Out of State (2017) - full transcript

OUT OF STATE is the story of outcasts, of native Hawaiian prisoners shipped 3,000 miles across the ocean to a for-profit prison in the desert of Arizona. In this unlikely setting, these men discover their fierce indigenous dances, inspiring two students to fight to turn their lives around upon release.

- Native Hawaiian inmates
are taken from their homes

and sent thousands of miles
away to Arizona.

They cope with imprisonment
by discovering their roots.

- I never knew
one ounce of Hawaiian

before I even came to jail.

- The more I understood
our culture,

the more I understood
myself.

- First and foremost,
I am Hawaiian.

- Haa is the Hawaiian
bombastic dance.

- Ciara Lacy brings you
this story

of cultural rehabilitation



where these men find
a sense of self

and transition from prison
back into society.

- I didn't know who I was.

I wanted to know:
Where did I come from?

- Out of State.

Now only on Independent Lens.

[dramatic music]



[surf crashing]

- Nothing like the beach, man.

It's a release for me.

My mom used to tell the story

of how we went camping
one time,

and I think I was like maybe



five or six or something,
and...

she woke up in the middle
of the night,

and I was gone.

I was in the water.

And she was
screaming her head off,

"What you doing in the water?"

And I kept telling her,

"The water was calling me,
Ma."

[laughs]

[surf crashing]

They call it, um...

kapu kai

when you dive into the water

and you cleanse yourself

and you heal.

You forgive yourself for
a lot of stuff that you did.

Yeah.

And I think I had to go

to the ends of the earth
so to speak

and hit bottom

to really find out who I was.

[soothing music]



[traffic whooshing]

[indistinct speech over PA]

- What unit are you in?

[indistinct chatter]

Are you Native American?

- Oh, is that what this is?

- This is--
No, this is Hawaiian.

Native Hawaiian goes here.

Native American here.

[indistinct chatter]

They're in alphabetical order.

Practice--
You gotta practice your ABCs.

In alphabetical order,
in the unit by your name.

- You interested or no?

[inmates chattering
indistinctly]

- I didn't know who I was.

I wanted to know,

"Where did I come from?"

[conch shell blowing]

"Who am I inside?"

[conch shell blows]

You need to know your culture
to know who you really are.

- [chanting in Hawaiian]

[all chanting in Hawaiian]

[conch shells blowing]

[men shout]

[indistinct chatter,
conch shells fade]

[conch shell blowing]

- I never knew
one ounce of Hawaiian

before I even came jail.

I learned everything in jail.

- Come on.
Shoulder to shoulder.

Come on.
Now one in front of the other.

Go.
Come on.

Circle up, circle up.

[indistinct chatter]

[metallic clicking]

Hey!
[indistinct speech]

- [indistinct speech]

[indistinct radio chatter]

Report to center now, please.

[door buzzing distantly]

Not much of a view,

but we can see the road.

- And I get this one.

Kinda like this one.

It shows all the Hawaiian
journey back home.

The Hokulea voyage.

You know what I mean--
the Hawaiian people,

they were a beautiful people,
man.

And they still are.

We just struggling right now,

and we need to find ourselves.

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

[men continue shouting
in Hawaiian]

- Haa is the Hawaiian
bombastic dance.

It's aggressive,
but you're not acting out.

You're letting them know

the pain that you feel
inside of you

about what you went through
in your life.

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

[David speaking Hawaiian]

I was working for my friend.

He used to remodel homes.

Everyone in the workforce
was pretty much hooked...

On ice.

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

We had a place,
and she was pregnant.

We were both using,

and then it started
going downhill after that.

I think I went on
a 20-year run.

I just went crazy,
in and out of jail,

doing drugs,
picking up charges,

and then
finally ending up here.

You know?

Hoomakaukau!
[group responds in Hawaiian]

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

[men breathe deeply]

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

[applause]

[quiet chatter and laughter]

[David chanting in Hawaiian]

[indistinct chatter]

- You know the first day
I went there,

I watched them do the ai haa,

and I was
instantly drawn to it.

I said, "I wanna learn this."

- It should be everybody.
- Yeah.

- Not just--
[indistinct chatter]

Everybody should be involved,

because it's the people.
- Yeah, they don't know.

- But I would have
never learned it

if I wasn't in prison.

That's messed up.

Why couldn't I
have learned my culture

while I was outside?

And the simple answer
to that

is because I was just
getting more progressive

with the drinking
and the drugs.

[chanting in Hawaiian]

Back in to the--

Boy?

Back in to the
regular triangle.

I Ku Mau Mau, eh?

I always took from people.

That's how I knew how
to get what I wanted in life.

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

The more I understood
our culture,

the more I understood myself.

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

First and foremost,
I am Hawaiian, you know?

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

[indistinct chatter
and laughter]

- You guys stay
warm up already, yeah?

[indistinct chatter]

Okay, one more, then
we're gonna do the auwana.

You guys' legs gonna burn.

- [indistinct speech]

- And make sure
you guys snap 'em!

Jake, when you guys stay up
here and you guys ku i luna,

make sure you guys bring 'em
down with one da kine, yeah?

Okay?

It's a big responsibility
being kumu hula, yeah?

[indistinct chatter]

Some people
never even got a chance

for know things like this,

and yet they Hawaiian, yeah?

[drumming rhythmically]

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

Teaching them our culture,

I love to do it.

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

[rhythmic drumming
and chanting continues]



So in here it shows
all my steps

and the moves of all the hula
that they learn.

This all of my work,
and then I make sure

that all the people get this,

and I refer them to the books
that they need to read.

My time is really long.

I have a life sentence.

So I have 120 years,

and the minimum is 45.

I'll be here quite some time.

Before, you know, my family,
my kids and everything,

this, you know,
it was a disaster.

It was a disaster.
You know?

[indistinct chatter]

Yeah,
this is my home right here.

My home.

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

[rhythmic drumming,
chanting continues]



So every dance
I do with these guys;

you know, every time
I come to this place...

Put your hands up high,
look up towards the right.

It takes me away.

Come back down one more time.

[indistinct speech]

[rhythmic drumming,
men chanting in Hawaiian]

- We're not waiting
for permission

to be indigenous people.

We are indigenous,

and the only way
we're gonna be recognized

is to stand up and say it,
you know?

- For me,
I was carrying a lot of baggage

over the 20 years
that I been in the system.

And that all
gotta get released first.

You gotta kiloi that first

before you can go out there
and try be something pono.

The hula, the haa,
the spirituality.

We can have that
process start in here.

- Right.

And outside,
where do we begin?

We get used to being locked up.

I've seen it way too many
times happen on the outside.

Spin, right back in the door.

You have to have a plan.

"Oh, I'm going to get out
and go back to my family

and get a job,
and I'll be fine."

Some of the families
may not feel that way,

and as far as getting a job,
not so easy.

- [grunts]

Sometimes you gotta
release the pressure.

- Make sure your water's off.

- Try 'em again, boss?

- And we got a nightlight
out in Lima Alpha 16,

which is directly over here.

- Not yet.
Probably tomorrow.

They did all the max-outs,
yeah?

- Next week I heard.
- Yeah?

- That's what I heard.

- No, I got paroled.

- Paroled? Awesome.
- Yeah.

[cart rattling]

- Yeah.

I got a job,
so it's gonna be good.

- That's half the battle
right there.

- Yep.
- That's half the battle.

[buttons beeping]

[line trilling]

- Hello?
- Vina!

- Hi, Dad!

- Hey!

- Hi, Dad!
- [laughs]

Finally got you.

Um, I just wanted to let you
know that, um...

they haven't packed me up yet.

I'm still waiting,
and I'm hopeful that

they're going to call my name.

So, everybody
just gotta stand by and wait.

- That means that you
might not be on this flight?

- Maybe.

But I'm hopeful, and, um...

- When is the flight?

- Next week.

- When is the next flight?

- Probably
three months from now.

- Oh.

- But I miss you.

I miss talking to you.

[baby babbles]
- Miss you, Dad.

- How's the babies?

[baby babbles]
- Big.

- Who's that? Jairus?
- Yeah.

- Oh.

Give him a kiss from me.

- Hold on.

- Mommy.
- [laughs]

- Mama.

Who are you?

- This is Papa, honey.

- Oh.
Where's Papa?

Oh, is that you?

Yes.

- I love you.

I love you.

I love you, honey.

- Yeah.

- Okay.
God bless you, bye.

- Bye!

[phone clicks]

- Her mother and I split up

while she was, like,
real young.

She practically
grew up on her own.

I was not really in her life

the way I should have been.

[breathes deeply]

I'm hopeful this time out.

[jet whooshes]

[dreamy music]



- Take care.

- Hey, good luck.

[door buzzing]

[indistinct radio chatter]

- Today is 6.26.14,
and then 9:15.

Would be.
All right.

- Ready for this.
Let's do this!

[dreamy music]



[speaking Hawaiian]

- Eh,
no squeeze me hard, brah.

No squeeze me.

- I love you.
- [indistinct speech]

- Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
I love you.

Okay, go over there
and go sit down.

I get something for you.

You're gonna have a smile
on your face,

'cause your oldest son
did better this time.

Instead of
all the messed up stuff

I was doing before,
you know what I mean?

The messed up stuff.
Yeah?

I'm sorry. Yeah, Dad.

[clicks tongue]
I, uh...

I know, uh,

I bring shame
to the family name.

But, uh,
I gon' make up for that.

- I apologize to you.

I had expectations.

But...

I apologize for that,
you know?

- That's all in the past, Dad.

We gotta look forward.

Yeah?

Yeah.

[dog barks]

[bright ukulele music]

[horn honks]

- There's your grandchildren!

- [laughs]

- Hey!

[bright ukulele music
continues]



[kid babbles,
David smooching]

Gimme kiss!

Gimme kiss!

[smooching]

This is my daughter, Devina.

Whoo-hoo!

[both inhale deeply]

[David and Tim moaning
and sniffling]

[both speaking indistinctly]

- You know me.

Papa.
Say "Papa."

Papa?

Papa?

[singing in Hawaiian]



[surf crashing]

[singing and ukulele music
continues]



- Eh,
how that one sound, brah?

Good?

[laughter]

I love you. Mm!
- I love you, Dad.

Happy!

- My new job at Hoomau Ke Ola.

It's a clean and sober house.

Teaching the stuff
that I been doing

to the young kanaka
that are currently in rehab.

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

I move forward this way.

Now I'm gonna help my people
get stronger.

[men shouting in Hawaiian]

So helping them
to become stronger

helps me to be stronger.

[David shouts in Hawaiian]

[David chants in Hawaiian]

How you guys feel?

Guys: Good.
- You know what you gotta do?

You gotta find
one place for hanu.

You get breaks, yeah?

[chanting in Hawaiian]

[inhales deeply]

[chants in Hawaiian]

Breathe in through your mouth.

'Cause once you start holding

and you no can breathe in,

next thing you know...

[mimics chanting in Hawaiian]

[laughter]

[laughs]

[laughter]

Not to make fun of the chant.

- [laughs]

- Yeah?
Good job.

[both inhale deeply]

[indistinct chatter]

[light music]



- I been locked up 15 years.

[jet whooshing]

Honestly, brah, I'm nervous.

Not gonna pretend
that I'm not.

[somber music]



[surf crashing]

[door clicks shut]

I gonna be entering
the work furlough program.

Work furlough is transition

from doing long-term
prison sentence

out back into society.

Every day I walk out the gate
for go work...

[door buzzing]

But I gotta always
be back at the facility

by 1:30 in the morning,

no if, ands, or buts.

[engine humming]

[dreamy music]



You know what's so funny
is like

I've been waiting
all this time.

I want to come home,
you know?

But right now,
prison is home, yeah?

Think about it.

That's some years
that I spent there.

So where is home?

You know what I mean?

[door buzzing]

[kids chattering indistinctly]

- ♪ Happy birthday to you

♪ Happy birthday to you

♪ Happy birthday, dear Devina

- [indistinct speech]

- Happy birthday!
[laughter]

- Thank you, Uncle.
- Happy birthday!

26 years.
Wow.

- I think the happiest
time of my life

was when I had my kids.

Miah!
Like swim?

Go change your clothes.

And my daughter,
she got to open up to me

to let me know about the pain
she was going through

the years that
I was absent from her life.

Vina!

No crashing into anybody.

I kinda just....

It tore me up,
because I knew that

I was, like,
letting her down big-time.

But I gotta admit,
it made her strong.

[indistinct]

She's, like,
really playing a big part

in helping me
with my transitioning out.

I need that.

It's important to me.

Come on.

I never had that
the other times.

I came out on my own,

and I always messed up,
you know?

Because that's what happen

when you try things
on your own.

[laughs]

[traffic rumbling]

- In prison, there's so much
restrictions on everything.

So now, out here,

how do I change?

Where do I begin?

It started when I was young.

My mom, she used to
deal weed in the housing.

Everybody knew that.

That's how pretty much
it started.

You know, sneaking,
grabbing her stash,

sneaking and smoking weed
until one day I got caught

and then she just made me
smoke joint after joint

until I threw up.

Came to a part in my life
where it's just like,

I didn't care.

There's that sun, coming up!

Beautiful, eh?

Pretty soon I can actually
go to the beach

and watch the sun rise.

[dramatic music]



Back then, I would
blame everybody for my life.

You know?
Everything but me.

Some things in
life you cannot undo, right?

How do I explain to
the families that I'm sorry?

I can only make sure that
I don't continue to do wrong

and that somehow along
the line, I do better.



- [indistinct speech]

- You gotta stop that, though.

- No, this one?

This my best friend.
- Right now.

I'd like to see you
dump that out.

- Dump um?
- Dump um.

- Nah, I no can.
- Ikaika, ikaika.

- Maika?
- Ikaika. Be ikaika.

I like see you dump that out.
Be ikaika.

- I can, but I no like.
- Why?

- The thing make me
feel better inside, eh?

On the other hand,
I don't see my family, yeah?

I love to drink; that's why.

- Oh, yeah?

It's only temporary, Bu.

It's only temporary.

Okay.
- [indistinct speech]

- [sighs]

- When you're ready.
- [indistinct speech]

I stay over there.
Okay?

Okay?

Eh? Okay?

All right?
[indistinct chatter]

That's our bus.

- [indistinct speech]

Yeah.

I felt like that
over 20 years.

20 years stuck in that.

- Last time we talked about
calling prison home.

- Mm-hmm.
Yeah, still.

- Have you been
working on that one?

[laughter]
I know it's hard.

- Yeah,
I still going through that.

It's just one habit,
but not only that like I said,

it's, like, security, right?

When I get back to the prison,

it's like
now I can breathe again.

Because the environment
that I know.

- Right,
have you used the key at all?

- No.
- Okay, okay.

'Cause that's gonna
help you feel more connected.

- I still wait
for her to go in.

I gotta work on that.

You know, for me,
it's a whole new beginning.

Actually applying
the help that's out there.

- It's so much easier
to just say

"I don't need help."

- I mean, I don't think
I would have gotten this far

if I never had
my church support,

you know, brothers, you.

Without one good lady
by my side,

I would not get this far.

[peaceful music]



- Look at him on
the side of the road.

Babe, you said 7-Eleven.

Oh, that's okay.

- I just ran
back across the street.

Laura
I've known since we were kids.

I used to play football
with the brothers,

and she always
used to come to the field.

She had a crush on me
back then.

Oh, yeah.
Dessert.

I like the sour poi, yeah?

But growing up,
typical housing boy.

I had it in my mind
to be a hee,

spread my love around.

You know what I mean?

[both laugh]

One pound of
tako kimchi poke.

We connected in 2002,

and she stood there with me
all the way.

She never missed one call.

She never missed visit.

She never left my side.

- It ain't gonna go nowhere.
[laughter]

- Yeah, so it's a keeper,
you know?

[surf crashing]

[low atmospheric music]



- When I stand up and I let
people know who I am,

sometimes people
cannot handle it.

People see this totally

hyped up, aggressive guy,

and they don't know
if I have a cool,

soft side or something.

So they misinterpret
a lot of--

A lot of the things that I do.

Aloha.

- Aloha.

[both inhale deeply]

- So before we start,

I just wanted
to explain to you, like,

I know you have concerns.

Um, I'm here to listen, mainly.

And I didn't know how you
guys was going to accept me,

because, you know,
it's hard not knowing.

Every place I went was like,
"whoa," you know what I mean?

And my way is too
aggressive sometimes.

And I gotta learn to
tone it down so...

- I agree.

I don't mean to offend you.

You've been
institutionalized a lot.

Yeah?

And coming back and being
part of the community again,

I was like, "Okay,
let's do it."

- Yeah, yeah.
- You know?

But then also to look,
you know,

"Okay,
how we going do this?

- Right, right.
- You know?

- Mm-hmm.

- Thank you for being open
to toning it down.

[sighs]

[David chanting in Hawaiian]

[continues chanting
in Hawaiian]

I was supposed to be there
full-time.

But now it's like two days
out of the week.

So now what do I do?

[chanting in Hawaiian]

I wanna work.

I'm trying to
do something good.

[chanting in Hawaiian]

[quieter chanting in Hawaiian]

[low atmospheric music]



- This was my mistake
in life growing up...

Hey, brother.

Thinking I'd rather be
respected or feared

than loved.

Today,
it's totally the opposite.

I getting out of prison
after 15 years,

and I getting married.

- Congratulations!
- Yeah!

- My heart's still pounding.

[laughter]
- Aww.

[weed whacker whirring]

- I never thought
I would be this blessed.

- I never like leave
all the rubbish over there.

- That's what I do best!

Make mess!

[laughs]

- Try grab me
another trash bag.

See if you can fit inside.

[laughter]

I get the broom, you know.

- Sometimes you
need to ride on it!

[laughter]

- That's funny, huh?
- Sometimes, not all the time.

[Hale laughs]

No matter what
I gotta put up with

or whatever I gotta go
throughout the day,

whatever I doing,
I doing it for my family.

[door buzzing]

- I should be happy
that I even got a job,

but it's like...

Geez, man.

I owe a whole bunch of money.

[chuckles]

Court fees,
and stuff that I did.

I put on myself.

I owe $45,000

back payments,
child support.

[phone beeping]

[sighs]

[baby babbling]

I just trying to get
this month's rent paid.

And then I can figure out...

[baby babbling]

[phone beeps]

[low atmospheric music]



The last time I was out,

I called up one of my friends

that had something going on.

From Kalihi to Waikiki,

that was the playground, eh?

Money is fast out there.

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

[men clapping rhythmically
and chanting in Hawaiian]

But I don't even
want to go there,

'cause I have too much
to lose right now.

- Where is he?

Wait.
There ya go!

The last one out of the pack.

What happened to 7:30, bud?

- Let's see how
big your stomach is.

- Oh my god, I can imagine.

- The way I see things,
her kids,

they're part of my life now.

Whenever I introduce Shy,

it's like,
"This is my daughter."

Even though,
biologically, she's not.

- What number is that?
39?

- 39.

You are a certified sow.

Anything after 35,
you're just a calf.

Now you're a certified sow.

- Hey, what's up, Doc?
How you doing, Doc?

- Good to see you again.

How's everything going?
- Good, good, good.

- He has his gloves on.

Let's measure your stomach
real quickly first

just to make sure
it's all good.

- 39. 39.

- If she measures 39,
I'd worry, okay?

She's measuring 33.

[laughter]

That would be a bad baby.

- Oh, yeah?
She only 6 inches away from it.

[static crackling]
33...

- Yeah, but 6 inches,
that's a lot.

- For me, that was the
hardest thing in my life,

to actually forgive myself
for failing as a dad.

[heart beat swishing]
I hear him.

- Nice.
- He's hanging out now.

- Awesome.
Good job.

- But...

I know I'm not gonna fail this
being a grandfather.

[indistinct chatter]

- When my mom passed,

that's where I wen' learn
forgiveness for me in life.

- Cute!

- Got the clothespins.

- Growing up was rough.

I was kinda like
addicted to the abuse.

And when she asked me
to forgive her, as a mom,

which I never expected
from her, you know,

I guess from that day on,
everything just...

All the hatred, all the anger,

all the resentment went away.

That right there really
changed my whole thinking.

[indistinct speech]

[indistinct chatter]

- Child support is gonna start

taking out $755 a month,

and I make $7.50 an hour,

which comes out to roughly

about $700 to $800 a month.

I'm not gonna be able
to afford the rent here.

Luckily, my cousin
is willing to help me.

- [sighs]
All right.

Ready?
- Ready.

He's gonna let me
stay at his place

until I can get
back on my feet.

[crickets chirping]

[light ukulele music]

But then nothing
really keeps you grounded.

[light ukulele music]



[crickets chirping]

[birds chirping]

- Congratulations, Dad!

- Mmm?

- I heard that today's
your last day of parole.

- Mm-hmm.

- You actually
made it through without...

- Messing up again?

- Proud of you.
- I know.

[laughter]

- Yeah.

- Actually does work,
right, when you have support?

Thank you for
being an awesome Dad.

Remember I told you last night?

You feel like you
achieved something?

- Not really.

I going let you know
when that day comes.

- But we should count
the little steps

that we take too before us.

If we can't appreciate
and be grateful for that,

we can't appreciate
when the big thing come.

We always want,
want, want, want more.

- Mm-hmm.

- Love you guys!

- Bye!

- Okay!
Be safe!

- Thank you!
God Bless! Love you!

[leaves rustling]

[plaintive music]

[indistinct chatter]



[David chanting
softly in Hawaiian]

- Part of our program
is a culturally based program,

finding pride in themselves
and grasping their identity.

These are our guys from
our therapeutic living program.

[David shouting in Hawaiian]

[men chanting in Hawaiian]

[chanting fades]

[plaintive music]



- It's like--

Like a valve got opened,

and I'm slowly
losing something.

You know what I mean?
Just, like, dripping.

[surf crashing]

[conch shell blowing]

[man chanting in Hawaiian]

- These guys here,
they come and they go.

A lot of them I seen them
come back many times already.

You're either gonna choose the
right path or the wrong path,

and I hope you
make the right choice.

Yeah.

- [chanting in Hawaiian]

- I know ten years ago,

I would have
threw in the towel...

And said "The hell with this."

Yeah.

[Kalani speaks Hawaiian]

- You know,
when you start feeling like

you belong

in prison

or you belong in the drugs,

you know,
the game and that world.

And you stay stuck there
in your mind...

Everything is gonna be hard.

[low atmospheric music]



[door buzzes]

- Now, freedom.

Yeah?

Now, everything begins.

This is where
the real test begins.

Gonna be weird not hearing
something click behind me

when I close the door.

5...

10...

15...

There it goes.

15 years.

[low atmospheric music]

[car beeping]

[low atmospheric music
continues]



- So wait, you just
got back from Arizona?

- Yeah.
- Okay.

- 15 years.
- Oh.

So you folks have been

together for a while then,
huh?

- Yeah.
- Awesome.

Good, see?
Good lady; good man.

You work it out,
everything's good.

You know what I'm gonna do?

You guys are really
touching my heart today.

I'm not going
to charge you, okay?

- Thank you.

- Take her out for
a nice dinner or something.

All right?
- Thank you.

- And I'm glad everything's
working out for you.

- Now face each other.

Will you love and honor her,

cherish and protect her,

in the good times and bad?

And do you promise
to be her best friend

for as long
as you both shall live?

- I do.

- I now pronounce you
husband and wife.

- I love you.

- I love you too.

[birds chirping]

[indistinct speech over PA]

- Da-da.
Da.

- It's not "Da-da."

It's "Papa."

- Pa-pa?

- Yeah, "Papa."

[low atmospheric music]



- So, I was thinking.

From the time I came out
till now,

wouldn't that be a trip

for people to see
how hard it really is?

[surf crashing]

I actually had thoughts
about checking out.

I ended up using.

You know,
going back to the dope.

[coughing]

People always say,
"It's the choices you make."

True.

[water splashing]

[plaintive music]



So being in a house,

paying rent,

that's what you're
expected to do, you know?

Those kind of things.

It's called life.

What I wanted to--

wanted people to know is,
this is life too.

Right here.

You know?

[plaintive music continues]



[David chanting in Hawaiian]

[plaintive music continues]



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