Lust for Gold: A Race Against Time (2021) - full transcript

Gotcha.

Couldn't be any happier.

Been waiting 25, 30 years
to get in this.

Now we're gonna get it, finally.
I know we are.

Last week I couldn't
even walk that far.

You know?

Can't keep
a treasure hunter down.

According to Rick Gwynne,

there was a cave of gold.

He was getting ready to start
bringing some stuff out.

When he went back, a miner
had filed a claim on the land



and every time that
Rick went there,

the miner and his buddies were
getting drunk

and they'd start
shooting at him.

So, if he went near the place,
he'd get killed.

After 25 years,
this guy got off the land

and so Rick's trying to
recover it.

And so that's why
he called me.

We'll scan that and
put it on the laptop.

- Well, I...
- Does that sound okay

or do you want to have us scan
a different spot?

- I mean, that's...
- No, you...

- you know where the...
- I'm thinking that's where...

Your machine says that it's...

Well, I'm saying that
when I scanned it last time



I was in that bottom corner
over there.

When I got in the cave,

the amazement that I had
was just unbelievable.

There was some blunderbusses,
there were some paintings,

and there was
a cask of coins,

and then next it a little ways
was a pile of jewels.

This one jewel, it was
on a rug and it was huge.

There's also the skeletons
of the people that

must have put it in there.

With all the DNA things
that they have nowadays,

we can find out whose family

they belong to and
finally set them to rest.

There's a table
across from them

with a... with a skeleton

and the gentleman
also had his arm near a book,

which I believe this book
would have secrets in it

that are just unbelievable.

There's another room and
there's also a skeleton there.

There were some stacks
of bars, they were silver and

they were gold, maybe a foot
and a half off of the ground.

You tell someone that,
you know,

that you seen this stuff
and you've got all this stuff

if they think,
why aren't you a millionaire?

It was just too dangerous

and we had
these terrible rainstorms

that came in and it just
filled in the washes here.

We could not
find another entrance.

Dad likes to
kind of think of himself

as Indiana Jones,

which is kind of cool,
you know,

and it's true because
he's just out there

and finding
all the information out,

reporting it.
His reward is the adventure

and the journey and everything
that comes with that.

I'm following his example.

Y-you need to bring
your stuff out. Okay?

All... all right...

Robert had told Rick

that I was the attorney
on the expedition

in the Superstition and

Rick wanted to ask me
a few quick questions.

Well, I... I... I brought you
a retainer agreement

- if you want to sign it.
- What it... can you tell us

- what it means?
- Well, it just means Ri...

he's retaining me
as his attorney.

That's all.

So, so, if I have to go to
the government,

if I have to, you know,
do anything...

do anything on his behalf.

- Just so...
- At this... at this very moment,

I'm not planning on
going to those guys.

- Okay. All right. Well...
- Right off the bat.

- Yeah, I got you. Okay.
- Yeah.

'Cause they're just too greedy.

Well, I... I, you know, it'd be
coming to me as an attorney,

I have to tell you, you know,
legally, you know,

the correct course

and then it's up to you
whatever you want to do,

but, you know,
be remiss if I didn't, so.

- Uh-huh, remiss, yeah.
- Yeah.

Okay.

Gonna have to put in 10 feet.

Put 10 feet.

I don't see the targets.

I can't get can't get... can't get
below something in the rock.

- I don't know what's happened.
- What happened?

I can't know what's happened.

I mean we used to
have a room

and we used to have
a billion marks

and now we got nothing but...

a rock layer
that's only a foot deep.

All the ground
that we just scanned,

I can't see anything
below two feet.

Really?

You got to
remember that the heat

affects my instrumentation.

And I had... and I wanted

to be done by 10 o'clock
for a reason.

And we're out here almost
at 12 and it's 97 degrees.

And I'm thinking that

the Rover may not be
operating well enough

because of the damn temperature.

Technology
didn't work for us today.

Well, it certainly
showed up on our last scan

exactly where... where everything
should be, it was.

On... according to your...
your screen.

I... I'm thinking you're
just going to have to drill,

drill long
and take your best shots.

Well, you're going to try
some of your drilling,

I hope, at least.

I want to see that dad-burned
drill you was running.

I don't have one.
Bill brought...

brought to what he's got

and you've got what you've got
and I've got nothing.

I'm doing scanning.

Over there I found
where the paintings were.

When I came over here,

I scanned across these rocks
just about here...

was a rectangular golden blob.

- That'll work.
- Okay.

- Anywhere in here. All right?
- Okay, I'll get started.

- Okay?
- Yup.

Is that
your wife's vacuum?

Well, yeah,

but she doesn't know I got it.

It looks to be an inch,

but I know that one
that I had from Harbor Freight

said an inch.

And this is bigger.
So I don't know, huh?

Maybe they have smaller
inches at Harbor Freight.

Yeah, okay, lemme... I...

step aside and I'll do it
right now.

Put your hand right here.

You don't want to
get a hand here

- and then have it twist.
- Gotcha.

- So that's why I'm...
- Gotcha.

Try it.

Trying to find the bigger stuff
clog it up.

Okay, stop.

I pushed little too far,
probably.

Could be stuck, you know.

Stuck in there.
It's stuck in there.

We proved the point that this
will go down at least two feet.

The numbers that we got
through the software

provided by the manufacturer,
don't add up to the reality.

I didn't write the software.

I didn't design the tool.

The equipment's here...
take your best guess.

Don't go home saying,
"I wish I could have tried."

Everybody's just
kind of feeling the anxiety,

hoping that we just,
you know,

make a breakthrough
at some point, you know.

I'm sure... seems... it just seems
to be all a matter of, I mean,

you can feel the ground shaking.
You know, like something hollow.

We're gonna go ahead
and drop the camera

all the way down in there,

take pictures of whatever's...

whatever... whether everything's
down in there, actually.

I always knew it'd still
be here, no matter what.

And now it might be
coming into fruition.

Salvador started
the Victory Club

25 years ago tonight.

He, uh, asked me if I would
take it over for 12 years,

and so I said, "Sure."

I felt like it was
a great honor to do that.

And so, I started passing out
the Treasure Hunter

of the Year Award,
which is given to someone that...

that keeps the lore going
and represents us in a good way.

Now, this year, Salvador and I
are gonna turn it over to, uh,

Bob Schoose and Wayne Tuttle.

- There you go, buddy.
- Thank you, guys.

Yes, ma'am, all right.

For this year, Treasure Hunter's
25th Annual Awards Presentation,

"To a true mountain man
and treasure hunter:

A special thanks
for keeping the legend alive

for many years, hiking in
the Superstition ranges,

searching out the many stories,
lost mines,

and keeping the secrets
of the treasures they've held.

A true legend of the mountains.

You will be remembered
by us all forever and always."

So, it looks like that the, uh,

silver basin filled with coins
and jewels is still there.

He's got all those
orange targets, it's over here,

where the... the table
and all that stuff was,

and you can see
where I think that basin was,

right there,
that little yellow hit?

- Okay.
- Right, and there's, uh,

maybe some other spots
that I might hit,

but we're getting solid targets.

I have lived 51 years
researching this mine.

Lookin' for gold
and such as that for 31 years.

- 35 years since I come here.
- This is like my rookie year.

I personally have found things
in the Superstition Mountains,

yes.

We found three silver bars up...
up in the rafters.

There's a number of people
that have found gold bars

in or around
the Superstition Mountains.

Uh, gold seekers, we call 'em
"true believers."

They're a... they're
a different breed,

and they come in all shapes
and sizes, and, uh,

they... they just...
they... they have this...

It's this drive.

It's like that carrot
out in front of you,

dangling in front of you.

"I know it's out there,
I know I can find it.

I just wanna find it.”

The gold seeker
trained in science

is going to be
more professional,

because that's more
of your scientific process.

You don't just take it
at face value.

You have to prove it.

This is a scan,
and it lets you see

the 3D images
that have been produced.

The dark blue indicates
an area that's been

disturbed by digging.

The blue-grey and the green,
this indicates the terrain

that's been set down
by natural geology.

And then,
this is a corroded target.

The orange is the corrosion
that coats the target,

and this side view shows you
that the target is

below everything else,
which indicates

it's a real target
and not a false alarm.

What I discovered
was the location

of the Latin Heart site.

I discovered how to read
the Latin Heart Map

that was made from a clay tile.

It has 31 caches.

31 Roman numerals.

It's my opinion
that the Roman numerals

represented bars of gold,
so when I scanned

and I saw bar shapes,

I made the conclusion

I would be looking for bars.

I collated all my results,
I made a master map,

I showed where everything was,
I got everything prepped.

I briefed Gary Hanna, head
Tonto National Forest Ranger.

I said, "I'm willing to
hand you all my notes,

all my records, stand back,
and say, 'It was here, '

and watch you guys do it all."

I thought, when I went to Gary
and I gave him minimum

of four years of work,
research, measurable data,

given that I've got
three degrees

and that I know
my field of expertise,

I honestly hoped
I was gonna get,

"Wow! That's great!"

And boy, was I naive.

They threw it away.

Totally opposite reaction what...
I just was totally dumbfounded.

Usually people think
I have the gold,

think I'm nuts,

or I'm gonna get killed.

Those are the three responses
I usually get.

I only had one choice:
To raise my army.

The army of the greedy.

Okay, so I got Bill, James,

David, Nathan, and myself.

Thank you, guys, for joining me.

- Jason, what'd I say?
- Nathan.

Wrong brother, I'm tired.

The trail that we're taking

is the Massacre Trail of 1862.

It completely matches
what Jacob Waltz

said on his deathbed.

This is the treasure site

that's on the Latin Heart Map.

Everything that I've found
at Latin matches it.

I was just surfing
on the internet one day,

and I typed in
"Lost Dutchman Goldmine"

just to see
what the next story was.

Here's Robert Kesselring's
five-part summary

of what he'd been
working on for six years.

He says,
"I'm looking for an attorney

to do some pro bono work for me

to see if we can get
some digging permits,

and get things going on this.

I stopped right there,
and I emailed back, I go,

"I'm your guy,
I am in this 1,000 percent.

Don't have to look any farther."

The other people on the team...

my next-door neighbor,
James Sybesma.

His passion
has always been gold.

How... how treacherous is...
do you think it is?

I told him right away,
I says, "Count me in."

People have been lookin' for
the Lost Dutchman Mine too long

and they haven't found it.

Kess is like, "Nah! There really
is a Lost Dutchman Mine,

and there really was a guy.”

David Smith I grew up with
in Palm Springs,

and David is a rock hound.

Bill was talking about
this guy's story.

He knows exactly what
the Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine

is all about, I mean he...
he carried on,

and carried on, and carried on,
and all I knew was

that I wanted to see
the Superstition Mountains

and hang out for a while.

We're 65 years old, I mean,
we're not far from... behind Kess.

That foundation is...

I think between the two of 'em,
we're pretty well set

with our support staff.

The map says
there's 31 caches of gold,

and totaling over
31,000 gold bars.

If you do the math,
the value today

is $6 billion worth
of gold bars out there.

So, the whole idea here is:

You gotta show
the government proof.

And what's proof?
Well, proof is holding up

that gold bar, dropping it off
on the desk of the...

the forest ranger, and say,
"This is out there."

This is
an Indiana Jones adventure,

I'm telling you!

You're looking at
Superstition Mountain,

a barbaric pile of rock

40 miles long by 20 wide.

The man is Floyd Buckley.

He's going into
this 800-square miles

of sudden and violent death,
because he thinks

it's just another mountain,

and because he's greedy
for its treasure.

Yeah, I said treasure... gold.

$20 million worth
of precious yellow metal

waiting to be found in
America's most elusive mine,

appropriately named
The Lost Dutchman.

You see, this is the true story
of Superstition Mountain,

the biography of a death trap!

My name's Barry Storm.

I was hurled into this story
when I heard that shot.

Up till then,
I was just an ordinary guy

with a reasonable curiosity

about the Lost Dutchman Mine.

When I was 13,
my Aunt Ruth gave me a copy

of Thunder Gods Gold,

written by Barry Storm.

My aunt met Barry Storm,
who's here,

and had him sign it for her.

It was about more
than just looking for gold.

It was about treasure hunting,

and it was the legends
of the Jesuits,

the Peraltas,
and the Lost Dutchman.

This book I read religiously,

most of my life,
right next to the Bible.

Bible, Thunder Gods Gold.

Back and forth, back and forth,
and that's how I got into

the depths of where I am now

about treasure hunting,
and I am totally in love

with the people that
went through that experience.

When I'm... when I'm there,

my heart and my soul
is with them.

I see their impact,
I see where they slept,

I see where they died.

I see the plants that
are native that they grew

that were herbs for food.

I see all
the little secret symbols

that they've put up,
hidden triangles and stuff.

I can... I can see the ghosts
of ancient past walkin' around.

It's like a... a head trip
Disney can't provide, you know?

And so, I went back
to one of the pictures,

and in it was a petroglyph map,
and I looked at it,

and I look at it, that's when
I realized what he knew,

that the Mexicans
used the metric system.

Everybody before me,

for a hundred years kept saying,
"They're Spanish.

They use leagues,
They use varras.

They didn't understand science."

They had the highest developed
mining university

at the time in Mexico City,

and the Germans would take
their graduate students

and send them there
to learn more

and go into the field.

Hi, poochie.

Dad basically had just
given me copies of the books,

and was telling me
about the Peralta Maps,

and all that kind of stuff.

He was seeing
that I had interest.

He just kinda started saying,
you know, "Hey,

if you wanted to go out
and kinda, you know,

get your camping skills
sharpened up,

I can help you, and...

'cause I wanna
take this big trip.”

Yeah, we'll leave it
in the bedroom.

I like it, though.

Yeah, it was your grandpa's,
he liked it a lot.

My parents were divorced
when I was like two years old.

I was like 12 when,
uh, Dad was able

to kinda come back
into my life briefly.

- Yeah, yeah.
- And then, after high school,

I was 19, I left Texas,

and then pretty much didn't have

any real communication

for 20 years.

Probably been about
32 years total of my life

that I didn't have my father.

My intention is to hand off
everything that I've learned.

Give my son Jason

all the training he needs.

"This is my legacy to you.

This is my work,
I hand it to you,

you carry it on.”

I cherish everything
that we get to do from,

you know, this point on.

Just kinda, like,
"All right, well, you know,

if you need somebody to kinda be
there for ya, and you know,

recording and doing whatever."

I said, “I'll do that.”

Everything out here'll bite ya,
poke ya, prick ya,

sting ya, or poison ya.

The Superstitions
can be real dangerous,

especially if you don't know
what you're doin'.

I was out there walkin' around
Yellow Peak, they call it,

and off to my right,
I couldn't believe it,

I saw what I knew
was a skeleton.

There was one of
the fellas there, and, uh,

he had his arm on the backpack,
and then I looked down

the canyon, uh...
down the canyon a little ways,

and there was
another fella layin' there.

They said that they died of
natural causes,

but the one fella
looked like he had a couple

of indentations
in the back of his head.

Somethin' blunt,
and the other fella,

it looked like his back
had been beat in,

and one rib bone was
stickin' out through the front,

and, uh, but his shirt
was not torn,

so no animal reached in there
and pulled those bones

from the back forward.

They were layin' on
this black basalt rock,

and that... in July?

That must've been just
terribly, terribly hot.

We went out there and asked
the Sheriff's Department

if we could help
look for the guys,

and they told us
that we better go

take a special course,
so that they didn't have to

worry about us gettin' lost.

Hundreds of people have died
in the Superstition Mountains.

This is my last expedition
into the Superstitions

to document the things
that I have discovered,

a project that takes a whole lot
more people than one person.

We had the Mexican-American War
in 1846,

and they had been hoarding
their gold and building it up,

and they were gonna secede
from Mexico.

So, I believe

31 families that were
the wealthiest families

in the district
saw the Americans coming,

told their sons
to take the treasure out

to where the hoard was,
and they buried

the family's wealth,
'cause they couldn't get it

to Mexico fast enough.

That's the treasure
that I've located.

I'm pretty certain that,
uh, you know,

we're gonna... we're gonna
find something out there.

This is real.

There's a lot of gold out there.

Howdy, am I far enough off?

- Well...
- You want me to back up?

He's a big horse,
but I think you'll be okay.

I'm all right.

Looks like you've been
working hard, guys.

When you see people
comin' through with packs,

presumably these guys
struck it rich,

and they're working
the Dutchman's Vein.

That's the kind of rumor mill
that keeps churning

all the interest in the gold
and the Superstitions.

Six hours of hiking.

About a mile an hour.

Rover made it.

This is a scanner.

It looks shorter than the...

- Oh, it's...
- It's collapsed.

Collapsed.

I'm acting like I've never
put up a tent before in my life.

Got another
three-and-a-half-mile hike

tomorrow.

Good night,
see you in the morning,

or if something crazy
happens in between,

I will let you know.

A cement bag's
just a-droopin' on down.

Well, that cement's there

it's a-there
for a weight, babe.

Five'll get ya ten,
old Macky's back in town.

Yeah, yeah, oh, the line forms.

Macky's back in town.

So,

today's goal is to, uh,

take you to the notch
of the heart, okay?

And then, we're gonna
climb up the mesa,

and we'll get to the Citadel.

I'm going to break up the teams.

I'll have shown you
where the last place was

I saw a prospect,
and it's under a fire pit.

- Yeah.
- And I'm gonna take Nathan

and I'm gonna teach him
how to do the rover.

Who? Jason.

- Jason.
- There ya go.

Is your bag too heavy,
is it good?

- It's okay.
- Right.

Love you, Dad.

Okay, GPS on.

The day came...'cause I was...

I was gettin' gold fever,
and I went,

"You know what?
Don't quit your day job, James.

You got two kids to raise,

and a hot wife to keep happy.

I think you better
save that for retirement."

Doin' this,

it's right out
of my wildest dreams

- for my retirement.
- Hey, dreams!

Fairy Tales coming true.

It's like chasin' the dragon.

What are you waiting for, Billy?

- Good save.
- Thank you.

Would you like
your cell phone back?

Yeah.

- I got it.
- Okay.

Be careful comin' down.

We're in the Citadel, gentlemen.

You are in the Peralta Map
Latin Heart area.

I found a series of targets,

and I said, "Well, let's dig
a latrine over one of them."

Got done,
and we filled it back in,

and we built a fireplace.

He says that's it.

See it, see where we walked?

- Yeah.
- It's in the right spot.

I think you should scan.

That's my start.

Bush is my last,
right this side.

I'm linked.

There's no hits.

I'm not seein' a prospect.

Now, what I can do is
when I get back to camp,

I can put this on the laptop
and check it,

but I don't have any targets
in there today.

We can start to...
maybe you'll get a...

James, you wanna... you wanna

auger this down a little bit?

There's a rock down there
about little bit bigger

than a soccer ball.

If you go down three feet
to that rock and I scan it,

I should get a hard target.

Point this out.

Efficient operation.

When I say, "Scoop,"
you can start scooping.

Hold on.

Panic is settin' in, guys.

- Time to go.
- All right, he's gotta scan it

- one more time.
- It's time to pull out.

He... what... I don't understand
why he's not gonna scan this

one more time.

You just drop the pole
down in there.

- Two minutes.
- Yeah.

Okay, you guys wanna... you guys
wanna push that envelope,

you can talk to
the main man, but...

- Yeah.
- He's tired and...

- All right.
- It's his time for his,

you know, meds and whatnots.

If this was me, I'd be goin'.

- Yeah.
- "Nobody eats

until we get the gold.

So, tonight is:
Get to bed early, get your rest,

take two vitamins,

say no to sex.

You know, the Olympic thing.

I don't have to at our age.

We're in that...
we're in that club

where all the girls say,
"I don't wanna, and..."

Yeah, I gotta be
reminded of that.

Yeah, you're not in my league.

So, now,

the whole idea of coming here

was to find a target,
and to show that

all of the research
and everything you've done,

is worth it and we find the...
you know, we...

we find a bar
and whatever it is.

That's the number one goal
on this trip

is to find a target.

We just got off to a late...
too late of a start today.

So, we're up at 7:30,
and gettin' dressed,

and goin' and havin' breakfast.

All right,
so it's about 8:00 at night.

Went out to target one,

and it's just, uh,
with the equipment,

seems like it just
was still reading air.

We'll go back tomorrow
and finish it out.

Good morning, Gordy,
how you doin'?

Good morning,
good to see you, too.

After the hike
of a mile and a half,

I'm convinced
I can't hack going back

to the Latin Heart site.

I've had four operations
since I was here last.

It took its toll.

Now, I talked with Jason,
and I said,

"Hey, if there's a spare tent
left over down here for me,

I'm good to stay."

So I've given you
the coordinates,

I've given you the aerial
surveys, and I think

you guys all need
to get up there.

I wish that I had
prior knowledge

to all of this, you know?

No... he... I mean, I... I just
listen to him, you know?

I gotta tell you, that guy is...

He has very interesting,
convincing stories.

He knows what the hell
he's talking about.

I am... well, I am not having
any doubt in my mind.

The kid... the kid is just...

I mean, he's... he's got dreams
of getting the kid all involved,

and I don't see it, do you?

No.

They were... the... you know,
the Peraltas were like

- the Rockefellers for...
- Yeah.

- You know, the King of Spain?
- Nah, but very interesting.

- Yeah.
- To do all the mining.

I was for... for weeks,
I was trying to think

of what Peralta, I was like,
"Is that an Indian?"

I never heard
an Indian group named that.

- Yeah, well...
- I just couldn't think

- of what that was.
- What did they do,

did they get a Spanish
land grant here, or something?

Yeah, they did, and the guy,
the head Peralta guy,

I forget his name,
Manuel Peralta I believe,

he was the largest, uh,
landowner in the state

of California.

So, a lot of people
in the history books

don't know about
these Peralta miners

that were massacred...
86 of 'em in 1847...

by the Apaches.

Billy boy.

10 bucks, are we gonna
see anything or what?

- Yeah, we are.
- Yeah?

Fuckin' A.

Very unstable.

Very loose.

I see the tarp.

And I brought
twice the digging tools.

So, we're gonna go
four times faster

and deeper.

I'll be right back.

I'm not trying
to get out of work.

- Oh, yeah.
- No, I'm not.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Obviously, I think someone
was just diggin' down

to see if there was
some kind of vein.

'Course, who knows?

Anyway, we'll just have to wait
till Robert gets here.

You know, Kess, he's 67, 68,

uh, so he...

It's been a hard trip for him.

So, he's following
up the rear today,

taking it a little bit slower.

So, David and James
are over there hard at it

to get us down
another foot and a half,

so we can run
the scanner over it,

uh, or I've got my,
uh, metal detector.

And if for some reason

there's... there isn't
anything there,

then we're going over
this hill here

to target number two,

and, uh, let's see
what we can, uh...

see if we can, uh,
bring up the target

on, um, Robert's scanner.

Well, that's where
I'm leading to,

is in another two months
is kinda the goal.

I know it sounds stupid,
two months or next week...

That's what I'm saying
is you pick a goal,

put your mind to it,
I just haven't

put my mind to it yet.

I have a mental image
of that shit.

Hey, David.

James.

How's it going?

- We're waiting on you, Bill.
- Okay.

We got the rock out.

You got the rock up?

- What?
- You found the volleyball rock?

- Yeah.
- Get out of here.

- We're waiting on you, Bill.
- Oh, okay.

I thought you would've
set off a flare or something.

Find my way down.

Robert, we're waiting for you,

you have honors.

There were other rocks
that we found on the way

down there to it,
but this was the big one,

- right smack in the middle.
- I'll scan it for you.

Now, Robert, there's another
fire pit right here.

Just kind of in the open.

Well, I'm just sayin',
I don't know how long it takes,

but this... you know,
this could be

a fire pit right here, and...

This looks like a big,
uh... bigger one.

- Look at it, it's not here.
- Well, I'm just saying,

it's in line with this,
I just, you know...

No, no, but I'm sayin' that
what... what you're lookin' at

is not just that,
it's this here.

Yeah.

- I see a fire pit.
- Got the laptop?

Got the cables?

- Yes.
- Bring 'em up.

I just don't wanna leave
this area without trying to...

You should see pretty much
what we were seeing.

And you'll notice that
there's no target in there.

Well, this is right in line,
look at it.

- By... by...
- Do you know what I'm sayin'?

Yeah.

There's nothing there
in the center.

But, you can see
where I'm saying that target

used to be,
and the ground all around it

was dug up.

So, I don't think
they're gonna find anything.

I think it's been dug out,
or they've moved my fireplace.

- So, Bill.
- Yeah?

I don't have anything on there.

So, either they moved
the fireplace or they took it.

You wanna look at this, Robert?

- That's a fire pit, too.
- That's not ours.

That's not yours, okay, okay.

Since time's fleeting,
why don't you go to target two?

- Gettin' my strength.
- Okay.

Even this... look at it, Bill,
even this is...

I'm... I'm... you know,
you can see 'em everywhere.

That... that could be a spot,

that could be a spot.

And they're really close
to the general area.

And to be so fixated on...

Yeah, yeah.

I want you to come up here
and look at what we just found.

You won't fricking
believe this.

- Is that paper?
- It's a tarp.

They stuffed it with
something to hide it.

How deep did they go?

- Look at this shit!
- Am I wrong? Good lord.

- Look at this!
- Leave it for prints.

- Yeah.
- Well, I got my gloves on.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- We got...

- Are those empty?
- No, they're full!

We've got Campbell's soup,
pea with bacon.

Progresso
loaded potato and bacon.

Bean and bacon.

These guys loved bacon!

Unbelievable!

They opened up an abandoned mine
from the Mexican Peralta's.

- Well, I wouldn't.
- Yeah, could of.

You're not gonna dig
like that to hide tools!

- That...
- No, no, they didn't do that.

That's... that's for sure.

They opened up a shaft
that'd been sealed.

And they... they broke in.

Okay, well, uh, leave the tarp
in the hole so it's safe.

The mine was already going.

It had been built way back when.

This mine was already... had
already been started.

Now, the mine...
you're saying mine?

- Yeah, mine.
- Were they looking for gold

in here? The original
guy who dug in here?

- Yes, why would he do that?
- Of course they were

gold miners, this point
I'm ready to call the FBI

and say there's been gold stolen
on federal land.

That looks like explosives
to me.

I don't know anything
about explosives.

- I... I wouldn't touch it.
- Well no, I'm not touching it.

Well if it's fulminated mercury,
it could go off in your hand.

Nice little PVC pipe bomb.

Ah, shit!

This is unreal,
this is un-fricking-believable.

What is that? A backpack?

Well that's fricking
unbelievable!

Look at that!

- That's gutsy.
- Well... well.

Well, we'll look at
the contents.

There's a Red Bull can here.

Don't touch it, there might be
prints the sheriffs can get.

- You okay?
- Yup.

I'm just staggering down.

- You got it?
- That's brand new!

We got a name!

Yeah, here's L.A. Swat
when you need them?

Right, they're catching stuff!

This is unreal,
this is un-fricking-believable.

Okay, doing the Vietnam check
here.

A phone number!

- Is that a score?
- Oh, that's a score!

Oh, damn.

Oh, baby.

But holy... That's a... That's it.

We flushed them.

They ran out of here like...
ran out of here like illegals.

- This is damp.
- Okay.

Another bottle.

Don't wanna handle that.

- Foil.
- Tinfoil.

Uh, space blanket?

Oh, I think we can connect
him with the explosives.

What's in there?

- Don't play too much.
- Oh.

We got matches, cannon fuse.

Thermite igniter, two pack.

You got bomb making equipment
out here.

This is FBI evidence.

We're good at finding tools, and
we're good at finding backpacks.

Somebody's moved a butt load
of dirt over here.

Just recently.

Looks like 80 percent
of the material is gone.

This used to be up there,

and right here was a stone
monument about that high.

It's gone.

The history's gone.

The shit's trashed.

Bomb went off out up here.

I told the Feds, I said,

"If... if we go get a bar,
and we find it's a bar

then the cache here was... would
be worth today

a billion dollars."

Those guys left those tools
because they're coming back

because they didn't get
down far enough.

You saw those guys
coming out of here

with all those horses
with the crates?

Fuck!

I'm gonna bet they took out
whatever they found.

Pretty clear that the plunderers
have been out here.

Government wouldn't
listen to me.

They're probably gonna say,
"Well, you're the one

that released the information."
I said, "I told you I would."

All right.

Visions of sugarplums dancing
in your heads, huh, Bill?

- Ugh, this is...
- Frustrating for yah, huh?

- My God.
- Those gold bars

are just flying
out of your mind!

We'll be back.

You throw out GPS coordinates
on the...

Publish those,
somebody's gonna grab them.

And start looking.

So, this doesn't surprise me.

I don't know what they dug up.

I just wanted a permit
to dig a tiny little hole.

I'm a missile scientist
that knows the technology.

I know this works.

Why don't you believe me?

I said, "If you don't let me
do this, I've got to publish.

I've gotta put this before my
peers and get judged."

I'm pissed!

I'm going to the sheriff
when we get out of here!

We give them the evidence.

I want their ass kicked!

And I want the goddamn
politicians to wear the blood!

The question is did those people
come up empty handed or not?

Did they get it?

Or didn't they get it?

Was it there ever?

He did let out that

he believed there was... there
was deposits of something there.

That has not, uh, that has
gotten out to the public.

And he believes that there
may some deposits left.

But he said a chunk of that,
a big piece of that, is...

has been, uh, taken out.

He gave out the coordinates,
and... and you know,

probably shouldn't have done...
well, shouldn't have done that.

- Shouldn't have done that.
- I think if he had to do it

over again, uh,
he certainly wouldn't have

put those coordinates in.

I don't wanna say,
you know, that I...

I think he's full of shit,
but, you know,

the first couple of days
I was really questioning,

you know, what...
what does this guy see?

What... what makes him
feel this way?

Why... why would he think
that there's gold bars there?

And I haven't seen any gold yet.

I'm very interested in, you
know, preserving the history,

and, you know, keeping people
from coming out here

and dying and, you know,
killing themselves,

or blowing up terrain
and using pipe bombs

and all that kind of stuff.

I'm definitely interested
in helping out stop that,

but my main interest is my dad,
you know.

This is somebody I just
never really got to know.

So, you know, I was angry
and upset and hurt

and then a little bit later,
a few years

later, I found out about Nathan

being my half-brother.

And so then you kind of
deal with jealousy

and that kind of stuff,

and like, "Well, hey, I'm here.

What about me?" Um.

And then you just kind of,
you know,

It... it stuck with me
for a while, but then

as I grew older and just
kind of learned to let it go.

Alright so here we are
on like day seven,

six, somewhere in there.

Psh, my days kind of gotten
blurred all together.

What we saw, and all those
holes, is a federal crime.

I didn't sleep last night.

It's against the Wilderness Act,

and if they got manmade items,
they've also broken

- the Antiquities Act.
- You're the lawyer, am I wrong?

- It was tough yesterday.
- I know it is, don't cry.

- It was just tough, you know.
- You can imagine how I feel.

No, I know, I've only been doing
this for sixteen months.

- You've been at this for...
- Six years.

Are you convinced that we found
the Peralta Latin Heart site?

As I told you before,
I look through the lens,

you know,
of a litigation attorney,

and what I could prove to a jury
and what I couldn't.

And this would be easy to prove.

If you look at the lay of the
land on that topo map I've got,

- it's a total match.
- No, it's a total match.

And so we've had the people that
were in the Dutch Hunters Club

of Apache Junction
stand up and acknowledge

that I had succeeded.

“Robert has found it.”
They acknowledged that publicly.

He's got gold fever!

We bring two guys on our crew
that have got gold fever

that bring all the... Stop!

- Yeah, but...
- Stop!

I brought you here
and now you're all jammed up

about something
that somebody else did...

I'm all jammed up
about you two knuckleheads

going around digging holes
all over this place!

What holes have we dug
all over this place?

Did you bury a single bit of the
crap that you dug up yesterday?

- Where you dug those casings up.
- There was already a hole there.

- You dug, and you walked away!
- Wait a minute.

You dug, and you walked away!

If you can't admit that,
I'm through!

- That was a five-hour job.
- Did you hear what I just said?

Oh, you're nuttier
than a fruitcake.

You're a knucklehead today.
You're really a knucklehead.

Bill, there's gold here.
Shut the fuck up.

No, I don't have to shut up!

There's another story here that
you don't know anything about.

And that's why it's important
for us to bring a gold bar up...

No, it is not important to bring
a single piece of gold out...

We are here to show
that technology has proven

that there's gold here!

That's the backpack.

That's the label that was on
the orange pack that contained

- the detonators and shit.
- Okay.

- That's the bag.
- Okay, gotcha.

- And where's the pipe bombs?
- They had taken that,

uh, grey PVC
with some white PVC caps.

And this is what
it looked like or what?

Yeah, that's... that's right,
yeah, it is.

Like it's all homemade shit.

In that area
is a lot of the land destroyed?

Yeah, yeah, they dug a big hole.

And then underneath that
they put in a tunnel,

and that's where the food
and some tools was stashed.

That name you found?

On that bag?

Yeah, sir.

Yeah, we have it.

We've contacted him numerous
times last summer out there

where he was out hiking
for miles and miles

and miles with no water.

About four times we had
to get him out of there.

I tell you, it's the richest
gold ore ya ever seen!

Come on!

Gold fever'll make you
do some terrible things.

It's that... it's that
luster lure of a treasure.

You can tell someone when
someone has gold fever

'cause they just become totally

turn on the dime of interest.

I've had, um,
some gold fever for sure.

You know, I mean, not bad enough
that I wanted to hit my partner

over the head
or anything like that.

But it is an obsession.

I've got the gold fever.

- You still have gold fever?
- Oh, one hundred percent.

I mean, I wouldn't have tootled
down to Florida for ten days

looking for treasure
on the beach if I hadn't.

It's all part of it.
It's all part of it.

It gnaws at them,
it eats away at them.

That they're just there,
they got to get it done,

they got to get it done
and we hear about that,

a number of treasure hunters
who died in the mountains,

that they just
couldn't let it go.

Is your odometer working?
Your mileage odometer?

Well, yeah, I know,
I gotta look at it.

I see 160,000, is that
what you're talking about?

Yeah, but I wanna know
the last two digits.

Oh, okay.

83.

- 83?
- Yeah.

The map that Robert cracked,
the Peralta Heart Map,

so far has been spot on.

I've seen the bars,
and we're bringing the gold out!

But where... where
is our destination?

Our destination's
right over here.

- Okay.
- So we've gotta go down,

we've gotta go over
this mountain,

and then we go around
Marsh Valley?

- See that's where we...
- Yeah.

So this is where... that's where...

And we're going past that today?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't
believe you don't remember.

We gotta go over that we gotta
hike over that big mountain!

- I'm drawing a blank.
- It's a bitch.

Now, do you have
an idea where that is?

Yes, I have an idea
where that is!

Like, like it's right here.

I know where the arch
is but I mean,

you're looking at this.

What indicates
that you know where that is?

- I don't know.
- Okay.

You're asking me questions,
I don't know.

No, I'm gonna ask you five times
and then we're done.

There's gonna be... There's gonna
be some kind of marker.

Okay, I do wanna get up here
to see what they've dug.

Yeah, yeah, oh no, no, I don't
have any problem with that!

- Because I do know-
- Yeah, yeah!

I do know... We do know
where that is.

And we do know
what's under there, okay?

Yeah, yeah.

You can see that those arms

appear to have been sheared off.

And there's those two long arms

create a 'V' okay?

And that's the line of sight.

So it's not going to be a
perfect... but you know that

you're gonna go in this
direction.

- Right.
- Okay? It's got a cross cut

in the very top of it, okay?

That's a marker,
that was cut in there, alright?

Could Mother Nature
have done that?

Yeah but it just... it aligns
right with that.

I'm at that point,
it's the heat...

it's not even the heat of the
day, and I'm melting up here,

wasting a lot of energy,
and uh, there's only uh,

the hours that
we're wasting also.

He might've thought
that was a Roman Numeral one

'cause there's a cross on it,
and then there's a one.

- I wouldn't call that a three.
- It's not a Roman Numeral.

I'm not saying it ain't!

I wouldn't call it that.

I think enough with this.

I think that can be put off
till later.

I think we should be digging.

Or, or we should be,
uh researching

where there may be caches
undisturbed and the markers

are still in place, and we can
say, “This is where it's at.”

Right down here is a rock

with fricking rocks piled
on top of it is a marker!

Those rocks were put there!

You just don't have a pile of
rocks to have a pile of rocks!

Those things are heavy.

And that's a fricking marker,
and it's next to

he crossed saguaro.

It all... It all fits.

This is a one bar site.

This is, you know
what I'm saying?

- So this is...
- Why?

Let go.

You need to know
what to look for.

You need to look for cuts
in saguaro cactuses.

You need to look
for rocks that are piled up

on top of each other 'cause
that's how they would mark it!

- I got it!
- All right, well.

- Let's move on!
- Okay, we're moving on.

I would like to set up a plan
where we can actually prove

that this, uh,
this research had...

that was done by Kess is valid.

All we can do is go look
and observe and see if we can...

- See if we can...
- Figure out because we don't

- have the scanner.
- Mhm.

So.

First off, this is on the map,
okay?

And there's... it shows
that there's a...

Here, let me pull it out.

That spike, all I've heard
from Kesselring is,

“The spike! The spike!"

Once you find a spike,
that is a telltale sign

that they have that's a...
that they've hidden...

they've buried gold bullion!

Men put this together.

Uh, James,
we're not gonna destroy that.

That's too precious of a thing,
I'm not gonna destroy it.

- It ain't precious to me!
- Well, I just...

I'm not saying it shouldn't be
here when we get done!

I'm saying we can take pictures
of it and put it back together

- 90 percent of the way it was.
- No, we can't.

- No, we can't.
- This is not a religious

- fucking thing!
- Well, I understand, but I'd...

Don't get religious on me!

Well, I'm telling you!

I'm not talking about
destroying stuff,

I'm just talking about
taking the door off

and putting the door back on.

What, are you gonna move that?
That's not part of...

that's not part of it.

Take that off of there.

Well, I don't wanna be stupid
about some of this shit,

and that's stupid.

I think I can dig right here.

Is it alright if I move this,
Bill?

I wanna say this, though,
I wanna just question you

one more time on this.

You basically were saying
it's underneath this.

It could be.

Well, it could be to the side.

According to the map, right over
here is another cache site.

So I'm just gonna walk over here

right over here and see

if I can see anything
that looks...

Now what does
that look like to you?

That looks like a fucking...

fricking one of those
spike markers.

But, you know, it could just be
a regular rock.

- Hey, Bill.
- Huh?

What'd you see on the screen?

- I saw the gold bars!
- Here?

- Yeah.
- Here's... here's...

James, it's saying
there's 5,000 bars there.

So it's gonna be massive.

My guess is, it would be there.

Because that's where
the deeper mud is, right?

As the slope goes up,
it's another foot.

I don't know, I mean,
it's an idiot project to me.

Bill, how many?
Give me that number again?

5,000.

Five thousand?

That's a lot, man.

5,000 bars?

Where?

You know what I'm saying?

All I'm waiting for
is that full moon.

When it comes through
that window,

it'll light up the patch
of ground where I'm to dig.

I'm standing
right in the center of it!

Right here!

This is where I dig.

20 million bucks worth.

It is the moon
that'll point out that gold,

it'll only do it once a year

on the anniversary of the night
the Peraltas made that sign.

That's the catch,
when was that sign made?

What night?
What hour? What moment?

If I could figure that out,
I'd hit the jackpot!

In my mind, if something
monetarily comes of it,

it's gonna come down the road,
if we discover something,

'cause it's like finding
the Titanic!

James Cameron, they make
20 million dollars a year

taking all that... taking
all the uh, artifacts

that they found, uh, from
the Titanic around the country.

You do things for passion, okay,

and this is being part of
history,

coming out in the Superstition
where thousands of people

have been out here
trying to locate stuff.

If I could've been, you know,
and I still feel I will,

but you know,
to be a part of that?

It's being a part of history,
so money didn't have that much...

didn't have that much... I wasn't
even thinking about money!

You know, do I have gold fever?

I've never been... I've never been
prospecting in my life

except this time, you know,
so if I had gold fever,

it would've started
a long time ago.

There's no doubt in my mind,
if those guys hadn't blown up

the side of that mountain
and taken 13 hundred gold bars

that were there
that I saw on the scanning?

No problem,
there's no doubt in my mind.

And I know there's bars
back there, you know?

It's just you gotta
have that scanner.

So I'm coming out here again.

With Jason and I can guarantee...

well, I can't guarantee
anything.

I thought we'd have one now.

I'm pretty sure that
we'll be able to locate,

uh, you know, those bars.

I had no business
coming right now.

I had no fucking business.

I need help with my pack
to put it on.

We're almost... we're almost up.

Mother of pearl.

God fricking.

Woo.

Schoose is here, Feldman's here,
San Felice is here.

- Yeah, I saw him.
- This is?

- Gary.
- My son, Nathan.

- Nathan.
- Jason.

- Jason!
- You have a son named Nathan?

- Yeah, I got...
- Okay, I'm hoping so.

- Too many kids.
- 'Cause that really sucks

- if he doesn't.
- Oh, no, yeah.

- Bar's open right?
- Bar's open.

- Nice meeting you, Nathan.
- Jason!

This year, Treasure Hunter's
25th Annual Awards Presentation.

"To a true mountain man
and treasure hunter.

You will be remembered
by us all forever and always.

Happy trails, thanks for
the campfires we have shared."

It is an honor and a privilege
to present this award to

Brian Lichtman!

I've looked for this mine a long
time with my good partner,

- Ron Feldman, here...
- No matter what he's done,

Robert Kesselring would be
on a list for an award.

But he's not being accepted
by all of the people

that have spent
their lives out there.

- How do you spell that again?
- Uh, Walz, W-A-L-Z.

Jacob Walz.

Nope, nobody with that name
ever registered a claim here.

This record goes clear back
to 1870.

But there must've been,
the Lost Dutchman

was supposed to be worth a
fortune, he wouldn't just leave

- that money laying around.
- Maybe he never found a mine.

Some people don't believe
there ever was a Lost Dutchman.

Anybody that would use
Thunder Gods Gold as the Bible

is, uh, shooting blanks.

Yeah, it's got a lot
of information in it,

but realize that
Barry Storm created

a lot of the information.

According to my friend
who was out there with him,

he had a little problem
with drinking

and so he did
a lot of that instead

of doing a lot
of this uh, treasure hunting.

Barry Storm, in his time
in the '40s...'30s and '40s

was using what was considered
state-of-the-art electronics

and detecting equipment.

It seems ridiculous now, looks
like a bunch of PVC framework

they're carrying around,
not too much different

than what we see now still,
though.

I guess if you were to
look at it in one certain way

they're all competing.

Everybody's competing
for the, you know,

the same ultimate goals.

To the people that wanna call
Dad a fraud,

I just, I shake my head them,
like, okay.

If that's what you think,
but I believe him.

That's just, yeah, I have
no other thought other than,

right, I believe him.

It's a good story.

And it's a great legend.

There is something
magical about it.

The true believers will believe
these stories, though,

because they are feasible.

They're plausible.

But, uh, take you down
the path of plausibility,

you just have to figure out
where to get off.

Place like this
is just made for folklore.

It gives the dreamers
the opportunity to dream.

We all need that.

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Hello, Mr. May, my name
is Brian McDonough.

I'm a gold miner from Arizona.

I'm calling to tell you
about the film

that you're producing right
now.

I've spent 30 years prospecting
for gold in Arizona.

Kesselring, Schoose,
Feldman, Tuttle.

They all know
that I've found the mine.

I never looked for the mine,

I found it. It came to me.

They're just a little pissed
off and a little upset

that a prospecting cab driver
has found the mine, not them.

If you guys tell the story
from these assholes,

these idiots in Apache
Junction, that are nothing

but a bunch
of crazy-eyed whack jobs,

that the mine has
not been found

and that it's some kind of
farce legend,

or the stones were carved in
someone's garage,

that's a bunch of hogwash!

Up on Stoneman Lake Road,
when I was just a kid

my dad said,
when you pass here, look around

those outlaws came
this way with that stolen.

Clarkdale payroll.

They were caught,

But the bag was never found.

And after all these years,

Each time I drive that road.

My eyes are always searching,
so it seems.

But I don't know
if I'm looking for

that lost outlaw payroll.

Or searching for
a kid's forgotten dreams.

That secret canyon never
really given up its secrets.

Does Peralta Canyon
hide a Spanish mine?

Are those silver pesos buried
beside the Reavis Trail.

Is the Dutchman's gold still
there for men to find.

Oh, I never found that fame.

Never even found a nugget.

No outlaw stash
nor mystic motherlode.

But as time goes by, I realize.

The joy is in the searching.

And I'd rather have
the stories than the gold.

That secret canyon never
really given up its secrets.

Does Peralta Canyon
hide a Spanish mine?

Are those silver pesos buried
beside the Reavis Trail.

Is the Dutchman's gold
still there for men to find.

Did the Dutchman
ever really have a mine.

Hey there, partners!

Welcome to
Goldfield Ghost Town!

I'm Jacob Waltz,
The Lost Dutchman!

Come on over here, now,

and I'll tell you
how to find my goldmine!

Everybody that has ever hunted
the Lost Dutchman Mine

knows where it is,
including myself,

and every one of us
is in a different location.

These guys believe what...
in their theories

that they come up with.

They will always tell you
where there's not gold.

And they will tell you how
there's fraud, and there's...

there's been plenty of fraud.

There ain't a whole lot of facts
about The Lost Dutchman Mine.

They're all stories.

Legends.

Of all the people you know,
how many stories do you know

that are actually true?

How many stories that I've heard
do I think are actually true?

Mine!

We haven't had any luck

but we're absolutely positive

that there is a treasure
in there.

If you look at the people
that are here today,

none of them are quitters.

All of them
are absolutely dedicated

to answering the question.

Next time,
when we come back out,

we're gonna get in it,
I guarantee it.

I imagine that same feeling
that I had before

is going to be right back
in my stomach.

I'm just gonna keep the faith
and keep on digging.