No Safe Spaces (2019) - full transcript
No Safe Spaces contends that identity politics and the suppression of free speech are spreading into every part of society and threatening to divide America.
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Help me get this reporter
out of here!
I need some muscle over here!
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- You know, this is all
very personal to me
"cause I experienced tyranny
at a very young age.
Israel sent me
into the Soviet Union
when I was 21 years old
"cause I knew Russian
and Hebrew,
and I was sent in to smuggle
out the names of Jews
that I would find
in the Soviet Union
and to smuggle in
religious items and so on.
And I really experienced
what most people in the West
have never, ever experienced:
life under a totalitarian
regime."
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In order to keep myself sane,
I would make myself laugh.
So, in my Moscow hotel,
which I knew was bugged-
And how did I know?
It's very simple.
They didn't allow any
Soviet citizen
to stay in the same hotel
as a Westerner.
So I would sing
from the Psalms.
It says,
"They have false gods."
They have ears that don't
hear, eyes that don't see,
but people still
bow down to them.
[singing in Hebrew]
- I think somewhere a cantor
just killed himself.
- A few cantors.
I think one is understating it.
- Everyone says, "Why are you
friends with Dennis Prager?
You have nothing in common."
[laughter]
As if, if our moms' first names
were both Connie,
we'd be simpatico
on every topic.
He comes from the East.
I come from the West.
He comes from religion.
I come from atheist/pagan.
He comes from college
and knowledge.
I come from tomfoolery
and sports,
but yet we both share
a little something
called common sense and values,
and the common sense
and values-
I think this may be the chance
for this country.
Common sense and values
should trump everything.
It should trump LGBT.
It should trump Chicano.
It should trump black.
It should trump Trump.
That's all we should be
focused on,
is common sense and values.
[applause]
This is the place I'd always
kind of dreamt of
when I was a kid.
The houses I grew up in
did not have garages,
and I always wanted cars and
go-karts and mini bikes and-
Well, I wanted
a basketball hoop.
I wanted a dog. I wanted dinner.
I wanted a whole bunch of stuff.
[smooth music]
I found out very early
what could happen to somebody
if you got a free house,
a couple of food tickets,
and just a stipend
from the government,
that it was debilitating.
My mom was never forced to go
out and take care of business,
and I said to her once, sort of
from the mouth of babes,
"Why don't you just get a job?
"You get a job,
we'll have a car.
"We could have a nice car
instead of a junker.
We could get some furniture.
And she said, "If I get a job,
I'll lose my welfare,
meaning, "Use your head, boy.
And I thought at that point-
I realized, not for me.
- I'm a little embarrassed,
because here's a guy
listening to my show
for years,
and he's the most downloaded
podcast in the world,
and I didn't know who he was?
- Adam Carolla and his
partner, Julianne Hough.
[funky music]
[cheers and applause]
- My name's Jimmy,
and his name's Adam.
- The king is parched
and grows weary.
Jester, bring forth
a chalice of ale.
[cheers and applause]
Scamper away.
I don't want to live in a world
where Dennis Prager
knows who I am.
The Dennis I enjoy is,
he's just home.
He's reading the Torah,
and he's smoking a cigar.
I don't want a Dennis Prager
who goes,
'Hey, Ace Man,
"Man Show,'
'Crank Yankers,' love it."
- If somebody were able to pick
the two most
opposite upbringings
in the United States
of America,
they would take my upbringing
and his upbringing.
I remember playing stickball
in Brooklyn, where I grew up.
So some kid would say something,
you know, unbelievably stupid,
and we'd all tell him,
"Will you shut up?"
And he'd go,
"Hey, it's a free country, man.
It's freedom of speech here."
And it basically shut us up.
He's right.
What's happening now
in the United States,
you are not to be heard
on a college campus
or at your place of work.
This is brand-new.
This is one of the few things
one could say
we have no precedent for
in the United States.
- The real question is how long
before they come for your job
and for my job-
I mean, for anyone
who speaks for a living?
- They want to close us down.
No, in all seriousness,
they do want to close us down.
- Don't you have a billion
views on PragerU?
- We do, we had a billion
views last year,
but the same thing's
gonna happen to you.
Look, you're the most
downloaded podcast,
to my knowledge,
in the world, yeah.
- Yeah, I got a family.
I got employees.
- We're not an enemy
to goodness.
We're not an enemy
to good things.
We're an enemy of the dogmatic.
- Dennis and I were gonna
get together
and do an event at CSUN.
That's Cal State Northridge
out here.
A little backstory-
my mother graduated CSUN
with a degree
in Chicano studies,
so that's all you need to know
about my mom and possibly CSUN.
- Never has a thesis
been so confirmed so rapidly.
We were going to do an event,
you and I.
- And we've done events there
before.
- And we've done before.
And the subject was,
essentially,
what is happening
at our universities
in terms of intellectual
openness, et cetera, et cetera?
They had fully approved
you and me being there.
They then canceled it
because of the topic.
It doesn't bother me for me.
It bothers me for this
beloved country of mine.
It bothers me for the young
people who are being deprived
of anything
that could open their minds.
- So I have a vision of us
as people, as human beings
that is interested not in what
is different among us
but what is the same, okay?
So I believe,
even though I'm not like you,
in the sense
of my superficial appearance,
that I can sit down and talk
to you and understand-
understand your predicament,
that I can listen to you.
If that's not true,
if you deny that,
then what is the reason
that you ask to be heard?
Yes, thank you.
That I disagree with.
That I disagree with.
- No, no, no.
- I disagree. I disagree.
- It's not a debate.
- I am sick looking at you.
I am disgusted watching Alex
argue with you.
You are not listening!
You are disgusting.
And now I want your job
to be taken from you.
- People who have a great,
sterling reputation at Yale,
"You know, you're old enough
to decide
what Halloween costume
you should use,"
and for that, it almost causes
a riot at Yale,
and that's Yale.
- And I know last year
on Halloween,
you went as Kevin Hart,
and that caused-
You don't know who
Kevin Hart is.
- Well, I do vaguely,
but the point is, it's cultural
appropriation no matter what.
- That is correct.
- We're on the way
to the airport,
which is where I do much
of my life, the airport.
You know, I go to all sorts
of campuses,
from Berkeley to Columbia
and everything in between.
So, you know, my hope is,
it's Wyoming.
It's a pretty
conservative state.
All will be peaceful
and tranquil.
- It all began when students
invited a special guest
to speak about socialism.
- Yeah, that's right, Aaron.
We were on campus tonight
as hundreds lined up
to see Dennis Prager speak
about his views,
but before he even arrived
to campus,
other students
who did not agree
tried to stop his appearance.
- We're essentially here
because we don't agree
with Mr. Prager's views
at all.
He has said
many hurtful things
and hateful rhetoric towards
underrepresented communities,
of which Wyoming has many
beautiful, diverse communities.
- In the case of the University
of Wyoming, it was precious.
"Dennis Prager, noted-"
which was a compliment-
"Noted bigot,
racist, homophobe, sexist,
Islamophobe, and anti-Semite."
[laughter]
I swear to God.
So word got out to the person
who clearly knew me well,
"It's probably worth
dropping anti-Semite.
"The guy is a well-known Jew,
written books on Judaism,
et cetera."
So they dropped that
without a word of apology,
needless to say.
They just dropped it,
but everything else remained.
- It's ironic that, you know,
"The Los Angeles Times"
would call you bigoted,
because what you do
is the opposite of bigoted,
which is,
"I don't care who's listening.
I will simply speak the truth
as I know it to you,"
versus a version that is meant
for this color
and that group
and the LGBT community.
Dennis is the most decent,
moral person I've ever met,
and thus, he does not have
this animus in his heart,
so he's able to be free
to piss everyone off.
[laughter and applause]
- The only reason
for the attack
is that I'm known
as a conservative.
This is a brainwash
that they undergo.
If you are conservative,
then you are not wrong.
You are evil.
They have to think we're evil.
Otherwise they have
to debate us.
All: Racist go home!
Racist go home!
- The chaos centered around
controversial conservative
Ben Shapiro.
- Values matter significantly
more than melanin level.
Racial diversity doesn't mean
anything.
Decency means something.
Diversity is not a bad thing,
but it isn't a good thing
unless the people who are
racially diverse
are also decent.
- Concerns over safety
and threats
prompted University President
William Covino
to cancel
the preapproved speech,
but Shapiro continued with his
scheduled appearance,
drawing dozens of protesters
who were desperate
to stop him.
- Look at me. I mean, like,
do I look like
a physical threat to anybody?
Last time I was in a fight,
I was 14 years old.
I was two years younger
than everybody else
in my high-school class,
and I was getting
my ass kicked.
- When I went to college,
suddenly there were some folks
who didn't think at all
like me.
I've heard some
college campuses
where they don't want
to have a guest speaker
who is too conservative.
All:
Charles Murray, go away!
Racist, sexist, anti-gay!
- That's the free speech
of the left.
- This is not an argument.
This is a religion.
- When Professor Stanger was
escorting Murray out,
she was left with
a concussion and whiplash.
- Shouldn't we be able to agree
on protecting free speech
no matter who is speaking?
- There will be resistance,
and it will not be peaceful.
Resistance to violent
hate speech
is not another act of hate.
It is an act of love.
- Whoever told you you only had
to hear what didn't upset you?
[suspenseful music]
[indistinct shouting]
All:
Shut it down! Shut it down!
Shut it down! Shut it down!
Shut it down!
Shut it down!
[explosion, screaming]
- A protest has turned violent
at the University
of California, Berkeley.
- Campus locked down as more
than 1,000 people rallied
against the appearance
of a controversial editor
from Breitbart,
Milo Yiannopoulos.
- All I care about is free
speech and free expression.
I want people to be able to be,
do, and say anything.
- It's disgusting.
It's one thing to protest
someone's right
to come here and speak,
but it's another thing
to create
this much amount
of destruction and violence
and hurt and harm
other people.
- We need our voices heard,
and if this is the way
that we think it must be done,
then I suppose
that's what we got to do.
- It sends the message
that under no means
will we allow any of this to
go on anywhere near Berkeley.
- Has the birthplace
of free speech
now become its graveyard?
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- If there's a fundamental
American right,
it's to say what's
on your mind.
The idea that if
you offend me,
you should not speak...
- To create a unsafe space
here for all-
- I did not-
- Be quiet!
- Is so bizarre.
- What a lot of people
don't get
and Americans get to take
for granted
is that free speech is a very
weird thing in human history.
Mostly, our instincts are,
we don't like dissenters.
We prefer to behead them,
set them on fire,
send them out of our village.
- Free speech is unique
to the United States.
Lots of countries pretend
to have it,
but they'll cut your head off
for blasphemy in Saudi Arabia.
In Thailand they'll throw you
in a prison
if you make fun of the king.
In Russia and China,
you go to jail
if you say anything nice
about gay people.
In Germany,
you can't praise Nazis.
Sounds good, right?
But maybe not.
Doesn't stop people from
promoting Nazism in secret.
It just means you can't
debate them in public.
France convicted
Brigitte Bardot five times
for criticizing the practice
of animal sacrifice
at a Muslim festival.
[sheep baas]
The U.K. convicted a comic
of a hate crime
for teaching a pug
to do a Nazi salute.
Just over the border
in Canada,
a Christian preacher
was arrested for, wait for it
preaching in public.
Pretty much everywhere else,
cops can come to your house
and arrest you for a rant
or a complaint
or even for making a joke.
The only reason
they can't do it here
is because we have
the First Amendment.
- The only reason why you have
a First Amendment
is to protect
the rights of minorities,
the rights of the oddball,
the rights of the underdog.
Free speech battles on campus
in the 1960s,
starting in Berkeley
and the Free Speech Movement
in 1964,
were primarily about
whether or not
you could have politics
on campus,
and that was the start
of the Free Speech Movement.
From 1964 on, it, you know,
took over campuses
all over the country,
and [ think it was
so successful
that there was probably
a perfect week in 1977
when free speech
was protected on campus
at a level it never had been
before and would be again,
probably right around the time
"Star Wars came out.
The phase that we're in
right now
is the most distressing one.
Sometime around 2013, 2014,
the students themselves
started demanding
new speech codes
or that people not be
invited to speak,
or if they were invited,
that they be disinvited.
- Both Condoleezza Rice
and Christine Lagarde
had to withdraw themselves
from giving speeches
at Rutgers
and Smith Universities.
- That was when you first
started hearing
about trigger warnings,
things like
microaggression training.
- We're not sure if we even
believe in freedom anymore.
Most universities today don't
require classes in civics,
courses to know
the fundamentals
of the Constitution.
Instead, we have classes
on the things that divide us-
identity politics.
If we don't rediscover,
reclaim an understanding
of the foundations
of our society, we're in
jeopardy of losing it.
[light music]
- Whew, you sure got to be
careful what you say nowadays
so people don't get offended.
Wow, I wonder who that
little scrap of paper is.
I'm the First Amendment,
yes, the very First Amendment
And I'm found
in the Bill of Rights
Well, it's a long, long time
since my ink has dried
And a long, long time
since my authors died
But I'm just as important
today as I was back then
At least I hope I am
'Cause I defend
all your rights
- Gee, First Amendment,
you certainly sound important.
- Call me Firsty.
I like to think I'm important,
but I'm not so sure anymore.
- How come people don't know
more about you, Firsty?
- People tend to take me
for granted,
but if it wasn't for me,
Americans wouldn't be able
to say what they want to say.
- Oh, no.
- Oh, yeah.
Sometimes when people
speak their mind,
other people get offended.
I hope people remember why
I'm important, or I may die.
- Die?
- Yeah, die...
along with the rest
of your freedoms.
I'm the First Amendment,
yes, the very First Amendment
Without me,
you'd be living in China
In the Bill of Rights,
I'm the leadoff hit
Read me in a museum or when
you're sitting on the sh-
[tires screeching]
[gunfire]
Both: Firsty!
- [groans]
- Why?
- [groaning]
both: No!
- Liberty is a value,
not a natural inclination.
- Yeah, I love when I listen to
Dennis's show and somebody says,
"Well, everyone yearns
to be free."
- No.
- And he says, "No."
- They yearn to be
taken care of.
The greater yearning
of the human species
is to be taken care of,
not to be free.
The French Revolution
and the American Revolution
are at war with one another.
Their motto was "Liberty,
equality, fraternity."
That was not in our motto.
We have "Liberty, in God
we trust, e pluribus unum...
life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness."
They're different values,
and we have raised
a generation
to believe that being
taken care of
is more important
than liberty.
49% of kids on campuses
in America today,
according to Pew Research,
do not believe in free speech
for hate speech.
You know how moronic that is?
The issue of free speech
doesn't apply to love speech.
Nobody ever threatened
love speech.
It's precisely the speech
you hate or you find hateful
that needs to be protected,
but this is unknown.
This is why we're fighting
for the soul of America.
[applause]
[somber music]
So how many of you think people
should be free in America
or on a university campus
to say whatever they want?
One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight.
How many of you think
there should be restrictions
on what you can say
on a campus?
One, two, three, four, five,
six, so it's pretty much tied.
So no country in the world
has had free speech
as much as this country.
In Europe, you can be arrested
if you say things
that the government thinks
is hateful.
Give me an example-
those of you who said
that you think
there should be restrictions,
give me an example of what
should not be allowed
to be said.
- I would say, like, if you
have Nazi beliefs or values
and you raise those
because that can
make people uncomfortable.
- Okay, that's very important.
So I'm a Jew, and Nazis
killed six million Jews.
That's one out of every
three Jews on Earth
was annihilated
in World War |I by the Nazis.
So I have a real hatred
to Nazis,
but I believe they should
be allowed
to march freely in America,
because if we say to the Nazi
today, "You can't speak,"
then we'll say
to a non-Nazi tomorrow,
"You can't speak either."
And we hope that
if everybody speaks,
the good ideas will win.
- Free speech is one
of the greatest innovations
in human history.
It's how we figured out how
to have peaceful,
pluralistic societies
that are endlessly creative
and free.
Free speech done correctly
is one of the most
exciting experiences
you can have in your life.
Throw anything out there.
We'll question anything.
Let's figure stuff out.
It's absolutely thrilling.
And I also think
that it's incredibly fragile.
If I thought that free speech
would just be something
that could defend itself,
I wouldn't be as worried
about it,
but humans don't really
like freedom of speech.
They like to say they like it.
They definitely like their own
freedom of speech.
They don't necessarily like
your freedom of speech
that much.
- So we had an attorney
write CSUN a letter.
You folks, you have a charter
which says
that there's free speech
on your campus.
So they had no choice.
- So we're coming back, and
we're saying whatever we want.
- Exactly.
So here is exhibit A
of a man who was raised
with white privilege.
- Oh, yes.
I got into a semi-heated debate
with a black fella
who was on public radio,
and he went on to explain
to me,
I didn't know what I was
talking about
because of my white privilege.
And I said, "Well, let's
examine my white privilege,
may we?"
I did not go to college.
I worked cleaning carpets.
Later on,
I worked on construction sites,
not as an apprentice or
a carpenter, but as a laborer-
digging ditches,
mostly cleaning up garbage.
Whatever work donkeys
were qualified to do,
that's what I did.
At a certain point, when I felt
like my white privilege
wasn't kicking in at all...
[laughter]
Mom was on food stamps
and welfare,
Dad was eking out a living
and had no extra money or time
for anybody else,
I said, "You know what
would be a good job for me?
Fireman. I'm strong.
I'm eager for the fray.
I have no qualms
about my personal safety,
and [ think I would make
a good fireman.
Plus, I love chili.
I love playing foosball,
and as far as I could tell,
when they're not putting
out fires,
they're eating chili
and playing foosball,
So I just walked over there,
and I said,
I'm gonna put in an
application to be a fireman,"
and they said, "Fine.
I filled it out.
I handed it to the guy,
and the guy said,
Don't hold your breath."
And I said,
"What does that mean?
And he said, "We're not gonna
be getting to you
for some years.
And when you're 19
and you're destitute
and your stepmom"s
trying to extricate you
from the garage
you're living in
and you have no job
or no real income,
the notion of "We'll call you
in six or seven years"
is not a buoy you cling to.
And sure enough,
I moved out of the house.
I was about 25, 26, five,
six years
into my carpentering career.
My dad showed up
to my apartment one day,
and he had a letter,
and he said,
It's from the I A.
Fire Department."
And sure enough, there was
a date to take the written test
the following weekend.
And I said, "I don't even
want to be a fireman anymore,
but because I've waited
six years to be a fireman,
I'm going down
to Hollywood High
on 10:00 a.m. on Saturday."
And I stood in line.
There was a young lady,
very diminutive lady,
a small, slightly built lady
behind me,
could not tell her nationality.
Could have been black, Latino,
or mixed
or something like that.
Everyone around me-
I kept saying,
"When did you put in
your application?
When did you put it in?"
I turned around to her,
and I said,
"When did you put in
your application?"
And she said, "Tuesday.
[laughter]
- A safe space is a place
you can go to
where it's safe
to do whatever you want.
You can just be yourself,
and no one's gonna say
or do anything
that makes you uncomfortable.
- There's this myth that when
you're in a safe space,
all you do
is sing "Kumbaya" or something.
The reality is,
it's when you feel safe
that you have some of the most
important
transformative discussions,
at least I do
when I'm in my safe spaces.
- Once you go beyond college,
you're gonna have
uncomfortable experiences,
but to kind of force yourself
through pain
and difficult experiences
is totally unnecessary.
- See,
I never went to college.
I was a builder,
but I always thought college
was this place for ideas.
And now it's turned
into a place
for some ideas
but not other ideas,
and that seems to fly in
the face of ideas in general.
- For a generation that demands
safe spaces,
that equates ideas they don't
like to actual physical battery
and requires trigger warnings
for class assignments
that might be upsetting,
there's a name-snowflakes.
- We're creating
this environment
where liberals and leftists
and progressives on campuses
think that they need
to get government authority
or university authority
to protect their ears
from stuff that they don't like
or stuff that's
actually offensive
or that is racist or that is
sexist or that is horrible,
and I just think that
that's a very dangerous view.
- I'm saying this not
for conservatives.
I'm saying this for liberals.
They have been bubble-wrapped
in academia for 40 years.
- When you try to create
a safe space
in which it's difficult
to be unsettled, unnerved,
you reinforce walls,
which makes it difficult for you
to cultivate the capacity
to learn from other people,
especially people
you disagree with.
- Can I just say,
it feels really nice
to live in a bubble
for a little while.
You feel safe.
You feel protected.
You feel like everyone agrees
with you and you're right.
- I If you do not like me &
you are not allowed
in my safe space I
all:
My safe space
- I Look and you will see
There's a very select
crowd in your safe space I
all:
My safe space
- I People that support me
I Mixed in with more people
that support me -
I And say nice things,
rainbows all around me
I There is no shame
in my safe space
- I My safe space &
- No university should
ever create
a safe space for an idea.
If you want to feel good,
get a massage.
- I want every student on
campus to be physically safe.
I don't want anybody
getting beat up.
I don't want anybody getting
sexually assaulted or molested.
I don't want anybody singled
out for, you know, threats,
but if you mean emotionally
safe or intellectually safe,
I don't know why you're
in college,
because the whole point is that
you're going to leave soon,
and I want you to be offended
every single day.
All:
? Social Justice Warriors
Get triggered 2
both:
Bias Response Team, go!
All:
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- We've gotten
to a point where,
if you say you're tolerant
all the time,
if you talk about diversity
all the time
and tolerance all the time,
people somehow think that means
you are tolerant
and you care about diversity,
and in almost every case
almost without fail,
today that's actually
the reverse.
So right now it's very in
for everyone on the left
to talk about tolerance and
diversity and all these things,
and what is the type
of diversity that they hate?
Well, the type of diversity
that they hate
is diversity of thought.
- Dave Rubin has
every credential
of a bona fide liberal.
I mean, Dave Rubin is gay.
Dave Rubin is married to a man.
Dave Rubin is a lifelong
Democrat.
- When I talk about liberalism,
what is liberalism,
and how is it different
than leftism?
Liberalism really is
about the individual,
and it's about live
and let live.
It's not just this
amorphous idea of tolerance,
which is what leftism is.
That's a collectivist view
of the world,
where we should be grouping
all of these people
and we should be taking
from some and giving to others,
and it is a shake
that will eat its own tail.
- You are a liberal.
- I am.
- We obviously have
different politics,
but it doesn't matter.
On freedom of speech
we are completely united.
Do you feel right now,
ideologically,
your biggest enemy
are conservatives or the left?
- Oh, there's no question.
A, my biggest enemy is
the hard left.
B, the hard left poses
a far greater danger
to the American future
than the hard right.
I'm not worried about a few
dozen people with swastikas...
- Thank you.
- Who want to replace
the Jews
'cause they're our past.
They have no resonance
on university campuses today.
- Right.
- But the hard, hard left
anti-Semitism,
anti-Christianity,
intolerance for speech,
these are our leaders.
When I used to teach
150 students
in my first year
of criminal law,
I'd look around, and I'd say,
"Future president,
"future chief justice,
'future editorial director
of 'The New York Times,'
future managing partner
of Goldman Sachs."
They're our future.
- What's happened
to this place?
Ah!!
[suspenseful music]
[gasps]
Ah!
This was the home of ruthless
media disrupter
Samuel F. B. Morse.
Who's his successor,
that fellow?
- Fellow? That word
is cisgender normative, okay?
You're worse than Hitler!
- Too late for flattery.
I'm not giving this school
a dime.
- I've seen,
over the past 30 years,
how the university has changed
and not for the better.
Now they don't tolerate
the other side's viewpoint,
and there are no conservatives
that are speaking out.
If you're conservative
at this university, good luck.
First of all,
I don't know how-
you're not gonna get hired.
I don't know what department's
gonna hire you
at what college
it's gonna hire you at.
You're not gonna get promoted.
There's no way that
you're gonna be accepted
by your fellow faculty,
and I'm telling you right now,
they're gonna figure out
a way to get rid of you.
I mean, they will
figure out some means
by whatever hook and crook.
They'll never say it's because
of your political orientation,
but they're gonna
get rid of you.
This is also something of an
irony, but it's also really-
I think it's kind of dangerous
that there's only
one worldview now
that's allowable
in the university,
and if you don't have that,
you better be quiet.
- You must think like we think
and do what we do,
and if you don't,
you're verboten.
You're unwelcome.
You can't even speak here.
You can't teach here.
You can't attend here.
How in the world can we
possibly argue
that this is academic freedom?
It is ideological fascism.
You must be one of us,
or you're unwelcome.
- Is it hard to be
a conservative at Berkeley?
Yeah, sometimes.
- My name's Isabella Chow.
I'm a third-year student
at UC Berkeley
studying business and music.
In spring 2018, I was elected
to student senate at Berkeley.
There's a bill proposed
to our student senate
that I felt like
I couldn't fully vote for
because of my Christian beliefs
and because I represented
the Christian community
on campus.
And so I abstained from voting
on that bill that night,
and I gave a short statement
of why I abstained,
and the backlash was swifter
and bigger
than what I would have
ever imagined.
- Senator Chow!
all: Resign now!
- Senator Chow!
all: Resign now!
- There were hundreds
of students that came in
and protested the fact
that I was still a senator
and demanded my resignation.
- Tonight is not about
dismissing Christianity
as universally toxic,
but about validating
the experience of those
at the hands of bigots who have
cowardly hid behind religion
to justify their actions.
- Sitting there was
really hard.
It was just difficult
to hear the accusations
of people calling me a bigot,
calling me a hater.
I hoped that there would be
dialogue.
I hoped that there would be
mutual respect
and understanding.
- When trans people are
under attack, what do we do?
All:
Stand up, fight back!
- At this point,
I've been disaffiliated
with every organization
that I had a working
relationship with
and voted out of clubs
that I've been in,
like, even since
freshman year,
but I wasn't elected to not
listen to my conscience,
and I wasn't elected
to not represent
a religious voice on campus,
even if that voice
is a minority here at Berkeley.
- I've been assaulted
on my campus.
- You were assaulted?
- The night after the election,
yes.
- You were physically assaulted?
- Physically assaulted.
I was walking back
from a meeting that I had,
and the assumption was that
someone followed me
out of a building,
knew where I was
'cause I had that meeting
every single week at that time,
and someone came up to me
and said, you know,
"F you, racist B-word,
you support a racist party,"
and just threw me
down the hill.
- Was anyone prosecuted for it?
- Mm-hmm.
- This is what they've tricked
everybody into thinking.
You know, years ago it was
you were a racist
and you were a bigot.
Then it became Nazis.
Now it's white supremacists,
or sometimes it's Nazis,
and they'll always ramp
this thing up.
- I've been called
a white supremacist.
I've been called a Nazi.
You know, what's crazy
about calling someone a Nazi-
that term is so malleable these
days-
is you can reduce them
to a, you know, inhuman form,
and you can justify punching
them or attacking them, even.
- You're not videoing me.
- All right, well,
we're in public.
So I'm just gonna video it
for my own safety
'cause you seem really erratic.
- You are [bleep]
encouraging violence.
- No, I'm not.
[objects clatter]
- Get your [bleep] phone out
of my face, mother[bleep].
Get your phone out
of my [bleep] face.
[bleep] you.
[bleep] you.
- Oh, [bleep].
- "The Dennis Prager Show
returns in five seconds.
[dramatic music]
- I want to ask you something
"cause you're so
on top of the situation
on campuses.
Right now if you had to grade
freedom of speech on campuses
versus two years ago,
would you say
it's getting worse,
it's the same, awful, or what?
- So what's happening is that
there's a student population
that has been silenced,
that has been ostracized for
their beliefs and their views.
Make no mistake, it's not just
the free speech laws
and the free speech zones,
but it's the culture.
This is what's so important.
It's what is culturally allowed
to be said
and not allowed to be said.
- I grew up during
the McCarthy period
when it was the extreme right
at Brooklyn College
which told me I had no right
to express my views,
and it was the liberals
that were demanding free speech
and the conservatives
that were trying to deny it.
Today it's flipped.
- My name is Chevy Swanson.
I'm the president
of the College Republicans
here at the University
of Washington.
We wanted to invite
Joey Gibson
from Patriot Prayer
to come do a freedom rally.
We expected about,
maybe 100 people at most
in the middle
of out central area on campus,
Red Square-ironically named.
Protesters started making
posts on social media,
saying they were gonna
come protest,
and the school ramped up
security on us,
telling us that because
we invited a speaker
that made the protesters mad
that we had to pay every cent
of security
caused by the protesters.
At first, that was $17,000,
and that's a bill we got a week
before the event-
an impossible bill to pay.
- We were forced to spend
$10,000 in security.
- The day after I submitted
my application,
they changed the rule
to now where if your security
costs more than $1,000,
you must make up
the difference.
- So they interrupt
conservatives,
and then conservatives
have to foot the bill?
- The College Republicans
are actually
under investigation right now-
you know, causing
all these riots
because of the speakers
we bring in.
- You're causing the riots?
- Yeah, so...
- Not the rioters?
- Ann Coulter's visit
to UC Berkeley
isn't for another month,
but student organizers
of the event
say they are nervous.
- Do I support what happened
at the Milo Yiannopoulos event?
Yes, I do, and what
we're saying this time is
we need to come out again, and we need
to come out in bigger numbers.
- Okay, let me ask you
a question here.
Let's just say
that Rachel Maddow
was scheduled to speak at Cal.
And let's say that people
on the far right
were really angry about that.
They did not want her to speak,
and they came out,
and they protested,
and they were violent,
and they kept Rachel Maddow
from speaking.
How would you feel then?
- I'm trying to picture
that actually happening.
- Campus police Captain
Alex Yow
says police simply
could not guarantee
that Coulter's originally
planned speech would be safe.
- We're hiding in the airport
in a baseball cap.
[chuckles]
That is exactly where we are.
They are fascists.
They don't want another point
of view.
I mean, I've been doing
these college speeches
for more than a decade.
- On the Berkeley campus,
College Republicans are
fighting
to give Coulter a platform
this week.
They filed a lawsuit Monday
trying to force the university
to ease restrictions
they say are only placed
on conservative speakers.
- I think it's important
to call that what it is,
which is essentially just
shredding the Constitution,
or in a way that we see
happen a lot
at Young America's Foundation
when we're working with
students on their campuses,
is this is the classic argument
that leftists will use
in order to shut down
conservative speech.
- Security is the new
"Shut up,
because by the time you factor
in all the security costs,
you could stage "Hello Dolly
Meets Godzilla on Ice"
for the same cost
as bringing Charles Murray in
to give a 20-minute speech
to a few students.
- I don't even-
I'm perplexed, even,
that people could even say,
"Oh, it's not an issue."
It's, like, one of the biggest
issues in America today,
that the place that is
supposed to be
a place of ideas,
the university,
is the most closed place
in the United States.
It's very important for people
to understand
that this is not just
affecting conservatives.
Liberals are being shut down.
[dramatic music]
- I considered myself
a leftist.
I was a teaching assistant
for Communication Studies 101.
I wanted my students
to comprehend
how grammar could actually be
a big issue in our society.
To demonstrate this point,
I brought in a clip
from TV Ontario.
So this is the province's
public broadcaster.
And in the particular clip
I showed,
it was Professor
of Transgender Studies
Nicholas Matte,
and he was talking
to Professor Jordan Peterson
from the University of Toronto.
- And your attempts to regulate
my language use and-
- I don't care about
your language use.
I care about the safety of
the people who are being harmed.
- I know. People who make
your kinds of arguments
are always concerned
with other people's safety.
- I want to have really
deep discussions
about all sorts of issues,
and I don't think anything
should be off-limits.
And that is today
what makes you an evil person.
When I showed the clip in my
class, I did not take a stance.
I was neutral.
I treated Peterson's argument
just as valid
as Matte's argument,
but that was the problem.
It was a problem
that I was neutral.
I was just genuinely
very confused,
because to me,
the university is a place
where you can
question anything.
- Dr. Jordan Peterson refuses
to be pigeonholed.
His new self-help book,
12 Rules for Life,
is already a best seller.
Hundreds of thousands
subscribe
to his online lectures.
His speeches regularly
attract protests.
- I'm not arguing
about your rights.
- And his new speaking tour
is selling out.
- I think he's dangerous
because of the sorts of people
that he enables.
- It's quite the place
you've got here.
So tell me about this one.
- It's a really nicely
built car.
- Mm-hmm.
Hardly looks like
it's ever been driven.
- It's been very well taken
care of, unlike its owner.
- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah, I've been put away wet.
So are they gonna pass a law
in Canada outlawing pronouns?
- Oh, it's already passed.
If you're an advocate
of free speech,
which you are if you're
an advocate of freedom,
then you still might say,
"Okay, well, there are limits.
Some of them are illegal.
I can't incite violence.
I can't incite someone
to a crime,"
you know,
and that's already illegal,
so there are limits
of that sort.
This is different.
This is the law insisting
that you say something.
"You use my language,"
and my response was,
"There isn't a hope in hell
that I will ever use
your language."
- Once you control the language,
you control the outcome.
- Yeah, well, that's why
I wouldn't say those words.
It's because
that's exactly right.
As soon as I allow you
to define the territory
in which we're going to engage,
then you get to win.
- There's a reason
that every time
one of these professors or TAs,
whether it's Lindsay Shepherd
in Canada
or Bret Weinstein
in Washington,
why are they all lefties
who then say one thing
that upsets the left,
and then they're purged?
It will come for you.
I mean, if there is someone
that's watching this right now
that is a hard-core progressive
that's going,
"Man, I hate Prager and Rubin,
and this is all nonsense,"
guess what.
If you have any spark
of individualism in you,
if you have anything about you
that's interesting or different,
they will come
to destroy that, too.
[dramatic music]
- You know, most people
don't get to see
the thing that they love,
a system that has the potential
to do great good in the world,
be destroyed from within.
[line trilling]
- Dean's office.
- It's Stacy Brown.
Is Steve around?
- Oh, he just walked
in the door.
Hang on.
- Thanks.
- Yeah.
- Stop telling people of color
they're [bleep] useless.
You're useless.
Get the [bleep]-
all:
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
Bret Weinstein has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
Bret Weinstein has got to go!
- I think we did not see,
effectively,
a coup in the institution
coming,
and we didn't feel
vulnerable to it
because we were both
very popular among students
and we had the equivalent
of tenure.
- Weinstein, who identifies
as politically left,
had announced he was
boycotting a decades-old event
created by students of color
at the school.
- Day of Absence was a
tradition on Evergreen's campus
from very nearly the founding
of the college.
Day of Absence is named after
a play by Douglas Turner Ward,
a black playwright,
and the premise of the play
is that in a fictional
Southern town
the black population
decides not to show up one day
in order to make the point
to the white population
about the important role
that they are playing.
Last year the committee that
organizes the Day of Absence
announced in a faculty
meeting-
a faculty meeting in which
there was no opportunity
to ask any questions-
they announced that
white people were being asked
to leave the campus
for the day.
And it was so strange
to hear that announced,
that I assumed
I had misunderstood
what had been said,
and then the administration
of the college made it clear
that they were strongly
encouraging white people
not to come to school
on that day
in an effort to
Center people of color."
I found this offensive.
This was not, as
it was being portrayed,
a simple flip of the script
where instead of people
of color,
it was white people this time.
This was people organizing
this protest
telling others not to show up
to a public college
on a particular day
because of the color
of their skin,
which is anathema
to me as a liberal,
so I said so.
There was a backlash
over email.
My email went to the staff
and faculty email list.
There were students who worked
on campus
who were on that list,
which I was aware of,
and I just simply said,
"This is unacceptable,
and you can expect me
to be on campus on that day."
Tuesday, May 23rd of 2017,
I went to work.
I biked in as I always did.
I began teaching
my morning class,
and a student who I knew
pretty well from a past program
called me over a bit concerned
and said,
"Do you know that there
are people outside the door
chanting for you to be fired?"
And I said,
"No, that's pretty odd."
What shocked me was that
they were not at all
interested in that discussion.
If somebody who was the object
of a protest
that we were participating in
wanted to talk to us about
the nature of that protest,
I would have been right there.
So how is it that
I was being protested
by people who
weren't interested
in even engaging me
on the question
and showing me
that I might be wrong?
It would be weeks before I
would understand why that was.
All: These racist teachers
got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
These racist teachers
got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
These racist teachers
got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
These racist teachers
got to go!
- Protesters then engaged
the president of the college
and got him to agree
to a meeting.
I decided that I should be
at that meeting.
If they were calling
for my firing,
I wanted to be there
to answer the charges.
I found a seat and sat down.
Within a couple of minutes,
there was an announcement
by protesters,
who were clearly in complete
charge of this meeting,
saying that the food and water
that was available,
publicly supplied,
were for people of color,
and that white people should not
avail themselves
of those things.
That was the tenor
of the meeting.
[cheers and applause]
- So / was here,
and I get this text from Bret,
two of them, actually.
The first one says,
They say I may not be
allowed to leave."
The second one,
I'm not sure what to do."
And then silence.
I heard from one dean
before I knew anything
about what had happened,
and that dean's concern
was that Bret not talk
to the press.
That was the concern
from the college,
that if any of the press
came calling,
he should send them
to college PR.
- At the end of the meeting,
I was allowed to leave,
and I left the building
with a number of my students,
and I was flanked
by a number of other people
who wanted to talk to me
for various reasons,
including one young woman
who I think in some ways
had not gotten the message that
talking to me was not allowed.
The next day the protesters
made a point
of bringing her to a rally
that they had organized
on campus
and having her read
a statement
that they had
prepared publicly,
and it's heart-wrenching
for me.
She read this statement,
and she butchered it.
Reading out loud maybe
in front of a group
was not in her skill set.
- Based on false,
racially charged alleged-
allegations.
- They effectively
humiliated her
in order to demonstrate that
they had recaptured her
in some way.
- Whereas the college
administration specific-
[mumbling]
Sorry.
- There are a lot of moments
that are
particularly telling
from the protest,
but I must say, that is among
the most chilling to me.
- It's our students
that are stopping people.
- Oh, our students
that are stopping people.
Why aren't we stopping them
from stopping people?
- Because the president
has told Stacy to stand down.
- I biked this direction,
which to this point is
my normal commute.
I saw people that I recognized
from the protest
the day before.
They saw me,
and they appeared to start
doing something
with their phones,
and I kept biking,
and then I realized,
"That just doesn't feel right,"
and I took the next entrance
into campus,
and I went to the police
station, and I said,
"Here's what I think
I experienced,
but I must be imagining it."
And she said, "I don't think
you're imagining it.
"I think they're looking
for you, and what's more...
"I can't protect you.
"You're not safe on campus,
and you're not safe anywhere
in town on your bicycle."
I think it's pretty clear
what happened at Evergreen
is an extreme case,
and I've heard people
dismiss it on that basis,
that it was just a very
liberal campus
that went farther off
the deep end than any other,
and I think that's really
a mistake.
In some ways, Evergreen
is a preview of what's coming.
The fact that this
is happening
across so many campuses
means that it is going
to spread
into every quadrant
of society,
and things are going
to get worse elsewhere.
So Evergreen is describing
a future
that is rapidly approaching.
[explosion, siren wailing]
- These ideas have sort of
contaminated the campuses,
but how are they getting
off the campus
and into the mainstream?
- Well, they're partly
doing that
because the mainstream
will be run
by the people who are
on campuses,
but there's a more
conspiratorial element
to it than that.
It's like, it's very important
to remember
that the most politically
correct disciplines
are producing activists.
That's their goal,
and so they have a stated goal
of infiltrating organizations
and altering them in the
politically correct direction.
- Once we've created
an expectation,
that it's a nice thing
to do to censor people
in an enlightened way,
there's no reason to believe
that they're not gonna
construct a world
that looks like that,
and that is not a good world
for dissent.
That's not a good world
for oddballs.
It certainly isn't
a good world for comedians.
- Bill Belichick,
the most confident coach
of all time, right?
Most coaches are like,
"I want raw athletes,
raw talent, sheer athleticism."
And Belichick's like, "Yeah,
that's cool. You got any Jews?"
[laughter]
Yeah, Jews, like,
five, six Jews.
No, we got, like, 6'4"
black dudes. No, no, too easy.
A Mexican,
you got a Mexican?"
Give me a place
with no free speech,
and I'll tell you,
unfunny people.
Russian comedy is-there's
a doll, and then you open it,
and then there's a little doll,
and then, wait for it,
you open that little doll,
and there's an even
smaller doll.
This is highbrow
Russian comedy,
is little doll, little doll,
little doll,
little doll, right?
And it's funny to them
every single time it opens.
There's another little doll,
and they can't get enough,
oh, my God.
That's no-free-speech comedy.
- I know what
microaggressions are.
It's the latest liberal attack
at free speech
and a lot of fun
if you do them right.
- The university has
a list of stuff
they don't allow speakers
to say,
you know,
to protect the students.
- From what, ideas?
- Allen is responding
to the show's
unexpected cancellation.
Some say the show was axed
because of its portrayal of
conservative Christian values.
- If it was a bomb,
you could understand,
but the sitcom was ABC's
second-highest-rated comedy
this season.
- Isn't it spooky that
we're having this discussion?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- But we have to have it.
- I understand,
but it's just kind of spooky
that it's even a thing that
you're even thinking about,
that we have to be modulated,
and I'm a little worried
about it,
a little alarmed
about things I cannot say.
I do it anyway because
the thing I've always loved
about this is it's people,
money, and me.
There's no middleman in this.
Essentially, I'm running
the show at that moment.
But it is weird
that I'm thinking a little bit.
- We as comedians,
the whole point
of what we're doing
on stage with our words
is to make a point
about the absurdities of life.
- Right.
- Like, I have a joke about,
you know, being comfortable
with my size, you know,
and I say, "It depends on where
I'm geographically,
"and if I'm in New York,
I'm pleasantly plump.
If I'm in L.A.,
I'm a beached whale."
I say if I'm in the Midwest,
I'm anorexic, and it's awesome.
- Right.
- And then I've had someone
come up to me after a show
and be like,
"You know, I was bulimic
in high school, and-"
- Right.
- I'm like, "Okay, calm down.
"That wasn't about you,
first of all.
It was a joke, and that's
what I'm up here to do."
- How accountable can we be
when you are, in real time,
trying to create humor?
And as I explain to people
all the time...
the sort of foundation of humor
is negative.
So, if you said,
"What do you think
of your mother-in-law, Adam?"
And I was on stage and I went,
"She's a delight.
Megan's a delight."
[laughter]
We're not hearing any laugh.
We're hearing laughs now
because we know how absurd.
You are free-forming it,
and you are responsible
to the 300 people
who put down 30 bucks
to come see you
and want to have a laugh.
- It's way easier to be
against something,
but defining what you're for-
- Defining what you're for.
What do you want?
What's the point of this?
And I say that because I-
back to comedy-
- To feel good.
- I can't do college campuses
because the first
couple sentences,
they're going, "Ooh."
Already I've got this image
of me, that I said,
"Listen, I've been doing comedy
for 32 years,
mostly about men and women."
That's essentially what
I've been doing,
and I still have to explain,
"This is a man's perspective."
- I do this joke about...
the way people need to justify
their cell phone.
I need to have it with me
because people are so important.
- Right.
- You know, I said, "Well,
they don't seem very important,
the way you scroll through them
like a gay French king,
you know, just-"
[laughter and applause]
Well...
- That's very offensive
to the gay French kings.
- Well, yeah.
I did this line recently
in front of an audience,
and you could-
comedy's where you can kind
of feel, like, an opinion,
and they thought,
"What do you mean, gay?
What are you talking about, gay?
"What are you saying, gay?
What are you doing?
What do you mean?"
You know?
And I thought,
"Are you kidding me?
I mean, we can't even-"
- [laughs]
- I can imagine a time-
and this is a serious thing.
I can imagine a time
where people say,
"Well, that's offensive
to suggest
"that a gay person moves their
hands in a flourishing motion,
and you now need to apologi-"
I mean, there's a creepy
PC thing out there
that really bothers me.
- Kevin Hart has stepped down
from hosting
this year's Oscars.
- I swear, man, our world
is becoming beyond crazy.
My team calls me,
"Oh, my God, Kevin,
the world is upset about tweets
you did years ago."
- You have the right
to remain silent.
Children: Anything you say
will be used against you.
Your posts on Facebook,
Twitter, and social media
will be saved to shame you.
You can't be funny.
You cannot think differently.
You can't challenge us.
We reserve the right
to be offended by everything.
You have the right
to remain silent.
- It cannot help
but be true that
if this is allowed to continue,
that it is going to work
its way
into the entire apparatus
of government,
journalism,
maybe most seriously,
into the tech sector,
which has become
the governance apparatus
for the new public square.
YouTube and Google,
Facebook and Twitter
dictate whose voices
can be heard,
and if those entities
start trying
to engineer the conversation
to adhere to the rules laid out
with these phony
Trojan horse terms,
disaster will be the result.
- Facebook is a place
where more than
a billion people worldwide
come to share
their thoughts and feelings.
Sometimes they post content
that's upsetting
or insensitive,
and some of those things
can make people feel unsafe,
like bullying, hate speech,
or violence.
That's why we have
global community standards
to decide what
and who should be removed.
- I can't say nothing,
nothing I
Shut up, shut up,
don't want to open my mouth
[ can't say nothing,
nothing &
Shut up, shut up,
don't want to open my mouth
- Can you define hate speech?
- Senator, I think that this is
a really hard question,
and I think it's one
of the reasons
why we struggle with it.
- I'm worried about
the psychological categories
around speech.
You used language of safety
and protection earlier.
We see this happening
on college campuses
all across the country.
It's dangerous.
40% of Americans
under age 35 tell pollsters
they think the First Amendment
is dangerous
because you might
use your freedom
to say something that hurts
somebody else's feelings.
- We have a problem,
in that our public dialogue
is passing
through private servers
where no protections exist.
In other words, if you are not
able to access the Internet
in the same way
as someone else
because the content
of what you are saying
has been deemed unacceptable,
then that shapes
the conversation
that we are having
with each other.
- PragerU had a billion views
last year.
This impact has
apparently disturbed
some of the folks at YouTube,
which is owned by Google.
Believe it or not, over 100
Prager University videos
are on the restricted list,
meaning that, in effect,
they are lumped with violence
and pornography
as unwatchable by children,
libraries, and schools.
So, for example, Churchill,
the man who saved
the free world-
Oh, my God,
everybody understands
why that'll be
on the restricted list.
The Iran nuclear deal.
Are you kidding?
That's the modern
"Debbie Does Dallas.
It shows you how convoluted
their moral compass is
that this would disturb them.
- Among those that are
censored include a video
on the Ten Commandments.
The restrictions
are purportedly
for blocking things like
pornography,
but apparently,
in YouTube's world,
talking about
the Ten Commandments
is comparable
and should be blocked.
- I believe
the Ten Commandments video,
for instance,
contains references to murder
and, I believe, potentially,
Nazism or World War I,
something along those lines,
but they're not censored.
They're available to everybody
who's using normal YouTube.
They are not available
to the small subset
who have chosen
to activate restricted mode.
- So I was thinking I have
a solution that will,
I think, appeal to Google.
I will re-release it
as the nine commandments.
That should solve the problem
of including murder
in my discussion
of the Ten Commandments.
- I always say when you see
someone attacking a subject
by attacking a personality
rather than debating the idea,
that's often a sign
of a smear campaign.
- I'm very much
into classical music.
I periodically conduct,
and I've been-
it's been a passion of mine
since I was a teenager.
If 1 sell out
the Disney Concert Hall,
it'll be the first time
that a regional orchestra
has ever sold out
the Disney Concert Hall.
Every penny is going
to the orchestra.
I am not getting a nickel
for doing this.
There are players in
the orchestra who won't come,
who urge their other players
not to go.
"We're not gonna play
for a conservative."
Welcome to
The Dennis Prager Show."
My guest is
Professor Andrew Apter,
professor of history
and anthropology at UCLA,
also a violinist and a member
of the Santa Monica
Symphony Orchestra,
which I am conducting
next Wednesday night
at Walt Disney Hall
in Los Angeles.
He and a couple of other
members of the orchestra
have asked people
not to attend
and fellow members
not to play for me
'cause I'm a hateful bigot.
When you write in your first
open letter I have here,
"Please urge your friends
not to attend the concert,
and then you're telling
my audience
that you in no way have worked
to stop the concert.
Protesting outside
doesn't stop the concert.
Telling people not to go to
the concert stops the concert.
- No, you could still play
with an empty hall
if you want to.
- Okay, well, all right.
- And we know there's plenty
of people who are gonna go,
so that's really
not the issue.
- [It is the issue.
It's really mind-blowing.
They're not going to attend the
concert of their own orchestra
to raise funds
for their orchestra.
It could be a beautiful story,
music transcends political
and social differences,
but they call us haters.
That's the irony.
That's really the irony.
- No, we're not.
When I was growing up,
and I lived in a tiny
little room with my sisters
and the exterminator would come
and take care of the roaches,
when I was growing up, I didn't
get handed a packet that said,
"Here's your excuse in life.
You don't have to do anything.
It's 'cause you're a victim,"
okay?
I learned that I had
to work hard.
I had to stay in school,
and I had to study.
I don't need to learn
about white privilege.
White privilege is not
serving anybody.
This whole idea of the fact-
teaching little kids
that their skin color
makes them less fortunate
is not helping black kids
get ahead.
There seems to be
an ideological war happening,
and the left has
built their brand
off of the idea
that I am a victim.
- The same people
who are covering everything
with bubble wrap
are also telling these people,
"You have a target on your back
because you're female.
"You have a target on your back
because you're black or Hispanic
or whatever you are,"
and thus, making all the people
they're trying to protect
miserable
because of the target
they falsely placed
on everyone's back.
- If you're a victim surrounded
by predators,
by evil predators, man,
you're frozen.
I mean, if you think
of an animal
in a situation like that,
the animal's frozen in terror.
One idea is that, well,
you protect people
by protecting them.
The other is you embolden them
by encouraging them,
and that's a whole
different thing,
and it's the right thing,
right?
Because you can't
protect people.
Life's a fatal disease, right?
That's the old joke.
It's a sexually transmissible
disease that's 100% fatal.
You're not gonna protect people
from that,
and so the best you can do
is to make them strong.
- [on TV] Evel Knievel
is not hesitating.
Here we go.
[dramatic music]
- I rode a bike everywhere,
never with a helmet.
The thing I found interesting
about not wearing a helmet
and crashing all the time-
Because I rode BMX bikes.
I was jumping
and doing wheelies.
I never hit my head once,
but because I didn't
have protection,
it was all elbows and knees
and rolling,
and I actually learned
how to fall.
- The goal is not to put
yourself in danger,
but the goal is to get more
of a sense both of who you are
and of what the world
can look like.
- I say never deny the pain.
Just don't let the pain
have the last word.
- I would rather my kids
have spina bifida
than think of themselves
as victims.
I can't think of anything
more debilitating
than thinking yourself
a victim.
- I do an hour on happiness
every week on my radio show,
and I learned something from
listeners that startled me,
and that is I am convinced
that a certain percentage
of unhappy people
are addicted to being unhappy.
- Absolutely.
- I never knew that.
I thought everyone
wants to be happy.
- Well, think about how
empowering it is
to say your problems
are not because of you,
you know what I mean?
You can't get a date, but it
has nothing to do with you.
The system's against you.
- The system is stacked
against you,
and there isn't a bloody thing
you can do about it,
so why bother trying?
Of all the things to tell
anyone ever about anything,
that's got to be bottom
of the list
unless you really
don't like them.
- Here's what our job is
as parents, as educators,
as politicians,
as cops and lifeguards.
Our job is to convince
younger people
they're not victims.
Our job is to say to a kid who
is confined to a wheelchair,
"Don't worry.
You're just gonna outwork
everybody else.
You're gonna out-hustle
everybody else,
and you will see that this thing
is not gonna hold you back
because you have the heart
of a tiger."
What we're doing how is
we're taking able-bodied kids
and convincing them they need
to use the handicap ramp.
- I went to
Clark Atlanta University,
which is a black college
in Atlanta,
and I really wanted to have
just open and free dialogue
with as many of the students
as possible.
I got a great motto
on my radio show-
"I prefer clarity
to agreement."
We may not agree,
but at least it's important
that we be clear
where we differ.
The general belief
in American history
has been free speech
includes all speech,
including hate speech.
Do you think that
should be changed?
- That's hard. That's hard
to say because you're really
telling a person that they
can't say what they think.
- Right.
- Right.
- It's hard to say,
but words are powerful,
so people know what
they're saying
will invoke some type
of emotion.
Some type of feeling.
- Right. Should they be
allowed to say it?
That's all I'm asking.
I'm talking a legal question,
not a moral question.
- I can't legally say
that a person
shouldn't be allowed
to speak their mind.
- According to polls,
50% of Americans your age
thinks that there shouldn't be
free speech for hate speech.
You don't agree with that?
- I do not agree with that.
I think if you take away
hate speech, you're hiding it.
- Right. That's worse.
- So it become worse.
- Mm-hmm.
That's an interesting point.
Let me ask you this,
"cause it's generally said...
that a lot of
African-Americans think
that this country is
essentially racist.
Do you agree with-
do you think this country's
essentially racist?
- I wouldn't say the average
white is naturally a racist.
I say it's been embedded
with on-
which this nation
has been built on.
So, if you think
of generation to generation,
think of your ancestors
and my ancestors,
the different, you know,
grounds which we come from,
you know, ever since
my ancestors
were brought here to America,
they were slaves.
Your ancestors were
slave owners.
So fast-forward generations,
then that privilege,
the white privilege
and that oppression
that has been,
you know, given within
my families, it's still there.
So I wouldn't say
it's intentional racism,
but it's more so
systematic racism,
a racism that has been
developed through generations.
- Okay, just to correct
the record,
a vast number of whites
in America,
their ancestors
were not slave owners.
A, they were either Northerners
or they came here later.
I mean, you know, my ancestors
in 1863 were in Poland,
and they were not doing
very well.
They were Jewish, so...
- Got ya, got ya.
- But anyway,
just for the record.
Your interactions
with non-blacks,
are they largely positive or
negative on a day-to-day basis?
- The interactions
you will have day-to-day,
they won't be racist,
but, you know,
when there's opportunities,
you know,
you may hot be
the first thought.
You may not be the first one
to be called.
There's a lot of things
that go into why...
things, you know,
are the way they are.
- At some point down the road-
I don't know when-
but at some point, we as blacks
are going to realize
the degree to which we identify
our aspiration
in victimization...
the degree to which
we rely on it...
not just as an excuse
but as a self-definition.
"Well, I don't know
what I want to do with my life,
but I think there's
some racism out there."
Well, there very likely
is some racism out there.
So what?
Until black America
gets to the "so what" place,
we're gonna fall farther
and farther behind.
You don't sit still in life,
I've discovered.
You go up, or you go down.
- But the thing is,
it's another thing
to actually be in the shoes
of those who are
being oppressed.
- I don't think anyone
in America's oppressed.
You do, obviously,
and that's a very big divide.
- After hundreds of years
of slavery-
- After hundreds of years
of slavery.
- You don't think we've
been oppressed?
- No, no, no, you didn't say
"have been."
You said "are."
- You think blacks
were once oppressed?
- Oh, of course.
It's a given.
- So how do you not think
that it's generational?
How do you not think that we're
still trying to consciously,
socially still recover
from that?
- It takes a long time.
- After telling us
that we're not humans-
- Okay, so the oppression
is not happening from outside.
It's a residue of the inside.
- Of course, of course,
because of what's happened
on the outside.
But the thing is, it's still
being placed outside.
- So no matter how whites act,
no matter how kind they
might be, it's irrelevant
because you're still oppressed
because of slavery
from the 19th century.
- You just answered
your own question.
- You may not be physically
getting beat, but mentally-
- You answered
your own question.
- All right. So, right, well-
- You answered your own
question.
- How many generations
would it take
for that to end?
- That's a trick question.
- No, no, it's not a trick.
Maybe there's no answer.
Maybe we don't know the answer.
- Exactly. Exactly.
- Okay, fine. It certainly
wasn't meant
as a trick question.
I can't argue with what any
given individual feels inside.
- Naturally, 'cause you
don't walk in our shoes.
- Right, but you're not
walking in white shoes,
but you're ascribing
to whites-
- Exactly,
'cause we're the oppressed.
So I don't have to walk
in your shoes to tell myself
that I've been oppressed
by you.
- In America,
you were brutalized.
From birth on,
you were whipped, lashed.
Your children was taken
from you and sold away.
Your wives were used
at the will of the overseer.
I mean,
it just was dehumanizing
in every conceivable way,
and for centuries.
So you got a beef.
How long are you gonna
ride that beef?
How long do you think
it's gonna take?
'Cause the only person
who can break that bond is you.
Inside yourself, say, "Well,
just because white people
were once racist does not mean
I'm gonna sell out my life...
I'm gonna ask less of myself
and claim that I'm being held
back by victimization."
And that's what is so
startling to me-
the way that you see now
of inventing,
reinventing, as I say,
the oppression in your mind,
the same oppression that is
fading out of the world.
As it fades, you cling
and reinvent it, rebuild it,
and so you now become the
racist overseer of yourself.
[dramatic music]
- Whether it's victimization,
cultural appropriation,
social justice,
or even trigger warnings
and safe spaces,
it's all about
identity politics,
which is the exact opposite
of common sense.
- This country was founded on
we don't give a hoot
where you're from.
I know that there were
racists in the past.
I'm not talking about Americans
as flawed individuals.
I'm talking about the values
of the society
were e pluribus unum,
from many, one,
and now the other identities
are all that matter.
It's astonishing how dividing
of people this is,
and that's called wonderful.
That's called progressive.
- Not belonging to a group,
to me, is my privilege.
Not having to walk in lockstep
with this group
or that group
or conform to whatever
whoever the leaders
of that group are espousing,
that is my real privilege,
to just be an individual.
- The idea of the divine
individual, that is the West.
If we subsume that
under group identity,
then we will perish painfully,
and God only knows what'll go
along with us,
maybe everything.
I mean, look what happened
in the 20th century
when people put
group identity first.
I mean, how much
bloody evidence do you need?
The Communists did it
for good reasons,
and the Nazis did it
for bad reasons.
Tens of millions of people
died horribly as a consequence.
- Is the individual sacrosanct,
or is the group?
Do we have freedom to speak
what we want to say?
- 58% of Americans
hold opinions
that they don't feel
comfortable sharing publicly.
- Oh.
- Wow.
- Man, oh, man. So I don't
believe that this new tyranny,
this new politically
correct tyranny
is changing anybody's behavior.
- No.
- And it sure as hell isn't
bringing anybody together,
but it's creating an atmosphere
of fear and repression,
and you know what happens
when that happens.
It's gonna bust.
- The University of California
at Berkeley
is said to be bracing-
that's the quote-
bracing for
conservative speaker
Ben Shapiro's
upcoming appearance
at their campus.
- Many are comparing
to hurricane preparations.
- The barriers are up.
Officers are out in force.
- Taking extraordinary
security measures
costing around $600,000.
A large swathe of the campus
will be closed off,
including the plaza where
the Free Speech Movement began
in the 1960s.
- If Ben Shapiro is not
allowed to speak,
the First Amendment will have
lost a tremendous battle today,
a very important event
in the history of our rights.
- The Constitution
is absolutely clear that,
particularly
as a public institution,
we cannot and will not
discriminate against speakers
because of their perspectives
or because of the beliefs
of those who wish to host it.
- There's no free speech
for fascists.
Their words are violent,
and for every action, there is
an equal and opposite reaction.
- Administration rolls out
the red carpet for fascists
to come and spout their
white supremacy and xenophobia.
- And to the dismay of the
People's Republic of Berkeley,
you get to see him live.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Ben Shapiro!
[cheers and applause]
- He came. He gave his talk,
very conservative.
I thought it was a great talk.
I didn't agree with a single
thing he said, but who cares?
It was a great,
interesting talk.
- The reason that I am here
is because fascism
does not own this university
because there are students who
do want to hear differing views,
who don't want to be told that
they can only hear one view,
who don't believe that
the First Amendment should die
under the jackboots
and Birkenstocks
of a bunch of anarchist,
communist pieces of garbage.
[cheers and applause]
- He gives his talk, and he
says afterwards when he's done,
"Everybody who has questions,
line up at the microphones on
either side of the auditorium."
- Well, we're gonna do a Q&A
after this,
and I love taking questions,
my favorite thing,
and I have a rule, which is
if you disagree with me,
you raise your hand, and you
go to the front of the line
because discussion
makes the country better.
- Half the hands go. "Good,
come to the front of the line."
I'm like, "Ah, my man."
Guy gets it.
That's what university's
supposed to be all about.
- And finally,
America is the greatest country
in human history.
You are not a victim.
If you are a victim
of something,
you need to show me
what you are a victim of,
and I will stand beside you,
but do not blame the freest,
most civil society
in the history of Planet Earth
for your failures...
because that's on you.
[applause]
Now, was that so rough?
I mean, did we need $600,000 of
security to hear all of that?
- [ Think we underestimate
the heroism
of our own cause as Americans.
We are trying to do something
that nobody told us is
almost impossible.
If you look at human history,
we've got every kind
of human being
ever born in one country,
and we mostly get along.
Nobody points that out.
Where it gets hard...
takes real work.
- I still don't understand
what's going on.
Hopefully you can explain it.
Are you testifying
in front of Congress?
- I am.
- Why are you testifying?
What have you done?
[dynamic music]
- Thank you.
It's an honor to be asked
to speak in front of you all.
First, just a quick piece
of business.
Do we get to keep these pads?
[light laughter]
We're talking a lot
about the kids,
and I think they're
just that, kids.
They grew up dipped in Purell,
playing soccer games
where they never kept score,
and watching
"Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!"
Studies have shown
that if you take people
and you put them
in a zero-gravity environment,
like astronauts,
they lose muscle mass.
They lose bone density.
We're taking these kids-
in the name of protection,
we're putting them
in a zero-gravity environment,
and they're losing muscle mass
and bone density.
They need to live in a world
that has gravity.
- From helicopter parenting
through safe spaces
in colleges,
if that's what
you've been exposed to
and therefore you haven't
experienced any physical risk,
any emotional risk,
any intellectual risk,
of course you are fragile.
How could you be anything but?
- Children are the future,
but we are the present,
and we're the adults.
Could we just
bring back order,
and could the faculty
and administration
on these campuses
act like adults who are
in charge of these kids
who need some gravity
in their life?
Thank you.
- Thank you all for your
eloquent testimony.
We appreciate that,
and, frankly,
I think Congress broke
some new ground today,
first reference ever
to "Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!"
In a congressional hearing.
[laughter]
So there was talk earlier
about a speech code.
Seems to me the speech code's
the one that's right behind me,
right?
Isn't that the speech code
in America,
the First Amendment itself?
Speech code and common sense,
as Mr. Carolla's talked about.
- This is about individualism
and fighting
for your own capacity
to think and create a society
that you want to live in,
not one that's just thrust
upon you.
The best thing you can do
is sometimes realize
that you have to pick
a moment to fight.
- According to the settlement,
the $123,000 will go to pay
the legal fees for
the U-Dub College Republicans.
- We have reached
a settlement deal with them.
We've gotten everything
we wanted,
plus our lawyer's fees
paid for,
and the school can't charge us
security fees anymore.
This is a massive victory
for free speech on campus,
and I think it's going
to prove to be that way
for not just this campus
but other campuses.
- The University
of California Berkeley
paid conservative groups
$70,000
to settle
a free-speech lawsuit.
- This is important not just
for conservative students
but for all students,
and one of the things
that our clients try to do
is bring important speakers
to campus
that they don't usually get
to hear from on campus,
and even liberal students
benefit from that.
- I prefer clarity
to agreement.
These are fellow students
of yours,
if you're a student here
at Berkeley,
and they are a left of center.
I am right of center,
obviously,
and my hope is that we can
clarify where we differ.
So, Dave and John,
please come out.
[cheers and applause]
- This journey that we've
been on-
What has struck home with me
is the fact that there's so many
people that are on our side,
that you should be able to share
ideas with other human beings
without fear of being fired
from your job
or kicked off a campus
or shouted down.
- Anybody who comes to speak
to you and you disagree with,
you should have an argument
with them,
but you shouldn't silence them
by saying,
"You can't come because,
you know,
I'm too sensitive
to hear what you have to say."
- I'm wondering,
how do you propose
that we as the future
of America
can begin to actually fight
against these challenges?
- How do we turn the tide,
Dennis?
- So the way out...
is start saying
what you believe.
I know that sounds so simple.
- There are many,
many people out there
who are similarly
feeling silenced.
Find courage and speak.
- I really don't regret
anything that I said
or anything that I did,
because I know that the names
that I've been called
around campus really
aren't true
and that they really don't
define me
and that I can be
and I should be who I am.
And I know that
I did the right thing
in love and respect
and in truth.
- If you truly are not racist,
if you're not a bigot,
if you're not a homophobe
or any of these other
nonsensical buzzwords,
if you're none of those things,
you'll realize the water
isn't so cold
when you jump into the pool.
- All the good intentions
in the world
amount to nothing
without one thing.
It is the single
most important thing
in doing good on Planet Earth-
courage.
You cannot do good if you
are afraid of being attacked,
but the first thing is to
decide, "I will be courageous."
[uplifting music]
- Tonight's concert
featuring Dennis Prager
kicked off a couple
of hours ago,
but it looks like
a planned boycott
of the event has backfired.
I'm told that inside
the concert hall
there's not one empty seat.
It's a total sellout.
[cheers and applause]
- It's hard to deal
with all that love.
[laughter]
It is, actually.
I'm overwhelmed.
Thank you all for coming.
[orchestra playing
classical music]
I've seen the world;
I've been abroad
every single year
since [ was 20.
This uniqueness of America,
the "so what"...
So you're a Turk
and you're a Jew,
and you're a this and you're
a that, it doesn't matter.
Why?
Because we celebrate the human,
not the group.
[uplifting music]
- America was built on ideas,
and I built a living for
myself talking about ideas.
The only way we separate the
good ideas from the bad ideas
is to be free to say
whatever we want about them.
We're not all going to agree,
but that's what makes us
individuals,
and we can't lose that,
because this car is
too much fun to drive.
- America's not perfect.
Liberty's not easy.
It's not always comfortable,
but liberty is the flame
that lights the path
of human progress,
and we find our way
by raising our voices
in debate and dissent.
For ideas, for disagreement,
for being who you want to be,
America is the true
safe space.
[orchestra playing]
[Dennis Quaid and The Sharks'
"Out of the Box"]
I don't care if have
to climb a mountain
Cross a desert or an ocean
I am open to a different
point of view
Thinking out of the box
It don't matter if you're
suffering a broken heart
Don't just sit around
Watching your life
fall apart
Think out of the box
Your life is not your own
God owns your very bones,
and we all turn to dust
Close your eyes
and look inside
Wake up to the wonderful
feeling of being alive
And with love in our hearts,
joy in our souls
Life's way too short
So let's rock and roll
To the farthest star
Down the deepest,
darkest hole
- I feel the same way
about this as I feel about...
terrorism, which is...
Huh, something just-
Oh, there's a bee up there,
just pooped on me,
or whatever that thing-
- You have bee poop on you?
- I swear to God, I just did.
- I've never been pooped on
by a bee.
- Yeah, well,
maybe it pollinated me.
- Oh, my goodness.
- You're good.
- You got the bee?
- That was great.
- That's nice.
- But you realize
you cannot say,
"No animal was killed
in the making of this film."
[upbeat music]
I'll tell you what
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I will tell you what,
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all:
Say what? I
[glass clatters]
- You need to get out.
Help me get this reporter
out of here!
I need some muscle over here!
- Keep doing it!
[shouting indistinctly]
[cheers and applause]
- You know, this is all
very personal to me
"cause I experienced tyranny
at a very young age.
Israel sent me
into the Soviet Union
when I was 21 years old
"cause I knew Russian
and Hebrew,
and I was sent in to smuggle
out the names of Jews
that I would find
in the Soviet Union
and to smuggle in
religious items and so on.
And I really experienced
what most people in the West
have never, ever experienced:
life under a totalitarian
regime."
[grand music]
[somber music]
In order to keep myself sane,
I would make myself laugh.
So, in my Moscow hotel,
which I knew was bugged-
And how did I know?
It's very simple.
They didn't allow any
Soviet citizen
to stay in the same hotel
as a Westerner.
So I would sing
from the Psalms.
It says,
"They have false gods."
They have ears that don't
hear, eyes that don't see,
but people still
bow down to them.
[singing in Hebrew]
- I think somewhere a cantor
just killed himself.
- A few cantors.
I think one is understating it.
- Everyone says, "Why are you
friends with Dennis Prager?
You have nothing in common."
[laughter]
As if, if our moms' first names
were both Connie,
we'd be simpatico
on every topic.
He comes from the East.
I come from the West.
He comes from religion.
I come from atheist/pagan.
He comes from college
and knowledge.
I come from tomfoolery
and sports,
but yet we both share
a little something
called common sense and values,
and the common sense
and values-
I think this may be the chance
for this country.
Common sense and values
should trump everything.
It should trump LGBT.
It should trump Chicano.
It should trump black.
It should trump Trump.
That's all we should be
focused on,
is common sense and values.
[applause]
This is the place I'd always
kind of dreamt of
when I was a kid.
The houses I grew up in
did not have garages,
and I always wanted cars and
go-karts and mini bikes and-
Well, I wanted
a basketball hoop.
I wanted a dog. I wanted dinner.
I wanted a whole bunch of stuff.
[smooth music]
I found out very early
what could happen to somebody
if you got a free house,
a couple of food tickets,
and just a stipend
from the government,
that it was debilitating.
My mom was never forced to go
out and take care of business,
and I said to her once, sort of
from the mouth of babes,
"Why don't you just get a job?
"You get a job,
we'll have a car.
"We could have a nice car
instead of a junker.
We could get some furniture.
And she said, "If I get a job,
I'll lose my welfare,
meaning, "Use your head, boy.
And I thought at that point-
I realized, not for me.
- I'm a little embarrassed,
because here's a guy
listening to my show
for years,
and he's the most downloaded
podcast in the world,
and I didn't know who he was?
- Adam Carolla and his
partner, Julianne Hough.
[funky music]
[cheers and applause]
- My name's Jimmy,
and his name's Adam.
- The king is parched
and grows weary.
Jester, bring forth
a chalice of ale.
[cheers and applause]
Scamper away.
I don't want to live in a world
where Dennis Prager
knows who I am.
The Dennis I enjoy is,
he's just home.
He's reading the Torah,
and he's smoking a cigar.
I don't want a Dennis Prager
who goes,
'Hey, Ace Man,
"Man Show,'
'Crank Yankers,' love it."
- If somebody were able to pick
the two most
opposite upbringings
in the United States
of America,
they would take my upbringing
and his upbringing.
I remember playing stickball
in Brooklyn, where I grew up.
So some kid would say something,
you know, unbelievably stupid,
and we'd all tell him,
"Will you shut up?"
And he'd go,
"Hey, it's a free country, man.
It's freedom of speech here."
And it basically shut us up.
He's right.
What's happening now
in the United States,
you are not to be heard
on a college campus
or at your place of work.
This is brand-new.
This is one of the few things
one could say
we have no precedent for
in the United States.
- The real question is how long
before they come for your job
and for my job-
I mean, for anyone
who speaks for a living?
- They want to close us down.
No, in all seriousness,
they do want to close us down.
- Don't you have a billion
views on PragerU?
- We do, we had a billion
views last year,
but the same thing's
gonna happen to you.
Look, you're the most
downloaded podcast,
to my knowledge,
in the world, yeah.
- Yeah, I got a family.
I got employees.
- We're not an enemy
to goodness.
We're not an enemy
to good things.
We're an enemy of the dogmatic.
- Dennis and I were gonna
get together
and do an event at CSUN.
That's Cal State Northridge
out here.
A little backstory-
my mother graduated CSUN
with a degree
in Chicano studies,
so that's all you need to know
about my mom and possibly CSUN.
- Never has a thesis
been so confirmed so rapidly.
We were going to do an event,
you and I.
- And we've done events there
before.
- And we've done before.
And the subject was,
essentially,
what is happening
at our universities
in terms of intellectual
openness, et cetera, et cetera?
They had fully approved
you and me being there.
They then canceled it
because of the topic.
It doesn't bother me for me.
It bothers me for this
beloved country of mine.
It bothers me for the young
people who are being deprived
of anything
that could open their minds.
- So I have a vision of us
as people, as human beings
that is interested not in what
is different among us
but what is the same, okay?
So I believe,
even though I'm not like you,
in the sense
of my superficial appearance,
that I can sit down and talk
to you and understand-
understand your predicament,
that I can listen to you.
If that's not true,
if you deny that,
then what is the reason
that you ask to be heard?
Yes, thank you.
That I disagree with.
That I disagree with.
- No, no, no.
- I disagree. I disagree.
- It's not a debate.
- I am sick looking at you.
I am disgusted watching Alex
argue with you.
You are not listening!
You are disgusting.
And now I want your job
to be taken from you.
- People who have a great,
sterling reputation at Yale,
"You know, you're old enough
to decide
what Halloween costume
you should use,"
and for that, it almost causes
a riot at Yale,
and that's Yale.
- And I know last year
on Halloween,
you went as Kevin Hart,
and that caused-
You don't know who
Kevin Hart is.
- Well, I do vaguely,
but the point is, it's cultural
appropriation no matter what.
- That is correct.
- We're on the way
to the airport,
which is where I do much
of my life, the airport.
You know, I go to all sorts
of campuses,
from Berkeley to Columbia
and everything in between.
So, you know, my hope is,
it's Wyoming.
It's a pretty
conservative state.
All will be peaceful
and tranquil.
- It all began when students
invited a special guest
to speak about socialism.
- Yeah, that's right, Aaron.
We were on campus tonight
as hundreds lined up
to see Dennis Prager speak
about his views,
but before he even arrived
to campus,
other students
who did not agree
tried to stop his appearance.
- We're essentially here
because we don't agree
with Mr. Prager's views
at all.
He has said
many hurtful things
and hateful rhetoric towards
underrepresented communities,
of which Wyoming has many
beautiful, diverse communities.
- In the case of the University
of Wyoming, it was precious.
"Dennis Prager, noted-"
which was a compliment-
"Noted bigot,
racist, homophobe, sexist,
Islamophobe, and anti-Semite."
[laughter]
I swear to God.
So word got out to the person
who clearly knew me well,
"It's probably worth
dropping anti-Semite.
"The guy is a well-known Jew,
written books on Judaism,
et cetera."
So they dropped that
without a word of apology,
needless to say.
They just dropped it,
but everything else remained.
- It's ironic that, you know,
"The Los Angeles Times"
would call you bigoted,
because what you do
is the opposite of bigoted,
which is,
"I don't care who's listening.
I will simply speak the truth
as I know it to you,"
versus a version that is meant
for this color
and that group
and the LGBT community.
Dennis is the most decent,
moral person I've ever met,
and thus, he does not have
this animus in his heart,
so he's able to be free
to piss everyone off.
[laughter and applause]
- The only reason
for the attack
is that I'm known
as a conservative.
This is a brainwash
that they undergo.
If you are conservative,
then you are not wrong.
You are evil.
They have to think we're evil.
Otherwise they have
to debate us.
All: Racist go home!
Racist go home!
- The chaos centered around
controversial conservative
Ben Shapiro.
- Values matter significantly
more than melanin level.
Racial diversity doesn't mean
anything.
Decency means something.
Diversity is not a bad thing,
but it isn't a good thing
unless the people who are
racially diverse
are also decent.
- Concerns over safety
and threats
prompted University President
William Covino
to cancel
the preapproved speech,
but Shapiro continued with his
scheduled appearance,
drawing dozens of protesters
who were desperate
to stop him.
- Look at me. I mean, like,
do I look like
a physical threat to anybody?
Last time I was in a fight,
I was 14 years old.
I was two years younger
than everybody else
in my high-school class,
and I was getting
my ass kicked.
- When I went to college,
suddenly there were some folks
who didn't think at all
like me.
I've heard some
college campuses
where they don't want
to have a guest speaker
who is too conservative.
All:
Charles Murray, go away!
Racist, sexist, anti-gay!
- That's the free speech
of the left.
- This is not an argument.
This is a religion.
- When Professor Stanger was
escorting Murray out,
she was left with
a concussion and whiplash.
- Shouldn't we be able to agree
on protecting free speech
no matter who is speaking?
- There will be resistance,
and it will not be peaceful.
Resistance to violent
hate speech
is not another act of hate.
It is an act of love.
- Whoever told you you only had
to hear what didn't upset you?
[suspenseful music]
[indistinct shouting]
All:
Shut it down! Shut it down!
Shut it down! Shut it down!
Shut it down!
Shut it down!
[explosion, screaming]
- A protest has turned violent
at the University
of California, Berkeley.
- Campus locked down as more
than 1,000 people rallied
against the appearance
of a controversial editor
from Breitbart,
Milo Yiannopoulos.
- All I care about is free
speech and free expression.
I want people to be able to be,
do, and say anything.
- It's disgusting.
It's one thing to protest
someone's right
to come here and speak,
but it's another thing
to create
this much amount
of destruction and violence
and hurt and harm
other people.
- We need our voices heard,
and if this is the way
that we think it must be done,
then I suppose
that's what we got to do.
- It sends the message
that under no means
will we allow any of this to
go on anywhere near Berkeley.
- Has the birthplace
of free speech
now become its graveyard?
[dramatic music]
- If there's a fundamental
American right,
it's to say what's
on your mind.
The idea that if
you offend me,
you should not speak...
- To create a unsafe space
here for all-
- I did not-
- Be quiet!
- Is so bizarre.
- What a lot of people
don't get
and Americans get to take
for granted
is that free speech is a very
weird thing in human history.
Mostly, our instincts are,
we don't like dissenters.
We prefer to behead them,
set them on fire,
send them out of our village.
- Free speech is unique
to the United States.
Lots of countries pretend
to have it,
but they'll cut your head off
for blasphemy in Saudi Arabia.
In Thailand they'll throw you
in a prison
if you make fun of the king.
In Russia and China,
you go to jail
if you say anything nice
about gay people.
In Germany,
you can't praise Nazis.
Sounds good, right?
But maybe not.
Doesn't stop people from
promoting Nazism in secret.
It just means you can't
debate them in public.
France convicted
Brigitte Bardot five times
for criticizing the practice
of animal sacrifice
at a Muslim festival.
[sheep baas]
The U.K. convicted a comic
of a hate crime
for teaching a pug
to do a Nazi salute.
Just over the border
in Canada,
a Christian preacher
was arrested for, wait for it
preaching in public.
Pretty much everywhere else,
cops can come to your house
and arrest you for a rant
or a complaint
or even for making a joke.
The only reason
they can't do it here
is because we have
the First Amendment.
- The only reason why you have
a First Amendment
is to protect
the rights of minorities,
the rights of the oddball,
the rights of the underdog.
Free speech battles on campus
in the 1960s,
starting in Berkeley
and the Free Speech Movement
in 1964,
were primarily about
whether or not
you could have politics
on campus,
and that was the start
of the Free Speech Movement.
From 1964 on, it, you know,
took over campuses
all over the country,
and [ think it was
so successful
that there was probably
a perfect week in 1977
when free speech
was protected on campus
at a level it never had been
before and would be again,
probably right around the time
"Star Wars came out.
The phase that we're in
right now
is the most distressing one.
Sometime around 2013, 2014,
the students themselves
started demanding
new speech codes
or that people not be
invited to speak,
or if they were invited,
that they be disinvited.
- Both Condoleezza Rice
and Christine Lagarde
had to withdraw themselves
from giving speeches
at Rutgers
and Smith Universities.
- That was when you first
started hearing
about trigger warnings,
things like
microaggression training.
- We're not sure if we even
believe in freedom anymore.
Most universities today don't
require classes in civics,
courses to know
the fundamentals
of the Constitution.
Instead, we have classes
on the things that divide us-
identity politics.
If we don't rediscover,
reclaim an understanding
of the foundations
of our society, we're in
jeopardy of losing it.
[light music]
- Whew, you sure got to be
careful what you say nowadays
so people don't get offended.
Wow, I wonder who that
little scrap of paper is.
I'm the First Amendment,
yes, the very First Amendment
And I'm found
in the Bill of Rights
Well, it's a long, long time
since my ink has dried
And a long, long time
since my authors died
But I'm just as important
today as I was back then
At least I hope I am
'Cause I defend
all your rights
- Gee, First Amendment,
you certainly sound important.
- Call me Firsty.
I like to think I'm important,
but I'm not so sure anymore.
- How come people don't know
more about you, Firsty?
- People tend to take me
for granted,
but if it wasn't for me,
Americans wouldn't be able
to say what they want to say.
- Oh, no.
- Oh, yeah.
Sometimes when people
speak their mind,
other people get offended.
I hope people remember why
I'm important, or I may die.
- Die?
- Yeah, die...
along with the rest
of your freedoms.
I'm the First Amendment,
yes, the very First Amendment
Without me,
you'd be living in China
In the Bill of Rights,
I'm the leadoff hit
Read me in a museum or when
you're sitting on the sh-
[tires screeching]
[gunfire]
Both: Firsty!
- [groans]
- Why?
- [groaning]
both: No!
- Liberty is a value,
not a natural inclination.
- Yeah, I love when I listen to
Dennis's show and somebody says,
"Well, everyone yearns
to be free."
- No.
- And he says, "No."
- They yearn to be
taken care of.
The greater yearning
of the human species
is to be taken care of,
not to be free.
The French Revolution
and the American Revolution
are at war with one another.
Their motto was "Liberty,
equality, fraternity."
That was not in our motto.
We have "Liberty, in God
we trust, e pluribus unum...
life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness."
They're different values,
and we have raised
a generation
to believe that being
taken care of
is more important
than liberty.
49% of kids on campuses
in America today,
according to Pew Research,
do not believe in free speech
for hate speech.
You know how moronic that is?
The issue of free speech
doesn't apply to love speech.
Nobody ever threatened
love speech.
It's precisely the speech
you hate or you find hateful
that needs to be protected,
but this is unknown.
This is why we're fighting
for the soul of America.
[applause]
[somber music]
So how many of you think people
should be free in America
or on a university campus
to say whatever they want?
One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight.
How many of you think
there should be restrictions
on what you can say
on a campus?
One, two, three, four, five,
six, so it's pretty much tied.
So no country in the world
has had free speech
as much as this country.
In Europe, you can be arrested
if you say things
that the government thinks
is hateful.
Give me an example-
those of you who said
that you think
there should be restrictions,
give me an example of what
should not be allowed
to be said.
- I would say, like, if you
have Nazi beliefs or values
and you raise those
because that can
make people uncomfortable.
- Okay, that's very important.
So I'm a Jew, and Nazis
killed six million Jews.
That's one out of every
three Jews on Earth
was annihilated
in World War |I by the Nazis.
So I have a real hatred
to Nazis,
but I believe they should
be allowed
to march freely in America,
because if we say to the Nazi
today, "You can't speak,"
then we'll say
to a non-Nazi tomorrow,
"You can't speak either."
And we hope that
if everybody speaks,
the good ideas will win.
- Free speech is one
of the greatest innovations
in human history.
It's how we figured out how
to have peaceful,
pluralistic societies
that are endlessly creative
and free.
Free speech done correctly
is one of the most
exciting experiences
you can have in your life.
Throw anything out there.
We'll question anything.
Let's figure stuff out.
It's absolutely thrilling.
And I also think
that it's incredibly fragile.
If I thought that free speech
would just be something
that could defend itself,
I wouldn't be as worried
about it,
but humans don't really
like freedom of speech.
They like to say they like it.
They definitely like their own
freedom of speech.
They don't necessarily like
your freedom of speech
that much.
- So we had an attorney
write CSUN a letter.
You folks, you have a charter
which says
that there's free speech
on your campus.
So they had no choice.
- So we're coming back, and
we're saying whatever we want.
- Exactly.
So here is exhibit A
of a man who was raised
with white privilege.
- Oh, yes.
I got into a semi-heated debate
with a black fella
who was on public radio,
and he went on to explain
to me,
I didn't know what I was
talking about
because of my white privilege.
And I said, "Well, let's
examine my white privilege,
may we?"
I did not go to college.
I worked cleaning carpets.
Later on,
I worked on construction sites,
not as an apprentice or
a carpenter, but as a laborer-
digging ditches,
mostly cleaning up garbage.
Whatever work donkeys
were qualified to do,
that's what I did.
At a certain point, when I felt
like my white privilege
wasn't kicking in at all...
[laughter]
Mom was on food stamps
and welfare,
Dad was eking out a living
and had no extra money or time
for anybody else,
I said, "You know what
would be a good job for me?
Fireman. I'm strong.
I'm eager for the fray.
I have no qualms
about my personal safety,
and [ think I would make
a good fireman.
Plus, I love chili.
I love playing foosball,
and as far as I could tell,
when they're not putting
out fires,
they're eating chili
and playing foosball,
So I just walked over there,
and I said,
I'm gonna put in an
application to be a fireman,"
and they said, "Fine.
I filled it out.
I handed it to the guy,
and the guy said,
Don't hold your breath."
And I said,
"What does that mean?
And he said, "We're not gonna
be getting to you
for some years.
And when you're 19
and you're destitute
and your stepmom"s
trying to extricate you
from the garage
you're living in
and you have no job
or no real income,
the notion of "We'll call you
in six or seven years"
is not a buoy you cling to.
And sure enough,
I moved out of the house.
I was about 25, 26, five,
six years
into my carpentering career.
My dad showed up
to my apartment one day,
and he had a letter,
and he said,
It's from the I A.
Fire Department."
And sure enough, there was
a date to take the written test
the following weekend.
And I said, "I don't even
want to be a fireman anymore,
but because I've waited
six years to be a fireman,
I'm going down
to Hollywood High
on 10:00 a.m. on Saturday."
And I stood in line.
There was a young lady,
very diminutive lady,
a small, slightly built lady
behind me,
could not tell her nationality.
Could have been black, Latino,
or mixed
or something like that.
Everyone around me-
I kept saying,
"When did you put in
your application?
When did you put it in?"
I turned around to her,
and I said,
"When did you put in
your application?"
And she said, "Tuesday.
[laughter]
- A safe space is a place
you can go to
where it's safe
to do whatever you want.
You can just be yourself,
and no one's gonna say
or do anything
that makes you uncomfortable.
- There's this myth that when
you're in a safe space,
all you do
is sing "Kumbaya" or something.
The reality is,
it's when you feel safe
that you have some of the most
important
transformative discussions,
at least I do
when I'm in my safe spaces.
- Once you go beyond college,
you're gonna have
uncomfortable experiences,
but to kind of force yourself
through pain
and difficult experiences
is totally unnecessary.
- See,
I never went to college.
I was a builder,
but I always thought college
was this place for ideas.
And now it's turned
into a place
for some ideas
but not other ideas,
and that seems to fly in
the face of ideas in general.
- For a generation that demands
safe spaces,
that equates ideas they don't
like to actual physical battery
and requires trigger warnings
for class assignments
that might be upsetting,
there's a name-snowflakes.
- We're creating
this environment
where liberals and leftists
and progressives on campuses
think that they need
to get government authority
or university authority
to protect their ears
from stuff that they don't like
or stuff that's
actually offensive
or that is racist or that is
sexist or that is horrible,
and I just think that
that's a very dangerous view.
- I'm saying this not
for conservatives.
I'm saying this for liberals.
They have been bubble-wrapped
in academia for 40 years.
- When you try to create
a safe space
in which it's difficult
to be unsettled, unnerved,
you reinforce walls,
which makes it difficult for you
to cultivate the capacity
to learn from other people,
especially people
you disagree with.
- Can I just say,
it feels really nice
to live in a bubble
for a little while.
You feel safe.
You feel protected.
You feel like everyone agrees
with you and you're right.
- I If you do not like me &
you are not allowed
in my safe space I
all:
My safe space
- I Look and you will see
There's a very select
crowd in your safe space I
all:
My safe space
- I People that support me
I Mixed in with more people
that support me -
I And say nice things,
rainbows all around me
I There is no shame
in my safe space
- I My safe space &
- No university should
ever create
a safe space for an idea.
If you want to feel good,
get a massage.
- I want every student on
campus to be physically safe.
I don't want anybody
getting beat up.
I don't want anybody getting
sexually assaulted or molested.
I don't want anybody singled
out for, you know, threats,
but if you mean emotionally
safe or intellectually safe,
I don't know why you're
in college,
because the whole point is that
you're going to leave soon,
and I want you to be offended
every single day.
All:
? Social Justice Warriors
Get triggered 2
both:
Bias Response Team, go!
All:
I Social Justice Warriors I'
- We've gotten
to a point where,
if you say you're tolerant
all the time,
if you talk about diversity
all the time
and tolerance all the time,
people somehow think that means
you are tolerant
and you care about diversity,
and in almost every case
almost without fail,
today that's actually
the reverse.
So right now it's very in
for everyone on the left
to talk about tolerance and
diversity and all these things,
and what is the type
of diversity that they hate?
Well, the type of diversity
that they hate
is diversity of thought.
- Dave Rubin has
every credential
of a bona fide liberal.
I mean, Dave Rubin is gay.
Dave Rubin is married to a man.
Dave Rubin is a lifelong
Democrat.
- When I talk about liberalism,
what is liberalism,
and how is it different
than leftism?
Liberalism really is
about the individual,
and it's about live
and let live.
It's not just this
amorphous idea of tolerance,
which is what leftism is.
That's a collectivist view
of the world,
where we should be grouping
all of these people
and we should be taking
from some and giving to others,
and it is a shake
that will eat its own tail.
- You are a liberal.
- I am.
- We obviously have
different politics,
but it doesn't matter.
On freedom of speech
we are completely united.
Do you feel right now,
ideologically,
your biggest enemy
are conservatives or the left?
- Oh, there's no question.
A, my biggest enemy is
the hard left.
B, the hard left poses
a far greater danger
to the American future
than the hard right.
I'm not worried about a few
dozen people with swastikas...
- Thank you.
- Who want to replace
the Jews
'cause they're our past.
They have no resonance
on university campuses today.
- Right.
- But the hard, hard left
anti-Semitism,
anti-Christianity,
intolerance for speech,
these are our leaders.
When I used to teach
150 students
in my first year
of criminal law,
I'd look around, and I'd say,
"Future president,
"future chief justice,
'future editorial director
of 'The New York Times,'
future managing partner
of Goldman Sachs."
They're our future.
- What's happened
to this place?
Ah!!
[suspenseful music]
[gasps]
Ah!
This was the home of ruthless
media disrupter
Samuel F. B. Morse.
Who's his successor,
that fellow?
- Fellow? That word
is cisgender normative, okay?
You're worse than Hitler!
- Too late for flattery.
I'm not giving this school
a dime.
- I've seen,
over the past 30 years,
how the university has changed
and not for the better.
Now they don't tolerate
the other side's viewpoint,
and there are no conservatives
that are speaking out.
If you're conservative
at this university, good luck.
First of all,
I don't know how-
you're not gonna get hired.
I don't know what department's
gonna hire you
at what college
it's gonna hire you at.
You're not gonna get promoted.
There's no way that
you're gonna be accepted
by your fellow faculty,
and I'm telling you right now,
they're gonna figure out
a way to get rid of you.
I mean, they will
figure out some means
by whatever hook and crook.
They'll never say it's because
of your political orientation,
but they're gonna
get rid of you.
This is also something of an
irony, but it's also really-
I think it's kind of dangerous
that there's only
one worldview now
that's allowable
in the university,
and if you don't have that,
you better be quiet.
- You must think like we think
and do what we do,
and if you don't,
you're verboten.
You're unwelcome.
You can't even speak here.
You can't teach here.
You can't attend here.
How in the world can we
possibly argue
that this is academic freedom?
It is ideological fascism.
You must be one of us,
or you're unwelcome.
- Is it hard to be
a conservative at Berkeley?
Yeah, sometimes.
- My name's Isabella Chow.
I'm a third-year student
at UC Berkeley
studying business and music.
In spring 2018, I was elected
to student senate at Berkeley.
There's a bill proposed
to our student senate
that I felt like
I couldn't fully vote for
because of my Christian beliefs
and because I represented
the Christian community
on campus.
And so I abstained from voting
on that bill that night,
and I gave a short statement
of why I abstained,
and the backlash was swifter
and bigger
than what I would have
ever imagined.
- Senator Chow!
all: Resign now!
- Senator Chow!
all: Resign now!
- There were hundreds
of students that came in
and protested the fact
that I was still a senator
and demanded my resignation.
- Tonight is not about
dismissing Christianity
as universally toxic,
but about validating
the experience of those
at the hands of bigots who have
cowardly hid behind religion
to justify their actions.
- Sitting there was
really hard.
It was just difficult
to hear the accusations
of people calling me a bigot,
calling me a hater.
I hoped that there would be
dialogue.
I hoped that there would be
mutual respect
and understanding.
- When trans people are
under attack, what do we do?
All:
Stand up, fight back!
- At this point,
I've been disaffiliated
with every organization
that I had a working
relationship with
and voted out of clubs
that I've been in,
like, even since
freshman year,
but I wasn't elected to not
listen to my conscience,
and I wasn't elected
to not represent
a religious voice on campus,
even if that voice
is a minority here at Berkeley.
- I've been assaulted
on my campus.
- You were assaulted?
- The night after the election,
yes.
- You were physically assaulted?
- Physically assaulted.
I was walking back
from a meeting that I had,
and the assumption was that
someone followed me
out of a building,
knew where I was
'cause I had that meeting
every single week at that time,
and someone came up to me
and said, you know,
"F you, racist B-word,
you support a racist party,"
and just threw me
down the hill.
- Was anyone prosecuted for it?
- Mm-hmm.
- This is what they've tricked
everybody into thinking.
You know, years ago it was
you were a racist
and you were a bigot.
Then it became Nazis.
Now it's white supremacists,
or sometimes it's Nazis,
and they'll always ramp
this thing up.
- I've been called
a white supremacist.
I've been called a Nazi.
You know, what's crazy
about calling someone a Nazi-
that term is so malleable these
days-
is you can reduce them
to a, you know, inhuman form,
and you can justify punching
them or attacking them, even.
- You're not videoing me.
- All right, well,
we're in public.
So I'm just gonna video it
for my own safety
'cause you seem really erratic.
- You are [bleep]
encouraging violence.
- No, I'm not.
[objects clatter]
- Get your [bleep] phone out
of my face, mother[bleep].
Get your phone out
of my [bleep] face.
[bleep] you.
[bleep] you.
- Oh, [bleep].
- "The Dennis Prager Show
returns in five seconds.
[dramatic music]
- I want to ask you something
"cause you're so
on top of the situation
on campuses.
Right now if you had to grade
freedom of speech on campuses
versus two years ago,
would you say
it's getting worse,
it's the same, awful, or what?
- So what's happening is that
there's a student population
that has been silenced,
that has been ostracized for
their beliefs and their views.
Make no mistake, it's not just
the free speech laws
and the free speech zones,
but it's the culture.
This is what's so important.
It's what is culturally allowed
to be said
and not allowed to be said.
- I grew up during
the McCarthy period
when it was the extreme right
at Brooklyn College
which told me I had no right
to express my views,
and it was the liberals
that were demanding free speech
and the conservatives
that were trying to deny it.
Today it's flipped.
- My name is Chevy Swanson.
I'm the president
of the College Republicans
here at the University
of Washington.
We wanted to invite
Joey Gibson
from Patriot Prayer
to come do a freedom rally.
We expected about,
maybe 100 people at most
in the middle
of out central area on campus,
Red Square-ironically named.
Protesters started making
posts on social media,
saying they were gonna
come protest,
and the school ramped up
security on us,
telling us that because
we invited a speaker
that made the protesters mad
that we had to pay every cent
of security
caused by the protesters.
At first, that was $17,000,
and that's a bill we got a week
before the event-
an impossible bill to pay.
- We were forced to spend
$10,000 in security.
- The day after I submitted
my application,
they changed the rule
to now where if your security
costs more than $1,000,
you must make up
the difference.
- So they interrupt
conservatives,
and then conservatives
have to foot the bill?
- The College Republicans
are actually
under investigation right now-
you know, causing
all these riots
because of the speakers
we bring in.
- You're causing the riots?
- Yeah, so...
- Not the rioters?
- Ann Coulter's visit
to UC Berkeley
isn't for another month,
but student organizers
of the event
say they are nervous.
- Do I support what happened
at the Milo Yiannopoulos event?
Yes, I do, and what
we're saying this time is
we need to come out again, and we need
to come out in bigger numbers.
- Okay, let me ask you
a question here.
Let's just say
that Rachel Maddow
was scheduled to speak at Cal.
And let's say that people
on the far right
were really angry about that.
They did not want her to speak,
and they came out,
and they protested,
and they were violent,
and they kept Rachel Maddow
from speaking.
How would you feel then?
- I'm trying to picture
that actually happening.
- Campus police Captain
Alex Yow
says police simply
could not guarantee
that Coulter's originally
planned speech would be safe.
- We're hiding in the airport
in a baseball cap.
[chuckles]
That is exactly where we are.
They are fascists.
They don't want another point
of view.
I mean, I've been doing
these college speeches
for more than a decade.
- On the Berkeley campus,
College Republicans are
fighting
to give Coulter a platform
this week.
They filed a lawsuit Monday
trying to force the university
to ease restrictions
they say are only placed
on conservative speakers.
- I think it's important
to call that what it is,
which is essentially just
shredding the Constitution,
or in a way that we see
happen a lot
at Young America's Foundation
when we're working with
students on their campuses,
is this is the classic argument
that leftists will use
in order to shut down
conservative speech.
- Security is the new
"Shut up,
because by the time you factor
in all the security costs,
you could stage "Hello Dolly
Meets Godzilla on Ice"
for the same cost
as bringing Charles Murray in
to give a 20-minute speech
to a few students.
- I don't even-
I'm perplexed, even,
that people could even say,
"Oh, it's not an issue."
It's, like, one of the biggest
issues in America today,
that the place that is
supposed to be
a place of ideas,
the university,
is the most closed place
in the United States.
It's very important for people
to understand
that this is not just
affecting conservatives.
Liberals are being shut down.
[dramatic music]
- I considered myself
a leftist.
I was a teaching assistant
for Communication Studies 101.
I wanted my students
to comprehend
how grammar could actually be
a big issue in our society.
To demonstrate this point,
I brought in a clip
from TV Ontario.
So this is the province's
public broadcaster.
And in the particular clip
I showed,
it was Professor
of Transgender Studies
Nicholas Matte,
and he was talking
to Professor Jordan Peterson
from the University of Toronto.
- And your attempts to regulate
my language use and-
- I don't care about
your language use.
I care about the safety of
the people who are being harmed.
- I know. People who make
your kinds of arguments
are always concerned
with other people's safety.
- I want to have really
deep discussions
about all sorts of issues,
and I don't think anything
should be off-limits.
And that is today
what makes you an evil person.
When I showed the clip in my
class, I did not take a stance.
I was neutral.
I treated Peterson's argument
just as valid
as Matte's argument,
but that was the problem.
It was a problem
that I was neutral.
I was just genuinely
very confused,
because to me,
the university is a place
where you can
question anything.
- Dr. Jordan Peterson refuses
to be pigeonholed.
His new self-help book,
12 Rules for Life,
is already a best seller.
Hundreds of thousands
subscribe
to his online lectures.
His speeches regularly
attract protests.
- I'm not arguing
about your rights.
- And his new speaking tour
is selling out.
- I think he's dangerous
because of the sorts of people
that he enables.
- It's quite the place
you've got here.
So tell me about this one.
- It's a really nicely
built car.
- Mm-hmm.
Hardly looks like
it's ever been driven.
- It's been very well taken
care of, unlike its owner.
- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah, I've been put away wet.
So are they gonna pass a law
in Canada outlawing pronouns?
- Oh, it's already passed.
If you're an advocate
of free speech,
which you are if you're
an advocate of freedom,
then you still might say,
"Okay, well, there are limits.
Some of them are illegal.
I can't incite violence.
I can't incite someone
to a crime,"
you know,
and that's already illegal,
so there are limits
of that sort.
This is different.
This is the law insisting
that you say something.
"You use my language,"
and my response was,
"There isn't a hope in hell
that I will ever use
your language."
- Once you control the language,
you control the outcome.
- Yeah, well, that's why
I wouldn't say those words.
It's because
that's exactly right.
As soon as I allow you
to define the territory
in which we're going to engage,
then you get to win.
- There's a reason
that every time
one of these professors or TAs,
whether it's Lindsay Shepherd
in Canada
or Bret Weinstein
in Washington,
why are they all lefties
who then say one thing
that upsets the left,
and then they're purged?
It will come for you.
I mean, if there is someone
that's watching this right now
that is a hard-core progressive
that's going,
"Man, I hate Prager and Rubin,
and this is all nonsense,"
guess what.
If you have any spark
of individualism in you,
if you have anything about you
that's interesting or different,
they will come
to destroy that, too.
[dramatic music]
- You know, most people
don't get to see
the thing that they love,
a system that has the potential
to do great good in the world,
be destroyed from within.
[line trilling]
- Dean's office.
- It's Stacy Brown.
Is Steve around?
- Oh, he just walked
in the door.
Hang on.
- Thanks.
- Yeah.
- Stop telling people of color
they're [bleep] useless.
You're useless.
Get the [bleep]-
all:
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
Bret Weinstein has got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
Bret Weinstein has got to go!
- I think we did not see,
effectively,
a coup in the institution
coming,
and we didn't feel
vulnerable to it
because we were both
very popular among students
and we had the equivalent
of tenure.
- Weinstein, who identifies
as politically left,
had announced he was
boycotting a decades-old event
created by students of color
at the school.
- Day of Absence was a
tradition on Evergreen's campus
from very nearly the founding
of the college.
Day of Absence is named after
a play by Douglas Turner Ward,
a black playwright,
and the premise of the play
is that in a fictional
Southern town
the black population
decides not to show up one day
in order to make the point
to the white population
about the important role
that they are playing.
Last year the committee that
organizes the Day of Absence
announced in a faculty
meeting-
a faculty meeting in which
there was no opportunity
to ask any questions-
they announced that
white people were being asked
to leave the campus
for the day.
And it was so strange
to hear that announced,
that I assumed
I had misunderstood
what had been said,
and then the administration
of the college made it clear
that they were strongly
encouraging white people
not to come to school
on that day
in an effort to
Center people of color."
I found this offensive.
This was not, as
it was being portrayed,
a simple flip of the script
where instead of people
of color,
it was white people this time.
This was people organizing
this protest
telling others not to show up
to a public college
on a particular day
because of the color
of their skin,
which is anathema
to me as a liberal,
so I said so.
There was a backlash
over email.
My email went to the staff
and faculty email list.
There were students who worked
on campus
who were on that list,
which I was aware of,
and I just simply said,
"This is unacceptable,
and you can expect me
to be on campus on that day."
Tuesday, May 23rd of 2017,
I went to work.
I biked in as I always did.
I began teaching
my morning class,
and a student who I knew
pretty well from a past program
called me over a bit concerned
and said,
"Do you know that there
are people outside the door
chanting for you to be fired?"
And I said,
"No, that's pretty odd."
What shocked me was that
they were not at all
interested in that discussion.
If somebody who was the object
of a protest
that we were participating in
wanted to talk to us about
the nature of that protest,
I would have been right there.
So how is it that
I was being protested
by people who
weren't interested
in even engaging me
on the question
and showing me
that I might be wrong?
It would be weeks before I
would understand why that was.
All: These racist teachers
got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
These racist teachers
got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
These racist teachers
got to go!
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
These racist teachers
got to go!
- Protesters then engaged
the president of the college
and got him to agree
to a meeting.
I decided that I should be
at that meeting.
If they were calling
for my firing,
I wanted to be there
to answer the charges.
I found a seat and sat down.
Within a couple of minutes,
there was an announcement
by protesters,
who were clearly in complete
charge of this meeting,
saying that the food and water
that was available,
publicly supplied,
were for people of color,
and that white people should not
avail themselves
of those things.
That was the tenor
of the meeting.
[cheers and applause]
- So / was here,
and I get this text from Bret,
two of them, actually.
The first one says,
They say I may not be
allowed to leave."
The second one,
I'm not sure what to do."
And then silence.
I heard from one dean
before I knew anything
about what had happened,
and that dean's concern
was that Bret not talk
to the press.
That was the concern
from the college,
that if any of the press
came calling,
he should send them
to college PR.
- At the end of the meeting,
I was allowed to leave,
and I left the building
with a number of my students,
and I was flanked
by a number of other people
who wanted to talk to me
for various reasons,
including one young woman
who I think in some ways
had not gotten the message that
talking to me was not allowed.
The next day the protesters
made a point
of bringing her to a rally
that they had organized
on campus
and having her read
a statement
that they had
prepared publicly,
and it's heart-wrenching
for me.
She read this statement,
and she butchered it.
Reading out loud maybe
in front of a group
was not in her skill set.
- Based on false,
racially charged alleged-
allegations.
- They effectively
humiliated her
in order to demonstrate that
they had recaptured her
in some way.
- Whereas the college
administration specific-
[mumbling]
Sorry.
- There are a lot of moments
that are
particularly telling
from the protest,
but I must say, that is among
the most chilling to me.
- It's our students
that are stopping people.
- Oh, our students
that are stopping people.
Why aren't we stopping them
from stopping people?
- Because the president
has told Stacy to stand down.
- I biked this direction,
which to this point is
my normal commute.
I saw people that I recognized
from the protest
the day before.
They saw me,
and they appeared to start
doing something
with their phones,
and I kept biking,
and then I realized,
"That just doesn't feel right,"
and I took the next entrance
into campus,
and I went to the police
station, and I said,
"Here's what I think
I experienced,
but I must be imagining it."
And she said, "I don't think
you're imagining it.
"I think they're looking
for you, and what's more...
"I can't protect you.
"You're not safe on campus,
and you're not safe anywhere
in town on your bicycle."
I think it's pretty clear
what happened at Evergreen
is an extreme case,
and I've heard people
dismiss it on that basis,
that it was just a very
liberal campus
that went farther off
the deep end than any other,
and I think that's really
a mistake.
In some ways, Evergreen
is a preview of what's coming.
The fact that this
is happening
across so many campuses
means that it is going
to spread
into every quadrant
of society,
and things are going
to get worse elsewhere.
So Evergreen is describing
a future
that is rapidly approaching.
[explosion, siren wailing]
- These ideas have sort of
contaminated the campuses,
but how are they getting
off the campus
and into the mainstream?
- Well, they're partly
doing that
because the mainstream
will be run
by the people who are
on campuses,
but there's a more
conspiratorial element
to it than that.
It's like, it's very important
to remember
that the most politically
correct disciplines
are producing activists.
That's their goal,
and so they have a stated goal
of infiltrating organizations
and altering them in the
politically correct direction.
- Once we've created
an expectation,
that it's a nice thing
to do to censor people
in an enlightened way,
there's no reason to believe
that they're not gonna
construct a world
that looks like that,
and that is not a good world
for dissent.
That's not a good world
for oddballs.
It certainly isn't
a good world for comedians.
- Bill Belichick,
the most confident coach
of all time, right?
Most coaches are like,
"I want raw athletes,
raw talent, sheer athleticism."
And Belichick's like, "Yeah,
that's cool. You got any Jews?"
[laughter]
Yeah, Jews, like,
five, six Jews.
No, we got, like, 6'4"
black dudes. No, no, too easy.
A Mexican,
you got a Mexican?"
Give me a place
with no free speech,
and I'll tell you,
unfunny people.
Russian comedy is-there's
a doll, and then you open it,
and then there's a little doll,
and then, wait for it,
you open that little doll,
and there's an even
smaller doll.
This is highbrow
Russian comedy,
is little doll, little doll,
little doll,
little doll, right?
And it's funny to them
every single time it opens.
There's another little doll,
and they can't get enough,
oh, my God.
That's no-free-speech comedy.
- I know what
microaggressions are.
It's the latest liberal attack
at free speech
and a lot of fun
if you do them right.
- The university has
a list of stuff
they don't allow speakers
to say,
you know,
to protect the students.
- From what, ideas?
- Allen is responding
to the show's
unexpected cancellation.
Some say the show was axed
because of its portrayal of
conservative Christian values.
- If it was a bomb,
you could understand,
but the sitcom was ABC's
second-highest-rated comedy
this season.
- Isn't it spooky that
we're having this discussion?
- Yes.
- Yes.
- But we have to have it.
- I understand,
but it's just kind of spooky
that it's even a thing that
you're even thinking about,
that we have to be modulated,
and I'm a little worried
about it,
a little alarmed
about things I cannot say.
I do it anyway because
the thing I've always loved
about this is it's people,
money, and me.
There's no middleman in this.
Essentially, I'm running
the show at that moment.
But it is weird
that I'm thinking a little bit.
- We as comedians,
the whole point
of what we're doing
on stage with our words
is to make a point
about the absurdities of life.
- Right.
- Like, I have a joke about,
you know, being comfortable
with my size, you know,
and I say, "It depends on where
I'm geographically,
"and if I'm in New York,
I'm pleasantly plump.
If I'm in L.A.,
I'm a beached whale."
I say if I'm in the Midwest,
I'm anorexic, and it's awesome.
- Right.
- And then I've had someone
come up to me after a show
and be like,
"You know, I was bulimic
in high school, and-"
- Right.
- I'm like, "Okay, calm down.
"That wasn't about you,
first of all.
It was a joke, and that's
what I'm up here to do."
- How accountable can we be
when you are, in real time,
trying to create humor?
And as I explain to people
all the time...
the sort of foundation of humor
is negative.
So, if you said,
"What do you think
of your mother-in-law, Adam?"
And I was on stage and I went,
"She's a delight.
Megan's a delight."
[laughter]
We're not hearing any laugh.
We're hearing laughs now
because we know how absurd.
You are free-forming it,
and you are responsible
to the 300 people
who put down 30 bucks
to come see you
and want to have a laugh.
- It's way easier to be
against something,
but defining what you're for-
- Defining what you're for.
What do you want?
What's the point of this?
And I say that because I-
back to comedy-
- To feel good.
- I can't do college campuses
because the first
couple sentences,
they're going, "Ooh."
Already I've got this image
of me, that I said,
"Listen, I've been doing comedy
for 32 years,
mostly about men and women."
That's essentially what
I've been doing,
and I still have to explain,
"This is a man's perspective."
- I do this joke about...
the way people need to justify
their cell phone.
I need to have it with me
because people are so important.
- Right.
- You know, I said, "Well,
they don't seem very important,
the way you scroll through them
like a gay French king,
you know, just-"
[laughter and applause]
Well...
- That's very offensive
to the gay French kings.
- Well, yeah.
I did this line recently
in front of an audience,
and you could-
comedy's where you can kind
of feel, like, an opinion,
and they thought,
"What do you mean, gay?
What are you talking about, gay?
"What are you saying, gay?
What are you doing?
What do you mean?"
You know?
And I thought,
"Are you kidding me?
I mean, we can't even-"
- [laughs]
- I can imagine a time-
and this is a serious thing.
I can imagine a time
where people say,
"Well, that's offensive
to suggest
"that a gay person moves their
hands in a flourishing motion,
and you now need to apologi-"
I mean, there's a creepy
PC thing out there
that really bothers me.
- Kevin Hart has stepped down
from hosting
this year's Oscars.
- I swear, man, our world
is becoming beyond crazy.
My team calls me,
"Oh, my God, Kevin,
the world is upset about tweets
you did years ago."
- You have the right
to remain silent.
Children: Anything you say
will be used against you.
Your posts on Facebook,
Twitter, and social media
will be saved to shame you.
You can't be funny.
You cannot think differently.
You can't challenge us.
We reserve the right
to be offended by everything.
You have the right
to remain silent.
- It cannot help
but be true that
if this is allowed to continue,
that it is going to work
its way
into the entire apparatus
of government,
journalism,
maybe most seriously,
into the tech sector,
which has become
the governance apparatus
for the new public square.
YouTube and Google,
Facebook and Twitter
dictate whose voices
can be heard,
and if those entities
start trying
to engineer the conversation
to adhere to the rules laid out
with these phony
Trojan horse terms,
disaster will be the result.
- Facebook is a place
where more than
a billion people worldwide
come to share
their thoughts and feelings.
Sometimes they post content
that's upsetting
or insensitive,
and some of those things
can make people feel unsafe,
like bullying, hate speech,
or violence.
That's why we have
global community standards
to decide what
and who should be removed.
- I can't say nothing,
nothing I
Shut up, shut up,
don't want to open my mouth
[ can't say nothing,
nothing &
Shut up, shut up,
don't want to open my mouth
- Can you define hate speech?
- Senator, I think that this is
a really hard question,
and I think it's one
of the reasons
why we struggle with it.
- I'm worried about
the psychological categories
around speech.
You used language of safety
and protection earlier.
We see this happening
on college campuses
all across the country.
It's dangerous.
40% of Americans
under age 35 tell pollsters
they think the First Amendment
is dangerous
because you might
use your freedom
to say something that hurts
somebody else's feelings.
- We have a problem,
in that our public dialogue
is passing
through private servers
where no protections exist.
In other words, if you are not
able to access the Internet
in the same way
as someone else
because the content
of what you are saying
has been deemed unacceptable,
then that shapes
the conversation
that we are having
with each other.
- PragerU had a billion views
last year.
This impact has
apparently disturbed
some of the folks at YouTube,
which is owned by Google.
Believe it or not, over 100
Prager University videos
are on the restricted list,
meaning that, in effect,
they are lumped with violence
and pornography
as unwatchable by children,
libraries, and schools.
So, for example, Churchill,
the man who saved
the free world-
Oh, my God,
everybody understands
why that'll be
on the restricted list.
The Iran nuclear deal.
Are you kidding?
That's the modern
"Debbie Does Dallas.
It shows you how convoluted
their moral compass is
that this would disturb them.
- Among those that are
censored include a video
on the Ten Commandments.
The restrictions
are purportedly
for blocking things like
pornography,
but apparently,
in YouTube's world,
talking about
the Ten Commandments
is comparable
and should be blocked.
- I believe
the Ten Commandments video,
for instance,
contains references to murder
and, I believe, potentially,
Nazism or World War I,
something along those lines,
but they're not censored.
They're available to everybody
who's using normal YouTube.
They are not available
to the small subset
who have chosen
to activate restricted mode.
- So I was thinking I have
a solution that will,
I think, appeal to Google.
I will re-release it
as the nine commandments.
That should solve the problem
of including murder
in my discussion
of the Ten Commandments.
- I always say when you see
someone attacking a subject
by attacking a personality
rather than debating the idea,
that's often a sign
of a smear campaign.
- I'm very much
into classical music.
I periodically conduct,
and I've been-
it's been a passion of mine
since I was a teenager.
If 1 sell out
the Disney Concert Hall,
it'll be the first time
that a regional orchestra
has ever sold out
the Disney Concert Hall.
Every penny is going
to the orchestra.
I am not getting a nickel
for doing this.
There are players in
the orchestra who won't come,
who urge their other players
not to go.
"We're not gonna play
for a conservative."
Welcome to
The Dennis Prager Show."
My guest is
Professor Andrew Apter,
professor of history
and anthropology at UCLA,
also a violinist and a member
of the Santa Monica
Symphony Orchestra,
which I am conducting
next Wednesday night
at Walt Disney Hall
in Los Angeles.
He and a couple of other
members of the orchestra
have asked people
not to attend
and fellow members
not to play for me
'cause I'm a hateful bigot.
When you write in your first
open letter I have here,
"Please urge your friends
not to attend the concert,
and then you're telling
my audience
that you in no way have worked
to stop the concert.
Protesting outside
doesn't stop the concert.
Telling people not to go to
the concert stops the concert.
- No, you could still play
with an empty hall
if you want to.
- Okay, well, all right.
- And we know there's plenty
of people who are gonna go,
so that's really
not the issue.
- [It is the issue.
It's really mind-blowing.
They're not going to attend the
concert of their own orchestra
to raise funds
for their orchestra.
It could be a beautiful story,
music transcends political
and social differences,
but they call us haters.
That's the irony.
That's really the irony.
- No, we're not.
When I was growing up,
and I lived in a tiny
little room with my sisters
and the exterminator would come
and take care of the roaches,
when I was growing up, I didn't
get handed a packet that said,
"Here's your excuse in life.
You don't have to do anything.
It's 'cause you're a victim,"
okay?
I learned that I had
to work hard.
I had to stay in school,
and I had to study.
I don't need to learn
about white privilege.
White privilege is not
serving anybody.
This whole idea of the fact-
teaching little kids
that their skin color
makes them less fortunate
is not helping black kids
get ahead.
There seems to be
an ideological war happening,
and the left has
built their brand
off of the idea
that I am a victim.
- The same people
who are covering everything
with bubble wrap
are also telling these people,
"You have a target on your back
because you're female.
"You have a target on your back
because you're black or Hispanic
or whatever you are,"
and thus, making all the people
they're trying to protect
miserable
because of the target
they falsely placed
on everyone's back.
- If you're a victim surrounded
by predators,
by evil predators, man,
you're frozen.
I mean, if you think
of an animal
in a situation like that,
the animal's frozen in terror.
One idea is that, well,
you protect people
by protecting them.
The other is you embolden them
by encouraging them,
and that's a whole
different thing,
and it's the right thing,
right?
Because you can't
protect people.
Life's a fatal disease, right?
That's the old joke.
It's a sexually transmissible
disease that's 100% fatal.
You're not gonna protect people
from that,
and so the best you can do
is to make them strong.
- [on TV] Evel Knievel
is not hesitating.
Here we go.
[dramatic music]
- I rode a bike everywhere,
never with a helmet.
The thing I found interesting
about not wearing a helmet
and crashing all the time-
Because I rode BMX bikes.
I was jumping
and doing wheelies.
I never hit my head once,
but because I didn't
have protection,
it was all elbows and knees
and rolling,
and I actually learned
how to fall.
- The goal is not to put
yourself in danger,
but the goal is to get more
of a sense both of who you are
and of what the world
can look like.
- I say never deny the pain.
Just don't let the pain
have the last word.
- I would rather my kids
have spina bifida
than think of themselves
as victims.
I can't think of anything
more debilitating
than thinking yourself
a victim.
- I do an hour on happiness
every week on my radio show,
and I learned something from
listeners that startled me,
and that is I am convinced
that a certain percentage
of unhappy people
are addicted to being unhappy.
- Absolutely.
- I never knew that.
I thought everyone
wants to be happy.
- Well, think about how
empowering it is
to say your problems
are not because of you,
you know what I mean?
You can't get a date, but it
has nothing to do with you.
The system's against you.
- The system is stacked
against you,
and there isn't a bloody thing
you can do about it,
so why bother trying?
Of all the things to tell
anyone ever about anything,
that's got to be bottom
of the list
unless you really
don't like them.
- Here's what our job is
as parents, as educators,
as politicians,
as cops and lifeguards.
Our job is to convince
younger people
they're not victims.
Our job is to say to a kid who
is confined to a wheelchair,
"Don't worry.
You're just gonna outwork
everybody else.
You're gonna out-hustle
everybody else,
and you will see that this thing
is not gonna hold you back
because you have the heart
of a tiger."
What we're doing how is
we're taking able-bodied kids
and convincing them they need
to use the handicap ramp.
- I went to
Clark Atlanta University,
which is a black college
in Atlanta,
and I really wanted to have
just open and free dialogue
with as many of the students
as possible.
I got a great motto
on my radio show-
"I prefer clarity
to agreement."
We may not agree,
but at least it's important
that we be clear
where we differ.
The general belief
in American history
has been free speech
includes all speech,
including hate speech.
Do you think that
should be changed?
- That's hard. That's hard
to say because you're really
telling a person that they
can't say what they think.
- Right.
- Right.
- It's hard to say,
but words are powerful,
so people know what
they're saying
will invoke some type
of emotion.
Some type of feeling.
- Right. Should they be
allowed to say it?
That's all I'm asking.
I'm talking a legal question,
not a moral question.
- I can't legally say
that a person
shouldn't be allowed
to speak their mind.
- According to polls,
50% of Americans your age
thinks that there shouldn't be
free speech for hate speech.
You don't agree with that?
- I do not agree with that.
I think if you take away
hate speech, you're hiding it.
- Right. That's worse.
- So it become worse.
- Mm-hmm.
That's an interesting point.
Let me ask you this,
"cause it's generally said...
that a lot of
African-Americans think
that this country is
essentially racist.
Do you agree with-
do you think this country's
essentially racist?
- I wouldn't say the average
white is naturally a racist.
I say it's been embedded
with on-
which this nation
has been built on.
So, if you think
of generation to generation,
think of your ancestors
and my ancestors,
the different, you know,
grounds which we come from,
you know, ever since
my ancestors
were brought here to America,
they were slaves.
Your ancestors were
slave owners.
So fast-forward generations,
then that privilege,
the white privilege
and that oppression
that has been,
you know, given within
my families, it's still there.
So I wouldn't say
it's intentional racism,
but it's more so
systematic racism,
a racism that has been
developed through generations.
- Okay, just to correct
the record,
a vast number of whites
in America,
their ancestors
were not slave owners.
A, they were either Northerners
or they came here later.
I mean, you know, my ancestors
in 1863 were in Poland,
and they were not doing
very well.
They were Jewish, so...
- Got ya, got ya.
- But anyway,
just for the record.
Your interactions
with non-blacks,
are they largely positive or
negative on a day-to-day basis?
- The interactions
you will have day-to-day,
they won't be racist,
but, you know,
when there's opportunities,
you know,
you may hot be
the first thought.
You may not be the first one
to be called.
There's a lot of things
that go into why...
things, you know,
are the way they are.
- At some point down the road-
I don't know when-
but at some point, we as blacks
are going to realize
the degree to which we identify
our aspiration
in victimization...
the degree to which
we rely on it...
not just as an excuse
but as a self-definition.
"Well, I don't know
what I want to do with my life,
but I think there's
some racism out there."
Well, there very likely
is some racism out there.
So what?
Until black America
gets to the "so what" place,
we're gonna fall farther
and farther behind.
You don't sit still in life,
I've discovered.
You go up, or you go down.
- But the thing is,
it's another thing
to actually be in the shoes
of those who are
being oppressed.
- I don't think anyone
in America's oppressed.
You do, obviously,
and that's a very big divide.
- After hundreds of years
of slavery-
- After hundreds of years
of slavery.
- You don't think we've
been oppressed?
- No, no, no, you didn't say
"have been."
You said "are."
- You think blacks
were once oppressed?
- Oh, of course.
It's a given.
- So how do you not think
that it's generational?
How do you not think that we're
still trying to consciously,
socially still recover
from that?
- It takes a long time.
- After telling us
that we're not humans-
- Okay, so the oppression
is not happening from outside.
It's a residue of the inside.
- Of course, of course,
because of what's happened
on the outside.
But the thing is, it's still
being placed outside.
- So no matter how whites act,
no matter how kind they
might be, it's irrelevant
because you're still oppressed
because of slavery
from the 19th century.
- You just answered
your own question.
- You may not be physically
getting beat, but mentally-
- You answered
your own question.
- All right. So, right, well-
- You answered your own
question.
- How many generations
would it take
for that to end?
- That's a trick question.
- No, no, it's not a trick.
Maybe there's no answer.
Maybe we don't know the answer.
- Exactly. Exactly.
- Okay, fine. It certainly
wasn't meant
as a trick question.
I can't argue with what any
given individual feels inside.
- Naturally, 'cause you
don't walk in our shoes.
- Right, but you're not
walking in white shoes,
but you're ascribing
to whites-
- Exactly,
'cause we're the oppressed.
So I don't have to walk
in your shoes to tell myself
that I've been oppressed
by you.
- In America,
you were brutalized.
From birth on,
you were whipped, lashed.
Your children was taken
from you and sold away.
Your wives were used
at the will of the overseer.
I mean,
it just was dehumanizing
in every conceivable way,
and for centuries.
So you got a beef.
How long are you gonna
ride that beef?
How long do you think
it's gonna take?
'Cause the only person
who can break that bond is you.
Inside yourself, say, "Well,
just because white people
were once racist does not mean
I'm gonna sell out my life...
I'm gonna ask less of myself
and claim that I'm being held
back by victimization."
And that's what is so
startling to me-
the way that you see now
of inventing,
reinventing, as I say,
the oppression in your mind,
the same oppression that is
fading out of the world.
As it fades, you cling
and reinvent it, rebuild it,
and so you now become the
racist overseer of yourself.
[dramatic music]
- Whether it's victimization,
cultural appropriation,
social justice,
or even trigger warnings
and safe spaces,
it's all about
identity politics,
which is the exact opposite
of common sense.
- This country was founded on
we don't give a hoot
where you're from.
I know that there were
racists in the past.
I'm not talking about Americans
as flawed individuals.
I'm talking about the values
of the society
were e pluribus unum,
from many, one,
and now the other identities
are all that matter.
It's astonishing how dividing
of people this is,
and that's called wonderful.
That's called progressive.
- Not belonging to a group,
to me, is my privilege.
Not having to walk in lockstep
with this group
or that group
or conform to whatever
whoever the leaders
of that group are espousing,
that is my real privilege,
to just be an individual.
- The idea of the divine
individual, that is the West.
If we subsume that
under group identity,
then we will perish painfully,
and God only knows what'll go
along with us,
maybe everything.
I mean, look what happened
in the 20th century
when people put
group identity first.
I mean, how much
bloody evidence do you need?
The Communists did it
for good reasons,
and the Nazis did it
for bad reasons.
Tens of millions of people
died horribly as a consequence.
- Is the individual sacrosanct,
or is the group?
Do we have freedom to speak
what we want to say?
- 58% of Americans
hold opinions
that they don't feel
comfortable sharing publicly.
- Oh.
- Wow.
- Man, oh, man. So I don't
believe that this new tyranny,
this new politically
correct tyranny
is changing anybody's behavior.
- No.
- And it sure as hell isn't
bringing anybody together,
but it's creating an atmosphere
of fear and repression,
and you know what happens
when that happens.
It's gonna bust.
- The University of California
at Berkeley
is said to be bracing-
that's the quote-
bracing for
conservative speaker
Ben Shapiro's
upcoming appearance
at their campus.
- Many are comparing
to hurricane preparations.
- The barriers are up.
Officers are out in force.
- Taking extraordinary
security measures
costing around $600,000.
A large swathe of the campus
will be closed off,
including the plaza where
the Free Speech Movement began
in the 1960s.
- If Ben Shapiro is not
allowed to speak,
the First Amendment will have
lost a tremendous battle today,
a very important event
in the history of our rights.
- The Constitution
is absolutely clear that,
particularly
as a public institution,
we cannot and will not
discriminate against speakers
because of their perspectives
or because of the beliefs
of those who wish to host it.
- There's no free speech
for fascists.
Their words are violent,
and for every action, there is
an equal and opposite reaction.
- Administration rolls out
the red carpet for fascists
to come and spout their
white supremacy and xenophobia.
- And to the dismay of the
People's Republic of Berkeley,
you get to see him live.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Ben Shapiro!
[cheers and applause]
- He came. He gave his talk,
very conservative.
I thought it was a great talk.
I didn't agree with a single
thing he said, but who cares?
It was a great,
interesting talk.
- The reason that I am here
is because fascism
does not own this university
because there are students who
do want to hear differing views,
who don't want to be told that
they can only hear one view,
who don't believe that
the First Amendment should die
under the jackboots
and Birkenstocks
of a bunch of anarchist,
communist pieces of garbage.
[cheers and applause]
- He gives his talk, and he
says afterwards when he's done,
"Everybody who has questions,
line up at the microphones on
either side of the auditorium."
- Well, we're gonna do a Q&A
after this,
and I love taking questions,
my favorite thing,
and I have a rule, which is
if you disagree with me,
you raise your hand, and you
go to the front of the line
because discussion
makes the country better.
- Half the hands go. "Good,
come to the front of the line."
I'm like, "Ah, my man."
Guy gets it.
That's what university's
supposed to be all about.
- And finally,
America is the greatest country
in human history.
You are not a victim.
If you are a victim
of something,
you need to show me
what you are a victim of,
and I will stand beside you,
but do not blame the freest,
most civil society
in the history of Planet Earth
for your failures...
because that's on you.
[applause]
Now, was that so rough?
I mean, did we need $600,000 of
security to hear all of that?
- [ Think we underestimate
the heroism
of our own cause as Americans.
We are trying to do something
that nobody told us is
almost impossible.
If you look at human history,
we've got every kind
of human being
ever born in one country,
and we mostly get along.
Nobody points that out.
Where it gets hard...
takes real work.
- I still don't understand
what's going on.
Hopefully you can explain it.
Are you testifying
in front of Congress?
- I am.
- Why are you testifying?
What have you done?
[dynamic music]
- Thank you.
It's an honor to be asked
to speak in front of you all.
First, just a quick piece
of business.
Do we get to keep these pads?
[light laughter]
We're talking a lot
about the kids,
and I think they're
just that, kids.
They grew up dipped in Purell,
playing soccer games
where they never kept score,
and watching
"Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!"
Studies have shown
that if you take people
and you put them
in a zero-gravity environment,
like astronauts,
they lose muscle mass.
They lose bone density.
We're taking these kids-
in the name of protection,
we're putting them
in a zero-gravity environment,
and they're losing muscle mass
and bone density.
They need to live in a world
that has gravity.
- From helicopter parenting
through safe spaces
in colleges,
if that's what
you've been exposed to
and therefore you haven't
experienced any physical risk,
any emotional risk,
any intellectual risk,
of course you are fragile.
How could you be anything but?
- Children are the future,
but we are the present,
and we're the adults.
Could we just
bring back order,
and could the faculty
and administration
on these campuses
act like adults who are
in charge of these kids
who need some gravity
in their life?
Thank you.
- Thank you all for your
eloquent testimony.
We appreciate that,
and, frankly,
I think Congress broke
some new ground today,
first reference ever
to "Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!"
In a congressional hearing.
[laughter]
So there was talk earlier
about a speech code.
Seems to me the speech code's
the one that's right behind me,
right?
Isn't that the speech code
in America,
the First Amendment itself?
Speech code and common sense,
as Mr. Carolla's talked about.
- This is about individualism
and fighting
for your own capacity
to think and create a society
that you want to live in,
not one that's just thrust
upon you.
The best thing you can do
is sometimes realize
that you have to pick
a moment to fight.
- According to the settlement,
the $123,000 will go to pay
the legal fees for
the U-Dub College Republicans.
- We have reached
a settlement deal with them.
We've gotten everything
we wanted,
plus our lawyer's fees
paid for,
and the school can't charge us
security fees anymore.
This is a massive victory
for free speech on campus,
and I think it's going
to prove to be that way
for not just this campus
but other campuses.
- The University
of California Berkeley
paid conservative groups
$70,000
to settle
a free-speech lawsuit.
- This is important not just
for conservative students
but for all students,
and one of the things
that our clients try to do
is bring important speakers
to campus
that they don't usually get
to hear from on campus,
and even liberal students
benefit from that.
- I prefer clarity
to agreement.
These are fellow students
of yours,
if you're a student here
at Berkeley,
and they are a left of center.
I am right of center,
obviously,
and my hope is that we can
clarify where we differ.
So, Dave and John,
please come out.
[cheers and applause]
- This journey that we've
been on-
What has struck home with me
is the fact that there's so many
people that are on our side,
that you should be able to share
ideas with other human beings
without fear of being fired
from your job
or kicked off a campus
or shouted down.
- Anybody who comes to speak
to you and you disagree with,
you should have an argument
with them,
but you shouldn't silence them
by saying,
"You can't come because,
you know,
I'm too sensitive
to hear what you have to say."
- I'm wondering,
how do you propose
that we as the future
of America
can begin to actually fight
against these challenges?
- How do we turn the tide,
Dennis?
- So the way out...
is start saying
what you believe.
I know that sounds so simple.
- There are many,
many people out there
who are similarly
feeling silenced.
Find courage and speak.
- I really don't regret
anything that I said
or anything that I did,
because I know that the names
that I've been called
around campus really
aren't true
and that they really don't
define me
and that I can be
and I should be who I am.
And I know that
I did the right thing
in love and respect
and in truth.
- If you truly are not racist,
if you're not a bigot,
if you're not a homophobe
or any of these other
nonsensical buzzwords,
if you're none of those things,
you'll realize the water
isn't so cold
when you jump into the pool.
- All the good intentions
in the world
amount to nothing
without one thing.
It is the single
most important thing
in doing good on Planet Earth-
courage.
You cannot do good if you
are afraid of being attacked,
but the first thing is to
decide, "I will be courageous."
[uplifting music]
- Tonight's concert
featuring Dennis Prager
kicked off a couple
of hours ago,
but it looks like
a planned boycott
of the event has backfired.
I'm told that inside
the concert hall
there's not one empty seat.
It's a total sellout.
[cheers and applause]
- It's hard to deal
with all that love.
[laughter]
It is, actually.
I'm overwhelmed.
Thank you all for coming.
[orchestra playing
classical music]
I've seen the world;
I've been abroad
every single year
since [ was 20.
This uniqueness of America,
the "so what"...
So you're a Turk
and you're a Jew,
and you're a this and you're
a that, it doesn't matter.
Why?
Because we celebrate the human,
not the group.
[uplifting music]
- America was built on ideas,
and I built a living for
myself talking about ideas.
The only way we separate the
good ideas from the bad ideas
is to be free to say
whatever we want about them.
We're not all going to agree,
but that's what makes us
individuals,
and we can't lose that,
because this car is
too much fun to drive.
- America's not perfect.
Liberty's not easy.
It's not always comfortable,
but liberty is the flame
that lights the path
of human progress,
and we find our way
by raising our voices
in debate and dissent.
For ideas, for disagreement,
for being who you want to be,
America is the true
safe space.
[orchestra playing]
[Dennis Quaid and The Sharks'
"Out of the Box"]
I don't care if have
to climb a mountain
Cross a desert or an ocean
I am open to a different
point of view
Thinking out of the box
It don't matter if you're
suffering a broken heart
Don't just sit around
Watching your life
fall apart
Think out of the box
Your life is not your own
God owns your very bones,
and we all turn to dust
Close your eyes
and look inside
Wake up to the wonderful
feeling of being alive
And with love in our hearts,
joy in our souls
Life's way too short
So let's rock and roll
To the farthest star
Down the deepest,
darkest hole
- I feel the same way
about this as I feel about...
terrorism, which is...
Huh, something just-
Oh, there's a bee up there,
just pooped on me,
or whatever that thing-
- You have bee poop on you?
- I swear to God, I just did.
- I've never been pooped on
by a bee.
- Yeah, well,
maybe it pollinated me.
- Oh, my goodness.
- You're good.
- You got the bee?
- That was great.
- That's nice.
- But you realize
you cannot say,
"No animal was killed
in the making of this film."
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[glass clatters]