

He was an aeronautical engineer.

And so there was a certain
amount of expectation

put on El Duce

to follow in the good
student footsteps

of these two elder siblings.

But he just wasn't cut out
for that kind of thing and he...

You know,
I think a couple of times

he almost got put back a grade,

and that kind of scarred his
personality to a certain extent.

[Ryan] Was, um...

As a kid or a teenager
was El Duce lazy?

Extremely.

Extremely lazy.

Did he... Was he...

Always since birth.

- Dramatically different than...
- Since birth he was...

And he's one of those people
that work harder at not working.

Like if he would...
You know what I'm saying?

All these lengths to avoid
doing the simple task,

if he would have done
the simple task,

he wouldn't have to go
to all this other bullshit,

you know what I mean?

Does that make sense?

Now, I don't give a damn
about books...

because I don't care what year
George Washington flipped a coin

across the Delaware River
or whatever,

I'll find that out later,
when I'm damn well ready.

So how did he become
such a good drummer?

It was the one thing that he
clung on too that he couldn't...

I think also he could take out
a lot of anger on those drums.

A lot of anger
towards my father.

You know what?

That's me as little bastard
right there.

I'm going like,
"Who's going to fuck up my life,

"then make me the weirdo
that I is right now?"

Right? Tells myself,

"I ain't fucked up,
I ain't weird, I ain't nothing."

What's your family like?

Square.

My dad designed bombs.

He designed
part of the Apollo 11...

that landed on the moon.

What about your mother?

She was a secretary.

What was your childhood like,
growing up?

Oh, my dad
beat me all the time.

He got a thrill out of it, boy.

His eyes would light up
when he cracked that whip.

Bam! [Screams]

And I'd go like, "Yow!"

The more I yelled,
the more he got a turn-on.

And your mother?

Well, she just closed her ears
and closed her eyes and said,

"It's not real, it's not real."

I said, "It is real."

And I started the ball rolling
with my dad,

because of my grade card.

I got nothing but flunks
and bad grades when I was a kid.

He goes,

"Why aren't you as smart
as your brother and sister?"

And I said,
"Well, because I'm smarter.

"I do not submit."

I mean, that's what
I was thinking on my head.

I didn't tell my dad that,
but that's what I was thinking.

I do not submit to people
that order me around.

He says his dad...

he says your dad beat him
when he was a kid.

Were you aware of that?

He spanked him really hard
with a paddle, yeah.

He did that to me, too.

We feared our father
like Hitler.

We did not...
we didn't respect him.

It wasn't healthy respect,
it was downright fear.

I mean, this is what my dad
used to do there.

He drilled holes like that big
around in his paddle...

to get a good swing on it.

Bam! And crack my ass.

He'd beat me an average
of about twice a week

for not doing this,
not mowing the lawn right,

this or that,
I'm a retarded person, you know,

any excuse he could find
to beat me, he would beat me.

Do you think your dad
feels responsible in some way?

No.

I think he absolved himself
of all of it.

Because, you know,
my dad's a sicko.

He designed bombs
for the Vietnam War

that tortured and killed people.

He helped design, what they
called a Bouncing Napalm Bomb,

which is a spinning bomb.

They shoot it out of B52,

and it goes down
right through the tree line,

and it spins and drops off
canisters of napalm.

So for a five mile stretch,

it blows like in
"Apocalypse Now".

My dad designed
that motherfucker.

El's just like, you know...

He's everything that is
my dad's worst nightmare,

and that's kind of great, too.

My dad needs that karma.

He does.

My dad is demented,
sick, warped and retarded.

I'm normal.

So, you do love your family?

Yeah, I love my family.

Who doesn't?

Do you go home at Christmas?

Nope, not this year,

because my dad told me to
get lost and never come back,

and I said,
"You got your wish.

"I'm going to dance on your
grave when you get cancer!"

Bleurgh!

Alright, come on.
since you're helping me move it.

Yeah, one more thing
to get up.

Wait till you see
my drum set!

[Conversation continues
indistinctly]

Hey, I didn't see you on...

I missed you
on "General High School".

Oh, I'm going to be on
on August 7th.

- August 7th.
- Yeah, one more show.

What are you bringing
to set the pace?

A Walkman
with about 200 cassettes

and an amplifier

and a couple of pairs of socks
and underwear, and that's it.

Hey, look at that, there's
plenty of room in here.

You can fit how many people
in here with the equipment?

We're going to take six people,
and the amps back there,

and the drums
on top of the amps,

so it looks like
pretty good shape.

I think we've got enough room
for everybody.

What's the farthest East
you go?

New York City.

Where are you going to play
in New York?

- The Ritz.
- Really?

Yeah.

No.

No, I think this one's
under control.

Are those tools?

I got a phone number
for tools.

- Here's your hood, Sneaky.
- Yeesh!

[El Duce] I got a phone number
for a guy that's really good.

Don't leave home without it.

So everything else you have

you're just going to leave here
when you leave the road huh?

Yeah, more or less.

- Can we get... You think...
- [El Duce mumbling]

you think Sneaky Spermshooter
will throw it all away

when he realizes
you left without him?

Oh, yeah, he's going
to be damn pissed.

So you just sneak in

and tell him you are just
taking the stuff for a minute,

- and you see him tomorrow, huh?
- Yeah. [Laughs]

But you guys are gonna be
in St. Louis

- and he's gonna be here, huh?
- Right.

[Laughing]

I'm sitting there
looking at him,

sitting out in the electric car
waiting on...

So, uh...

we were going to kick him
out of the band anyway

right before the tour,

this last tour we did
with the Revolting Cocks,

but we didn't know
how we were going to tell him.

and then, uh...

luckily he was so gone
towards the end,

that he just up and died,
killed himself,

shooting up dope,
speedballs, and...

so that was a big load
off our shoulders.

I liked that guy, Ed.

Well, I didn't really like Ed.
He was kind of a...

Sneaky Spermshooter,
you know?

- Yeah, he's dead.
- He's not dead, is he?

- Swear to God, he's dead.
- No way.

He's dead.

- You swear?
- I swear to God.

- Who told you that, Ed?
- I know he's dead.

How do you know he's dead?

Ed didn't tell me
he's dead, no.

Did you feel, I know you kind
of skirted around, so...

Well, see, I was bummed out
because I lost my pad.

And I lost a lot of clothes,
my color TV,

my espresso coffee maker,

my popcorn,
hot air popcorn popper.

I don't wish that on anybody,

but, you know,
he was a little bit of a...

I mean if he's dead,
he was an alright guy.

[♪ Music playing]

[♪ Music stops]

[Crowd cheers]

[Indistinct announcement]

[♪ Music resumes]

[♪ Music plays]

[♪ Music stops]

The way the band's set up,

there's so much infighting
going on,

so much personal stuff,

that I don't think
the band has got what it takes

to totally go to the top.

I just don't see that happening.

And so what drives you then

is just your enjoyment
of playing music,

you know, just doing it,

and you have to enjoy doing it
just for the sake of doing it.

♪ Heterosexuals
have the right to rock

♪ Heterosexuals
have the right to rock... ♪

He comes down pretty hard
and is pretty anti-homosexual

and such very terrible things.

Well, you got to understand,

the appeal of The Mentors in
a lot of ways is very juvenile,

and it's sort of
a male bonding thing,

a thing that 16-year-olds
can get together and listen to

and set themselves apart
from all their friends

by being into this band,
The Mentors, and...

As you know 16-year-old males
in general are very homophobic,

and I think that's
where it comes from, you know.

He's not the kind of guy

to go out and "fag bash"
or anything like that,

it's just part and parcel
of the whole Mentors package

that these things
come into the music.

Yeah.

- Do you like that guitar sound?
- Yeah.

AJ.

Go get fucked up!

AJ.

I like the devil hearts.

Thanks, man.

What's up, man?

Alright, kid?

Get that hood on right.

[Woman] It's not...

You're nobody to look up to.

I'll tell you right now
where you're going.

Your next gig
was going to be where?

This White Power movement thing.

See, there's a lot
of these fanatics

down at Huntington Beach
that want to...

They want The Mentors
to play there.

But I don't know, I got a lot
of black friends, too, you know.

I... I got...

Living in LA, you got
all kinds of friends, you know.

I got Chinese friends
and Mexican friends...

You know, it wouldn't look right
for me to go down there

and play for a bunch of...
a limited amount of people

that don't think too deeply.

Why do you, uh...

I mean I believe that whites
have rights, you know,

and if there's a black movement,

there should be
a white movement.

I'm proud of being a white.

When I become sheriff
of this county,

I'll be like Buford Pusser.

I'm going to be the strongest.

I'm a Klansman,
I'm a redneck, hallelujah!

And I'm going to get them,

and you know what?

When I become sheriff
of this county...

I'm going to carry a bat so big

it's going to have spikes
sticking of the sides.

and then when they see me coming
with my Nazi German helmet,

the crack dealers are going
to spread like ants.

But to tell you the truth...

I'm American all the way.

All liberals must die.

Why?

They stand up for gangs
and wars and literacy and...

How the hell
do they expect to...

That calls for a drink.

I like him
because he's a Nazi.

So you agree
with both the liberals

and the conservatives?

What do you think of that?

I think it's a pile of crap,
we're already overpopulated.

What are they going
to feed them?

Alfalfa leaves
and welfare stamps?

What's that?

They don't want to pay us,

but if they want us that bad,

they'll have to pay us 150 bucks
and a keg of beer.

As far as El Duce's
sort of philosophy

on Nazism and homosexuals...

Oh, he picked that up
from a friend.

I think he picked that up from
a friend of his a while back.

That's just something
he's latched on to

just to be offensive.

It's not to be taken seriously?

No, one of his best friends
is as black as your pants.

Are you racist at all?

No.

I got a lot of black friends.

Do you think
he really idolizes Hitler?

Not in a serious sense,
I don't think so.

Just in terms
of the entertainment of it?

Yeah, I think he...

In terms of
the entertainment, yes.

But no, he doesn't
idolize Hitler,

certainly, you know,
doesn't read books about Hitler,

nor have pictures of Hitler
up on his wall or anything.

Your dad beat you,

and you resented that
and you hated that,

and yet people
like Hitler and Idi Amin,

brutalize and torture people,
and you like that.

- Yeah, I do.
- How do you justify that?

Because it's entertainment,

and I've finally grown up to
realize what a fun party he is.

Did you think
it was entertainment

when your dad was beating you?

Oh, yeah,
he got a kick out of it.

You didn't, though?

Hell no, I was a victim of it.

You know what it's like
to be the victim,

how come you like
the idea of it?

Because you grow up,

and now I'm going to do it
to somebody else,

cos my dad did it to me.

Is that fair to the person
you do it to, though?

Hell no, he's going to learn
how to do it to the next victim.

[Laughs]

It's a chain reaction, brother.

[Laughs]

[Blows raspberry]

Mom, if it were only you and
El Duce in the room together,

what do you want
to just say to him?

You know what you're doing
to kids?

Do you realize
that you're making boys think

that they can go out
and do this to girls,

and take their innocence away

when they don't want it
taken away?

Well, girls shouldn't go
out there advertising for it.

No, I'm sorry,
I wasn't advertising for it,

I was only 12 years old.

This dive is where
The Mentors started from.

They threw me out of here

because Stoney T said
I set fire to the dumpster.

Let me tell you I'm going to buy
this club and fire everybody.

But these guys are my friends.

That's right, brother.

- Eldon!
- Yeah, what's up there, buddy?

How are you doin'?

This is El Duce.
I named my dog after him.

"I named my dog after him!"

- What?
- I named my dog after him.

I'm your fucking wife, asshole.

[Indistinct chattering]

Good to see you.

OK.

Big stash.

There you go.

Thanks for welfare.

And then, see,
he works part-time for me now,

so he'll help me in my business.

So we got this mutual thing
going there.

What do you do?

I do private parties.

I'm an entertainer, too,
and he's...

He comes a lot,
he carries my shit in and out,

cos I go do private parties
in people's houses,

he carries the shit
in and out for me.

What kind of work do you do?

I paint apartments,
do some plumbing.

[Belches]

Movie extra work.

well, that sounds pretty bad.

Well, it's not good news.

But it's better
than the gas chamber.

How many 40 ounces
do you drink a day?

I don't know, about
two or three, sometimes four,

sometimes six, sometimes eight.

How many before you pass out?

Probably around six.

Do you pretty much
pass out every night?

No, I'm...

Some nights I don't even sleep.

How is, uh...

Has El Duce's alcoholism
ever affected shows?

I mean, I love being
in the band and everything,

but it's affected
the band to such a degree

that probably only 50%
of the shows we're gonna do

are gonna be any good,

just due to the fact
of the alcohol problem.

I mean there's been more shows
than I could count

where he's been so out of it

that he literally
could not even play,

barely even talk.

He's even gotten sloppy
on his drums,

I mean there's
another side of...

he just cruises.

This lyric shit is the same
variations of the same crap.

He's lazy about that,

he can't even
write lyrics anymore,

he just goes and improvises
recordings and everything.

[♪ Music playing]

[Smacking]

[Blows raspberry]

[Blows raspberry]

[Smacking]

So that has been
extremely detrimental,

now of course
there has been lot of times

when it's been humorous...

[Laughs] El Duce
might get mad about this one,

but this one place in Florida
where he was frying...

I'm going to fucking get
in the ring, and I'm gonna...

Ooh!

Yeah. Maybe
I'm gonna be a wrestler.

The Billygoat!

Everybody thought he was
talking to somebody, like,

"Who is he talking to?"

This was, like,
four hours' talking,

you know, all this shit,
like the wrestling guys in WWE?

Doing all that shit
for four hours,

and finally I got up to see
who he was talking to,

and he's talking in the mirror.

He'd say stuff about,

"Yeah, I'm gonna
kick this guy's ass."

You know, he's doing all...
[Laughs]

That was really funny.

[Roars]

I'm going to take on anyone,

I'll lose the match,
who cares?

I'll get the chicks
and the money afterwards.

Do you feel that the band kind
of keeps him from getting clean?

Uh...

Well no, no, I don't think so,
I don't think so.

I mean, to a certain extent
his persona of El Duce

is being, you know,
this rock and roll party animal.

Sure, that reinforces that
behavior to a certain extent.

But to point
to any one thing and say,

"That's why he's the way he is,"

or "If he wasn't doing that,
he wouldn't be drinking,"

I don't think one can make
those statements or assumptions.

I think alcoholism
is a very tricky thing

and certainly there's millions
of alcoholics in the world

who aren't in rock bands,

you know, your doctors,
lawyers, truck drivers...

Drug abuse and alcoholism,

they're chronic endemic problems
with people,

and it's not necessarily
attributed to any one thing

or any two or three things.

I started messing around
with Vodka 100 Proof Smirnoff,

the blue bottles,

and I was drinking that shit,
a fifth a day,

and that just tears
your shit right up.

Your shit is gone
within a month.

You know,
drinking that stiff.

Cos I thought I was Superman,
I could do anything, you know.

And then I woke up
in the hospital,

tubes stuck in my arms
and stuff,

and I was like,
"I got to do something."

They gave me all these
knock-out pills and shit,

so that I could kick the booze.

And then I drifted
back into drinking,

but now all I drink is...

Cos I can kind of control it.

You know, having grown up
with the guy,

being a close friend
and everything,

nobody wants to see
somebody they know

destroy themselves in that way,
but you know...

You now, I kind of, to a certain
extent, wash my hands of it.

I sort of made my attempt
to get him clean,

it didn't really work,
and, uh...

I just let him
live his own life now.

Whatever he's going to do,
he's going to do.

I can't assume
any responsibility for him

in terms of his own
personal wellbeing.

When do you feel bad for him?

When I see him,

like, with a bottle, half of
a bottle of vodka in his hand.

And he just wants to be duced,

cos I know that thought,
I have been there, too.

And it's just...

I don't want to go
back there anymore.

And he's...

It took such incredible will
for me to get out of that,

and I don't think...

I mean, I know Eldon
doesn't have that will.

He doesn't even have
the will to, you know,

get a regular place to stay,

and clothes and shower,

and that's too much
responsibility.

You have to be so determined
in mind, and he just isn't.

So, where do you live?

Well, it depends on my attitude.

Either jail,
cardboard condominium,

Sickie Wifebeater's,
Dr. Heathen Scum's.

I do the couch tour.

Um...

It's like being on the road.

But I'm on the road
in one little area.

It makes me a nervous wreck.

Makes me want to drink more.

I'm going to show you
how real kings live.

Who needs a job?
You do.

Who needs the booze?
I do.

Who's an asshole?
You are.

Who's a creep?
I am.

Let's get out a dictionary
and write down the words.

It's funny how you find
your real friends.

Last I saw him,
he was living in a box.

Oh, yeah!

He was living in a box on
the side of the highway in LA.

We got to Hollywood,
and we pulled over,

I mean we're, like, sitting
in this parking lot in our bus,

and all of a sudden
we hear this...

There's this empty, deserted,
like, broken-down cube truck,

and we hear this... [Growling]

And then we look over there,

and this whole refrigerator box
falls out of the back,

and El Duce
comes crawling out of it.

And he looks up and he goes,

"Gwar?"

See you, brother.

You wouldn't be able
to spare a nickel?

Spare what?

You wouldn't be able
to spare a nickel, could you?

Nickel, what is that?

A quarter.

Oh, you mean money?

What are you going to do
with that nickel, man?

You are going to do what?

Buy booze.

- Booze?
- Yeah.

Hey, Thirty...

How do we make money?

I bum.

Yeah, but how to be
a perfect bum?

[Man] Eldon Hoke.
That man's, like, true terror,

left and right.

That guy used to work
at the Ivar Theatre.

Get over here.

What?

Tell them
what I'd do at the Ivar.

Tell them what I'd do
at the Ivar.

In 1984, he used to work as an
announcer at the Ivar Theatre,

which was a totally nude
burlesque theater.

That's where I became
an announcer also.

Tell them what we did
in the light booth.

I am not even going to speak
such things on camera. Sorry.

[Annetta] I mean,
I grew up with him,

I watched him become El Duce,
you know, slowly.

I mean, from drawing
little chopped off arms and axes

and torture scenes
in the fourth grade...

instead of
Bambi pictures and shit.

I mean, he's always been
real different.

Do you get along with her the
best of anyone in your family?

Yep.

I love my sister.

She's the only family
I got, really.

Everyone else is gonna die
a gruesome death for their evil.

How would you like to die?

Uh, maybe a lethal injection

or have me a...

hmm...

parachute without a parachute
that doesn't work.

Yeah.

The expression on their face
when they go.

Because they think they had
everything going together,

and then when it's time
for them to die,

get a good look at them! Argh!

He talks a lot
about death and dying.

How seriously do you take that?

Well, you know, he first
started coming up with that

about ten years ago.
He'd start saying stuff like,

"I have seen death
and I want to die."

When he gets really drunk,

he'll go off
onto this death trip he's got.

I guess when he first
started coming up with it,

I got pretty
concerned about it.

I thought it was
maybe indicative

of what was soon to follow.

And I'm certainly still worried
about him expiring early.

I mean, the guy's been a serious
alcoholic for 10 or 15 years.

Certainly, you know,

I don't know how much time
he has got left,

but, again, I just sort of
close my mind to it.

I figure my only alternative
is to not associate with him.

I don't want to do that,
I mean...

I enjoy being around the guy
when he is more or less sober.

I like working with him,
playing with him.

He is a friend of mine,

and I think I just have
to accept him for what he is,

and if part of what he is,
is to die early, then so be it,

although I don't think anybody
wants to see that.

Mm... yeah.

He is fascinated
with people dying

and killing and getting hurt
and all that,

but he seems to be
a peaceful guy.

Yeah, he's harmless.

That's the ironic thing
about it,

he's totally harmless.

Didn't seem like
he'd hurt anybody.

He wouldn't.
He is absolutely nonviolent.

Do you mind
taking your mask off?

[Applause]

[Booing]

OK, put it back on.

I am an ugly motherfucker.

I admit it.

I don't care anymore.

Do you find his problem
with alcohol to be inhibiting?

No, see that's his own thing.

He's always talking
about dying early and stuff,

and that freaks some people out,

but I figure we all got to go
at our own pace,

and maybe the alcohol
is preserving him.

[Laughs]

- What, uh...
- It doesn't bother me.

I don't give a fuck
what he does.

[TV ad]
'...the value of your home.

'It's even tax-deductible,
so consult your CPA.

'That's 1-800-227-2888.

'Preferred financial funding.'

Just because El Duce
is bald and ugly...

[Belches]

...uses cheap cardboard drums,

doesn't mean you have the right

to sneak in there

and stick your little
peekaboo camera up there.

[Babbles]

I like to have people
afraid of me.

- Uh, El...
- Don't do that.

[Blows raspberry]

No.

El!

Oh, God.

[Indistinct]

Whatever it takes
for entertainment.

[♪ FLEETWOOD MAC:
"Don't Stop"]

♪ Don't stop

♪ Thinking about tomorrow

♪ Don't stop

♪ It'll soon be here

♪ It'll be here

♪ Better than before

♪ Yesterday's gone

♪ Yesterday's gone

♪ Don't stop

♪ Thinking about tomorrow

♪ Don't stop

♪ It'll soon be here

Yes! Huh-huh!

Uh-huh! Huh!

This kicks butt!

Huh-huh! Huh-huh!

Nirvana is cool.

- Huh-huh! Huh-huh!
- Yeah! Huh-huh...

See, I went through all
of our videos over here.

Check it out.

I have been archiving videos

since I bought a video camera
last year,

and I got
all the good shit in here

that's going to kick ass
royally on this garbage.

So sit back and enjoy
the El Duce,

the man, the myth, the video...

and make sure you show it
to all your friends.

[♪ Distorted guitar]

No, No, don't do...
El, El, El...

Don't do this right out
in the open like that.

Look at the queer-looking dudes
that call themselves rock.

I say fucking Poison,
suck some cock.

Let me bless my beer.

This is how you drink your beer
when you're a real man.

The beer gods.

I am the king that knows
how to drink beer, watch me.

[Cheering]

[Laughing,
indistinct chattering]

Let's do it, dude!

OK, how about some Duce
nude in the jacuzzi?

Yeah!

Get out of here.

Come on, let's go.
Come on.

[Overlapping conversations
continue]

[Laughing]

There is no doubt,
Courtney knowing him well,

would know, hey, if I wanted to
hire somebody to kill somebody,

El Duce would be the man.

He would love to do it
like that.

Is that... looks like him
right there actually.

That is... That's the one.

There he is, El Duce.

There he is right there.
So, he's, uh...

- Hey, I got some...
- [Dog barking]

You did some deal
with Courtney, right?

Yeah.

She offered me 50 grand
to whack Kurt Cobain.

But did she tell you how she
wanted you to kill Kurt Cobain?

Yeah, she said
blow his fucking head off.

I got the shot gun.

- But she didn't say anything...
- Make it look like a suicide.

Well, yeah, but if he blew out
his brains like you said...

[Phone rings]

'Hello, you've reached
The Mentors hotline.

'If you are calling regarding
the rumors about El Duce,

'we're sorry to report
that they are indeed true.

'El Duce is deceased,

'and he was hit by a train
two Saturday nights ago.

'Thank you very much
for your condolences.

'They're are greatly
appreciated.'

[Beep]

You know how they found El Duce?

- Dead?
- Found him dead with no head.

Found him on train tracks

with his head on one side
and his body on the other.

The passing
of an American genius.

El Duce had to leave,

he had to catch a train
with his face.

[Laughs]

Having maybe reached

the apex of commercial viability
with The Mentors,

why not now just play
a type of music

that you have always
wanted to play?

Well, I think we do,
we do play what we want to play.

Right now,
it's what we want to play.

You don't feel the need
to go off and, uh...

I mean, El Duce
doesn't feel the need

to find his fusion roots again?

- Uh, no.
- I'm just getting back to...

Yeah, I know what you're saying.

I know exactly
what you're saying.

When we started out,
it was contrived

to the extent
I've already described.

But that... we're way
past that point now.

It's no longer
a contrived thing,

it's a real legitimate
artistic thing that we do,

and there's very little pretense
behind it of that nature.

So I think we are doing
what we want to do.

I mean, I guess...

I think El would've
wound up the same way

whether or not he was ever
in The Mentors.

And so I guess
I'm glad that, um...

he was in The Mentors

so he will be remembered
for something.

El Duce, this is for you.

I hope you roll
in your fucking grave.

[♪ Music plays]

[Indistinct lyrics]

"Bend up
and smell my anal vapor.

"Your face is my toilet paper.

"On your face
I leave a shit tower.

"Golden showers.

- "Golden showers."
- [Gavel banging]

I'm sorry,
your time has expired.

Duce!

when you took a mic stand
and you shoved it in your ass,

and you hit me with it,

I felt like I graduated
from high school.

- Well, congratulations.
- Thanks.

This kind of thing might have
a big enough of an impact.

It said what it needed to say
in such a concise

yet humorous and pungent fashion

that I could see it
making a lasting impact.

♪ I know you want it,
you're a good girl ♪

[Straining]

♪ Vaginoplasty

♪ I keep it nasty

You've spoken out against
all these... people.

Like, you say
you don't hire gay people.

No, no, no.

They're not as bad as women,
but no, I don't hire gays.

- But you know that's not...
- No, they're really...

- But you know that's just...
- Just kidding.

You're easy.

What if you control
the entire world?

Somebody who could rise
to political power,

through nothing more
than pushing people's buttons

and getting them all riled up.

There is a bunch
of famous musicians

who were trying
to close down Gitmo,

and they are enraged,

thinking that perhaps
their music was being used

as torture against
these inmates.

How do you feel about that?

Well, I mean, rock'n'roll has
been an instrument of torture

for as long as I can remember.

♪ It should be legal
to rape men

♪ I'd never be alone again

♪ I'd even let them fuck me raw

♪ Why is it against the law?

And there are like one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven Fs

in front of the 4th of July.

What does that signify
if anything?

♪ Find her, feel her

♪ Fuck her, forget her

Last night,

the number one trending topic
on Twitter was Obama Farewell.

And the second trending topic,
no kidding,

was "Golden Showers".

I think he's very proud of
what he has done with his life.

I think he's very cognizant
of the fact

that he is creating art,

and does consider himself
an artist.

I mean, he shocked
and grossed people out,

that's what he wanted to do.

And he was the best at it,
but it killed him inside.

I mean who wants to go around

being the biggest, fattest,
grossest, most disgusting thing?

Yep.

It's art.

[Blows raspberry]
See you in hell!

No, better yet,
I'm in heaven. Beugh!

Fooled ya!

[Laughing]