Alt-Right: Age of Rage (2018) - full transcript

[man on speakers]
Introducing the next speaker,

I do so with a feeling
of personal affection.

We love him for the enemies he has made.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Fritz Kuhn.

[crowd cheering and applauding]

[in English]

[crowd laughing]

[crowd booing]

[yelling]

[crowd chanting] You will not replace us!

You will not replace us!



[shouts]

Our side was defending themselves
to a large degree.

I've no doubt about that.

[man]
Does this day feel like a win to you?

It does feel like a win
because we demonstrated our resolve.

[ambulance siren]

[Daryle]
Everything falls apart from this day.

[man with Daryle] Yeah.

Everybody knows them now.
Everybody's seen them now.

And when they go home
to their families and to their jobs

and to their professions,

everybody's going to say,
"Why were you there?"

You motherfuckers! You dance like this.

-Fuck you!
-You know, you--



Fuck you!

[shouts and crashing]

[interviewer] Go, go, go, go.

[tires screeching]

-[people clamoring]
-[cameraman] We got multiple injuries!

Possible fatalities.

[man yelling] Why?

[Richard] Little mayor Singer... Signer...

How do you pronounce
this little creep's name?

[man] Jew. Jew!
That's how you pronounce it.

[laughs]

[Richard]
The idea that I would ever back down

to such a little creep like Mayor Signer.

We are never backing down.

Now it's not gonna be over.
It's not going to be. Never.

[people cheering]

The problem that everybody has,

I don't care
if you're on the left or on the right,

truth is going to do what truth does.

Lies have consequences
and you will not escape those.

You know the old saying, "Evil flourishes
when good people do nothing."

Regardless of whether or not
a person has the right

to say whatever they want to say,

the fact of the matter is when
they make it clear that they're fascists,

you're supposed to do something about it

to make sure
that those particular rights are intact.

Otherwise, you're doing nothing more
than copping out

because you're too cowardly
to put up a fight.

[Richard]
Daryle the Barrel, as he's known,

he weighs at least 400 pounds.

He's this anti-fascist activist

who's done all sorts of research

and has dedicated his life
to hating people, you know, basically.

[Daryle] I don't have kids of my own.
I have nieces and nephews.

I hope that they are
able to learn something

from what it is that I do.

I'm not begrudging Antifa
of trying to remain anonymous

and to remain inconspicuous
in the work they do,

but I can't do that
and that's one of the reasons why.

My family needs to know
and the people around me

need to know that this is what I am,

this is what I do
and I'm damn proud of it.

And I want you to learn something
from all of that.

Have you ever met Antifa
or interviewed them?

What are they like?

In defense of Daryle,

he's not a strung-out,
you know, gutter punk.

Yeah. I don't think he's on drugs.
He's just on donuts.

[Richard laughs]

[Richard] The idea that we just
randomly have different skin color,

but we're all the same,

it's just absolutely ridiculous.

Hail Trump. Hail our people. Hail victory.

[people cheering]

[Richard] Race matters,

race has mattered for every single person
in world history

except silly white liberals
and white conservatives post 1960.

The idea that we're the strange ones
is risible.

[Daryle] There's a gentleman
by the name of Richard Spencer,

little rich kid, never had a real job

except maybe being a tutor
to some high school kids

in a school somewhere.

He's basically known
as a right-wing propagandist

and he's always had these hate politics
coming along with him.

Our identity is going to be forged through
this great crisis that we're experiencing.

We're experiencing the implications
of mass immigration and multiculturalism

and multiracialism.

We're going to come out of it
as a new people.

[Daryle] If you're going to be about
neo-fascist ideas,

neo-fascist principles,
goodbye, you're gone.

When I was in the military,

I took an oath to defend against
all enemies, foreign and domestic.

You become a domestic enemy
when you do shit like that.

[Gavin] So, what is this thing
you guys are doing?

[male interviewer] So, it's an
independent documentary

on alternative right ideology, thought.

And you're actually the first...
You're the first person we're filming with

and this is literally the first day.

-OK.
-OK?

[blowing]

The alt-right is an abbreviation
of "alternative right."

The phrase was coined in 2008

by a very alt-right guy
named Richard Spencer.

He hooked up with a guy
named Paul Gottfried

who is a college professor
of some small college somewhere

who once gave a speech
saying that we need an alternative right.

Spencer turned that term,
"alternative right,"

into the name of his new blog
that he started writing.

And to give you an idea
of how bad that blog was,

they once had an article

suggesting that maybe
we should start trying black genocide,

killing off all black people.

The idea basically
of the alternative right in the U.S.

is that the baby boomers sold them out,

have created
a completely untenable situation

by encouraging non-white immigration,

interracial relationships and so on.

In many ways, the alternative right
is just really a branding,

a rebranding of white supremacy

for public relations purposes.

[Gavin] There's the alt-right.

They all get put under
this umbrella of alt-right.

And then there's a sliver here
of total and utter nuts.

You have the alt-lite that is totally fine
with gays and wants legalization of drugs

and is basically libertarian politically.

So, Milo Yiannopoulos.

You've got me, you've got Ann Coulter.

Now the alt-right,

you have a lot more conservative values,
a lot more pro-white sentiment

that says, like Richard Spencer said,

very intelligent guy, I love debating him,

but he said to me, "There's no future
for non-whites in America."

America was, until this past generation,
a white country

designed for ourselves and our posterity.

[crowd cheering]

[Daryle] That little stuff made
Richard Spencer well-known

in the mainstream as a white supremacist

because, when people started sieg-heiling
and he started screaming "Hail victory,"

which, by the way,
is the English translation of "Sieg Heil,"

that particular conference
and that particular stunt

threw it all through the doors wide open

as to what the so-called alt-right
truly was.

But we already knew who they were.
It wasn't really a secret.

The truth is that we are
being ethnically cleansed

in our own nation,

in the nation our own forefathers built.

This is what I know from this meeting,

I'd like for you to repeat it
if you believe it.

The goyim know!

-[people] The goyim know!
-Yeah!

Hey, everyone, listen up!

Listen up! Everyone, everyone, listen up!

You need to get together, turn around

and move towards your vehicles,
get in them and move now!

We have violent Antifa
on the way right now!

We are going to be aggressive,
we are gonna be confrontational

and our way of doing that is basically

just exposing the hate mongers

in ways that
they don't want to be exposed.

-Get out of my face!
-What's wrong, man?

Get out of my face! Get out of my face!

-You did!
-[woman] We'd love to have--

[Daryle] You know how racist they are!

You know how hateful they are!

-No pictures.
-[Daryle] Too late. And don't touch that.

Don't start anything like that.

Don't start anything with me, boy.

-[Daryle] Boy? Boy?
-[woman] Who is that?

[Daryle] My organization
is called One People's Project.

And what we do
is that we report and research

and provide information
about neo-Nazi groups

and other assorted hate groups
around the country.

One of the biggest fears
is that they will be revealed,

they will be doxxed,
they will be found out

and people would know who they are

because that means they'll lose their job,
they'll lose their standing in society.

That crowd is more afraid of us
than we are of them.

[interviewer]
What happens if you are doxxed?

I'm probably fucked.

[Rachel] Daryle Lamont Jenkins
has made it a personal crusade

to monitor and expose

and, honestly, to annoy white supremacists
all over the country.

-You take a lot of pleasure in your work.
-Oh, yes, indeed.

[Richard] He's pretty gross-looking,
to be honest.

I personally like to be around
people who are good-looking.

[Daryle] You knew I was coming.

I didn't know you were coming.

I thought you might be dead by now--

-No, no, no. That was your dream.
-Because of your obesity.

[Daryle] Yeah. Unfortunate--

If you're whittled down to fat jokes,
baby, then you're just done.

[Daryle] First time
I heard of Dick Spencer was in 2011.

I mean, I sat in on the press conference
that they was having.

I asked a question. We were all good.

It deteriorated from there
because he's still a Nazi.

And I had to treat him like one.

What do you think is gonna
happen to the alt-right?

I already know what's going to happen.

-We've been here before.
-Are we going to fall?

-Oh, really?
-Yes, you are gonna--

It's going to be like '45?

[Jared] Daryle Lamont Jenkins
is a black activist

whose job it is
to try to silence people like me.

People littered my neighborhood
with my name and address

and said, you know, in effect
to go punch this guy out

because of what he thinks.

That kind of behavior
can get a pass in our society today

because the zeitgeist
is still in their favor.

For the country to tolerate that,

to me, is a sign
of just how corrupt we've become.

[Mark] The idea that there's a substantial
radical left in the U.S.

is ridiculous.

The claim that there are somehow
some sort of equivalency

that, you know,
you've got this large radical right

and then equally large and equally scary
radical left is simply not true.

And I'm not denying historical realities.

Look, I mean in the 1960s, early '70s,

there was a whole lot of left-wing
real-life terrorism.

But that's simply not true anymore.

[Lacy] Some members of the alt-right,

their literature says that
women should be feminine and polite.

Those are their two adjectives,
feminine and polite.

Guess what, I'm not going to
go back into the kitchen,

I'm not going to be barefoot and pregnant,

I am not going to let them
rollback my rights. I'm not going back.

And I will fight them
with my last breath.

[TV KWA] I think there are
a lot of young people

who, through whatever circumstances

came to be really disillusioned with
the social environment they grew up in

and see this
as some kind of reactionary response

that kind of appeals to them.

[Richard] With a lot of these young kids,

they haven't read the book,
they've watched a YouTube video

that's given it all to them. And I'm not--

I don't say that to dismiss them

because it's almost like
some of us were smoking,

you know, weed for years
and tried a little cocaine

and some of these young kids just
like injected heroin into their eyeball.

But they've come to these ideas
much more quickly

and in a much more intense fashion.

[TV KWA] I was attracted to
a lot of the arguments they were making,

as far as advocating for white people,
advocating for your own self-interest

when everybody else
is doing the same thing,

it's kind of sink or swim scenario.

[Simran] I don't think
that the alt-right would exist

in the way that it does today
without a medium like the Internet.

People can do it anonymously
and without consequence

and then actually be,
"rewarded for doing so."

You know, it's an incentivized system
that just creates more and more hate.

[Daryle] There's a lot of hate
that's out there in today's society.

People who have just been involved
in this kind of hate politics,

they're just getting beaten down
at every single turn,

and along comes a guy like Donald Trump
who gives them a little bit of juice.

The forgotten men and women of our country
will be forgotten no longer.

[crowd cheering]

So much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here

and stops right now.

[crowd cheering]

[Jared] Donald Trump
did appeal to a certain incipient

racial consciousness
among the electorate.

A certain number of people,

an unknown number of people voted for him
because he wanted to build a wall,

he wanted to throw out all illegals

and he wanted to take a very, very
hard look at Muslim immigration.

Those people are incipiently
racially conscious

because all of those policies, they will
slow the dispossession of whites,

they will slow the reduction of whites
to a minority.

This is an important appeal
to a certain number of Americans.

I don't know how many.

My friend Alonzo Bodden
has a very funny quote, he's a comedian.

He goes,
"Not all Trump supporters are racists,

but all racists are Trump supporters."

[man] Right, right, right.

[Mark] I think it's almost impossible

to say what the next
three and a half years of Trump

are going to play out like.

Assuming that Trump is not impeached
or doesn't wind up in prison,

you know, I think that
things are going to get worse.

For these four years,

white nationalists really feel like
they have their man in the White House

and that maybe
they will be able to make real progress

in terms of, uh, cracking down on
non-white immigration, that kind of thing.

[crowd cheering]

[Richard] The inauguration
was actually quite civilized.

There was heavy police presence.
Everyone was well behaved.

Fuck that! Fuck--

There was a--
An Australian broadcast company came over.

So there was a big circle around.

And I was doing my usual stuff.

So I was engaging in some banter--

[reporter] Are you like a hipster version
of the neo-Nazi movement?

What?

It's a-- It's a kind of a symbol--

[man 1] Fuck you!

-[people yelling]
-[man 2] Hey!

[cameraman] Yo, brother,
let me see your face!

-Fuck you, man.
-What's your name?

-Fuck you, man!
-You're a fucking criminal!

-Get the fuck away from me!
-You're a criminal!

I can punch Richard Spencer
right in the face.

[Richard] Just inside of my head,

so I can't hear out of this ear too well
right now.

[interviewer] Do you feel safe?

Um, I ultimately feel safe,

but I would say this, uh,

and I almost regret saying this

because I know
it will give my enemies some joy,

but I would say that two years ago
I would feel utterly safe

and I wouldn't--
I felt that I could be anonymous.

We've entered a new stage
where political violence has returned.

[interviewer] Do you know who punched him?

Can you give me any info about it?
Because nobody--

-I cannot give you any information.
-[interviewer] Nobody knows anything.

[Mark] What the Antifas,
the anti-fascists, are doing

by and large is really wrong.

Uh, it is really a mistake.

It may feel great
for some guy with a black mask on

to run up and punch Richard Spencer
on the side of the face,

but it does not help, uh,
progressive causes in this country.

In fact, it does just the opposite.

I think that he doesn't
have any moral authority

to actually say, "Gee, whiz,

I shouldn't get a sucker punch
in the face."

I think Theodore Kaczynski,
the Unabomber, said that.

[interviewer] What did he say?

That the only really truly effective thing
in any movement is violence.

And it's hard to argue that.

If they want to shut down Antifa,
they should be violent.

I cannot recommend violence enough.

It is a really effective way
to solve problems.

If you really believe
that the white majority in this country

is under threat in some way,

any act of violence is just going to
make things worse for white people.

We don't believe in
absolute non-violence.

Our understanding is that
one can engage in violence

when all other means fail.

My thing has always been,
if you're going to engage in violence,

basically, it has to be
as a form of defense.

But, like I said, when you see folks
on the other side taking swipes at us,

naturally folks are swiping back.

As far as I'm concerned,
you picked this fight, now fight.

[Trump] Knock the crap out him, would you?

Seriously. I promise you
I will pay for the legal fees, I promise.

[yelling]

[TV hostess] Developing news.
Anger boiling over.

Our cameras are rolling
as fights break out

between anti-Trump protesters
and the President's supporters.

[yelling]

[Daryle] Just trying to learn more.
I'm just seeing it for the first time now.

So, this rally was especially important
for a lot of the Trump supporters

because this was supposed to be the day

where they would just show Antifa
what's up.

Unfortunately,
it looks like Antifa showed them.

The silent majority does support Trump.

Because I voted for him and I support him

and he's doing exactly
what we asked him to do

and that's exactly why
he's the greatest president.

-[interviewer] Have you been happy so far?
-Completely happy.

Every reason for everything
he's doing right now

is every reason why I voted for him.

[Daryle] The Trump supporters,

they keep talking about
how they're fed up

with the way their society is going
and they want their country back. Uh-uh.

You fed up?

You don't know fed up. We know fed up.

And...

that's why we're going to win.

[Mark] The Southern Poverty Law Center
is not a law enforcement organization.

So, if SPL staffers run across
a real-life criminal plot,

you know, they don't play games, right?

They go straight to the FBI
or the local police force, whoever it is.

Part of this work is that people want to
kill you or at least they say they do.

So, we've had a lot of threats
over the years.

You know, I've had to surround
the house with cameras,

you know, television system
and closed circuit TV system

that completely encircles our house.

Certainly, over the years,
we've gotten mail from the Klan here.

At one point, we had a threat
from the Aryan Brotherhood,

uh, and my bosses insisted
that we move out of the house for a week.

You know, at one point,
I was notified last year

by a letter from a federal court
in New York State

that a certain guy
had bought a machine gun

and part of the plan was
to kill me among others.

[interviewer]
Do you know who Mark Potok is?

-[Richard] Yeah.
-What are your thoughts on him?

He's obviously a terrible human being.

Um, and, you know,

he clearly wants to shut down free speech.

And, if given the power
and if given the opportunity,

I am positive that he would
want to arrest people like me

for selling distrust in the communities

or some, you know,
Orwellian phrase like that.

[Mark] Richard Spencer is a guy,

sad to say,
that came out of the real academic world,

he actually got a master's
at University of Chicago,

who in 2011
took over a small little-known outfit

called the National Policy Institute

and turned it into something
more than it had been.

[Richard] Who are we?
We aren't just white.

White is a checkbox on the census form.

We are part of the people's history,
spirit and civilization of Europe.

[Mark] Spencer was able
to get a fair following

by presenting himself

as the kind of well-dressed
suit-and-tie version of the Klan.

The SPLC is a hate group effectively

because they spend much of their time
hating people.

The hate list
is basically a list of people it hates.

If you're not on that list,
it does mean you're a cock.

But, definitely, if you're not,
you're not cool.

[Daryle] Spencer wants the attention.
Spencer adores the attention.

That's the biggest downfall to any Nazi.

Because, if he is considered
to be a household name,

what can you do with that?
How do you grow with that?

Answer? You don't.

This is an old Klan hood
that I got from someone.

Whenever they get out of the WP scene,

they tend to want to get rid
of all the things that were a part of it.

H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
HH, Heil Hitler.

That same person
also gave me all of his literature.

These are two bags of that.

They have comic books, racist comic books.
There's also newsletters.

I go after a group called
the National Socialist Movement.

They even have cookbooks. [chuckles]

And, uh...

this crap. [laughs]

But that's it, that's what I got.
That's what I brought here today.

[Daryle] They want an ethnostate.

They want a white ethnostate.
They want us to be separated by race.

And that's what they're pushing for.

So, if you're ever hearing
about any nonsense

about being patriotic
coming from this crowd, that's crap.

The truth of the matter is
that's a fascist state.

I'm Antifa.
I don't let fascist state grow.

[interviewer] Tell me about this idea
you have of a white ethnostate...

Mmm-hmm.

...within the U.S.
and how you see that working.

Well...

I don't think it would take place
within the U.S.

Um, the ethnostate and, as I conceive it,

is a post-American possibility.

And it would happen
after a dramatic paradigm change

after which America,
U.S. as we know it,

would lose legitimacy,
would no longer be possible

and we would have to need something new.

So, it is a kind of
post-revolutionary idea.

And it would ultimately be a safe haven
for all whites around the world.

Whether you're Russian or Irish
or Italian or Norwegian,

this would be a safe place for you.

So, it would have a kind of
Zionist component to it.

It would be like Israel is a safe haven
for world Jewry.

And that would be the ethnostate.

There are literally tens and tens and tens
of millions of people who are not white,

who are not Christian,
and who were born in this country

and whose parents and grandparents
were born in this country.

Do you think they're gonna leave because
Richard Spencer would like them to?

You know, the ideology
is a prescription for mass murder.

[narrator] The partition in August 1947

saw the British Indian empire
split in two,

mostly along religious lines.

Pakistan was intended
to be the Muslim homeland.

India, intended for Hindus and Sikhs.

It was a recipe for trouble.

[man] Partition triggered one of
the largest migrations in human history.

Muslims trekked to West
and East Pakistan, later Bangladesh.

Millions of Hindus went the other way.

A hastily drawn border cut families, farms
and communities in two.

Between one and two million people
died in the process.

It would be just a total renewal
of whites as a people.

We'd no longer be these just,

you know, silly fat goofballs and dockers

going off to our graves.

[interviewer] Now, would gays
be allowed in this society?

Yes. Uh, yeah.

I mean, it would be for whites, and...

Look, I don't know
the origins of homosexuality.

I think there might be
a genetic component.

I've read literature on a physical,
but non-genetic component,

uh, that it's something
that occurs in the womb actually.

Um, there's also been--
There's a germ theory and so on.

There is gonna be a portion
of the population that's going to be gay.

And I think we should just live with that
and it's OK.

We don't want to focus our energies
on converting homosexuals.

I wasn't here a few days
before I was getting harassing letters

and bad looks or people
knocking on my door or things like that.

I mean it gets a bit annoying,
to be honest.

And it is kind of funny
that I provoke them so much.

OK.

I've answered this question, "Are you
a white supremacist?" so many times

that I'm kind of sick of it
and I'm tempted to almost say, "Yes."

I'm Satan to them, but, you know,
people are ultimately fascinated by Satan.

I'm not sure anyone is able to read that
except me.

Maybe that's a good thing. [chuckles]

There is no doubt

that the alt-right has been attractive
to angst-ridden young men.

And I think that's interesting

because it's ultimately frustrated and
ambitious young men who change the world.

I'm going to fix a bourbon.

I don't want my reputation to suffer.

OK, let's do it.

America is going to have to fragment
for this new ideology to emerge.

And that's what's happening.

All right,
so this is a "I'm pissed off" video, so...

[grunting]

Go Alex Jones, just take my shirt off.

All right. Well, I sometimes wonder
if I am living in a time warp

and whether we're just
repeating past mistakes,

having learned nothing.

[interviewer] Are they a fad
like some people have posed

or are they a real threat?

I don't think
that there's any question at all

that we are seeing a real rise
of this kind of ethnoracial nationalism

in the U.S.,

and in fact, in much
of the Western world in general.

You know, I think this is
a massive historical kind of trend

and it's going to get worse
before it gets better.

[interviewer]
Should we even talk about the alt-right

or would that be giving them a platform?

There's a kind of struggle
that I would characterize

as the kind of policy of quarantine
versus the policy of inoculation.

Back in the 1950s,

when groups like the American Nazi Party
were beginning to pop up,

a number of Jewish agencies
and other groups got together

and approached newspaper publishers,
people who ran television stations

and said, "Look, don't cover
the American Nazi Party.

If you give attention to them,

it will just help them build up
and get more members and so on."

Well, it was somewhat useful for a while,
that policy, quarantine.

It was actually called
the quarantine policy.

Today, I think obviously that's
totally impossible as a practical matter.

There are so many venues out there
from cable to social media to talk radio,

of course, to all kinds of,
you know, zines and so on

that it is virtually now impossible
to suppress information.

So, what do you do?

You just stand back
and pretend it doesn't exist

or keep your mouth shut
and hope nobody's listening?

I think not. You know?

I think that the answer is

to take on the claims of these groups
and the radical right in general directly.

Hello, I'm Jared Taylor
with American Renaissance.

The mainstream media are now
full of stories explaining the alt-right.

Even a Japanese newspaper interviewed me
the other day about the "alto-righto."

As a long-standing member
of the alt-right, this is how I see it.

We are a broad dissident movement
that includes many different websites,

organizations and viewpoints.

But they all agree on one thing,
equality is a dangerous myth.

[Mark] Jared Taylor has published
for a long time now

a journal called American Renaissance.

And this is fundamentally
a white nationalist journal,

but one which does not engage
in the use of slurs and so on.

This is my latest book, yes.
So, you're welcome to have a copy.

[Daryle]
Jared Taylor is considered now to be

the godfather of the alternative right.

East Asians are, on average, maybe
three or four IQ points above whites.

And these are just differences
we have to deal with.

And to pretend they're not there
is just like pretending that, uh,

I don't know, that males and females
are absolutely identical.

They're just not the same.

Jared Taylor and a number
of other white supremacists

set up this hierarchy,

where he said, "Well, Asians
are even smarter than we white people,

so we can't be racist
because we recognize, boy,

they're really good at math
compared to us.

But, of course, we are vastly smarter
and better people genetically

than black people,
than brown people," and so on.

The idea that you can identify,
you know, entire groups of people

based on their IQ is absurd.

First, how do you divide between
"black people and white people"?

Right?
I mean if you have one black ancestor

and 20,000 white ones,
does that make you black?

What about if it's the reverse?

[Jared] You can study these phenomena
and there are group differences.

But, as Adlai Stevenson liked to say,

"Given a choice between agreeable fantasy
and disagreeable fact,

Americans will go for the fantasy
every time."

[Mark] The idea that you could figure out

who was good racial stock
and who was not good racial stock

based on measurements of your skull.

The science was absolutely
not science at all.

It was ridiculous.
None of those things were true.

What's wrong with eugenics?

Which is basically the idea
that we can breed better human beings

by not allowing certain people
to procreate.

Well, Nazi Germany eugenics

ended with the murder
of tens of thousands of children

who were mentally ill
or mentally retarded

or had some physical handicap.

It is this idea that
there are better people and worse people

and that is determined by genes.

So, if only we can stop the people
with worse genes

and, of course, once upon a time,

that included black people, gay people,
brown people, yellow people, and so on,

then we will make a better world.

[male narrator]
War is not a pretty thing at best,

but no words can express
the world's disgust

at Germany's organized carnage.

Behind its high walls,

their victims, Poles, Greeks,
Russians, any non-Germans,

were systematically slaughtered.

[Mark] It's worth pointing out
that the eugenics movement

was in many ways born in the U.S.

The sad fact is
that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis

looked to the U.S.

when they were getting interested
in eugenics,

when they were getting interested
in race laws,

when they were getting interested in laws
against miscegenation,

so-called race mixing.

Ultimately, the U.S.
turned against this idea.

Eugenics and the ideas behind eugenics

have been absolutely
and utterly discredited

uh, by virtually all scientists,

absent an incredibly tiny fringe of people
on the extreme right.

Now that I am considered, oh...

a dangerous figure, I suppose,

it's difficult to persuade
mainstream publishers to publish my books.

I used to get the mainstream to do this.

White people, certainly white southerners,
are the only group in this country

who are not allowed to take pride
in who they are.

You can be black, Hispanic,
Asian, Indian, African, anything at all,

you can be proud of who you are.
Not white people.

[singing]

So, this is back when I was still
respectable writing about Japan.

[Mark] He's written a number of books,
speaks fluent Japanese,

is a world traveler,

plays an instrument in
a classical chamber orchestra and so on,

but he is also the guy
who, for the last 20 years,

arguably has done more than any other
to mainstream white nationalism.

[interviewer]
So, they consider you a hatemonger.

Hmm, yes, I'm a hater.
They can look into my soul.

They know what motivates me.

Don't even talk to him because we know.

And they say, "Because we know,
we have designated him a hate group."

And so every time the liberal media
talks to someone like me,

they say, "And, by the way,
this objective rating agency,

as if there's sort of a Standard & Poor
of the ideological spectrum,

they have put him on the hate list."

No, this is just absurd.

The goal is not simply being angry.

The goal is to change the minds
of our fellow whites

and create an environment
in which our culture will survive.

[Daryle] Back in January of last year,
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

And that hit me for a loop.

It was just a blow because I knew
that my life was about to change.

And life is at that point

where it's going to start
taking things away from you.

Well, I never really looked
at the directions

that I was going in personally,

I was only concerned with the profession,

I was only concerned with
going out there trying to help others

and trying to, um,
make everyone else's life better.

And then, I look back and said,

"Wait, what about mine? What about me?
What do I want?"

And I really only started
asking those questions last year,

when I got the diagnosis.

Last year, 2016,
was a nice a little yin and yang

because I had the cancer on one end,

but I was also working on
the television show on the other.

I was showing up on Rachel Maddow.

I was showing up on Joy Reid.

People on my side started to know me
as opposed to just folks on the right,

because I was notorious on the right
for a good 16 years at this point,

but no one on the left,
no one in the mainstream knew who I was.

When that cancer hit,
I said that has to change.

That has to change

because I'm not gonna just have my legacy
defined by neo-Nazis.

I think I focused a lot more on
the relationships of the people around me.

I'm closer to my family.

It's not like
we haven't been close before,

but I really wanted to, uh, make sure
that they understood.

See, one of the things that my family

was never really a part of was my work.

Two weeks from now,
dinner at stage house and shelter.

I will be there.

-Um, as it is, I hear--
-We need to call your friends.

I hear I'm going to go see Thor.

[Daryle] I was just basically
trying to protect them.

But now is the case of
"You got to know who I am.

You got to know
what I've been doing out there."

My only regret, and it's a big one, is
my father passed on before he understood.

He passed on in 2011.

He never knew really
what I was doing out there.

He was the strongest man in the world
as far as I was concerned.

He taught me how to fight.

He taught me how to teach, how to educate.

He did participate in the sit-ins

while he was a student at Benedict College
in South Carolina.

My father's from Newark, New Jersey.

And aggressive physical contact
from our brothers in Newark, New Jersey,

doesn't go over well.

If you're gonna fight somebody,
you're gonna fight.

He was doing sit-ins, and that
non-violent thing was only to a point.

And they're getting yelled at,
they are screamed at,

they are being called names.

One guy decided he was going to
squeeze mustard on everybody's head

and just went on down the line.

He got to my father,
and learned the hard way

just what it felt like to get thrown
through a plate-glass window behind him.

Father almost got expelled for that one.

But that's about as much activism
that I think my father's done.

I think that was
pretty significant though.

[interviewer] In what way did
your childhood influence your worldview?

[stuttering] We are a product
of--of our upbringing at some level.

That said, I don't think it
really affected me directly.

Um, my parents are not alt-right
in the sense...

Country Club Republican is a term
that probably fits them pretty well,

even though they're not members
of Country Club.

I think a lot of people want to believe

that anyone who thinks race is real
and race is something worth fighting for,

if you believe that,

you must have been inculcated,
indoctrinated when you're a kid and so on.

Probably nothing
could be further from the truth.

My childhood was,
I would say, pretty idyllic.

I mean, it was in the burbs.

If you just looked at my life
from that standpoint,

you'd say,
"Oh, what is Richard going to become?"

You would probably say
he was going to become a banker

or a lawyer, a doctor, an architect
or something like that.

I don't think you would have said,
you know, "Vanguard intellectual,

banned in multiple European countries,
denounced by Hillary Clinton."

I don't think you would say that.

[man]
We're just gonna sit there in the vehicle

and we're going to call Metro
and be, like,

"Hey, these fucking commies
are over here obstructing traffic.

And we're like not anywhere
near protesting or anything

and we're just in the vehicle
and we just want to go home,

come deal with these fucking degenerates."

That's that plan.

[interviewer] Why do we hate?

Well, because, uh...

We want things for ourselves
that other people seem to have.

[man talking indistinctly over bullhorn]

[Mark]
Or, you know, another big piece of it is,

"I feel guilty about a certain way
I am as a person

and I wind up
needing to blame someone else."

Right? To externalize that.

Eric Hoffer is an academic
who wrote a very important book.

The fundamental idea of Hoffer
is that true believer,

the person who becomes a fanatic,
whether on the right or the left,

uh, is the person who feels that
his or her own life is so meaningless

that it has no weight in the universe.

They're embarrassed about themselves,
they feel guilty

about how small and worthless
and meaningless their lives are,

and the only way
they can feel themselves bigger

or to have a place in the world is to
attach themselves sort of fanatically

uh, to a certain kind of extreme idea.

[crowd chanting] Antifascista!

A... Anti... Antifascista!

A... Anti... Antifascista!

A... Anti... Antifascista!

A... Anti... Antifascista!

[yelling]

My name is Milo Yiannopoulos

and I'm the gay technology editor
of Breitbart News.

I was due this evening
to speak at UC Berkeley

about cultural appropriation.

[man 1] Here we go.

Someone has moved in closer.

[man 2] Somebody's taking a selfie.

[Daryle] When Milo Yiannopoulos
was at Berkeley a few weeks ago,

Antifa blew the place up.

[Milo] It turns out
that the progressive left,

the social justice left,

the feminist, Black Lives Matter,
Antifa left, the hard left,

which has become so utterly antithetical
to free speech--

Fuck you! How fucking dare
you call me white supremacist?

[crowd cheering]

[Mark] Most of the activists
of the alternative right

are making a real effort
to kind of invade American campuses

and they've been very successful

at creating a situation where they pose,

they present themselves
as the defenders of free speech.

And it is the evil forces of left-wing,
"cultural Marxism,"

that are attacking them on campus
and other speaking venues

and not allowing them to speak.

[people protesting]

[crowd] We don't want no fascists here!

[Gavin]
When you shut down the conversation,

lies can thrive and make babies
and start entire communities.

-[people clamoring]
-[whistle blowing]

These kids wouldn't stop yelling,
"Whose campus? Our campus."

So I go, "Come up here, talk to me.
Let you say your side."

The closer I got to him,
the more he went, "Uh-uh."

And he'd go, "Whose campus--"

There's no substance to this beef,

it's just beef for beef's sake,
it's fashion.

I mean it's kind of a catch-22
because free speech and all.

The First Amendment is a great thing,
but, you know,

people are inciting genocide
and nationalistic xenophobic tendencies.

I mean, we are going down a rabbit hole.

It sounds a lot like
1930s Germany right now.

[Mark] First Amendment

is an incredibly strong protector
of speech in this country.

Literally, there's no country in the world

that has such strong speech protections
as this country.

So, the truth is that,
under the First Amendment,

uh, a neo-Nazi
could stand in Radio City Music Hall

and tell 20,000 people,
"We need to kill the Jews

and we need to kill them now."

That is considered, by the courts,
to be simply advocacy of a position.

I'm just sitting in a hotel room stunned

that hundreds of people
were throwing rocks

because they're so threatened by the idea

that a conservative speaker might be
persuasive and interesting and funny

and might, you know,
might take some people with him.

Um, they just have to
shut it down at all costs.

America, of all places, now

is a scene of political violence
in response to ideas.

It's very shocking.

[TV KWA] This is my Patreon account.

Like, I work full-time
and go to school at night,

so I don't really have a lot of time
to do this in the first place.

So I figured,
like, it would be interesting

to see if any of the fans
of the stuff that I do

were willing to, like, support that
through monetary donations.

I received some kind of e-mail notice
telling me that my page had been removed.

They said that there's no room on Patreon
for hate speech,

no matter the purpose or
apparent intention of the Patreon page.

This includes actions
that take place on other site.

[interviewer] What do you consider
to be a hate speech?

[TV KWA] I think hate speech
is entirely a social construct

to get sucked into that debate,
in the first place, is to lose it.

And I think that that term is weaponized
from its very moment of creation.

[Jared] I think there's no such thing
as hate speech.

How would you define hate speech?

If I got up and said,
"I hate Puerto Ricans"

or "I hate my neighbor,"
I mean, should that be illegal?

Why is it illegal to hate someone?

There is no limits to free speech.

This is something young people
have a lot of trouble understanding.

They go, "Free speech
doesn't include hate speech."

And you go, "What does it include then?

The Rolling Stones
are better than the Beatles?

What is free speech?"

There is no situation in America

where words come out of your mouth
and you belong in prison. None.

Hate speech is protected
under the First Amendment,

but that doesn't mean
it's protected by ethics.

It just simply means
that they don't go to jail for it.

But, if what you say does
cause some sort of harm,

people are going to have to respond.

Those who say it's just expression,

it's just speech,
it doesn't actually mean anything,

what we see frequently

is that these ideas become ingrain
within people's consciousness

and then they get translated
into real physical violence.

[Daryle] So, this is in
our possession right now.

It's the Keystone State,
"skinheads, from back in 2003."

But what made this video so significant

is that there's a band on this video
called Youngland.

The guy that's playing bass for Youngland,
his name is Wade Page.

Wade Page, about a decade or so later,

walked into a...

Sikh temple, just aside Green Bay,

I think it's in Oak Park, Wisconsin,

and, um, shot and killed
a number of parishioners at this temple.

It was the largest mass murder
at a place of worship

uh, in about 50 years on American soil.

[Mark] This came in the middle of a lot
of anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country,

coming both from officials
and anti-Muslim hate groups and so on.

And Page probably felt

that, somehow, this is something
that people would approve of

or at least some people would approve of.

[Simran] Sikhs are often seen as Muslims.

The way that I've been treated
and even just perceived in this country

has changed for the worse
over the last year.

OK, so, I'm looking at a website
called the Vanguard News Network.

It's one of the most popular ones

and its administrator, Alex Linder,
had written a reaction

that became very widely shared
among white supremacist

immediately after the Wisconsin shooting.

He says,
"Take your dead and go back to India

and dump their ashes in the Ganges, Sikhs.

You don't belong here in the country
my ancestors fought to found

and deeded to me and mine,
their posterity.

Even if you come here legally

and even if you haven't done
anything wrong personally,

go home, Sikhs.

Go home to India, where you belong.

This is not your country.
It belongs to white men."

Now, if you have a xenophobic,
misogynistic,

anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rhetoric,

then you will certainly see rises
in hate incidents

because people then feel emboldened,
right? If people are now saying--

If our leaders are saying that
these people are second-class citizens,

then Americans will start treating them
like second-class citizens.

A jury wasting little time
to convict Dylann Roof

for the massacre inside
a historic black church in South Carolina.

The self-radicalized white supremacist
stood trial in a federal court

for gunning down nine black parishioners.

Dylann Roof,
the author of the Charleston massacre,

is a classic example

of a guy who came into the movement,
was radicalized

and ultimately committed mass murder

based solely, 100%,
on what he read on the Internet.

Right before he started to kill people,
he said, you know,

"You people are raping our women
and taking over."

Well, you know,
that is the precise narrative

of the Council of Conservative Citizens
and the larger radical right.

So, you know, it's a remarkable case

because Roof really had no interaction
with anybody.

It was just information on the Internet.

And we're seeing more and more of that,

where people are radicalized simply by
what they're reading on the Internet.

[Richard] Some of the things
he claimed to care about

you know, Southern heritage
or something like that,

he was radically counterproductive.

I mean, the Dylann Roof incident

directly led to the removal of
the Confederate flag from public places,

from the Confederate flag
becoming much more taboo.

It's just a very sad case.
And I'm sure it won't be the last.

I mean, I'm sure there will be other cases

of someone like this who latches on
to an alt-right idea,

that might be true in itself,
but then he engages in an appalling act.

[interviewer] Are you concerned about

the idea of domestic terrorists
in the future

being linked to some of your writing,
some of your--

If something like that happens,

I'm just going to get out in front of it
and just be like, "Look, yeah.

This guy mentioned he read a blog of mine
or a blog of someone in the alt-right.

What does that mean?" You know.
I mean, there are people who--

[interviewer] What does it mean?

I think it means something in a sense

that the alt-right
is getting at that fissure, you know.

It's getting at those really taboo issues,
it's getting at that real--

at the most difficult aspects of society.

And so that might attract people
who are ill in some way.

So, it means that, but it doesn't mean
anything other than that.

I mean, it's just not...
It's not relevant.

I feel very strongly that we should not
ban sites and discourse like this.

Right? This is free speech,
there is no imminent threat.

So, it's protected.
I think that's important.

But what I think is also important
is that we need to be aware

of what people like Alex Linder and other
white supremacist leaders are saying

because that has a direct bearing
on how we can respond to them.

If we don't even know
what their arguments are,

how are we going to address them?

[interviewer]
At what point did you decide,

"I'm going to go after these hate groups,
document their activities?"

[Daryle] I'm from the punk scene.

This is really
where my passions really are,

music and everything around it,
especially the underground music scene.

This is Boston.

I'm Daryle Lamont Jenkins

and the show you're watching
is Channel X.

[Daryle] Back in 2000, I was doing
a series of public-access TV shows.

We're going to go on
with this first band.

This band I had on
the last Channel X show.

[playing punk music]

[Daryle] I was working on one
that never came to fruition.

I was calling it Damn the Conformist.

And I went out to
an American Renaissance Conference

and I had a crew with me
that went around to this conference.

This was on April 1, 2000, and it was
at the Sheraton in Reston, Virginia.

So, what are you doing here?
Do you hate black people?

[laughing] I hate black people,
all of them. They all suck.

[Daryle] Me and my people just went around

and videotaped everybody
that we saw there.

And I had to pretend I was the right
because I was the only black dude there.

No one really knew
what American Renaissance was at the time

and pretty much
scared the living daylights out of me

when I started realizing
who some of these folks were.

[interviewer in video]
Maybe you could explain

your interest in the American
Renaissance movement for us a little bit.

[man] Sure.

I became interested in right-wing politics
in the early '90s

because I could see
the way multiculturalism was going,

I could see the way immigration
and affirmative action were going.

You know, it just seemed
that none of the parties

were willing to talk about things
in which whites are adversely affected.

But every time a non-white
is adversely affected,

it becomes national news.

It was the first time
I had gotten a chance

to be just basically up-close and personal
with neo-Nazi.

Forced racial integration
leads to disharmony

and I think that's been consistent
all over the world.

[Daryle] And it basically
just got the ball rolling

to what eventually became
One People's Project.

How do you square this

with the fact that America
is essentially a nation of immigrants?

Well, first of all, that's not true.

There's no such thing
as a nation of immigrants.

We were an extension of England,
which is why we have English language,

British political and social institutions.

The media in this country controls
political opinion in this country.

And the majority of people who own
the media in this country are Jewish,

yeah, people like Michael Eisner.

[interviewer] So, would you say
there's a Zionist conspiracy

in American major media?

I hate the word "conspiracy"

because it starts sounding
like you're a crackpot.

We're talking about UFOs now, you know.

But is there a Jewish influence
in the media? I think anybody--

[interviewer]
An overpowering Jews influence.

Overpowering Jewish influence
in the media, yes.

And I think they use it shamelessly
for their own agenda.

Races will be happier,
more adjusted, and harmonious

when they're pretty much associated
with their own kind, OK?

[man] I'll give you an example.

Whenever David Duke
starts getting popular,

there is an endless stream
of Holocaust movies all week. Right?

Then there's an endless stream
of Klan movies.

And then they have the History Channel

showing the history of the Klan
over and over again

even though Mr. Duke was in the Klan
30 years ago.

No one in his group was ever involved
in any illegal activities.

He was a young man

looking to be able to find some way
to stand up for his European heritage.

At the time,
there was only one group, the Klan.

I'm heading down to Richmond, Virginia,

and there's been a call for a blackout

or a black boycott of a shopping center

because the county has dared
to recognize Confederate History Month.

And I say, if it's OK to represent
or recognize Black History Month,

why not represent and recognize

the heritage of Virginia
and the heritage of the South?

I think we're heading towards
a major catastrophe in this country.

[birds chirping]

[Daryle] So, normally, I fly down
or I take the bus.

This is pretty much my fourth time
coming down here for this.

Hopefully, it'll be the last.

I don't know if Taylor
wants to do this again in this town,

especially now,
there's some serious opposition

that we may be seeing
against this conference.

I mean, got a lot of media attention
this time around,

which it never did before.

It's called the American
Renaissance Conference,

and, according to
the Southern Poverty Law Center,

it's an extremist group
that promotes the studies and research

to show the inferiority of blacks
to whites.

So the heat's on American Renaissance
this time. The heat's on Jared Taylor.

[Jared] From 1994 until 2008,

we had conferences every other year
just in private hotels.

We really never had much of a problem.

In 2010,
the hotels that we contracted with,

and there were four, back to back.

Every one of them got so much pressure
they canceled on us.

And so, we weren't able
to have a conference.

And then, the next year,
we had the same thing happen again.

People threatening
to block their parking lot,

people coming on the premises
and leafleting their places saying,

"These people support Nazis,"
all kinds of baloney.

So, now we meet only
in government-owned facilities.

It's supposed to be the land of the free
and the home of the brave.

[Daryle]
This was a government-owned facility,

a publicly owned facility
that could not shut their doors to them

once the contracts are signed,

which means not only
can they not throw them out,

but they also can't throw anybody

in the general public out,
and that includes us.

The state of Tennessee
has a First Amendment obligation.

If the state of Tennessee
had told us we couldn't meet,

we'd sue them and they'd lose.

The fact is that Jared Taylor,
year after year after year,

while saying that he has nothing personal
against the Jews,

has made his conferences
a welcome home for Nazis.

[Lacy] As you can see,
we actually slept last night

in a church.

Thank goodness for this church
that put us up last night.

Some people slept in here,
in the sanctuary.

I saw it on Facebook
that they were protesting

and they were looking for accommodations
locally.

And I called our priest and said,
"Do you mind? That this would be--

You know, it's part of our mission,

from a standpoint of community and love
and acceptance and anti-hate,"

and so, we opened up the church.

[interviewer]
Have you done this in the past?

No. I think it's a reflection
of the political climate,

where I think
we all have to do what we can.

[Daryle] If you need other
antifascist voices

in general, I want to connect y'all,
so he can also speak.

Public doxxed antifascist,
you know, and anarchist.

Well, this is all self-made.

This is-- I basically got handed this and
then I got this thing strapped over here

just in case, you know.

I'm not trying to start anything
by any means,

but there've been many organizers
and many activists

who've been, uh, attacked.

[inaudible]

I saw this black African gentleman,

I assumed he was on the crew
and he refused to shake my hand.

And they surprised me that I was actually
going to be talking to this African.

Look at the average life
of an African-American in the U.S.

It's far better than any African
living in Africa.

So, slavery was good for them?

I-- How can you deny such an obvious fact?

-It's such a ridiculous notion.
-How is it ridiculous?

[Richard] We are just outside
of Nashville, Tennessee,

at the Montgomery Bell State Park.

I'm a guest to the conference this year,

although I will be saying a few words
just as an update on what I'm doing.

But, otherwise, I'm just here
to listen to some talks and mingle.

[Jared] This is the first time
we actually had to shut down registration

a month before the conference.

We have about 300 people here.

I think it would have been 400 or 450

if we had not bumped up against
the physical constraints of the room.

I've been curious to know

how many of you have come to your first
American Renaissance Conference.

Wow.

[applause]

[John] I got a hold of
Richard Spencer's phone number

and I put it on Facebook.

And, after that, I got a call from some
Nazi alt-right. There were several.

It was a conference call
and they called me

and they started putting me on different
alt-right message forums and boards.

-[Lacy] That's Hotel Avenue, I think.
-Yeah.

[Daryle] Yeah, this is it. where are we?

Oh, that's where we are.

-Hello, sir. NAACP?
-[Benny] Yeah.

I'm Daryle Lamont Jenkins.
I'm with One People's Project.

[Jared] In the last,
I would say two or three years,

there's been, in historical terms,

an absolute explosion
of white racial consciousness,

a rising determination of whites
to defend their own interests.

We have a chance, a fighting chance.

Testing, testing.

[over megaphone] Testing.

We will be protesting
in favor of equality.

[crowd] Yes!

In favor of diversity!

[crowd cheering]

...the view that all cultures
are equally valid,

all religions equally true,

and what is at the heart of this fallacy,

that all races are interchangeable
and equivalent.

The other tectonic plate moving
in the opposite direction, that's us,

we are growing in size.

And you know what happens
when tectonic plates meet?

Earthquakes.

We had a tremor,

I would call it
a reasonably significant tremor,

in the election of Donald Trump.

But that is just a sign
of things to come.

[applause]

And how did the other side react?

-Yeah!
-[applause]

-Yeah!
-[crowd] Yeah!

Yeah!

I want to hear a word from y'all!

-Now!
-[crowd] Now!

-Now!
-[crowd] Now!

-Now is the time!
-[crowd] Now is the time!

-Now is the time!
-[crowd] Now is the time!

Now is the time to take action!

[crowd] Now is the time to take action!

-Oh, no, no, no.
-[laughs]

I know that was a lot of words,
but I wanna hear that.

Now is the time...

[crowd] Now is the time...

...to take action!

[crowd] ...to take action!

[Daryle] Now is the time...

[crowd] Now is the time...

-[Daryle] ...for them...
-[crowd] ...for them...

-...to hear...
-...to hear...

-...from us!
-...from us!

-This is not their town!
-This is not their town!

-This is not their park!
-This is not their park!

-This is not their state!
-This is not their state!

-This is not their society!
-This is not their society!

-This is not their decision!
-This is not their decision!

Let me hear you all yell it out, y'all.

[crowd cheering]

No racist USA!

No Klan, no hate!

No racist USA!

No Klan, no hate!

No racist USA!

No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!

No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!

No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!

[Jared] We do expect the demonstrators
to be very close.

We have been more than urged
by the Tennessee state police here

who are protecting us, the park police,

very much discourage
any kind of interaction

with the demonstrators.

I know that we all have a curiosity
about these people.

One might want to just go up
and even just have a sniff.

-[laughs]
-But...

Please, control those impulses.

If there is any kind of fisticuffs

or even a loud argument,
you know that we will be blamed.

If we will be blamed, I will be blamed,
and I know where every one of you lives.

[audience laughing]

[crowd] KKK has got to go!

-[Lacy] Hey hey, ho ho.
-[crowd] KKK has got to go!

-Hey hey, ho ho.
-[crowd] KKK has got to go!

Yay, everybody,
you all can see the zoo animals.

[woman]
Hey hey, ho ho, KKK has got to go!

[man] Nobody cares about that
racist white supremacist shit.

Nobody gives a fuck.

I think, in a lot of ways,

one of the worst things
that happened to our country

is actually going to be
one of the best things

that has happened to our country.

Since that day in November,

I'd never felt like as if I needed
to just sit on my couch anymore. So, yeah.

-[Daryle] Yeah, I think there--
-Here we are.

[Daryle] I remember seeing
a sign just recently

say that, if Hillary had won,
we'd be in brunch right now.

-Yes.
-And it's like, no.

-That's the problem.
-See, that was my problem.

I was part of the problem.
I was part of the problem.

-It's absolutely true.
-You're not now.

No.

What does the end game look like
for a movement?

How do we get there
and what does it look like when we win?

I would be prepared to draw a line
right down the middle of the U.S.

and say to all non-whites,

"Hey, you pick which side you want.
Which side do you want?

We'll just fill in the rest."

If that's what it takes
to keep us from being ground steadily down

into the increasingly hated minority
that is our thing if we do nothing,

I believe that is the aspiration
that we should look for.

[applause]

[Richard] Jared and I
have different styles.

Jared has been more
on the side of race realism

based in scientific reasoning.

My view is that we're probably
going to accomplish a lot more

by thinking magically
and cut right to emotions.

You know, as the old
Chinese proverb goes,

"May you live in interesting times."

We are living in them.

We are living probably
in a breaking point. And I love it.

Um, I'm very happy to be alive

and I'm very happy to wake up every day
and do all this stuff.

So, on August 12th, in Charlottesville,
there's going to be a really amazing rally

that was organized by someone
who's here, Jason Kessler.

And almost all of the alt-right
is going to be there

and it is going to be hugely dramatic,
probably hugely traumatic for them,

the liberal people of Charlottesville.

Let's see where they go next.

-And wherever they go...
-[woman] Chase them there.

...we'll chase them there.

Yup. There we are.

-That's our mission in life.
-[woman] Well, thank you.

I lived in Charlottesville
for about five years.

I went to college there.
I remember the statues quite well.

It's going to be fun.
They will never forget it.

[Lacy] You can't run over people
who aren't white!

-That's not right!
-[honking]

You can't run us over!
No, that's not happening!

You're not running anyone over.

[man] Racists!

Have a nice drive, fucker!

Oh-oh, did something bad happen?

[police sirens]

-[man] Jim, let's go inside.
-I'm sorry.

We'd better go check
and see what happened.

[woman 1] There is only a few.

There, somebody is fighting.

[woman 2] He killed our friends!

[man yelling]

[woman 2] He killed our friends!
Come on! Come on!

[woman yelling]

[Daryle] John ended up
with just a few scrapes and bruises,

but apparently the guy that attacked him
was a little worse off.

I guess they ended up
having to airlift him

to a hospital in Nashville
to further attend to him.

[man 1] All they'll say right now
is that they are both under arrest.

But it wasn't his fault though, right?

-No. He defended himself.
-[man 2] He was defending himself.

[Jared] I have an unfortunate
announcement to make.

One of our members has disobeyed me,

and engaged with the ANTIFA
and has now gone to the hospital.

It is vitally important
that this sort of thing not happen.

The best thing we can do is ignore them.

What they most want,
is to get a rise out of us.

We're supposed to be
a relatively high IQ race.

[audience laughs]

We are supposed to be able to set rules
and follow them.

I'm very angry that this happened.

This will reflect on all of us,

on American Renaissance,
and all of you here.

And so... I implore you...
Do not imitate this knucklehead.

He got into a fisticuffs
with one of four or five of their guys,

ended up taking an involuntary swim.

And was lead off in handcuffs
and is now in the hospital.

Don't let this happen again.

[people cheering and applauding]

[Daryle]
I'm happy with how things turned out.

We had a remarkable turnout.

I want to keep the momentum going.

I want to make sure
that everybody is aware

of the kinds of things
that we got to fight out there,

and actually fight them.

[interviewer] Will you be returning
to that venue again?

Sure. Yeah. We have a contract.
We'll be there last weekend of April.

You've been coming to this--

[Daryle] A lot of people are scared.
They don't want to be helpless anymore.

They wanna come out
and don't want things to get worse.

[Richard] Hi, everyone, this is Richard.

I just got back and I just wanted to
give a quick report on the weekend.

The conference
was unequivocally a success.

Clearly something big is happening.

And it's not just people who are coming,
it is younger people.

Everyone's getting connected
and getting organized.

They're meeting people at Amber,

they're gonna see them again
in Charlottesville.

They're going to go to a college event.

It allows us to build upon events.

Take them down! Take them down!

[yelling indistinctly]

[Mark] Most of these were
open celebrations of white supremacy.

Just to give an example,
in a little town called Colfax, Louisiana,

there is in fact an obelisk put up in 1920

which commemorates as brave heroes,
the three white men who were killed

during a white massacre
of a 150 black unionists

after they surrendered.

I just think it's unbelievable

that any civilization
can put up a monument

to the three people who died
in the mass murder of a 150 people.

They're celebrated as great heroes
of the community.

There are people all over this country,
particularly in the South,

so-called neo-Confederates,
who will not accept

what it is
those monuments really stand for.

The claim is made repeatedly

that the Civil War
had nothing to do with slavery.

And let me say
that is patently 100% false.

[Richard] Monuments being torn down
is a symbol of white dispossession.

We talked about this issue
of the monuments

and being torn down
in New Orleans and so on.

[man] This is tyranny!

What's the reason for anything
that we've got in this country

if you can't stand behind it?

[people protesting]

[crowd cheering]

[Richard] It's an attack
on European history, on white history.

It's also symbolic
of a greater desire to erase us.

[interviewer] How far should we go
in terms of taking down these statues?

I mean, look, I think
when we have monuments

that expressly celebrate white supremacy,

I think that can come right down.

[crowd cheering]

[Richard] We said we should get on this
because this is great symbolism.

We said,
"Oh, let's do something Charlottesville,

they're moving to take down
the Lee and Jackson statues."

There might be hundreds,
thousands of people

descending on Charlottesville.

So, it's going to be crazy.

[protestors] Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!

You will not replace us!
You will not replace us!

[cameraman]
There is very little police presence.

There's a group of anti-demonstrators.

They are completely surrounded inside
the group of torchlight demonstrators.

[all protesting]

It looks like we got a fight.

There's definitely a fight inside.

[people clamoring]

[cameraman] Police have not stepped in.

Can I ask why you guys
aren't stepping in?

Sir, turn this off.

[cameraman] I'm just wondering
why you have not intervened yet.

[man] What's wrong with you?

Nothing is wrong with me!
Everything is wrong with you!

[inaudible]

[Richard] A year ago, we weren't
doing things like Charlottesville.

All of that activism
was not taking place a year ago

and it's taking place now.

Get in.

Get in.

[Richard] The alt-right
has developed clearly.

I mean, I'm very pleased with that.

[Daryle] As they grow, we grow.

Does not necessarily mean
people dressed in black

coming to break windows or whatever.

It also means community people,

folks going through their day to day

just simply saying,
"Hey, look, we don't want this.

We can't have this."

There's always going to be more of us.

[Richard] Is this us?
Is DFC-- I'm just curious those buses--

[man] Yes, those are us.

-[Richard] So, they are with us, right?
-[man] Yeah.

[Richard] I'm actually going
to get a little whiskey.

Yeah, I just want a touch
just to get loosened up.

Get back that all cocky
Spencer confidence right.

-[man 1] Hail victory.
-[Richard] Hail victory.

Thanks for coming, guys.

-[man 2] Hail victory.
-[Richard] Hail victory.

-[woman cheering]
-[Richard] Yeah.

-[applause]
-[Richard] Yeah.

Hail victory, guys. Hail victory.

Hey, Max. Good to see you, man.

Hail victory. Hey, Mike.

[honking]

[Richard] I don't know
what's going on with Trump.

I mean, I don't want to quite hate him.

Well, we got Jews running us,
so what do you expect?

[Richard] Right. Right.

[David] What do you expect with Jews
running our country?

[Richard] This might very well
go off totally peacefully,

this might become violent.

I mean, that is certainly
within the realm of possibilities.

Basically, my policy
is just absolutely never back down.

[man] I thought it was disgusting

that a bunch of American vets
with weapons

are out protecting a bunch of Nazis.

My granddaddy fought the Nazis
in World War II.

[Daryle] Yeah!

[man with Daryle] The Nazis were protected
by these patriot militias with weapons.

[yelling]

[cameraman]
Can I ask what group you guys are with?

[Richard] This is the one place
where we can win and win quickly.

It's remarkable.

The right loses culturally
and so on, but...

[man] Don't record me, nigger!

[Richard]
...in terms of the free speech issue

and the ability to publicly demonstrate,
we're winning.

[people yelling]

[cameraman]
There is literally no police around.

[people protesting]

[man yelling] Hey, hey, get off!

[indistinct bangers]

[bangers continue]

[yelling]

How can you love God
and hate other people?

You can't.

[honking]

[people clamoring]

[men shouting indistinctly]

[Daryle] They went to the wrong area.
They were supposed to go over there,

and it was there when everybody just
started raising hell at 'em and, uh...

and fisticuffs began.

One guy took a flag from Antifa.
I actually tried to take it back.

[yelling]

Yeah, another fucking cock-sucking Nazi.

[man] Fucking pussies!

[Daryle] And all hell broke loose again.

Apparently, he got dealt with

because, um, I got pictures of him
with a really bloody puffed up face.

[yelling]

Let's go, Nazis!

[man] Come on!

[cameraman]
Police are just doing nothing.

Police are still not stepping in
despite multiple fights breaking out.

[man] No one is going to get out of here.

[cameraman] Why haven't you guys
intervened in the fighting?

[man] There was fighting
all over the place

and officers just stood there
and did nothing.

Nothing. I got it on tape. Nothing.

[cameraman] Why didn't you guys
intervene in any of the fighting?

It's 2017 and I don't know why
they keep on letting this shit happen.

[cameraman] The streets
of Charlottesville, Virginia,

look like a battleground.

[people clamoring]

[woman] Call the police!

Where are the police?

[cameraman] There seems
very little government response

to this incredibly large riot.

Shoot!

Fire the first shot in the race war, baby!

Shoot!

Go ahead, motherfucker.
I'm telling you, I'll shoot you.

[indistinct shouting]

[woman] We are right!

[woman] They are wrong!

We are right!

[police sirens]

[woman] They are wrong!

[policeman on megaphone] By authority
of the Commonwealth of Virginia,

this event has been declared
an unlawful assembly.

If you do not leave the area immediately,
you will be arrested.

Do not interfere with law enforcement.

[police sirens]

[cameraman]
All right, police are pushing me out.

[helicopters whirring]

[yelling]

[gunshot]

[cameraman] That certainly
sounded like a gunshot.

[Daryle] Shots were being fired.

[Richard] I heard
what I thought then was a gunshot

and I was like,
"Wow, this is really going south.

We've got to get out."

[Richard] Sir, I will surrender--

[yelling]

Stop. Stop.

Sir, Stop.

[man] Why are you attacking us?

[police officer] These guys hate you
out there, man. You don't have to do this.

-[Richard] Sir.
-Get up. Get up.

[man] Stand on your feet.
Stand on your feet, guys.

-[shouts]
-[Richard] Stop.

[Richard] Stop. I'm not resisting.

-[indistinct bangers]
-[people clamoring]

[cameraman] It looks like teargas here.

[Daryle] My whole body was on fire

and I couldn't blink,
I couldn't rub my eyes.

I mean, it was bad.

It's the first time this has ever happened
because I usually stay out of the fight.

[cameraman] What happened this time?

Well, I was trying to help somebody

and, uh, somebody from TWB
took a shot at me with a pepper spray.

So, yeah, he got me.

[woman] You need to call someone?

No, I'm OK.
Those who I need to call are here.

Hit me with-- Any water?

-My ear is on fire.
-[woman] OK.

OK. I have some. Here.

-OK.
-Hit me, hit me, go ahead.

[woman] Go right into the ear.

[man with Daryle]
After two hours of streetfight,

finally the cops stepped in,
the cops stepped in,

but they waited till noon.

They let that stuff go for two hours
before they did anything about it.

This is the worst example
of police enforcement

I've ever seen in anything like this.

I photographed stuff
from back in Vietnam, protests.

I've never seen police just stand around
and let stuff like this go on for hours.

[policeman on megaphone]
Do not intervene with law enforcement.

[Jared] The Charlottesville police had
a legal obligation to provide protection.

Perhaps you've read the report
that's come out recently now.

But it's very clear
that the police were under orders

to let a certain amount of violence
happen.

[Richard]
Hey, everyone, I'm safe and sound.

We were standing our ground.

And the police who came out
in just full riot gear.

I mean, they were pushing us
and then kicking us in the shins

underneath the shields.

Uh, but I have to be honest,
I am absolutely outraged

at the conduct of the city
of Charlottesville and the police.

[cameraman]
Police aren't even in this area.

I'm seeing fights break out right now.

[people clamoring]

[man] Hey, somebody help!

[cameraman] You guys all right?

[men clamoring]

[man] Hey, stand down right now!

-Now!
-Hit him!

Get up!

[coughing]

-No! Hey! Get him!
-Hey, help him!

Somebody help him!

Hey, stand out right now!

Stop, get back! Go!

-Stand down!
-Now! Go!

I came here to speak my mind,
to talk about our movement's ideas,

and I was attacked.

We are gonna make Charlottesville
the center of the universe.

We are going to come back here often.

We're going-- Your head's going to spin

[stuttering] how many times
we're going to be back here.

[people clamoring]

You motherfuckers! You dance like this!

-Fuck you!
-You know--

Fuck you!

[car accelerating]

[people screaming]

[brakes screeching]

[woman] Holy shit!

[woman] Holy shit! Holy shit!

[cameraman] Go, go, go, go.

[people clamoring]

[man yelling] Why?

[cameraman] We got multiple injuries.
Possible fatalities.

I'm assuming a white nationalist
ran a huge crowd of people. I just saw it.

Where are the police and the ambulances?

I cannot believe what just happened.

I've never seen anything like that
in my life.

[TV hostess] Breaking news.
Terror in Charlottesville.

Victims thrown in the air, one woman dead,
others critically wounded.

[TV hostess 2] James Fields Junior
is facing a number of charges.

He's charged with
one count of second degree murder,

three counts of malicious wounding,
and one count of hit-and-run.

[interviewer]
Why not just condemn her killing?

I certainly condemn her killing

in the sense that
I certainly did not want it to happen

and I think it's a sad thing.

But I'm not going to play into their game

in the sense of denouncing the movement

or saying that hate killed her or--

[people clamoring]

We expected there will be
some loss of life in the age of Trump

at the hands of these
right-wing extremists,

and we just were not prepared
for that being the way.

I think that Charlottesville...

was an incredibly big deal.

It was something
that caused people to realize

that you can't ignore the Nazis.

We condemn in the strongest possible terms

this egregious display of hatred, bigotry
and violence

on many sides, on many sides.

What about the alt-left that came charging
at the, as you say, the alt-right?

Do they have any semblance of guilt?

[President Trump]
You had a group on one side that was bad

and you had a group on the other side
that was also very violent.

And nobody wants to say that,
but I'll say it right now.

We understand
that President Trump has reached out.

Have you talked to him directly yet?

I have not and now I will not.

I'm not talking to the President now,
I'm sorry.

[TV hostess] What did you--

After what he said about my child.

The statement I made on Saturday,
the first statement,

was a fine statement.

[Daryle]
I expected Trump to be an idiot about it

and he didn't disappoint.

What always is going to upset me
when it comes to Trump, however,

is just how helpless

the general public feels they are.

[crowd cheering]

[Richard]
The idea that I would ever back down

to such a little creep like Mayor Signer,

we are never backing down.

[crowd] Yeah!

[crowd cheering]

[McAuliffe]
We got to call it out for what it is.

It is hatred, it is bigotry

and our leaders
got to be very frank, unequivocal.

We will not tolerate that in our country.

[crowd cheering]

I think it'd be hard to find anyone

who would say
that this was some sort of great victory.

As a result of Charlottesville,

Confederate memorials
all around the country suddenly came down.

The idea was to defend one.

And it had absolutely reverse effect.

The consequences of that rally
and of Heather Heyer's death

was this widespread
so-called de-platforming

of anyone who is considered to support

any kind of white racial consciousness
or racial nationalism.

[people talking indistinctly]

[people talking indistinctly]

Yesterday--

Fuck you, asshole!

Fuck off, Jason! Shut the fuck up--

Indict for murder now!
Indict for murder now!

-[man] Get the fuck out of here!
-Indict for murder!

He invited these people!
Indict for murder now!

[people clamoring]

Come on, come on.

Let's go, let's go!

[man] Her name was Heather, jerk!

Her name was Heather, Jason!

Her blood is on your hands.

So, please, go home and never come back.

[cameraman] All right, we are live.
We are live. We're live.

OK, guys, let's do it.

-Let's go.
-Let's go.

Move.

[cameraman] We are peacefully here.

[Richard] Yes, we are not
breaking any law in fact.

[man 2] Well, but you're assholes.

[indistinct chattering over police radio]

[cameraman] We said we would be back.
We are back.

You can see we are peacefully walking.

[woman] What are you guys doing?

[cameraman] Peacefully walking.

You all can be witnesses.
Peacefully walking.

[man] Jesus Christ...

[indistinct chattering over police radio]

Formations are just filling right here.

This goes up to the front.
This goes up there.

-Fill in.
-Yes, up there.

You guys form up
with the statue at your back.

Form up with the statue at your back,
at your rear.

Face out. Face out.

[cameraman] We're by the statue,

it's covered up in black.
That's a sad sight.

Here.

You will not replace us!

You will not replace us!

You will not replace us!

You will not replace us!

You will not replace us!

You will not replace us!

[Matt Christman] These guys
who marched in Charlottesville,

these are the people who are aware

of the unspoken premise

of this sort of zombie neo-liberalism
we're living in,

which is that we're coming at a point

where there's going to be
ecological catastrophe

and it's going to either
require mass redistribution

of the ill-gotten gains
of the first world or genocide.

This is where the White House is.

We're going to get to 17th Street,
take a right, come back--

[Matt] And these are the first people
who have basically said,

"Well, if that's the choice,
I choose genocide."

...in my opinion, it could be taken
without the authorization of Congress,

uh, is building a wall.

-So, that's my speech basically.
-Yeah.

[Richard] I think that will be
five to ten minutes.

If I can try to get you to work on it,
then we have to be able to talk about it.

[Matt] And they're getting
everybody else ready,

intellectually and emotionally,

for why that's going to be OK
when it happens.

[interviewer] So, with statistics showing

white people soon becoming a minority
in this country,

do you ever feel
like you're just fighting a losing battle?

No. Demographics are creating this.

They are doing it for us.

It's not me convincing millions of people
through rational argumentation.

It's their lived experience
as a minority white

in a country that once was theirs.

[Jared] I don't make my decisions
on my chances of winning.

I make my decisions
according to what is right,

the duty I owe to my ancestors,
my obligations to my children.

And I think we will win.

[Matt] When putting all this money
into more fucking walls

and drones and bombs and guns
to keep them away

and so that we can watch them die,
with clear consciences,

it's going to be because
we've been loaded with the ideology

that these guys
are now starting to express publicly.

On the other side of them,
you have people who are saying,

in full fucking voice, "No."

[crowd] Immigrants are welcome here!

[Matt] We have the resources
to save everybody,

to give everybody
a fucking decent and worthwhile existence.

And that is the fucking real difference
between these two.

This is not right and you know it!

[Lacy] This is a really important fight.

In the long term, we have to win this one.

We have to win this one.

If they win, if the alt-right wins,
what we're looking at is

[sighs]

incredible suffering and people dying.

I'm calling on you, Donald Trump,
build that wall!

[man] Nazi scum!

You owe it to every single person
who voted for you!

[Daryle] I think that Spencer is basically
just going through the motions now.

Spencer did not want to be
the carnival barker.

Spencer did not want to be
just in the streets

basically parroting
what everyone has heard

from white-supremacists
over the past 50 years.

He could have been Senator Spencer
at this point.

Daryle Lamont Jenkins
was in Charlottesville, Virginia,

and he outed a lot of the KKK guys.

[applause]

[Daryle] I'm one of the few Antifa,

you may have heard that term before,
anti-fascists.

I'm one of the few
that you would see in public.

A lot of us do not like to be in public.

A lot of us can't.

And it's on their behalf
that I take this award.

It is on the behalf of those victims
of hatred and bigotry

that I accept this award.

Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum!

Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum!

Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum!

Fuck off, Nazi scum!

I go out there
and try to document every single thing

that is going on in the white power scene
or in the hate scene in general.

That's the way we are all going to learn
how to beat it back, how to keep it down,

how to diminish their ability to function.

And one thing that needs to be said

is that evil can only do
what we allow it to do.

We are stronger
than anything that is coming our way.

[crowd] No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA!

[Daryle] Truth of the matter
is we all got to step up.

We cannot ignore what's out there.
We got to fight back.

And the only way we can do that
is when we get up in their face

and tell them, "This far, but no farther."

Thank you very much.

[crowd cheering and applauding]

[Matt] Fascism arises
because of the collapse

of institutional legitimacy
of liberal institutions.

So, it's how we got fucking Trump,

it's how we're going to get
what's coming next after him

that's going to be even worse.

If you think there's not gonna be

more ecological and economic catastrophes
in the future...

[TV host] Strong worry
is that it's about to get worse.

[Matt] ...that liberalism is
wholly unsuited to fucking deal with

and that that failure
is not going to lead

to fascism filling that fucking hole,
you got another thing coming.

[men clamoring]

[interviewer] So, America right now

is more divided and polarized
than it has been in decades.

How's the country gonna come together?

I don't think
the country will come together

and I don't want it to.

Maybe we can't be a nation anymore.

Maybe race and culture
and ethnicity and religion,

maybe those are really real things.

And we're not gonna come together.

[interviewer] At this point, we're
the most divided as a country we've been--

-I disagree.
-No?

-You disagree?
-Yes. I disagree.

We're not divided. We're not divided
the way people may think we are.

We're frustrated,

we want questions answered,
but we're not divided.